ITS HAPPENING - NO WALL CONFIRMED - THE WALL IS A GIMMICK

>>136019232
>unarchived shill

>https://washingtonpost com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/08/03/trump-admits-he-punked-his-supporters-on-mexico-paying-for-the-wall/?utm_term=.c57fae3fe283
https://archive.is/HSCOS
>http://thehill com/homenews/administration/345117-trump-asked-mexican-president-to-stop-publicly-saying-his-government
https://archive.is/zBddn

no one gives a fuck if mexico pays for the wall or not JUST BUILD IT FFS

No shit fucktard

>>136019232
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

fake news

>literally the fake news media

fake news

>>136019232
>shillers
>shillingpost
>theshill
>dailyshilly
gee I wonder what OP has to say
oh, it's something negative about Trump

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>>136019232
>It's what I campaigned on, but don't bring it up anymore in public it's killing me, it's the lowest of my priorities
Why is Trump such a liar?

>>136019232
...of course the wall is a gimmick, is that just occurring to you now?

how fucking stupid would you have to be to have believed that Mexico was going to pay for a giant wall..

>>136019752

He is an elitist NYC Billionaire Liberal that switched sides because democrats would not vote for him. What do you expect?

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>>136019552
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>>136019733
>muh fake news

>>136019283
You are doing gods work.

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>>136019932
This stupid. Trump voter stupid.

>>136020140
day of rake soon, friend

>>136019232
desu I don't care if Mexico doesn't pay

>>136020195
if only the entire world had spent a few years before the election pointing out all of the logical inconsistencies and obvious bullshit.

how desperate must his subjects be?

>>136020268
They will pay. it's gonna be half usa and half mexico
Believe me I'm Jew I know everything

This is actually best thing that could have happened. now he'll have to get the wall done just to spite the Jews who leaked this.

We gave Iran enough cash to build a wall thru California just to remove 1.5 minutes of Trumps stump speech.

Im pretty sure we can find enough money.

>>136020482
>>136020629
Even the 1.6 Billion proposed in the house is going to be shot to shit by democrats and moderates.

It is political suicide for Nieto to put a single dollar into it, even the idea of this phone-call was paraded in the Mexican media as him bowing to Trump.


There will be no wall. There will be a few additions to the Bush Border fence and that will be all.

>>136020464
Mexico will pay for the wall. These people know nothing. They might not directly hand over a bag of money, but they will pay for the wall.

Only idiots thought there was going to be a wall.

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>>136020371
Someone like President Trump™ occupying the Oval Office was inevitable. I don't think Trump has been a miserable failure but it makes me lament the intelligence of a people who would vote for a man who cries out "Mexico will pay"and "ten feet higher".

>>136019232
At what point did he say he wasn't going to have a wall???

The point is -
Trade difference and taking out the gangs is the most important thing for Trump
The wall makes these things easier to negotiate and is a good meme to get him elected.
AND if he doesn't get his way he still builds it and taxes the border
What's not to love it was genius!

>>136020835

Explain the mechanism by which the US will extort Mexico for the wall without any economic repercussions.

Take your time. We can wait.

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All part of the plan

>>136019232
Yesterday an anon said that today 10am EST shit would hit the fan. Was he right?

>>136021002
I have no idea how you can say stupid shit when Trump is saying America, and will probably say the West as a whole by the end of his 2nd term. We just need to make sure w only vote in people who will support him or he will not be able to accomplish everything. You can talk about intelligence or whatever, but Trump is what we need now. When he said it was our last chance, he was serious. If Clinton would have won, it would have been over for us in more ways than one.

>>136019232
According to your links it claims he said that Mexico won't pay for the wall but the US will. It never says no wall. I really don't give a fuck who pays for it.

>>136021129
I do not know.

>>136021129
Remittance taxes, tariffs, visa fees, leverage in NAFTA negotiations, etc. A billion ways to compel Mexico to cooperate without hurting the bottom line of anybody who isn't a Jewish banker.

>>136019232
Nobody ever even care if Mexico is going to pay for it or not, we want the wall. And apprehended cartel money will go to it.

Sage for the JIDF kike.

pol is a disaster today.

>>136021215

>Gives absolutely no shits what people say about him

>Trump


It is like you have not heard the man speak

>>136021365


At least you were honest, thanks for that


>>136021388

All of which will result in a trade-war with Mexico, and despite what /pol/ tells you: Just because the US is more powerful does not mean they automatically win a trade-war.


See: Canada-US Lumber dispute

>people who really don't like Trump and have been lying about him since day one, and have gotten all info completely wrong, are now claiming Trump doesn't want to build a wall
Really made me think
Clearly these people are looking out for my interests and they would never lie to me

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>>136019232
>when your drip drip blows up in your face again and you have to publish "liberal" world leaders mocking your king nigger
>Australian pm literally calls your king nigger a chimp and mocks his "noble" prize (washpoo shitskin and female writers literally don't know how to spell "Nobel", they think it's a nobility prize).

>>136021129
>Take your time. We can wait.

We all know this. Unemployed McJobdegree JIDF kikes.

Sage.

>>136019232
Read the art of the deal and you may begin to barely fathom what he could be possibly doing with these phone calls.

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>>136019232
why do you newfags keep falling for bait threads?
I used to defend you guys when people would bitch about reddit being here, a sign our culture is growing, but you faggots refuse to fucking learn
Go back to where you came from newfags

>>136021002
We couldn't afford Clinton, idiot. I would rather take this "chaos" and stupidity than organized and calculated evil. Did you forget that there were 2 options and a choice had to be made? Not everyone who voted for him agrees with him on everything. The fact that you are so willing to generalize shows that you are a lefty. Stop trying to ruin nations with your shit ideology.

>>136021620

>The leaks are all fake and demonstrably incorrect
>But we need to crack down on these criminal leakers! They are hurting the country


Pick a line of logic, trying to stride both makes you (and Trump) look like a moron.

