Michelle Carter

>>136126995
Cuck, if that was your brother or friend you'd be calling for this pshyco bitch to be locked up. Frankly 3 years is not enough, 10 Minimum, ruin this girls life! IT'S TRENDY AND LIBERAAAAAL YASSSSS

>>136127116
I don't have weak willed spineless cucks in my family or friend circle.
Suicide is the coward's way out.

>>136126995
>gaslighting is free speech
Feels helter skelter man

>>136126995

She was an accessory to suicide. Convincing someone to kill themselves isn't far from murder. She deserves prison.

>>136127239
cuck. you are a cuck.

>>136127194
is that a bad thing?

>>136126995
Why are you such a pussy OP? Why give her publicity? It's over man, move on with your life. Don't you have anything else in your life?

>>136126995
She got 15 months in jail, and 5 years probation for convincing someone to kill themselves. Fuck that bitch

>>136127313
Wanna know how I know you are underaged?

>>136126995
It's not about free speech though, she knew his life was in danger, could of stopped it, decided not to, and had the intent for him to die. I'm not in favour of a harsh sentence because it's not quite murder nor manslaughter, more so reckless neglect or something, but she's guilty of something beyond speech.

>>136127351
It's not over though.
She is appealing the case, and rightfully so.

I don't give a shit about her personally, but I don't want my life ruined because I told some faggot "kys" and then the stupid retard actually did it.

>>136126995
Bullycide is not a crime

>>136127185
all the texts between them show how she pressured him to kill himself, even planning it out.
that day, he was doing it but he stepped out of the vehicle out of regret.
she told him to get his ass back inside and die already.
Then she tweeted about missing him aka used his death for attention

No one knew about the texts until all that stuff was revealed.

>>136126995
This was so yesterday familang. She did the right thing and you're allowed to post another thread of her next year when her lawyers removes her jail sentence for her.

> lol kill urself hahaha

This is now illegal in America. I can get arrested for this.

Fuck the pussy MRA's ITT. That guy was a weakling and this deformed-looking lady is kinda cute and I'd smash so let her off.

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>>136126995
This case has nothing to do with fucking free speech you dumb fuck. literally kys.

>>136127481
Look, she's a bitch. I don't see how you can defend her being a bitch unless you are the same kind of asshole. In which case you will never understand what she did wrong and you both deserve to rot.

>>136127703
>>>136127481(You)
>Look, she's a bitch. I don't see how you can defend her being a bitch
I'm not.
I'm defending her right to tell a faggot to kill himself.
If the gender roles were switched, /pol/ would be all over this, but you people are so brainwashed by alt-right e-celebs that you can't see what is actually happening here.

>>136127515
I'm not disputing anything you said, but you can't imprison someone for being a bad person.

And that is literally what this case is about now.

You are letting your emotions get in the way of sane judgement.

>>136126995
Will you stop making this fucking thread holy shit

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I'll just leave this here, don't let history repeat itself.

>>136127929
Did you even read the text transcripts?
She didn't just tell him to kill himself.
She walked him through the process and made him do it when there was no way he would have without her involvement.

It was murder.

>>136127929
No, it actually seems like you are in puppy love. It doesn't allow you to what she did was wrong. It's true people tell others to kill themselves everyday. But in this situation the man had mental problems. Why else would he want to kill himself? Also she told him to get back in the car. He made one last cry for help and the bitch told him to get back in. Maybe it's not illegal but people like that must be punished. I'm sorry that you are too in love to see that.

>>136126995
>You can either stick to your childish hatred of all things woman, or you can stand up for the ultimate example of free speech.
Yes. This is quite the predicament.

>>136126995
this isn't a matter of free speech though, she basically took someone already mentally disturbed and convinced him to an hero while she listened. I mean come on, you people are cucking yourselves to believe this shit

>>136128518
no one commenting on this case has read the transcripts

every suicide "victim" has mental problems.

do you want to convict every person who has ever had conctact with someone who ended up killing themselves?

if you, you are a hypocrite who doesn't understand how depression works

this guy would have killed himself eventually because he didn't get the help he needed, and his family who are crying all over the media now didn't give two shits about helping him

>>136128173
>you can't imprison someone for being a bad person
Clearly you can

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THIS IS A SLIDE BREAD YOU IDIOTS. EVERYDAY THE SAME FUCKING SHIT BREADS.
Go see the text message exchange and you'll see that the dude went out of the car and she told him to go back and harassed him into killing himself after he had quit the idea.

PS: saged

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>>136129194
thank u

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>>136126995

she has her great-grandmothers aryan genes

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>>136126995
>>136127185
>>136127313
>>136127481
>>136127929
>>136128173
>>136128367
>>136128952
>free speech
>assisting in suicide

kys

>>136129194
>she told him to go back and harassed him into killing himself
Is this Poe's law in action or are you just retarded?

(((HE))) killed (((HIMSELF)))

>>136127313
>white knighting for some roastie by shoehorning it into an issue of principle
>calling anyone else a cuck
shigm8

>>136126995
>You can either stick to your childish hatred of all things woman

Nice strawman

>>136126995
Are you kidding? She should be 4chan's patron saint.
Telling people to KYS is the most fundamental element of this site's culture.

>>136126995
I don't think she did anything wrong.
If a guy kills himself because someone told him too he had problems.

>>136129639
Did she dress ethnic on purpose to get leniency from the court?

>>136129747
I don't think it is.
/pol/'s primary argument is "dude she's a bitch so she deserves it".

I didn't know being a bitch was punishable by the law.

>>136130074
I don't know what threads you were in, but I only saw that come from like 1 or 2 people max.

