Brit/pol/ - Vice Admiral Horatio Nelson edition

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Hi lads.

THREADKEKED FFS

>>135907705
This is tripping me out. 'Celtic' is quite meaningless then.

>>135907731
I don't know why I should stop? I'm just interested.

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N O N S E N S E

>>135908170
we're pretty much all the same i don't get what other anon is talking about

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Stir posting is coming back lads!

>>135908196
>tfw he's gone forever

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1688 was illegal.

Reposting because we should really reach out to someone important about this:

HEY YOU GUYS I JUST GOT AN IDEA TO RELATE THIS TO NORMIES

SOMEONE'S GOTTA CALL IN OR TWEET THIS TO FARAGE OR HITCHENS (looking at you, Kevin from Rugby)

THIS IS LITERALLY THE PLOT FROM V FOR VENDETTA, WHERE V IS DISSATISFIED WITH THE GOVERNMENT SO WE STARTS DISTURBING THE PEACE VIA FIREWOEKS AMD SHIT

V WAS THE GOOD GUY IN THE END, REMEMBER????

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>>135908353
NO. HE'S COMING BACK.

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>>135908321
As far as politicans are concerned,
It's timposting or bust

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>>135908466

>>135908293
He's saying that there are many more ethnicities and 'Celtic' isn't a proper term but rather a catchall.

I always thought the celts were a distinct ethnic group and the original inhabitants of this island, and then the anglo saxons came.

has anyone else got an american flag but is really british, happening to me

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>>135908466
>>135908501
But I haven't had it stirred in a long time.

>>135908418
Call in and say what?

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>>135908293
>we're all the same
wrong

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>>135908466
She looks so much like Neil Oliver off of Coast, it's uncanny

>>135908659
Is it right to refer to English people and their global diaspora as "Anglo-Saxons" or is it a silly outdated term?
When you look at the genetic and historical evidence, you must conclude that it is a perfectly suitable ethnonym even though English people also have some Celtic blood too. In fact the genetic difference between Celts and Anglo-Saxons is marginal anyway. - Survive the Jive

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Where's Eddie? I want to call him a nonce.

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Nth for Monarchism.

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>>135907974

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>>135908602
That's not the kind of behaviour I want in my christian society

>>135908771
The English are the continuation of the Anglo-Saxons.

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>>135908896
It's itchy though lad.

>>135908659
We're all descended from the beaker people in western europe and only separated genetically by about 2000 years.

>>135908803
that's the best virgin/chad meme i've seen so far

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>>135908949
Tim knows what kind of behaviour that leads to

>>135908953
1) Genetics aren't everything
2) 2000 years is a pretty big deal

White English men shouldn't be allowed to breed

>A recent YouGov poll revealed that 59 per cent of Britons think the Empire is something to be proud of. They also tend to think it left its colonies better off. A third would like it to still exist.
>This is possibly not surprising. Many of the people asked for their opinions in that survey would probably agree that they don’t believe they’ve experienced any blights of the Empire directly. Indeed, it’s clear that many people in this country (like most other countries in the Western world) have benefited enormously from the vast profits of colonial exploitation—at the expense of other nations.
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/world/no-the-british-empire-isnt-something-to-be-proud-of-in-fact-its-still-causing-harm-today

>>135909121
>2000 years is a pretty big deal
not compared to the 60,000 between niggers and humans.

>>135909121
>2) 2000 years is a pretty big deal
It's not enough to change shit genitally

>>135909121
Genetics ARE everything

Just got back from a cat cafe with the gf lads, dont know why I agreed to go as I'm allergic.

>>135909220
>not compared to
So what?
Are you next going to compare us to fucking chimpanzees?

>>135909246
>>135909271
No they aren't you fucking idiot.
Genetics are important but that doesn't mean you can just wipe the fucking slate clean because "hurr durr we're within xyz genetic distance".

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>>135909271

>>135909202
There are post imperial nations now with rule of law, representative government and nuclear power. In spite of all the wrongs committed historically, THOSE are the lasting effects. I'd say that's a legacy to be proud of.

>>135909487
>giving the 3rd world our tech
I don't

>>135909420
Because you're a beta who needs to learn to assert himself

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>>135909161

>>135909220
>not compared to the 60,000 between niggers and humans.

Real edgy lad.

>>135909436
I'm not wanting to wipe the slate clean, where did I say that?

>>135909464
Fuck off you idiot. We're talking about averages and populations.

