Edgy Nazi Phase (I'm Über it)

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The reality:
>Nationalism existed before Hitler. The idea that the Hitler regime defines nationalism forever after WW2 is ludicrous and ultimately comes from leftist talking points
>Both sides in WW2 were just as White nationalist as each other
>Churchill campaigned to "Keep Britain White"
>De Gaulle is considered a nasty racist by the French left today
>The Americans and Brits who died fighting Hitler didn't think they were fighting an anti racist war
>The idea that White identity = National Socialism / fascism / Hitler is a cultural marxist idea
>Nazi Germany was the lesser of two evils when contrasted with the USSR, but that doesn't make it good

Hating Hitler is just as stupid as loving him.
>inb4 this thread is pro-jewish
No, it's not

>>136218050
I JUST THE WORD HISPANIC TO DIE OUT SO SPANIARDS AND CRIOLLOS DON'T GET BLAMED FOR MESTIZO CRIMES

THAT'S ALL I WANT

>>136218095
Honestly this is the price for creating Latin American mixed shithole land to the south of the USA. People will always associate Spaniards with mestizo Hispanics, sorry man.

It's not fair, but neither is life.

>>136218083
Churchill was a Jewish Zionist supremacist who believed in an Anglo-Jewish world order.

Hitler was merely a German nationalist who wanted all nations including his own to be free from German hegemony

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>>136218050
>Gas yourselves.
>write an edgy fuck Hitler thread
>condone the same activity holohoaxers say Hitler was responsible for
>youfailedfaggot.jpeg

>>136219434
These idiots think getting what they want is going to happen through political discourse they are just so far in the hole it isn't even funny.

>>136218971
>Churchill was a Jewish Zionist supremacist who believed in an Anglo-Jewish world order.
Churchill campaigned to keep Britain white. Maybe he was doing favors for the Zionists, but still

What is good propaganda? Ceding WW2 to the left is bad propaganda, it helps antiwhites.

>>136218971
>Hitler was merely a German nationalist who wanted all nations including his own to be free from German hegemony
this is patently false

>>136219434
>>write an edgy fuck Hitler thread
never said fuck Hitler, learn2read

>>136218050
There is no such thing as 'whites'.

We might be european, but only because our enemies are not.

Racial nationalism is only popular among those that have lost their identity and history - the eternal burger.

There is no white identity, never has been one and never will be one.

Italians can fuck off, southern europeans are scum.

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>>136218050
You said it dude. Civic nationalism all the way.

>>136218083
>>Both sides in WW2 were just as White nationalist as each other
this, everyone was white nationalist by then. It was so much so that they didn't even have to name it as there was no other choice.

The brits and burgers were as racist or more so as the nazis. It's a great misconception among many nazis that we were fighting those that hated whites or europeans.

>>136218050
Hey Jared

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>>136219980
>There is no such thing as 'whites'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3569545/The-founding-fathers-Europe-DNA-reveals-Europeans-related-group-lived-Belgium-35-000-years-ago.html

>>136219980
>We might be european, but only because our enemies are not.
our identity is partly formed by those who are against us, so what else is new?

>>136219980
>Racial nationalism is only popular among those that have lost their identity and history - the eternal burger.
Bullshit. Estonian nationalism is racial. Estonians are a racial subgroup of the broader European race. All nationalism is racial, American and Australian and Canadian White nationalism just covers more than 1 European ethnic group.

>>136219980
>There is no white identity, never has been one and never will be one.
patently false

>>136219980
>Italians can fuck off, southern europeans are scum.
no one is asking you to mix with Italians or give up Estonian identity, faggot

>>136220026
>this thread
>civic nationalist
pick 1

>>136220166
hey...... idiot with no argument

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>>136219886
>never said fuck Hitler, learn2read
>Hitler doesn't fucking matter
He mattered a lot more than you do, he was at least, inspiration and motivation to foment change. You motherfuckers get on here and are like "this was just a phase, allow me to elaborate, tralala". As if you really have anything to say.

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Hitler was right about the Jews and fascism is good, but adopting National Socialist imagery wholesale and clumsily adapting it to modern America isn't a good strategy. National Socialism was a movement for 20th century Germany and while we can learn from it, like we can from all fascist groups, it's not a movement for 21st century America.
>>136220110
They were fighting people who fought for the Jew, but that's where the parallels end.

>>136219980
The term "white" isn't something new it was used to describe people of European origin who immigrated to America. Which was mostly wasps then everyone else.

>>136220291
>>136220291
>He mattered a lot more than you do
no shit I'm an anonymous poster, not the fuhrer of Germany jesus fucking christ

>>136220291
>he was at least, inspiration and motivation to foment change.
no shit

I can still respect the accomplishments of Hitler. We can learn from them. This thread is about getting beyond the basic bitch "muh NS" bullshit. We need to practically make a movement to awaken white racial consciousness, and the Nazi stuff actually holds us back.

Stormsperging has only ever helped antiwhites. We don't even have to know Hitler existed to support our people.

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>>136218050
>When did you get out of your edgy "Praise Jesus our lord & savior" phase and become a non-retarded Christian advocate, /pol/?

>Christian identity is not Jesus. Jesus doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't matter if the resurrection happened or not. No, Jesus was not God incarnate. Jesus is also not the final evolved form of Christian identity.

>Save yourselves.

This is what you sound like, this thread makes no sense. Hitler did virtually nothing wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmtuCzKy83U

>>136220311
>Hitler was right about the Jews
he was mostly right, yea

How do we get normal people to realize Jews are a problem? The way isn't through proving Hitler was a good guy, that just makes normal people think "aw da poor jooz".

