>yfw the moment you realized God is real

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>yfw the moment you realized /pol/ has gone to shit

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>>135954101
>yfw you realize there is more evidence supporting the lack of a jew sky god daddy

>>135954394
that moment was years ago i dont recall the face i had at that point

>>135954101
>Universe exists
>Universe causes humans to exist
>Humans distil all of their wisdom of thousands of small tribes competing and combining over 100,000 years into tomes of instruction; containing stories of the strongest archetypes of the ideal human and way of acting
>Regardless of whether God is a first actor, creating the universe, some sort of idealized pantheistic uber-conciousness, or just the universe itself... it still created the Bible and an ideal human called Jesus

>TFW I no longer hate these threads

>>135954789
I need to get off this board.
The shit. It's too much.

>That moment when you realize
>GOD ISRAEL

>>135955100
You can rationalize your way back to belief and go find a qt virgin at a local church

Probably the best course of action unless you really can't find any way of reconciling God with the suffering in the world.

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>>135954101
God is just a shallow concept used to control the drone population. There's three abrahamic religions to choose from depending on a country's culture and race.

All of em allow religious leaders the opportunity to fuck kids. If pizza gate scares you, then look at your church and learn how you're enabling child rape.

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>YFW the moment you realize God Israel

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>tfw you realize homosexuality isn't a sin

Either that or God forgot to add it in. But that can't be cause then God would be making a mistake ans it's not like he makes several of those in the Bible.

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>>135954101
fucking newfags
its

>yfw you realize god exists

>>135954101
Yup, a whale literally spit out a human being alive.

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>>135955675
you fucking faggot stop sucking dick and getting your ass destroyed, it's for your own good you mentally ill... faggot

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>>135955079
It also created the stories of Muhammad so your point is immediately moot. Obviously you've thought about it (judging by your acknowledgment of different ideas of God), but that just points to all of these religious ideas being a product of natural selection. Many religions go in, only the ones that can adapt survive.

>>135954101
post yfw you realize that regardless of whether or not a god exist, it doesn't mean that your religion is correct, nor does it mean that there's a silly afterlife.

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>>135955100
I pointed that out earlier today and got yelled at by some german faggot that lasted 100 replies. He couldn't read sentences

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>>135954101

I miss this meme

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>>135955966
>tfw only the semetic religions survive, and the only one that makes sense is Christianism
yall burning in hell if no repent and accept Christ as savior

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>>135954394
>>135954685
>>135954706
>>135954789
>>135955079
>>135955100
>>135955352
>>135955498
God is nature. The bible makes perfect sense in this context. Only dumbasses anthropomorphize in order to make the idea understandable. You know who you are.

>>135956288

I'm literally taking a shit on the toilet and saw that GIF and almost shit too hard.

>>135956526
>i never read the Bible

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>>135955079
>yfw entropy causes universal diversity
Why aren't you worshipping Eris you scum?

>>135956443
>yfw it doesn't matter if it makes sense, the majority of things created by smart philosophers like the ones that created the bible makes sense

>yfw you realize that even if following christianity is the absolute best way to live your life by, it doesn't automatically mean that what it has to say about an afterlife or a god is true because no human has ever came across that entity, and it's all logical assumption through the thought of man himself.

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>>135956664
cite one passage of the bible regarding a description or action of god that you think doesnt support my claim.

Faguette.

>>135954706
There actually is a fair amount of evidence for the existence of god with a basic understanding of physics and id be happy to explain it to you. But in all likelihood you don't really want to be told you are wrong, so remain happy and ignorant anon :)

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>>135956526
>God is nature. The bible makes perfect sense in this context.
The evermore shrinking god.

>>135956526
The Bible was created by extremely talented philosophers who devoted all of their free time and lives to it. It wouldn't surprise me that the message behind the bible goes much, much deeper than what is read at first glance.

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>>135957033
shrinking fallacy or misconception perhaps.