>>135909659
You've been continuing this the entire time because you want to break down the differences that define the different nations of Britain

>>135909513
BAN ME IDGAF

>>135909719
I maintain that the celtic populations and the anglo saxon populations are what define this nation. Therefore an Irishman can call himself English if he is born here, whereas a bangladeshi cannot.

>>135909848
Am only messing lad it was a funny as fuck post.

>>135909865
That's fucking absurd, "England" England and Britain aren't the same you moron.
How can you continue this? You fucking know how nonsensical you're being right now.

>>135909659
>We're talking about averages and populations.

The whole "superior race" shit is stupid and adolescent though. The main problem with multiracialism is that people hold a stronger affinity with their ethnic homeland than the land they currently reside in, and thus will support the culture and traditions of that land even if they conflict with ours.

When we unironically try to cast an entire race as "on average" more prone to this, or that, we fall into a pretty irrelevant discussion. The point is that they don't BELONG here, not that they're any worse than we are necessarily.

Good evening fellow triplords.

>>135909970
I'm not being absurd it's really simple.

>>135909719
>Britain

I hate this term. A fucking invention of James I.

>>135909596
You won't be breeding anyway so it doesn't matter.

>>135910075
You're insane.
You're trying to redefine the English by saying that they exist within a larger group, therefore members of the larger group somehow belong to the smaler group.

>>135910101
Would you prefer "British Isles"? "Albion"?
Great Britain and Lesser Britain?

>>135908632
Say that the guy who did it wasn't a bad guy and that it's a reaction to the shit politics of modern Britain

>>135910015
Ayo warguan piff ting whtas yo bbm babes init x

United Kingdom = England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland
Britain = England, Scotland and Wales
England = a country in the UK/Britain
Scotland = a country in the UK/Britain
Wales = a country in the UK/Britain
Northern Ireland = a country in the UK

>>135910212
I say England England because you can also use England to refer to Britain and its Empire

>>135910275
No you can't. That's called being wrong and I'm not even part of this stupid argument you've got going.

Evening lads, just finished work for the week. Got two days off looking at houses in the countryside and then a comfy beer festival and game fair at the weekend.

>>135910275
Yeah, if you want to make sure no one knows what the fuck you're on about

>>135910004
>When we unironically try to cast an entire race as "on average" more prone to this, or that, we fall into a pretty irrelevant discussion.

No we fucking don't. IQ is a very good indicator of how successful an individual will be. The crux of the marxist argument is that it's all based on oppression and our response to that is IQ and intelligence. I agree with the second part too, but I think the intelligence thing is also very important.

>>135910335
>>135910347
You're thinking purely in modern terms.

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>>135910275
>The Indians live in England

>>135910120
BE QUIET!

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>>135910212
>>135910275

That isn't true though, hasn't been try since the Union of England & Scotland into one Kingdom.

>>135910152
I'm saying how we define this nation is Anglo Saxon and Celtic and therefore if one of those populations come here and calls themselves English who cares, nobody loses anything.

>>135910394
But we ARE modern, why wouldn't we speak in modern teams?

>>135910424
The Act of Union 1707 created the Kingdom which had existed since 1606 in paper only. None of the terminology changed.

>>135910512
For fucks sakes stop copying and pasting this bullshit, it's still fucking nonsense.

>>135910341
You should check out Hereford mate it's a hidden gem of a county, we have shit like that all the time through Summer.

>>135910554
Why am I wrong though?

Arab accused of bludgeoning his eight-months pregnant married Jewish girlfriend to death 'intended to kidnap her in exchange for Palestinian prisoners'

The body of married Jewish woman Michal Halimi was found in Holon, Israel


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4753814/Palestinian-murder-accused-wanted-free-prisoners.html#ixzz4ocmkIsZG


lol, too funny
jew harlot banging TWO jihadis gets what she deserves.

People of colour must be more represented mor on British history classes. Not just pasty white boys like Nelson.

>>135910612

Yeah its quite common here in Cheshire as well, think they are going to have quite a few local ciders and gins this year as well.

>>135910512
Based on the parameters of your arguement I'm English

>>135910645
You're defining England as part of Britain and then redefining English people as British people to suggest anyone who'e British is therefore English.
It's complete nonsense.

And you're damn wrong "who cares, nobody losers anything", I'm English and I lose something

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>>135910015
Hello

>>135910787
If a Belgian man moves to france who cares if he calls himself french?

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>>135910529
>>135910424
Example

>There'll always be an England

>>135910932
What the fuck do I know about the differences between Belgians and French?

