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Iranian youth are converting back to their Zoroastrian routes in large numbers, does /pol/ consider this a positive, I think its good to see mighty Persians ditching their Arab religion that decimated a large part of there glorious culture and tradition and enslaved them.
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>>136210611
They are ditching Jew religions, ultimately. Where's your source though?
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>>136210611
you do know pagan middle eastern countries was baal and astarte worship?
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>>136210611
No they will burn in Hell, they should accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour
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>>136210611
The doctrine of the Abrahamic covenant was virtually extinct in Persia when, in that great century of moral renaissance, the sixth before Christ, Zoroaster appeared to revive the smouldering embers of the Salem gospel.
95:6.2.This founder of a new religion was a virile and adventurous youth, who, on his first pilgrimage to Ur in Mesopotamia, had learned of the traditions of the Caligastia and the Lucifer rebellion—along with many other traditions—all of which had made a strong appeal to his religious nature. Accordingly, as the result of a dream while in Ur, he settled upon a program of returning to his northern home to undertake the remodeling of the religion of his people. He had imbibed the Hebraic idea of a God of justice, the Mosaic concept of divinity. The idea of a supreme God was clear in his mind, and he set down all other gods as devils, consigned them to the ranks of the demons of which he had heard in Mesopotamia. He had learned of the story of the Seven Master Spirits as the tradition lingered in Ur, and, accordingly, he created a galaxy of seven supreme gods with Ahura-Mazda at its head. These subordinate gods he associated with the idealization of Right Law, Good Thought, Noble Government, Holy Character, Health, and Immortality.
95:6.3.And this new religion was one of action—work—not prayers and rituals. Its God was a being of supreme wisdom and the patron of civilization; it was a militant religious philosophy which dared to battle with evil, inaction, and backwardness.
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>>136210820
zoroastrianism is monotheistic
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>>136210766
I don't have a news source, I just have friends, and they tell me that there is a major revival amongst the youth and that Zoroastrian items are flying off the shelves, out of all his friends I'd say a good 60% are non religious or Zoroastrian
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>>136210611
Any decline in muslim population is good.
Not sure about Zoroastrians though, are they blowing themselves up for any reason, murder, rape or inbreed?
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>>136210611
I was under the impression that you can't convert, otherwise a religion based on fire, good thoughts, and justice, seems breddy good.
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>>136211358
I talked to a Muslim girl from Iran once, and she wanted to have webcam sex with me. I told her fornication is a sin and she's a whore. She fornicate with an Iranian guy before, it made me sick
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>>136210611
praise ahura mazda
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>>136211482
>any decline in Muslim population is good
Wow how blue pilled can you get? Muslim means you submit yourself to God, you want less Christians?
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>>136210611
Can we speed this up?
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>>136211482
You can't convert to Zoroastrianism so they will always be in a slow decline until they are extinct.
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>>136211482
This. Even if they converted to a different shit eating rape cult it couldn't be any worse than Islam.
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>>136210611
The unsandniggering has begun!
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>>136211538
yes you cant convert to Zoroastrianism, but people with Persian blood have Zoroastrian ancestors so they can def be welcomed back into the faith
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>>136210611
>Iranian youth are converting back to their Zoroastrian routes in large numbers, does /pol/ consider this a positive

Yes... As long as Israel isn't made more powerful for it.

>>136210872
>burning after life
Pff they invented your meme kike worshiper. Your Lord is a fucking gay Commie with shit values who wanted to destroy Rome.

>>136211102
Evil is a Christian lie that creates horrible people with an excuse to act horrible ("because I'm evvvil"). Zoroastrianism's enemy force of anger/ignorance who combated the Lord of Wisdom

>>136211621
>Wow how blue pilled can you get? Muslim means you submit yourself to God, you want less Christians?
Yes. And submitting to a slave cult is degenerate
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I'm doing the same actually. I'm Lebanese, and they just came out and confirmed we share 93% of our heritage with the Canaanites. Yes, the Canaanites that ((Yhwh)) ordered the jews to drive to extinction. Well, we're still here, and I'm not going to let jewry get in the way of the religion of my ancient ancestors. We achieved so much as pagan phoenicians, and we can once more.

> pic related, largest pagan temple on earth in Baalbek (city of Baal) in Lebanon
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>>136210820
Zoroastrianism is a monotheistic religion, not pagan
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>>136211621
All Semite religions are bad. The sooner we get rid of the lot, the better.
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>>136212274
Law is life itself and not the rules of its conduct. Evil is a transgression of law, not a violation of the rules of conduct pertaining to life, which is the law. Falsehood is not a matter of narration technique but something premeditated as a perversion of truth. The creation of new pictures out of old facts, the restatement of parental life in the lives of offspring—these are the artistic triumphs of truth. The shadow of a hair's turning, premeditated for an untrue purpose, the slightest twisting or perversion of that which is principle—these constitute falseness. But the fetish of factualized truth, fossilized truth, the iron band of so-called unchanging truth, holds one blindly in a closed circle of cold fact. One can be technically right as to fact and everlastingly wrong in the truth.
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>>136210611
>Zoroastrianism
Literally the bloody root of all this cancer along with Sumer scum.
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>>136212350
>>136212274
You're the reason why we suffer

Leviticus 26:15
And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant:

Leviticus 26:17
And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you.

Leviticus 26:21
And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins.

Leviticus 26:22
I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.

Leviticus 26:25
And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy.

