>National Socialism is not Marxist Socialism
What does this mean? What separates the two? What does National Socialism do right that Marxist Socialism does wrong? What's the difference, and why does one work better than the other? I really want to understand this.
I would do my own reading on the subject, but all I've managed to dig up in my search so far is a bunch of people making this assertion with no further explanation. I've read Mein Kampf twice. I still don't get what's being said by this claim.
Contrary to it, it's my understanding that the command economy of the USSR functioned almost identically to Hitler's system, except Germany had a thin veneer of "private" ownership of capital, even though these capitalists were essentially agents of the state.
Can you explain, /pol/?
Sure. Germany was a clumsily inefficient command economy while the Soviet system was so efficient it advanced their society a whole generation in 1 decade.
Albert Speer talks about this at some length. Basically, when Hitler took power one of the things he did - I don't remember why - was to empower local governors or Gauleiters of the Military Districts Germany was divided into and gave them the same authority he had, except for when he was superceding them. Which meant that high-ranking Federal Government officials couldn't get States to throw money to the war without significant deal making and arm twisting. Because Gauleiters could tell the Federal Government of Nazi Germany to basically fuck off. This is just one example but a major one.
Nazis weren't socialists
They called themselves thay to get worker support.
All the actual socialists in the nazi party were purged in 1933.
National Socialism as I understand it rejects redistribution of wealth, and it at least entertains the idea of private enterprise.
It's impossible to know what would the ecnomics of Nazu Germany would have ended up as. They didn't have time for ideological purification.
>>136066746
Required reading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preussentum_und_Sozialismus
>>136066746
You've actually hit the nail on the head in the last paragraph of your post. Nazism and Communism are more similar than the left would like to believe.
>>136067166
So National Socialism was like post-industrial, vaguely socialistic feudalism?
>>136067369
And furthermore was more or less economically incoherent up until its destruction as an ideology on the world stage?
>>136066746
>What does this mean? What separates the two? What does National Socialism do right that Marxist Socialism does wrong?
Marxist socialism involves the state owning all the businesses and factories while pretending that the "proletariat" owns them. In National Socialism, the industries are owned by private individuals, but the state still has some ability to direct their activities.
>>136067902
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preussentum_und_Sozialismus
Okay, this is interesting, I'll give this a look. I've been meaning to get around to reading Spengler.
>>136068388
The degree to which they could be controlled is fairly crucial information. Most capitalistic nations meet these criteria to some extent.
>>136068174
dude, never take seriously any post from communist, anarchist or leafs
>>136066746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_QnE9-iK80
>>136066746
Gas the kiked
Marxist socialism is economic in nature and vehemently anti-capitalist. Nationalist socialism refers to a homogeneous society's race and is compatible with capitalism, albeit the state still has power over corporations, rather than a democracy where the most wealthy and corrupt (e.g. jews) rule.