On the other hand, what do I know about the differences between the English and the Irish?
A lot

Why don't you go to Ireland and tell them they're all actually the same as the English? They'll love that

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>>135910849

>>135910951
You're wrong if you call the UK 'England', simple as. If you were using those terms synonymous with each other, then you've been using them wrong and I suggest Britain/UK in future.

>>135911089
I'm talking romantically and historically.

>>135911023
If an Irishman comes to England and call himself English he is. It's not about Britain, it's about genetics.

>>135911023
They'll do what they're told.

>>135911176
>If an Irishman comes to England and call himself English he is.
Fuck off.

Are you even British? What the fuck are you?
What are your political views?
I don't fucking trust you

>>135911169
Why? England is a country in the UK and Britain.

>>135911217
They're British and they'll end up back in the union whether they like it or not, but that's a different matter entirely

>>135910951
>>135911089
>Calling England the UK
That shit needs to stop immediately and it will, we need to introduce the death penalty for such a crime.

>>135911222
>icoming pedantic reply about your use of the word British

>>135911222
I'm a non autistic ethno nationalist christian mosley style fascist.

>>135911248
Ireland is British.
Is all of Ireland currently part of the state of the United Kingdom?
No.

The point is many of these terms have contextual meanings

>>135911335
Ireland is not British, they are in the British Isles. Britain is England Scotland and Wales.

>>135911315
Pedantic?
For saying that being British doesn't make you English?
Are you fucking kidding me?

>>135911380
No, that's Great Britain.
Ireland is Lesser Britain, or whatever the counterpart to Great is.

>>135908321
>somebody might go to jail for looking at Stirgeon
pottery bro
I mean, fucking pottery

>>135911380
>>135911426
That's why we're called Great Britain.
Because we're the bigger of the two major islands

>>135911387
Who is claiming is does? You complete autist.

Ooo let go down this alley way and give eachother a good bumming, i'll go first lift up my shirt

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>>135911387

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>get home
>turn on TV
>it's channel 4
>it's the news
>it's that faggot presenter who is a national treasure personality because he wears pink socks
>it's a Live segment from their "Our Housing Britain Investigations"
>it's in Salford
>Salford, Manchester
>interviews with residents and politicians
>boomers bitching about "gentrification"
>Salford
>literally over 30% shitskin

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YE'RE ALL A BUNCH O' FECKIN WEST-BRIT FECKERS

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>>135911380
Yes it is, you Fenian dog.

>>135911483
I don't know, how about the person I'm fucking arguing with?

>>135911529
QUINTESSENTIALLY ENGLISH

>>135911426
>>135911472
No, Britain is literally the island.
>>135911590
Ireland IS rightfully British, but we're arguing over terminology over and Ireland is not part of Britain geographically, it is part of the British Isles.

>>135911677
The Greco-Egyptian scientist Ptolemy referred to the larger island as great Britain (μεγάλης Βρεττανίας - megális Brettanias) and to Ireland as little Britain (μιkρής Βρεττανίας - mikris Brettanias) in his work Almagest (147–148 AD).[20] In his later work, Geography (c. 150 AD), he gave the islands the names Alwion, Iwernia, and Mona (the Isle of Man),[21] suggesting these may have been the names of the individual islands not known to him at the time of writing Almagest.[22] The name Albion appears to have fallen out of use sometime after the Roman conquest of Britain, after which Britain became the more commonplace name for the island.[15]

After the Anglo-Saxon period, Britain was used as a historical term only. Geoffrey of Monmouth in his pseudohistorical Historia Regum Britanniae (c. 1136) refers to the island as Britannia major ("Greater Britain"), to distinguish it from Britannia minor ("Lesser Britain"), the continental region which approximates to modern Brittany, which had been settled in the fifth and sixth centuries by migrants from Britain.[23] The term Great Britain was first used officially in 1474, in the instrument drawing up the proposal for a marriage between Cecily the daughter of Edward IV of England, and James the son of James III of Scotland, which described it as "this Nobill Isle, callit Gret Britanee". It was used again in 1604, when King James VI and I styled himself "King of Great Brittaine, France and Ireland".

>>135910375
>IQ is a very good indicator of how successful an individual will be.

Wealth and family connections are better indicators, so this wouldn't "shut down" the internationalist argument. IQ is a fairly good indicator, but it's by no means the best one, nor even especially brilliant (none show it at accounting for over 30% of variance, for example).

The IQ argument, and the propensity for violence argument, mean nothing to the ethno-nationalist, and indeed help associate him with white supremacists and racial eugenicists.

