Syria General /sg/ - Real /sg/ Hours Edition

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ASSADWIN

>>136203374
negermusik is shit

>>136203374
>sees nigger in thumbnail
NOPE

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DEATH TO AMERICA
DEATH TO ENGLAND
DEATH TO ISRAEL
DEATH TO SAUDI
DEATH TO KURDS
DEATH TO TURKS
DEATH TO UAE
DEATH TO INDIA
DEATH TO KUWAIT
DEATH TO FRANCE
DEATH TO UKRAINE
DEATH TO YAHOODI
DEATH TO BAHRAIN
DEATH TO WAHHABI
DEATH TO HOLLAND
DEATH TO MOROCCO
DEATH TO CATALUNYA
DEATH TO DIRTY SADDAMISTS
DEATH TO MONAFEGHIN & KUFFAR
DEATH TO THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE VELAYATE FAQIH

>>136203385

kek

I miss JIDF. they were actually competitive

>>136203418

what do you listen to Justin Bieber?

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chillin', killin'

>>136203481
No, I listen to ClariS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI7Vup_olYU

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THIS COALITION WILL WIN!

>>136203564

looks like some faggy anime shit

the youtube gods have spared me from that abomination

>video date April 1

ahh I see, it's just a prank bro

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>>136203771
>>136203564

>>136203820
>>136203771

fuck nevermind, Aug 1

still looks faggy :D

>>136203820
>>136203771
Land of the free

>>136203385
that gif is incredible. have the original?

>>136203771

>forgot pic
>misread date
>meant to just delete image from FP

what the fuck is going on in this thread

need another beer, looks like

you got first post after all canada bro

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Tiger.

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>>136203910

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whatcha listening to /sg/>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMe6Y8GDVEI

>>136203573
The nigger is fundamentally Jewish in nature.

>>136203573

Star of David is not really its name. That's the Seal of Solomon or the Star of Remphan quite possibly. (Remphan is a semetic god of the bronze age. Human sacrifice, sex rituals etc.)

I delve into symbolism.

"Star of David" is found no where in the Bible or Torah, it's found in Jewish Kabbalah, literally witchcraft. For good luck and such. It's also found in grimoires which backs up more evidence star of David isn't Jewish or Christian it's literally Satan.

And it's on the Israeli flag... Shame desu shame

>>136203980

this music is so based it would make Issam cry

https://youtu.be/xX-WFQkll_k

>>136203980

still

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmPxKVlWjt4

>>136203975
thanks broski

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>>136204187
Higher quality version somewhere?

>>136204201
Stop listening to degenerate music

>>136204001
the star of david is on the israeli flag because it's the Rothschild family crest.

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>>136203990

explain your reasoning

>>136204001

it's in hindu mythology too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shatkona

the kabbalah isn't witchcraft tho, I've studied some of it.

>literally Satan

no, see shatkona, etc.

>>136204365

I wouldn't know desu if you find link it, but I'll ask my Aleppo bro

>>136204447
Literally enforces the point I'm trying to make lol

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i would like a non-biased source that explains the kurdish/rojavan democratic confederation pseudo-anarchist model

i would go to a more pro kurd site to ask this but that would obviously be quite biased
is there something i could read watch that explains the rojavan economic/societal model without going into that stupid "muh brave feminist warrior" stuff and just talking bout its social/economic/societal policies?

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>>136203980
https://youtu.be/oRv317I739g?t=10s

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>>136203980

https://youtu.be/uNHCooopsXM

>>136204542

Kabbalah is esoteric BS made up by rabbis over the centuries not of God. It's Satanic. End of story on that one bud.

>>136203980
>>136204365

eh, it bumps/resonates. yours doesn't

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>>136204680
Aren't there any Mexican equivalent of this?

>>136204716

>not of God

where does one draw the line?

>I weave for God the garment you see him by

etc.

God is a figment of human imagination, a metaphor, etc.

>Satanic

no it's not. I just showed you it has a history in Hindu culture that has nothing to do with muh Satan. You just don't like Israel

>>136204859

>Where does one draw the line?
Is it biblical, that's pretty much where we draw line.

>God is a figment of human imagination, a metaphor, etc.

Esoteric BS get out demonic shill, get you some Jesus to get those demons out of you.

>>136204859
Hindu mythology is satanic as is everything that is not of God of the Christian Bible. World is black and white desu no gray spots.

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>>136203980
Not available on youtube so I uploaded it
https://my.mixtape.moe/lcgnvb.mp3

>>136204859

Also Been to Israel twice. Nice folk for the most part, shitty govt. All govt is shitty.

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>>136204758
>bumps

normie detected

>>136205286
>going to kikeland

>>136204180
>They got the help of French authorities, senpai
>De Gaulle got extremely angry when he learned what happened with Ben Bark
very contradicting
sounds more like a third party intervened inside of french administration
i really wonder which third party has links inside of french administration
(andré azoulay advisor of m6, audrey azoulay advisor of francois hollande but i'm sure it's just a new phenomenon, it couldn't have happened before, mossad dindu nuffin)

>Morocco was pretty peaceful and hadn't known terrorism
if it was the opposite i would be more likely to believe that morocco didn't risk to escalate tensions in the region, but that wasn't the case which is exactly why they could have afforded to attempt to turn the situation to their advantage

>I really doubt we would've funded the GIA, all in all. It just doesn't seem like something our gov would do.
morocco dindu nuffin, we gud boy, we don't export consumer goods for israel's benefits, we don't have links to israeli nationals in our government, we would have taken the Algerian influence in our backyard without any attempt of retaliation

the absolute state of moroccan denial

>>136205255
Catchy

>>136205191

I'm not religious.