>ten feet higher
>big, beautiful wall
trumpfags are retarded

>>136021823

>There was no moderate Republican to vote for in the Primary


Wut

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>can't accomplish a single campaign pledge

>>136019232
Are you retarded? All this says is that Mexico isn't going to pay for it which we already knew.

>>136019232
>MUH WALL IS FAKE
Trump literally told that if mexico won't pay, he will destroy mexico in a trade war because of the retarded US representatives.
k, saged

>>136019232
lol

THIS IS A SLIDE THREAD

GET IN HERE FAGGOTS

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>>136021831
That doesn't even make sense, you retarded /leftypol/ shill.
Even if the information reported by fucking Buzzfeed isn't true, that doesn't mean the white house should be ok with butthurt insiders leaking shit to Buzzfeed.
The Russia shit is completely fake, and it is ''hurting the country''.

Anyone with an iq greater than a glass of water knew that Mexico was not going to pay for a wall.

>>136021949
What about the supreme court then?

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>>136019232
>pls stop saying u won't pay, it makes me luk bad. pls stop.

>Cruz plan to repatriate money from the cartels.

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>>136019232
>WaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHshington Post said so.

>HAHAHAHEEHEEHill reported it.

>Dailymail.co.ukAHAHAHAHHHAlil

>>136022053
>/leftypol/ shill.

Those terms, you don't even know what they mean do you?

>Even if the information reported by fucking Buzzfeed isn't true

Your stance is literally based on the truthfulness or lack thereof of the reporting being done:

>lying about him since day one, and have gotten all info completely wrong, are now claiming Trump doesn't want to build a wall


Or are you so moronic you don't even know the crux of your own argument?


If the leaks from the WH were a lie they could simply post the proper transcripts and drastically embarrass these outlets. The have not, they are not and they will not because the leak is true.


So fuck off and get your talking points together.

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>>136020371
>Arrg I'd give me last doubloon fer all the seven seas te study tha landlubber Trump afore th election!

>If it's gold ye be lookin for I'll give ye some on reddit ya bilgerat! See me reddit spacin'?

>>136022126

Everyone hates Cruz, any provision he puts forward will be shot to shit just on impulse.

>>136021558
Your avocado trade wars do not scare me
I'm not afraid of more expensive avocados
I don't even like avocados

Fuck yo guac

>>136019232
so are we getting the wall or not wtf

>>136022334
Yep, here comes the reddit spacing.
You have to go back.

>>136022629
>Your avocado trade wars do not scare me


This is the crux of stupidity for the people who believed Trump.


>Avacado trade wars
>Doesn't understand how much manufacturing and assembly is done in Mexico across dozens of industries.

Yep, these complex geo-political issues will be solved by tweeting and playing the strong-man. Any day now Nieto will willingly commit political suicide for Trump to look good.


AAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaany day now...

Hey it's WaPo sourced. Most bullshit starts there, gets widely reported, and dies.

>>136022087
How did he hold up Obama's nominee while being a presidential candidate?

>>136022834

One day you will come up with a coherent argument based on fact or even reason. Maybe we will frame it and put it on the fridge on that great day.

>>136022051
I hate you

>>136022919
It's actually directly in the transcript:

>TRUMP The only thing I will ask you though is on the wall, you and I both have a political problem. My people stand up and say, “Mexico will pay for the wall” and your people probably say something in a similar but slightly different language. But the fact is we are both in a little bit of a political bind because I have to have Mexico pay for the wall – I have to. I have been talking about it for a two year period...They are going to say, “who is going to pay for the wall, Mr. President?” to both of us, and we should both say, “we will work it out.” It will work out in the formula somehow. As opposed to you saying, “we will not pay” and me saying, “we will not pay.”

>TRUMP Because you and I are both at a point now where we are both saying we are not to pay for the wall. From a political standpoint, that is what we will say. We cannot say that anymore because if you are going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet with you guys anymore because I cannot live with that. I am willing to say that we will work it out.... But you cannot say anymore that the United States is going to pay for the wall. I am just going to say that we are working it out. Believe it or not, this is the least important thing that we are talking about, but politically this might be the most important talk about. But in terms of dollars – or pesos – it is the least important thing.

>PENA NIETO This is what I suggest, Mr. President – let us stop talking about the wall... my position has been and will continue to be very firm saying that Mexico cannot pay for that wall.

>TRUMP But you cannot say that to the press. The press is going to go with that and I cannot live with that. You cannot say that to the press because I cannot negotiate under those circumstances.

>>136019232
The funny thing is, psychotic leftists would force Trump to have to go full on Hitler to build the wall. At least in the San Diego and El Paso sections.

>latte liberal boomers will make human chains to block equipment
>antifa will start blowing up pipe bombs and shit

Trump would either have to let the very vocal minority feel like they've gained a huge victory by standing up for "the will of the people" or he's gonna have to start bashing commie skulls in. Personally, I'd love to see the latter outcome and would consider joining the national guard just for the opportunity, but itd look really bad for him

Realistically, I don't think the wall could be done without Trump having to literally go fascist. It might even be the catalyst for a second civil war. And as funny/awesome as that may be, it's just not gonna happen

>>136019232
this is obviously 39847598735D chess

>>136023209
>psychotic leftists would force Trump to have to go full on Hitler to build the wall.
>Forced to go full on Hitler
>Forced

Or, and this is some real next-level out of the box shit: He could stop lying about the wall.

>>136019232
Pretty sure it's under construction now. Hell I could even look at it on Google maps probably. Democrats are pulling every string to stop it, but it's already being built.

>>136019283
>>136020153

You realize that crying "shill" like a cuck doesn't disprove anything in the OP, right?

You realize that defending trump no matter what he says or does makes YOU a shill, right?

>>136023361
he never said he isn't building the wall, and that guy's post was about how liberals would stop the CONSTRUCTION of it. not the payment, you fucking retard.

>>136019232
Its happening. OP is getting SRS.

>>136023209
>Trump would either have to let the very vocal minority feel like they've gained a huge victory by standing up for "the will of the people"

Most people in America don't want the wall dumbass. From Trump's personal favorite poll that he cites all time time:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/july_2017/most_voters_say_no_to_border_wall

>>136023361
So if he was lying about the wall, shouldn't you guys be on the cusp of a 'wtf I love Trump nao?' moment? Yet you aren't, why is that?