/pol/ is not one person

>>136127481
You're superficial claim insults the sophistication of the case. Telling some random person on the internet to kill themselves is not close to the level of influence she had over the guy she was texting. She should have sought help or tried to prevent him from going through with his suicide. Bitch is fucked in the head.

>Free Speech

You do know that incitement to suicide which ends in a suicide is a criminal offense in all developed and most develping countries, right?

>>136126995
Just wait til they start doxing us for all the nasty things we say. Then everyone will understand why this legal precedent is fucking terrifying. The number of people i have told to Kys. Even at 15 months a pop. Am going away for a long time.

>>136130074
Kill yourself my man

Lads, I wanna date her when she's out.

>>136126995
>now we care about free speech

she was convicted mostly due to the fact she knew her "bf" was dying and the location but didn't call for help

>>136126995
This case has nothing to do with morality or the "poor boy" or any of that nonsense. This case was about the judicial emboldening thier own powers. This case sets a precedent: you can now be jailed for your words and only your words. What's to stop one of these liberal activist judges from saying that criticizing Hillary Clinton is a crime? Words are now crimes.

But hey at least you /r9k/ fags can laugh at a "roastie".

>>136126995
She's a cunt, but she doesn't deserve any jail time.

>>136130222
>the level of influence she had over the guy she was texting
1. She wasn't blood related.
2. She wasn't married to him.
3. If you actually dig deeper, the guy had pretty much been sending her pitty texts for OVER A YEAR

Is it her responsibility to get him help? No.

>>136126995
I guess some would put verbal assault and abuse under "freedom of speech," too? Is it also okay when daddy screws with his little kid's head and fucks him up for life? That is a person in dominance deliberately setting out to ruin somebody in a weaker position. This boyfriend of hers clearly had mental problems. He was in a position of weakness. She didn't text him "lul kys." She expressed clear intent. There is a degree of trust that goes into a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. That should be the LAST person to do something like this. I think she deserves more jail time.

>>136126995
She facilitated the suicide of someone, she should at least know the consequences of her own actions beyond just guilt. She needs at the very least 5-10 years.

>>136128173
>And that is literally what this case is about now.
Yep. I talked to my mom about this case and she said "she's evil and deserves"... she hadn't even read the transcripts and didn't even know their were transcripts.

Women's suffrage was a mistake and we're going to have to take away thier right to vote and sit in on juries, or else this nation is doomed.

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>>136130102

fookin kek'd

>>136129639
Should his parents go to jail for neglect?

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/POL/ what the actual fuck? Get your shit together we dont know her. Let's face it ubermensch harrased weak individual. She deserves some social works tops to see that behind every face is a human being.

Are we starting to accept global agenda's "freedom" of speach bullshit. With freedom comes responsibility for your actions not lack of it. You can't just say fuck something and expect not to get punch in the face because "freedom of speach". You can say anything but you must face it that always there's someone offended.

>>136127476
>>136127515
Kill yourselves already

You win /pol/.
I can't argue with you anymore for the sake of my own sanity.

To me this case was very clear:
Someone is being put in a cell for 15 months over WORDS. Not actions, words.

But I guess I'm just a white knight cuck.

Good night :)

>>136126995
But you can't support this and still support facism and Christianity. Both are literally opposed to free speech.

>>136130074
I'm convinced it's the influx of female posters who have been emboldened by the Lauren Southerns of the world. They need to go back to t_d immediately. I've seen more and more of these female non-arguments on /pol/ lately

>>136130268
Um excuse me, I'm reporting you to the authorities for thought crime.

Shareblue slide thread. They've been monitoring thus case since it hit the news and knew it would get guaranteed replies here.

>>136130507
He was an adult male, she was a child. How was she in a "position of authority" over him?

>>136126995
She should not be imprisoned at all.

>>136127239
Kill yourself faggot

>>136126995
>but freedom of speech doesn't care about moral values when it comes to love

She parrots the MSM, her lame criticism and BS isn't exactly rare, its fucking mainstream!

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This type of shit has always been illegal
you are just fucking retards

just like the US has always been a fucking republic

its actually quite funny *clinks ceramic demon portal*
thats about all

>>136127449
If you get the opportunity, you should kill yourself

how the fuck is convincing someone to kill themselves free speech?
the right to anything stops when someone else's life is at risk

>>136127515
I think you should strongly consider killing yourself!

>>136126995
>childish hatred of all things woman
Found the roastie.
>mocks "muh freeze peach" when right-wingers use it to their advantage
>"wahh, anyone who disagrees with me is a manchild! manipulating a mentally ill person into committing suicide is free speech!"

Guys her life is fucked.
She's one of the most hated people in America right now
She is mentally ill according to the defense
She can't make money of the story
She's going to get death threats and be bullied forever
She will suicide soon too
Freedom of Speech has consequences.

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>>136126995
>white knighting because she is an above average looking blonde girl
the definition of degeneracy
if it was a fat fuck or a nigger you would be shouting for a sentence

>>136126995
It's not free speech when you're instructing someone to commit violence against themselves or others.

>>136127703
String yourself from off the nearest bridge and jump off it

She's cute in an unconventional way

>>136129883
This. If you're a spineless jellyfish faggot who kills himself because some bitch told him that he needed to go, he needed to go. He's out of the gene pool, and that's a good thing. My suspicions are that most of the people who hate this chick are females.

>>136126995
Fuck her and fuck your post

She deserves trial by combat with a fucking tiger

Sage

>>136128518
Put the bullet in the chamber, stick it to your head and pull the trigger

>>136131119
>She will suicide soon too
The judge should be charged if that happens. After all, his actions led to her killing herself. That's how the law works now, and judges can't be above thier own laws.

