Prove me wrong

>>136216670
Define "rich" and who exactly would receive gibs

>>136216670
What are you gonna do when these unnamed rich people say "yeah nah piss off cunt" and leave taking their money with them?

Fuck you.

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>>136216670
inflation

retard

Same reason a garbage studio is Seattle is $2000 dollars now. Enjoy that $5 min wage increase Leftist hipster faggots, you're going to need it, lol.

>white men should do what I say
Bitch, you're on /pol/. There is no college security gaurd here to protect you from me.

>>136216670
It's a good idea, but Americans are too stupid and poor to afford it.

>>136216670
Look at celebrities and tell me what lots of free time does to them or any other trust fund baby type that doesn't need to worry about income. Most do not go get a job to self-improve. They get into trouble and do drugs to kill the boredom.

>>136216670
>spreading it equally amongst people who actually deserve it.

Oh so you want to give it back to the taxpayers? Sounds good to me.

Well it's simple really. The people who are for basic income want it because it means free money. The ones who are against it are the ones whose money is being stolen. Also you are a greedy fuck if you want money to be taken from others and given to you. Fuck off.

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Oh goodie, a UBI slide thread.

>The average IQ to contribute is now over 100
>We can no longer sustain a substantial population of non-whites and non-asians
>Human nature is inherently unequal, with a few creating most of the output, just like all systems in existence both biological and otherwise
>UBI is profoundly dysgenic and would at minimum require financial disincentive for procreation, which brings the government alarming levels of power
>Socialist policies push the mean downward and cause mass suffering under the delusion of empathy
>Most people are stupid and useless, and I do not like them
>I do not want to be tethered to the general population of people, nor would anyone else with an IQ above 115
>UBI is a violation of the NAP and its proponents will be met with force

>>136216870
>a garbage studio is Seattle is $2000 dollars now
*$900

>>136216670
With free gibs why should I get off my ass and work?

>>136216670
That picture does not accurately portray how brains work.

>>136216670
>There is NO PROBLEM with taking money from the most productive members of society and giving it to infinitely less productive people

Okay faggot

>>136217132
BULLSHIT!
$1700 for outside Seattle

>>136216670
>Make working meaningless in average person's eyes
What could go wrong?

>>136217000
>>136217000
Trips of truth

>>136217340
who pays that much money to live in Seattle

no one needs to give you any reasons, commie faggot. return to reddit.

>>136216670
I hated the idea until I graduated. I can't find a fucking job and now every day I pray for some sort of cataclysmic plague to wipe out a bunch of productive people and vacate their jobs for the next generation.

>>136216670
>spreading it equally amongst people who actually deserve it.

Explain how the lazy gibs "deserve it".

>>136217744
>he got a degree in basket weaving and is confused as to why he can't find a job

Also, to your and all your libnigger friends, lower your fucking job standards. Libniggers think they're entitled to some cushy 6 figure office job right off the bat. You actually need to work hard to get there first.

>>136217755
Tell me what the "rich goys" will do with all the money with zero poor people in the world lmao

>>136217956
>implying the basic income tax will apply to the Jews

No, the Jew's taxes won't go to that. It'll be the working class, the blue collar, the parents working 3 jobs to provide for their kids. These are the people who will be taxed to provide for lazy niggers gibs.

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>>136216670
>gibs
>ever
Fuck off sage the b8 thread
Posting redpill

Fucking commie

>>136218088
u realize the kids get moni for existing so they wouldnt have to work 3 jobs to support right?
do americans into math at all? Do you really think 40 cents from 3 mcdonalds paychecks will ever add up to any real amount?

>>136216670
Oh please, if I were paid merely to exist I would just sit on my ass all day, smoke weed and eat cookies

>>136216670
your pic is wrong. I work to live comfortably. If I could get that without working, I wouldn't have any reason to work

>>136216670
The figure on the left deserves wealth because why?

>>136218321

>Enjoyment

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>>136216670
>Give me one (1) reason that we shouldn't instate a universal basic income.
the new $0 will be whatever the basic income is.
So, everything will just become more expensive to account for every single adult having that money.

>>136216870
That sprite has more than 8 bits of color data you dumb faggot

>>136217644
Everyone.

>>136218659
Fuck your shitty computer world. Go program me an app that isn't boring as fuck!

>>136218510
Doesn't really involve the other 3 now does it?

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>>136216670

the totally retarded basic income 'discussion' again ....

pic related : the basic income ppl in a nutshell

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>>136216670
>Money taxed mostly from rich
>Redistributed throughout whole economy
>Most of economy feels this as an increase in money supply
>Prices rise accordingly
>Relative cost to average person of product unchanged
>UBI is worthless

Unless you price control the whole economy, UBI is inflation that makes money practically worthless by the time the check hits your doorstep. And a price controlled economy is basically a coupon system, and then you're in a Soviet hellhole.