I don't buy the idea there are such enormous gulfs in human cognitive capacity, primarily because of Victorian missionary writings on tribal encounters in Africa, especially those of Livingstone, Moffat and others. I also find the claims regarding India tough to swallow, considering the great civilisations and writings that have emerged from that subcontinent, not to mention our rather fortuitous takeover of it.

The most important thing to recognise, I feel, is that everybody, including the immigrants themselves, would be better off in a world where individuals tend to keep to their own kind, while still working together.

>>135911800
Take one MINUTE to google this you utter fucking mong. I don't know why I'm arguing. You're one minute away from knowing I'm right and you're wrong if you'd simply google it and stop using terminology that was never common or never existed at all.

Great Britain

>Great Britain is an island that consists of three somewhat autonomous regions that include England, Scotland, and Wales. It is located east of Ireland and northwest of France in the Atlantic Ocean.

The UK

>The United Kingdom is a country that includes England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. Its official name is “United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.” While England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland are called countries, there exist regulations and policies in these states that are determined by the UK.

The British Isles

>The British Isles is another term altogether and encompasses Great Britain, the island of Ireland, and several other smaller islands, such as the Isle of Man. The Isle of Man is not a part of the United Kingdom or the European Union, even though its Lord is the Monarch of the United Kingdom.

Commonwealth
>The Commonwealth of Nations is a voluntary association of countries that were formerly British colonies. Members of the Commonwealth of Nations recognize the United Kingdom Monarch as their own king or queen, but remain politically independent.

>>135911176
the fuck?

for one, no.
for two, no irishman would ever.

Really what does it matter? The Irish are butt hurt about the whole British thing and reject it. So it's irrelevant who is right, as the contemporary inhabitants of Ireland don't recognise themselves are British. Apart from some Ulsterfolk.

>>135911617
Then you're both autists. Irishman comes to English and says he's English - wrong. Irishman comes says he's British - correct.

>>135911958
The funny thing is you didn't even address anything we were talking about.

>>135912086
No shit he's British, how the fuck am I wrong?
What the fuck is this autism?

>>135911958
>>135912099
Directly, that you give 3 terms I don't use and 1 term with which I agree.

I already said that Great Britain is this island and Lesser Britain is Ireland.

>>135912099
Because I had nothing to do with your autistic argument. I told you that at the beginning. You're wrong about the definitions of the UK/Britain though, and you've stupidly tried to deny such a blatant fact.

>>135912233
>I already said that Great Britain is this island and Lesser Britain is Ireland.
Britain is the island.
UK is the Kingdom.

>>135910770
Too many anachronistic and inappropriate darkies as it is. Don't give the BBC any more encouragement.

>>135912054
Ulsterfolk aren't really Irish though.

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FFS what is this, geography hour?

>>135912487
One person who is trying to deny what the UK and Britain are because of his own brain dead arrogance. It's geography for a Year 3 class. It's embarrassing somebody with the Union Flag doesn't know what the UK and Britain are.

>>135912363
No, GREAT Britain is the Island.
YOU JUST GAVE THAT DEFINITION YOURSELF!

How am I wrong about the definitions of UK/Britain?
1) I never mentioned UK
2) I just fucking said, "Great Britain" is the island.
You did NOT give a definition saying "Britain means Great Britain"
Because it hasn't been used by any large number of educated people to mean that.
Because what makes this Great(er) Britain, the origin of the term, is that it's the greater isle. Ireland is Lesser Britain.

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>tfw camping at a festival in the stewards field
>can't find the toilet
h-help
i'd do a wee wee in a bush but theres people around
pic related my comfy set up with thinkpad for high brow kino and a speaker (both out of sight but im lostening to sweet trip - dsco right now)

>>135912479
Well I would agree with you, but others would disagree passionately.

>>135912487
Whoops steerpike, looks like you're actually a "arrogant brain dead" according to >>135912632
because your graph should actually (falsely) say "britain" and not "great britain"

>>135912479

Scots-Irish tbqh.

>>135912117
>>135911315
>>135911387
You replied to me as I was referring to you

>>135912725

>Bringing your Thinkpad to a festival

Lad...

Homeless squatter has set up shop in my apartment building, and people on the WhatsApp group are unironically saying that he's doing nothing wrong and that we should let him stay because he's just down on his luck. NOT a fan of London life at all desu.

>>135912800
Like who? The Ulsterfolk more or less understand they're Scottish, and the Irish more or less understand the Ulster loyalists are also Scottish.

