Why are younger Americans increasingly choosing not to get d

I have a CDL. If for some reason I become unemployed I can always drive commercially.

>>135968477
Why bother? Google says self driving cars in five years :^)

people are getting fatter so they subconsciously want to move their bodies more to get around

>>135968477
chemicals in the water

Who here drives /manual/?

It is the superior way to drive, without question.

>>135968477
What's that around the car?
Did it run over the Spaghetti Monster?

>>135968477

With set driving cars on the horizon and the price of ride sharing it's getting less necessary to own a car especially if you live in an urban area

>>135968704
Hello fellow truckerbro

>>135969007
>has to change gears
>not comfy auto cruise control

the leaf

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>>135968477
>get driver license with 18, oh so many years ago
>never drive a single meter, ever since
What do I win?

>>135968477
Because their are no alpha males.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YTyQgwVvYyc

>>135968704
Until you're replaced by robots two years from now.

If I was American I would ride a motorcycle, they cost nothing to insure in America and you can buy used for cheap

>>135969007
It's fun but it's good to have an auto car too. Driving in traffic, answering the phone and drinking a beer with stick shift is not fun

>>135968477
I live in california, it is hard as shit, and used cars are fucking expensive out here. Fucking dicks drove up prices and made it impossible to get a license.

>>135969067

Hagfish.

Literally fucking hagfish.

>>135969067
Eels i think
Were stored in the boot, car got rear ended

>>135968477
Why both?

>>135969329
>drinking a beer
Texas?

I drink a beer when I get stuck on the Allen Rd in Toronto, but that's keeping the car in 1st for 30 minutes

Fewer work opportunities for teenagers, less desire by teenagers to work, and mandatory car insurance for possessing a driver's license in many states.

>>135969359
Only Chinamen is going to be driving around in a BMW X6 filled with eels.

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>>135968477
>Why are younger Americans increasingly choosing not to get driver's licenses
New cars are uninspired shit compared to old ones. I am currently without a car and I plan to either rebuild a classic or create something custom from the frame up.

>>135968477

Because every subsequent generation becomes more and more infantilized by globalism. I know at least a half dozen people my age (29) who don't have licenses but aren't disqualified from having them. They're just too lazy to take the test and make their parents drive them around, or they beg for rides from friends.

>>135969007
you can't call yourself a white man if you dont drive manual
auto is for dumb niggers
also niggers can't drive stick

>>135969007
manual is too involved for daily commuting, especially if you enter a "mental autopilot" mode while driving

>>135969353
This raises even more questions!

>>135969270
Trucker here. Not happening. Take that to the bank

>>135968477
If they live in big cities and use public transportation and uber then why own a car when the longest distance you will ever travel in your life is just few miles?

>>135969350
>Fucking dicks drove up prices

You mean our nigger ex-president, right?

>>135969586
This.

Manual is the ultimate anti-nigger-steal proof vehicle.

>>135968477
I was stupid and spent my adolescence spending all my money supporting my deadbeat family of self-entitled emotionally abusive baby boomers. Any time I'd get close to having enough to buy a car, get a license, etc, someone would be on the verge of homelessness or whathaveyou, and I couldn't say no. I got nothing out of it, they put literally zero effort into my upbringing.

Now I'm 26, still no car, small town, no real prospects, no education, family is just as deadbeat as ever, and I no longer care that much. I'm just hoping the apocalypse happens before I'm too old to hold my own in a fight.

>>135969586
This

>>135969754
Yes that nig drove inflation through the roof, and increased the debt. Now shits expensive, and california went as far to ban plastic AND paper bags. KMS

>>135969184

Are you me?

well, think about it this way.
> your car is 'dad's old trans-am' half buried in the front yard, covered in discarded toys, with no wheels, and a broken windshield
>she's gonna need a little work but she's all yours
>in less than 10 years, your manager will retire, allowing you an opportunity to move into management there at the $1.99 store
>then...you'll finally be able to afford to fix her up to get all of the hot chicks working the drive-thru at the Dairy Queen

you've got a little time to worry about getting a license

>>135969692
Okay. I'll bet your career on it.

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>>135969586
auto for daily, manual for fun.

>>135969067
Large truck carrying load of eels tipped over on OR hwy and spilled it's load all over that car. Sad day if you care about all the fishies that died due to stupid human error. Pretty nasty mess too.

>>135969270
lol, for about 4 months before the news of deaths caused by faulty and primitive self-driving car technology comes rolling in.

you fucking scifi subverted retard. robots cannot replace human creativity and problem solving (unless you count subhumans like niggers and chinks)

>>135968477

Gonna say this is probably due to the boomer generation being over and their surplus of cars for their children to inherit.

Today's parents are lucky if they got out of the city and own anything other than a dumb fucking Prius.

>>135970104
I'll take that bet

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>>135970432
You've been taking that bet your whole life you just didn't know it

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>>135970076
Hi, it's me!

>>135970355
>implying a few deaths is anything compared to the number of deaths caused daily by human error

>>135970355
This. Your average jerkoff normie will never understand

Why bother when you can just have mummy drive you or call an Uber? I doubt they have the financial means to acquire a car and to maintain it.

I'm just glad me and my gf could lease a new car that only costs us $250 a month after spending over a decade driving shitboxes.

>>135970355
Also
>>>"robots"
>robots can't replace human creativity and problem solving
Yes, they can.

>>135970776
>Ban guns
>a few shootings happened
>Ban self driving cars
>Its only an isolated incident

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>>135970355
>robots cannot replace human creativity and problem solving
>says visibly enervated robot for the 100th time

>>135968477
Insurance is fucking unholy
I do not have the income to deal with the costs, so I choose to just walk or bike instead

>>135968477
I never got one because I grew up in downtown Toronto. It's impossible to find parking and if you do it costs an arm and a leg plus your entire nutsack -- traffic moves at a slow crawl. The subway is $2 and gets you around faster.

>>135968798
You will likely still need a license

>>135971396
Also a parking space often comes at additional cost if you rent/own a condo/apartment so it costs money even if you don't drive it anywhere.

>>135968477
Look pol another corporate marketing fag.
If they cant get you on a lifetime of car payments they must find something else. Also keep in mind the ((( Bankers ))) are very sad you are not paying INTEREST on a big fat fucking car loan, as we now know , that money is loaned into existance as debt. it inflates the money supply and devalues currency already in circulation. Just the same as if you cranked up a printing press and ran off 30 K in new bills.
Fuck the dealers, fuck marketers and fuck bankers , double. now , fuck off

>>135969559

What the fuck are you talking about? New cars are GOAT compared to the shitty 90s cars I grew up with.