>>136128763
Choke urself to death

>>136131241
:)

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>>136126995

>>136131215
trial by combat vs tiger

>>136131131
I'm a cute girl now fucking kill yourself

>>136131229
You're LITERALLY committing HOMICIDE!!!!!

>Haha free speech guys xD
>You cant jail a mafia boss because he ordered somebody to be killed !!
>Charles Manson should be free he didnt kill anybody he just said somebody should be killed that was free speech

There you go shitposters you are a disgrace and shouldnt have this flag

>>136131241
This doesn't even make sense. Nice try though

>>136131132
Buy a bottle of Clorox and some aspirin, eat all the pills and wash it down with bleach

Telling someone to commit a crime doesn't fall under freedom of speech, and killing yourself is illegal.

>>136131131
If it was a fat fuck or a nigger, I'd be even more convinced that he needed to die.

If I'm understanding this correctly, this whole thing is one step away from blue-whaling.

>>136131440
wew

he meant if it was a fat fuck or a nigger encouraging the sucide

>>136131432
Go read the first amendment and tell me where that exception is in it. And provide the statute that says that killing yourself is illegal.

>>136131432
Commit seppuku its the only way you'll die with honor

>>136126995
I'm so sorry that your a faggot, but making a person kill himself isn't part of free speech, because she's being censored, she's being punished since her speech, while free, killed someone.
Sage, OP is a faggot.

>>136131336
>he thinks that's all she said
>either too dumb, illiterate or lazy to look up what happened
just fucking end yourself right now.

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>>136131440
>this level of reading comprehension

>>136131495
>Not taking me literally

I know that. If a fat fuck or a nigger can convince you to kill yourself, you probably should remove yourself from the gene pool. Pronto.

>>136131427
Are you autistic? You are clearly doing it in a satirical context therefore it would be allowed.

>>136131578
Gas yourself

>>136131661
See:
>>136131669
Now, KYS.

>>136131409
Yes it does. If your actions lead to somebody killing themselves, then you are responsible for homocide. That is literally what this judge ruled. Ergo, if Michelle kills herself it will be a direct result of this judge's actions and we will be guilty of homocide. It's the law now, get over it.

>>136131601
Better kill yourself now before you get thrown in fuck-me-in-the-ass prison. Cucks like you don't fare well.

>>136126995
Freedom of speech? What the fuck are you on about you fucking retard?
It's people like you that need to be murdered right away.

>>136126995
Jesus Christ she's fucking perfect. I'm going to write a letter to her expressing my love and devotion to her when she's in prison.

>>136131677
I'm not kidding. Remove yourself from the gene pool.

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>>136127239
Just get here from rëddit?

>>136131759
>get over it
wew ok kool kid

You can keep up with your mental gymnastics

>>136131880
Don't steal my girl faggot, kill yourself.

I don't think she deserves prison but I would like to throw rotten tomatoes to her for being an awful human being.

>>136131407
RICO statutes have always been unconstitutional and Charles Manson should unironically be free. You just keep on licking those tasty leather boots though.

>>136131677
How is it "clearly" satirical?

>>136130224
Kys

>>136131759
actually they would be charged with involuntary manslaughter

>>136131917
Do you have an actual argument, or just more roastie talk? Tits or go the fuck back to t_d

>>136131917
There are too many emotional women on here these days. Listen, ladies, if you don't want your sons to off themselves because they're spineless faggots, raise them to be real men. Make your husbands raise them to be real men. A real man would have either put this chick in her place, or left her when she started with her KYS shit. A real man would have never got to the point where she was doing her KYS shit.

>>136131981
>Charles Manson should unironically be free
(((pol))) is more likely to agree with this statement than the OP because Charlie Manson doesn't have typical Aryan genes.

>>136128952
You're a fucking nigger if you think that a girl that convinced a guy to kill himself is the same as someone who associated themselves with a suicidal guy

she's guilty for the same reason you can't yell fire in a crowded theater

>>136132219
>Israel calling someone a nigger
Truly gents, we are living in a memetastic time.

>>136126995
>You have an important decision to make /pol/.

Actually the judge made the decision

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My old roommate did the same exact thing except he put a knife into his ex, now deceased gf. He got a life sentence. I don't really see a difference between urging a person to kts vs actually physically going through with it. Seems like she got let off easy. /pussypass

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/12/14/Man-gets-life-in-prison-for-girlfriendxs-slaying.html

>>136132108
>>136132151
>le woman meme

No I'm not arguing I'm not going to participate in your mental gymnastics

Idc about her. Her life is ruined and that's good enough for me

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Let's focus on the important question at hand. Where's her dirty pics?

>>136132314
haha good one your rekt me :)))
never question a (((judge))) :))))

>>136132219
Kys kike

>>136126995
she's probably just a run of the mill psychopath.
she just wanted to see what it was like to watch someone die. these pp get bored easily.

watch some loser marry her

>>136132381
So you admit you have no argument and you have conceded the debate? Thank you. Back to t_d, Lauren.

>>136126995
Manson is in jail for the same thing. His words killed people. So did this slut's. It isn’t free speech.

Jesus this beta cuck must have been the biggest faggot on the planet to kill himself while he had a banging hot gf like that

>>136132381
The faggot kept on coming back to her, even after she started with her KYS shit. He needed to die. She did the world a service by convincing him to jump out of the gene pool. This is not mental gymnastics. This is me saying that his death was a good thing.

>>136126995
>implying they will give jail time

they'll probably just give her a slap on the wrist maybe some comminty service

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>>136132480
Where did I say I admit I have no argument?
There's people arguing all throughout the thread why should I repeat the same thing?

