>voting against your interests

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>expecting an intelligent response from a drumpf supporter

>>136167148
>implying I want to pay for some fat fuck's health care
>free health care = higher demand for health care = higher prices at tax payer's expense, lower quality, and longer waiting times

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>>136167148
>affordable
top kek
>tax cuts for billionaires
Tax cuts for everyone, sweetheart
>B-but I don't want to save money if it means THEY get to save money too!

>>136167693
Those tax cuts Gibs are mostly focused on the undeserved wealthy sweetie fuck face . The middle class would benefit from single payer

>>136167148
>muh trickle down economics

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>>136168047
Free your mind zombie.

>>136168047
>tax cuts
>Gibs
wow you really don't understand how this works do you?
>>136168124
Read Introduction to Economics, commie.

>>136167148
Look at how fat and unhealthy poor people are. They should be allowed to die.

>>136168124
Americans are incurable idiots anyways.

>>136167455
>free health care = higher demand for health care = higher prices at tax payer's expense, lower quality, and longer waiting times
The results in the rest of the world say otherwise.

>>136169878
I will never understand how poor people are so fucking fat and have $200+ phones, an Xbox One, a Flatscreen plasma 3d TV, but still don't have a car.

>>136169878
But fat aand unhealthy poor people is some of trumps most ardent supporters lmao

could've sworn ive seen this exact same thread multiple times with >>136167290 being the first post every single time

this is a bot thread

we are getting slid

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>>136167148
>white liberals
>voting to help minorities against their own interests

I know what you mean OP, it makes me sick when people don't do the selfish thing.

>>136167148
>ignoring that the billionaires employ you and pay 50% of the taxes

>>136170607
As consumer goods they are cheaper and you can get them in installments.

>>136170819

Good little sheeple right here, bow down to your billionaires put them on a pedstal

>>136167148
Affordable health care is impossible in U.S.
Patent monopolies and market price fixing ain't going to allow for it.
Direct Care seems to be where it's at.

>>136170607
They don't. That's largely a meme pushed by people who don't want to believe that they could end up like them. Poor people may have phones, but they buy them a lot less often, and they need them because everyone needs them for business now. Video games and fancy TVs definitely aren't that common among poor people. As far cars, cars are obviously a lot more expensive than any of those gadgets.

>>136170511
>Countries with free healthcare don't pay more taxes and they always get swift service.
You're the reason people say Americans are clueless retards that don't know anything about the rest of the world.
You hear "Free" healthcare and you think the doctors simply split the money the government has with all the politicians or some retarded shit.

>>136167148
This thread is stupid.

>>136169865
>believing tax cuts are a good thing
Read basic economics sweetie.

>>136170918
Not countering his factual points and following up with an insult?

Confirmed troll.

>>136170762
you're sick

>>136170819
So billionaires put us in wage slavery? Why not make it illegal to be a billionaire then?

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PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE RETHUGLICANS

>*absorbs mayonnaise*

>>136167148
We had this thread today already.

>>136171327
The dude said that billionaires employ us and pay 50% of the taxes, he was a 100% troll.

>>136171092
Strawman much? Obviously countries with universal healthcare pay via taxes.

>>136170626
Poor people vote overwhelmingly democrat, and most of the poor people that voted for Trump did so because he wants to keep their manufacturing jobs.

>>136171092
Bro countries with free healthcare pay the same taxes because they have less military. If they had less military and private healthcare much less tax. America is the lowest tax nation.

>>136167148
>We want affordable healthcare
>and we demand free healthcare for the tens of millions of illegals in America and worldwide

>Occupy Democrats.

>>136167148
daily "gay for brock" thread I see.
Uninspired. Why should hard working people pay for the healthcare of others that don't work and claim benefits?
It's redistribution of wealth, nothing more. Go remove a rib so you can suck yourself off you lonely puffter.

>>136167684
>Forget I love Wikileaks

Nothing wrong with loving Wikileaks pham

>>136171621
For the sake of collective benefit and self-interests. Society that helps those who are weak allows for more meritocracy and social mobility.

>>136170607
They steal them.

>>136167148
I don't mind fucking over billionaires, but the idea of helping even one illegal alien pisses me off to the point of wanting shit healthcare just to ensure they don't have it.