I also like fascism, but I won't publicly say that.

HIDE YOUR POWER LEVEL
NIGGA

>>136220485
>This is what you sound like, this thread makes no sense
your comparison is completely invalid and shows that you think Hitler is like the Jesus Christ of White identity, it's pretty retarded

>>136220485
>Hitler did virtually nothing wrong.
Irrelevant. My point is that making him and NS a constant focus of your ideology is a losing strategy. Whether or not he was good doesn't matter.

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>>136220311
Could I bother you to ask what that pic is? I'm very intredastered.

>>136218050
SURE IS /leftypol/ IN THIS THREAD.

FUCK OFF KIKES

1488

>>136220681
german american bund who were pro-hitler in America before WW2

>>136220903
no it's not you mindless nigger

>>136220681
German-American Bund. American Nazis before Rockwell was even a thing.
>>136220601
>I also like fascism, but I won't publicly say that.
Of course you don't say it outright, nigger. But it's getting to the point that you can basically be out as a fascist as long as you don't SAY "fascism." Say you're a Trumpist, or a nationalist, or something of that nature, and people will nod. Advocate fascist policies, and as long as you don't say "gas the kikes send the niggers back to Africa," you can mostly get them by.

Ditching veneration of Hitler? Sure. Ditching fascism or anti-Semitism or pro-white rhetoric? No way.

>>136218971
>Hitler was merely a German nationalist who wanted all nations including his own to be free from German hegemony
Utter nonsense, what are you on about? It's been long since i've heard such cuckery, why on earth would a german want to undermine other germans, unless he is not actually serving their interest? All actions in the war prove otherwise too.

>>136220026
What's up with the read comprehension of those that use the 'kekistani' flag? You seem to be completely missing OPs point.

>>136220240
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3569545/The-founding-fathers-Europe-DNA-reveals-Europeans-related-group-lived-Belgium-35-000-years-ago.html
I'm not speaking of genetics senpai. No one is going to argue against europeans being a very specific genetic group of people

>our identity is partly formed by those who are against us, so what else is new?
You're confusing brotherhood with identity. We never truly are just because we have the same enemy.

> patently false
Again, identity, not abstractions of biologists or hobbyists

> no one is asking you to mix with Italians or give up Estonian identity, faggot
Yet 'white identitarians' expect us to march under a foreign flag calling for something that is so alien to all europeans. You burgers will never understand what identity is. We are germans, swedes, brits, estonians, finns, etc. We are not whatever biologists have categorised us by using some random methodology that they like. It's a great misconception that because we share the same skin colour or genetic background we are the same. The vessel without the soul is just a vessel, it's dead. The same reason why a language needs dialects to survive - a civilisation needs nations

White nationalism is a dead case since the beginning. We either kickstart a new version of nationalism or watch the hollow whiteness die out

>>136220347
>The term "white" isn't something new it was used to describe people of European origin who immigrated to America.
Exactly :^)

>>136218050

Gay lefty Bavarian here.

I never grew into that phase, also Hitler was a low-test omega sissy cuck who ate a bullet when things got heated <3

>>136221126
>:^)

DELETE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>136218050
The masses have been brainwashed too hard, the 14 might have to live on without the 88.

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>>136221116
>Of course you don't say it outright, nigger
it's our job to do propaganda, even online. Our mission must be to get more white people to think like we do. Saying something slightly positive about fascism like "Wow Mussolini might have had a point really makes me think" is better propaganda than "VIVA IL DUCE" for instance.

>>136221116
>Ditching fascism or anti-Semitism or pro-white rhetoric? No way.
fascism had a lot of good to it, but again we need to avoid the label. People just hear "eeevil authoritarian" when you say 'fascist'. Learn 2 propaganda.

Smart antisemitism actually boosts antisemitism. Be a smart antisemite. Sounding like a mindless jewhating idiot works to get edgy internet kids on your side, but are you changing things really? Think about that.

And of course never give up pro-white rhetoric, that's the most important cornerstone of everything we're trying to do.

>>136221126
>You're confusing brotherhood with identity. We never truly are just because we have the same enemy.
obviously right now white brotherhood doesn't really exist, but it should. We need to build solidarity and unity against our common foes.

>>136221325
exactly

In a perfect world I'd like the general white public to think positively about Hitler. But I'm going to spend my time boosting pro-white rhetoric, not wasting it on trying to get people to re-think WW2.

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>>136218083
>Nationalism existed before Hitler.
Obviously. Hitler's Germany was simply one of the most glorious examples.

>Both sides in WW2 were just as White nationalist as each other
No they were not.

>Churchill campaigned to "Keep Britain White"
Churchill lied.

>De Gaulle is considered a nasty racist by the French left today
Ok.

>The Americans and Brits who died fighting Hitler didn't think they were fighting an anti racist war
Obviously.

>The idea that White identity = National Socialism / fascism / Hitler is a cultural marxist idea
Not entirely. There are other options for political processes of course, but systems like International capitalism (modern US) / International socialism (communism) are by definition incompatible with preserving White identity.

>Nazi Germany was the lesser of two evils when contrasted with the USSR, but that doesn't make it good
You seem to be taking it for granted that WE were the good guys, which is objectively untrue.

>Hating Hitler is just as stupid as loving him.
No, it's more stupid.