Your autism is showing

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>LOL HAHA SHE SAID KILL URSELF AND HE ACTUALLY DID IT AND NOW SHES GOING TO PRIZON WTF???????
this is what OP's peanutbrain actually thinks happened

>>136132489
>His words killed people.

This was literally a South Park joke.

You are unironically saying something that one of the most left wing sjw literally Jew owned shows made fun of.

...

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>>136132581
Whatever you say m8.
If you think suicidal people killing themselves is good then I guess you win

>>136132108
how about you go back to fucking r.e.d.d.it where you belong

>>136130412
Blood relation has no significance, don't be stupid. Marriage does not add a level of influence, again, don't be stupid. If he sent these pity texts for years, she should have ceased contact from him or reported it to someone capable of providing the care he needed.

>>136132799
>If he sent these pity texts for years, she should have ceased contact from him or reported it to someone capable of providing the care he needed.

And here we have it folks, the crux of the narrative.

I present to you: THE VICTIM COMPLEX

oy vey, oy gevalt!
throw them all in prison, please!

>>136132762
If you think that suicidal people being a drain on society is good, you can fucking support them. I've been around suicidal. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. It is guaranteed to be emotionally draining for everybody around. But when they do it, there is closure. It is done.

>>136132789
Says the white knight defending a 5head

>>136132956
Kill yourself

She could be held accountable for taking advantage of a mentally unstable person. Kinda like telling a retarded girl that your peepee tastes like yummy.

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>>136132956
Stfu Leaf. Go be Muslim somewhere else.

>>136133026
>that conservative summer dress
NO SHE IS PURE EVIL

>>136132956
I don't give a shit about your dumbass argument I'm here for kys reaction images

>>136132953
In the civilized world, people help those weaker than them. Suicidal people have families. They're people too. Some suicidal people like military and veterans helped society and don't deserve to be looked down upon.
You belong in Africa nigger

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>>136133134
you on the left
replace finnflag with deusvult larp flag

>>136126995
Enough with this ugly cunt. It's over, let it go

If you actually think Michelle is a good lil sociopath who dindu nothin you seem to have a fundemental misunderstanding of what laws are for, and also have some weird, deeply-flawed, hyper-individualist sense of what rights are. Laws are not to punish criminal actions alone, but also to discourage criminal states of mind. Freedom of speech similarly doesn't give you the right to say anything you want, speech that does others harm (i.e. telling the suicidal to kill themselves) is illegal and punishable.

In short: kys

The real question is did they find any nudes of her on his cell phone and when will they be leaked?

>>136133214
Murderers and child rapists have families. Even ones who served in the military. So fucking what? Even niggers who didndu nuffin have families. How many X chromosomes do you have?

>this stupid cunt is going to rot in prison
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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>>136133417
Saying they have families is being used to show that they're people. Idk why you're trying to compare them to murders and child rapists as if that statement would have the same meaning
Not really that hard to understand.

>>136126995
shes hot

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>>136133272
The word "criminal" is purely subjective in relation to society. If he was feeling suicidal, (which is a vague and convoluted mental state; L'appel du vide) then why couldn't she be feeling a little homicidal? Both would qualify as abnormal human behavior (in the social sphere) and therefore should both be diagnosed as temporary insanity.

>>136133725
Because you brought up that suicidal people have families as an argument. The implication being that taking them away from their families has emotional consequences for the families. Guess what? Michelle Carter has a family. Throwing her in the clank has emotional consequences for her family. Hell, even the trial has had that, guaranteed. It has hurt her family.

How many X chromosomes do you have?

Gross negligence, assistance in illegal suicide. In what way is she innocent? You can't convince me /pol/ isn't mostly inhabited by double-digit IQ people. The only retort to the opposition they can think of in this discussion is "kys".

>>136133902
Saying a suicidal person has a family isn't the same as saying a criminal has a family.
Nice try though.

>inb4 she's not a criminal! She broke no laws!

>>136134202
>Saying a suicidal person has a family isn't the same as saying a criminal has a family.
why not?

she's not a criminal. She broke no laws.

>>136134433
see
>>136134138

Wasn't she on the phone with him as he was committing suicide?
The problem here is not that she sent him mean texts, it was her negligence to act.
When you know someone or see that someone is in the act of committing suicide you are required by law to call the police, and she didn't.

>>136132999
because an anonymous faggot telling someone to kill themselves is the same as this bitch pestering her suicidal boyfriend into killing himself, telling him how to do it, and telling him to keep doing it once he tries and gets scared,

Again, did you just read the headline of an article about this or what?

>>136133831
What a mangling of the philosophy of law this post is
Kys (it's not illegal for me to say that)

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>>136134138
>File name

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>>136134138
>"Assistance in illegal suicide"

Tell me, how much time could someone be sentenced for illegally killing themselves?

>>136134138
BUT SHES A MILDLY ATTRACTIVE BLODNE WOMYN!!!!!!!!!!!
INNOCENT!!!

>>136134598
So if I'm drivng on the highway and see someone run into traffic ,if I don't stop and call the police I should be sent to prison for 15 months?

>>136134202
No, you started arguing about the emotional consequences to the family. Criminal law enforcement has emotional consequences for the families of the convicted. You want to apply your feelz in one instance, but not the other. You are inconsistent. There are unintended consequences for everything that the state does. She told this guy to do something that wasn't criminal in itself, and we've become so weak as a society that she was convicted. The faggot was a weak ass motherfucker who was stupid enough to listen. Good riddance.

How many X chromosomes do you have?