Leviticus 26:38
And ye shall perish among the heathen, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up

Accept God into your life, trust me when I stopped being an atheist everything became better.
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>>136212393
When archaeologists dig up the clay-tablet records of the later-day Sumerian descendants of the Nodites, they discover lists of Sumerian kings running back for several thousand years; and as these records go further back, the reigns of the individual kings lengthen from around twenty-five or thirty years up to one hundred and fifty years and more. This lengthening of the reigns of these older kings signifies that some of the early Nodite rulers (immediate descendants of the Prince's staff) did live longer than their later-day successors and also indicates an effort to stretch the dynasties back to Dalamatia.
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>>136212521
mate, I would def look up what the youth culture is like in Tehran, 70% of the youth are unsatisfied with the Islamic revolutionary government.
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Pagan posters should take their autistic screeching to >>>/bant/
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>>136210611
Zoroastrianism is by far preferable. anything that's bad for islams power is good
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>>136211358
I'd love for this to be true, but if it were there would be a major crackdown by the Iranian government and we'd know about it that way. Also keep in mind some Iranians will get a faravahar pendant or whatever just as a sign of national identity, and not because they're religiously converting.
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>>136210611
Finally, even middle easterners are throwing out the Abrahamic curse, now if only europe would convert to their ancestors religions instead of sand nigger moon cults of peace.
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>>136212659
Yeah, I can see why, people are tired of Islam, they want the Theocrats out of power.

After decades if not centuries of this shit, people have started to wisen up to begin abandoning the Moon God.
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>>136212392
>Law is life itself and not the rules of its conduct. Evil is a transgression of law
Who's law? The Jew's law.

>truth truth truth
Coming from a cult member who worships a Jew as the represenation of all existence if kind of funny, or sad... Was that a copypaste because it reads lie one.

>>136212393
>Literally the bloody root of all this cancer along with Sumer scum.
What? It's not even Sumerian and is realted to the Vedic culture.

>>136212569
>Leviticus
Kike priests who stole from Zoroastrian stories telling me how to act like a kike is me making you suffer?

Kill yourself you pathetic weak worm of a man.
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>>136210611
they're going straight to hell along with the muslimes, jews, etc. JC OR GO HOME
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>>136212659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZWsDSI8Urw
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>>136210611
i thought that the zoroastrian community didnt accept converts, and they have to have zoroastrian parents to be true zoroastrians. anyway pol would hate it because it destroyed the indo european religion of the iranians.
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>>136212941
I like you, tell these slaves, cast off your foreign religious chains! If you want to futher nationalism then look at your people NATIVE belief systems, not bullshit.
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>>136212569
Superstitious babble from the Jew-books of the desert. Take that horseshit somewhere else.
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>>136210611
Iranians are based in my experience

This is definitely a good sign
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>>136210611
I think this is great
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>>136212989
Muslims, Jews, AND you all worship the same god in differant ways, killing each other over the differances.
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>>136210611
Based Aryans
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>>136210611
> Iranian youth are converting back to their Zoroastrian routes in large numbers,
Can you actually provide any data for that or are we just gonna discuss your fantasies?
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>>136210611
The Persians were a noble people, the rival of Greece for most of it's existence.

Still, o can't help but feel that this is the Iranian equivalent of Europeans larping as pagans
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>>136212350
The sooner thos Jewish cults of power in the abrahamic religions collapses the sooner the majority of the world are luberated.
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>>136210611
>No source
Fuck off reddit
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>>136210611
Are there some statistics or good articles about this?

Interesting if true.
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>>136213773
Zoroastroism is an actual religion paganism isnt.
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>>136210872
>No they will burn in Hell, they should accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour
Fuck Jesus the bible is Jew ass shit. Id rather watch those fuckers worship the gods they did before Islam then either Islam or Jesus.
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>>136213773
Better than the usual norm, will hang with a pre-Islamic Iranian than a fucking Muslim. Pagan religions, best religions.
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>>136210611
NICE. I'd like proof of this though.
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>>136214034
Hell yeah! Abrahamic lies need to GO!
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>>136212941
The Vedic cult was then in process of growth and metamorphosis under the direction of the Brahman caste of teacher-priests, who were gradually assuming control over the expanding ritual of worship. The amalgamation of the onetime thirty-three Aryan deities was well under way when the Salem missionaries penetrated the north of India.
The polytheism of these Aryans represented a degeneration of their earlier monotheism occasioned by their separation into tribal units, each tribe having its venerated god. This devolution of the original monotheism and trinitarianism of Andite Mesopotamia was in process of resynthesis in the early centuries of the second millennium before Christ. The many gods were organized into a pantheon under the triune leadership of Dyaus pitar, the lord of heaven; Indra, the tempestuous lord of the atmosphere; and Agni, the three-headed fire god, lord of the earth and the vestigial symbol of an earlier Trinity concept.
Definite henotheistic developments were paving the way for an evolved monotheism. Agni, the most ancient deity, was often exalted as the father-head of the entire pantheon. The deity-father principle, sometimes called Prajapati, sometimes termed Brahma, was submerged in the theologic battle which the Brahman priests later fought with the Salem teachers. The Brahman was conceived as the energy-divinity principle activating the entire Vedic pantheon.
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>>136213998
Yeah, but in Iran Zoroastrianism is about 10,000 people out in Yazd. Tehran youth deciding they're going to take up the faith of their ancestors when they've never even met a Zoroastrian is probably pretty LARPy.
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>>136210611
Persian will then become the New Master Race with their ARYAN religion.
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>>136210611
Is this the middle eastern variant of venerating Odin? Not that I mind.
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>>136213851
Yes, yes and yes. The "devil" was brought into being by the jew's ancestors, and later was granted other names "Christianity" and "Islam". Today we know the devil as Microsoft, Google, Goldman Sachs, Apple, The Federal Reserve and the United Kingdom and their enforcers the United Kingdom of America.
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>>136214281
LARPy or not if it starts to remove the influence of the Kebabs I am for it. If Zoroasterianism spreads across the ME, this can crush the hegemony of Pisslam once and for all.
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>>136214281
Better than Islam. ANYTHING is better.
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>>136214281
Most of the prominent Zoroastrian families moved to Tehran in the mid 20th century, they were pretty prominent as business owners and bankers during the Shah's time. Yazd and Kerman are mostly emptying out or just some old people in the villages.
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>>136213501
no idiot, the jews and muslims worship satan so do the mazda cucks. read the kjv or gtfo
>Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