>>135968477
Driver's licenses used to be simple to get. You took drivers Ed at school for the cost of "nothing" and then took the test at 15 or 16. In some states, no training was even required. Insurance was optional if you didn't want comprehensive coverage and weren't worried about being sued.

Today, a lot of states have multiple layers if bureaucratic bullshit. A kid can't even start without taking a class, a test, insurance. Then has to take another class but the schools don't offer it so they are about $800 and only run in evenings or on weekends for an hour. That's 40 lessons. Even taking it every evening, takes 8 weeks. That qualifies you for the SECOND level. You can't get the "real" license until 18 and even then may be limited to certain conditions until 21.
Liability insurance can cost $200 or more every month.

TL;DR it's a pain in the ass and expensive.

>>135969605
Wrong. If you actually know how to drive a standard, it isn't complicated.
Real problem now is finding one. They used to be cheaper but now cost a couple thousand more than standard and may need to be ordered.
Since no one learns to drive them, they burn out clutches too often...which costs another $800 to replace every year.

>>135971112
No, retards like the one I replied to seem to think self-driving cars need to be 100% accident free to be viable when they actually only need to be as good or better than humans which isn't hard because a lot of people are shitty drivers. The biggest problem a self driving car has to deal with is people. Without people, self driving cars would most likely very rarely have any problems

>>135968477
Because the future is in "common people" not being able to even register a personal non-self-driving car, and everyone else will just drive first in service cars like Uber, or shared self-driving cars (like the current shared bicycles in a lot of cities, and there are some programs for shared cars already, all smartphone-activated and tracked of course).

In America it might not happen that quickly, but in Europe cars will soon require a license similar to a gun license.

>>135971670
>new cars are GOAT compared to older new cars
He isn't talking about the 90's you industrial cock inhaling faggot

>>135971747
Ok what I am being told is, skynet is a viable investment to make.

>>135968477
I have a drivers licence and it's a fucking meme. Cops and cameras are everywhere now just waiting to fuck you for revenue. It's not fun to drive at all with speed traps. It's just a big fucking hassle. Can't wait to move somewhere where I can take public transport.

>>135968477

It's similar in Canada. I have to pay 300-400 dollars a month in insurance just because I'm a white male under 25. Fuck that.

government rent seeking

>>135971786

Can't wait until I tell my grandchildren that people had to drive cars and it was fun doing it. Almost like a Disney ride.

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>>135971670
>shitty 90s
That's why you don't go newer than 79

>>135969867
Oh fuck are you me? Someone even gave me a car but I've spent every penny supporting 5 other people and I can't afford to even give it a god damned battery to get it running.

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>>135971895
No. People are retarded and don't trust self driving cars due to said retardation

>>135968477
I don't know, maybe it's the increasing regulations and the increasing awareness for the potential crashes. With all of that shit combined with people not doing enough exercise and shit, could you really blame them for walking or taking uber?

>>135968477
The next generation is going to have difficulties affording cars just like the current generation is having difficulty affording homes.

Eventually people will struggle to afford food and bam...global communism makes it to america.

>>135972110
What happens when those self driving cars start communicating with other self driving cars, they will make up their own code and language like what happened to those two robots passing the ball.

In my county there are probably 40 to 50 speed traps with cameras, some fixed others that move around. Most of those are sited in zones that suddenly drop off to 30mph from 40 or 50 with little warning. If you miss the sign you're fucked.

Each ticket is 75 bucks, so as a it's literally almost impossible to just drive for the sake of driving. All of your attention goes to watching your speed rather than being a good driver. It's absolutely retarded.

>>135972443
as a poorfag*

>>135972402
You wake up from your autistic dream and learn how programming works

>>135969007
Manual master race reporting

>>135971670
Japanese 90's cars are the greatest cars ever made

any other car besides 70's and 80's AMC's are shit

>>135972478
They can write there own code if they can communicate with eachother.

>>135972639
Did you read what I replied with?

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>>135968477

Sorry totally my fault, glad you're not hurt too bad. My rad blew, we should exchange insurance info you think?

>>135969181
>not comfy auto cruise control
Manuals have CC retard

>>135971909

I've been driving for over ten years now, and I've literally gotten ONE ticket for some BS, made up traffic violation in a small town where they were desperate to fill their end of the month quota

22yo without license, I just don't want one. I took some five hour class when I was 16 and I don't want to have to sit through it again. I don't drive that much and I really don't want to drive any more than I do.
I find it stressful as fuck and have seen plenty of car accidents to know how terrible some drivers are. Plus once I do get it then I need to but my own car, which there are very few relatively cheap ones left, and I need to pay for insurance.
I know I have to get it but I'm just not looking forward to it.

>>135971728
>it's this more complicated thing, but it's totally easy if you invest all this time to learn it
>it's rare and more expensive
>it costs more on maintenance
Golly gee, I sure want to drive stick!

>>135972845
where do you live? I've gotten maybe 5 tickets in 3 years and I don't even think I speed more than the average car on the road.

>>135972443
>In my county there are probably 40 to 50 speed traps with cameras, some fixed others that move around. Most of those are sited in zones that suddenly drop off to 30mph from 40 or 50 with little warning. If you miss the sign you're fucked.
Oh yeah, that too, you're already forced to drive like a robot because of mass surveillance, they even have cameras that register when you enter a highway, and when you leave it, and calculate your speed, they don't even have to GPS track you or anything.

>>135972784
Yes I did, quit chimping out and understand computers can write their own code.

>>135969007
I wonder if people actually think this

>>135968477
Honestly, I think its because the instructors have been getting "stricter", and because licensing institutions are basically monopolies straight up jewing young people. They don't teach you how to drive well either.

>>135969605
>not entering mental stickshift autopilot

>>135968477
BECAUSE LAWS CHANGED AND IT'S NOW FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A LICENCE.

FUCKING CANADA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>135973048
>and learn how programming works

>>135973139
My Canadian relatives only use public transport to travel, that's the future of Canada I suppose.

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>>135970064
>and california went as far to ban plastic AND paper bags

wait really?

>>135968477
Good. Stupid little shits aren't mature enough to be driving.

You need to be 21 to be "mature" enough to handle a beer but a 16 year old is mature enough to handle a couple tons of metal? Fuck that.

>>135968477
Because there are too many cars.

>>135973284
to be fair that's only because you have a retarded drinking age I don't know of any other country aside from completely dry ones in the middle east that has a drinking age above 19

video games. driving in real life is just excruciatingly boring compared to driving in GTAV. this is also linked with millennial men not being as interested in disgusting whore millennial women and turning to hentai instead.

