When did you finally grow out of atheism, /pol/?

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>>136114729
Marxism is a cult. A cult based on Christian slave morality.

Atheism is just no believing in a magic character who created reality.

>>136114729

never since I was raised atheist so dont have religious garbage in my mind to fall back on

I haven't and I'm not a cuck athiest either

>>136114729
>born and raised Christian
>Know about those edgy atheism phases since 12

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>>136114729
There is no God

>>136114729
I don't believe in god but I see how important it was to western society.

It's gone to shit.

i grew out of christianity once i learned how dispensationalism was a meme created by the rothschilds using the scofield study bible. maybe orthodox christianity hasn't been corrupted but i'll never know since there are hardly any orthodox churches in the south

>>136114729
18 but recently I slipped back into it.

>>136114729
I haven't, but I'm an atheist not an anti-theist. I still believe religion has an important role to play in society. But religion (especialy abrahamic religons) has through the strict scriptures created a far too weak people.

Many religous rules are based upon being content with what you have. It has a filosophy based upon seeing the good in denying that you really want something, because you are unable to achieve it, and so you resort to shaming all others who seek to achieve these things or already have these things. Nietzsche called this Sklavenmoral (slave morality).

Through this line of thinking all weaknesses became imaginary strenghts:
*Sexlessnes became purity.
*Weakness became goodness.
*Submission to people one hates became obedience.
*Not being able to take revenge became forgiveness.

I recognize that I will never be able to disproove the excistence of a god just as no-one will be able to proove the excistence of a god so I call myself an Agnostic-Atheist, and as such I will not stop you from believing what you want, but will wholy reject your misguided morals, and advocate for the absolute rejection of them.

>>136114729
i grew out of christian faggotery at age 18.
so, nice maymay, and now kill yourself

Like three months ago.
I declared myself an atheist when I was like ten years old or something
Now im 22

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>>136114729

yeah I grew up out of it in the fedora way, once you hit 30 you tolerate other adults being silly for their own sake, it helps them in some way

when I was younger I fucking hated any sight of religion and was pretty verbal about it

still it's better to grow up not having magical thinking, can't really respect people who still believe bullshit but I tolerate them

>>136114944

No, atheism is believing the universe magically exploded itself out of nothing, for no reason, and had it magically form sentient life

One of the many amazing prophecies of Jesus Christ from the Old Testament is that of Psalm 22:

>"O God my God, look upon me: why hast thou forsaken me?"

Many people have said "Jesus said God has forsaken him on the cross, how could he be the Messiah?"
Jesus was invoking Psalm 22 on the cross. The Psalm was wrote around 1,000 years before Christ was born.

This is significant because a few verses later in the same Psalm it says this:

>"They have pierced my hands and feet."

Some renderings have it;

>"they have torn holes in my hands and my feet"

Strange. It would appear that Jesus Christ invoked a Psalm wrote 1,000 years before He was born that seemed to tell of His very unique death, crucifixion; which did not even exist at the time Psalm 22 was wrote.

Psalm 22 goes on to say:

>"They parted my garments amongst them; and upon my vesture they cast lots."

This is another strange coincidence. It is known that the Roman soldiers gambled, or "cast lots" on Christ's garments as He was being crucified. If Christ was utterly out of His depths and defeated; why does this Psalm--that was invoked as He was in unimaginable pain--foretell of exact circumstances of the very death He was experiencing? Circumstances that no one could have known?

Not only this, Psalm 22 ends by foretelling the great rise of Christendom, which was achieved based on the very death that Christ Himself was experiencing, that the Psalm undeniably addresses:

>"All the ends of the earth shall remember, and shall be converted to the Lord: And all the kindreds of the Gentiles shall adore in his sight."

Remember, at the time of Christ, only one tribe was expecting a Messiah. This Psalm called forth by Christ on the cross predicts His death to an exactitude, and it just happens to predict the unprecedented worldwide conversion based on this death.

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>>136114729
When I realized that atheism is utterly degenerate and at its core illogical.

>>136114729
When /pol/ made fun of me.

it doesn't matter what you believe in
it matters if you're willing to have pointless and stupid arguments on pol

atheism was the source for communism

atheism has never been the source of civilization

religions are an integral part of human evolution

civilization is what brought us up to the point we are at today

religions made humans enact unification and relative peace which allowed its own development

rejecting religions and refusing to understand them is a great mistake that leads to what we saw in the 20th century with communism

>>136115898
Damn

>>136116262
Calm the fuck down you fucking retard.

Holy shit. Christcucks are such a damn retards..

Listen here : NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR STUPID SHIT!