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>>135956845
God literally came down to earth to teach us how those things are and people still say, MAYBE GOD WAS WRONG DUDE, LET ME THINK OF IT IN MY WAY

>>135956852
>And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness

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>>135956964
Let me guess, you will argue with logarithmic examples of efficiency and state 'god dun did dis'.

I love how gods hide in the gaps. Ever shrinking too.

>>135956964
I hate it when we get caught up on whether a god or creator of some form exist or not, because even if we find out that there is a creator, it doesn't mean that a particular religion is correct. Nor does it mean that there's an afterlife, that it knows we exist as an intelligent species, and so forth. There's so many variables to take into consideration.

I myself believe that while some religions are righteous in how they preach one should live their life, no religion is correct about a god or afterlife. I do heed the possibility that a good could exist, but the possibilities are endless. I cannot fathom the idea of an afterlife. It would seem pointless to me.

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>>135957266
>>And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness

mulitple interpretations of the words image and likeness exist. In this context its clear that it refers to the ability to understand nature. To quote Sagan, we are the universe observing itself.

>>135957305
i would love to hear you facts against God, even tho quantum physics is proving the existence of God even more by the minute

the more science dig, the more they are going to prove it, it need to be this way, the antiChrist is going to take advantage of this

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>>135954706
>"People should reject God defiantly in order to pour out all their loving solicitude on mankind"

>"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion."

Was Camus dare I say, /ourguy/?

>>135956964
Get fucked nerd

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>>135957551
'GOD BE QUANTUM 'N SHIT'

>>135956782
what causes entropy

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>>135954101
I was so excited I decided to go onto /pol/ after discovering and then immediately found a "god is real thread".

I'm very happy desu!

>>135957541
what? we are the image of God man, where do you get your context?

>>135957730
why would it matter if that chalkboard problem was incorrect or correct?
in a world without god, there is no morality. I am absolutely dumbfounded that the atheists would insist on such concepts as "right" and "wrong" after they just destroyed their inventor!

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>>135957739
The system. (ex. the universe)

It is inherently universal from all observations. God doesn't play with dice but the universe inherently does.

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>>135958048
>It is inherently universal from all observations
source?

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>>135957730
good point

>>135957541
the problem with Sagan is that he knows God, he knows how he is but he doesnt like the way he is, maybe he hates jews and that makes him reject God or something, he needs to create his own god 'the universe'

>>135957305
>Ever shrinking
First off on face value evidence in god, or possibility for god is no more ever shrinking than any other phenomenon "proven" or otherwise in the known universe. This is because it is fundamentally impossible to prove anything outside of our own existence. You have no idea if you are as you perceive you are or a singular consciousness who created a world unto itself to stave off madness and boredom.
Now,
The scientific proof I intend to give you is this. According to the laws of physics as we understand them every event in this universe is caused by another event. (Your dad drank so he beat you so you drank so you beat your son, or a star exploded so matter was spread out throughout the cosmos so it reformed so a planet was born which orbited a star which became earth) The problem is that because of this law our current theory of the universe is self defeating as there would need to be a first cause to cause the other causes that led to our existence. This (if it obeyed the physical laws of our cosmos) would also need a cause ergo whatever created the universe must have came from outside of it. Now you could argue that since time and space our themselves effected by gravity that the universe is a closed loop destroying and recreating itself over and over via an everlasting cycle of big bangs. The problem with this is that in this state the universe constantly in motion, an unnatural state of matter. As proven by the law of inertia a body at rest tends to stay at rest while a body at motion tends to stay in motion, the universe itself is subject to these laws meaning that the something must have put the universe in motion, and it must inherently not be of this universe. In our universe so far as we know there is no way to enter other universes meaning that if we assume our universe is not unique in this what put our universe in motion must not have come from another universe. It had to come from outside ofthemultiverseinwhichwereside.

