Before I start discussing my argument, I need to say that I am a gun loving American. Born and raised in a Republican family, I cherish the 2nd Amendment. Even though I love that the 2A grants me the privilege to own all the firearms I have, I am not arrogant enough to say that the 2A is perfect, because it isn't. It's about time that we made some common sense changes to it, because it is 2017 and not the 1700s anymore. The changes I want to make are reasonable and do not infringe upon our right to own and bear firearms.
Change #1 - Complete and total ban on assault weapons. I have owned firearms for over 3 decades, and never once have I owned an assault weapon because no one needs one. My pistols and long guns are more than enough for self defence, hunting, and militia purposes. The only people who use assault weapons are those who commit mass shootings. We could eliminate our immense gun problem by banning all assault weapons.
Change #2 - Restrict clip sizes to a maximum of 10 bullets. No one needs more than 10 bullets loaded into their gun at one time. Really think about it. One well placed shot is all it takes to kill an animal or human being. Why do people need 30 bullet clips? The only people who use them are mass shooters looking to cause a large amount of bloodshed. This would be very helpful in eliminating our gun problem.
Change #3 - Mandatory extreme vetting for all those wanting to purchase a firearm. I'm talking about extensive background checks, mental health and IQ testing, etc. This way only the most competent, and law abiding citizens would be able to own guns. This would also help to eliminate our countries gun problem.
All these changes are really geared towards solving the huge gun problem that our country faces. I feel that they are very realistic and would not infringe on the 2nd Amendment which I love very much.
tl;dr. the 2nd amendment is fine. fuck off and kys asap if you don't like it, bitch retard. sage. no bump. shit thread.
The only problem is people like you
This is Canadian copy pasta.
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>>136149076
I'm a born and raised red blooded Texan...
>>136148755
No. The purpose of the second amendment is to prepare the population for invasion or incase the government getting out of line. There's no need for change since explosive weapons are already banned.
>>136148755
Stay fucking pozzed my shill.
>>136148755
S H A L L
>>136149120
>how to fix second amendment
A citizen's right to own weaponry shall not be infringed.
>>136148755
>common sense changes
Stopped right there/ OP is a LARPer and a faggot.
Saged.
>>136149701
>Lmao the Brits have cannons and frigates and forts what's your puny musket gonna do
go away
>>136148755
Similar background as yourself. Had similar views as yourself at one time. There are no "good guys". Meaning, who determines who is sane or not? Who determines what's for sport vs. war? The reality is, America is one of the few places on Earth where the citizens are allowed to own and protect themselves with the great equalizer. We can't give that right away, period.
>>136149701
>implying 100% of the military would support a fascist government attempting to suppress the population
Hell, the military would probably be the first ones to rebel.
>>136148755
You are a shill annnnnd sage.
>>136148755
>>136148755
Hey leaf, same copy pasta huh? Fuck off
>>136149888
Did the brits have weapons that could destroy entire cities with the push of one button?
>>136150116
Doubt it. US soldiers are some of the most loyal, well trained, and disciplined soldiers on the planet.
>>136150371
So you decided to show your true leafy colors finally
>>136148755
>Before I start discussing my argument, I need to say that I am a gun loving American.
No you're not, you're a Canadian.
>>136148755
>Before I start discussing my argument
Take a handful of Oxys and wash it down with a bottle of Drano you fucking fag
>>136150853
Stop bumping this retarded thread, fagoo.
If you don't know how, just don't post. Everyone can see he's a retarded leaf.
>>136148755
>Why do people need 30 bullet clips?
Niggers group in packs of 30.
>>136148755
You might at least get some different discredited bullshit to put in your OP
>>136148755
>30 bullet clips
nice gay thread you fucking leaf
SAGE
>>136148755
it's magazine not clip you retard. clips are just a way to file the bullets into the magazine.
an assault weapon is a made up term that includes semi-automatic firearms with a detachable magazine and a pistol grip,
So most of your pistols would fall under that. So all you have is long guns.
also SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Sage this shit
2A doesn't "grant me a privilege;" it acknowledges an inalienable right.
Change 1: won't improve muder rate. Vast majority homicides with gun are handguns.
Change2: 30 rounds is standard capacity. Also, point above re: handguns.
Change 3: apply the same logic to th rest of the bill of rights. Mental health screening and extreme vetting before you have right to free speech, free from warrantless searches and seizures, and presumption of innocence? Gay.
Sage
Fucking faggot Canadian why dont you take that flag off
>clips
>>136148755
Define assault weapon.
Also, I'm completely okay with banning 30 round clips, because they don't exist and never should.