>>136169865
Tax cuts are a subsidy dipshit. It's upward wealth redistribution

>>136167148
The Affordable Care Act is about as affordable as the Patriot Act was patriotic and as healthy as "health food supplements" are. When are you niggas gonna learn that Jews like to put names on shit to sell it to you as gold?

>it's not my interest to become a billionaire and pay as little taxes as possible
???
Sorry you have such low ambitions, OP.

>>136167148
> I think the government can do healthcare right
> I don't understand percentages

Reminder to sage in all fields.

>let me tell you what your interests are

>>136171804
The weak can become strong, if they just put in the effort. They don't want to though. They want safety nets and rubber mats under their playground equipment.
One thing I learned from being in the Army is that walking around in combat boots with ankle support all day every day for 20 years left my ankles weak as shit.

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>>136167148
Its allways a tradeoff. Obamacare was never the focus for me.

>>136171461
>Claim something
>"That's not true, moron, in fact it's the opposite"
>"ST-STRAWMAN"
>>136171559
America is the world police Leaf, I know Justin likes to act big and tough but the moment a nation attacks him you think the UN will step in? Fuck no.

>>136171421
The numbers check out.

Maybe you're a troll. Or just a Canadian.

>>136172023
Would you say wealth redistrubtion is stealing?

Or only when it is taken from poor people.

>>136169732
Free your mind zombie.
>says the guy defending a system that takes the wealthiest nation on earth and renders 50% of its population living at or below the "poor" line
51% of full time wage-earners in 2015 made less than $30k
The same year, we poured $80B into fossil fuel "research and development"
The reason we pay twice as much for our healthcare as other modern nations is because Big Pharma has lobbied into law a provision which prohibits the US from negotiating drug prices with manufactures, and instituted a ban on importing the same drugs for cheaper prices from other countries.
The entire US population/politicians is cucked by corporations so that the supremely wealthy can remain that way and everybody else fights each other for crumbs.

>voting for more welfare state

>>136172970
first time ive ever heard somebody refer to america as the "world police" in a non-negative light
we are reaching new levels of retard in this fucking country

>voting for your own selfish interests over the good of the country

How to spot a nigger

>>136173474
Well to be honest I'm against using my countries resources to save everyone, and then when Russia annexes Crimea everyone and their mother SCREAMS for the U.S. to step in.

>>136168047
Why are they undeserved?

>>136173566
and these people call themselves "patriots"

>>136167684
He still accomplished some things in your meme. Update plox

>>136170511
What do the results say?

Stop replying to this b8

>>136167148
I have a really affordable 1976 Ford Pinto I'll sell you. 999 easy payments of $999 dollars. It's affordable because I say it is.

>>136171078
What denotes a fancy tv vs a regular flat screen?

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>>136167148
>democrats
>having whites interests

>>136167148
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/XZ78b5xW0liZYZV7Yp1cJQ/

>>136167148
>he thinks we're voting against our interests.
Makes sense that a leftie wouldn't understand long term planning

>>136167148
>democrats
>having whites interests

Are you legit fucking retarded?

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>>136173590
US infrastructure gets a grade of D
the middle class is collapsing
income inequality is worse in the US than it has been since the Gilded age
45k people die in america every year because they do not have access to antibiotics and other basic healthcare
11% of homeless population are veterans
life expectancy went down last year
stock market is inflating to pre-recession bubble levels
unemployed #s have gone down because people have accepted lower paying, monotonous service industry work instead of their career path
need I go on?

We need to fix our shit HERE IN THE USA first.
Trump told you he was going to end the wars
he told you he was going to spend money here at home to rebuild our cities and bridges
he told you he was going to make sure everbody had healthcare coverage

Feel like a chump yet? I know how you feel. I voted for Obama because I thought he was going to do the SAME EXACT THINGS.

>Its a big club and you ain't in it.

>>136167148
You're supposed to vote for your country's best interest, not your own you selfish fuck.

>>136170699
>typical drumpf supporter response
>call the person you disagree with a shill and a bot
>still no articulated response to OP.

>>136167148
don't tell me what you command to be good for me you fucking nigger

I am gonna fucking empty your brain onto the pavement you goddamned nigger

The problem isn't that we don't make enough money. The problem is that the Kike owned Federal Reserve has devalued our money down to nothing.

