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Question to NatSoc's and AnCaps 2017-08-02 10:23:06 Post No. 135934650
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So I've noticed a lot of National Socialists and Anarcho-Capitalists seem to hate each other but this makes no sense to me (an AnCap). National Socialists and Anarcho Capitalists seem to have nearly identical views, but differ on the appropriate means to achieve them. AnCaps want to remove the state to enact their ideologies while NatSocs want to use the state to enact their ideology. Yet the two seem to hate each other.
National Socialists like to call Anarcho-Capitalism a Jewish plot, and while many of the leading thinkers in the movement are Jewish they share the ideas of National Socialists. Murray Rothbard, the founder of the movement, stated the Holocaust was made up to justify American intervention in WWII, he said Hitler's action during the time were wholly defensive, he said Poland was to blame for the German invasion due to their activities in Danzig, he praised David Duke time and time again, and in his many books on monetary history he calls out the banking families by name (most of them Jewish) who ruined America. Links for proof of his Holocaust revisionism and support of Germany in WWII below.
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2010/07/murray-rothbard-lew-rockwell-and.html
https://diplomatdc.wordpress.com/2010/08/25/the-strange-views-of-libertarian-founder-murray-rothbard-by-gregory-hilton/
So to any National Socialist who hates Anarcho-Capitalism is it because you believe the lies spread by the Jewish propaganda machine, the same propaganda machine? The same lies they spread about your movement? Or do you simply believe that the single difference in our ideologies (that of whether or not state power is useful in implementing your ideology) is a big enough difference for all the hate? I don't get the divide, unless the divide is a Jewish plot against the only two ideologies that call out their Great Lie and evil use of banking to enslave the world. I'd enjoy hearing from both sides on this issue.
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>>135934650
Last paragraph's first sentence should read "So to any National Socialist who hates Anarcho-Capitalism is it because you believe the lies spread by the Jewish propaganda machine, the same propaganda machine that spreads lies about your movement?
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>>135934650
>Propertarian = the reduction of social science, group evolutionary strategy, morality, politics, law, ethics, and cognition, to statements of the voluntary or involuntary transfer of property between consenting individuals.
>Next you will grasp that the (too narrow) scope of property Rothbard claims (physical intersubjective) lacking rule of law, and Hoppe’s use of rule of law, limited to the intersubjectively verifiable), cannot provide the incentives necessary to produce a sustainable voluntary polity capable of surviving competition against other polities.
>Once you have made that distinction you can come join Propertarianism:
>1) Acquisitionism (psychology)
>2) Testimonialism (epistemology)
>3) Propertarianism (ethics and morality)
>4) Evolutionary Strategy (Sociology)
>5) Market Government (Politics) (“Market Fascism for the insiders – meaning only markets”)
>6) Group Evolutionary Strategy (avoidance, competition, conflict, war)
>7) Aesthetics of Transcendence (obtaining Sovereignty through Agency)
>8) Natural Law: the logic, grammar, and rhetoric of all of the above.
>The normal path of maturity appears to be Libertarian > Anarcho Capitalist > Dark Enlightenment > Propertarianism.
>This spectrum describes hope (Libertarianisn), separatism (anarcho capitalism), hopelessness (dark enlightenment), and taking responsibility (Sovereignty: Propertarianism: Natural Law of Sovereign Men.)
>It's a lot harder than memorizing a few simple phrases common in libertarianism, or mastering a few arguments as in Anarcho Capitalism. But if it was easy it wouldn’t have taken us so long to write a formal grammar of Natural Law.
>We’re waiting for you. Or at least, those who can make the journey.
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>>135934650
Natsoc are highly authoritarian social democrats who want a social order entirely based on race.
Ancaps are libertarians, who are anti-state, and worship private property and free markets. Their ideology is not based around race.
They are literally opposites. Paleolibertarians have far right, identitarian cultural views, which is the only commonality with fascists. That's literally it.
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Also separatism and anti-egalitarianism are similarities.
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>>135934650
>seem to hate each other
Shills use meme flags to D&C often. Brainlets believe the shills and mimic their behavior. Otherwise, you're right -- we have no reason to be enemies. Perhaps not allies always, but no reason to be enemies.
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People like you are the reason I'm not an ancap anymore.
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>Authoritarian Socialism
>Anarchist Capitalism
I wonder why they don't get along?
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