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>>136216670
fixed it 5 you

>>136218902
>because I'm a terrible human that would be a lazy fuck everyone would be like me
and the truth comes out

WHO PAYS FOR BASIC INCOME IF THERE IS NO REASON TO MAKE MONEY ANYMORE?

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>>136218973
>WHO PAYS FOR BASIC INCOME IF THERE IS NO REASON TO MAKE MONEY ANYMORE?
the money will pay for itself for it too will have a basic income

>>136216670
>With no reward, the effort is even more worth it!
Look at prisons and state systems that give incentive for people to not be first time or repeat offenders, how well does that work? Crime is the path of least resistance for them, so they take it. No one is going to collect garbage or clean shithole restrooms because it makes them feel good inside.
>There is no problem with taking
The fact that you have to start by qualifying that there is no problem signifies that there is a problem. I'm going to take your car/bike/daughter because it's nicer than what my friends and I currently have, and you say there is no problem with that.
>spreading it equally amongst people who actually deserve it.
Who actually deserves it though if there is state sponsored universal income? No one would be impoverished, the only people with excess money would be those working for it. In which case you would argue that the individual must uplift the society. Who gets to distribute the wealth, how do we know they won't skim off o f it?
>>greedy white men need not reply
Oh this answers everything. You're just a entitled millennial shit who has never had to work for anything in his life because you have daddy's credit card. In your fantasy world, you wouldn't have existed. Tell me how, with your smart phone and designer hipsters clothes, that you are the underprivileged class that would have wealth distributed to him? You aren't, you would forfeit your assets to house inner city youth and hobos and vagrants, who would likely murder you later for being the original "social elite". Go read a history book for how communism actually occurs in reality.
.t- not real communism

>>136218973
t. brainlet

>>136216670
>poor people
>gibs

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>>136216670
UBI is nothing more than a trap to create an underclass that is completely and utterly dependent on the government. This government will then at some point then cull the leeches. The age of the gun ending, as is the age of mass democracy.

>>136216670
I don't understand this argument.
I'm going to presuppose for the sake of argument that in their idealist worldview, that no one will stop working because people enjoy plunging toilets so much.
if that is the case, what is wrong with the current economic society? wouldn't the difference of whether the money came from the government or your employer be, say, semantics?

>>136217133
robots do all the jobs, ez

>>136218921
To add to this, all properly functioning systems have an appropriate scale. That's why studies can test UBI at small scales in various towns, conclude it must work nationwide, and then have it all burn down around them when implemented.

All that UBI studies demonstrate is that it works at the scale of the population of the given town for the duration of the study.

>>136219112
What people don't realize is that the elites know this will happen, they know the plebs will drown themselves with entertainment. This is beneficial to them, as they want people to become slothful, lazy addicted the false sense of security UBI will provide.

>>136218641
bro, you're like, an economy wizard or somethint dude.

>>136218966
t. no job

>>136219348
t. brainlet

>>136219396
t. leaf, dog fucker

>>136219348
t. snide faggot who thinks using "t." makes themselves look like some sort of genius

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>>136219297
>economy wizard
mfw

>>136219025
OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH MYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

>>136216839
well they can't say that cause they're not aussie, faggot

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>>136219590
What if it's this lovely sheila?

>>136216670
This works as an argument against basic income. You have far more of a reason to motivation on the left.

I do think basic income will be necessary when every unskilled job has become obsolete through automation.

>>136219794
>reason to motivation
motivation to work*

>>136216670
>There is no problem with taking people's property

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>>136219846
iConcur

>>136216670
Basically a world where everyone can live like a a trust fund baby aimlessly wandering, getting high and drunk in an apartment with your roomates and occasionally protesting shit and planting trees. Society will collapse without class struggle

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Currently, the top 1% are asked to pay nearly 50% of their income.

INCOME.

Through equity swaps, tax havens, shell corporations, borrowing from investment bankers with collateral shares, and incorporation (which treats money as stock options and performs other preventative measures), most wealthy people abuse these and other loopholes to keep their income damn well near $0 annually, and therefore pay no income tax.

So when you see all of these ancap teenagers parading around the "absurd" taxes the wealthy have to pay... They only have to pay those if they're treated like the common person. They aren't, so they don't. Those tax rates wouldn't have to be so high if they didn't avoid taxes all together.

A universal basic income of $1000/month could be paid for by ten individuals in the top 1% for every single American citizen (around $295,000,000,000 annually) paying their actual fair share of taxes.

However, OP's image is fucking retarded. Taking care of living expenses such as overinflated rent and utility prices does not allow the layperson to afford luxury items like video games, clothing, phone/internet service, or even a basic car. Those are the the things people would earn money for.

Not to mention a house. While $1000 monthly would be enough to get you an apartment in most cities, it would not be enough to pay for travel expenses, health care, etc, etc... And this is for a single person. When children are factored in (to a limit of two children to prevent the idiotic system where immigrants can just churn out babies for gibs), this is exacerbated. Currently, children are the most expensive luxury item, which is why whites aren't having them as social programs greatly favor the immigrant.