This shit will really bake your noodle. When you get a car you get a certificate of title. It is not the actual ownership title of the car however. It simply ' certifies ' that the state has a title for that car. You must then pay ' Rent ' in form of registration / fees / ect. just to drive it. It is also considered ' collateral ' since the car was only paid for in FRN's not ' Lawful ' money, which is gold or silver.

what are you going to do with a license anyways
people's parents watch then 24/7 I knew kids in highschool who had gps trackers on their car
sick parties in highschool were a dime a dozen and half of them got busted by the faggy ass suburban police with like 5 patrol cars
so why get a license when you can be a comfy neet and play vidya all day

>>135968477
I never got my license because my local DMV tried jewing me out of 60 shekels after they intentionally failed me, despite the fact that the only "wrong" thing I did during the driving test, was park a few inches to far to the right. If they're going to be playing games with me, then I'm not even going to bother.
Everything I need is in biking or transit distance anyway, and insurance/gas/car payments are way too fucking expensive too.

>>135973139
>tfw took N test 6 times
>failed for:
>speeding in school zone
>speeding in school zone
>rolling stop
>parking in front of a hydrant I didn't notice because it was white and green
I've literally never seen a non-red fire hydrant before that point
>various little things that don't matter

Its not even that I'm a bad driver. I'm actually pretty fucking good. I just don't give a fuck about rules and can't follow them even for half an hour.

>>135973170
>Artificial intelligence doesn't know how to program

>>135973284
Maybe your man child self needed the extra time, but I've been driving since 16. You are literally the guy I cucked in the school parking lot.

>>135973709
Where the hell does AI come in with self driving cars? I saw your(I assumed)shit posting in other threads, but I have doubts now.

>>135973787
Nothing is more pathetic than someone who peaked in HS

>>135969007
on my old harley and my truck.

>>135973943
Are you dense or just retarded because AI is a necessity in self driving cars, from reading lines on the road to proactive throttle and braking

Insurance companies extort too much money. They now know they are in danger of losing profits due to driverless cars so they're raising rates while they still can.

I live in Bangkok, the city with one of the worst traffic on the planet.

Stories of people stuck 2-3 hours at a single intersection are common.

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>>135973678
> I'm actually pretty fucking good.
> failed test 6 fucking times

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>>135969007
Manual all the way anon. You just can't feel the car otherwise. Automatics are like horses, you let go of the break and their off. The cars more in control than you are.

>>135973272

No, they just cost (((10 cents each))) now.

>>135971728
United States has it easy with drivers license, go to Europe and its like getting a perfect score on the SAT.

>>135973971
And you base this on... your mental illness that conjures fantasy?

Cars are expensive as shit

A cheap used car in moderately decent condition is $3000 minimum with at least $1000 minimum up front. And that's if you are lucky that it's actually IN good condition, and isn't going to break down on you a couple of months down the line.

And god help you if your car DOES break down or need repair. Some types of repair can be more than the price of a car itself. Even buying a clunker and fixing it up can cost you a couple of thousand, at which point why not just get a used car?

And before you say anything, new cars cost about as much as a house these days. Unless you are super well off, a new car is a pipe dream.

>>135968477
id rather not waste so much money on a car that i dont even like, id rather just save up for one i really like

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>>135971930
>Tfw family works for insurance company and all cars are under one name.

Feels good

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>>135971971
That's the plot of the Rush song "Red Barchetta" (and the short story it was based upon).

>>135968477
Manual all the way. Driving automatic is the first step into being a total cuck.

>>135973284
State laws have it set that age so that kidies won't drink, before 1984 things were different . The states lose their federal highway funding if its not at 21, because of the National Minimum Drinking Age Act.

Cash for Clunkers. So many used cars were removed from the market that demand forced the price on used cars harder, taking them out of reach of families.

Before
>1k car will need a 600 tranny rebuild and maybe 500 in tune up/general work for a ~2k vehicle
After
>4k car will need the same work for ~5k

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>>135968477
>muh bycikle without proper infastructure
The real white genocide, stop being so hard/tard fellow amerifats build some actual bikelanes instead of just painting a bicycle symbol in the right turn lane

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>>135974309
I was in Manila for a while and drove occasionally. Traffic was just astoundingly bad. And it was bad all over the place - I'd take a side-street to avoid a clogged highway, and the side-street would STILL be full of traffic. Like actual side-streets that were basically alleys, with doors to people's houses right next to your vehicle.

>>135970087
keked

>>135976206
Or construct more sidewalks.
No seriously, it's not hard or expensive to put down more of them.
It's fucking 2017, and I still can't bike from coast to coast because sidewalks aren't treated seriously.

>>135977162

Bikes dont go on sidewalks. Unless you are underageb& or walking it, it is a vehicle

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>>135977564
>Bikes
>Not belonging on the sidewalk
>A vehicle
Get a load of this autofag.

>>135977791
you got it mixed up there buddy, autofags hate bikescum.

>>13597756
>Bike
>Vehicle
back to >>>/n/ 4

>>135968477
Something I've noticed is that NONE of my friends are interested in cars.

>>135975984
If only Trump could implement an equivalent Nickels for Niggers program, where you get paid to bring in unneeded niggers so they can be disposed of

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>>135969505
this.

Might as well bike or take the public transportation.

>>135968477
Parents want me to do many strict practice and won't let use their cars.

Sharply increasing urbanisation, increased fuel cost, lower amounts of disposable income, and the impending cull of driving related jobs.

>>135969181
Why would you think manuals don't have cruise control? You don't have to change gears if you're going one speed you idiot.

I still don't understand why people buy new cars and get into debt just to impress/appease someone.

>>135968477
No money for even a used beater car. Time to dust off those heelies.

>>135975686
Suddenly ahead of me
Across the mountainside
A gleaming alloy air car
Shoots towards me, two lanes wide
I spin around with shrieking tires
To run the deadly race
Go screaming through the valley
As another joins the chase

>>135968477
Here in Michigan it just makes more sense to wait until you're 18.
>Curfews and limited time you can drive
>Limited amount of passengers
>Ridiculous insurance rates and increased ticket amounts for violations
>The nanny state deemed two sessions of driver's ed necessary

>>135968477
Owning a car is too expensive. It's cheaper to just buy bicycle or train ticket or go hitchiking.

After you ruin economy with taxation and regulations everything is gone. that is how communism works

>>135983624
>>The nanny state deemed two sessions of driver's ed necessary

It's a two week course here with a mandatory ice roadway test. ~2000 dollar test.

You call yourself nanny state?