>>136022087

>performed a basic task that any other president would have accomplished and is basically a job requirement

wow amazing

>>136019283
You're the shill you enormous faggot.

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>>136022834

>muh 4chan vs reddit website wars!!!11 XD XD

SAD

>>136023510
>he never said he isn't building the wall

I never said that he said he isn't, he has been flooding the zone with bullshit about it in terms of funding and building from day one. He should stop lying about that.

>that guy's post was about how liberals would stop the CONSTRUCTION of it. not the payment, you fucking retard.

I literally never mentioned the payment aspect in the post you are citing. Are you drunk?

>>136023069

They're not saying what you seem to think they're saying.

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>>136019232
This is a slide thread to change the subject away from Wasserman-Schults and her high treason in funding a Muslim Brotherhood spy (Imran Awan) who sold intel to foreign governments.

Sage and report!

>>136022919
Actually everything the WaPo reports ends up getting confirmed. By the white house itself most of the time.

>>136019232
The Wall has already been built you idiot. It was never about brick and mortar, it was an idea above all else, a movement.

>>136023589
>shouldn't you guys be on the cusp of a 'wtf I love Trump nao?'


Who the fuck are "you guys" in this case?

I am a fiscal-conservative who doesn't want a trade-war with mexico over a fucking multi-billion dollar project in the middle of no-where that literally no-one in that area wants or needs.

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>>136019232
Didn't Congress just approve a bunch of funding for the wall? Funding that had been there for years btw.

>>136021388
>t-these are hate facts

>>136019387
>JUST BUILD IT FFS

I always thought he should announce he is adding border security to the limit the budget allows until the wall can be built so a wall of defense like none other before

>>136023919

>Jokes on Mexico, I was only pretending to build a wall

F U L L - R E T A R D

>>136023919
>The Wall has already been built you idiot. It was never about brick and mortar, it was an idea above all else, a movement.
No it wasn't you fucking tard. He flat out said he wanted a "beautiful concrete wall".

Without the wall, the Mexicant's will just start crossing the border again in 2024.

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>>136020464
Are traps gay? pic related, i don't want to discuss it any further.

>>136022919

it's basically a primary source--the words come right out of trump's mouth. read the fucking article you worthless cuck.

>>136023920
>I don't give a damn about the browning of America, I care about shekels
Benny, is that (((you)))?

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>>136021388
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

>>136020140
>muh
>not an argument!

>>136023919

This may be the most extreme mental gymnastics ive seen thus far

So "10 feet taller" is also just an idea?

>>136021558
>All of which will result in a trade-war with Mexico
So? Mexico's economy is totally reliant on the US buying their agricultural produce whereas our economy is on no way reliant on the Mexican market.

>>136023992

Only funding that has been approved so-far is money already ear-marked to reinforce and maintain the Bush Border fence. For areas of the fence where trucks crashing it is a problem they will put bollards.

The 1.6 Billion to start the actual wall is in an appropriation measure that will be fought over in the House soon. There is already confirmed major opposition to it.

>>136024107
>what is metaphor

>>136024129
>the words come right out of trump's mouth
So you've heard the audio?

>>136023920
>((fiscal conservative))

Ah, so a border wall interferes with your planned obsolescence of the white working class in favor of retarded foreigners who will work for a tenth of their value and don't mind living in squalor? Eat shit, nigger. There's more to life than money.

>>136022926
that was mcconnel

>>136024215
>b-but my based brown lawn mower and toilet cleaner

>>136024107
>Without the wall, the Mexicant's will just start crossing the border again in 2024.
LEL i'm crossing it tomorrow faggot, stay in your moms basement.

>>136024178

America is already browning, none of this wall shit will make a dent. At.All.

Put the money into ICE, of which there is almost no opposition for the expansion of the department.

>>136019988
>Forgets that he has literal snakes in his den
I agree, drain the fucking swamp first, starting with this one.

ITT Drumpfcucks are still in denial.

>>136023920
>I am a fiscal-conservative
How is allowing predatory foreign and transnational interests to pillage and manipulate your national economy in anyway conservative? Free market ideology is liberal, not conservative.

>>136019232
The left is more concerned with the wall than anyone

We got actually need a wall just enforcement. The wall is such a minor thing only total retarded hicks and the other stupid half of society, liberal progressives, care about the wall

>>136023507
>doesnt know about nordbro bot
>reddit spacing
>capital lletter at the begining of each sentence
>summerfagg

reddit pls go

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>>136023992
The Departement of HOmeland securities estimates the wall will cost $21.6 billion. Congress approved $1.6 billion of American taxpayer money for the wall.

>>136023591
>accomplishes campaign pledge, despite you arguing to the contrary
>her der its his job doesn't count
kill yourself nigger

>>136024215

>Trade-War with a major trading partnet
>So?


That there book learnin' didn't do you no good did it?

Go look into what is made/processed/manufactured in Mexico before talking about it. You will make yourself look infinitely less stupid.

>>136023507
>responding to a bot

nice job exposing yourself idiotic redditor

WE JUST KEEP ON WINNING
(disregard no border wall)
WE JUST KEEP ON WINNING
(disregard Obamacare is still law of the land)
WE JUST KEEP ON WINNING
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WE JUST KEEP ON WINNING
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WE JUST KEEP ON WINNING
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>>136023507
>>136023607

>>136023507
You do realise that Nordbot is just an archiving bot you dumb burger.

It's not calling anyone a shill in particular. It's just colloquial use for humourous reasons of a term common on /Pol/.

>>136023591
That's a retarded statement picking a good Supreme Court candidate is important they have to get through the nomination process and actually vote the way you expect

Look at bushes nominations who ended up being not actually conservative

Even Obamas pick keagan has ended up being less liberal than liberals expected

>>136023794
you said trump could just stop lying instead of "being forced to go full on Hitler to build the wall." but how would saying america's paying for it stop him having to deal with liberals preventing the CONSTRUCTION, you absolute fucking retard? learn how to read stupid fuck

>>136023507
Everyone look at this faggot and laugh..