>A sword is upon the liars; and they shall dote: a sword is upon her mighty men; and they shall be dismayed.

>For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect

the kjv is the last pill
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>>136210611
>paganism

No, even Islam is superior.
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>>136211482
From what I learned in my History 111 class, Zoroastrianism is tolerant of other faiths because they believe that the other gods are "lesser gods" but will ultimately fight on the side of Zoroaster in the great war against his enemy (I forget who or what that is at the moment).
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>>136210611
Very good. Muahamed is a false prophet, the should stop worshiping him.
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>>136214211
>Hell yeah! Abrahamic lies need to GO!
It is more of the fact that all of the major goddamn religions are connected to the Jew in some form.

Christianity is Jewish and Islam are Jewish and these Jewish religions all have billions of followers (it does not matter if the catholics kicked the Jews out the roots are still Jewish).
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>>136214550
Angra Mainyu/Ahriman which is the Destructive spirit.
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>>136214470
Islam came out of the Jewish faith - why not kill the source, my smug, hand-rubbing friend?
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>>136214611
Thank you.
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>>136214458
THIS, I just hope it actually catches on, less Muslimes the better, the less Abrahamic filth the better. Fuck all that bullshit, it has fueled petty conflict for centuries.
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>>136214523
Zoroastrians are monotheists.

Also NOTHING is worse than Islam.
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>>136213851
>>136214423
You people are such idiots. The New Testament trashes Judaism and its devilish ways... what the fuck you cucks on about.
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>>136211482
No, Zoroastrianism is great. They accept Jesus as one of three prophets. The Three Kings at Jesus' birth were Zoroastrian priests who sought him out to claim him as Savior and king of kings.

If true, this is really fantastic news for the West.
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>>136214697
The middle east has always been a hotbed of conflict though, even before Islam. Before monotheists it was a polytheistic society and I am sure they had their quarrels as well.
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>>136210611
this is great news. now provide the link
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>>136214520
>>136214639
See
>>136214579
I am a Southern Germanic Burger who worships the ancient gods NOT middle eastern abrahamic moon cult filth that actively abuses children and starts pointless false wars.
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Zoroastrianism is a pagan devil worship religion. Still better than pisslam
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>>136210611

>does /pol/ consider this a positive

I do.
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>>136214825
The OT testament is nothing but god wanting to kill Jews because they were the most wicked but there was always one "decent" jew that would defend them.
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>>136214825
This.

Also, the fact that Western civilization would not have reached the heights that it did without Christianity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwi9Q9apHGI
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>>136214034
>>136212274
>Christianity is a kike religion
It's an anti-kike religions, you stupid fucks
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>>136214977
>>136215109
>>136215116


I am a IranianFag btw. Jesus Christ is the Lord and killer of all false idols and Gods. There is no one stronger. Satan, Allah, Mazda, Baal, Baphomet will turn to dust. Repent all of you followers of the great serpent for the day of judgement will come.
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>>136215121
Christian, Muslime, and Jew bullshit ALL spawned from the same cess pool, Abraham retard.
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>>136210820
No wonder they are so evil now
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>>136210611
>Being trendily contrarian.
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>>136214825
>Taigs and Proddies have never done anything Devilish and will lead us to "heaven" if only we're good goy ... I mean, guys in this polluted fucking sewer the whole lot of you, including the Kikes, have turned this heaven into.
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>>136215284
Which religion is one of the main foundations of Western civilization?
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>>136212812
Nigger the government doesn't give a fuck about those meme pendants. They literally sell them in every jewelry store
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>>136212941
>>136213361
There's no arguing with christleaf my dudes, just ask him his opinion on getting his dick sucked.
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>>136211621
>thinking that the teachings of the koran are the same as the new testament

Wew lad
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>>136210611
Source?
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>>136215450
>varg
Revisionist filth. The corner stones of European civilization stand squarely on ancient pagan faith, the fact that they could only get Europe but merging much of their religions to seem similar is proof.
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>>136215450
This nigger doesn't realize that "It isn't only women who menstruate" is peak "Western Civilization". There are no people on Earth at any time in its history that have openly worshiped pederasty more fervently than the inheritors of "Western Civilization". In every city in the West today, homosexuals perform victory marches down the main thoroughfare as "straights" hysterically pledge their allegiance, even with their children. Thanks Christianity, great job.
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>>136211621
God you are such a fucking retard you know that?
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>>136210611

proof?
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>>136215986
Wouldn't you?
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>>136215494
Yeah, and they don't give a shit because people who buy them aren't actually leaving Islam.
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>>136215450
Hitler was as Christian as Trump is you stupid stormfaggot.
The nazi party explicitly wanted to abolish Christianity by replacing it with the white race aryan religion, with the state their church, the furher their pastor. They only needed to establish traditions.
They also killed fucktons of Catholics.
Anyways, have fun worshipping your gay ass kikestick or whatever, and thinking that racialism and fighting Jews is Christian in any way shape or form
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

>le famous zoroastrian meme

Fuck man, have you ever been to Iran? Do you have Iranian friends? Iranian youth is actually way much more religious than the older generations. This Zoroastrian meme was pushed by the Iranian diaspora butthurt bc of the 1979 Islamic revolution & Tehran attention-whores.