In Sweden it's ridiculously hard to get a driver licenses and fucking expensive. Also force us to learn eco-driving which is bull-fucking-shit. Driving schools are literally scams.

You can either buy a package which cost about $800( 10 lessons and a theory-package that don't included the teory books???) or you can buy 1 lesson at time which cost $65 and a theory-lesson $52 at time. And this doesn't end there we also have to pay for a risk education, which is two steps, were you have to test drive through water and how aquaplaning feels like and so on. Also how alcohol and drugs is dangerous for driving.

I have know people who have paid like $2000 and they still failed the driving test and when you driver up(you have guy from the school who will judget your driving skills, either pass or fail). Lol.

>>135973678
>failed N test
Vancouver chink detected

>>135983624
I don't believe it's the insurance companies fault insured young drunk retards like to kill themselves in steel coffins.

>>135969007
>tfw I wouldn't even know how to start an automatic car

>>135969270
How many decades have people been saying that for now?

>>135969007
Anybody who drives anything other than a manual is lazy and a bad driver and should not be allowed to drive. This includes self driving cars. They are for lazy idiots.

>>135969007
Automatic transmissions are for cucks. You literally let some big black transmission shift your gears FOR you while you watch.

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>>135968477

Saying NO to consumerism is the ultimate red pill. It saves the ecosystem and starves (((them))).

Also, police harrass you more if you drive.

>>135968477
License here is expensive (1200 euros) . Gas and maintenance aren't cheap either. Don't know about the US though.

Btw considering the soaring number of NEETs, what is the use of car license if you don't have to get out of your house?

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>>135984955
This is true. But they still slow down while passing you to give you a quick down-up..

>>135969329
what on Earth are you doing on the road you dangerous piece of shit?

>>135983921
sounds like a bargain. here the same maffia of retards that run this scam have driven up the average cost at least twice as high.

but thats ok because nobody here can afford a car anymore anyway, i guess

can someone explain to me what is happening in this image?

>>135968477

>Gas prices increase
>McDonalds job wages don't

Well gee, why don't you go and ride a bike and get some exercise why don't you?

>>135970175
>care about all the fishies that died due to stupid human error.
they were going to Japan as a delicacy.. nips fucking eat anything.

>>135969605

If you drive a manual for more than a few months the shifting of gears becomes a mental autopilot

>>135968477
It used to be you had to go places to be entertained, now you literally have infinite access to all the entertainment you could possibly want from your house. Also when you're a teenager without a steady, reliable source of income a car, insurance and by extension a driver's license can be seen as a money sink. I'm pretty sure it's one of those.

>>135968477

>tfw my wife owns a business that requires her to be highly mobile

>Is looking at vehicles

>Is late 20's

>Still hasn't taken a single driving lesson

I don't get it.

I left home at 16, so I was delayed, but by the time I had the money at 21, I ran out and took 6 months of lesson and got my license. I see people bitching and moaning about losing out on jobs etc because they can't drive. I have friends in their THIRTIES who can't drive - and it's not like we live in New York or London.

>>135969007

I can drive manual, but I don't anymore (my first car was manual because it was cheaper) and last month I had to use a work ute that was manual and it was pretty fucking embarrassing the amount of times I stalled at roundabouts or quick changing lights.

I really hate it though. If I was driving in the country on the weekends, it's great. It's actually fun.

But getting around peak hour traffic in a major global city? It fucking sucks. Although I still use the speed shifter because I can't stand the lag on autos.

>>135969586
>>135969007
I fucking love manual driving and I learned in San Fran so literally everything is EZ mode. Disappointed that modern cars basically do not have the option so much. Much more fun and less likely to have your car stolen by a dumbfuck.

Meanwhile driving in Japan is slow as fuck and I have to get a new license for MT which is a pain in the ass.

>>135985034

Over in Australia in my state it goes as follows to get a license

>Get learner license/take multiple choice test
>Cost = $41.30
>Driving instructor lessons = $50 each (You need about 5 so $250
>Hazard perception test (Stupid test where you click a mouse when a video plays)
>Cost = $18.10
>Go for probationary license/driving test
>Cost = $79.50
>Pay for registration for your car if you have one
>Cost = $748

TOTAL: $1,136

(Excluding insurance, buying the car (Decent second hand car here is about $2000-9000)

>tell all young men that everything they do is bad
>tell all young people that the world is dangerous and horrible, stay home in front of computer
>tell all young men that girls find cars gay and weak
>teach young girls to like environmental faggots instead of independent Chads
>create panic and hysteria over global warming
>remove all tactile sense and feel from automobiles until it's a sterile experience less entertaining than watching your friend play video games
>fill low-wage jobs with illegal alien adults so kids have no work to go to
>sell kids a fake phone-world which provides instant gratification 24/7 which requires no work at all to attain gratification of all fantasies
Gee, why don't kids drive now?

>>135986057

I spent 2000 on driving lessons alone.

40 bucks a lesson for 50 lessons.

>>135968798
I will never step foot in a self driving car for as long as possible. AI is not to be trusted and should be destroyed before it can get any further than current prototypes. Also humanoid robots should be banned entirely.

>>135969007
>It is the superior way to drive, without question.
Maybe in the 80s and 90s. Nowadays even professionals use paddle shifting. Manual is a meme now. CVT is king.

>>135986536

Oh, I only did 5 and got my license (I live rural so it was easier for me).

I also get a cheaper rate on my registration fees but added the suburbia rate in my post.

>>135986536
Why the fuck did you need 50 lessons?

>>135974606
>Older method is superior
>That newer method is similar to the oldest method, and therefore is bad

Nice, ill just go ride my wooly mammoth like a REAL MAN

>tfw 22 with no driver's license
it's not just me either. about half of my friends don't have one. I live in the northeast so I guess that's consistent with the data. I really need to do it sometime but I just don't know where to begin at this point.

>>135986707
The funny part is the age old 'manual gets better mileage' has long been bullshit.
I had an old SaaB 900 turbo manual and I loved it to death but seriously you're not special if you drive manual.

>>135986737
I'm 25 without one.
At this point it's basically impossible to get one even if I wanted.

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>tfw 24 and just got my license last week

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>>135971747
>The biggest problem a self driving car has to deal with is people
And niggers. They'll rob a driverless truck in a heartbeat. So will all the unemployed truck drivers.

Jesus, you "muh automation" kids are morons.

>>135984849
>>135984930
I drove manual for years and the stop and go became bullshit. I got too old for that shit feel me family

>>135974926
Can confirm. Especially here in the Netherlands it is literal cancer. Well, at least for men it is. Women get the pussy pass out usually.