>demonic shill

kek

>muh Jesus

fairy tale believing ass nigga

>Hindu mythology is satanic as is everything that is not of God of the Christian Bible. World is black and white desu no gray spots

and yet, had you been born in Hindustan you'd be hindustani. born in saudi arabia, Muslim, etc.

same God all the way around

lrn2transcend mythology. religion is a vehicle, that's all

>>136204187
>8 august 2017
this will be filmed in 4 days?

>>136205394

Something wrong with that? Went with my church changed the way I read the Bible, enforced my belief that Zionism is evil.

>>136205286
>Also Been to Israel twice. Nice folk for the most part,
thanks for reminding me that i forgot to filter you

>>136205395
Audrey Azoulay wasn't even born when this happened my dude

>we don't export consumer goods for israel's benefits
Still haven't provided a source :DDDDD

>we don't have links to israeli nationals in our government
No israeli nationals in the Moroccan government

>we would have taken the Algerian influence in our backyard without any attempt of retaliation
No Algerian influence in Morocco, polisario is irrelevant ever since the 70s

>but that wasn't the case which is exactly why they could have afforded to attempt to turn the situation to their advantage
I don't understand the reasoning. We wouldn't have attempted to break that equilibrium in the first place.

>morocco dindu nuffin
Meanwhile all you have to accuse Morocco of supporting the GIA is what-ifs.

>>136205565

It's a typo read first comment on video

>>136205333

checked, I said resonates too

how many normies know what that means?

>>136205286

Jews don't believe in Jesus. are they demonic too? and yet, their OT forms the foundation of your Bible; Jesus was a Jew

>>136205547

New Age shill

And you think I believe in fairy tales? TOPKEK

No more (You)'s for you shill.

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>>136205547
>still not believing the jewish world order are the servants of Satan
tsz

>>136205806

Jews will not go to heaven because only through Jesus they can go to heaven.

Jesus was flawless and did not sin in any form. He upheld the law something no mortal man can do.

>>136205584
>>136205584

I say I met nice people in Israel and filter? What a jackass.

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>>136203980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22L5FCNPkrA

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>christians who ignore science arguing with edgelord new ageists who ignore science
snakes chasing their own tails.....

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>>136206167
No

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>>136205286
>been to Israel
>twice
yfw this guy is a mossad agent

>>136206271

Et tu Ebin? Shame.

>>136205811

>No more (You)'s for you shill.

....next post >>136205964

we disagree. religion is a geographic phenomenon largely

righteousness is the measure, not some bullshit just believe in a fairy tale nigger, get right

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>>136206367
lol

>>136206212

Don't ignore science at all actually, Christianity and science go hand in hand.

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>>136206484
their is quite literally no evidence that a creator-diety exists

>>136206750
Based

>>136206750
>there
fixed

>>136205890

>jewish world order

>being this paranoid

there are good Jews and bad Jews, just like in any people

>>136206750

There is literally no evidence that a creator doesn't exist.

Come on now...

Inb4 redshifts= big bang.

>>136206750

*deity

>>136206750

it's not about evidence

God is a metaphor for the entire universe, and the good part thereof

like "day" refers to 24 hours and also the light portion thereof (opposed to night)

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>>136205666
>Audrey Azoulay wasn't even born when this happened my dude
the point is that the connections in both government still exist
why do you think i said
>but i'm sure it's just a new phenomenon, it couldn't have happened before
>Still haven't provided a source
pic related
i even bought some boxes of canned sardines produced in morocco to be exported to israel
i'll get you a pic when i'll buy some again
>No israeli nationals in the Moroccan government
i didn't say as officials, read this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89minence_grise
>No Algerian influence in Morocco, polisario is irrelevant ever since the 70s
irrelevant but still a thorn in morocco's side, enough to try to get rid of
>We wouldn't have attempted to break that equilibrium in the first place.
the equilibrium was already broken when gia rose, morocco saw it as an opportunity to make the most of it

at least you don't give me autistic answers like (((morokike)))

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Am I stupid for supporting Assad because at least Syria won't fall into chaos? And am I right to say that if Syria were in chaos that would boost Israels capability to move oil around?

>>136206750

The Cosmological Argument: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TVaeZAtP70U5Co5WOirhinQ

Good start to realizing why scientific explanation of universe doesn't make a lick of sense.

>>136207087

Assad isn't the point

war with Israel is coming, soon after the whole world; war in Syria has been delaying the inevitable

>136206750
>6 replies to this

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>>136204705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpBbKUrHTQQ

>>136207124

More based Christianity theology

The Ontological Argument: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TXf-YyDFKXw90izlvLZ14ka

>>136206892
thanks missed that

>>136206859
well to be honest i treat religious dietys much like i treat bigfoot
sure theres is no proof bigfoot dosent exist but that dosent mean bigfoot exists
i just use the occams razor method of reasoning and assume that something that cant be heard/felt/seen/detected likely dosent exist
and no i dont just blindly believe the big bang concept either it has its own problems
but just cuz theory B has flaws dosent immediate prove theory A right

>>136207259

The Teleological Argument: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TWm8FazK3fm9cSG8H9NftjG

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>>136206750
And what are the evidences that a creator-diety doesn't exists?
just curious

>>136206812
>good Jews and bad Jews
i didn't say all just the (((strip puller))) ones
>pic related

>>136207179
>war with Israel is coming
why do I find this hard to believe

>>136207337

See

>>136207343
>>136207259
>>136207124


Honestly if you have time to kill watch them if anything it'll give you a different perspective on Christian theology in regards to science and philosophy.

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>>136206974
>the point is that the connections in both government still exist
So in an affair which concerns the French secret services and Moroccan ones about killing a Moroccan left-wing dissident, the only thing you could say was that... hypothetically, the mossad's behind it?

Come on, you can do better than that, my dude.