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>>135912487
Not complex enough.

>>135912896
What the fuck is even going on anymore

>>135912680
Your post >>135910275
>I say England England because you can also use England to refer to Britain and its Empire

>>135910951
>>135911169

You fucked up the terminology, tried to deny it, and that's all this discussion was about between me and you. I don't know what the original argument was nor do I care, but don't backtrack.

>>135912902
has all my sicc tunes on m8
where the fuck is the toilet though reee

>>135913014
That's a completely different post with a completely different point and I'm not denying any of that, I still maintain that it's true.
England has been used historically and romantically to refer to Britain (NOT Great Britain, ALL Britain), that's probably why (but I can't say with certainty) everyone else calls us England

>>135913014
>>135913094
Literally completely different topics

>England has been used historically and romantically to refer to Britain
>Britain =/= Great Britain, Ireland = Lesser Britain

>>135913094
> (NOT Great Britain, ALL Britain)
Great Britain is the same thing as Britain you mong and exactly.
> I'm not denying any of that, I still maintain that it's true.
And you're wrong.

Once more,
United Kingdom = England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland
Britain = England, Scotland and Wales
England = a country in the UK/Britain
Scotland = a country in the UK/Britain
Wales = a country in the UK/Britain
Northern Ireland = a country in the UK

>>135913178
Reckon you can make a post without panicking and adding more yet? This isn't skype.

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>>135913266

I am familiar with this as I frequent chaturbate

>>135913248
No it isn't, Great Britain is NOT the same as Britain, reread what I gave.
Nothing you gave and none of the maps use "Britain", they use "Great Britain"

Why do you think it's called "Great Britain"? Because it's the GREATER of the major islands - it's bigger than Ireland, which is LESSER Britain.

You could argue that all of this is, as evidenced by your arrogance, all completely forgotten knowledge to Joe Public, and that therefore people use Britain when they mean Great Britain or even when they mean the UK

>>135913555
>Great Britain is an island separated from the European mainland by the English Channel and North Sea. It comprises the nations of England, Scotland and Wales.

What did google mean by this?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=definition+of+great+britain&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB738GB738&oq=definition+of+great+britain&aqs=chrome..69i57.4302j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

>>135913658
>Great Britain
>Great
>Great
>Great
>Great

>>135913658
I've just realised.
You don't speak English.
That must be it.

>>135913658
What did google mean by this?
https://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB738GB738&q=Holland&oq=Holland&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i67k1j0i131k1j0i67k1l2.21049.23643.0.23907.15.10.0.0.0.0.297.892.0j1j3.4.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..11.4.891.0..35i39k1.P5rT-t2tIio
Google takes common misconceptions for facts

A cum up the bum no harm done

>>135912929
It's more once you concede that Ulsterfolk are different and aren't native. That the rest of the Irish never considered themselves British and it was an occupation.

>>135913555
Great Britain is really Greater Britain, compared to Lesser Britain (modern day Brittany). The language has evolved over the years.

>>135913987
Lesser Britain isn't Britanny though, it's Ireland

>>135913740
Britain = England, Scotland and Wales
(Great) Britain = England, Scotland and Wales

>>135913768
You're the worst fucking person I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with on here. You start by using "England" synonmously with the United Kingdom and Britain and somehow drag this joke of a fucking quarrel that could've been settled through thirty seconds on google and descend it to the levels of "Great Britain and Britain are not the same thing" all the way from your post here: >>135910275

You're wrong.

>>135913837
This time it isn't.

>>135914105
>The "Great" had to be appended to "Britain" mainly to distinguish it from Brittany - also known as Britannia minor, or lesser Britain, the French peninsula that had been settled in the fifth and sixth centuries by Celtic immigrants from the British Isles.

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>>135912938
Why not simplify it?

>>135914197
England Wales*
You're even confusing me you fucking mong.

>>135914197
No, Great Britain = England, Scotland and Wales
Why don't you reread every link you fucking gave?
They all agree with me.

>You're the worst fucking person I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with on here. You start by using "England" synonmously with the United Kingdom and Britain
I already said, England WAS (i.e. is not synonymous with, it has been used for and had a subdefinition of) used HISTORICALLY AND ROMANTICALLY to refer to the UK. This is an OBSECURE CONTEXT compared to whatever you're used to.

The Great Britain/Britain thing is another argument, in which I am also right.