>>135975056
That's why you buy a shitty car and fix it. If you do a good job restoring it you can sell it for a few bucks more than what you bought it with.

That however requires you to read up on how to fix cars and willingness to get dirty youth of today seem to lack. From what I've noticed is that millenials and youngsters can do even hard physical labor but they seem to be neurotic about getting their hands dirty. Result of helicopter parenting and parental germphobia I guess.

>>135987007

Problem that's easily solved with a device that disperses fried chicken and watermelon my good man.

Shower the hordes in purple dank.

>>135968477
20 and only have my basic license so I can only drive with someone else in the car that has had their license for a few years. I don't like driving.

>>135968477
Shows you the amount of illegals

>>135987461

No one likes learning HOW to drive. But when you have the freedom to drive by yourself you will enjoy it.

I am not a very capable automobile vehicle driver.

>>135974926
Not just that its also very expensive here. With the money required to get necessary training to even attempt to get that license you can buy one to two decent used cars.

>>135986704

Minimum 50 hours of driving requirement.

I literally had no access to a car except via an instructor.

Upside was that getting my license was a formality and I'm an excellent driver.

Downside was I didn't have 2000 to add on top to my car purchase price.

>>135968477
spread of homosexuality and kikery

>>135987529
I physically don't like driving. I'm being a little shit about it, sure, but I'm legitimately dangerous behind the wheel.

>>135987652

Are you from WA? I'm from vic, we have a 120 hour requirement, however when you turn a certain age it becomes redundant and you don't need a log book.

>>135974926
>United States has it easy with drivers license
One of the few times affirmative action was better for everyone.

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>>135968477
>where getting your license as soon as possible used to be a top priority for almost every teen

and a time when graduating high school guaranteed a job...

>>135968477
Most out of high school don't want to pay for
>gas
>insurance
>maintenance
>etc.
I took the class and passed it fine, but never got my license because of that stuff.
t. 18 yr old out of high school

>>135987742

NSW.

It's completely different now. If you wait til you're 25 you have no requirements.

I got mine at 21, but it was back when you only had to clock 50 hours (I think ten hours of night driving, some hours of wet driving - I don't remember exactly).

Now I know you have over 100 hours plus you have to have "x" amount with a professional instructor.

>>135968477
I can go anywhere in my city for seven bucks. There's plenty of services for people without cars.
It beats going through the classes, to get a fucking permit, not even a license.

>>135987900

In Vic, if you turn 21 you don't need a logbook and there is no requirement to even use an instructor.

I would fucking HATE to be a car owner in your state, you guys have it really difficult in regards to having to get a road worthy check done EVERY YEAR.

No such thing exists in Victoria, you get a RWC done when you buy a car and that's it.

Whores don't require it to fuck them anymore.

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>>135987356
As always, socialism offers an appealing, and tasty solution!

Seriously though having a car used to mean having the freedom to take your date where ever. It also made you cool and doubled for a place to fuck. If you can get your dick sucked without a car where is the motivation for a young man.

>>135968477
Cars fucking suck now thanks to compliance with government fleet average requirements and we can't afford the few good ones.

Also, being forced to have one lest you either walk for hours or hammer your life into shape around a sparse bus schedule kind of takes the fun out of it. When cars were still cool, it was only a five minute walk to the general store, not a five hour walk to the walmart across town.

>>135988061
Yeah, you can fuck goats on the field.

>>135968477
Because they live in urban areas where you decreasingly need one.

Use you fucking brain.

>>135968477
They are cucks.
>>135968798
When will they come up with toilets which pull the shit out of your arse and feed you the same time? No thanks. I prefer to do things myself.

>>135988595
The fuck are you even on? I can buy a used care right now for $1000.

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20 here, I never even got a learning permit. I've never had a job either, I am waiting for socio-economic collapse/WWIII.

Collapsing living standards and shit parents.

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>>135968477
Because millennials are bad and weak and entitled.
Was that your intended response, OP?

>>135988749
Can you afford to maintain it and repair it? Not just the money for parts, but the time on the side of your 18 consecutive 9 hours shifts (american work schedule)? Remember, it has to run each and every time you need to drive 30 minutes at 60mph to work.

Is it a good one, or an FWD shitbox with a clunky three speed automatic?

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When I was a kid it was just do a shitty test for your learners permit, then go for the driving test whenever you feel you can pass.

Nowadays there's all sorts of paperwork in the way. You never hear an end to how bad young drivers are on the news since there's a hit piece on them what feels like daily. There seems to be this big push to punish them for existing with all sorts of weird rules and regulations. I think learner drivers need 150hrs of documented driving with an open license holder (times, dated and signed) before they are even eligible for the driving test. I don't necessarily feel it's a bad thing to have more experience, but the people passing this stuff never had to do that themselves and are just hypocritically attacking younger drivers.

Meanwhile all the old fogies forget that they got their license driving up and down an empty road a few times, as if they somehow popped out of the womb middle aged with 20yrs of driving experience, having never, EVER been young or lost so much as a single point! Public transport is still pretty cancerous, but it's a lot easier to get around without a license and I wouldn't really blame kids for opting out of the bullshit. Then there's all the bullshit costs associated with car ownership and operation that are worse than ever.

But ah, those gosh darn hoons and whatnot! They are the real problem! Why don't we just stop all young people from having a license until they are 40! Glad I was never a child, gee whiz.

>>135988794
won't happen, sadly.

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>>135985499
The hagfish (a type of eel) releases slime when it gets stressed. Thousands of hagfish were very stressed by being dumped from an overturned truck, and this was the result.

I'd be more than happy to have a AI drive me around so I could just browse pol and eat breakfast en route.

almost bought one when i was 19. thank god i didnt. after quitting it was impossible to find a new job. forced insurance, gas, break downs... how can i afford it? you cant get a car without a job, you can get a job without a car. shit is fuckin ridiculous

If you don't know how to drive a manual then you're either a numale or never had a father be around. Or both.

>>135988794
im waiting for ICE to hit up my city. i am just hoping companies start being desperate for workers so i can get a life after. wtf is taking trump so long i just want a job

>>135989338
I can't even manage an automatic and you want me to add shifting gears?

>>135988902
>Can you afford to maintain it and repair it?
I can afford oil changes on a civic/corolla/focus. Those cars run well even into 6 figure mileage levels.

>the time on the side of your 18 consecutive 9 hours shifts (american work schedule)?
What the fuck are you even talking about?

>Remember, it has to run each and every time you need to drive 30 minutes at 60mph to work.
That's what a car does.

>Is it a good one, or an FWD shitbox with a clunky three speed automatic?
It has seats and a steering wheel. If it gets you to and from work, who gives a shit if it's not a BMW?