>>136167693
trump never said anything about cutting tax rates for middle class and below just the ones making 100k and above
apparently its because they pay the most tax and did more to the country than everyone poorer than them

Subversion commie tactics. Rules for radicals. etc.

>>136167148
>posting that thread again

>>136174372
The argument against universal healthcare in the US has been made so many times. You have seen the arguments and you made this thread anyways just for conflict. You're a faggot, friendo.

>>136167148
Implying ACA is affordable when it can't even pay for itself.


Jesus Christ, be a man and start taking care of your own damn self. You'll be much happier and you may even be able to land a girlfriend who doesn't fuck actual men on the side.

>Dude haha socialized healthcare works in small first world countries so it will work in the us!

Hate this lib meme

>>136174507
Are you retarded? Look at his tax plan. Just fucking look at it and stop being a retard.

>>136174125
the long term plan is making the rich richer and the poor work their asses off to make the rich richer?

go back to work and stop fucking around on the internet then dumbass.

>>136174814
*small first world countries that are mostly white
fixed

>>136167148
>affordable health care
>literally don't have health insurance with a full time job because it's way too expensive
>affordable health care

This is yet another issue forced down our throats. Class warfare. The United States is on the doorstep of total cuckitude.

>>136174853
How can someone have such a juvenile way of looking at the world? "muh rich are getting richer rich people are bad waaaaah". Nothing more fucking pathetic than that "argument".

>>136174924
Are there a lot of small first world countries that are any other race but white?

>>136174843
I've looked you fucking fake news retard nigger.
LITERALLY FUCKING NOTHING

He's making sure all the 1 percenters pay 2% income tax, the same level as the middle class and below. He's bankrupting the country and creating gaps in wealth

>>136167148
Shut-up. Don't you know it's really about freedom the American way and white power?

>>136167148
Health care is very affordable for people with jobs. But only jobless leeched vote democrat

>>136175110
2% in tax is still a shitload more than half the country pays, which is zero.

The poor need to pay their fair share.

>>136175110
>he's bankrupting the country
>coming from the faggot nigger who wants free healthcare, free school, free food, and UBI
Okay commie.

>>136175067
Go back to work and stop fantasizing about owning your own company lazy nigger
That if you have a fucking job in the first place fucking underage b& snotnosed highschool fucktard

>>136167455
America is a country of fat fucks?

>>136175081
Singapore?

>>136175335
The fuck are you going on about? I'm not the one complaining about the rich being rich. I'm content with my life while you aren't. Sort yourself out, nigger.

>>136175446
So is Canada.

Rich pay for Niggers to get their government free money check every February. More niglets they make the bigger the check they get for sucking at life.

>>136167148
>white males are the only net contributor in taxes in the US
>give everyone free shit on your dime
>people already living and making kids on your tax contribution, no thank you anywhere's just a fuck you.
voting against your interest.
riiiiight

Yeah, I don't get why people want healthcare to be expensive as fuck.

Right-wing shitheads often make little sense.

>>136167148
Rich people are usually CEOs
These CEOs use their money to fund their business
The more money they have the faster they can form new businesses, that means more employment

Is this explanation simple enough or is your little commie brain not able do unterstand this ?

those billionaires deserve tax cuts they work hard and do a lot of labor. now get pedro out of the country and put up the wall!

>MFW Tax bracket for the top 1% gets raised to 45% and loopholes closed so liberal heebs can't donate to democrats anymore.

>>136175688
Please take that flag off, commie.

>>136175626
Rarararacist!!!

>>136175688
Everyone wants affordable healthcare.

Maybe others just disagree with you on the best method to achieve that?

For example, a great healthcare plan before obamacare only cost me a couple hundred a month. I make quite a bit of money and so if healthcare were nationalized to a single payer system I would probably have much more than a couple hundred dollars deducted from my paycheck in order to receive government funded healthcare which would be subpar.

You sound like a lefty the way you insult people and are incapable of grasping other points of view.

>>136170511
Yes they so you fucking retard.
Was treated for epilepsy as a child by fuckwit NHS GP's and it was a nightmare, probably made things worse desu. And wait times were fucking horrendous. Its like waiting at the fucking dmv or irs in the states.
Moved to the US when i was 9, first doctor i saw was an epilepsy specialist, was seizure free within six months off meds by the time i was 11. Oh and my family didnt have a whole lot of money at the time so the doc gave a massive discount.
The american health system is far superior. I know from personal experience. Thank god i live in the states now

>>136176043
*yes they do

>>136175866

>Supporting the profits of kike doctors

You're a stooge.