Zoroastrianism in Iran is just seen as some old paganism just as how European paganism is seen nowadays by Christians of Europe.

Best shitpost of the day.
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>>136210611
>I think its good to see mighty Persians ditching their Arab religion that decimated a large part of there glorious culture and tradition and enslaved them.

Also, this is wrong you jew. Imam Ali did a lot for Persia and was liked by Persians in general, the Arab invasion was violent but their conversion to Shi'ism wasn't.
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>>136211249
It's a dualism, like in manicheism or cathartic doctrines there is an enlightened God that cannot be understood without his dark nemesis
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>>136210611
This is extremely positive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_QnE9-iK80
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I hate to say it but OP is full of shit. The only way to become Zoroastrian is to be born into it. there aren't any conversion rites. Further, apostasy is punished by death. Even if they truly beieved in another religion and god, they would be FUCKING BRAINDEAD to not lie and pretend to be devout Twelver Shia.
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>>136212125
there is really no surviving religion outside of the parsi community. the zoroastrians who identify as such in Iran historically number less than 600,000 and some of them are in the USA. I know some, and honestly to them it is a fairly dead religion. If there is a revival, it hasn't been noticed and the Zoroastrians in their 50s and older in USA don't seem to be very active they're just secular basically.

There are no surviving traditions or temples as far as I know. They have that eternal flame, but people aren't really allowed to get serious about it in Iran.

>>136212569
are you a Paki Muslim LARPing as a White Christian?
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>>136217291
perhaps OP is trying to get people killed...?
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>>136217488
>zionist-kekistani OP is on the cell phone yelling at Moshe to "SHUT. IT. DOWN."
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>>136210611
globalist religions bad
ethnic religions good
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>>136217689
trust me, i hate islam too. but to admit to taking Zoroastrianism seriously and to build a community in Iran seems very dangerous. Outside of Iran is fine, but inside Iran, that shit would have to be like fight club. And honestly, many of the youth of Iran are kind of nihilist-hedonists, or at least that is what I hear most about. Either they are boring and conservative and Muslim, or Atheist and hedonist and flashy. I'm not saying everyone is at the extreme, but I only notice people in these categories, not between the two.
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>>136212274
Worship thyself (the world's better for it anyway. how many world-changing inventions came out of the church?)
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>>136210611
Zoroaster was better than Moohamed (shit be upon him), so I approve.
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>>136211621
I want less moon worshipping saracen. I want them dead, hung, lynched, nuked, shot I don't fucking care but the uncivilised inbred self serving pedoworshpping cunts need to be wiped out. No debates
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>>136210611
>routes
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>>136214851
>If true, this is really fantastic news for the West.
Hopefully they will take all this conversion seriously, I'm really sick and tired of these fucking muslims trying to tell everyone how to live, and whatnot
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>>136214470
bugs... easy on the carrots
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>>136210611
European youth are converting back to their Pagan routes in large numbers, does /pol/ consider this a positive, I think its good to see mighty Persians ditching their Jewish religion that decimated a large part of there glorious culture and tradition and enslaved them.

Kikestianity is dumb.
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>>136210611
anything that gets them away from islam
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>>136216429
Show your flag
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>>136218559
Kikestianity is next, it's ruined European culture by introducing more right wing extremities throughout European countries such as Poland.

Less kikestianity is a good thing. Praise kek, odin, and all other non-semitic deities!
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>>136218867
Quit making us look bad, flaggot
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>>136211358
>I just have friends, and they tell me that there is a major revival amongst the youth and that Zoroastrian items are flying off the shelves,

You are retarded.

Amerifat persian here. Every persian has zoroastrian items, they've always been popular.

Buying zoroastrian items != ditching islam. Shiism is a big part of our culture and many persians here who fled Shah's regime are still religious. Zoroastrianism is just a meme
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>>136218867
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>>136212274
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>>136218924
Is a Christian getting offended that their illogical and irrational fairy tale is losing control?

Aww

Poor thing
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>>136210872
Zoroastrians were the 3 Magi that predicted the rise of Christ millenia before his birth. He was a destined Saoshyant. The Bible is a watered down version of Zoroastrianism.
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>>136219088
No dumbass, I meant quit making us pagans look bad with your faggotry
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>>136218228
I knew someone would have pointed this out, my bad, typo
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>>136214851
>If true, this is really fantastic news for the West.
Not entirely, but it is true.
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>>136219159
It is not my fault that you are sympathetic to kikestianity.
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>>136211621
Yes. 99% of the reasons I hate muslims also apply to christians.
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>>136219018
Shiite Islam is Zoroastrian at its core, just a more occult preservation (see Zurvanism). It will be the end of contemporary Islam if it's true.
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>>136219291
However, not the end of Islam itself. More a refinement of both religions (along with Christianity) if the links are established (which has been predicted to happen before the second coming of Christ). It will be the link between the Abrahamic faiths and the Dharmic ones.
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>>136219226
Good!

Do not be like these idiots
>>136219159
>>136219043
Christianity has ruined Europe and was never a significant contributor to their culture, it simply hijacked everything.

It is good to see that more people are leaving semitic religion it is a shame that people still believe in it when it is the 21st century.

You would think that people would get passed fairy tales.