>>135957959
>implying morality is definitive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_VYCqCexow

>>135957541
>multiple interpretations of the words image and likeness exist

Also 'God' in this context is Elohim, which is not to be confused with 'LORD' which is Jehovah. One plural and the other singular, respectively. I'll leave the rest for you to figure out.

>>135958176
Search the term scientific law.
A system begets disorder to every degree.

>>135957551
>quantum physics
already debunked, kid.

>>135958835
I'm sorry to say that you are wrong read the post bellow to learn more
>>135958576

>>135958835
what? it's not God it's the universe?

>>135954101
Which god?

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>>135954101
>mfw

>>135955768

It's a metaphor though

>>135958576
Hummm there seems to be an explanation how my keys were moved by a security video tape and my son admitting to it. Where do we inject god in???

GOD DID IT! God caused my son's thoughts and that caused God moving my keys!
I'm done arguing with yet another mindless jew mind tricked zombie. If you want real questions answered there are real answers at your fingertips. Overcome your bias the same as I did. Find the flaws and contradictions with you understanding then search.

>>135959426
None of what you said disproves my argument in anyway shape or form, simply put you disagree with the belief in god, I don't. I have evidence backing it up which you are incapable of disputing and quite frankly your opinion is the less intelligent by it own nature. You gain nothing by not believing in a god as proven by Pascal's wager. In truth it shakes me in no way shape or form that you don't believe in god, all that bothers me is that you se yourself as some sort of intelligent "free thinker" when you are merely a brainless sheep who chose an ideology that gives him nothing for believing in it.

>>135959426
you know what the problem is, your soul. If Christ is right, (he is), your soul is in danger, if you dont believe he died to save your eternal soul, and you dont start diggin a little about God you are going to have a bad eternal life man

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>>135955768
It probably has happened at some point in History.

I would actually be surprised if it hasn't happened several times, at least.

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>>135959883
Gamblers fallacy
>>135959853
>I have evidence backing up God
>Here go my chosen evidence
This contradicts or explains your evidence
>That's not my evidence, stop avoiding the question
A claim is supported or countered with any cited evidence
>FEDORA BTFO YET AGAIN

>>135960331
>Gamblers fallacy
>playing against the house
WELL GOOD LUCK DUDE

>>135955928
the problem with that is that christianity is right

>>135959360
for what?

>>135960534

A guy tries to run away from his problems by taking a ship to go to another country but there's a storm and he gets swallowed up by a whale which simply spits him up back in the place he was trying to run away from.
The lesson being, running away from your problems only leads to worse trouble.

>>135960429
>implying the house is living
"God doesn't play with dice" my friend. Even Einstein couldn't reconcile with his uncovering.

>not realizing the house can say fuck it and flip the table over

>>135960853
no, you are playing with the dice, God already knows, you have to choose

>>135960331
I thought you were done arguing, being as you said that you have proven that you are a liar and none of what you say has any value what so ever. But alright ill bite, How in the hell does your sons action affect my argument in any way shape or form, are insinuating that our current perception of the universe is flawed? If this is the case then all things are in question and nothing has or has not been proven outside of our own existence. You are trusting the atoms in your brain to tell you they are atoms and that other atoms exist and that these atoms make up beings which our similar to you. There are two options, 1 We have decent understanding of the universe and god is real or 2 We know nothing and everything is questionable including any "discoveries" we may make.
atheist
fedora
faggot
beat
the
fuck
out
yet
again

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>People still don't realize more and more data is pointing to the existence of God
It's kind of ironic that all the "I LOVE SCIENCE" atheist types aren't keeping up with the news from the LHC that is starting to really fuck with the idea that we live in a naturally occurring universe. Physicists are starting to leave the idea en masse and pushing the idea of a multiverse to try and keep naturalism alive by saying it doesn't matter how improbable our universe is if there are an infinite number of them.