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>>135989392
>I can't even manage an automatic

>>135969007
Here. Got my dad's old truck after working for him for a summer. Probably the most valuable material thing that I actually 100% own. I love it. Driving an automatic just feels too... easy.

>>135989445
Last time I tried I almost drove into some bleachers at a baseball park.

>>135989392
>>135989503
Did you never take a drivers ed course? Are you Asian per chance?

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>>135970173
Just get a semi auto if you are so afraid of a clutch.

>>135988974
>You never hear an end to how bad young drivers are on the news since there's a hit piece on them what feels like daily.

I've been driving around with my licence for two decades now and I hear this shit from old timers and people my age all the time. Yes new drivers aren't the most skilled since that needs experience and practice. Also they claim younsters are more reckless but everytime I've stopped to help in accident involving more than one car its two forty or fifty year old men who just couldn't let the other one pass them. Women seem to lose control more and drive into things.

We're punishing younger generation for our own egos. That's what I think is going on.

>>135989503
dude get your fucking shit together

>>135989517
No, I'm a white guy. I've done in class drivers ed but I've yet to start my 'in-car'. I don't really want to.

>>135989592
Can't.

>>135989558
>Young people can't do anything right!
Literally the entire world at any given moment.
Case in point >>135969007

>>135969329
All the eurocucks getting triggered cause they can't drive around their back roads drink a beer get their dick sucked and conference call all the while being able to stop and drop a 4 point buck from the bed of their truck with their rifle.
Stay fucking mad.

>>135968477
Oh I dunno
Maybe cause everyone is fucking poor and millennials can't make enough money to do anything at all?

>>135989663
I also think manual is superior to automatic. But I do recognize its a personal preference. I just like to feel more in control. Also I used to drive trucks where you need manual to get into places that are a bit rougher to get to.

>>135968477
They're fuckung pussies.

I have a nephew who is 19 and afraid to take the bus, so my sis is spending $9k on a car for him so he doesn't throw a fit,

Really, it's that sad now for kids today. They're literally terrified of everything.

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>>135989341
This so much oh my fucking god.
>Looking for second job
>Come in with my application
>Was told beforehand that the job would be mine, all I have to do is hand it in
>As soon as I enter the store I see some Somalian nigress giving her application to the manager
>Gets told she got the job
>I hand hers mine
>Err sorry anon, we can try and see if we can give you like a few hours a week or something ;^)
>fucking cunt I told her I needed at least 10 hours and she fucking told me that I got the job, just hand in a application to make it official
>mfw
I swear to fucking christ the next sidewalk shitter I see I'm fucking telling them to go the fuck back to Shitolia where they belong.

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>>135968477
21 here
i have a license, even graded to drive a cycle
>inb4 hurr durr ur a stupid cyclefag
you wish you had my balls

>>135989890
She brought something to the company you can never bring. Shielding from leftists diversity activists.

I'm sorry Anon. If I'd had a business I'd hire a few porch monkeys to hang around the place just for protection while you'd get few hours here and there doing the actual work that needs to be done. Its the reality businesses have to live in this time and age.

Hopefully Trump will start the rebellion but I'm feeling doubtful.

>>135989412
>I can afford oil changes on a civic/corolla/focus. Those cars run well even into 6 figure mileage levels.

Economy car shocks aren't magic. Suspension shit blows, loosens, etc. Wheel bearings go. Clutches go. Trannies need flushed of ATF/gear oil and clutches replaced. Brake pads wear. Brake rotors wear. Calipers seize, pistons corroded and bores pitted. Brake lines rot out. Drums get in really bad shape. Diffs strip their gears. Downpipes rust out. Shit happens.

Cars. Are. Not. Fucking. Magic. The engine can run forever, but you are in nothing but a reliably propelled death trap.

>It has seats and a steering wheel. If it gets you to and from work, who gives a shit if it's not a BMW?
If that's all it is to you, take the bus. Why don't people want cars gaiz?
because
>Remember, it has to run each and every time you need to drive 30 minutes at 60mph to work.
>That's what a car does.
They have to have one. It's not something you want, it's mandatory go-to-work trasportation.

>>135990187
inb4 >no that's not necessary

Enjoy slamming on your brakes, only to have none, and then going out of control when a tie rod end pops out. Why? You were behind someone in a newer or well maintained car, and they hit their brakes as to not collide with a pedestrian.

I see accidents sometimes, and it's always either an incompetent motorcyclist who rekt himself trying to brake/turn or a complete shitbox that plowed into something else because its old drum brakes were no longer functional and the tires had zero tread left.

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Because adults are turning into children.
Especially in America where there are long distances and public transportation is shit, in Europe you don't really need a license.

>>135990513
>in europe you dont really need a license
que young adult car crashes in EU compilation

>>135990187
>>135990452

I have almost 300k miles on my '03 civic and the only thing on your list I've had to replace is brakepads and tires. Twice. My wallet handled it. Flushing fluids is cheap as shit if you do it yourself. I'd change the oil and filter myself too but the price difference is negligible for the time it would take (I don't have a garage and lifts)

>take the bus.
I like being on time to work and not having to wake up at 5am and walk 5 blocks to the stop, only to have the bus show up full of animals.

>inb4 anecdotal evidence!!
aka, most of your argument.

I don't have my license and it really bothers me because I tried my best. Yet, everyday I see foreign scum and illiterate retards breaking the law on the road. I'm getting my permit again soon and going to take the test again, but I can confidently say federal driver tests are horseshit.

You schedule a test two months away at 3am because that's the earliest they become available and that's the time when new dates are posted. Who knows what can happen that day, in my case I got a fucking snowstorm the entire week. You get there and pray you don't have a minority as your instructor. Then you do everything instructed and get told some bs reason why you failed. I got "entering an intersection on green is fine, but you didn't make it all the way through before the light turned yellow. Sorry that's an automatic failure".

Wanted to beat that nigger lady's face in. Lucky to live in a big city where public transport is good, but I'm so sick of seeing niggers on the sub. Don't have enough money for a car, but I have to get this shit in order and fix my life.

>>135990653
Your shitbox is why speed limits are so low

>>135990814
My shitbox does 70 just fine. I sense a great deal of projecting though. Maybe your buses full of degenerates and illegals are why places like NYC made 25 the speed limit for streets.

>>135990901
im pretty sure 25 is the limit because it's a street and not an open road.

>>135968477
One word:
Countersignalling

>>135990621
No he meant in city life you dont need a fucking car.
Or transport works, bike lanes everywhere etc. pp.

ever been to amsterdam? more bikes than cars at all times.