>>136134698
6 gorillion years

>>136126995
Telling someone to commit suicide is not murder.

Thinking it is is completely insane.

>>136134753
No, you're not. And if you ask them to provide the statute, they'll provide something that they need to twist to the point that it is unrecognizable from its plain text at best.

>>136134682
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>>136134648

Think outside the confines of your own society for a second there, Cletus. There are places in the world where it is socially acceptable to eat your second child. His actions brought about his own death. He is directly responsible. If saying, "kys" should have made me kms.

You Monster...

>>136126995
I find it dangerous that she got a sentence for this. I mean I don't want that saying "kys faggot" can get people into jail. If you tell someone to fucking kill themselves and they are so dumb to actually do it - for whatever reason, under what ever circumstances. It's their own fucking responsibility. Suicide is a coward's way out.

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>>136134777
>Suicidal people have families. They're people too.

I wasn't arguing about emotional consequence I was saying they were people that should be helped in society, while you were saying they should die.

>You want to apply your feelz in one instance, but not the other. You are inconsistent.

Say a criminal has a family and see if anyone cares. It's not my fault the world is inconsistent.

>How many X chromosomes do you have?

Cmon I thought /pol/ was better than this. You spammed this like 3 times in a row. Is this supposed to hurt my feelings?

her new film was absolutely shit

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>>136135147
It's okay... If they lock us all up for saying, "kys" we would out number the normies 1000 to 1. I got dibs on the bottom bunk of our cell though.

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>land of the free
>illegal to tell your beta orbiter to off himself

>>136135258
>I wasn't arguing about emotional consequence I was saying they were people that should be helped in society, while you were saying they should die.

Why should they be helped? I guarantee that this will devolve to feelz on your part.

>Say a criminal has a family and see if anyone cares. It's not my fault the world is inconsistent.

You are inconsistent, and you claim that you aren't part of the problem relating to inconsistency. Fail.

>Cmon I thought /pol/ was better than this. You spammed this like 3 times in a row. Is this supposed to hurt my feelings?

Because you're acting like a woman. How many X chromosomes do you have? Middle aged moms invading /pol/ has been a mistake.

Karma is a bitch

Reading these threads I feel like I'm the only person who actually read the transcripts and not some summary some fag made here. If you think this is about free speech then you're an idiot, this isn't the same as telling some neckbeard on pol to kill themselves, this type of conviction isn't even the first of its type, this shit happens all the fucking time. Seriously, go read the text messages, inform yourselves and better yet, grow up.

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>>136135427
lol

>>136126995
Let me guess.
You are a woman.

>>136135612
NAH SHE TOLD HIM TO KILL HIMSELF AND HE DID IT AND SHES AN ATTRACTIVE BLONDE WOMYN WTF SHE CANT GO TO PRISON??????????

>>136130724
I am with you friend

>>136126995
She wasn't convicted of telling him to do

She was convicted for allowing it to happen without alerting anyone

>>136127515
So what, she's not a fucking wizard who can compell action through magical words alone. If this guy's so fucking stupid he'll kill himself just because some 5head roastie tells him to, fuck him.

>>136135492
>Why should they be helped? I guarantee that this will devolve to feelz on your part.

Again. In a civilized society, you help those that are weaker than you. It's why we have doctors.

>You are inconsistent, and you claim that you aren't part of the problem relating to inconsistency. Fail.

It's how the world works. People tend to care less about the criminal than the victim. Idk why you can't understand that.

>Because you're acting like a woman. How many X chromosomes do you have? Middle aged moms invading /pol/ has been a mistake.

Yep only women think Michelle Carter was in the wrong. Your mind is warped.

>>136135848
The government itself is not required to act to save somebody even if it knows beyond a reasonable doubt that person is going to die if it doesn't act. Placing that burden on private persons is a bad idea.

>>136135930
Says the woman.

>>136127515

Who fucking cares? Some beta killed himself, if he did it because someone told him to then he's even more pathetic.

>>136135930
>Again. In a civilized society, you help those that are weaker than you. It's why we have doctors.

That doesn't answer the question. You are stating it as a tautology. If you really dig, you are going to get down to your emotional roots. It's about the feelz.

>It's how the world works. People tend to care less about the criminal than the victim. Idk why you can't understand that.

And you don't give a shit about the criminal's family. That's why you're inconsistent.

>Yep only women think Michelle Carter was in the wrong. Your mind is warped.

You could simply answer the question: How many X chromosomes do you have? Your avoidance speaks volumes.

>>136136038
>I have no argument so I call someone a woman
>A woman's argument is less than mine cus science

Wew you virgins are fucked in the head.

>>136135848
She was convicted of involuntary manslaughter

Three elements must be satisfied in order for someone to be found guilty of involuntary manslaughter:

>Someone was killed as a result of the defendant's actions.
>The act either was inherently dangerous to others or done with reckless disregard for human life.
>The defendant knew or should have known his or her conduct was a threat to the lives of others.

>>136136313
>sex shaming
You really do come across as one tho

>>136128518

>It was murder.

I'd like you to find a tall building and jump off it anon, but please delete your internet history first k.

Am I a murderer?

>>136136360
Because I disagree with you guys
K

Haven't heard much about this just the gist. Guy was emotionally holding on to her and threatening himself and she was like yea whatever kill yourself. And he did it and she got charged, a teen girl... regardless of what devious back story they painted this is two teenagers one couldn't handle it the other one wasn't gonna be brought down by the other... the end. it should be a tragedy, but now its just a shit show.

>>136136327
>>Someone was killed as a result of the defendant's actions.
This is the questionable part. If I call someone mean names and he offs himself, am I guilty of manslaughter for having hurt his feelings?