A universal basic income to relieve the strain of the system is just a bandaid. The system itself needs to be reformed and wrestled out of the hands of the Jew as soon as possible, and forcing them to give their hoard to the masses is a great way to do so.

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>>136220113
>Basically a world where everyone can live like a a trust fund baby aimlessly wandering
how? I would charge you more for weed if I knew everyone had more money. I would charge more for video games (like Asstralia) if I knew nigger-faggots had the dough-ray-me.

>>136216670
>Give me one (1) reason
i'll shoot you in the civil war that would follow. Is that good enough?

UBI is a Jew scheme to get the goyim enslaved to the government. See how its working out for niggers?

>>136216670
People only deserve basic income if they're going to help their fellow humans cause.
THE WHITE MAN WANTS TO GO TO SPACE TIME TRAVEL DIG TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH EXPLORE THE OCEAN UNLOCK THE GENOME AND LEARN THE MEANING OF LIFE AND YOU FUCKING DEGENERATES ARE KEEPING US FROM THAT. FUCK OFF.
GTFO NORMIE

>>136216670
You are removing both the means and incentive to live independently. You degraded the population to the level of pets.

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UBI is a great thing. I can't wait in all honestly. It's about time the world began to adopt it, we can even roll out our specially crafted global currency just for the purpose. Everyone is so hungry for it.

Once we've got all of the bottom feeders hooked, we've won The Game. We will practically own the destiny of the Universe at that point, it will be sealed. Then we ratchet up the degeneracy, the race mixing, the sexual depravity, we will unleash the beast within the human soul. You think it's bad now? Just wait until middle of next decade.

After we're done sending the various nations into the abyss, those of you who managed to remain pure will be delivered to our cause, begging us to end it for any price. And end it we will. We can be reasonable. We will end your misery. Within a matter of a few weeks, we will wipe the slate clean. Everyone who had been on UBI, gone. Everyone with an IQ under 110, gone. Nothing is outside of our power. We will remake the world, and you will kneel before us and worship us as your Gods.

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>>136216670

The formula in OPs pic only works if you earn your basic income.

Here OP, I modified your image to better reflect facts.

>>136220572
UBI is pretty much The Final Pozzing, injecting the Jewish Mind Virus so deep into the white mans anus that we'll be swinging from trees and eating bananas and sticking our dicks in animals in no time. I literally cannot think of a better way to cuck an entire race, than get them perma-hooked on a healthy dose of government poverty.

JUST

>>136220235
A basic income would take into account inflation rates. Most people would literally do the bare minimum to survive if you can have a basic income that insures you wont be homeless. You might ass well sit around playing vidya-games and drinking everynight since you can do it freely. Competition would die out and we'd be eternal niggers for life and turn into greece

>>136220572
Don't use Momiji to shitpost, you cunt.

>>136220820
>A basic income would take into account inflation rates
lol. Perpetual Motion Machine of Money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78-BlZXm7wA

>>136220572

Is this the pop up that comes up when you get a Jewish victory in Civ 6?

>>136216670
An economy who punishes people who produce value and rewards people who don't produce value is doomed to become venezuela.

>>136221318
Kek. Day of the rake further postponed.

>>136217644
anybody who wants to live there you dumb stupid retard

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>>136221893
>Day of the rake further postponed.
;_;

>>136216670
>Give me one (1) reason that we shouldn't instate a universal basic income.

Because they will start handing it out to people that don't even LIVE here, man.

In case you haven't noticed, they are merely looking for ways to impoverish us.

>>136217296
>most productive
t. schlomo
fuck off. most greedy and anti-ethical you mean.

>>136216670
*hides your thread and sages the post*

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>>136221509
>stealing value
Marxists also say that "people will be free to produce what they want once free from their chains", but what are the stats of welfare recipients' activity? Are they actively trying to get out of their situations? Are they just doing odd jobs to get by? What is the racial divide in reactions?
Seems like a good case study on their theory.

>>136216670
>deserve it
How?

baited me/10

>>136216670
Why do you want people who would not have lived otherwise to live because of charity? Why do you want to destroy the genetics of your descendants by having them breed with low iq mongrels? Do you not value nature or survival of the fittest? We do not need everyone in the world to live.

>>136218167
Do you think I give a shit about some retard trying to raise a family on a Mcdonalds salary? Because I do not. He should've done better in high school/college/trade school. He should have worked harder. And if he was just too stupid to do that, then I do not want him or his retard kids to produce.
Also, its spelled "money" you fucking memekid.

>>136216670
>>136216670
>Give me one (1) reason
You don't have enough money but UBI fags can't into math.

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>>136217340
I am in a seattle studio and it is 1050. It's called google you fucking cucks.

>>1362176670
yes its filled with idiots but the city and surrounding area is beautiful so fuck off

>>136216670
What is inflation nigger

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>>136216670
this is breddy guud
if you have a half hour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0