>>135990962
Naw it was a recent thing. The mayor knocked all the streets down to 25 from 35/40. Most likely to ticket the fuck out of people.

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>>135968477
I didn't bother because I figured after depreciation and new cars boomers always buy my dad has probably lost over £500k and I could just take the tram and live in the city

I only just got my first car recently at age 25. Didn't need one through university and until recently I was cycling to work so I could save more money. Now I've moved back to where I grew up (away from all the foreigners) to buy a house so I need a car now since jobs are a bit further to commute than where I was before.

>>135968477
Cost.
Insurance is stupid expensive until you hit 25.
To be able to afford a car, insurance, fuel/maintence you need thousands of dollars.
If you are making anywhere near minimum wage, you are working only to keep your car.

>>135970355
>>135985635
This. I must subconsciously listen to the engine and pound through gears with muscle memory now. It's never a thought when driving.

>>135991059
I might get a moped or an electric bike though -
N O T F I G U R E D O U T

>>135990901
Your shitbox does 70 just fine in a straight line.

The two most likely situations are

You don't know what the fuck a car is supposed to handle like, and all the clunks, whirrs, and creaks of your car are just normal and not impending doom at 350k miles
The last owner of your car replaced a lot of critical shit around it's 150-200k mile effective service life

>>135991023
i would think the 25mph is for the extra braking time for when the inevitable dumbass walks out into the street.

>>135991244
why are you taking corners at 70?

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>>135990513
>Being an adult means owning a car
>Being an adult means paying thousands of dollars for something that used to be dirt cheap before the federal reserve fucked the economy up and created the great depression, paying the insurance jew, and helping fund Prince Aloha Akbar Dindu Nuffin the Third in Saudia Arabia so he can in turn take your money and fund terrorists
It's almost as if you aren't aware of walking, biking, transit, or tram.

Not having a driver's license essentially limits you to only move inside your city and the surroundings. With a car you can drive anywhere, anytime.

The superior choice.

>>135991244
I've had the car for a decade. I do this crazy thing called maintaining it. Ya know, so none of those critical failures you listed actually happen?

And of course it does 70 in a straight line. When the fuck else would I be doing 70? Maybe the reason you think cars fall apart all the time is because you don't know how to fucking drive.

In Spain it costs a 500 or 1000 euros
How much in USA?

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>>135991059
>>>
> A E S T H E T I C

>>135969007
Manual is the standard in Norway, and I'm guessing, the rest of Europe.

>>135991325
Because my car and its tires are not cheap, poorly maintained, dated shit and can handle corners at modest speeds like 70mph just fine without spinning out and rolling. Just 2008 toyota camry things.

I also tracked it and took some sweepers in excess of 100mph. Did fine. No noises, no roll, no unpredictable handling characteristics. Compared to my last car which was in rather poor shape and developed a slight tendency to oversteer due to weird uneven bushing wear, yeah.

>>135991449
>I'm an outlier!
>-you

Yeah, I replace my own U joints too. Complete assembly is under $200. Most people really don't have the time to learn how to maintain shit though.

Why the fuck is this /o/fag sperging about people's vehicles? No one cares about your shitty camry and how you broke the law by recklessly taking turns at 100 mph.

>>135991457
like twenty bucks

>>135968477
Because they are preoccupied with other shit and it's only to get worse? Why do Mexicans need driver's license? They drive at back of a truck to USA and to factory at work.

>>135968477
I'm ashamed to admit this but I'm 28 and I'm utterly terrified of driving. Even getting in a car makes me nervous. Asking me to drive is dangerous to myself and everyone around me.

>>135991564
You're either full of shit or completely out of your mind taking corner at 70+ off a track. What makes the whole thing laughable is you call my car a shitbox yet you're in an almost 10 year old vehicle yourself that you are abusing the fuck out of if you are telling the truth.
Machines last a lot longer if you respect them.

>>135991640
It's legal to go 100mph on private pavement fag

The speed limit here is 70 for trucks. Driving pace is 75. Corners are posted at 45 or 55, but nobody cares about yellow signs because they're not legally binding and only serve as recommendations to unstable vehicles like semis and shitboxes.

>>135991789
>You're either full of shit or completely out of your mind taking corner at 70+ off a track
Have you ever driven around this thing called a mountain?

>>135983278
What about when you already have debt and you don't even have a car? People don't like debt, but that's exactly what they want you to have, how they expect you to buy a car, so more debt means more money for the banks.

>>135991789
>abusing the fuck out of:
>using as intended
>replacing worn parts

your post contains too much retardation to reply to all at once. sorry.

i hope you know your place in the right lane, because chances are your car has hidden issues that make it very unsafe in conditions a better maintained vehicle would be fine in.

>>135971606
This goys

>>135991693
???
Damn
Here you can't learn without a professional teacher
And it costs 30 euros a 45 minutes class
Then you pay 130 to do two exams (question test and then the car exam)
And only a quarter of people pass the first time

>>135968798

a) doubtful
b) even if it does work it will most likely only work i n california with the rest of the country needing additional 4-6 years
c) you will most likely still need a drivers license, because the cars won't be 100% autonomous

>>135992708
Americans have already automatic cars and very wide straight roads. On top of that it was popular for parents to buy their children cars in USA. American dream is truly fucked if Americans stop buying new cars, settle for old ones and stop enjoying their cars.

>>135984937
NOOOOOOO

>>135968477
That decline in the South is because of all the fear-mongering that goes on.

They have all kinds of seminars to "warn about the dangers of driving" then make it seem like the chance of dying in a car accident is inevitable.

It's old folks not realizing how insecure the new generations are mentally.

>>135993361
Can we get statistic which race causes most accidents?

>>135968477
They probably can't afford cars with all the associated costs so they don't bother. Shits only gotten more expensive for new drivers since I start driving and it was already expensive back in 2007.

>>135993052
Pretty much no one has their parents buy them a car, that's a meme. I've owned 4 cars so far and had to buy them all with my own money. I know a grand total of 3 people I went to school with that didn't have to buy their own shit.

>>135993533
Seems like spics and natives, proabably because of the associated alcoholism

It's not the niggers this time, Dmitry.

>>135971786
How else could they stop the snackbars ramming trucks of peace into crowds, right?

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>>135993906
I am not Dmitry, since Dmitry drinks and drives.

>>135993712
>Pretty much no one has their parents buy them a car, that's a meme.
Every single person I know had their parents (or relative) buy them or give them a car.

>auto insurance is rediculously high if your just starting out

>down payment equals or more then a months worth of rent.