Anyways, I am okay with some mythologies like paganism because they were responsible for European culture, and their myths and fables are awesome!
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>>136219291
Doesn't matter.

What I'm saying is that the core beliefs of any persian are based on Shia Islam. Muhammad is literally a Messiah, and his family is a HUGE deal.

Compare that to Zoroastrianism, and not a single one of those "young people" who buys Zoroastrian items actually knows what Zoroastrianism is. Zoroastrianism is super complicated and afaik they despise converts, so it's essentially a meme pure and simple.

It's basically like saying that christians who read Thor comics are converting to nordic paganism.
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>>136219449
Zoroastrianism isn't in conflict with Christianity or Islam. In fact, it compliments and enriches both religions. Religion is just a facade to help idiots see the intangible truths.
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>>136219637
And what I'm saying is that the beliefs of Shia Islam are based on Zoroastrianism.

I agree the "young people" who are "converting" are idiots, but if they actually look into Zoroastrianism they'll see it compliments Shia Islam just like it compliments Orthodox Christianity and certain Jewish sects. What I'm trying to say is that these "converts" could end up helping Shia Islam reach its full potential.
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>>136219449
you're wrong, on so many levels.
your we wuz pagans is a we wuz kangz tier argument.
the Byzantine, and Gothic Empires disagree with you, there's also the majority of Russia. and Again America.
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>>136219688
Christianity is still bad idiot.

Any form of organized religion is bad. I am okay with mythologies.

I am also pagan but an atheist, I am intelligent and rational and comprehend that at the end of the day, none of this actually matters.

Religion is for the weak minded. So we need to get rid of weakness.

Some people throughout history have said religion is like a drug that creates barriers to getting rid of the multiple classes that exist.

Christianity has created an autocratic class in the west, where the working class is exploited for the benefit of a few wealthy Christians.
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>>136220378
Paganism is older than kikestianity.

Is everyone on politically incorrect that dumb?
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>>136210611
Wonderful! Zoroastrian has a direct link to Jesus Christ.

In Marco Polo's book, "The Travels of Marco Polo," he wrote about the Three Kings who visited the child Jesus Christ in the manger after his birth (very condensed):

...Then they worshiped him and offered him the gold, the frankincense, and the myrrh. The child took all three offerings and then gave them a closed casket. And the three kings set out to return to their own country.

...They resolved to see what the child had given them. They opened the casket and found inside it a stone. They wondered greatly what this could be. The child had given it to them to signify that they should be firm as stone in the faith that they had adopted. For, when the three kings saw that the child had taken all three offerings, they concluded that he was at once a god, and an earthly king, and a healer. And, since the child knew that the three kings believed this, he gave them the stone to signify that they should be firm and constant in their belief.

The three kings, not knowing why the stone had been given to them, took it and threw it into a well. No sooner had it fallen in than there descended from heaven a burning fire, which came straight to the well into which it had been thrown. When the three kings saw this miracle, they were taken aback and repented of their throwing away the stone; for they saw clearly that its significance was great and good. They immediately took some of this fire and carried it to their country and put it in one of their churches, a very fine and splendid building.

They keep it perpetually burning and worship it as a god. That is how it comes about that the people of this country are fire worshippers. And I assure you that they are very numerous. All this was related to Messer Marco Polo by the inhabitants of this town; and it is all perfectly true. ...the three Magi came from Saveh, one from Hawah, and the third from Kashan.

http://www.farsinet.com/wisemen/magi.html
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>>136220465
whats it like being so uncultured and facile?

please fuck off back to plebbit and /r/atheism.
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>>136220563
What is wrong wi having discussions with science based people?

Literally all religion is cancer. Fucktard.

I am not wasting my time with you fucking idiot.
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>>136220153
Let me add to this.

Zoroastrianism gave birth to contemporary Judaism, as before Cyrus freed the Jews from slavery under Babylon and gave them Israel, they were a polytheistic group. Concepts about the messiah, end times, etc etc were all taken from exchanges with the Zoroastrians.

Unfortunately, there has been corruption not only within Judaism, but within Christianity, Islam, and Zoroastrianism itself. You can find satanism in various sects from all of these religions. Fact of the matter is the sooner people free themselves from looking at these religions in a literal sense, and see the esoteric connections between all of them, they can find out who the evils are and see the truth. Zoroastrianism is an important key in this because it links the Abrahamic religions with the Dharmic ones, was the basis of Judaism, and holds deep occult knowledge within it that has been watered down into Christianity and Islam.
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>>136220793
Go back to your basement reddit
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In before you call me a butthurt muslim-arab have nothing against Persians, and I like Zoroastriainism better than many of the semitic religions, its pandaimonic relationship with hinduism interest me the most but I also read Gathas and Persian, spesifically Sassanian culture is interesting to me, But I have to disagree with some claims here.