>>136136445
You're clearly a chick
Post tits

>>136132799

If some beta faggot attention texts you for years, you're well within your rights to bantz him into suicide for your benefit.

Suicide is for faggots.

>>136126995
Call to action is not free speech you retard

>I learn things on /pol/ and thus have to live by them lest I get laughed at on the internet

>>136136445
Women are rely on emotional more than men. Deal with it.

>>136136445
Not necessarily, see my post here >>136136507

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>>136136313
My argument is easy to access, if you knew how to manipulate the functions of 4chan, you vacuous fucking cow.

>>136136281
>you are going to get down to your emotional roots. It's about the feelz.

Why is emotion considered bad? We don't live in caveman days.

>And you don't give a shit about the criminal's family. That's why you're inconsistent.

Ok I never said it wasn't inconsistent. It's reality.

>You could simply answer the question: How many X chromosomes do you have? Your avoidance speaks volumes.

I'm a male. It doesn't matter if I was female. Everyone that disagrees with you isn't a female.
Your next argument is that I'm a beta male right?

>>136126995
Commit thot crime, do thot time.

>>136135144
Actually she is responsible for having him "get the fuck back in that car" and offing himself. Otherwise he would have pussied out; he died because of her encouragement.
This case was not knew in any fucking way. It has been illegal to convince people into suicide for fucking centuries, this case was only interesting in that it happened over text.

I'm not sure what you're getting at with your babbys first nihilism shit. Yes laws exist to preserve social norms against the morally depraved. In our society pressuring people into suicide is morally reprehensible. Into the slammer you go

>>136126995
it's this leftist idea of you are not responsible for your action

hence why guys like these >>136127116

are for funding private prisons

sad

>>136136594
Yes I agree. But i don't see what that has to do with anything.

>>136136630
Idc that much about you to search for your argument faggot

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>>136136507
I would say no but I wasn't on the jury
pretty crazy that there wasn't at least one constitutionalist on the jury

This is why you don't live in Massachusetts

>>136130679
I made this argument yesterday.
>He was receiving mental health treatment
>Obviously not enough, his family should be more aware of his well being. Obviously not enough.
>She had her own mental health issues but is a demon. (not defending her, she's a terrible person, but there's no doctrine making that illegal)

>>136126995
Irrelevent of what she did, there's already reasonable limits on free speech, you can't yell fire in a crowded place where the result is people getting trampled to death, and you cannot threaten people with aggression. These are already legal precedents basically everywhere in the world.

As for what she did, you can reasonably call that aggression. She even admitted herself in txts to friends that it was her fault and she could have stopped him.

>>136130724
That's the heart of it yes. Good Samaritan law gets funky though. Stupid blue state.

>>136126995
I hate blacked but wouldn't mind seeing her take ten nigger dicks for some reason! How odd

>>136126995
What if I purposely trick a 6 year old child into grabbing a live power line that was downed with just my words? Should I face no charges?

>>136137019
Theoretically, the child was stupid enough to listen to you and Darwin compensates for stupidity with mortality.

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>>136126995
The sentence was such a disappointment. I wish she could be jailed for life and would have no choice but read and respond to the love letters i would send to her. She could have been my wife.

>>136135913
Do you ever stop to think about how advertisement works?

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>>136136766
How did she not know he was joking? There is low to no emotional cues through text and perhaps she was tired of him threatening to commit suicide EVERY time shit wasn't going his way. Maybe she thought he would never go through with it and was playing along. Anyway, telling someone to kill their self, as opposed to helping them tie their noose, are two very different things. Kevorkian did nothing wrong and neither did she. I know people who have offer themselves, the world is better off.

>>136136507
She clearly understood he was in a vulnerable state and provided substantial encouragement.

>>136136741
>Why is emotion considered bad? We don't live in caveman days.

Yet we are still fundamentally the same people that our caveman ancestors were. Even back then, emotion served a purpose. But so did empirical observation. Which ties nicely into:

>Ok I never said it wasn't inconsistent. It's reality.
Which means that you aren't going to be unable to deal with the concept of unintended consequences, and there will be legal unintended consequences if this case is appealed and she loses the appeal(s).

>Your next argument is that I'm a beta male right?
As somebody who has cucked other men and been in brawls, yes. It's not really an argument, but you do have the mental makeup of a beta.

>>136136849
*As a woman

>>136126995
Really, I want to see her pain broadcasted to every thot in the world.

>>136137208
>the electric jew saps me of all free will!
If you're a complete brainlet maybe.

>>136127473
Pirate flag. Likely a nigger who cares what you think. Also Kill your self

>>136130102
Absolutely Turkish

>>136130074
Oh look you keep trying to create that same strawman.

>>136131052
peace out

>>136137335
Lmao your insult doesn't even make sense.
Then you faggots cry and say "Why are most women liberals?! Why can't I find a conservative gf?!"

>>136136496
>she was like yea whatever kill yourself. And he did it
Where did you read that?
Try reading the evidence used in court instead of what some autistic white-knight on /pol/ says happened.

>>136126995
This is not freedom of speech, same way that speaking to a terrorist about how he will carry out an attack is not freedom of speech.

>>136137257
Hmm, this goes back to Brandenburg v. Ohio, if cuck-boy had demonstrated that he really was about to do it, not whining (I myself had a lab partner who would always say "I want to die"), one could argue that she egged on an imminent crime.