>i'll get you a pic when i'll buy some again
Waiting for it :^)

>i didn't say as officials
>muhhh deep Moroccan state is actually jewish
lol

>irrelevant but still a thorn in morocco's side, enough to try to get rid of
There is no way to get rid of polisario by weakening Algeria. Their military force is dead and all that remains is their political one, and even if Algeria got entirely nuked, there would still be conflicts at the UN since polisario would be represented there.

>morocco saw it as an opportunity to make the most of it
And once again, no proofs apart from "m-maybe they could have done it"

>the equilibrium was already broken when gia rose
And we only ended up with one terrorist attack in 1994 thanks to our non-intervention in the conflict :DDDDDD

>>136206750
Then riddle me this:
>The basic thesis of evolution theory postulates that humans came from apes, apes from insects/reptiles or some shit, then that from plants, then plants from bacteria, and bacteria from amino acids
>all those are living materials, correct?
Now we get to the difficult part.
>The theory of evolution would postulate that the living materials came from nonliving materials
>I ask this: what caused nonliving materials to become living?
>Where did the 'spark of life' come from?
>How did it happen?
>Why?
Let's also tackle the Big Bang Theory.
>Big Bang Theory states that the universe started with a big bang, and before that, there was a superdense supertiny red ball that spontaneously exploded.
>Why did it explode when it could just stay inert?
>Better yet, where did it come from?
>Before you say it was a previous universe, let's take that train all the way to the very beginning.
>Let's assume that there were universes before this one.
>What started the first one?
>If you say that the prime universe started with the red ball that began the big bang, then where did said red ball come from?
>Did it just come into existence on its own?
>if so, why?
>When you think about this, existence by itself cannot possibly happen on its own because it's literally the prime mover argument.
>Something came from something.
>What was the first something?
>Where did it come from?
>Why did the first something come into existence to begin with?
>Why do we even exist at all?

>>136207459
>And what are the evidences that a creator-diety doesn't exists?
debunked that arguement here
>>136207337
just cuz u dont have proof something dosent exist dosent mean it exists

Gas Israel and Ukraine when?

>>136204667
It's nazism but for brown people with a certain smell and no ressources to share.

>>136207459
Burden of proof is on the person making the positive claim

>>136207551

See

>>136207497

All questions answered in this series

>>136207551
i dont know
i know that there are some flaws in evolutionary and the big bang theories
but like i said here.....
>>136207337
just cuz theory A has flaws it dosent somehow prove theory B true

>>136207807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbO0t3srgE4

>>136207551
>The basic thesis of evolution theory postulates that humans came from apes
False from the beginning

>Where did the 'spark of life' come from?
>How did it happen?
>Why?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment

>Better yet, where did it come from?
We just don't know. It's not a shameful thing to say: we thought back then that lightning was an act of god. Now we know how it works.

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>>136207179
>>136207467
>war with Israel is coming
it's true
https://youtu.be/aXOSWv1wF5E

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>>136203980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MRtdd3tXI4

>>136207551
Answering either of those qustions with 'God' doesnt actually solve any of those mysteries. Its just intellectual laziness.

>>136207866

https://youtu.be/xfr64zoBTAQ

>>136208182

See

>>136207497

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>>136207616
>debunked that argument here
lol this is saudi tier debunking

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>>136207551
Have a webm of the miller-uray experiment

>>136207239
noice

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>>136207532
>So in an affair which concerns the French secret services and Moroccan ones about killing a Moroccan left-wing dissident
why the fuck does france secret services would give a shit about moroccan internal affairs ?
>Waiting for it
you already have this one
any comment ?
>muhhh deep Moroccan state is actually jewish
nice strawman, the point is that there is israeli influence or as you'd call it israeli-moroccan mutual cooperation since morocco is definitely not a pupet :^)
>There is no way to get rid of polisario by weakening Algeria
laughing my ass out
as if polisario wouldn't be heavily weakened if algeria stopped giving them gibs and weapons and a place to train and have rear support
the rest that would be left would be easily scoop up by the moroccan security forces

>>136208182
its a "argument" called "god of the gaps"
basically it goes like this....
"u cant prove how/why A happened thus god did it"

>>136207551
i could give you my POV as medanon but honestly it's too much of a mess when discussed between people that have some background knowledge in biology

>>136208267
Covered them all of them in high school philosophy m8, as well as why they dont work. There is no convincing argument for God. Theyre all intelectually dishonest

>>136208559
But you can't disprove it either.
>This question actually kills both sides, because even though the existence of God explains everything, there is still the question of:
>Where did God come from?
>How did he come into existence?
>WHY does he even exist?
WE SHOULDN'T EVEN EXIST AT ALL, BUT WE DO!

>>136206859

Construction Bro, why not make a memorial in Damascus in memory of all the SAA and Hezbollah soldiers killed in the War?

>>136208780
A question totally off the subject of you, I know, but I felt like asking.

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>>136207770
lol the more western society is driving away from key moral principals that are more than 2000year old you see that is falling apart more and more.

I mean every christian knowed that lending money with interest is absolute forbidden, yet today we live in a corrupt finance system that can't work properly and have to collapse.
>No we just need more jobs
for what? the dept is killing the whole system anyways.
Than the degeneracy with the gay shit and social structures falling apart
>we just need more common sense
apparently the less "god exists" the more degeneracy appears.

>>136208780

What a based ass idea, now need to find an architect willing to design something like that. Thanks Brazil bro

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>>136206790
>Atheism
>based

>>136208745
>>Where did God come from?
never understood this question
why is it hard for these people to consider the possibility that god always existed and didn't come from anything or was created by anything ?

>>136205255
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OVUUYfGGw8
>Is Morocco Being Groomed For Another Arab Spring?
is this any true or...?
stay safe either way lad

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>>136208929

O-Ok.

>>136208745
Has anyone cited the Five Way Theory?

