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Who did Jesus fight?

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Who did Jesus fight with? Was it gays, sexually immoral people, "sinners" or the other political party? No; Jesus fought bankers and priests.

The money changers had a government-created monopoly on selling animals that were used for sacrifices. They were also authorized to charge people a large margin to change their Roman coins to Jewish ones, which did not have an image of Caesar, so they were used for offerings.

What did "gentle Jesus" do to those charging usury? He violently attacked them:

"Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves." (Matthew 21:12).

Who else did Jesus fight with? The false religious leaders. These men distorted the commandments, turning them into lists of confusing rules, with no relationship to the ethical principles.

Jesus distilled the law into two simple principles: love God, and love your neighbor. Those that tried to cover this up, he called a "brood of vipers" and "sons of Hell."

The usury-charging money changers now run central banks. And the priests run corrupt megachurches and denominations that take people's money and feed them lies. I see no reason why Jesus wouldn't go after these same people today.
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>>136063970
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>>136064318
You're a lost soul, faggot. You have been swayed by the jew. Sad, but if you truly look into yourself you will see the light.
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>>136064599
Please post verifiable evidence that Jesus was real. I'll wait.
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>>136064911
Please post verifiable evidence that Jesus wasn't real. I'll wait.

>in b4 jewish, the ones who hated him and had him killed, propaganda
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Satan (the Jews)
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>>136065181
>Satan (the Luciferians)

Fixed. Not all jews hashtag. There are a lot of jews, even in israel, that are against zionism.
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>>136065441
>Fixed. Not all jews hashtag. There are a lot of jews, even in israel, that are against zionism.
It doesn't work like that. You all have to go eventually shlomo.
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>>136065149
I am not claiming that he was real. You are the one making the claim that he existed.
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>>136063970
>Was it gays, sexually immoral people, "sinners" or

I suspect he would have kicked out anyone sodomizing in the temple as well. But that crime already carried a civic and religious death penalty, so . . . unlikely.
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>>136065661
But it does. Not all jews are for the luciferian controlled zionists. Those jews respect Christ, but don't think he's the messiah. They're wrong, but you must respect and forgive and try to show them the truth. You're thinking of zionists. The jews that are in control and are conspiring are not true jews.
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Jesus wasn't up against ideological subversion. I accept it was partially accidental, but the Soviets have created self righteous hatred. At least white supremacists can admit it, they hate blacks. A slimy feminist will actually deny it, she'll say, there's no issue and then run to the nearest authority and say there was.

Bankers, or rather Roman tax collectors and people selling spirituality are a minor problem against evil that's actually framed as good.

>>136064911
Census of Quirinius, Josephus' account of a man unrighteously crucified, later first hand accounts.

Jesus only "doesn't exist" if you burn and deny all the evidence.
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>>136066002
Could you link me to a source verifying that he existed with actual physical evidence?
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>>136065861
You lost. You're lost. You can still find the light, brother.

>>136065949
You suspect but are wrong. Read what Jesus said in the Bible.
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>>136066166
Is Harry Potter evidence that wizards are real?
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>>136066080
Could you link me to a source verifying that he didn't existed with actual physical evidence?
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>>136066334
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>>136066002
>they hate blacks

Do you really have to hate someone to be a supremacist?
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>>136066080
No, because there isn't even physical evidence Julius Caesar existed, if you move the goalposts here you will look too dumb to deserve (you)s.
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>>136066334
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
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>>136066423
Ok so any sort of written evidence I would accept as well.
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>>136063970
jesus didn't fight, he let others fuck him like the bitch he was
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>>136063970
No, he didn't fight them, but he did frequently tell them they weren't lost causes, they needed forgiveness and they needed to repent ("Go and Sin No More"). You're sadly mistaken if you think he approved of their behavior.
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>>136066166
>You suspect but are wrong. Read what Jesus said in the Bible.

Why don't you quote it to me? And please don't equate love with slamming your pecker into a man's hairy asshole.
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>>136066423
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/exist.html
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>>136066235
There is no historic reference to Harry Potter, idiot bro. There is for Jesus. I will not spoonfeed you. That isn't what life is about, to have everything you need in life given to you without you committing any work into it. I bet you're a socialist communist? Read the Bible.
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>>136063970
he literally fought the jews, and the jews killed him

hitler did absolutely nothing wrong
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>>136066386
Exactly! Nice meme pic. Can you not attribute yourself into a discussion without using memes? Sad. It shows how you've been jew'd. You can do it. I know it. God is in you.
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>>136066586
>>136066700
I respond to your clearly bias website that literally shows how dumb shit biased it is with wikipedia and actual proof from a third party, disinterested source that isn't a Satanist trying to deny a person's existence.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus

We all have a right to exist.
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>>136066002
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/josephus-etal.html
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>>136063970
The only person I can think of is Jacob. Jacob and Jesus wrestled pretty much all night. Jacob wouldn't quit, so Jesus touched his hip and gimped him for the rest of his life. He quit then.