>>136221531
>Obviously. Hitler's Germany was simply one of the most glorious examples.
maybe, but what matters is getting white normal people to accept your ideology, and NS imagery gets in the way of that

>>136221531
>No they were not.
they pretty much were

>>136221531
>Churchill lied.
smart propaganda means sometimes lying, we should lie and say Churchill was /ourguy/. You are HELPING antiwhites by saying the wrong side lost in WW2. Say that the allies were white nationalist, it's good propaganda

>>136221531
>Not entirely. There are other options for political processes of course, but systems like International capitalism (modern US) / International socialism (communism) are by definition incompatible with preserving White identity.
America pre-WW2 had sactions and wasn't just globalist capitalist, it was pro-white and wasn't NS or "fascist".

The left loves that they can claim any white person who is pro-white is somehow a "Nazi", dude.

>>136221531
>u seem to be taking it for granted that WE were the good guys, which is objectively untrue.
I'm just saying nazi germany was the lesser of two evils in 1930s Europe. That's an argument that can actually catch on with people. Trying to prove Nazi Germany was good is much harder. My argument of it being the lesser of two evils is smart because it disarms the antiwhite narrative m8.

>>136221531
>No, it's more stupid.
Hitler is only talked about so much because the left uses him as a bogeyman of "le evil white racist dictator". We need to get the fuck over him and move on.

>>136221870
So are you gonna make sure to ask the pesky anti-whites if you can say your last words before they kill you?

>>136222048
I am honing my speech for winning over normal white people to the pro-white position. It's not about appeasing the enemy, it's about becoming maximally effective in winning over /ourpeople/.

How is that not clear?

>>136222048
white identity politics is becoming more and more attractive to normal white people by the day, we need to maximize winning them over, that's the entire point

>>136222207
>white identity politics is becoming more and more attractive to normal white people by the day, we need to maximize winning them over, that's the entire point
They literally don't care because they are too busy working 80 hour weeks. This is only going to happen when a small fraction breaks of and becomes militant causing them to not be able to work or live lavishly.

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>>136220601
Hitler is ABSOLUTELY a prime candidate for the "Jesus" of white identity. The New Testament? Mein Kampf. The Cross? The Swastika.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHWrC0Guzqs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ra-ChcOiuU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsCSAEdxXMc

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>>136218050
>>136218083

>>136222377
>Hitler is ABSOLUTELY a prime candidate for the "Jesus" of white identity. The New Testament? Mein Kampf. The Cross? The Swastika.
this is just sad

>>136222392
I'm a white nationalist who will probably actually do more good than you will for our race, desu senpai

>>136222335
not really, white identity politics is a natural thing, and it's increasing right now, it's only going to keep increasing

I don't mean we're going to totally take over the country, but we're going to be much, much bigger in years to come.

>>136222857
>not really, white identity politics is a natural thing, and it's increasing right now, it's only going to keep increasing
>I don't mean we're going to totally take over the country, but we're going to be much, much bigger in years to come.
Just as many people turn away in disgust as they come over. It will always be a fight where 50% of whites will kill you because it makes them feel icky being racist;/pro-white.

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>>136218095
they share blood with your people

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>>136222207
Ok, I understand what you're trying to say here and I even marginally agree, but you're making some incorrect assumptions that i'd like to address.

>honing your speech, maximally effective, etc
Obviously you should never open with "HITLER DID NUFFIN WRONG, GAS EM ALL NAO!" when trying to spread White consciousness. I am sorry to inform you however, that this strategy of "dropping the 88" will never actually succeed in the long term the way that you want it to.

The enemy has never played fair, and he's certainly not about to start. (((He))) owns the presses & controls all of the institutions. You can condemn Hitler with every other breath, but if you speak publicly for White identity.... you will be "a Nazi". Period. (There are countless examples, and even someone as muted and unaffiliated as Trump was given the label)

Secondly, while I agree with what your saying in the context of outreach and public presence, that is not what this board is for. This is the one place where we CAN speak the entire truth, and your post seemed to be attempting to alter "4chan" behavior (which I disagree with) rather than public behavior (which I completely agree with).

For example, I have NEVER spoken positively of Hitler IRL to anyone outside of my immediate family/fiance. Is this the sort of discretion that you are attempting to promote? If so, then it appears that we are on the same page here.

Attempting to "out-sneak" the Jews is no simple task, I would suggest taking note of George Rockwell's tactics, as he was the last person who publicly bore the swastika AND respect that I know of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAwWM55dTSE

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>>136224399
bumping with related material

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpf4DJcuPiE

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>>136224891
Additionally Hitler is not quite so universally despised as you may have been led to believe...

>vid extremely related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKMLAuat10

>>136218050
my hitler phase lasted maybe 2 weeks. short but intense

>>136226382
oy

>>136226232
that film is actually trying to make ordinary germans look racist, it's not accurate

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>>136228871
I know the movie is a propaganda attempt, I wasn't born yesterday. The salient point here is that there were a lot of real encounters like that...the actor was apparently taken aback at how many people came up to him like that.

White Nationalist anon, we see your American flag. Next time you found a country based on the principle of freedom for all mankind, be sure to specify European people only.

>>136229236
Not sure if this is bait or not.

>>136229236
read the constitution sometime?

>>136229732
Then they will just say "white" people don't exist which is essentially saying europeans don't exist since it was used to describe wasps then most other European immigrants later on.

>>136229324
>>136229732
Not bait.

>>136229914
No I'm no anti-white retard, but being not so specific is why we're at where we are.

>>136230021
Well every country in the world didn't keep their identity and also couldn't spot the Jews parading as white people. They sold their countries for iphones,cars and shitskin ethnic food.

>>136230192
Yes. Democracy does not work.