>>136116262
>and had it magically form sentient life
It certainly must seem so for you, remember what Arthur C. Clarke said "Any significantly advanced technology is indestiguishable from magic". You believe it is magic for the same reason that previously uncontacted tribes in the amazonian jungle thought that firearms was magical.

The rest of your argument is one big conspiracy that completely ignores the law of large numbers.

>>136116825
I agree he is wrong, but calm down, unlike you he hade no sentences in all caps and not one insult in his poorly formed argument.

When did a bunch of people in a hospital get killed becasue you are so fucking stupid?

Was a few weeks ago right?

>>136114729

How is it possible to be all of those awful things at once?

>>136116899
I actually didnt even fucking read it.
I just saw bunch of copy pastas from Bible and went ahead.

>>136115898
This one hit me desu

>>136116899

The historical evidence for the resurrection:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0iDNLxmWVM


Proof for the resurrection of Jesus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0tyVdnIU9A
The first 30 minutes is what's important from this one, the rest is questions and answers.


Ex-atheist scientist tells his story of becoming Christian after realizing that the story of creation in Genesis actually makes the most sense and gets a lot of things right compared to other religious books:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsbj7EN1Uzs


Cold case detective, former atheist analyzed the gospels using his skills and came to the conclusion that Christianity is the true religion and what is written in the New Testament is real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQmodO2quW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiYQzOypD9o
The videos are long, but they basically come down to this:
1. The chain of custody is sound, the story doesn't change over time.
2. There was stuff in the Bible that was later confirmed by archeology(places, people, etc.)
3. There are even non-believers' accounts of some stuff Jesus did, just from them you can know a lot about Jesus if you piece it all together.
4. The differences between gospels aren't a bad sign, because witnesses rarely agree on stuff. If every eyewitness would say the same thing, it would be very fishy and would mean they probably talked to each other at one point.
5. The apostles died without getting rich, getting a girlfriend or getting power, they all died horribly. There was no point in spreading Christianity if they didn't believe in it. Why would they risk their life if it wasn't true? Why would they risk their life if it was all forged? Why would Paul try to join this new small church?
Also the only accounts of Romans getting Christians to change their faith was after the 1st century. No account of eyewitnesses ever changing their story.

>>136116262
Yeah, it's almost has if it was written hundreds of years after Christs proposed existence, and just made to fit the psalms. How strange.

>>136114729
and you know what the probably actual reality is of this dude.. its that he is lazy

>>136116616
>religion causes peace

good joke

>>136114944
Confucius was a commie.

>>136116899

Remind me, I'd those Amazonian tribes have literal eye witness accounts of God's divinity, and have miracles continuing to this day - the miracle of the sun and the fatima revelations happened this century.

Face it. The Old Testament is full of prophecies proving Jesus was divine; fitting the prophecy exactly.

The fact that you don't think "they pierced my hands and feet" in the midst of describing a slow death and then that the soldiers gambled on His clothes isn't directly narrating the events on the cross is astounding.

Go and read all of psalm 22. The Old Testament also predicts Jesus would be betrayed, silent before his accusers, a sacrifice for the son of mankind, born of a virgin, born in Bethlehem, would ride into Jerusalem on an ass, would be called a Nazarene, would pray for His murderers, would be forced to drink vinegar etc... We know the dates of these texts. And we know the historical accuracy of Jesus' life and death. Jesus was the Son of God, and these verses alone prove the bible is divine.

It seems people just don't want to believe the truth.

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>>136114729

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>>136117222
But that's fundamentally untrue. Yes, the books of the Bible were edited and copied, just like we're still telling WW2 stories to this day, but the actual source material is eye witness account.

>>136117467

>Jesus never existed despite all the eye witness accounts and the manifest destiny that changed the world more than any other force

>The atheism fairy totally exploded nothing into everything though, just don't ask me to prove it

Kek

>>136114729
>Socialist

Rev up the chopper boys

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>enact unification and relative peace

>>136117178
I really dont have time for your conspiracy theories so I won't watch your videos.

>1. The chain of custody is sound, the story doesn't change over time.

There is literally millions of interpretations of the bible, each king alone in Sweden (and many other countries) issued a new bible because they where the new divine interpretor, so yes the the story does change.

>2. There was stuff in the Bible that was later confirmed by archeology(places, people, etc.)
Really so someone witnessed something wrote it down and then late someone found it and that prooves god how? None of these artifacts are divine or hold any holy powers. Also source, if your source is the video provide timestamp i don't have alot of time on my hands, this is during my lunchbreak.

>3. There are even non-believers' accounts of some stuff Jesus did, just from them you can know a lot about Jesus if you piece it all together.

Again, source? Also Jesus was an incredibly popular name back then same as was muhammed, it is possible that these where accounts of different people.