>>136216495
>conversion to Shi'ism wasn't.
A lie, hundreds of sunnis were executed by Shah Ismail for refusing to convert to shia. Iran was the bastion of Sunni Islam but as with many cases, when you persecute a people long enough and create another identity, they shrug about the pass deeds.
Conversion was a very bloody process but at the end managed to create a distinct shia identity while being surrounded by sunni gunpowder empires.
Shah Ismail was a brutal man.
>>136220849
Gave birth? No, Judaism was influenced by plenty of religions, Zoroastrianism included surely but mesopotamian and egyptian influence must not also be excluded. Tales of Sargon of Akkad and Utanapistim can be fonud in Moses and Noah for one.
>>136214550
>Muh Zoroastrianism dindu nuffin
False, by the time of Sassanids it was another organized religion intolerant of others, See inscription of Kartir and how he boasts about destruction of Chruches and Pagan temples for Hormazd and Shah or whatever. All organized religion, when powerfull is the same. Zoroastrianism persecuted folk just as christians, and the christians persia supproted were those who created trouble for Chalcadonian Imperial Christianity, you can bet your ass Shah loved nestorians.
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>>136220849
>Zoroastrianism is an important key in this because it links the Abrahamic religions with the Dharmic ones, was the basis of Judaism, and holds deep occult knowledge within it that has been watered down into Christianity and Islam.
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>>136220793

Don't listen to those retards. You are beautiful. Please have this imaginary upvote

#WeAreTheResistance
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>>136216495
They converted to Shiism through Ismail Savavid. He purged the shit out of Sunnis. Not that I mind, fuck Sunnis, they are cancer.
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>>136220849
>Zoroastrianism gave birth to contemporary Judaism, as before Cyrus freed the Jews from slavery under Babylon and gave them Israel, they were a polytheistic group.

this is the most historically wrong thing I'll ever read in my entire life considering Jesus Christ is in Genesis 1:1, and Nebuchadnezzar wrote Daniel 4, and Isaiah 44-45 metions Cyrus by name 150 years before he was born and highlights his career in advance.
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>>136210611
>does /pol/ consider this a positive,

They should convert to Christianity.
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Zoroastrians believe incest is holy.
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>>136222603
Stop playing so much Crusader Kings
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>>136222664
no u
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>>136222222
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>>136222603
Don't you have a Queen and some banks to worship today, goy.
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>>136222603
so no different than Islam then?
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>>136221954
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2007/4/11/321915/-
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>>136222603
LEL.
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>>136210611
Anything that is against foreign semitic religion especially and inbred beduinic one, is considered positive.

Farsi people were great under Zoroastrianism, they had an empire spanning from Indus Valley to Basporas.
Persians are our indo-european brothers and should reconvert back to their great roots. I wish them luck.
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>>136210611
With the Iskamic revolution came laws allowing pedophilia and bestiality.
IRANIANS - ditch your Ayatollahs and embrace Ahura Mazda.
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Shia Grand
Ayatollah, 1979-89 said in his official statements:

"A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However,
he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia).
If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible
for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one
of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the
girl's
sister. It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and
at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying
his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven."

Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990
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"If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrement become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned."
"A man can have sex with sheep, cows and camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine."

Khomeini's "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990
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>>136225768
>>136226030
This is what happens when you have a people who succumbed to Chaos, and you need to find a way to spell out what is and is not "ok" in a way that they can follow to help slowly civilize them over time, with more sensible laws a few generations later.

That, or literal Antichrist
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ITT: Pagan larpers
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>>136226591
t. kike
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>>136226591
>implying you're not the pagan
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>>136226669
Explain this.
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>>136226744
Pretty sure you're the filthy pagan.
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>>136226030
he was a strange cunt
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>>136210611
Good thing obviously. Now if Europeans do the same thing and drop their kike religion, that'd be great, too.
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>>136210611
Christianity is the only true religion. Other religions like paganism, Judaism, Shintoism, the one you mentioned, etc. are just Jewish tricks.
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>>136225187

t. Jafar Ali Hussain

>2017
>still pushing the we are white meme
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>being a pussy zoroastrian
>not following the teachings of mazdak
Cowards
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>>136210611
>Iranian youth are converting back to their Zoroastrian routes in large numbers
How about you give a sauce on that before you get 173 replies?
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All followers of Abrahamic religions must have some reverence towards Zoroastrians as Cyrus the Great freed God's people and helped rebuild the temple.
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>>136226766
That you're a Christian with a cuckfetish. It's highly common in your communities.
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>>136226918
>shintoism
Wrong. The jew fears the samurai
>paganism
Europe was pagan for millenia before it had any contact with the jews. Your religion is a jewish psyop gone out of control, no different from Islam
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>>136210611
As long as they ditch the religion that crashes planes into buildings and rapes people then it's fine by me.
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>>136210611
News to me,but enh, couldn't be any worse than following a pedophiles teachings.
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>>136210611
Nobody cares, we're bombing sandniggers for the oil they squat on, not because we take interest in your incest rituals.
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>>136210611
If Persians go full zorostrian I no longer want to genocide them
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>>136215450
Western civilization is c a n c e r
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>>136224311
you can link any source you want, it still doesn't change the fact Cyrus is mentioned by name in Isaiah 150 years before he was born. not only that Zoroaster is several hundred years AFTER BOTH the 4 Vedas and the Torah. so regardless this weblink is still intelectually dishonest, and falsifiable considering both collections i listed were written in 1500BC at a total of 500-1000 years before Zoroaster was born.
to anyone who does even a little bit of homework
are you going to link me wikipedia as proof the holocaust happened too?
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>>136210611
I like Zoroastrianism so I think it's a good thing. If I believed in dualism, it'd definitely be one of my top choices for religions.
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>>136210611
>back to zoroaster
>in Iran
Bullshit
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>>136211800
FUCKING THIS times 2
>less Muslims
>makes Iran even stronger as they aren't hindered by bullshit Muslim dogma
>becomes super power in middle East
>Arabs live under Persian boot
>they don't worship a desert dwelling pedophile
And if Zoroastrianism is shit well it's still a win
>muzzies hate pagans more than Christians or even kikes
>muzzies divert attention back to middle East to fight new pagans
It's a win win. As long as Persians dont try invading Greece again shit. They'll be pretty based for leaving Islam as a ethnic group
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>>136212332