>>136230336
spoiler alert: it never will

>>136230336
>>136230397
Well Aristotle said when a constitutional government becomes perverted it becomes a democracy. I am not sure if all the terms line up to today's political definitions tho so it may not apply.

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>>136218050
I just want national socialism in america...kikes have got to fucking go.

>>136229199
they were all staged though to make the normal germans look "racist"

it was literally antigerman

sorry m8

I don't hate Hitler, either, but that's just the fact

>>136230694
>>136230694
we all want things

this thread is asking how are we going to get them?

open national socialism calling itself national socialism or using the term "kikes" won't change shit.

We need to hide our power levels and advance into white minds. The antiwhite PC left didn't start on day 1 with "fug YT deth2murka", they evolved to that.

We must be crafty to make change,

>>136230906
So you plan is to out jew the jew? You should know better by now. The only way to beat the jew is to pull him into the light.

>>136218050
>White identity
No such thing

>>136231505
>this retarded argument again
white nationalism means slovenia for the slovenians

>>136231432
it's not a himalaya climbing task to outjew the jew

jews did what they did through determination and unity, pushing a single agenda nonstop

The only way to win is to win over white minds. I am not saying that none of us should be extreme radicals, but we need people who open the doors to radicalism

If you talk positively about something radical but you do it in a normal and calm way, you open up more minds

THE GOAL = WINNING WHITE MINDS
whatever helps that, do that

>>136231687
>slovenia for the slovenians
What's retarded is keeping the "White" part. It's just nationalism.

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>>136230726
They were obviously not all staged, you can even see multiple people who refused to have their faces shown in the filming throughout.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/oct/06/hitler-look-whos-back-director-david-wnendt-interview

>>136231750
Slovenians should care about all Europeans

Slovenia wouldn't survive if every country surrounding them was a 99% arab muslim shithole, dude

We all need to unite together. White nationalism cares about all European nations. We need each other. If it's just one European nation surviving, the muslim shitskin hordes will gobble it up.

>>136231842
ok fair enough, still...

I don't hate Hitler at all. I also think though that if German is saved, it won't be some kind of reawakening of pro-Hitler sentiment.

Hell, maybe im wrong, but I don't think I am

>>136231687
>white nationalism means slovenia for the slovenians

No retard, that's Slovene nationalism, not some kike invention that is civic (white) nationalism.

WN is designed for American mongrels that have too many nationalities in their background and therefore can't identify themselves as a particular white, just like "black pride" is an umbrella term for American porch monkeys that don't know their real ancestry.

>>136231961
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>>136231750
>>136231687
>>136231687
>>136231505
>>136231432
>>136230906
>>136230694
>>136230514
>>136230397

Nazis Rekt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFAFwpmXiZc

>>136231842
Always archive it
https://archive.is/3n1oF

>>136232062
holy shit you're dumb

white nationalism is the inversion of civic nationalism

you're such a dumb cunt, white nationalism is for Australia, America and New Zealand and Canada - All European nationalisms are inherently white nationalist

>>136232258
>European nationalists are inherently white nationalist

No retard, we have thousands of years of culture to not identify with an umbrella term. No shit we're white, but we're more focused on Klaus not collectively fucking us over every 50 years rather than >muh white european identity lol 1488 kill shitskins
All the countries you've mentioned have only been inhabited by whites the past 400 years, that's why WN works there. These countries have NO identity other than skin colour. It only works in mongrel countries.

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>>136218050
>>136218083
Actually you're right, Hitler wasn't that great, you can have a perfect national socialist utopia without all the edgy authoritarian bullshit.

>>136232460
White nationalism means Netherlands for the Dutch, faggot, stop complaining.

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>>136231750
He's clearly a burger, it's different for us. We have to specify it as white nationalism due to our European-hybrid status. We are the great "melting pot", remember? Americans just identify as White, we don't separate ourselves into German-American or Italian-American or whatever.

>pic related
>check muh master-race genetics

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>>136232087
Ah, I knew I forgot something! Thanks for the lookout as usual Norbro, you're a trooper.

>>136232634
that's a very unusual mix

most of us are just anglo/german/irish and maybe italian/polish. We're fucking western europeans who would pass as natives in almost all of northwestern Europe for fuck's sake

The idea that White Americans are "mongrels" is fucking stupid. The royals of any country are a hybrid of European ethnic stocks. Are they "mongrels" too? Fucking retarded

>>136231961
Yeah, I doubt it will happen. In any case, I care about my country and I let others care about theirs.
This "white nationalism" concept has no meaning anywhere in Europe.

>>136232584
No retard, that's Dutch nationalism. It excludes Germans and Britons despite them being white. Kys ignoramus.

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>>136232460
fuck yaself, cunt.
don't talk shit about my big brother.

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>>136218083
>>136220110
WRONG

Sure they were both white nationalist, but only one side was aware of the jewish question. This puts one side at a distinct superior position idealogically, allies were fools. Instead of defeating the real enemy, they defeated themselves. You deny this? Look at present clownworld and shut the fuck up

>>136233004
Hello former colony, how does it feel to be absolutely irrelevant?

>>136232950
>It excludes Germans and Britons despite them being white
no fucking shit you moron

but britain and germany being turkish islamic caliphates would kind of fuck over the dutch too, you know. Dumb nigger

>>136232927
at the rate things are going, many European countries are becoming shitskin

It fucks over all Europeans for any European country to become a shitskin caliphate, retard.

That's why white nationalism matters. Europeans have to work together for their continent. You don't have the luxury of your biggest enemy being Slovaks anymore or Italians or whatever. Sorry.

All Europeans are being fucked over by nonwhite invasion now. Wake up.