>>136024395
>>136024264


I love that the go-to talking point on this board is:

>You don't want a worthless wall in exchange for trade with mexico and billions of dollars! YOU MUST WANT THE US TO BE MEXICO 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO


Read what I said earlier. There are much more effective and relevant things to put the money and political currency in rather than a wall-to-nowhere

>>136024543
>>136024597
>libs come here and call Trump out for being a fucking idiot
SHILLS SHILL ALERT SHILLBLUE
>a bot that literally archives links to liberal sites so they don't get ad money
lol who cares it's funny to see libs get angry

>>136024373
>60% increase in deportations
>75% decrease in border crossings (will be 100% by next year now that Democrat bribes, oops I mean welfare, is being taken away)
>lower tax rates cause increase in white birth rates (Obamacare tax already axed)
>muslims successfully banned in a 9-0 SC judgement
>Jewish atheist nihilism losing its chicness
>Hollywood dying
>w-white genocide is c-coming, Drumpfkins

>>136024215
3rd trading partner must mean something other than fucking guac...

I wonder how badly libcucks are going to shit all over themselves when the wall is inevitably built. Goodness liberals are so pathetic.

>>136019232
Everyone knows Trump lies about everything, but since he lies with confidence instead of giving weasely politician answers where they just dodge answers to stuff they don't want to answer, people don't care.

It's an amazing thing to watch.

>>136024686

There is this weird thing where I said he is lying on the matter of the wall being constructed at all AND lying about it being funded as separate but related issues.

I see that you are too stupid to separate the two points.

>>136024806

>America isn't browning


Do-hohoho, and they talk about the liberals being in a bubble

>>136024746
Nobody cares, cuck. Wall is being built even if you think it's inefficient.

>>136019232
The senate just approved 1.6b for ground work on a portion of the wall though. It's a process that takes time, why are you shilling like retards?
You do realize that it will be built either way in a while, which will only bolster Trump's stance even here on /pol/ because of your failed shilling, right?

>>136021942
>implying I voted for trump in the primary

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>>136019232
I don't care how it's payed for, just fucking build it.

>>136024963

Yep, any day now. Just keep waiting.

>>136023591
>Gorsuch instead of that cuck that Obama appointed
>basic task
Then why was your side so assblasted about it?

>>136023069
...and there are ppl who are so dense that they think this means the wall isn't getting built?

>You hear that, Trump supporters? That applause line that Trump used with such gusto for basically his entire campaign — “Build that wall,” and “Who's going to pay for it? (Crowd response: MEXICO!)"? It was all vote-bait, red meat for voters who didn't know that it was completely impractical and would never happen.
this is journalism

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>>136024533
>people still replying to UNflag fag
Trump has done a better being president than any shit stained leftist politician ever could. Keep crying you commie cuck

>>136023069
lol THIS is what the "master dealmaker" could come up with?

>>136025037
Yep. When President Trump was first elected he told his supporters to "relax and let us go to work for you" and I am. Stay salty and losing, my friend.

Oh and remember, PRESIDENT Trump.

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No fucking shit, sherlock.

If you believe that the wall is going to happen or that it's efficient at stopping immigrants, go get a brain.

Your government can't even pass a healthcare bill.

>>136024653
>picking SCOUTS candidates based on how they vote

Pick them so they uphold the constitution you literal nigger

>>136024951
California =/= America. Also cuckold porn isn't real. Maybe try traveling the country and see just how futile your "browning" efforts have been.
>b-but muh collapsing, feces-filled cities in muh metropolitan areas with homeless people everywhere
Yea, nobody cares about your nigger containment areas.

>>136025006
>The senate just approved 1.6b for ground work on a portion of the wall though


House Approved the spending 7 days ago, last I checked it has not been Senate approved yet.

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>Trump: You gotta stop telling people that the wall won't work. The wall works for everyone. You know, you look at Israel – Israel has a wall and everyone said do not build a wall, walls do not work — 99.9 percent of people trying to come across that wall cannot get across and more. Bibi Netanyahu told me the wall works.

>>136024746
>expand ICE because no one will oppose it!
Meanwhile in the real world, Trump is already doing that and leftists are crying shoah left and right. And talk about inefficiency - why hire thousands more ICE personnel indefinitely and pay for their pensions and shit when a wall would be a bigger up front cost but would ultimately be cheaper in the long run?

>>136024749
Do you seriously have a problem with nor-bot?

>>136025037
>haha drumpfkins, you jut keep on waiting
>wall is literally being built as we type
>b-but muh leaked convo from February

>>136025178

>Crying about a flag


Oh and Trump has not only been terrible at helping his agenda: He has stood in its way time and again.

>Commie Cuck


Again: The narrative here is T_D tier retarded.

The wall is a waste of everyone's time. Just like Bush's Border fence was.

Trump could make Mexico 'pay for' the wall by pulling out of NAFTA and placing tariffs on Mexican imports and taxes on remittances.

Of course he won't, but theoretically he still could.

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>>136019232
wow. Whata a surprise. Trump lied. Who would have guess.

>>136023069
Lol, President Trump is telling queen paco over there that if he continues down this obstinate path, he's going to rape mexico.

>>136025250

>The liar told me to sit and wait and not hold him to his word >I listened and so it is fine if he lied


If you say so.

>punked
Journalist diploma declared invalid, back to school.

>>136025111
>imagine being this absolutely ass ravaged

>>136019232
>reuters
>wapo
>thehill
>dailymail
Fuck dude, that's some shill shit.

>>136025507
>this fucking meme still floating around

>>136025569
Stay salty, cuckmaster. I wonder if you'll ever wake up and stop being such a loser? Nah. You'll probably kill yourself soon.

>>136025316

>The statistics that say that America is moving towards a Minority-Majority country are all made up liberal lies

Okay Cletus, just keep fucking that chicken.