>>136208540
>why the fuck does france secret services would give a shit about moroccan internal affairs ?
I'm not going to explain the whole fucking Ben Barka affair to you my dude, especially since it's so complex and even now is still ongoing with new elements being revealed once in a while

>you already have this one
Yeah, "Morroco", nice spelling
reverse image search literally only gives me pro-polisario blogs, do you really want me to believe based on a single image that what you said is true when this seems like an obvious shop?

>the point is that there is israeli influence or as you'd call it israeli-moroccan mutual cooperation since morocco is definitely not a pupet :^)
The thing is that you do not have any proof of that apart from Operation Yachin related to the sale of Moroccan jews to Israel during the 40's and 50's.
All you've been doing since earlier is tip-toeing around that fact by playing on the "Morocco is kiked lol" viewpoint.

>as if polisario wouldn't be heavily weakened if algeria stopped giving them gibs and weapons and a place to train and have rear support
Wait, you actually think Morocco wouldn't be able to absolutely storm the polisario if we wanted to? It's all open desert and we have a competent air force.
The problem is political, once again, not military. Polisario barely consists of 10k men right now, they wouldn't be a military threat even with a nuclear bomb on their side.

>>136209061
Everything MUST have a beginning. Something comes from something. Everything came from God, so where did God come from?

>>136208745
i agree u cant dipsrove god
but like i have said multiple times just because u cant disprove something isnt proof it exists
i ultimatel dont know understand wh we are here
morroco showed some arguements in favor of evolution here......
>>136207918
but even he admits u cant prove the big bang theory is correct but that dosent somehow prove creation theory correct

>>136208720

Can you explain how they're being intellectually dishonest?

Also highschool philosophy... Come on man. Gotta do your own research not just listen to one dude. I just picked this guy because his explanation was closest to mine.

>>136209061
>>Where did the universe come from
never understood this question
why is it hard for these people to consider the possibility that the universe always existed and didnt come from anything or was created by anything?

>>136208720
>High school philosophy
lol

>>136209384
What shitty school did you go to that didn't have Religion and Philosophy lessons?

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>>136209248
>morroco showed some arguements in favor of evolution here
But all they do is show a process. They don't explain why that process even exists to begin with.
>Damn! This is how people get blackpilled.
At least Marcus Aurelius had some wise advice for this

>>136209230
>Everything MUST have a beginning
says who ?
>>136209357
i don't deny this possibility, but the big bang theory seems to contradict it

>>136209230
Take five minutes my dude
https://youtu.be/kKKIvmcO5LQ

>>136209230
God is the only thing that has no beginning and no end. God is infinite, and has no limits. Therefore this is only natural.

>>136203385
Inshallah!

>>136209541

Most rational statement on this whole topic.. thanks dude

>>136209485
philosophy is all a bunch of pseudointellectual bullshit. I didn't waste my time, I actually pursued something meaningful

>>136209498
>If you do not know that you are following Christ, then you are still following Christ.
This is actually an exception to "No Salvation Outside of the Church".

>>136206750
>>136207551
>deity
>not deities
Unless God is a schizo I can't buy the argument one deity is responsible for everything

>>136209135
The protests are limited to the rif region (nobody supports the hirak in any other place, including traditionally berber regions like the souss which are particularly well integrated into the traditional Moroccan state).

The worst of the protests has passed already, they've reduced in scale a lot now especially since the government has sped up the development projects in the region. I don't think there's anything to fear, honestly.

Also
>Southfront shows entire northwest, including Tanger, as part of the protests
lolno, it's pretty much just the mountainous areas

The video is pretty good apart from that except that the Gulf conflict viewpoint for the events are completely overblown... I doubt this is influenced by MB as much as diaspora + drug trade. It started well before the gulf crisis occurred and relations between Qatar and Morocco have never been threatened before that.

i think we should just drop this topic
its going to be impossible for us to reach a consensus on this
we are simply coming at this from two different angles
i am coming at it from a purely scientific level
while u are coming at it from a more philosophical/moral level

>>136209852
why not? world is a simulation bro.

>>136209852
The Holy Trinity is composed of three persons contained within one God and one united Will. For Him, nothing is impossible.

>>136209498
>They don't explain why that process even exists to begin with.
... physics?
If you're putting the mechanism of abiogenesis in question, then might as well question everything related to physics.

>>136209541
If God has no beginning and no end, then why not consider that the universe might be the same?

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>>136208559
>>136209323
Its not just that. Theists like to say that everything has a cause in the universe and thus the universe itself must have a cause (cosmological argument). However thats dishonest and lazy.
Dishonest because by observing laws of nature they come to the conclusion that everything must have a cause. However they go outside the observable natural order of the universe in order to justify their god ie. the possibility of an entity without a cause.
Another problem is that youre basically taking this consept of a prime cause and renaming it God for some reason while there is no justification for it. You're basically anthropomorphizing a force of nature that may or may not exist, refusing to search any further into its origins.
You cant simply create an idea of God, slap the attribute of of having no causality to it and claim that because it has no beginning a priori that your concept is infallible. Everything we see in nature has a cause. Therefore God must too.

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>>136207179
>>136207973
I certainly hope so, can't wait to see Tehran and Damascus glassed

>>136210018
It's funny, back in the old days of Socrates and shit, "Natural Philosophy" is basically what served as their "science". They had a very muddled pre-rational view of the world, so their attempts to explain natural phenomena delved into these grand philisophical pronouncements.

The true offspring of "philosophy" as it was known back then is physics today. Not the hall of mirrors that is the discipline of Philosophy today

>>136210118
This is elaborated upon by Plato, who contends that the observable universe is part of something larger which has no beginning and no end.

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>>136209913
oh thanks
well stay safe either way lad
dont want you end up dead or hurt

So is assad just not leaving foua?