>>136126995
Nah, fuck free speech, lock that sociopathic whore up, she's unfit to live in society

>>136126995
>emo beta faggot removes himself from the gene pool
>a bad thing

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>>136137323
Cool. I see you are completely fucked in the head.
Everyone here that says this bitch deserved more time is a beta male. Everyone that wants to help suicidal people= beta male

You're so SAVAGE bro. You're the epitome of an Alpha Male!

Your waifu's life is still fucked

>>136126995
Or

We could abolish freedom of speech for women

Win-win

>>136126995
Fucking white knight nigger.
She deserves life in jail

>>136126995

God she's ugly aa fuck. I support locking her up just so everyone's spared that ayylmao 7head. It's practically a civil obligation in her case.

>>136137856
Yet, if SHTF, people like you will rely on people like me. If we are feeling generous. What you think is fucked in the head is from taking a cold, hard look at the world. People come to me during hard times, not the other way around.

>>136138127
Fuck you she's not

>>136127625
Fucking this

>>136137257
What constitutes "substantial" encouragement? What about him? He was a weak fucking beta fag. She was obviously tired of him threatening suicide all the time and decided to play along. You're playing a very dangerous game with MY freedom, along with everyone else's because "muh feels".

>>136128173
If you can imprison a man because he is homeless and can't pay child support you can imprison someone for this.

Sage

>>136131981
I'd wager you're one of those soveriegn citizens types. Why dont you go film yourself at a playground with an ar

>>136126995

I completely agree with you, but my strong dislike for most females still makes me happy that she is going to jail. I hope that roastie cunt goes to jail for the rest of her life.

>>136138204
Nigger you'd be the first one dead if shit went down.
Your sword and dagger collection isn't going to help anyone

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>>136127625
An argument could be raised on her behalf, that she was only trying to show him that people would care if he died.

Reverse Psychology Malpractice Lawsuit...

>>136137916
Seconded
Just by reading this thread it's obvious they don't value it

>>136138634
Continue to think that. I encourage this viewpoint if it makes you feel better about yourself.

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>>136137916

>>136138634
So... You're a black woman... Good to know.

>captcha: Property impasse... Relevant.

>>136127476
>>136127515
He was the only person responsible for his death.
She is an absolute cunt, but would you kill yourself because someone told you to?
If your answer is no, she is innocent. She is innocent anyway, she did not kill the boy.

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>>136139063
She might be a total cunt, but the last time I checked, that's still not illegal, unless you're Muslim.

>>136139052
>>136138867

Have fun mates. I know this is your only social interaction for the day but I can't entertain you anymore.

>>136139275
If by social interaction, you mean being somebody's bitch, yeah, no, I'm not going to do that. But you have fun with it.

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>>136139275
Keep telling yourself that. My life is more important than yours, I am certain. Your job is meaningless, as is your life.

>>136126995
I never cared about this girl or this case, but since you guys keep spamming this fucking shit:

Fuck her and I hope she rots in prison.

>>136127515
Sounds like your average woman to me
OP is a whiteknight neckbeard faggot

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>>136140207
It's not about the Bitch at all. It's about me, being able to tell some cock sucker to kill himself or herself without going to prison for letters. Fuck that neck-beard shit, this is about bitches turning my internet fun sites into an Orwellian nightmare, like Germany.

I don't actually believe in free speech at all. She could have just stopped responding to him or informed authorities, his family, etc. Instead she chose to speak and now she's suffering the consequences of her own choices.

These thread are weird.

Making legal arguments is pointless since this case is precedent setting.

On the other hand making moral arguments trying to show she was in the right rings very hollow when you simultaneously call the dead dude a weakling deserving of death.

My opinion is the following: if a person continuously and proactively tries to convince a person to kill themselves, and the person being persuaded suffers from conditions that make them a suicide risk (diagnosed depression for instance), then the act is immoral to such a degree that it is deserving of punishment.

>>136140508
If you don't value my free speech I don't value your life...Now what?

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>>136140508
> Doesn't believe in free speech
> Gives opinion anyway.

We need a new plague... It needs to be released in Canada.

>>136140655
I guess force would have to decide it. I have no illusions about the origin of any authority.

>>136126995
we're approaching this the wrong way

i believe, in some form, in an eye for an eye

the only way to make things right is to lock her in a car and gas her as well, something something text messages, who cares

>>136140752
Not believing in free speech doesn't mean not believing in speech at all.

>>136127194
Schenck vs US
>The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic. [...] The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent.

Dangerous speech that causes substantive evils (such as suicide) is not protected

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>>136140576
Go be Muslim somewhere else. Your country is absolute shit and your ancestors weep.

>>136139063
>would you kill yourself because someone told you to
Back when I had suicidal depression - there is a high chance that I would.
Suicidal man doesn't think straight. He is sick. Every thought leads to thoughts about how bad everything is, and that leads to thoughts about suicide. It is like you don't perceive information properly. Everything you see and hear is a reminder of how bad everything is, and how disgusting you are.
Tricking man in this state to kill himself is no harder then tricking child or autismal potato to do stupid shit. He doesn't think normally. If making child to run into traffic and die would be neglect and lead to arrest, so must be this.
But you obviously know that and I'm posting in a troll thread, but well, I have nothing better to do

>>136126995
I just love how they keep referring tot he guy as "her boyfriend"
It was a guy that wouldn't stop messaging her with
>hurr durr imma kilmyself.

>>136126995
>She may be a shitty person

No she is not. She's just devoted to her man to a fault and supported his dream even when he doubted himself. If she did not have such shit taste in men then she would have helped someone succeed in their dream with the amount of support she gives.

One evil and manipulative beta killed himself, not a big loss. And not her fault.

>>136127703
>Look, she's a bitch
Being a bitch isn't a criminal offense. No one should go to jail because they're an asshole.