>>136025307
You are a literal idiot my goal is how the uphold the constitution, in modern political parlance that means conservatively, not everyone is trying to uphold the constitution

But that wasn't even the argument the argument was that picking a Supreme Court justice isn't important.

You have now brought up some separate argument to obfuscate like a fuckface

>>136025250
These faggots suffered the most humiliating political loss in history, even worse, they have no god, family, morality, etc. so politics is their whole identity.

As a result everyday is hell under trump because it represents a failure and humiliation of their very identity. Thus, they are in constant need of stories false or not, exaggerated or not, etc. to help shield them from the unmitigated reality that they were defeated and Trump is president. The msm is just selling a fix to junkies basically, it also helps that it kept the DNC leadership from being fired. In any normal org, a failure of 2016 election levels would have been like instant career death. In the whacky world of the DNC they just make excuses and keep their jobs. It's only possible because their cowardly supporters are weak and need a way out.

It's frustrating but a good thing- they cannot admit defeat and will continue to fail rather than correct this issues. They will continue to alienate whites with extremism and lead to white tribalism- something their entire job was to basically avoid. Fucking pathetic.

>>136025735
>(((polls)))
>implying demographics are permanent
>literally arguing against his own logic
W E W

>>136025345
>Trump is already doing that and leftists are crying shoah left and right.


Good for them, I just reported someone to ICE yesterday.

>a wall would be a bigger up front cost but would ultimately be cheaper in the long run?

Because of the complete lack of return on investment you just cited in my argument. Those ICE agents will actually hunt down and deport people.

>>136025440
Yep. It's like a representation of the idiotic right: they scream and bitch and cry and BAAW about shilling that doesn't exist while simultaneously applauding an actual shillbot that favors right-wing websites and aims to hurt left-wing ones.

Why bother lying and saying you have morals and any kind of ethics?

>>136025472
>wall is literally being built as we type

This is the level of delusion on here at this point.

Christ, /pol/, don't you understand that this was the plan? Libs are right, the wall won't work, it won't do shit to stop illegal immigration or drugtrade. The only people who wanted it were dipshits with zero logic. But those people are the footsoldiers for whats to come; the wall was a monumental promise that democrats absolutely have to stonewall. The promise will fall through because it will be halted at every end. Its a topic to further polarize the right into eventual rebellion.

>>136020140
>literally fake news
the lying press will finally have their mouths shut for good when we round them up and execute them in the streets, and shills like you will be joining them. Just wait, leaf.

>>136026018
>the lying press will finally have their mouths shut for good when we round them up and execute them in the streets, and shills like you will be joining them. Just wait, leaf.
said the increasingly delusional conspiracy nut for the 718th time

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>>136019232
>/POL/ LARPERS BTFO
https://youtu.be/OUEeAzl9Weo

>>136025684

Yep, totes got me. You just keep sucking Trump's dick. He will make a place in his God-Empire just for a snowflake like you.

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>>136024740
Fuck you beat me to it
>>136023507
You stupid, stupid faggot

>>136025877
>implying demographics are permanent

Are you on meth or something? The demographic trend is confirmed towards more diversity, that is not a permanent demo. It is by definition a shift in demographic.


Really: Is your IQ even double digit?

>>136021558
Remittances are worth more to the Mexican economy than their oil industry, which is top 10 in the world by the way. We can cripple their economy by cutting off Paco's loot and then deporting him and his family. The Mexican government will be scrambling to responsibly care for their citizens with this artificial safety net cut off. There's no way for Mexico to win a trade war when they need us more than we need them.

>>136019387

but you wanted to mexico pay it. what happened to you cletus?

>>136019232
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

>>136024201
We're cutting off your allowance, taconigger.

>>136026018
If its fake then Trump should come out and say it. The only problem would be if its real and he says its fake. Mexico probably has transcripts and recordings of the conversation. Basically we'd get cucked by Mexico of all places.

>>136025993
Unfortunately for you, it's literally in the design process and already has startup funds. But here I am expecting a communist to understand how business works and how structures are built. In your world, the Eurocrats snap thier fingers and the worker ants just start building.

But hey, you got a conversation from February. A phone call, of all things! This means the wall won't happen, Trump is a kike and I should kill myself because Wapoo wins again.

>>136026334
You'll pay for it in the cost of people that get sent back over and collect benefits and commit crimes.

Enjoy, Paco.

>>136025924
Its not shilling anything. Its just an archiver. Why would you willingly give ad revenue to publications that actively seek to destroy your way of life?

>ethics
For you to bring that up is laughably absurd

>>136025993
Repairs and upgrades are being completed while prototypes and contracts are sought, land is obtained, and environmental regulations are navigated.

>>136025875
Trump was singularly attractive to you all because of muh liberal tears. Stop retconning the past you sniveling little bitch

>>136026307
>Remittances are worth more to the Mexican economy than their oil industry


[Citation Needed]


Beyond that: I see quite a lot of:

"The US will do this in the Trade-War and Mexico will accept it openly and the trade-war will end" fantasy posting here.


Yep, there will be no response from Mexico, despite the amount of manufacturing/production /processing the Mexican industries do for America.

>>136023507
Hello lefty, hows your echo chamber?

>>136026307
>>136026399
>He still think that USA will fuck Mexico's economy

K u k

The wall is a 15 billion dollar billboard that says "we aren't fucking around with immigration anymore." We would just put up a 10k dollar sign but no one would take it seriously.

Mexicans understand that a new government is in town and it's maybe not worth the trip. That's why border crossings have already gone down massively. When they see that wall, not only does it put an additional physical barrier, but it sends a message that says "you are breaking the law if you come here and we are serious about enforcing it." If this country has a wall, I wonder what sort of enforcement is on the other side?"

It would cost half of NASA's Tang budget every year or like 1.5% of the stimulus? What's the fucking problem?

>>136026018
Shut the fuck up. You're not doing shit

>>136026416
>this can't hurt Trump, nothing can hurt Trump, I need Trump cummies!