Jesus killed 186,000 of Sennacherib's troops in an instant one night, but I wouldn't call that a fight, but a slaughter.
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>>136066002
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius
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Jesus was quite a philosopher, despite the fact I don't really care for religion especially Jewish based ones
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>>136066696
lmao
I already know how it will turn out. I'm not going ot waste my time. Please, look into yourself. And really look into it. Do not be biased which you probably will because your mind has been fucked all throughout your life.
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>>136067035
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus
From your own source:
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>>136067161
There were 2, muslim.
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>>136067070
Look, that site is obviously biased. Telling me to read that is this level of retarded >>136066774 because obviously the bible is also biased.

You are the most intellectually dishonest cunt here.

>ITS ONLY EVIDENCE IF IT WORKS FOR ME
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>>136067332
Sauce?

>>136067337
So the information contained is incorrect because you don't agree?
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>>136067108

I'm familiar with the passages you are referencing, but there is no scriptural indication that Jesus, himself, was directly involved in either.
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>>136066235
I'll See you in hell faggot, from heaven of course
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>>136067161
Nice wiki reference. You know you can't use wiki as a reference in a university right? Christmas is a luciferian pagan holiday and does not represent the true birth of Christ. You have no idea lol. There's a lot to learn, brother.
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>>136067175
>I already know how it will turn out. I'm not going ot waste my time.

You know you will lose.
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>>136067418
What you posted isn't counter evidence, it's historians saying what might of happened. Look I'm leaving the thread because you're a Satanist denying someone's existence. What you're doing is literally evil when it's a man who preached free love. Also, Wikipedia is filled with Marxist atheists.

You're not helping anyone by doing what you're doing. You are spreading hate by doing what you're doing.
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>>136067175
>your mind has been fucked all throughout your life.

Nope. That's what uncle wally did to you in the dark.
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>>136067571
https://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2009/11/01/Once-More-Quiriniuss-Census.aspx

Luke’s description of the census is difficult for three reasons. First, there is no record of a singular, empire-wide census instituted by Augustus.7 Second, a Roman census would have required Joseph to register not at his ancestral home in Bethlehem but in the principal city of his “taxation district,”8 presumably somewhere in Galilee. (Not to mention, Mary would not have been obliged to go with him.9) Third, Roman censuses were not administered in client kingdoms, such as Herod’s was.10

8. Schürer, History of the Jewish People, 1:407; also pp. 411 and 403, esp. n. 15; cf. also I. Howard Marshall, Luke, New International Greek Testament Commentary (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1978), p. 101.

9. “The particulars needed, as may be concluded from the analogy of the earlier Roman censuses, could be supplied by the father of the family” (Schürer, History of the Jewish People, 1:412). Contra vv. (Avebē de Iōsef... apographasthai sūn Mariau) Anebh de kai Iwshf...a.pograyasqai suvn Maria.u

10. Ibid., p. 413. Sherwin-White: “A provincial census in Judaea in the time of the kingdom is an impossibility” (Roman Society and Roman Law in the New Testament [reprint of 1963 ed., Grand Rapids: Baker, 1978], p. 163, n. 4).
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The end times are near. The bible says it. Everything happening now is in the Bible. The mass amount of degeneracy, corruption, and naysayers is NOW. You will see.
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>>136067733
Jesus isn't real. If you do harm to gay people, you do so by your own hand and your own beliefs. Be accountable.
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>>136063970
Saw this word for word on r/conspiracy today...
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There is nothing to indicate actual physical violence against the money changers in the temple. Just that he made a scourge.

John 2:15
And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;

the bible says jesus didnt ever do anything violent one single time

Isaiah 53:9
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

>No violence

jesus supports non retaliation for believers

Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Romans 12:19
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

the bible says god is love not god is mean. turn the other cheek means exactly what it says dont fight back

mighty men who advocate violence are not godly

Proverbs 16:32
32 He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.

Psalm 11:5
The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Jesus is meek and gentle

Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Titus 3:2
To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

Meek Definitions:
quiet, gentle, and easily imposed on; submissive.
enduring injury with patience and without resentment: not violent or strong
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>>136067753
Those who do that are not of Christ. The Priests of today are not of Christ. They're luciferians.