how many lebanese look white?
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>>136215450
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeism
prove me wrong
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>>136210611
good for them, I wish Egyptian youth start to back for our great religion, please Ra open their eyes
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>>136210611
Not really true, but they're definitely abandoning islam en masse. The only people into zoroastrianism are either real zartoshtis from Iran (still around, but a minority), or weird persian nationalists that really hate islam and arabs since it's from foreign invaders and grab onto the local zoroastrianism. Most young city people are just secular.
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>>136210611
>Iranian youth are converting back to their Zoroastrian routes in large numbers
no they aren't. Iran is an islamic country, they cannot spread shirk very far before getting the axe.
also:
>route
free-for-all spelling of 'root', is it? goddamn I hate illiterates so much.
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>>136227120
Why do that tho?
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ancient persians where white people senpai
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>>136213998
Zoroastrianism is a pagan religion though.
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>>136232217
you want to go ahead and define pagan.
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>>136211779
Yes you can that is a cultural this from a sect in India which fled the Islamic Invasion and an agreements with the local lords was they could have refuge, so long as they did not convert any others. This is a cultural thing which has stuck.
Also there were many new Zoroastrian converts under the Sassanid dynasty.
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>>136220279
>my ancestor
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>>136232343
Non-Abrahamic
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>>136232490
that's a pretty facetious way to put it.
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Good, I'm happy for them. Keep it indigenous.
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>>136210611
That would be great. Zorastrianism is legit and they have a great way with dealing with dead bodies
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>>136232217
fuck off the religions are unified
christ is pagan if you're jungian and study ancient history and myth
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>>136212332

>Naming your city after the devil

Well ok.
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>all these butthurt christians
>islam is better
Lol, the goyim know!
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>>136210611
Yes, that's fucking awesome.
We need to save ancient middle-eastern culture from the muslim steamroller.
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Question for christians: How do you validate your belief if you cannot do the miracles jesus promises, you cannot test god and magic for checking out is forbidden?
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>>136210611
>in large numbers

Give me some figures please.
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>>136210611
No it isn't a positive
Iranians created Zoroastrianism back when they we're white
There isn't an Iranian alive that is white anymore, henceforth them converting back would be the equivalent of the Turks that picked up Jewdaism after the last of the likes were wiped out
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>>136210820
>Pagan
Fuck off christcuck your kind belongs on /x/
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>>136210872
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>>136210611
This is positive as Persian's Zoroastrian ideology is much more peaceful than Islam.
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>>136210611

Eh, well Iran's form of Shia Islam isn't the worst thing out there to begin with so I'm not sure if this is an improvement or not. It would be nice for them to become Catholics though
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>>136234123
>Iranians created Zoroastrianism back when they we're white

WE
WUZ
KANGZ
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>>136211358
>my friend
>kekistani flag
ask me how i know you just shitposting
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>>136210611
yes, Persians ftw
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>>136234207
wrong , you prancing in forests belong to/x/, faggot
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>>136210611

You can't become or convert to Zoroastrianism unless your parents were Zoroastrian you dumbass OP.
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>>136234767
They were literally white, old your god damn homework instead of just guessing faggot
>>136235292
>I don't like that you don't believe my skykike therefore I'm going to call you names
Pathetic
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>>136233963
Anyone?
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>>136235525
>They were literally white, old your god damn homework instead of just guessing faggot
>Egyptians were literally black, old your god damn homework instead of just guessing faggot

see >>136220279
Zoroaster was literally a middle eastern persian

shut the fuck up nigger, Hinduism and Judaism are 500-900 years older than Zoroastrianism in the first place depending on where you place Zoroaster's birth between 1000-600BC
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>>136235512
That's not a global rule, only for some practicioners.
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>>136235512

>implying Zoroastrians are Parsi.

Idiot.
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>>136235525
>i believe in elves and fairies
ahahaha
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>>136210611
I wish. Unfortunately I doubt it.

Islam is cancer to its own adherents, but it's a cancer they enjoy.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Anti-Buddhist_Persecution
>The job isn't complete

This time add Islam along with all other Abrahamic inventions to the list.

Only pagan religions are not invented and each ethnicity has their own set of pagan gods.
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>>136219088
Fucking Christ, if you're gonna genuinely follow a religion then just do it fucking moron.
Sorry but, all these replies and threads about """alternative religions"" just reek of butthurt about Christianity.
This is why I can't take Pagans seriously.
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>>136211482
Zoroastrians are good, but they inbreed possibly more than muslims
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>>136211538
>>136212125
Of course one can convert, its just the iranian zoros wont convert you because they cucked out to the muslims, promising not to converty people in exchange for not dying.
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>>136212332
Baal is an aztec tier human sacrifice cult
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>>136210611
I'm iranian no they fucking aren't converting back to Zoroastrianiam. They converting to Baha'i or Christianity. Zoroastrians don't accept converts. They technically do in Iran but they don't want any.
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>>136240270
>Possibly more

It was literally seen as a noble act to marry your mother among some zoroastrian sects. Zoroastrianism was like Islam on steroids. Though the ones remaining in Iran are very docile.
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>>136210611
>Iranian youth are converting back to their Zoroastrian routes in large numbers, does /pol/ consider this a positive, I think its good to see mighty Persians ditching their Arab religion that decimated a large part of there glorious culture and tradition and enslaved them.

Sauce?