>>136233161
>, but only one side was aware of the jewish question.
only partly true

Seriously look up Churchill quotes on kikes. The meme of the allies being just as pro-white is GOOD PROPAGANDA. Please, help our race and spread this meme, whether or not it's 100% true.

This topic is dumb divide and conquer shill shit. Nazis are cool. Swastikas are cool. White girls tend to react well when you reveal your power level. The ones who don't were already faggy lesbians who tell jokes about their vaginas.

>>136233251
You have no argument from the start, you're clueless as hell because you're a subhuman nigger that doesn't understand European history.

>>136233372
>. White girls tend to react well when you reveal your power level.
Yea what date went well with "You know honey Hitler was really great" ?

>>136233413
No you dumb cunt, I know what Dutch nationalism is, and I know it doesn't include Germans or British. God you dumb fuck.

If all of Europe is fucking shitskin'd that fucks over the Netherlands, too. That's why you need white nationalism. You're such a dumb cunt. The history of the Netherlands is deeply tied up with the history of the rest of Europe, anyway.

You fucking Europeans in Europe (I'm a European in America) aren't more knowledgeable about Europe than we are. There are plenty of dumb ignorant cunt Europeans in Europe, too.

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>>136232064
I don't give a fuck about richard spencer, seriously get over yourself with that shit.

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>>136233240
feels pretty great, how does it feel to be absolutely overrun with boatloads of immigrants? Can't go somewhere you don't know exsists.

>>136233863
it's so smart for Dutch nationalists to piss on Europeans who are pro-Netherlands for the Dutch, isn't it?

genius!

>>136233624
You don't need "white" nationalism if you never considered nonwhites to be Dutch to begin with.

Why are you even talking, you ran off to the bastion of degeneracy and zionism and have the nerve to talk shit, you're a fucking coward.

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>>136232812
Mhm, people who say that shit are usually trolling or just retarded. I'd take a "mixed" European girl over a "pure" Ethopian any day of the week.

Mongrels are products of race mixing, White Americans are hybrids. We are the true European Man.
>cute doggos somewhat related

>>136234107
good luck with your dutch nationalism when france, england and germany are all over 50% nonwhite, you dumb cunt

I'm sure that a Dutch Netherlands is going to survive in a shitskin'd Western Europe. Moron.

>>136234222
yea seriously.

Nigel Farage is part French and part German, but no one says he isn't a quintessential Englishman. The anti-American stuff is stupid as fuck. I hate the U.S. govt but White American rightwingers are good people.

Dutchfag is a total cuck

>>136234300
>be fake european
>lives in an even less white country
>complains about nonwhites in Europe

Who's the moron again?

>>136234817
>be dumb dutchman is browning continent
>"fuck u racial kinsman for caring about my heritage"
You're a fucking idiot. You are a shame to the Netherlands.

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>>136232927
There is no reason that we can't or shouldn't help each other whenever it is possible to do so. Have you learned nothing from the history of Europe?

We are all allies in this fight, don't get so hung up over the technicalities here. Nobody is asking you to stop being a Slovenian, but you should recognize that we are ALL white europeans. We may be very different, but we are far more alike than either of us are to an African.

The Greek city-states banded together to fight the Persian empire during the invasions 2,500 years ago. They didn't stop being Spartans, Athenians, or Thebians in the process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYMbyneRer4

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>>136218050

>>136235086
careful, the term "white" will probably trigger the eurocucks into getting asscancer because reasons.

Holy fuck why are some people so stupid?

>>136235264
nah dude I hate kikes

>>136218050
kill yourself, you commie puke. Stop spamming the board with these threads

>>136218050
I'm actually going through this phase right now, I'm becoming a traditionalist.
Gonna miss the memes.

>>136235086
You don't have to worry about us surviving any invasion, we fought off the nazis after all.

>>136235360
>muh cucks white nationalism kikes trigger

>>136235435
I'm a rightwing WN, not a commie, retard

>>136235567
You're so dumb, just stop. There is no reason why non-Slovenian Europeans wanting a Slovenia for the Slovenes and being pro-Slovene shouldn't be good in your mind. You're a moron.

>>136235548
The memes can be fun. Just don't take them autistically seriously. People who try to build their entire fucking ideology on old natsoc concepts are the problem.

>>136235548
The only reason you grow out of the phase if because you sense that it is unlikely to come to fruition at any point in the immediate future. But believe me, if the situation rapidly changed for some reason, all of those "traditionalists" would be the first in line screaming "GAS THOSE FUCKING KIKES"

>>136235892
if the opportunity for an actual natsoc revolution arrived, I'd join in a flash

But we need to be pragmatic in politics.

>>136234975
You lost your right to complain and care about Europe when you left it like the selfish coeard you are, diaspora cuck.

Just shut the fuck up already, you're worse than Milo. You can stop the LARPing too btw.

>>136235892
lol good point, I guess we must hide our power level to succeed.

>>136236009
>you left
no, my ancestors did for many reasons, including my German ancestors who wanted to escape Bolshevism in Russia, faggot

Still waiting for an actual reason why I'm bad. I support the fucking Netherlands for the Dutch, you dumb cunt. I don't want your country, I literally just support you.

You're an angry retard. Luckily not all Dutch as as shitty as you.

>>136236067
the "hide your power level" meme needs to return

Hiding your power level is just good political propaganda 101. No successful political movement has ever NOT hidden its power level.

>>136235851
I mean if people want to care about Slovene politics, fine. But everyone cares about his own situation first and that's how it has always been and always will be.