>>136140902
What are you on about? Actually, never mind.

Did you have an opinion on what I wrote?

>>136126995

Women shouldn't have freedom of speech. Women shouldn't vote. Women shouldn't have free choice.

>>136140922
great but it will be used by faggots like this>>136140508 for many, many other things until we're back to war.

>>136140922
Your own mental state is not the concern of anyone else.
If you are weak of mind, that is your own issue.
She is still not guilty of anything.

Honestly she's an ugly cunt and I hate women so even if she was free, I would hunt her down like an animal

3 years is about right

She may get out early for good time, but the time she is in there will be pure hell for someone like that.

>>136126995
I think we should have measured the length of her forehead, and sentenced her to a year for each inch. You could land an A380 on that thing

>>136126995
>free speech
If a doctor guides you step by step on how exactly to kill yourself and watches to make sure you go through with it, is he also innocent? Pretty sure he would permanently lose his medical license and have criminal liability.

>>136141318
She knew that he would die if she would make certain actions and she went on with that actions. He died. Now, does it matter that this actions were sending texts?

>>136126995
You are an imbecil. Using the same logic it should be ok to call a bomb threat in the airport because "LOL FREE SPEECH"

>>136140892
This right here. It's pretty cut and dry really. There is no such thing as absolute unfettered free speech, and there never should be because it would be harmful to a functioning society.

>>136126995

>stand up for the ultimate example of free speech.

I'm as pro 1st amendment as you can get, but this was not a free speech issue. Read the fucking texts, mate. She needs serious help.

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>>136140990
Now we're cookin'!
Let that be a lesson to you wilted flower clutching boy-men. Bitches don't no weak mans.. They need rough dickin'.

>>136136281
Why is it bad to help people in that situation?

>>136141189
My opinion on this matter has already been stated. It conflicts with what you are arguing, to say the least.

>>136142188
Yes, and she tried to put distance between the guy and her. He wasn't her boyfriend as much as a guy that used his own life as a hostage to get her to talk to him. She may be a bitch, but that's not a criminal offense. She's not a psychiatrist either to be able to tell that he was mentally ill. She's a teenager that said something out of frustration. All because a faggot could get anything done properly. Not even falling asleep in a car.

>>136142188
Help, or punishment?

She's so ugly, yet so cute. What's wrong with her?

>>136126995
i don't defend ugly women, plenty of /r9k/ losers for that.

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>>136142196
>nigger
>posts "muh dik" meme
IT'S ALL SO TIRING

>>136143065
i'm guessing her mom was hot but settles for an ugly beta so their daughter has traces of hot but is overall ugly beta genetics. if she breeds with a beta her kids will be fucked.

>>136141310
There must be a way to make law work in a way that it can't be abused. They would be retarded to make make this precedent work in a way that saying "kys" to a random person would be a offence, so sjw could report on whole internet. Do you have so little faith in your judicial system? I thought it is one of the things that USA has better than others.

>>136130376
You are making the misconception that your laws are americas laws. Under no single US law are you required to act in ANY capacity as a civilian to save someones life.

>>136143327
I agree with you that suicidal people don't think straight, but you need to understand that this isn't widely understood knowledge. Just think of all the people that told you to "just be happier"
She tried to get him help early on. Dude kept using himself as a hostage to get her to talk with him. She tried to put distance between them. That didn't help either. She's not a psychiatrist, she's an asshole teenager for how she concluded the situation, but putting that much blame on her sets an unpleasing precedent.

>>136143327
american justice a system is a joke.

>>136143685
she could have just blocked his number or gone to her parents you dumb white knight. she also used his suicide as an excuse to get attention after she got caught.

she's been sentenced anyways so your white knighting is pointless.

>>136142856
She tried. It didn't work. He kept on coming back to her telling her that he wanted to die.

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>Consider the following...

KYS

>>136144089
she should have ignored him or told his parents to deal with him. quit acting like the only choice was to help him kill himself.

you are the same fags who think e bullying is real.

>>136130724
>Imam tells his muzzies to kill the unbelievers
>"Dude you can't arrest me it's just words!"
>Nigger yells to burn down a store in a riot
>"Dude you can't arrest me it's just words!"
>Spic tells you watch it gringo or he'll behead you
>"Dude you can't arrest me it's just words!"
...

>But I guess I'm just a white knight cuck.
You are, cuck.

>>136144214
And he could have cut contact with her when she started telling him to do it. It works both ways, faggot.

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>>136144214
>was to help him kill himself

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>>136144214
You're the type of faggot that wants the government to step in and fight your battles for you, just like mummy and daddy used to do for you throughout high-school. Get fucked beta Bitch.

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>>136144479
I love you.

>>136143685
>kept using himself as a hostage to get her to talk with him
Now thats slimy assholish thing to do. But, talking about only moral side here, does it give her enough moral high ground to justify her making sure he has killed himself? Seems a bit overboard.

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>>136144805
Of you haven't noticed, women can be pretty slimy sometimes, but we all have to eat the fuckin' pudding, don't we? If you can't handle it, perhaps you should go take a nap in the garage.

>>136144805
Morals don't belong in a court. I fully agree with you. She's a toxic piece of shit that should be shamed the rest of her life. I wouldn't be here speaking to you if I had come across this garbage human some time ago, but it should not set the legal precedent for such cases.

how can people make her, hypothetically, kill herself when she leaves prison and becomes a celebrity?

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>>136145074
>Lamenting, ex-suicidal super patriot reporting >for duty, my Kekistani comrades!

Still a weak minded lil bitch. I don't like the easily influenced, gullible nature of first world people.