/ag/-Anarchism general

>>136148045
autistic manchild general

>>136148268
not nice friend

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>>136148045
I truly wish, but other, more organized and quick action (ordered by hierarchy of chain of command) will always blast others in the ass with their mass produced weaponry. Utter rape, pillage and plunder. Especially now, with weapons getting even more advanced, we'll all be held hostage or culled one day via the ultimate weapon, weaponized nanotech. When that is proliferated, the first one that did, will be God among insects.

>>136148045
Being your ideas more to the centre and then we can talk.
And I'm serious here - read "on the road" then come back.
Anarchy is too romantic to work anon, some people are ok but a lot of dicks will spoil it.

>Anarchism
>Posts the most impossible oxymoron version of anarchism flag
>B-B-BUT WE WILL ALL VOLUNTARY ABANDON OUR PRIVATE PROPERTY AND I SWER IT WILL BE VOLUNTARY AND THERE WILL BE NO STATE INVOLVED IT'S JUST LIKE RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE GUYS XDDDDD

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>>136150537
>anarcho-communism is an oxymoron
>anarcho-capitalism that believes in capitalism isnt
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

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>When you're in a bubble so hilariously disconnected from reality you actually begin thinking that people will refrain from making capitalist transactions in the absence of a draconian authoritarian government who will send them to a gulag for doing so

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>>136150891
>Anarchism, the idea of no state
>Communism, the idea of the absolute power of the state
>Ancommies literally believe they aren't mentally ill

>>136151136
You stupid fuckin ancap, the end goal of communism is anarchy. Its literally what Marx said. The ideology of anarchism stems from communism itself, ironically capitalism stems from Jews.

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>>136151466
>Its literally what Marx said

>>136148045
bump for interest

>>136151581
Yeh if you weren't such an unread swine (which is why you're an anarchist in the first place) you would know what Communism actually is.

>>136151136
Communism is stateless...at least by most definitions

>>136151076
>implying Ancona would allow voluntary capitalist transactions to occur in an ancom area/society

Are you fucking retarded?

>>136151982

And what exactly would ancona do?
Arrest them? Send them to jail? Fine them?
Are you aware there's no way to actually enforce laws in an Anarchist society?
Are you aware the whole edgyness of Anarchism is because FUCK THE SYSTEM LOL (read: fuck laws)?

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>>136151982
>Communism is stateless
Right, people give up their private property VOLUNTARILY (as there is no state to force them), and said property from that point on belongs to nobody, because there is no state in communism!

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Both anarchies are "real" anarchy. Anarchy literally means "no rulers". LEFT-anarchism also includes "no hierarchies", and it was the original anarchy that existed far before Rothbard et. all showed up, but it's not the only anarchy. Words are defined by their use. Stop throwing autism fits over semantics.

>>136151136
>Communism, the idea of the absolute power of the state
No.

>>136152218
According to ancoms, pic related. Obviously this is fucking retarded but that's the best they've got.
>Are you aware there's no way to actually enforce laws in an Anarchist society?
That's not true.

>>136152218
>anarchism means no rules
Aaaaaa......no?
If u read even the most basic anarchist literature you would understand this
Are you telling me that the CNT-FAI didn't have a fully functioning police force prison and work camp system? And yes companies run under capitalist methods were banned in Catalonia and Aragon

>>136152383
*al
lol

>>136152268
To play devil's advocate, in anarcho-communism the state is removed after capitalism is abolished. Read your opposing side's literature and theory to understand them at least a little.

I like how this thread is ancaps arguing amongst themselves

>>136150537
>>Posts the most impossible oxymoron version of anarchism flag

>literally the symbol of anarchist movement alongside with A symbol since its foundation
>lel itz ogzimoran xD

I mean, I'm not an anarchist or communist but come on.

>>136152549
See this is the fucking joke with anarchist they always have to resort to tolalitarian methods to maintain their rule and "ideology".

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>>136152824
Of course, in your side, which is the better side, everybody always agrees with each other and there is no debate or discussion. You guys don't argue amongst yourselves like chumps; istead you share le epic memes! le seize the MEMES of production xDDD!

For an example of this success of the left side, see the epic meme-sharing board /leftypol/.

>>136152978
Anarchists think that their communes will be voluntary, and that no one will not want to be in a commune because the means of production have already been seized. This doesn't work out to well in practice.

>>136152978
>organizing a police force jail and camp system Along with making sure people don't undermine THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE REVOLUTION is totalitarian
Literally what? Under that logic most of the world is totalitarian

The mental gymnastic required to transform "no archon" to anarchy in the way communists understand it is absolutely astounding, even for communism standards.

If you believe being an anarchist in ancient greece was against private ownership of the means of production and voluntary or against people having some kind of social order you're fucking retarded.

>>136152593
Even then, the structure formed once the state is "removed" is a parliamentary democracy, which is pretty much a state.

People really have to be naive if they believe there's not going to be election of representatives once people realize you cannot get anything done if you have to consult every single move.

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>>136153337
Ah, yes. All for the glory of the revolution! All force is justified for the immortal spirit of the revolution!

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>we should have a voluntary anarchist society
>okay lets implement a satanic draconian communist genocidal government first
>???

what. this thread reminds me of when i posted on leddit.

>>136153337
>i organize a hirearchy and imprisonment in an anarchist society

Do you realize how hypocritically fucking retarded you are?

It's time to unleash all of my memes

>>136153595
They always sneak in ideas about direct-democracy or councils after the state is "abolished". Aren't those hierarchies themselves? Why would I want to be ruled over by the tyranny of the majority?

>>136153337
What the fuck? Didn't you guys hate jails? What about positive rehabilitation? Aren't jails a hierarchy of the imprisoned to the unimprisoned?

>>136154083
Are you actually retarded, ancom is not socialism.

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BESTEST ALLY, HAHA HOLY SHIT FUCKING DYING OVER HERE

>>136154042
Thanks merchant, you're truly our greatest ally.

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We are ready to bash the fash in Charlottesville, comrades

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Now it's time for something other than memeballs

>>136151466

>Marx
>Literal Jew

>all of the europeans who got capitalism going

>>136148045
*farts* nigger *farts*

>>136155197
>greatest ally
>flag
hmmm

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>>136155197
I've been gathering those for months just to have this moment

>>136155958
From what I hear on /pol/, communism is inherently Jewish, what is going on?