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>>136234817
>>136234107
>>136233413
What are you trying to achieve here? We are all on the same team and there is no reason to devolve into bickering about how we choose to define what we're trying to say here. It's a language/syntax issue.

>"White Nationalism"- automatically implies that all of us (whites) are on the same team.

"[Insert country name] Nationalism" does not carry this same implication.

What we really want, is for you individual Nationalists to acknowledge all of our shared brotherhood as white Europeans. The last thing we need to look forward to is another Brothers' War when the enemy is storming the gates.

Since "white brotherhood" isn't a popularized term, we usually just call this acknowledgement "white nationalism" as a placeholder, but i think we've been very clear about what we actually mean by this.

>To Britain
>To Europe

>>136236229
Have fun in your little Slovenian white island in a brown European ocean.

Yea, you're being stupid and you know it, don't you? Would you seriously not be bothered by Croatia or Italy becoming 50% black or arab?

How dumb are you exactly?

Anatolia becoming Turkish fucked over Greece, you ignorant nigger. What happens to neighboring states matters. Fucking hell.

>>136236327
He's one of these angry retards who hates America so much that he somehow imagines that attacking White American rightwingers will help him. The right in Europe has been finding a safe foe in America for a long time.

Instead of talking against the shitskin invaders, they can hurl insults at "le dumb capitalist rootless murkins" and feel like they're doing something good. They're pathetic.

Good this is that many Europeans in Europe are realizing that this is fuckingdumb.

>>136236130
>my ancestors

Lmfao, point proven. You're WN because you feel no attachment to your ancestry because you're an American.

You're a stupid edgy LARPer that gets off of swearing and autistically screeching at actual Europeans for not being aligned with your misinformation.

Why are you bad/wrong?
Because WN is a Jewish fucking invention made to keep gullible LARPing edgelords like yourself contained.
What have American WNs accomplished since the abolition of segregation? Absolutely nothing.
What have European nationalists done? Start revolutions against empires, oppose and fight occupation, write history.

There is the fucking difference you kike foot soldier.

>>136236327
The retard in question is being an ackchyually.jpeg

WN is a Jewish invention that puts actual nationalists and patriots in a bad light, as a result of post-WW2 Jewish indoctrination.

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>>136235567
>fought off the Nazis
Look how well that worked out for you! Shall we continue to fight more amongst ourselves while we all drown in 3rd world subhumanity? Or is it time that we fucking learn from our past and form a solid front against the nonwhite world?

Stop me if i'm making too much sense here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ra-ChcOiuU

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>>136236440
>Lmfao, point proven. You're WN because you feel no attachment to your ancestry because you're an American.
this is the dumbest statement ever. I'm white nationalist because I'm loyal to my ancestry. White American ancestry is mostly northwest European, you dumb cunt. Hating me is what the kikes want your dumbass to do.

>>136236440
>Because WN is a Jewish fucking invention made to keep gullible LARPing edgelords like yourself contained.
you are so creative, this is so fucking inventive, 10/10

>>136236440
>What have American WNs accomplished since the abolition of segregation? Absolutely nothing.
what have you Dutch nationalists done in the past 50 yrs? Oh yea just NOT stop mass immigration into the Netherlands by nonwhites. Great job nigger.

>>136236440
>What have European nationalists done? Start revolutions against empires, oppose and fight occupation, write history.
not in the past 50 yrs, idiot.

Yea I'm a kike footsoldier for supporting every European nation for its own people and opposing globalism. Are you just pretending to be stupid or something?

Damn the stupid here just hurts.

>>136236590
>WN is a Jewish invention that puts actual nationalists and patriots in a bad ligh
r-right

This fucking thread was made to discourage Hitler larping, nigger. God you're pathetic as shit.

>>136218050
I don't like Hitler because he's Hitler, only that he was trying to secure a future for the white race. Multiculturalism will die and I will fight to the death to prevent it.

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>>136236648
Some of these European "nationalists" are pathological. They will scream "FUG WHITE MURKINS" till their last dying breathe, until the last Slovenian baby is raped to death by a Nigerian they will be screaming "NO DON'T SUPPORT US WE ARE NOT RACIAL BROTHERS, MONGREL MURKINS"

Europe is so fucked that even the far-right, which is usually the least cucked people, is kind of fucked. It's just sad, isn't it?

>>136236735
This thread isn't here to bash Hitler, either. You can like Hitler, but realize that saying you like Hitler makes it harder to win over white people to our cause.

Priority is winning maximum # of whites over to sane racial views.

>>136236333
It's worrying what has been going on but you're taking it out of proportions. Italy will not become 50% African (as much as it would be karmic if it happened). In the end, it is up to citizens of every individual country to lead politics a certain way.

>>136236648
Yeah it worked pretty well since we survived as a nation instead of disappearing from history. Fuck off, Hitler worshipper.

>>136236941
in 50 yrs with the abysmal fucking birthrates in Italy and mass immigration, it's concerning. You should be worried about the fate of Italy and the rest of Europe, you dumb faggot. White nationalists like me just want a Slovenia for the Slovenes, a Europe for Europeans, etc. Come the fuck on.

You have no reason to bash us at all, you're just full of cuckshit.

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>>136218050
>It doesn't matter if the holocaust happened or not.
It matters if nothing else in that it's a tool to teach normies about the great globalist jew deception.

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFHa4db3hA0

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Ojbi6lXQI

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)
>https://youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160

>>136237094
all of this is potentially true, and I'm sure there's value to it

but how good is this as propaganda to win over normal white people? think about it

our task is to win the maximum # of white people to the pro-white camp

>>136218083
>>Nationalism existed before Hitler. The idea that the Hitler regime defines nationalism forever after WW2 is ludicrous and ultimately comes from leftist talking points
True

>Both sides in WW2 were just as White nationalist as each other
Wrong, the Allies were a Jewish supremacist coalition.