>>136148755
Show you flag leaf you've posted this thread ten times. You're worse than the roach.
>>136149888
obviously our muskets did a lot or else we wouldn't have America
would just be another cucked extension of england like australia and canada
>>136152007
We're proud of it friend
>>136148755
>The only people who use assault weapons are those who commit mass shootings.
As far as I know, no mass shootings have been committed by anybody with a legal fully automatic weapon. Since the legal definition of an assault weapon includes being fully automatic, you statement is false - or those weapons were illegally obtained, in which case said illegality should be tackeled.
>No one needs more than 10 bullets loaded into their gun at one time
The US army needs, on average, several million bullets to incapacitate an enemy combatant. Limiting ammunition capacity would therefore severely incapacitate your ability to use your weapons in a militia role.
>Mandatory extreme vetting for all those wanting to purchase a firearm.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
>>136148755
lol this thread is 100% bait
>>136152128
>clip
Oh look someone who's never fired a gun lecturing about gun control. Go back to plebbit.
>>136148755
>this thread again
Poor bait
SHALL NOT
>>136149888
Trips of truth
>>136148755
This shit again? Food for thought, most of my guns are unregistered faggot.
>>136149701
Protip: you can still shoot a drone operator. Especially when they're off duty.
>>136150371
>Did the brits have weapons that could destroy entire cities with the push of one button?
Does the US government have the possibility to destroy it's own cities during civil war?
>US soldiers are some of the most loyal, well trained, and disciplined soldiers on the planet.
Even the most loyal falter in a civil war. That's the basic definition of civil war.
>>136152391
>Didn't read OPs post
>OR
>Magazine == clip
Ask me how I know you're a nigger
>>136148755
>the only people who use assault weapons are using them in mass shootings
Explains why AR platforms are the single most popular type of rifle in the US. Of course they're all being used in mass shootings. Right guys?
>>136148755
Go kill yourself, fucking jew, trick your fellow brainwashed leftards
>>136149116
Sure fucking thing you are, fucking jew, now show your real flag
When will we ban trucks
Swimming pools
Sports cars (only racecar drivers need racecars)
Fast food
Cigarettes, matches,lighters
Drugs
Alcohol
Recreational boating
Lead in the water supply and pollution
Ownership of dogs
Until all these things that kill more than guns are banned you know the Jews motivation isn't saving lives its disarming you.
>>136152909
>>136149701
He did and of course he's a leaf. He makes this thread every day.
>>136148882
Additionally fuck the nfa and fuck all state laws that infringe on the 2ed as they are not covered by the 10th. Oh and OP can dialiate themself with a cactus
>>136149116
Bait and gay
>>136148755
Sage
>>136148755
sage
>>136148755
This is literally a copy and paste from Shareblue.
>>136148755
Quit posting this same copy pasta nonsense.
Saged, kys
>>136150371
I am sure the Roman Senate thought that pre Ceaser
>>136148755
>Fixing the Second Amendment
Easy. 1: ban all handguns/short-barelled weapons, because handguns' only purposes are killing deserters and robbing banks, they are completely useless for real land combat scenarios.
2: no open carry bullshit, you keep rifles in safe and only get them out when you go hunting with proper license or go to shooting range.
Thus actual concerned citizens can still own firearms and train for repelling enemy invasion (the skill which will be completely useless cause modern wars are won by combat planes and artillery), and there won't be bloodshed on streets. And you still have that shotgun in your bedroom if you insist on living in cardboard wall house instead of building proper brick one and installing steel doors.
a - fake
b - gay
c - SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>136152764
Except clip does not equal magazine.
>>136148755
No.... more no.... no again.... and can you sense it..... can you feel the disturbance NO U FUCKWIT SAGE
Sage. What an anti-gun shitlib fucktard.
>>136153664
You fucking retard Ivan. If I can't carry a pistol how am I supposed to defend my self from niggers when I go into the city? Have you ever even been to America?
>>136148882
FPBP
>>136154060
Just stay in your village
>I need to say that I am a gun loving American. Born and raised in a Republican family
prove it
>because it is 2017 and not the 1700s anymore
Not an argument
>do not infringe upon our right to own and bear firearms.