>>136209204
REEEEEE
morocco did it i know it :^)

more seriously, who gave gia most of it's funding ?

>do you really want me to believe based on a single image that what you said is true when this seems like an obvious shop?
mark this on a piece of paper to remember it
when i'll get my hands on that box of sardines, i'll upload a pic to you
no jokes
the can was in a green cardboard box, with the logo of a woman carrying an amphora on her shoulder

>>136209512
the big bang theory isn't what you think it is, it doesn't claim that everything was created during the big bang. There are people who claim that, sure, but what the big bang theory suggests is that based on our current understanding of the universe, and the data avaliable it seems like the universe is expanding incredibly fast and has been for the last 14 billion odd years. At that rate, the universe would at one point been very small, and almost infinitely dense, and then began to explode outwards. What happened before is impossible to tell. The universe could well have existed forever before then, in a continual cycle of expanding and then falling in on itself over and over
also
>>Everything MUST have a beginning
>says who ?
The cosmological argument

>>136210255
Metaphysics is beyond physics. The point is that it goes beyond the observable. Modern physics simply discarded it in favor of trash opinions.

>>136210226
a wild jewish wahhabi appears

>>136210051

See

https://youtu.be/v2Xsp4FRgas


>>136210169

See

https://youtu.be/kKKIvmcO5LQ

You're using circular reasoning dude.. logical fallacy.

>>136210477
>Metaphysics is beyond physics. The point is that it goes beyond the observable
Which means, it's a bunch of fucking bullshit

If you have no observable results, you're flinging shit on the wall. You're speculating about the colors of paintings in a dark room

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>>136210302
Don't worry, I'm far from the troubled regions anyway

Anyway I'm probs going to sleep for now, good night!

>>136210418
>who gave gia most of it's funding ?
pic related minus "alleged" :DDDDDDDD

>mark this on a piece of paper to remember it
Duly noted, you better deliver faget

>>136210051
if its all really a simulation then it works, but in a more traditional religious framework I've never been able to accept some of the silly rationalizations for God being a wrathful cunt and a benevolent saint simultaneously (with the emphasis varying by sect/denomination)
>>136210063
>3 people
>one God
how is this monotheism? I have never gotten a decent explanation of the holy trinity that isn't modern philosophy tier shenanigans

>>136210620
Can you tell me where this fallacy is instead of directing me to a youtibe video?

>>136210654
>I've never been able to accept some of the silly rationalizations for God being a wrathful cunt and a benevolent saint simultaneously
This world is a test to see who gets to join god in the server room

>>136210644
Good night lad

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>>136203980
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YUQzE7ff8pQ

>>136210449
>The cosmological argument
it's not a universal referential

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>>136210751
>god is a sysadmin
Really explains him being at the same time good and evil

>>136210744

It's 5 minutes and well put together plus I'm watching a movie and don't feel like explaining lol

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>>136210644
>he fell for the trap
thanks for proving me right :DDDDDDDD

>>136210751
But where are the proofs?
>>136210899
He was pointing out the flaw in the cosmological argument

>>136211042
>minus "alleged"
I predicted you :^

>>136206101
No such thing as a good jew Tbh
I've never been to Israel, been to Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Iraq back in fucking 1989

>>136211076
Or, you could say the world is managed by some super powerful self-evolving AI with a 10,000,000 IQ
Who even knows

Point is, god is certainly very possible, and may even be probable

>>136211134

I would have to agree with you our guides we're all Christian Arabs these asshats assumed I only met with Jews.

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>>136211093
it's the fact that you didn't have source without the obvious and confirmed heavy collusion of morocco in the GIA support :DDDDDDD

>>136209852
The Romans had the right idea

>>136211318
>confirmed
says "alleged" right there senpai
Anyway REALLY going to sleep now ;_; gnight

>>136211287
>possible
ok
>probable
no

>>136211361
Good Night Moroccanon

>>136210018
Why would we need to reach a consensus?
It's not a hive mind

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>>136211361
i was memeing with "obvious" "confirmed" and "heavy"
gnight moroccobro

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>>136211462

I like your attitude Gruber, check out my building slab.

>>136210870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvbpQx-dQfQ

>>136211609
What are you building

>>136210624


>>136210654
God = 3
Unlike polytheism, they never conflict. Unlike the Greek gods, the Father never devours the Son or the Holy Spirit, and vice versa.

But do you ever do anything you feel is wrong, or that you should stop doing, and just keep doing it?

An easy way to explain the tripartite nature of God is to look at ourselves. We keep doing bad things, and then saying "I've got to stop." and doing it again. Smoking, drinking, binge-watching anime, fucking, masturbating, looking at porn. And all the while, someone says I've got to stop, and someone doesn't.

God likewise has multiple persons within himself. Can we mortals, as we stand today, truly comprehend him? No, we can't. But nevertheless, despite the fact God doesn't sin, God is tempted. The Son, specifically, is tempted. God as a whole never sins; I might add, the three persons in one God of the Holy Trinity do not sin as well. But God does experience temptation. And we do too. We just succumb to it, unlike God.

>>136210624
In regards to your belief that metaphysics has no observable results, how do you come to the idea that observation has value? Tell me. How do you justify the value of observation?

>>136210961
>lol i dont feel like responding just watch the video lmao
has discussion devolved to a point where rather than people having independent thought they just link each other to videos of other people debating and never truly consider their position or the other persons, merely existing in their lonely echochamber
.>>136211287
>literally infinite conceivable religions
>each one of equal likelihood
The chances of your religion being right are literally infinitely small.

>>136211708

Office building for some property tax lawyers. 7k sqft building using a modular wall system 1st of its kind in my area I think

>>136210961
The first 2 premises of the Leibnizian cosmological argument are faulty.
And you are still using circular logic by saying that God has no cause a priori and that this is a justifiable claim.