>4. The differences between gospels aren't a bad sign, because witnesses rarely agree on stuff. If every eyewitness would say the same thing, it would be very fishy and would mean they probably talked to each other at one point.

"When the story is stays coherent it's proof of god, when it doesn't that is also proof of god". This is getting sad mate.

>5. The apostles died without getting rich, getting a girlfriend or getting power, they all died horribly. There was no point in spreading Christianity if they didn't believe in it. Why would they risk their life if it wasn't true? Why would they risk their life if it was all forged?

"Why buy a painting if its forged?" Because they don't/didn't know it was forged!

>Why would Paul try to join this new small church?

Power over the masses, this is like saying why join a small corporation? Because you believe it will become a large corporation.

There is most certainly a God, and his name is Immanuel, 'God with us'. Christ entered into the world and brought us light. Come out of your prison cellar, Christ has already broken the door lock. Faith the size of a mustard seed is all it takes to step out of that cell and see that there is a world outside that is bigger than a cell. Life is hard, and he came to ease the burden and carry us through, so that we can be strong.

Larpers please go. You are attracting actual crazy people to /pol/ that think they are in good company.

Sage

>>136114729
>multiply disabled feminist socialist transgender atheist autistic jew
Could it be that God hates you?

>>136118052

>There is literally millions of interpretations of the bible, each king alone in Sweden (and many other countries) issued a new bible because they where the new divine interpretor, so yes the the story does change.

Go to church you euphoric faggot

>>136118052
Surely you don't have time to glance at other people's material but your self centered faggot ass is perfectly content with typing a bunch of conceited bullshit that everyone else has to read.

You've swayed no one and you're too sensitive to explore alternative views even if you're already confident it won't challenge your current views. Please kill yourself

>>136116616
Yep once I realized most atheists are just communists, Jews, and mentally ill people it kind of lost some of the appeal.

Christianity at least provides a written morality and most people practice 'Christian values' innately which suggests it's more in line with the human condition than being an edgelord.

>>136118631
>Go to church you euphoric faggot

I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single argument left. - Margaret Thatcher

>>136118674
>Glance at other people material
>5 1 h 45 min vids
>GLANCE!?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Also, I never said I wouldn't watch it, I said I'm on my lunch break and dont have time.

>You've swayed no one
This dude appreciated it:
>>136117170
>>136116740

As for your personal attacks I refer you to the top part of this comment.

Alright lunch is almost over, this Ubermench have stuff to do. Have fun being mad guys!

>>136119209
I will leave this tab open though so I can read when I get home, so if any of you have more arguments to present, please do, I am open to the possiblity that you could be right.

Just don't expect me to answer, because as I said, work needs me.
Bye!

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>>136114729
When I turned 19. I don't adhere to any religion, but I do think that God wants us to enjoy our existence, but doesn't have specific rules for us to follow or be punished.

>>136119209

Go.

To.

Church.

>>136119209
Honestly what is actually wrong with you?

Why do you even argue with them?

I dont know if this is just a Czech thing or what, but atheism is not about arguing with believers, atheism is about not giving a fuck.
Imagine someone was arguing with you about whether fucking Anime-Neko-Mimi-chan has blue or green eyes and you were a Chad who doesnt even fucking know what Asia is. Thats what atheism is about.
Let those who wanna argue argue abong themselves.

>>136115372
If you're right; you have nothing to worry about.

Otherwise you'll fry for eternity and I won't care.

>>136114729
When are you going to grow out of fairy tales, OP?
I believe in god, but see through the lies of religion. They are bullshit written by men, not god.
You could call me as an unobservant Zoroastrian if you insisted on applying a label.
God is the infinite void, and can communicate with you directly if you shed all ideas of religiosity.
What do you think the first commandment is really about? Any ideas you have of god will prevent you from communicating directly.

>>136114944
Marxists aren't going to get far if they promise to create a society which is anything but a workers paradise.

Marxists are anti-Christs and their vision is a counterfeit of what they imagine Christ's message to be. Marxists offer worldly success which is anti-thetical to true Christianity.

>>136120589

Nice try juden, but miracles still happen in Christ's name to this day.

>>136122278
>miracles still happen in Christ's name to this day
Examples?

>>136114729
When I discovered Norse paganism. So like at the age of 6

>>136114944
>atheism
>not a marxist tool

When did you become Agnostic?

When I saw the shadow on the cave wall for what it was. In the same way a bacterium cannot conceive of my sensory reality, I cannot conceive of the greater metaphysical world.

I grew INTO atheism.

Catholic School most of my life. I was that guy who was sent to the principal for calling out all the errors in the Bible.

I can't see how an intelligent person would believe in a big invisible man in the sky who controls everything.

Only sheep need a shepherd.

>>136116267
Why is social darwinism a bad idea?