>>136026445
>biased archiver is just an archiver, now keep clicking those breitbart links!
Die in a fire.

doesnt look like hes saying that, hes talking about mexico not paying for the wall and how he wants to keep the promise

>>136019232
>all these slide threads with hundreds of replies
this board is kill

>>136019232
I would gladly pay higher taxes for a wall

Better yet, stop giving welfare niggers money and use it to build the wall

Better yet force all the welfare niggers to go build the wall if they want to eat food

>>136024455
>$1.6 billion of American taxpayer money for the wall.

lmao. per month or what?

>>136024533
>A-America can n-n-never produce those goods, e-even though th-th-they did in the past!
Shoo UN shill.

>>136019283
Good job mate. Keep it up

>>136026300
You are arguing that a demographic shift is currently happening and that demographic shift is possible. You are simultaneously arguing that a demographic shift can't happen and that it's impossible.

This is what you are literally arguing.

>>136026416
>it's literally in the design process and already has startup funds.


Designs have been sought for many projects that died in the crib. It does not equal building.

>already has startup funds

The 1.6 Billion A) Did not come from Congress B) Has not gone through the Senate

>>136021318
Trump panders to his base with completely unrealistic and ridiculous expectations

>>136023507

hello summerfag. please lurk more before you post again thx

>>136026597
>biased against publications that seek to destroy the western way of life.
Like I said.

Why is /leftypol/ so desperate lately?

>>136019232
Of course they will pay for the wall when theyre not sending our money across the border

>>136025920
But presumably if they are doing their job well eventually there'll stop being as many tacos to catapult across the rio grande. Which is great, but like any government agency they'll never downscale as needed. They'll probably end up being another shitty gestapo/big brother agency as they run out of real shit to do. Hassling Americans for checking out RT under a future Democrat administration or something.

And honestly, even if the wall ultimately is pork, it's a vanity project I support way more than a couple dozen faggot bridges or Jewish community centers that that money would likely be wasted on instead.

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>>136026437

ok cletus.

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>>136019932
>Mexico won't pay for wall.

Mexico paid for wall on their southern border you fucking Social Religion brainwashed shill faggot

>>136026445
>Repairs and upgrades are being completed
Yes, on the Bush Border Fence. Which was funded and agreed upon literal years ago. Of which there has been no net effect on immigration. At All.

>while prototypes and contracts are sought, land is obtained, and environmental regulations are navigated.

So what you are telling me is the wall is not currently being built and Mexico isn't paying, good to know.

>>136026597
>I have no argument, but I have a conversation from February in which Trump didn't demand a bag of pesos on his desk by the morning
W E W

>>136026334
That was just appeal to the moderates, "I guess it doesn't really matter if it's there or not if we aren't paying for it" but in case you haven't noticed, moderates don't exist anymore.

>>136025507
>Drop free trade with 3rd largest trade partner

It’s a bold move Cotton, let’s see if it pays off.

>>136019232
You all just don't get it.
The only to beat the fucking Luciferians (that
includes all progressives) is to kill these people.
You're not getting your wall.
You're going to have a war with Russia.
Nothing is going to change because we have
no control over our own government,
and none of you will ever get off your asses
to fight for this country.

>>136026524
>The Bank of Mexico says money sent home by Mexicans overseas hit nearly $24.8 billion last year, overtaking oil revenues as a source of foreign income for the first time
Source: https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2016-02-02/mexico-remittances-nearly-248b-in-2015-topping-oil-income
>Mexico is the world's 12th largest oil producer
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production

Easily searchable information on your favorite search engine. You are wholly uninformed on this issue. Please stop arguing, shill.

>No wall confirmed
>Each article says that Mexico won't pay for the wall, not that the wall won't be built
sage

>>136024894
despite all his private conversations being leaked there is still 0 evidence that the wall isn't being built. congress have already committed 1 billion to it.

>>136020268
>ancap
>wants to waste billions of tax dollars on a wall that will not stop illegal immigration
The cognitive dissonance is too real.

>>136019232
None of these links have any indication that the wall won't be built

Officially a bait shill thread, sage and report

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>>136026719
>he thinks republicans are going to vote against the wall

>>136026654

>A-America can n-n-never produce those goods

Do you understand the concept of a trade-war?

The EU could produce it's own energy """some day""" but that does not stop their reliance on Russia for it today.

Hypothetical futures are nice when you are dealing with a trade-war on the ground now.

>>136026399
>We're cutting off your allowance, taconigger.
Do that and we will fucking open another train line to deliver niggers from the caribean, central america and apefrica to your side of the river, you think you can start shit on your doorstep? think again puta.

>>136019232
>the flag
never fails

>>136020835
>they may not actually pay for it, but they will pay for it
Lolwut

>>136026524
>Trying to argue on a subject when you don't even know basic facts like remittances
https://www.forbes.com/sites/doliaestevez/2016/05/16/remittances-supersede-oil-as-mexicos-main-source-of-foreign-income

>despite the amount of manufacturing/production /processing the Mexican industries do for America
You mean American industries that move to Mexico for cheap labor

>>136026710
>You are simultaneously arguing that a demographic shift can't happen and that it's impossible.


No, there is your straw-man and it is a stupid one at that.


I am informing you of the fact that the current demographic shift is moving towards more diversity in the US, this shift is continuing now and until you cite a reliable source showing it being reversed then you are full of shit.

>>136019232
Friendly reminder that THE AWAN BROTHERS, their wives, and friend all say "hello!!".

>>136021949
Lmao are you retarded? Trump rolled back Obamas entire legacy 6 weeks into his 1st term. Obamacare is literally on fire so the longer we wait to repeal Obamacare the worse it make Obamacare look.

>>136027200
Profit denial
https://archive.is/qRcyt

>>136026898
>no net effect on immigration. At All.
Source

>so what you're telling me...
Why do Lefty's always feel the need to explain things back to someone in a condescending and untrue way?
I said that 6 months after the president promising to build a wall took office we have entered the advanced planning stages of the massive construction project he promised while undertaking a large scale upkeep project on the construction site to be.
I didn't say anything about payments or mexico at all.