>>135914318
>Just Earth
Andromedan shill OUT

>>135914245
I guess I'm wrong on Ireland then, what was it called back then?
It was still grouped under the British Isles

>>135914613
Hibernia

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>>135914318
You cannot prove hat the universe doesn't look like this from the outside

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I fucking love King of the Hill.

>>135914456
No, you used England synonymous with United Kingdom, Britain and Great Britain, tried to tell us we were thinking too "modern" and dragged the argument out through fallacies until it descended to the levels of Great Britain vs Britain which, England + Wales (Britain - >>135914456), Scotland + Wales + England (Great Britain), Scotland + Wales + England + NI (United Kingdom).

Your posts.
>>135910275
>I say England England because you can also use England to refer to Britain and its Empire
>>135910394
>You're thinking purely in modern terms.

Anything beyond that was on the Anglo Saxon discussion which I wasn't apart of. I came in with the terminology not giving anybody a (You) as I didn't know the context, only people were misusing it. YOU responded to me saying "I use England to mean the whole of Britain" and this is where you've dragged this clusterfuck to. You're wrong, on the extremely simple matter of using England to define the entire UK and this will be the last (You) you receive of me intentionally.

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>>135908803
Oi cunt.

>>135914968
I've told you well before, these are DIFFERENT ARGUMENTS.
There's a post where I say nothing except to distinguish between these two conversations.

I still maintain that England has been used historically and romantically to refer to the UK.

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>>135915101
Hello lad.

went to smyths for a cheeky look at the pokemon shelf and grabbed a maccy d's lads. How's your day been?

>>135914968
Oh, and every single definition you gave was Great Britain (ignoring the terms I didn't actually use).

So how exactly does that help an argument distinguishing between Britain and Great Britain?
It doesn't.

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/02/doctor-from-romford-charged-with-118-sexual-offences
>immigrant doctors are what make our Enn Achh Esss

>>135915403
You made me give your ridiculous posts another (You) >>135914322

>>135915744
Checked. Archived it for you.
https://archive.is/ko6Nc

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How do we resolve our current constitutional crisis of parliamentary democracy versus direct democracy caused by the Referendum?

>>135915753
on the other argument:

Literally the first 3 posts
In one of them I give an example.
Do you think that "There'll Always Be An England" ONLY refers to the region bordered by Wales, Scotland the sea and the channel?

>>135910275
>can use
>>135910394
>You're thinking purely in modern terms.
>>135910951
>formerly used synecdochically to refer to the whole United Kingdom, but this usage became rare early in the 20th century

>>135916046
Abolish parliament, democracy doesn't work

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Will 2020 spell the end of the Conservative Party if it is defeated?

>>135916046
i dont know alot about politics give me a run on the problem please desu

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>>135916046

It's simple, we hang Parliamentarians.

>Rashan Charles 'did not swallow controlled substance'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40806597

THE PLOT THICKENS

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>>135916284
With the twitter handle edited out

>>135916334

Sadly there will be no proper riots as the weather is crap at the moment.

>>135916209
Are you, dare I say it, advocating a...a new machine?

>>135916219
After THINGS, no. Plus there's 150 seats that won't ever vote anything but tory, and on top of that another 50 that would vote Lib Dem but won't because of the current state of it.

>>135916209
How do we "abolish" parliament? This is a real issue we should look for answers on.

>>135916240
Britain is a parliament democracy. The Remainers were actually right in saying the Referendum was constitutionally enforcable and was not legal. We are not a direct democracy, thus it has caused an immense issue with our system and the precedent for similar situations where a Referendum may be used.

I want to see the EU nuked, for the record. I'm not pro-Remain.

>>135916496
>constitutionally enforcable
unenforceable*

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Is there actually an anonymong argument right now about the difference between Great Britain and Britain? Fucking lel

>>135916449
No, monarchy is fine

>>135916496
How do you think we abolish parliament?
One way is for the Queen to have her armies blow it up

>>135916284
It's not Parliaments fault it's shit, it's the electorates.

>>135916566
I guess Britanny haven't really cared about being included in the past few centuries, so I'm wrong on that

I still maintain the other one though

>>135916584
>How do you think we abolish parliament?
>One way is for the Queen to have her armies blow it up
AKA
>I know nothing about Britain's monarchical system

How will the Queen feasibly dissolve the parliament?

>>135916566
It wasn't an argument.

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>>135908055

>>135916209
What would you suggest we replace it with?

A monarchy? That really worked well last time....

And do you really think the current royal family after Charles isn't completely cucked?