>>136170511
>The results in the rest of the world say otherwise.

Like Canada? Where the wait times are long as fuck and it's a craps shoot whether or not you will get a good doctor since all the Canadian doctors left and the ones left over are raghead/chinks?

>>136175457
>highschool nigger content with his life because his parents bought him video games and never beat the shit outta him because theyre hillary supporting libshits
no fucking wonder
when you got a job stupid fuck lemme hear you slurp trump dick again
fucking LARPing shit spouting fuckass

>>136176043
there are private hospitals in the UK too dipshit and they treat patients better than the americans do
why are your parents too retarded to consider that?

>>136174853
Guess what faggot, people having more money isn't a bad thing. it's the fucking point of a corporation.
Oh no, rich people are making money, how goddamn horrible.

>>136174245
samefagging

just think its funny how you children bicker and whine amongst yourselves and nobody responds to the most substantive post in this thread

>>136167148

My employer gives me healthcare. They also pay my salary, and if they get a tax cut they could afford to pay me more. Stupid commie fuck.

>>136177906
You can get your free healthcare when we get free guns.

Health insurance premiums are going up by 81% in some States next year.

>>136170511
Britain is cucked you wait like 3 hours even if you get beheaded by a Muslim cus all the old cunts with a cold take up doctors times in A&E

>>136172054
Most of /pol/ is too focused on fitting in with the LARPers pretending to be CTR rather than trying to educate themselves on important matters.

>>136178286
>thinks the words "could" and "will" are the same thing.

Have fun getting buttfucked until retirement wagecuck.

>>136171559
False. Corporate taxes in Canada are in fact lower than in the USA. For now anyways. Plus all their Canadian employees get free healthcare.

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>>136174245
Funny that Amerilards on here are obsessed with praising the police and military both of which are paid by taxes but the moment you suggest taxes pay for healthcare they sperg out.

If you're against 'gommunist' healthcare then you should also be against the police, military, fire service, libraries, etc etc too or you're a massive hypocrite.

>>136173212
Americans like to be cucked by corporations.

OP is a fag.

>>136167148
>"Healthcare"

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>>136178446
you get free guns here in the US: be an army pig
or better yet
sign up at your local PD. they give plenty of psychologically damaged and/or mentally deficient individuals such as yourself guns every day. plus you get to shoot niggers with impunity

win-win for you right?

>>136175968
>a great healthcare plan before obamacare


What did it cover? The reason why Obamacare insurance is so high is because it standardized coverage, everyone buys the same coverage

It is utterly impossible for your insurance before Obamacare to be better than what it is now, coverage-wise.

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>>136179675
when public education was initiated here in the US it was grades 1 through 8.
time went on and society realized we need more schooling for our future leaders.
public school expanded to grades 1 through 10
time went on and society realized we need more schooling for our future leaders.
public school expanded from kindergarten through 12
time went on and society realized we need more schooling for our future leaders.
>SOCIALIST KEK! ITS IMPOSSIBLE FOR TAXPAYERS TO AFFORD TWO MORE YEARS OF SCHOOL! ITS **FAIRY DUST**

meanwhile
>pic related

>>136180245
this

the ACA put an end to "catastrophic coverage" plans which charged you low premiums but basically didnt cover anything except horrific accidents, not preventative care, no family doctors... my GFs pre ACA plan didnt even cover a gyno

>>136180454
That's explicitly wrong though. school has become a leftie indoctrination camp.

>>136179911
tax breaks are just money the government never received in the first place. I'm against them obviously for distorting the market, but its not like we would somehow be able to get that money if we tried

>>136180702
because the bible isnt taught in science class?
because some lessons are critical of the Confederacy during the civil war?
because there is no class on how to strip and clean your gun? (in texas, there is. also skeet shooting team. shit was SO cash)
because your far right ideology isnt preached by everyone?

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>>136180454
Hmm misleading graph

>>136180813
Eliminate loopholes

the only people who should get substantial tax breaks are those who can't afford to pay them.