Fuck it. Time to start bombing Mexico.

>>136027082

>He thinks republicans are going to vote for Trumpcare

>>136027270
thank you based nordbro

>>136027089
Stop Reddit-posting. You don't believe in leverage. We have an infinite amount of force that we can apply on the Mexican economy, at any time, that would cripple their elite class without any due recourse from their part. The EU doesn't have any leverage in their relationships with Russia because they have nothing that they currently supply to Russia that they can meaningfully take away without being simultaneously screwed by Russia.
>>136027121
That's already happening lmfao, and we're committed to putting that to an end. And they'll get gunned down at the Trump wall once it's built. With nowhere else to go, they'll run rampant in your streets. Enjoy being the Brazil of North America.

>>136027082
RNC and DNC are constantly broke because of 501(c)3 organizations dominating the campaign finance realm now.

>>136026963
wow Eesti calm down man.

>>136019232
I thought Trump already secured funding for a wall.

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>>136026642
No, $1.6 billion total. A $20 billion shortfall.

>>136021127
>ancap
>promoting a multibillion dollar government project
Again, cognitive dissonance

>>136026830
>They'll probably end up being another shitty gestapo/big brother agency as they run out of real shit to do.


Ah, an actual sane argument. I agree, which is why I would suggest ICE be entirely rebuilt for the task and then changed when the task is at greater completion.

>>136027335
They're going to have to vote for something once he forces them into Obamacare.

Cuck a doodle doo, a lamest duck are yuuu....

Murica... is cucked. Say good bye, lalalalaaaala-la-laaaaa


Jujst read the secret report, CIA & Fart-B-I all know eeet, so.... they will sell him the big war, and poof!

USA is gone :)

Been saying it for 3 years now, haha. I'm a GENIUS. Maybe I should charge for this stuff.... POLSTRADAMUS! HE KNOWS ALL

>>136027476
>entirely rebuilt
Why?

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>>136027381
>implying mexico isn't the brazil of NA already...

UNA DELICIA

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>>136026307
>Eesti thinks he can cripple mexican economy

>>136026719
Stop importing low wage slave labor, you might have to pay a little more at the store but it will be better for everyone.

I'm literally about to go report someone to ICE thanks to your shilling. Everytime you cocksuckers keep banging on about muh imaginary borders it lights a fire in me to be personally responsible for a deportation. You remember that fagaroni- you are just motivating me to move from wasting my time shitposting to actual efforts in the deportation process. In a way you've unwittingly done a duty to the American people. Maybe the first time in your life you could say that?

>>136027227
>I am informing you of the fact that the current demographic shift is moving towards more diversity in the US,
And I am informing you of measures that have been taken to prevent this, and you ignored them for a smarmy comeback that ended making you contradict yourself. You are a boob, and you should feel ashamed. See you when the 2020 census comes out. Hang tight until then while I jerkoff to every deportation sob story I read on your shitty Besos blogs.

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>>136027418
Hold me back, my Baltic brother, before I unleash unbridled fury on this globalist shill!

>>136027446
>>136027551


AAARRIIIIBAAA

>>136021411
>nobody ever cared if Mexico paid for the wall
Backpedaling hard.

>>136021002
>Over 1/10 of people you know has an IQ bellow 84

Damn...

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>>136027574
kek

>>136027335
>Trumpcare
Can you liberal faggits try anything original? Nobody expected, or even wanted them to pass a healthcare bill. The only people who care about that are liberals who think it equals a loss from Trump.

You might not know this, but Trump killed Ocare mandates his first day in office. Ocare is toothless and bereft of funding. It is over, move on.

>>136019232
>reuters
>wapo
>thehill
>dailymail
this is either that shill canadian or that faggot ukrainian
next time just use shareblue's link

The meme wall won't happen

Remember when Trump said that he would jail Hillary?

Remember when Drumpf said that NAFTA was the worst deal ever and he would cancel it?

>>136027397
>RNC is broke
Um no sweetie, they're pulling in record donations thanks to Trump.

>>136027446
>the wall will cost $20 billion
What's your source? CBO? Lol

>>136027874
>t. low iq

>>136019232
He's acc been really good on immigration, i don't like him anymore because he flip flops and goes international sometimes, but the idea that people thought mexico would really pay for the wall is retarded, this is just another "omg look at the dumb trump supporterrs!!! theyll defs support us next time"

Gas yourself you jews

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Have the shills gone?

>>136027963
Remember when they said he is a joke?
Remember when they said he woun't get above 50%?
Remember when they said he woun't be nominated?
Remember when they said He woun't win?

>>136019232
wall will happen, spics will get deported, ghetto niggers will get roped.

America is a white ethno state now. We evolved. You'll understand lib shit.

>>136022331
I suppose Reuters and Associated Press are liberal dishrags too, despite being the most unbiased English language news sources in existance.

>>136019232
as long as the wall don't become just a concept i'm fine whit it.

>>136024583
This. Trump is a buffoon and a pathetic man-child with skin the thickness of wet toilet paper. So what if he speaks his mind? The baboon couldn't even get Obamacare taken out, so he obviously can't motivate or lead his own party. He is a lame-duck not even a year into his 1st term. The office of President is the most powerful in the world, but he acts like a mook.

I hope next run both parties just put up as candidates a potted fern and a polished chunk of granite. Those would be better than the shit we usually have to choose from.

>>136027963
>jail Hillary?
You haven't heard?

>>136019232
No solar powered wall? That's too bad, great loss.
Did Trump get cold feet or was he never serious?

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>Trumpcucks on suicide watch

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>>136028040
It's $21.6 billion, an estimate of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

>>136027874
>reminder that shareblue is more credible than CNN fox and msnbc

>>136028128
>obviously hate trump and big fans of obama
>unbiased

>>136028255
Source?

Inb4 WaPoo

>>136028255
That's probably less than what you guys spend a year on the dikes.

>>136019232
You voted for a conman and you get a conman

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>>136028128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM7oPN2g1ig

"local milk people" IS NOA A NEW MEME

>>136028431
We spend about €180 million per year on dykes.