>>135916693
>How will the Queen feasibly dissolve the parliament?
By telling her armies to blow it up

>>135916755
Yes, the monarchy DID work well last time.
Good observation!

>>135916627
It's (((FPTP)))

>>135912487
>British Isles
>British Islands

What the fuck?

>>135916818
Steerkike said you work for a political party right? Black Panthers is it?

>>135916818
No it's not, the electorate is literally retarded.

>>135916835
This is what happens when you let people become definitionfags.

They absolutely refuse any other kind of usage because they have a fetish for dictionaries.

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>>135916714
Darjeeling should be replaced with best GuP

>>135916755
We already have a monarchy. No laws were changed or appealed, no court or assembly has restricted the Queen's powers since 1688 and 1707. All of this still remains in place IN THEORY. Our system right now is mutilated without the Monarchs role filled and assigned to a few ministers.

>>135916817
>I don't understand the precedent
Anyone here got a non-LARPing answer that doesn't include the Queen blowing up parliament?

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>>135916835
>You mean islands inside islands

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REMINDER: These are the people posting on /pol/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqerF-_DN38
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqerF-_DN38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqerF-_DN38

>These are the people calling you a "cuck"
>These are the people claiming they're superior
>These are the virgins wondering why they can't get laid and blaming "muh white genocide"

It's time to stop posting here for me, I think.

They're all like that kid out of that movie "Role Models", lol

>>135916835
>>135916956
I imagine that this is what's happened

>UK = Britain
>What UK rules = British
>British islands

>British Isles is already defined

>>135916920
>No it's not, the electorate is literally retarded.
A large proportion of it is, but there's ~20% that know what's up.

>>135916983
>The Precedent

IT'S
A
SPOOK

>>135914854
Our race in the far future figures out time travel and interstellar colonisation.
Colonises the stars and leaves the niggers in the Sol System.
Due to our knowledge of time travel our race (in the future) exists in the present time

>tfw your descendants may be out there, right now.

>>135917036
Having parliament answer to the electorate solely is a colossal failure.

>>135916919
>Black Panthers
AHAHAHAAHAHAHA
I had to google it to find out what it was

>>135916334
Holy shit when this is known are we gonna have a happening
>>135916496
is a direct democracy where people vote and shit happens instead of people voting then parliament all bitching at each other for 3 years; they way i see it democracy can't truly work because the majority of people don't know enough about what's happening in this country but thats not even the main problem i think we need laws in place which make it illegal for politicians to make promises they can't keep as then stuff would actually get done as the politicians would have to do what the people want. We should go back to a monarchy or atleast have the whole of the nation voting on changes instead of parliament

>>135916584
how does monarchy even work then? i thought monarchy had parliaments or something similar to help run thing

>>135916997
Oi oi! me and Steerkike already posted all that during comfy hours last night. Get your own material.

>>135917036
You're a nigger faggot.

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>>135908055
it never left, just had a nap

>>135917156
We go back to a nobility system.

Honestly, parliament isn't even the main problem.
The main problem is the destruction of the class system.

>>135917191
Shut the fuck up faggot

>>135917139
>is a direct democracy where people vote
Yes.
>and shit happens
No. It's as useless as parliamentary democracy when on its own.

Britain has had lingers of democratic since prior to the Roman Invasion, but for a more modern standing point, since parliament first convened in the 13th century.

>>135917098
>Having parliament answer to the electorate solely is a colossal failure.
The colossal failure is cucking the 2 other bodies

>>135917098
>Having parliament answer to the electorate solely is a colossal failure
Who else are they supposed to answer to? a german old lady in a crown?

>>135917289
>2 other bodies
Lords and?

Going to keep posting about how I hate living in central London and how I dream of moving to south-west London, but never going to actually do it because moving is too much effort

>>135917389
The crown.

>>135917156
The Monarch is run through ministers and Governor Generals.

>>135917331
Yes, the way our constitutional framework has been set up over the course of 1000 years has developed the system where the Monarch holds checks over Parliament through their Prerogative powers.

>>135916997
These people use Rddit not /pol/, they don't say nigger

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>>135917258
Calm down love, no need for expletives.

>>135917461
>>135917389
Are you retarded? It's executive and legislator. Lords is part of parliament you utter fucking retard. And you claim to work in politics C O P E you nigger faggot cuck cunt nonce retard

Anons what are the best reading materials to understand politics and also get a rundown of whats happened in the uk in the past century

>inb4 lurk more

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>Doctor, 47, is charged with 118 sexual offences including assaulting a child under 13

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4754576/Doctor-47-charged-118-sexual-offences.html

>>135917744
Here >>135908039

>>135917808
I wonder if we can extend this principle.
Can we get people in /ptg/ banned for posting awoo?