>/sg/ is now /construction & theology general/

>>136211839
>(((property tax lawyers)))
Do me a favor, and sneak a swastika in somewhere. Doesn't have to be visible, just has to be there.

>>136211768

I worked 14 hours and am talking with my Syrian qt. Forgive me if I don't want to have a full blown metaphysical argument lol I have a life outside /sg/

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>>136211609
How many bodies have you hidden below that slab tho?

>>136211937
im sorry i started this

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Hahahaahahahahaha Ass*dists having talk with SDF shits, ahahahaahah how low can he get.

>>136211937

Hiiii Sri Lankan bro kek it's no gainz so it's ok

>>136212061
lol its okay lad
/sg/ can be any kind of genreal when gains are slow
as long as it doesnt devolve into angry bullying of others or raiding

>>136211714
Because a proposition, especially one so large as theology needs to be substantiated with proof, otherwise it is just that, a proposition.

>>136212083
>>136212172
its okay lad

https://lichess.org/8EWmFetS

5 0

>>136212074
>hurr durr

>>136212074
>one post by ID
Fuck it, I'll bite. It's strategy. Assad can't fight everyone at once. He has to keep peace with the SDF. The SDF has to keep peace with Assad or they get invaded by Turkey. Both have to keep peace or ISIS benefits from it.

>>136211846

God's out of natural phenomenon so he doesn't need a cause. God is super natural so it's logical to assert my claim.

>>136211990
Topkek I will try my best but I leave for Miami Wednesday. Will post pics by Tuesday.

>>136210751
Theosis is real but simulation theory is kinda just...retarded. Pointless. Something like that.

>>136211287
God is not a computer. Please present arguments for everything you say in this thread. Don't just throw shit out there.

>>136212182
Ipse dixit nullus

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>>136211609
> mfw snapped one of the wire ties when laying conduit
> mfw the look on the reomesh mates face of pure anger

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>>136212215
>>136212223
Ass*adist trying to use reason ahahahahahah, pic related is your face.

>>136203442
>DEATH TO TURKS
>DEATH TO DIRTY SADDAMISTS
Fuck off.
>DEATH TO UKRAINE
What is an Ukraine?

>>136212023

Currently about 4...

>>136211714
>Unlike polytheism, they never conflict. Unlike the Greek gods, the Father never devours the Son or the Holy Spirit, and vice versa.
So it's literally polytheism but just three guys holding hands and singing kumbaya in unison? Doesn't matter that they aren't in conflict, they're still three separate entities.
>God likewise has multiple persons within himself.
my conscience and my base desires do not constitute separate people within myself, and in theory that'd help you except for the fact Jesus is clearly a separate entity from God the father.
Yeah I'm sorry man but the trinity is fucking bonkers and at least the Unitarians admit as much.

>>136212317

Kek!!! Omg dude the electricians made this so much more difficult than it needed to be. Especially because they were/are behind schedule

>>136212324
DEATH TO THE TURKS
DEATH TO THE DIRTY SADDAMIST SCUM
>What is an Ukraine?
It is the so-called name of the rebel "Republic" created by the United States and governed by the Kiev Junta, which administers the peripheral federal district of the Russian Federation.

>>136203442
>DEATH TO MONAFEGHIN & KUFFAR
DEATH TO ISLAM!

>>136212323
why is it bad to have talk with SDF?

>>136212714
Just filter his ID and move on.
He's just baiting for (You)s

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>>136212223

>>136212409
They are not three separate entities. They are three persons which are part of one entity.

>do not constitute separate people within myself
Keep telling yourself that bucko.
>id, ego, superego
Maybe you're a trinity too.

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>>136212563
>DEATH TO ISLAM!
You deserve Sarin.
>Kiev Junta
>Kiev
A what?

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>>136212714
I'll drop the act here. Was just trying my maghrebi impression, still not on point.

>>136212276
>God is super natural so it's logical to assert my claim.
Cant just make something up and say it doesnt have to abide by laws of nature.
I can say the cause of the big bang is supernatural and one of its attributes is also not being God. Doesnt mean it makes any sense. Especially if theres no empirical evidence

>>136211937

btw at this time /sg/ is always construction general gotta show my work so /sg/ can vouch for me when i go to Syria and start showing Syrians how to pour concrete and move dirt the Construction Bro way.

>>136210280
>>136210477

truth

>>136212516
> behind schedule electricians
Were the plumbers behind schedule as well?
Last site I was on we had boys from Tacoma doing the plumbing 3 weeks behind schedule and the electricians couldn't do jack shit but lay conduit on the decks and pull through telecom cabling.

Back in the day, they used to use the water main pipes as the earth for the houses

>>136212284
>please present arguments for everything you say in this thread
>doesnt present arguments or evidence, just postulates and expects you to believe it

also what the fuck is ipse dixus nullus supposed to mean? Putting nullus after the fallacy you're commiting doesn't mean you aren't commiting a fallacy

>>136212854
Kiev, the name of the federal city of the Russian Federation which the Junta calls "Kyiv" -- why do you not know about this?

>>136212875
Yeah, you got filtered because of your act. Ask Bouteflika for pointers
>when he's awake, jej

>>136212929
> tfw they'll use Rebel made hell canons as cement mixers

>>136212990
It's a declaration that your ipse dixit does not constitute an argument.

>>136212878

Natural laws of physics cannot apply to super natural phenomena. What is so wrong about that?

Now your claim is that God must be natural or else it isn't real, now you're making up rules.

>>136211937

Glory to Alla-, God!

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>>136213055
>Kiev, the name of the federal city
Is this like some sort of cheesy animu line?
>Kiev always exists in your heart /a/non.
>BAAAAW

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>>136211937
Off topic best topic

>>136213190
We will defeat the saracen in this holy crusade! All glory and power belong to the Father!