>Churchill campaigned to "Keep Britain White"
Maybe he had a crisis of consciousness later but he knew exactly who and what he was sacrificing Anglo lives for during WW2.

>De Gaulle is considered a nasty racist by the French left today

No duh, they hate all white people and are trying to rewrite, destroy, and demean our history. It doesn't matter if he was a good goy or not, he's white, therefore he must be shamed.

>The Americans and Brits who died fighting Hitler didn't think they were fighting an anti racist war

They weren't. They were fighting for a Jewish cabal that is racist against them. They were tricked into fighting an anti white, pro leftist war. If they could see their countries today they would have defected to Germany.

>The idea that White identity = National Socialism / fascism / Hitler is a cultural marxist idea

Ok

>Nazi Germany was the lesser of two evils when contrasted with the USSR, but that doesn't make it good

Nazi Germany wasn't evil.

>>136236714
WN Ameriniggers are like BLM to Africans. Your support means fuck all.

>what have you Dutch nationalists done? Nothing.

And who's fucking fault is it that nationalism became taboo in Europe? The Jewish bastion of America of course that collaborated with commie kikes to keep Europe underpowered.

Supporting European nationalism at this stage is giving someone an umbrella after a storm.
Do you know why Europeans get autistically mad when it comes to Americans? Because of people like you who think you've figured it all out and belittling others for not being identical. It's what you fucks always do when you come to Europe, you're obnoxious as shit, everything bad that has happened in Europe is as a result of US foreign policy, and you strut around like pidgeon on a fucking chessboard thinking you're always right.

Hang yourself, we can do without your "help". Worry about your beaner problem instead.

>>136237356
>the Allies were a Jewish supremacist coalition.
patently false

The allies were somewhat pro-jewish but we can be proud of the antisemitism on the allied side as sons and grandsons of the allies

Seriously. I kind of wish Hitler won, just saying.

>>136237356
>Maybe he had a crisis of consciousness later but he knew exactly who and what he was sacrificing Anglo lives for during WW2.
pointing out that Churchill did this cucks the antiwhite narrative. LEARN2PROPAGANDA M8

>>136237356
>They were fighting for a Jewish cabal that is racist against them.
this is only partially true, and it makes for really shitty propaganda

We need to propaganda better, the pure truth doesn't ultimately matter

>>136237356
>Nazi Germany wasn't evil.
regardless, convincing people that Nazi Germany was the lesser of two evils cucks the antiwhite "omg da naaazis r da devil and white nationalism is naaaazis" narrative.

Always cuck the enemy's narrative, using whatever rhetorical tricks you can muster.

>>136237363
>You are a divide and conquer shill or a bored
paranoid idiot detected

>>136237452
>WN Ameriniggers are like BLM to Africans
right, things that are different are just "the same" because reasons. Just give up, you're an embarrassment to the Netherlands.

I'm not the U.S. govt any more than you're the Dutch govt bringing Morrocans into the Netherlands you dumb cuckold.

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>>136236590
The CONCEPT of white nationalism is not a jewish "invention". They just kept using the TERM whenever they could describe the retarded skinhead-types that they love to show on TV. They co-opted it so that instead of the logical definition, you think of something totally unrelated when you hear it.
>White - people from Europe, Caucasians
>Nationalism - a sense of national consciousness, loyalty, patriotism

Therefore "white nationalism" should logically mean something along the lines of.... "a sense of consciousness, loyalty and patriotism for Europeans". Your brain has just been programmed to think of fat redneck skinheads waving crosses and the KKK instead.

I'm all for coming up with a new TERM that hasn't been poison-pilled, but you seem to be arguing against the CONCEPT behind the words, which is retarded. Our greatest weakness has always been our willingness to quarrel with one another, and we cannot let that happen again if any of us hope to make it out of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeIcQSnepig

>>136238034
exactly

THAT'S THE FUCKING ENTIRE POINT OF THIS THREAD, DITCH ALL THE NS HITLER BULLSHIT

Call it White advocacy

>>136218050
My natzee phase lasted about a month or so I think, I can't remember exactly. But I was never a HITLERDIDNOTHINGWRONG-tard though. He did lots, and If I was born in that time I'd probably would have opposed him too.
And also this "whiteness" thing has got to go. They did not give a shit about no whiteness, but just Germans instead. That is the only way it could have actually worked. There is no "white", we are all diffrent and should not mingle.

>>136218095
That's what you get for mixing with these savages rather than exterminating them

>>136218050
Its what ive been trying to spread, 14 but not 88.

>>136238472
>And also this "whiteness" thing has got to go
nah, wite just means Europeans

We Europeans have common enemies and we would be fools to not work together. No one is saying we should all mix up, but we need each other.

>>136238568
Finally an eastern european who isn't retardedly opposed to white nationalism.

Keep spreading it my friend. 14>88

>>136238289
Keep fighting the good fight brother

>>136219434
At the end of the day, the one fact you can't argue with is that Hitler was a loser and National Socialism is a failed ideology.
Regardless of your opinions on who was right and who was wrong, who gassed Jews, who was a Zionist puppet, you have to realize that Hitler failed, and failed in epic proportions.

>>136238705
we just need pragmatic propaganda to win over whites to our cause, period.

Saying you like Hitler discredits you to most white people. White people are more and more receptive to the message of white identity by the day. We can win them over. We have to.