I think a low corporate tax rate but a high personal income tax rate would be the best for business while also being able to balance budgets.

>>136180702
>>136181021
im not defending ALL public schools... there is SERIOUS shortcomings in the american education system.

>>136181086
total federal spending =/= discretionary spending

>>136181021
Nope, because your far left ideology is preached by everyone.

>>136181086
learn the difference between discretionary and non-discretionary spending.

generally speaking, discretionary spending can be more easily cut and shifted.

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>>136167148
>voting for free shit like a nigger to bankrupt your country

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>>136181268
Yes but your claim was that america wastes its money on its military when most of the budget goes to gibs for non whites

>>136181339
wanna know how many of my teachers have shown data revealing that single-payer healthcare is a more cost effective system, with greater average health outcomes? zero
wanna know how many of my teachers encouraged us to read the bible and pray every day? if im being conservative, 25%
public school, btw

>>136181514
Nothing spent on the military is a waste. Thats really what we should be spending it on.

-Military
-Roads
-Post Office
-Pay for Federal Employees

Everything else should be private or based on what the state wants

>>136180702
The point is about money being available for those things.

Why is it fine to have 'socialism' with paying for the military (biggest use of your money of all), the police, fire service, schools, infrastructure etc but healthcare is unacceptable to pay for?

>>136181514
so lets fuck over gibs for whites by cutting social spending? Your logic here is quite flawed.

America does waste its money on military, that's why it's called discretionary spending.

>>136181513
we're already bankrupt

>>136181339
catholic school mustve been good to you, huh? how was bible camp, Joseph?

>>136167148
>the country is over a trillion dollars in debt
>had to raise the debt ceiling a few years ago because it got so bad
>everyone keeps bitching about how the government doesn't give us more free shit

>>136181659
>Why is it fine to have 'socialism' with paying for the military (biggest use of your money of all), the police, fire service, schools, infrastructure etc but healthcare is unacceptable to pay for?

It isn't fine though.
To think otherwise would be hypocritical..

>>136167148

>leftists cannot comprehend someone voting for anything other than their own immediate economic interests

>>136167455
Exactly

>>136167148
>open borders
>in my interests

>>136181760
Nope just shitty public school. were I was put into detention for finishing all of my classwork before class.

>>136181694
The American dollar is based off of debt anyway. For every dollar we borrow, $1.06 is owed back. If we only borrowed that single dollar, how would we pay back that $.06 when all there exists is $1?

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>>136181640
>Nothing spent on the military is a waste.
holy shit i cant believe people like you can breathe, much less vote

>>136179675
Read the constitution faggot.

>>136181846
Plenty of people think otherwise, every election cycle everyone starts sperging out at the suggestion of taxes paying for healthcare. If you are being consistent with your beliefs then fair enough but I'm saying that it's considered an extreme position. I've yet to hear a politician in the GOP speak out about 'socialized police force and military must go' for example.

In fact that word is never actually applied to any of those other things. I wonder why! :^)

>>136182027
>it's bad to be strong
leftism in a nutshell

>>136181928
>votes for tax cuts

>>136182140
>fiscal conservative yet a rubber stamp for military spending

The definition of hypocrisy

>>136167148
>fuck billionaires that have endless greed
>let's bail them out, prevent entry of market of less costly competitors, subsidize them heavily in the foolhardy endeavor to force insurance down the throats of people that don't want it

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>>136182140
>what else could we possibly spend our money on?

see>>136173212
>>136174245

>>136176117
>supporting the government enforced profit of kike doctors

>>136182114
Which part exactly? Is there a part that says big pharma has a god given right to extort the public?

>>136167148
>voting democrat

>>136182282
>Think we want to spend tons of money on the militsry

>>136182282
"Fiscal conservatism" is a platitude, it means nothing in itself. I am no a miser, I just don't want the govenrment to spend money to keep you alive and healthy, because that's YOUR job.

Subsidizing weakness creates weakness.
Subsidizing strength creates strength.
If you find yourself in a position where you will die without massive investment by the state then you should probably die.

Both parties lower taxes on the rich. Jews control both parties. Almost all billionaires are Jews. I'd love to vote for the party that has the "gas the Jews" platform, but Ron Paul wasnt running this year.