>>136212964

Plumbers are actually done with rough in and laying all water and sanitary lines. I do the storm water run off lines.

We're behind schedule because the Anchor Bolts are special with this wall system and the steel manufacturer is retarded, site has been like this for 2 weeks. I want to pour concrete now dammit!

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>>136213063
Just tell the other french anon it's the Jean-Marie poster, if he was already there, he probably saw me.

>>136212822
>three people
three clearly distinct entities that Trinitarians try to hand wave away by all folding into the overarching concept of God, and might I add God is the father part of the trinity itself which is just retarded.
>id, ego, superego
>Freudian Psychology
pretty much dropped from modern Psychology and only lives on thanks to popular belief

>>136213143

god = good, same letters

evil = devil, same letters

they're just ideas, connected to one another

metaphor, like I said

>>136213350
>We will defeat the saracen in this holy crusade! All glory and power belong to the Father!

#DEUSVULT AND HEAR SABATON :DDDDD

>>136213111
>what is the burden of proof
Y O U H A V E T O S U B S T A N T I A T E Y O U R C L A I M S

>>136213489

Thigh gaps = Illuminati

We can both play that game my dude

>>136213349
>that webm
Explain aussie.

>>136213143
>now you're making up rules.
Oh for fucks sake man. Stop projecting.
>Natural laws of physics cannot apply to super natural phenomena
Because supernatural phenomena have no basis in reality. You cant say that simply because you claim a thing has no beginning by your definition of it that I must accept it at face value. I can just as succesfully say the big bang had no cause and be done with the argument. But Im not that lazy. Literally God of the gaps all over again.

>>136213678
>Thigh gaps = Illuminati

doesn't follow

>>136213360
>>We're behind schedule because the Anchor Bolts are special with this wall system and the steel manufacturer is retarded
> ever letting yourself be at the manufacturer's mercy
When I was doing machine maintenance, a breakdown with no spare parts was a horrible horrible prospect since these machines were about 15 years old and the manufacturer was Italian or german most of the time, so you would have to rely on either having a similar part to replace the broken shit with (say replacing a 10 year old PLC with a 5 year old powerflex PLC) or you would have to rely on manufacturers giving a fuck.
I don't envy you, mate

>>136213143
Show me any evidence at all of supernatural phenomena existing and then we can assume that a supernatural being is possible

>>136213735
A scifi show called Dark Matter
The woman is a robot

>>136213778

>Stop projecting
What am I projecting? Literally doing what you did to me.

>Because supernatural phenomena have no basis in reality.

I can say the inverse and we'll be at this all night. I'll just use this though, explain miracles. People getting healed etc. I already have my video prepped lol

>>136203980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueNkbPFnB1M

we /stalemate general/ now

>>136213925

Miracles, people being healed. For all intensive purposes, truthfully i have seen people get healed, legs grow, people with broken knees get healed after prayer and laying hands on them. With 100% of me honestly i've seen this happen which is why i am an even more firm believer in Jesus Christ. Can you take me at face value for this? If not we can't continue this argument unless we talk in depth about miracles.

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>>136214370
At least it's not snarky or condescending

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Going to bed /sg/
>Stay /comfy/
>Keep shitposting
>Ignore the bad shills/redd*tards
Have a redpill on me!

>>136214807
>At least
pol post elections has really lowered the expectation

>>136214975
It was always shit, it's just much more shitter now

>>136214433
Occams razor

>>136215343

Elaborate dude, you're arguing for a naturalistic worldview

>>136215343

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hQAi0u5Rs0

>>136210654
It quite literally originated from philosophy tier shenanigans, specifically it stemmed from defining the exact nature of Christ: was he God? was eh not? If he was only God, could he really suffer for us on the cross? If his Godly and human nature were "fused" was he then less of a God? and so on and so on, with the bishops finally defining him as having two non-mixed natures in the same person. Then came even more questions: was he the same as the Father? then why did he pray to him for miracles/to ask if it was possible to avoid death, or spoke about him in the third person? an then going on even more. (Holy Spirit being defined as what was manifested in the prophets of OT or the apostles and saints/martyrs of the Christian church)
Finally all was wrapped in a complex theological/philosophical definition, that God is three distinct persons (so not different manifestations of the same person) made of the same substance (so that all parts of the trinity are equal level)
It's mostly a matter of faith for the common folk, as is righteous to be for something related to religion especially since here we're talking about the very nature of God and the way God worked during the history of the world
Anyway the idea of a Trinity is already present since relatively little time after the inception of Christianity, since it's already there in some gospels composed some 50/60 years after Jesus' death (long before the councils which fully defined its nature tho)

>>136213624
You have to answer my question, but you're too retarded to figure it out, so I'll just tell you.

Logic is the origin of your belief that observation is a necessity.

Therefore I can disprove your claim using superior logical arguments.

But instead, you spew irrelevant bullshit. EZ VICTORY right?

>>136213470
>three distinct entities
I never said God is three distinct entities. God is one entity.

>pretty much dropped from modern Psychology
Appeals to authority (including appeals to (((consensus))) and so on) are actually prohibited by 4chan's rules. Try another argument.

>>136214847
Uncontroversial redpill for /pol/ too! Thanks for the pic!

>>136217545
>>136217411
>>136217113
u still havent proven that god exists in a hard scientific and able to validate manner

>>136217411
one "entity" that consists of three separate and clearly defined entities,which we recognize as separate entities and yet you're trying to peddle them as one, and the amount of hairsplitting involved to try to handwave this away as "one" deity is just further showing me the bullshit of the trinity.
>appeal to authority
m8 you literally just appealed to an idea peddled by Sigmund Freud and whose validity rests upon his authority as a psychoanalyst. and I'm sorry to tell you but taking Freud as fact has been a gigantic meme for quite a while now. and his ideas are frankly bullshit on their own

>>136207918
that experiment is bullshit. there is not mathematical possibility for that

>>136220052
explain?
its a prett simple experiment just mimic the earth environment at the time and see the results
>there is not mathematical possibility for that
>mathematical possibility
?????