Of course it does, explain the of the "do not"
>Change #1 - Complete and total ban on assault weapons. I have owned firearms for over 3 decades, and never once have I owned an assault weapon because no one needs one. My pistols and long guns are more than enough for self defence, hunting, and militia purposes. The only people who use assault weapons are those who commit mass shootings. We could eliminate our immense gun problem by banning all assault weapons.
a) anecdotal
b) slippery slope
c) gun problem derivates from the problem of crazy people killing, if it's not with gun it could be with bombs, knifes, poison, TRUCKS
>Change #2 - Restrict clip sizes to a maximum of 10 bullets. No one needs more than 10 bullets loaded into their gun at one time. Really think about it. One well placed shot is all it takes to kill an animal or human being. Why do people need 30 bullet clips? The only people who use them are mass shooters looking to cause a large amount of bloodshed. This would be very helpful in eliminating our gun problem.
That's something you have to enforce on manufacturers, because people who don't follow the law will still reach them, try that without tresspassing rights of the selling and production parts
>Change #3 - Mandatory extreme vetting for all those wanting to purchase a firearm. I'm talking about extensive background checks, mental health and IQ testing, etc. This way only the most competent, and law abiding citizens would be able to own guns. This would also help to eliminate our countries gun problem.
a) you do your retarded, extensive time and resource consuming background check for a1) the one who passes just commits a mass shooting days after the purchase and a2) non-law abiding citizens get guns anyway
>>136148755
Reminder that all gunban shills sound like this
Fuck off kike
>>136154244
Nice Argument and btw liberals are bringing niggers into my "village" now too.
>>136148755
Claims to love guns and have lifelong knowledge of guns.
Doesn't understand the subjective nature of the term "assault weapon".
Calls magazines "clips".
Calls for more background checks when it's a proven fact that background checks do jack shit.
It's b8 m8.
>>136148755
>>136153787
So you can't even understand what I'm saying. Confirmed nigger. Enjoy not being able to fill out a 4473.
>>136148755
>retarded nigger leftist believes mass shooters use "assault weapons", when in reality the majority of them use handguns
Reminder to remove yourself from the gene pool. Allowing anyone to chip away at your rights makes you a literal subhuman, who deserves nothing.
To change the 2nd Amendment would require an additional constitutional amendment, which would have to pass Congress and be ratified by two thirds of the States. Without such changes, the proposals you mention are unconstitutional, unless activist courts rule otherwise.
The legal barriers aside, the 2nd Amendment exists for a good reason. You might say "well we can't fight the US Army, with its tanks, jets, and nukes.". The truth is, government exists at all levels, and can be equally as oppressive and just as likely to violate your rights.
One example of this is, during the Civil War, when residents of Jones County, Mississippi, rebelled against the Confederate army, which was plundering their crops and food supplies to supply their army. If they had not had the right to protect themselves under the previous Union government, wouldn't they have been less well-equipped to fight?
There is a more recent example of a town in Tennessee in 1946, in which an election for the town's sheriff was rigged by one of the candidates. The town's residents, most of which were veterans of the recently-ended World War 2, took up arms and deposed the illegitimate sheriff, before holding a new election to select a new sheriff. Again, their right to bear arms against a corrupt government was necessary to safeguard their liberties.
Overall, it's better to leave the 2nd Amendment as it is. While mass shootings and other such horrific events are tragic and regrettable, they do not justify destroying a fundamental barrier against tyranny.
>>136155428
Call of Duty terms =/= real life terms.
>>136148755
No?! YOU SAY 'NO' TO MY AR-15, YOU FUCKIN' PRICK! YOU AIN'T GONNA ABLE TO SAY 'NO' TO ME WHEN I GET TO YOUR HOUSE, YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!
>>136148755
>before I start let me tell how much I love guns
>right, now let's completely ban guns
>but guys I love guns
>clips
>seriously guns are cool
>they won't be illegal Just impossible to get
2/10 because my jimmies did get a little rustled
>>136148755
>Even though I love that the 2A grants me the privilege to own all the firearms I have
>right to own
Fixed it for you
Also fuck off faggot.
>clip
>bullets
>>136156123
4473 is a COD term now?
>>136148755
>gun loving american from republican family
>CLIP size
>10 BULLETS
epic bait, retard
the 2nd amendment should be anything the military has, civilians can have, end of story
>>136148755
>he doesn't own a modified Henry 1860 Lever Action gun that accepts mags
fucking PLEB tier. Damned thing can do just about anything.
>>136148755
Nothing to be fixed nigger
>>136148755
Nice copy pasta Leaf
>clip
CLIP? YOU FUCKING LARPER
>>136148755
At least this faggot has realized having his Canadian flag was fucking up his shilling. He's evolving. Unfortunately he's still a faggot and everyone here is laughing at you who isn't also a faggot.
Sage and hide.
>>136148755
No, faggot. I told you yesterday the only negotiation you get is "No!" You can thank the anti-tobacco lobby for that response, it's 100% on them.
now gtfo you seditious commie sympathizer.