>>136182334
I'd rather have bombs, thank you.
Guns>Butter

>>136182762
>If you find yourself in a position where you will die without massive investment by the state then you should probably die


By your logic, we die if the state doesn't massively invest into the military.

>>136173658
>Why are they undeserved?

b...because they make more money than me and i'm a jealous twat who wants punitive taxation

>>136182762
Should the gubment use your taxes to pay for all these other things? in this post>>136181659

>>136167455
>>136181929
>free health care = higher demand for health care

>posting about economic issues
>doesn't know what inelastic demand is

>>136182132
No, I believe in the opposite. Not paying for shit with taxes.

>>136183017
>expecting intelligent economic discussion from /pol/tards and trumplets

>>136182875
Not at all, as the state isn't investing money in you, when it funds the military.

>>136182405
>Is there a part that says big pharma has a god given right to extort the public?

Is there a part that says you HAVE to buy their products?

There is, however, a part that mandates the expenditure of public money on the military.

>>136183207
How does the state not invest in me when it protects / secures my freedoms with military force?

you're talking yourself into a hole here.

>>136171078

>poor
>needs phone for business

Good job retard, it's actually not a myth. I can't tell you how many broke dumbasses I know who have a shitty car, shitty apartment or live at home with mom, but went into debt having to have the latest $700 phone (don't worry goy, you can make (((payments))) for it), and "renting to own" televisions, appliances, gaming systems, and computers from places like rent a center and Aaron's. It happens every day, and it happens often.

>>136182923
Sorry, but the government doing things isn't "socialism, so I reject your premise from the beginning and further discussion along this line of argument is pointless.

>>136183286
>Get seriously ill
>You have a choice, goy!
>Buy the treatment or die

Wow what a choice

>>136167148
>Why can't you just agree with me that it's fine to steal from the rich? If all the poor people agreed we would have armed forces steal everything and give ut to us! You are so stupid for not wanting this!

>>136183352
Why is paying taxes for healthcare called 'socialist' then but paying taxes for those other things not?

>>136183388
You have a choice of who you go to, and what you do yes.

>>136167148

Is voting to prevent or voting to help the genocide of the white race most in the interest of a white man?

>>136183286
>a part that mandates the expenditure of public money on the military.

Does it specify how much exactly we are to spend on military?

Hell, with the way we use our military, I imagine our founding fathers would see the likeness of the king's military, with how we flex our might across the globe on weaker nations.

>>136167148
They think they're only going to take benefits from "lazy" people and "minorities."

>>136183498
>do I want to forfeit my house or my house and my car

wonderful choices shekelberg!

>>136167148
>we demand tax cuts for billionaires
>and everyone else too
>omg ur so stupid how could you think like this
Because I'm not a fucking freeloading waste of space. Billionaires need to pay their fair share of taxes, but the tax code right now is so stupid that ONLY billionaires can get loopholes not to pay. Flat rate for every citizen, no loopholes nothing else. That's what I want.

>>136176127
Why do you all lie about the Canadian healthcare system? My wife just saw a doctor within one hours of making an appointment for a painful skin blister. All free and antibiotics were $10.

Obamacare is affordable?
Just piss on my leg and tell me it's raining

>>136183297
It's not protecting/securing YOUR freedom, it is protecting/securing the freedom of the nation, which is a very different thing.

If you go backpacking in Syria and ISIS captures you, do you think the government will send a SEAL team after you to rescue you?
No, you will be on your own and you will die.

The government paying for your medical care is not the equivalent of the government funding the military, it is the equivalent of having the government send in the marines to defend you if you get mugged in Tijuana.

>>136183834
>My wife just saw a doctor within one hours of making an appointment for a painful skin blister. All free and antibiotics were $10.

Now try to get her an appointment for an actual health crisis. A fucking blister is nothing to treat, so they don't mind treating it. Numbnuts.

>>136183297
Most of our taxes go to making sure corporations don't have to pay their employees adequately. Live like kings but can't afford to pay their employees wages able of sustaining themselves without government hand outs. Doesn't matter though ultimately we will have basic income due to increased automation as naturally we become increasingly efficient tech wise.

>the more useful things we create the more useless people we create

>>136183493
because people are idiots.
I don't oppose government healthcare because it's socialism, I oppose it because it's the destructive policy of a self-indulgent nation in decline.