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Fuck off with your religious virgin debates.

I know nothing interesing is happening on /sg/ since there are no gainz, but Jesus this is I think new low, lurking almost since begining and can't remember this disfunctionality and diversion of topic.

Fuck off namefags, you are fucking ruining our community with your shity attention whoring... This is the result!

Mandatory:

It's time to expose namefagotry degeneracy to all unsuspecting anons falling into namefags trap of masturbating to attention!

Raise awarness and bully your local namefag, make him either delete name field or leave forever for his degeneracy has no place on sacred place of /sg/!!!!

>>136218926
God is one entity.

>authority as a psychoanalyst
You just claimed he has no authority as one though. Do you ever not contradict yourself, faggot?

>>136218139
>hard science
Prove that hard science exists. It doesn't. Observation is logically limited, and that will never change. Observation has always been, continues to be, and always will be -- until we rise again -- limited.

Therefore, Solipsism could be real. We both know Solipsism is total bull. But it could be, based on your "hard science" logic. Therefore, your very demand is flawed.

>>136218926
Look, basically the hairsplitting over what it exactly meant came afterwards, but the idea that there is a Trinity which at the same time is one God is already there in early gospels and the letters of the Apostles, so if one chooses to follow Christianity it would be just plain meaningless to deny the very idea of it or declare that it has nothing to do with Christianity.
As I said before, it is ultimately an act of faith, around which plenty of philosophical discussions arose (which were deemed were important at the time since "you pray to God while having having the slightest detail about his image and nature wrong in your mind, you'll still got o Hell" mentality was very alive) that gave us this definition kinda simple but kinda confusing at the same time we have today

>>136220371
Come on Serbro, this is one of the first times I've actually had fun with a serious derailment. :(

Plus, it's still within /pol/ territory. Often, they go into /tv/ and /b/ territory...I report many such posts!

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>>136209135
Fisherman crushed by a truck while trying to get his fisk.

>>136220478
well even if u just go by observation it still proves the point
there is no basic way to observe god and it appears we never will be able to
using occams razor this leads to the assumption god dosent exist to me at least

>>136220190
>pretty SIMPLE experiment just mimic the earth environment
that's the problem. It doesn't. The electricity itself would prevent the creation of these amino acids. The probability that those conditions would be given is mathematically too low. We are not even sure how that atmosphere was.

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>>136220663
>Come on Serbro, this is one of the first times I've actually had fun with a serious derailment. :(

Maybe it's me, but I have seen these debates thousend of times, many I was upset, angry etc... Now I realized all these "Religious debate" threads conclude in same way... Archiving and waste of everyones time. Nothing can come out of this and it's one of the most stupid topics to talk about, mainly because it follows same pattern everytime.

>Le edgy christian baits atheists
>Le fedora counters with another bait
>Le God can't be disproven lol
>Le God can't be proven
>Random pointles giberish to fill thread to 300
>Archiving with everyones time wasted.

In time you will understand.

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Thread so slow now.

But it's good that SAA is holding assolt to Deir Ezzor.

>>136221459
yeah it's been really quiet now
hope they are doing something we are not aware off

Currently just watchingsouth front stuff from other places in the world while waiting

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Who here hype for DeZ?

>>136220478
>god is one entity
that you admit yourself is made up of three separate entities, that we recognize as separate, yet somehow fuse into one in some mystical process not a soul has explained? yep, definitely retarded
>You just claimed he has no authority as one though. Do you ever not contradict yourself, faggot?
appealing to a discredited authority is still an appeal to authority mi amigo
>>136220630
good post, though I would argue it was a touch more ambiguous back in the day, especially with the popularity of Arianism.
t.b.h I know full well it's essentially a blind faith case, but the dixie poster has such retarded arguments for it I can't resist
>>136222171
I bet the Tigers will reach DeZ before the shitshow at Sukhnah is finished

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>>136222348

>>136207635
2 weeks

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>>136223626
8411 days.

so is there some books i can read to learn about the collectivist/anarchist/democratic-confederationist ideas of rojava?
i know the main political theorist stashed on that roach prison island wrote some manifestos but i cant find a translation
im open to new ideas id like to have a look at the societal/economic ideas at least just to get a honest look at the other side

>>136214254
This sounds like indian, is it paki?

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>>136203442
death to you and your family sandnigger

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>>136225335

>>136224818
There aren't any

>>136226401
thats a shame
i guess i will just have to wait till someone takes the time to translate some of Abdullah ocalans books

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>be me
>come to sg breaf
>everyone is debating about th begining of rexistnce

have a megumin

>>136226611
thats just how volatile this stuff is...
when someone like me who lacks faith meets someone with faith it tends to be quite explosive

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>>136226711
>it tends to be quite explosive

i hate puns but this is wel crqafted.

have another megumin.

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give me gains!

>>136224829
Pretty sure it's Iranian.

>>136226870
wew that was unintentional actually.....

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>>136227123
No. It's not.

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It seems history is repeating itself, on this day serbshit occupation of Knin was broken and today occupation on Sukhnah will be broken by glorious SAA

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wtf is going on here

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>>136206859
>There is literally no evidence that a creator doesn't exist.

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>SAA and allies took full control of Sunbul Gas Station & Advance is ongoing

Tactical garage liberated

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>>136228112
Gas station not garage

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Guys what the hell is going on in Sweida??

>>136227956
to be fair he IS right
it dosent make his arguement true though....

>>136228531
Didnt say he was wrong
but the bullshitter alarmbell goes off when someone switches around the burden of proof on you/asks you to prove a negative