>>136067848
Just post the link you're getting it from.
To prove the point of my post.
https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/biblical-evidence-shows-jesus-christ-wasnt-born-on-dec-25
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>>136068010
Jesus was the original anti-semitic terrorist who hated innocent jews for absolutely no reason at all
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>>136068010
Reminder: these are opinions of rich progressive Jews of 0-100. They are not divine and Jesus never existed. There is not a shred of evidence not planted by Christian apologists that he was real.

No depictions of him from his lifetime.

If you choose to harm people based on a 2000 year old book, you do so because you want to, not because anyone is inspiring or coercing you. Be responsible for your own actions rather than blaming others.
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>>136068262
>Those who do that are not of Christ. The Priests of today are not of Christ. They're luciferians.

Fucked your mind up though, Uncle Larry did. You turned to religion but found no solace, only guilt. Now you have utterly rejected all religion and go around trolling the jesus freaks with your "Jesus was queer" nonsense.

Whatever.
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>>136066622

A la chingada es el deavlo, arrepientete Zatanas! :v
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>>136068389
Rot in hell sodmmite. The writings of the apostles serve as proof enough. Others have posted Roman census records yet you deny them, much like how you deny your salvation.
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>>136066700
Omg the proof he didn't exist is no one painted pictures of him. That no one but the many books of the bible describe him in history? These are foolish proofs. The rich and the upper class are saved in our history books. The jew that the jews and the Romans hated didn't end up as famous as Caesar. What a shock. Faith is Faith . Your lack of Faith will be your own undoing . When you are ready to turn to the Lord
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>>136069452
There was no census that recorded Jesus. Luke's account was problematic and you refuse to deal with that.
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>>136063970
Jesus fought the Jews and condemned homosexuality.
Have a (you).
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>>136069725

Did Mohammad hate gay people? Or are you here only to attack christians?
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>>136069875
Now you are just changing the subject.
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>>136069725
Luke was only a man and could have made mistakes in dates. I assume you ignore the fact there were three other apostles who chronicled the life of Christ. Explain the rapid spread of the tale, execution and resurrection of Christ if he was fictitious?
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>>136063970
God Bless you. A bastion in a sea of uterine lining
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>>136069987
Homosexuality is a sin and you will be purged.
Denying Christ is a sin and you will be purged.
Baiting this poorly is a sin and you will be purged.
Replying to this post in an effort to deny the bait or argue against the definition of sin is a sin and you will be purged.

You have until 2050, find God or you will be purged. There is no uncertainty in this matter.
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while we're at it sodomite, there's conclusive records of the crucifixtion of Christ

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_of_Jesus
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>>136070113
>apostles
>sources

>>136070321
you keep waiting
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>>136070321
I want you to show me where the word homosexual is in the Bible. And in its original language(s) so that you can't use either the pedophilic KJV or Freudian crap from 1880. It's me again. AAAAND GO! For the record i didnt even read this thread. You are my target and spokesman for your satanism. Go on
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>>136069987
>Now you are just changing the subject.

Not really. I'm highlighting your hatred of Christianity to the exclusion of other religions. I wouldn't be surprised if (as a typically cognitively dissonant liberal) you have defended Muslims in the past despite their vehement, concrete hatred of teh gays.
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>>136070351
fuck it was all just a meme among 12 buddies, their writings are just fiction ecksdee
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>>136070337
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_of_Jesus
Didn't see a single verifiable source that Jesus existed apart from Christians claiming it. If there is one, you let me know specifically what it is.
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>>136070351
I'm not waiting I am walking the path to achieve my goals.
You will not live beyond the year 2050.
You will be purged.
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>>136070556
OP deliniated things maybe he knew people would react do. We dont need atheism as much as we dont need these female extremists
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>>136070529
They are fiction.
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>>136063970 hej newfag, it's the jewes.