>>136167693
>Amazed by dollar amounts
>Doesn't understand percentages

You people are fucked

>>136183929
If I go to Syria and get shot in the leg, Obamacare isn't going to help me there.

Is not the security / freedom of the nation my own freedom and security due to me being a citizen of that nation?

You are now making absolutely zero sense.

Keeping out as many shitskins as possible is in my best interests.
Only jewish corporations want to let in third worlders for cheap labor

>>136170607
Because the financial institutions mail them the ability to acquire debt at an alarming rate. Our economy would collapse if it weren't for the concept of sales based on debt.

>>136170819
>50 percent
Whered you get that number cuck? Your sugar daddy?

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>>136171327
>50 percent
weeew

>>136172266
>Comparing time in service to contemporary socio-economic problems

Use your GI Bill comrade holy shit

>>136184249
>If I go to Syria and get shot in the leg, Obamacare isn't going to help me there.
It would if you were airlifted to America for treament. The military on the other hand isn't obligated to defend you the individual on American soil either. Let's imagine for a moment that the impossible happens and America is invaded by Red Dawn Soviets from another dimension.

Do you think the army will send out a platoon to defend your cuck-shed from the advancing Red army?

>Is not the security / freedom of the nation my own freedom and security due to me being a citizen of that nation?
No. Just like the police aren't expected to be your personal bodyguards and protect you form all crime.

>You are now making absolutely zero sense.
I believe the problem is purely on your end of the internet.

>>136172994
No sauce, who's paying you to be here and propagate tax cuts for the wealthy I wonder?

>>136167148
Is the way to make things more affordable to give them away to everyone and make working people pay for it? Fuck off kike.

>>136173371
>without credit cards/debt muh capitalist system would crumble

>>136183834
And now that your visit is finished, I hope you enjoy paying for everyone else to go to the doctor.

>>136173566
>not realizing that if society goes to shit life will suck

>>136185202
Police are law enforcement, they enforce the law. The law does not oblige them to protect me. Your analogy here, like every analogy you've concocted, not only makes no sense, but has no relevance to your point. You have to resort to such fantastical settings in order for your point to be proven and by this point, you're just talking in circles, making no sense.

>>136173658
Buying fancy shit is more important than paying employees without having government subsidies from taxes

>>136183946
I don't care Americans bullshitting it's when a Canadian complaint that upsets me because they know it works well.

And yes they'll see you and refer you to a specialist if there's a need to. If it's not urgent yes it might take a few weeks to a few months but if it's serious or might require tests, there is little waiting.

>>136185347
>we need more people reliant on the govt.

>>136185533
Ever talked to the police?

They don't really know the law. Any non-violent offenses are actually up to you to sue the other individual in civil court if you want justice, and that can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in long drawn out court battles.

>>136167148
The "Affordable" Health Care is Affordable like the "Patriot" Act is Patriotic.

OP is a faggot that believes the title of Acts passed by his congress.
Liberal's mines.

Americans should pass a bill called Refugees Welcome Act, in it is the declaration of war on Islam.

>>136174125
Thinking genocidal? The odds are not in favor of that dumb dumb

>>136185788
Actually the odds are in fact in favor of it. the odds are what state it is happening.

>>136174501
Yeah it's just the jews keep blaming the jews that is logical

>>136167148
White people want less browns, which is in their interest.

>>136185973
Will you atleast concede that Jews are rich and powerful?

>>136174747
>Only listens to right wingers stringing together bullshit debunked by country with better systems

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>>136185786
you need to lurk more. These boards are filled with paid shills to push a narrative, sage and move on

>>136185533
I'm sorry anon, further conversation with you is pointless, as you are unable to grasp concepts even when they are explained to you in the manner befitting a child.

I will grant you one last response though.
>Police are law enforcement, they enforce the law. The law does not oblige them to protect me.
Yes, that is my point. Now apply that to the military and perhaps the malfunctioning neurons in your head will finally make the connection that's right in front of you.

Government healthcare is a duty to you, the individual.
The services of the military and the police on the other hand are not.

>>136186226
The military doesn't exist to protect you though. it exists to protect the nation.

>>136175034
It's a step in the right direction however the industries tainted it

>>136167148
but we voted the dems out ???

>>136167148
Funny how i could afford healthcare before obamacare and now i cant afford it because its 500 a month and its also shit insurance. Lazy americans are the problem, we need to send you mother fuckers to africa with the niggers.