>>136238660
>eastern european
Eeeehhh... not really. Who the fuck knows what we exactly are.

>>136238940
I'm part Balt. It's very important for all Europeans to come together in unity against our enemies. That doesn't mean you stop being Latvian, either, you feel me?

>>136218083
>Churchill campaigned to "Keep Britain White"

everyone was at the time, he would of not kept doing it if it interferred with his masters plans

>>136218095
You should kill more than you fuck, Pedro.

>>136218050
been feeling this way for awhile. now i just want to enact real nationalist policies that could help my people rather than be edgelorded into obscurity

>>136218050
>>136220430
>>136220311

These are all subjects I have concerned myself with lately and agree with. Shortly after becoming aware of the jq the natural gravitation towards Hitler idealism began. Fortunately for me it ended quickly. That was a different man for a different time and being associated with him or the old natsoc movement is absolutely toxic in any discussion or debate with polite company about White Nationalist interests. People are more likely to side with a white bashing, genderfluid,pansexual, demi-nigger when in the company of others than a natsoc, regardless of how ridiculous the oppositions position may be. That being said, I believe in some fascist ideals in government, but waving that around in people's faces is an immediate turn off. I have made great strides in converting people to my (our?) cause by simply leading them to my opinion when it had come up, gently but firmly justifying it when pressed, and letting the, come to their own conclusions.

>>136239866
very good post, thanks for sharing your thoughts, anon

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>>136236822
It does get depressing sometimes, but they'll learn in time just as we did. Remember, we've had ~50 extra years of forced multiculturalism as a nation to help us understand the bigger picture. They're still not fully grasping what is happening and infighting comes natural to them. I was born in Chicago....so I know exactly how fast things can change.

Reminds me of an encounter I had with two Euro immigrant acquaintances in my apartment complex last month.
>be walking dog around complex
>run into some neighbors doing the same
>two older ladies (50's), we're all "dog friends"
>first generation immigrants, been here for years
>one of them is Irish, the other is English

>be chatting about 4th of July stuff, somehow wander into political talk
>I randomly mention the UK, instant mood swing
>they literally just start snapping at each other
>"Muh IRA, Muh protestants are all going to hell, fuck that bitch Queen, albu gubrah"
> defuse long enough for Irish to go inside
>talking to English alone

>me- "Ah who really cares, you're both here now. The muslims pouring into the UK are the problem. Hopefully everyone back there starts burying the hatchet huh?"
>her- "the muslims aren't that big of a deal, muh freedom of religion, never forgive those IRA cunts"

>me- "....ah. well... I hope I can visit Europe before it's too late. Wanna see my heritage and all that. Hard to find meaning in just being American sometimes"
>her- "Why? America is a land where anybody can come and succeed no matter who they are anon!"

Dropped it right there. That walk blackpilled me on Europe's chances for about a week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdFzMLZAXEM

>>136218050
I've noted the the most pathetic and divisive posts come from people using the WN memeflag. I think you're true untermensch - even below the Jews.

>>136240843
The English woman was right on one thing though. The IRA are cunts, and should never be forgiven.

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Well, i'm just searching for a better term to use on 4chan & other anon-boards to avoid confusion, not for a new brand name for the public. We're running back into the problem i mentioned initially. Once you "go public" and make enough waves, the (((media))) controls your public image, not you.

Doesn't matter what you call yourself, or how much you disavow Hitler they will simply paint you as "Neo-Nazi KKK supremacist" once they deem you influential enough to focus on and the "wider movement" that you're concerned about not offending will crumble away.
>This is exactly what happened to the "Alt-Right".
>pic related

I agree with you about going easy on the HEILS regarding person-person discussions when trying to redpill people, but as a PR strategy it will always fail.

We WILL eventually have to all stand up and take the force of the slander, which is why my primary goal at this time is to use anonymity to redpill as many as possible.

If 1,000 of us stand up at once:
>they can bury us.
If 1,000,000 of us stand up at once:
>they'll never be able to stop us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVCfQ6Lyoo0

>>136238289
meant to link to you from here:>>136242778

>>136240843
grrreeat vid, I love thornhill whateverhisnameis

>>136240906
argument
this

pick 1

>>136218050
>Hitler doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't matter if the holocaust happened or not.

WRONG

Every time there is an argument about whether whites have a right to exist people respond with "muh holocaust" because they are programmed to do so. For them, it is an emotional argument.

Therefore, we must convince them on emotional level. It follows that in function of this cause, holocaust either didn't happen, or it is good that it happened. Convincing people of either of these two options will suffice because it is a prerequisite to bypassing their emotional blockade, which blocks them from acknowledging that whites have interests.

The Jews, if they are smart, will pick the former option because that just makes them liars. The latter is far worse. The truth is somewhere in the middle, but emotion knows no nuance.

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>>136238705
(you)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg

>>136218050
>implying Hitler isn't a continuing source of inspiration
>implying mein kampf isn't a modern art of war

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>>136244004
This is very true. I've found that it's best to gradually approach both of these conclusions from separate angles if you have the time. It saves you from having to do any backtracking later on, and also allows you to get closer to that middle truth.

>It barely* happened
Maybe 2 million died tops and many of these were unintentional & due to Allied bombing supply lines, Allies did warcrimes too, Most partisans were jews, etc.

>They deserved* it
Trying to throw a communist revolution in Germany after WW1, getting the US into the war for Palestine lands, Holodomor was right next door, etc.

It was objectively a lot more justifiable than our invasion of Iraq or our bombing of Serbia in the 90's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s