A multiverse is a non-falsifiable theory though, just like God so we're quickly coming to a point where the answer is either:

A. God
B. Multiverse

and we can never conclusively prove or disprove either, so pick your poison.

>>135961169
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, thank you so god damn much, god I am sick of these mindless fucks,

>>135960970
WRONG. The universe says otherwise, and that is backed by 90 years of study.

Disagree? To bad. Reality isn't built off your feelings.

Want real answers? Seek them.

>>135954101
which god odin?

>>135959426
>>135959853
>>135961511
Wrong, right back at you
>>135961169
>>135961149

Pizzagate. Centrifugal force n shit

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>>135961688
>implying he understands relativistic physics better the Einstein

The universe is laughing.

>>135961900
As a matter of fact I do, because I understand string theory and its various applications, you dimwitted fuck.

>>135955696
This. The reason this troll was so powerful then was because it was autistically consistent/persistent.

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>>135957739

Entropy is part of the design of the Universe. Nothing creates Entropy. Entropy dictates how the Universe evolves.

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>>135962101
String theory is another (((hoax))). anything that contains a (((singularity))) is a hoax.

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>>135962101
>deep and deep slides the jewish sky daddy
Shit where did he go? Whoops... There his is WITH THE SUB QUANTUM VIBRATING STRINGS OF ENERGY.

Wew lads talk about god in the gaps we should god of the Planck length.

>>135958576
>>135962530
That's sort of an assumption as previously stated we cant really prove jacks shit. If the world is as we perceive though it may or may not be true, string theory doesn't really disprove god though in some ways it supports his existence.
>>135962657
Funny you mention the sub quantum vibrating strings of energy as the directly relate to my original statement about the universe being in motion. Allow me to link you to it again as you obviously still fail to understand just how wrong you are.

>>135962657
>i dont believe in quantum physics if it has anything to do with God
>later they find gravity proves God
>ugh i don't believe in gravity anymore
wew lad

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>>135962657
WE WUZ PLANKS 'N SHIT.

>>135954101
Fuck off stupid christian
>>135954394
It has always been shit

>>135962919
>>135962925
Does anyone else find it amusing how Christ cucks are spouting out broken scientific theory yet ignore established scientific theory.

I'll say this again, the universe is laughing.
I'm outta here bitches time for work.

>>135963541
>g-guys th-this time, this time I mean it!
Good go, you weren't making any logical arguments and the conversation wasn't going anywhere. Scientific opinion is quickly changing as pointed out by this fine anon.
>>135961169

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>>135963541
>science is static it never change or improves
>i just follow the parts i like

I missed this daily dose thread

for next time, it goes
>yfw you realized G-d exists

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>>135963836
>>135963927

>>135964307
looks somebody doesn't have a job after all. And is a liar, a dirty atheist liar......almost might think you were a jew lol.

If God isn't real and life is more suffering than pleasure then why live?

Logically there are two options:

>Kill yourself

Or

>Choose to believe in God in spite of your doubt i.e. faith

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>>135964780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBRqu0YOH14

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>>135958711
the self and the collective unconciousness. I'll leave the rest for you to figure out.

>>135954101
>tfw when you're god

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>>135954101

>1 post by this ID
>sage

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>>135954101
There is no God. We are part of a simulation. All conscious beings are simply independent data collecting computer codes linked to a backdoor network for data analysis. Our perception of reality is the interpretation of a virtual environment by our code. The goal of this simulation is to narrow down the best AI codes as defined by how well we interact with other programs during our artificial conscious experience. Once the simulation is complete, the programmer will analyze the data, delete the programs that proved unsuitable, and bring the remaining programs online into a much larger network of programs designed to fulfill the programmer's intended use. This is a major new theory posited by astro and quantum physicists alike. More supporting evidence is discovered every day. There is no God.

>>135966858
whos running the simulation you fag?