the jewels
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>>136070524

* typical cognitively dissonant
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>>136070498
Leviticus and Corinthians makes it pretty clear that lying with another man is morally reprehensible. There wasn't a term for it back then because faggots like you were simply executed for their crimes.
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>>136070498
Homosexuality is a sin and you will be purged there is to be no discussion.
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>>136070656
This isnt a thread for serious discussion is it. They never are. OP is based and authentic. You are something else
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>>136063970
In the Old Testament, Jesus stormed the walls of Jericho with the Israelites.
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>>136070676
What about the writings in the Talmud by Jews who saw Christ? What of their claims that he is boiling in a pot of excrememt? Why would they make that up?
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John 10:10 the enemy comes to kill steal and destroy but I came to bring life and life more abundantly.
The whole notion that God needs to fight anyone, an all powerful universe creating God doesn't need to fight, Jesus came to reveal God as Father. He did so by teaching, miracles and finally becoming a sacrifice for our sins. John 14:6-7.
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>>136070718
You dont have sideburns and two fridges for meat and dairy and you ignore serpent seed at all costs because it further affirms you are vicariously responsible for all deaths and sins. From a sexual standpoint. And Eve. The progenitor of this. No apples. Just the leader of the fallen angels in a talking snake tree. And her pussy. No male nor female. Centurion. David and jonathan. Ruth and naomi. All forms of eunuch born and otherwise. Anybody else in history. Do you kill nephilim? No. Get in 144K? No. You are grab ems. Aka sodomites. Then you layer satanic memes on top and elected an antichrist if not the antichrist. His degeneracy is not mine. That's all this is. Why so much focus on the gay thing again? YOURE WRONG YOU WALK BEFORE GOD HIMSELF
>>136070766
Having white skin is a sin. It doesn't say that! Imma still repeat it and eat your dick
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>>136064318
repent you faggot. You still have time.
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Praise our Lord Jesus Christ. The only person we should be listening to.
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>>136071125
Worry about YOURSELVES. You are not the people to give examples
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>>136070988

Skip forward to Revelation for Part Two.
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>>136071104
it's almost like Paul said that the traditional Jewish things like keeping meet in separate fridges and fasting were not needed to get close to the Lord. Christ's sacrifice absolved people of needing to follow those restrictions. Sodomy is your existence, you simply couldn't manage without in your life, freak.
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>>136064911
You can always tell the difference between the areligious individuals and the brain dead atheists and pagans.

While you can certainly contend that Biblical accounts of Jesus' life were a fabricated history, only an ignorant moron would contend that he 'didn't exist'. Roman records indicate that he did exist, and that he sentenced to crucifixion by Pontius Pilot. The acts of the Apostles, especially Paul and Peter, are much better documented. You can also deduce that, whatever or whoever influenced them, they were very invested in their work, to the point where they were willing to die for it.

Point is Jesus existed, and whoever he may be, his existence had an influence very few can claim to match.
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I've personally given plenty of examples and you've skimmed over or disregarded them. Typical Jewish debating tactics.
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>>136070788
>In the Old Testament, Jesus stormed the walls of Jericho with the Israelites.

He was a black man riding a Tyrannosaurus and wielding a plasma gun.

Yup.

Das rite.
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>>136070908
>Jews who saw Christ
>Talmud

What?

Sauce?
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>>136071583
So leviticus doesnt apply. Yes. Law is a curse. Christ's blood pays for the fall. I dont even believe in free will. Corinthians were Molech whores. I dont "as you lay" women at all or in their beds. For Molech again. You just ignoring David or dont wanna talk about that? The for this cause was worshipping reptiles. Take a look around you!!!! He coined his own words but nobody needs or wants to study that. He was describing pagan hookers. Period. And to this day. Im blamed for it and labelled by a cigar smoking kike who rely on females to tell them if they're kikes or not
>females shall not teach the religion
There's no more levitical priests anymore so who cares yes? You locking them away during their rags? No
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>>136071875
https://theshalomcenter.org/content/talmud-death-jesus
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>>136071583
Hi fags take my daughters. Strange flesh is not angels it is men. Oh hi family members of this gang rape. Half of you females. How are you fags reproducing without surrogacies? Why are we doing this if you're fags and can do to yourself. And where is san francisco?
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>>136071931
you're delusional, angry and confused. May god have mercy on your soul.

https://billygraham.org/answer/does-god-require-us-to-follow-the-old-testament-laws-about-not-eating-pork-and-other-kinds-of-meat-today/
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>>136072001
Ok where specifically in the Talmud did it mention Jesus?

Bart Ehrman, and separately Mark Allan Powell, state that the Talmud references are quite late (hundreds of years) and give no historically reliable information about the teachings or actions of Jesus during his life. Ehrman clarifies that the name "Son of Panthera" (Roman who allegedly was the seducer of Mary) was a tradition, as scholars have long recognized, that represented an attack on the Christian view, that he was the son of a virgin. In Greek, the term for virgin is parthenos, which is similar to panthera, implying that "son of panthera" is a pun on "son of a virgin".[45][46] The name "ben Stada", used for the same figure, is explained by Peter Schäfer as a reference to his mother's supposed adultery:

His mother's true name was Miriam, and “Stada” is an epithet which derives from the Hebrew/Aramaic root sat.ah/sete' (“to deviate from the right path, to go astray, to be unfaithful”). In other words, his mother Miriam was also called “Stada” because she was a sotah, a woman suspected, or rather convicted, of adultery."[47]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud#As_evidence_of_the_historical_Jesus
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>>136072210
You can follow the law perfectly and still be a fuck up. You fetishise things and then dare try and backhand the Messiah. It's evident. You're incorrogible
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>>136072064
>christ says fornication is a sin (Matthew 15:19)
>christ says marriage is between a man and a woman (Matthew 19:4-6)

Therefore since all sex outside of marriage are sinful, and it's impossible for two men to get married, homosexual acts are sinful.
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>>136072285
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/talmud/jesus.html
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>>136072387
>uses the born eunuchs passage whereby the adam and eve parable does not apply to them as example for why Christ is "wrong"
>fornication
There's an acronym on this and the bible. Learn it and memorise it. Sir flipp. Sexual slavery incest rape fornication lust idolatry pederasty prostitution
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>>136072285
the unintelligible ramblings of an AIDs patient, /pol/
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whoops wrong fag flag
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>>136072478
Did you even read that? It is a webpage about how the Talmud DOES NOT refer to Jesus. Lol.

This is claimed to be a reference to Jesus. However, this claim is patently ridiculous. The Mishnah was most likely referring to a famous person and, due to the lack of any practical ramifications, his name was left out by the compilers of the Mishnah. Plony is a biblical term used similar to John Doe today (cf. Ruth 4:1). The keeping of geneological records was very common in talmudic times so that regular Jews did not marry bastards and violate the biblical prohibition (Deuteronomy 23:3). Investigations into lineage and proclamations of bastardy were not uncommon (cf. Nehemiah 7:5; Talmud Kiddushin 70b-71a). There is no reason to assume that this refers to Jesus.

Gustaf Dalman rejects the assertion that this Mishnah refers to Jesus [Dalman, Die Worte Jesus (Liepzig: Hinrichs, 1898), p. 4 n. 2]. Similarly, RT Herford calls this suggestion "doubtful and probably unfounded" [Herford, "Jesus in Rabbinical Literature", The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, vol. 6 pp. 87-88]. Johann Maier calls it "odd speculation" [Maier, Jesus von Nazareth in der talmudischen Uberlieferung, p. 50]. All of this is cited approvingly by John P. Meier in his highly acclaimed A Marginal Jew, vol. I p. 108 n. 53. See also Avraham Korman's discussion in Zeramim Vekitot Beyahadut, pp. 348-349.
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>>136072616
Truvada. You show your fear by not telling him that to his face. So you pull up dead zomby lies from 1982 and less than -9000 clue of what's going on or what life is
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>>136072729
Too busy fapping
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>>136064318
>No one needs to be saved

Then shall it be
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>>136072789
depends how you interpret the article, makes pretty clear reference that Christ is Balaam
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>>136072902
You didnt need any excuses. Your head spinnin around and you pukin all over the place there bud? Maybe levitating and unleashing floods of period blood nearby elevators?
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>>136072951
As we shall soon see, Balaam is not a talmudic codeword for Jesus.

>Therefore, the passage above is referring solely to Balaam and not to Jesus.

Besides this fact, read the passage closely and you will see that Rav Papa is offering a parable that explains R. Yochanan's statement. It is impossible to read R. Yochanan's statement as referring to Jesus and Rav Papa's as referring to Jesus' mother.

Are you blind?
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>>136073176

it's a kikey book that is meant to give (((them))) plausible deniability. (((they))) hate Christ with all of their fiber.

http://fathersmanifesto.net/talmudbalaam.htm
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>>136073020
I don't understand your faggotry, but if you're saying something related to violence, then yes
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>>136073718
>>136073789
You call these rebuttals?
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>>136073489
So Jesus was apparently called the name for a villain and that means all reference to said villain are to him in the Talmud? I don't think so buddy.
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>>136063970
2000 years and all christcucks have to say about Jesus being based and against the jews is he flipped over some tables. Kek.

Meanwhile Mohammed conquered and decapitated entire jew tribes
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>>136063970
bless you anon- teach the word
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>>136074271
When the Arabs attack Israel God will help Israel and then the third temple will be destroyed. Again
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>>136064318
Are you this stupid, even the Jews and Muslims agree that he existed. The Romans even had it written down that they killed a jew who was ruining the stability in the region. You can take or leave the teachings of Jesus, but he was no myth.
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>>136075237
Bullshit. There is no evidence apart from Christians that he existed.
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