>shite wage and lack of jobs, hard to get a job even harder to keep one since outsourcing for illegals even tho we say we dont want them.

Get a car and starve or no car no starve

>>135983921
>>135985468
BASED boomers clearing overcrowded roads from Generation-Z scum

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>>135968477
Because mass autism and adhd because of vaccines, Being a functional member of society is more difficult now

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>>135991408
honestly i dont know why someone would want to leave the city, i dont even leave my room

>>135983921
Sweden, we have to know how to park reverse between obstacles on a hill without machine making strange noises, we have to drive on narrow roads never to cross the white line for an hour. We have to drive accordingly to laws when not even construction companies follow the laws and paint the blue line for parking way too close to pedestrian crossing, many times you even have to park on with one wheel on road and other wheel on pavement. All this and more on exam for driving. You also had to know how to change oil and how to drive in fog. I am not making shit up, i just described to you what i done to pass the driving exam. While Anglo just sits in car and a relative teaches them how to drive on straight road in own car.

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>>135968477
Just really Depressed and cant be bothered to do it or anything really

>>135968477
Insurance is more than 1,500 for a high school student to drive a short amount. Cash for clunkers made all the old cars expensive. More people live in suberbia and cities where they can ride bikes to nearby places.

>>135968477
>High school seniors
I couldn't afford a car until my third year of college. Money isn't what it used to be relative to the price of goods and average wage.

>>135975056
Just got a 'cheap' car. Month later had an antifreeze leak and ended up burning up because the gauges didn't tell me anything. Now I'm out of 3,500

>>135995813
>the gauges didn't tell me anything
The horrific noises coming from the engine bay weren't a giveaway something might be wrong?

Guy I work with has a son who is 20 and has no interest in getting a license. His dad constantly preaches how great and successful the kid is and how much better he is than everyone else. He is the very definition of neet. He brought his kid to work a year ago and I was talking about electrician certifications (kid loves doing electrician work), the kid quickly piped up and angrily said that certifications mean nothing and that he would be able to make money no problem without a stupid certification, the dad was fully backing him.

On the same day I chose to drive my sports car into work and this kid was challenging me to a race against his remote control car....(I'm only 7 years older than the kid).

The cognitive dissonance of the father is astounding.

>>135995016
>drive on narrow roads never to cross the white line for an hour
God dammit Slovenia, you're not supposed to wander over that line ever.

>>135968477
Because there's no way a teen can afford a car anymore.

>>135995934
It didn't actually burn up, just get super hot and cause internal engine problems. It ran fine, and then suddenly it didn't. I stopped it as soon as I saw. Somehow it was broke.

>>135995981
Redpill me on getting an electrician certification and becoming an electrician

>>135996046
Oh thx, have you ever been on road in your life? Everybody has his wheel on white line at one point in time, if not on straight line, definitely when on curve, especially around villages. Even when you go for gas many people don't see the clearly white marked line, they just go over it to go faster inside. We don't drive like in Australia where you got 100 miles straight wide road. When you taking exam you always go narrow roads, always have to turn left. Driving instructors here don't know what straight line for more than 1 minute is or what turning right is, they always want you to cross somebody's path.

>>135996277
Drink a bit less and learn some fucking lane discipline, shit.

>>135968477
There's no reason to live in an ethnically diverse country.

>>135996188
People that don't have certifications are not guaranteed to have the knowledge to wire stuff up to not destroy your property and kill you and your family.

>>135996188
I'm not an electrician myself, however I work alongside electricians. I can tell you that being an electrician pays extremely well and will pay even more in the next 10 years. Certified electricians are in very high demand since the majority of US citizens are so focused on going to college and not trade schools and this trend is continuing to grow. Become a certified electrician and in the next 25-30 years you'll be one of the few people who can retire with a solid pension.

Also, I don't know of any company (big or small) that would hire an electrician who isn't certified, it's a huge liability.

>>135988794
This mentality will lose in the end. Who knows if/when any of that will even happen and if it doesn't, well, then you've wasted so much time

>>135996335
Says a guy who never been on road and has acceptance level for alcohol in blood the highest on planet. Besides that you drive on wrong side of road with your automatic cars. Any grandma who never been in car can drive like you do. Whenever i see foreigners here they break all the laws on road, especially on roundabout.

>>135996515
Would they even be allowed to?

>>135996584
Fucking lol m8. Pick one side of the road and stay on it.

>>135969007
Fellow /o/tist here, everyone defending automatic is definitely not a man.

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>>135996678
Look at your driver, straight and 90 degrees curves and he crosses the white line. What a dumbass and it even says London on road. Game over Britbong.

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>ITT dumb niggers that think self driving cars will be sentient and attempt to end humanity

>>135996913
It's clearly a paki m8

>>135997013
ITT: dumb leaf who seeks to be cucked by a fucking A.I.

>>135997179
do you actually believe the car are going to come alive and kill us?

>>135984660

Specially with how nigs and muslims act here. Despite what the quran says muzzies lovw to drink and drive. It's pretty much a past time for them

My car sets me back about 2 months wages a year ( Insurance, taxes, maintenance and gas). Add the purchase to that and you're coming at a pretty hefty price tag. I think this is gonna be my last car. Not too long ago, 2 cars for a medium income household was pretty normal. Cars will be the first thing to go. (((they))) can have it.

>>135971396
This.
I live on the outskirts of Toronto so I have an automatic for going to and from school, but I fucking take the bus to toronto and subway/walk around Toronto. Traffic is fucking insane there.

>>135989647
As someone who was insanely nervous about driving growing up due to a bad experience, drivers ed really fucking helped me. I could barely go 50km without being paranoid and now I go 120km down back roads. The in car will help you, trust me.

>>135989665
To be honest we aren't driving on 3 ways straight line at 50 km/h.
We are literally piloting compared to you, no wonder why you call a dumb shit like NASCAR a "race".

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Also why the fuck are we bothering with automated cars? There's no point, why not focus that effort and time into space travel. You know, something that would actually benefit mankind?
>Wanting to ride in an automated car from point a to point b, instead of controlling said car from point a to point B
>Not wanting to drift your manual transmission space ae86 around Saturn's rings.
Automated driving is a waste of fucking time.

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>>135969329
FOR YOU

>>135988974
Yeah fuck old people on the road. I see these fucking old people, in their shitty old Ford's and Suzuki's, anxiously clinging to the right-most lane at 85kph, can't even see over the steering wheel. They never let you merge onto the highway. It's common courtesy to move to the middle lane when you see someone's trying to merge, or at least release the throttle so they can pass you, but these old people NEVER do any of that since they don't have the slightest clue as to what's going on around them.