>>135966939
The programmer

>>135967007
oh come the fuck on

>>135954101
had like 12 of these moments, lasts < a minute (unless you lie to yourself over and over that you're still experiencing that sublime feeling of revelation and death-readiness and final enlightenment)

>>135967059
Elon Musk believes it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GZgBcRhGPqs

>>135966939
"The Creator" of the simulation (GOD) is what we call him. Do you get it now? The CREATOR (GOD) of our simulation world, that is who "believers" are talking about. Who created this simulation and why are we here? Let us contact directly The Creator (who is our GOD), they say. Imagine creating a virtual world with AI who decide to worship you as their creator, calling you their creator. This is what people do to the creator of our universe. Nothing short of surreal.

>>135967426
the problem is that you think you are a program, you are not, it's just another science fiction cult like scientology, trying to prove something with s-fi, muh aliens

>>135954101
I wrestled with it for years, but I was walking in a parking lot when I fully admitted to myself He was real.

>>135966939
In fact, understanding THIS world to be a simulation is the first necessary understanding to becoming a "believer" of GOD (The Creator). Religious people understand that this is a created world. They are closer to getting out than the arrogant people think.

>>135967426
Oh sure... and I guess you think the developer's avatars are what we call angels and prophets. Whatever. Next thing you'll say is the programmer used an avatar named Jesus to show each program how to complete the initial beta simulation.

>>135968042
>>135968059
you know what the problem, every fake religion give you an awnser about the universe, what is God how he created everything etc, but there's only one that focus about your salvation and eternal soul, they try to distract with something you may like and not see the real truth, this people is playing with your soul and you cant even see it

>>135967007
Where did the programmer come from?

>>135967714
You are programmed. That's just the truth. From the moment you were born you have been programmed in your nature and by the world to the point where you are now. This is self-evident.

>>135966858
What if there's a bug in the code that makes a loop where everyone get butt fucked by spiky horse penises forever starting tomorrow

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>>135955675

>Thinking the ten commandments are the complete law...

>>135968059
I don't think that. I'm saying that religious people and church goers are aware of the obvious fact that this is a CREATED world, much like a simulation, with a Creator whose WILL we would like to know (Why are we here?)

>>135968150
The pursuit of the "real truth" is a function of our minds. The arrogance to declare knowledge of it doesn't diminish the greatness of this pursuit.

>>135968287
this program meme is a problem cause it takes away from you your free will, you have a set of things in your life, but you are able to choose to change them, to choose what you are going to do with the rest of your life

i believe this programmed thing is just for nihilist people who dont want to take responsability for things

I choose to believe that god ended itself, therefore its existence or nonexistence does not affect me. There could be an afterlife and yet no longer any god(s). My only worry is not being able to stay dead forever at some point. Consciousness is the worst.

>>135968548
>The pursuit of the "real truth" is a function of our minds. The arrogance to declare knowledge of it doesn't diminish the greatness of this pursuit.
hope you find it before it's too late tho

>>135968293
The glitch will be fixed and the simulation reset so the programs experience no lapse in time.

>>135968622
>>135968622
The moment of self-realization of your programming (who you are, what you are designed to do) is the beginning of your free will.

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>yfw the moment that the jewish "god" is not real and the All-Father appears in a vision

>>135968622
Each program acts independently and is responsible for its own action. Only the best programs that act according to the rules set by the programmer will complete the simulation.

>>135962101
You're a fucking retard

>>135969150
what are you neo or what now

>>135966858
>We are part of a simulation
No we are God dreaming

>>135969048
>I know the real truth
>You don't
You're not even dead, yet you've decided that you've found the "real" ultimate truth (the illusion that you are the master). Nothing but arrogance.

>>135968224
The programmer is a subset of another simulation.

>>135954101
It was the moment I read Plotinus desu.

>>135964780
Because I exist and I can do things that I want to you fucking dumbass why would I kill myself if there's no afterlife?