>>136186226
And the purpose of law is supposed to be for the benefit of society, aka 'law and order'. How can you disconnect the concept of law from the fact that it's meant to shape society (society being made up of the citizens of the nation).

>>136175212
False, I have work based health care but I recognize how fucked it is that our current system fucks the sick in the ass while people complain that the rich need gold toilets cuz they work hard

>Implying healthcare wasn't already afforable
>Implying I didn't get health care from my employer
The only people who government healthcare benifits are NEETs and niggers. Which are you?

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Why do people think that government incompetence will run a good healthcare system when everything else they run is ineffecient and poorly designed?

>>136178286
Yeah but they probably wont, in fact they will probably invest that money else where to increase their earnings much like what has been seen in the past, it's been going steady since the 70s and you'll believe people being lazy increased poverty and inequality

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>>136174245
Things are happening dude. NAFTA's repeal is not insignificant and it's pretty clear that there's actually a discussion to be had regarding some protectionism.

>>136186601
They work hard and smart.

Which one of those are you lacking?

Obamacare was never affordable. It amounted, through the mandate, to a massive tax increase on the working class. Senator CancerBrain rolls in this money as the shitpig he is. This is why the Republican Party sabotaged any reforms.
The DNC is the Good Cop.

>>136167148
>Occupy Democracy

Ignored

>>136186196
Can i get a quick rundown on the top left?

>>136183946
>being this misinformed

>>136185718
>We need more people reliant on credit and financial institutions


Proven to be crisis prone
IE every single economic crisis, taking out loans does no good dumb dumb

>>136185968
1/50
Yeah that'll go over well good luck you should refocus all that questionable agression towards actual oppressive entities

Moron Labia my friend

>>136186142
Yeah all the jews are lizard people and in charge of the world

>>136167148

>not realizing the noble man votes for the interests of the Republic, not the interests of himself

"Socialists" everyone.

>>136189370
1 in 50 people with a population of sever hundred million. yeah the odds are definitely not in my favour.

>>136187390
Capital and network inheritance, I mean I have that but not at the level we are discussing

>>136189597
Wat


No shit you're a fringe minority of violence craving white folk looking for someone to blame for your own failures. Good luck with the insurgency bud

>>136167148
>Only caring about yourself

you guys are about to bumb a thread to 300+ from a bot that posted something this retarded:
>>136172023

>>136189597
Your angst is the result of your stupid family members eating corporate based think tank propaganda telling you to vote for sugar daddy industry cuz it'll trickle off their nutsacks and u can buy a Hemi

>>136189597
No. No maybe your right its the minorities and workers movements who are to blame.

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>>136170626
>poor

Um no sweetie

Mass immigrantion is not in my interests.
Remember to sage the bait, retards.

>Affordable healthcare

Anyone who believes this still gets their insurance through their parents.

>>136167148
>affordable health care
Trump supporters have jobs that provide healthcare, so they don't want to be taxed to pay for Obamacare.
>tax cuts for billionaires
There are billionaires who create jobs, technology, and the things we need to keep civilization running. Taxing them because they are not you is stupid.

>>136190223
>>136190068
>>136189831
>ALL this projection.
Do you wanna talk about it man?

>>136182875
The military is the arm of the state which is supposed to work for us..

>>136190454
I don't advocate for any of that and it doesn't define my situation, race war now folks are a prime example of our country thinking mental health isnt a thing

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Three K's a day keeps the niggers away!

If you're of 100% European descent aka white and you hate filthy niggers, dirty spics, ugly kikes, arabs, furfags, gayfags, commiefags and all other scum on the earth (including weeaboo degeneracy!) as much as we do, you should join the Moon Central Discord Server! Introduce yourself in #introductions to get unkiked!

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1, 2, 3, 4 We declare a race war!
Join us and hang a nigger today!

Sieg Heil

>>136189937

This

>Umm, anon, we said we're going to KILL THE RICH AND GIVE THEIR MONEY TO YOU? WHY ARE YOU VOTING AGAINST YOUR OWN INTERESTS??? RETARD!

Made me seriously contemplate.

U GUISE HAVE CONVINCED ME, I'M WITH HURRR NOW

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>>136167148
SAGE
SHILL