And Ahura Mazda is a cool name for a deity - just saying.
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Iranian here, yes getting rid of islam is a good thing but they should convert to Christianity.
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>>136221480
Lmao dumbass it wasn't bloody in the first place but the safavid messed shit up and forced conversion.
kys
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>>136242692
Eastern Orthodox Iran , splendid empire
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>>136215581
The Koran is satanic I never said that, it's a made up book full of lies authored by Satan.
The bible is Gods word. Can you stop shitposting for one second of your life?
>>136217357
No I am not, I'm Hungarian
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>all these blue pilled people saying they hate Muslims
In ARABIC MUSLIM means someone who SUBMITS THEMSELVES TO GOD
this is a Christian! A Christian is a Muslim, those who call themselves that are liars, they want YOU to think they submit to God they don't! They are muhammedons they follow muhammeda teachings passed down to him by Satan who disguised himself as an Angel of light! Wake up people!
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>>136210611
It would seriously be amazing if Iranians became Zoroastrians again.

Remember Iran went through the same thing the west is going through. A communist rebellion sprung up after many decades of trying to destroy their culture and like they do in the west the communists allied with the islamists and put imams in charge while they fought and won their revolution.

Only problem for them is the Imams told the commies to fuck off and already had control over the country when all was said and done.
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>>136236955
As opposed to nose, incest and little boy with bird wings?
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>>136210611
>Zoroastrian
Incest is wincest.
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>>136210872
Get out and take your fedora with you. Pretentious ignorant leaf.
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>>136234695
>Shia islam not the worst
>implying Islam in general is not bad

Nice try Ali
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>>136245680
I'm not an atheist I think atheism is a mental sickness
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Tip for those who think Iran is really islamic, it is only written in laws and so on, but people drink and break every fucking rule of sharia, it's just a joke, take a look at this picture
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>>136220852
>>136221031
Not an argument. You lose.
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>>136210611
Unlike Islam, Zoroastrianism actually has some cool lore and creates a civilization with very interesting culture. It's still a false religion but it is much preferred over Islam just like most any other religion. But then again the biggest persecution of the Christians first came from jews then pagans then catholics then protestants. Islam has been a destructive force for sure but just like any religion that gets state power, they tend to persecute and oppress anyone who differs from their belief.
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>>136210611
I want to believe this but there's no way of knowing since the Iranian government is so strict. Since you can't leave Islam without being murdered, we'll never have official statistics.
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>>136245536
yes it keeps your family bloodline pure af.
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>>136211621
You are a disgrace to the leaf because you are retarded
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>>136245340
No, /frere/ as opposed to Saint Paisios,Saint Iosif and Saint Porphyrios (all three alive in the 90'ies)
when did the Catholics last have a proper saint.
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>>136226591
>Hahahahaha pagan larpers hahahaha
>We need to start a new crusade! Deus Vult!!
Got em.
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>>136219637
>they despise converts
only poo in loo zoroastrians
they're dying out because of that too
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>>136247092
How am I retarded?
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>>136249581
Islam is gay you faggot, if you want islam go to saudi arabia where they will treat you like a dog because you're not muslim and rape you, are you tredu or something?
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I thought apostasy had the death penalty
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Zoros know whats up more than modern religions.
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>>136210611
Deus VULT fellow frogs
Pic not related but its funny
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>>136250256
I never said I support Muhammedanism you retard!
Islam means submission to God! Read what I said, Muhammedans don't submit to God they follow Satan!
Christians are the TRUE Muslims, we are the only religion on Earth!
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>>136210611
B-but Islam is Middle-Eastern CIVILIZATION! They are LARPers.
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>>136212573

Or it was just made up like the Japanese emperor's ancient lineage which supposedly stretches back to 660BC
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>>136210611
It's very good. Persians>muslims
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>>136250895
Buenos dias, fellow whites.
Pic not related but its funny
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>>136251237
Good day to you too,my good sir.
Who's everything doing, fellow follower of the prophet?
Pic unrelated, its funny
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>>136250895
the sins of the father
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>>136250923
>Christians are the TRUE Muslims
you're on drugs, come talk later
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>>136252311
>Muslim" is an Arabic word meaning "one who submits (to God)"
From Wikipedia
Tell me how I'm wrong?! CHRISTIANS DONT SUBMIT TO GOD?!
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>>136252541
>leaf
>spreading lies
Go figure

>>Muslim" is n Arabic word meaning "one who submits (to God)"
>From (((Wikipedia)))

>CHRISTIANS DONT SUBMIT TO GOD?!
Our God=/= Allah
That's probably a hard concept to understand for a brain dead leaf like you
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>>136210611
They should try to reconnect with the Indian Parsi community if they really want to go back to their Zoroastrian roots. Parsis are decreasing in numbers unfortunately and their community won't exist within a hundred years. They're probably as close as Persians will get to their ancestors pre Islamic culture.
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>>136210611
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!
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>>136210611
Islam is not a religion. It's a political system.
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>>136252860
Allah is Satan, he disguised himself as an Angel of light and spread his satanic message to Muhammed, that's why they're muhhamedans. Using the word Muslim means you're acknowledging these Satanists submit to God, that's 110% false!
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>>136221954
>metions Cyrus by name
And what name was exactly mentioned? You do realize "Cyrus" is not his real name right? It's just what europeans call him.
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>>136210611
Big if true
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>>136210611
It should tell you something significant when religious cannibalism is more palatable than Islam.
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>>136210611
>routes
>voiceposting

faget
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>>136212659
Iran will be non-Islamic within 50 years, once the younger generations take over. They know it's an alien religion. One of the biggest tragedies was Islam taking over advanced and civilized Persia. If Islam had never gotten a foothold there, Persia would be a superpower and one of the best places to live on earth.

Every Persian I know hates Islam.
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