>>135969326
it's not arrogance, the Creator came to earth and teached us about those things, our arrogance doesnt allow us to see this things

it's not my word, it's God's word

>>135969273
The movie was about self-realization, slavery, freedom from illusions. I'm not a character from a movie, no.

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>>135954101
Mfw

>>135969487
taught woops

>inb4 larp
Ok, anyone that believes in a simulation theory, but thinks followers of all religions are low IQ imbreds, is a literal retard.
Did I prove my point?

>tfw you want to read the bible but you are too tired from eating a meatloaf TV dinner

Feels bad man......

>>135969840
My bible has an audio version on my phone.

>>135969840
>>135969952
Don't ask me to share.

>>135969952
Do you play it on loud speaker in public places?

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>>135969952
>>135970025
>listening to kikebabble on audio
Reexamine your life.

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>>135969952
>>135970025
>>135970133
>>135970192
Oh shit did I say Bible? I meant Julius Evola. HA, got you niggers!

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>>135970325
Good pic, have a merchant!

>>135955079
>>Universe exists
>>Universe causes humans to exist
>>Humans distil all of their wisdom of thousands of small tribes competing and combining over 100,000 years into tomes of instruction; containing stories of the strongest archetypes of the ideal human and way of acting
>>Regardless of whether God is a first actor, creating the universe, some sort of idealized pantheistic uber-conciousness, or just the universe itself... it still created the Bible and an ideal human called Jesus
>>TFW I no longer hate these threads


Yup glad you guys got it figured out.

Now can I get some non worthless men to help me when the time comes?

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>>135954101

God these threads are depressing

>muh biblical literalism
>muh science
>but wait science actually PROVES God
>random jew babble

You ignorant motherfuckers need some Kierkegaard in your life, stat. Your whole approach to the question of faith is ass backwards.

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>>135954101
>>135954101

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He is real but I feel like He tortures me.

Which is stupid because I'm living safely in my mom's and am not hungry. I even have internet/TV and get a little bit of money every month.

He showed me He existed by turning my face to the clock at 3:33 for several nights the past few weeks. I thought He was confirming that I was gonna get that job I've been waiting around for a long time to get an answer to. I didn't get it though.

As I laid depressed on my bed calling out to God, a bird began tweeting outside my window. I rarely hear the birds so it felt like He speaking to me. I told Him I didn't understand...but I guess I'm meant to be assured in the fact that He is here.

>>135972769
Same here, (feel like He tortues me) only I am so very hungry, and cannot find work. There are many programs for "refugees" and "undocs" but nothing for regular Americans, especially not from my Church (they fall all over themselves helping refugees and undocs), which really upsets me.

>>135969226
doesnt there need to be something experiencing the simulation?

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>>135954101

>>135973472
I don't know if this actually works, but someone told me to contact a local representative about help/aid for getting a government or federal job. I have nothing to lose I guess.

>>135974000
See those trips?

Numerology is POWERFUL my friend. It's not just an internet meme.

>>135974000
I'm in the same situation as
>>135972769
>>135973472

I went into my state's goverment job system. If you late 20's white dude, you're not gonna get shit. I was the only white guy of about 40 taking the test and scored a 98 on the competency test. Never got a call back. The system is fucked. I'm thinking about signing up for neetbux. There's nowhere else for me to go.

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tfw my atheist friends keep bringing up "the spaghetti monster" shit whenever I try to explain God to them.

J U S T

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>>135975292
That's easy to counter, mansplain to them how the earth is flat. But remember to savor every second of it, there's only one time you can truly blue screen them with it. The first time!

They be like;
>Muh iss
>Muh Mars
>Muh moon
>Muh horizon

Counter the following with; night sky is a projection on the dome. Then ask why the curvature models don't work and why Antarctica doesn't have mining operations. Pre emotively strike down their (((environment in Antarctica is too precious to frack))) by showing them that an Indian coal mining company is operating next to the barrier reef.

Environment fags btfo, ball yards btfo, (You) win edge lord award.

Very addictive.