>>136023507
You realize that's a bot that automatically archives and links, right? Fucking idiot

>>136019232
Well of course there's going to be no fucking wall. The Americans aren't pressuring for it enough anymore!
Anyone caught talking about a wall is going to get attacked endlessly by the overreaching leftist styled society-model.

Nieto was planning to build a southern border but Trump cracking down on inmigrations has decreased border crossings to the point where he no longer needs to do so.

and now that we mass ship people to cucknada instead, we have pretty much saved billions.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-pena-nieto-bilateral-visas-beef-1.3655746

Better hope Canada doesn't crash and burn. The Zerg Rush from the north will be amazing.

>>136028616
"local milk people"

>>136028612
That's a lot of shekels.

>>136026862
>Mexico isn't actively sending over criminals and Guatemalans that enter
>there won't be a cost in taking those people back that America will no longer pay
Yeah ok. See you there.

>>136028402
>http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-wall-exclusive-idUSKBN15O2ZN

>>136028699
>Nieto was planning to build a southern border
You really love to talk bullshit.

>>136023860
This.

AWAN BROTHERS AWAN BROTHERS AWAN BROTHERS AWAN BROTHERS AWAN BROTHERS

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>>136028717
About €10 per citizen. Keeps us dry.

>>136026864
there's no wall.

>>136023507
Show some respect.

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>>136026455
Trump is *still* attractive to me because of the liberal tears (see your message) as well as a whole host of other reasons.

Let's just get this straight loser, Trump is in office, Hillary supporters were the most smug over confident voters ever... They were humiliated worse than anyone has ever been before. So you can go ahead and ditch the smug shit because your fresh off the heels of the greatest BTFO of all time.

Everyone knows the smug shit is an act for persuasion or trolling. Hell most my really liberal limp wristed acquaintances have literally gained like 20 pounds since November because of the depression. I had a grown man tell me he cried "like a bitch" when trump won. No one has forgotten you people's disgrace. You can rest assured when I lay in bed every night with my MAGA hat on I sleep well, have sweet dreams, and swill up more sour lefty tears than would make the whole guard a posset.

Meanwhile I know you are literally living in Trump hell. It doesn't even matter what you say I *know* it is the case. Kiss my ass and suck my dick.

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>>136019232
Got a wall of ICE agents deporting the illegals. No more sanctuary cities, it GREAT!!

>>136019232
"There is gonna be no wall goys!"

Brought to you by the same people who said Trump couldn't win the primaries, or the election, or the electoral vote, or install a travel ban, or that there was muh russia collusion, etc.

>>136020195

I fucking guffawed out loud at this image. Holy shit.

>>136029035
Yeah, because building a a wall is super easy and cheap like talking idiots into voting for you.

>>136024202
Fake news is not an argument either, nigger

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>>136029035
>he still believes in trumps lies.

>>136029130
Well you know Hillary couldn't manage to do it in Michigan or Wisconsin? She had a lot of money too it must have been hard.

>>136020195
That's fucking embarrassing desu. Reminds me of raider fans thinking they look cool but really look fucking gay. Vader and the gorilla are exceptions.

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Rule #1: Never believe anything a con man says.
Rule #2: See Rule #1.

BUILDING THE WALL WAS fake news

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>>136019232
Came here to read /pol/'s reaction.

Having a laff

>>136024239
>We will have a beautiful concrete border wall, and Mexico will pay for It!
>it was all a metaphor
Mexico will be paying for a metaphor?

>>136024323
So, not Trump's accomplishment whatsoever? Good to know

>>136029357

You'd almost think the guy had been lying for like, years or something.

>>136023069
Doesn't match Trump's speech patterns. Words on paper.
Is there a tape? Will we ever hear the tape? No. It's bullshit.

surprise the Master Dealmaker is actually a whiny baby behind closed doors

how can anyone in /pol/ perform the necessary mental gymnastics to continually support this obese blustering con-man who can barely string together a coherent sentence? wait, I know, it's because they're actually stupider than he is and fall back on parroting their stale election redditfrog memes whenever their faith in God Emperor is shaken by facts.

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>>136019232
Illegal immigration on the U.S.-Mexico border is "the lowest in 17 years."
— Donald Trump on Friday, April 21st, 2017 in an interview with the Associated Press

LMAO at the master negotiator begging and crying at two world leaders to not make him look bad

>>136029831

Great then why build a wall. People should stop complaining about it.

>>136029870

After explaining to Trump where the refugees came from, the U.S. president asked for a guarantee that if there are any problems — before claiming “you know that is what they said about the Boston bombers. They said they were wonderful young men.”

Turnbull replied that the Tsarnaev brothers “were Russians. They were not from any of these countries.”

“They were from wherever they were,” Trump responded.

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>mfw Mexico will never EVER pay for the wall

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

>>136030106
Yeah since you are poor fucks.

>>136023624
The reddit is leaking out of you and we all know it

>>136030438
>Latvia

lmao literally who

>>136028908
THIS so much. I'm living in the moment of pure bliss watching smug Liberals crying. I do know that I can be 'paid back' with double the smugness from Liberals if/when Trump doesn't deliver, but for now i love it.
God bless trump no matter what, and be thankful Hillary won't be able to hold the title as first female US president. That should go to Tulsi Gabbard in all honesty.

>The completely retarded leftard itt that seriously think that the wall isn't going to be built.
>The completely retarded leftard itt that actually thinks that Mexico wouldn't pay for the wall.
>The completely retarded leftard itt that actually think that the leak is damaging to Trump when it actually prove he is thoroughly consistent in his belief.

Did anyone really read the leak? No where does it states that the wall will not be paid by Mexico nor that it states that it isn't being built.

MashaAllah, are liberals and anti-Trumpers really this stupid?

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>>136030667
Exacly

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>>136029914
>cancer is in remission
>stops paying attention to health

>>136028767
>Reuters
I'll wait for a direct source

>>136030712
>That should go to Tulsi Gabbard in all honesty.

Gabbard is good people. She would be an awesome Pres. Military minded.