>>135917744
The Abolition of Britain

>>135917587
Context for that image please.

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>>135917448
Take the commute pill.

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i miss enoch powell lads

>>135918071
He's dead

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>>135918071
I miss Alfred the Great.

>>135917641
You know damn well what I meant, apart from delaying a few bills from time to time what has the Lords done of significance recently?

>>135908501

>skimmed milk

What a faggot.

die out limeys

Some right wankerbobs atm

>>135917448

>redirect mail for 6 months
>put stuff in a van

>>135917448

Fuck London all together, I only tolerate spending 3 nights a week there for the pay.

The patricians choice is to commute there on a Monday morning and leave on a Thursday.

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>>135918265

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how are you lads ? i might make my my dragonball figures fight

>>135917767
They've won anon.
The ethnic British people do not even have their own identity. You will fade into the night, muslims will inherit Britain.

>>135918058
It just seems so miserable desu, even though I could commute from a nice area in exactly the same time as it currently takes me to walk from my shit area, there's just something about having the ability to walk that's much more preferable

>>135918365
Exactly, who wants to go through all that nonsense?

>>135918432
Interesting, whereabouts do you live for the rest of the time? And what accommodation do you go for when you are in London?

>>135918432
Where do you live? The whole rail system is designed for quick travelling to London

>>135918556
Not the only natives being pushed out as those foreign elements that resent them report acts of patriotism to the authorities

>>135910212

Your forgot the British Isles, which includes Ireland.

>>135917960
Thanks getting the ebook now
>>135917835
I thought this list was about law

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I hope she is President one day

>>135912487
Northern Ireland = British

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How do we restore the constitutional duties of the Crown?
>>135918745
Caselaw, acts of parliament and books/studies/other shit that is of relevancy. The additional reading category particularly. Though someone suggested the Abolition of Britain which may be better, pic may be too heavy to start off on.

I'm telling you guys, Parliament is a fucking spook, watch what happens if the defence forces stop listening to it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-40804531

scots getting savage, you really can see the difference between flouridated populations and non flouridated ones

scots still have the rapey, violent behaviour the rest of Europe and UK lost

it will save them

>>135918550
Hi Kana

>>135918988
Parliament is absolute and this was inevitable after 1688 and indefinitely completed by Victoria's reign.

>>135919100
You can say this all you want but at the end of the day if we were occupied (inb4 america) it doesn't really matter whether or not someone says it's legitimate

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Should Britain have an entrenched constitution with respect towards our law and tradition?

>>135919206
No.

>>135918931
I swear the government have chipped away at what power they had and now they can't do alot

>>135919201
So basically, you're just spitting out hypotheticals and LARPing on the topic? The fact is Parliament is absolute in its placement and supreme, in practice the electorate only governs parliament which is divided into secure voter blocs.

>>135919285
Agreed. Just making discussion.

>>135918048
Think Kurtz in Heart of Darkness.

>>135919344
How is this hypotheticals or LARP?
Nobody fucking likes Parliament

hahahahahahahahahah of course stupid lower class subhumans are gonna fall for the bluepill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE7Azq4iaMk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE7Azq4iaMk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE7Azq4iaMk

>>135918613
>>135918628

Live in Cheshire, so I get the train from Stockport or Wimslow.

Takes normally around 1 hour 50 minutes from Wimslow, I have a quicker commute than some people who actually live in the centre of London to get to the office.

>>135918772

If so, she'd be the sexiest President even in American history. She is so beautiful.

>>135919471
Your first act of business was to get the Queen to blow up parliament and then to have our armed forces simply lay down arms and not obey the governing body of our country for the last two centuries (no matter how unconstitutional). None of these are feasible answers as to how to restore the precedent of an active monarch, or how a monarch could use their Pregorative powers and actually dissolve/prorogue parliament (which IS legal).

>>135919611
>unconstitutional
The revolution was unconstitutional

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>>135919049
she is too cute. i want to play halo with her.

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>>135917587
What do think was going through his mind and how uncomfortable was he doing this?

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>>135919645
I'm the last person who needs to know that lad. I have nightmares about the """""""""""Glorious""""""""""""""" Revolution.

Horatiosama.
Fuckin terrorist!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Copenhagen_(1807)

>>135919764
Then what makes you think that deposing Parliament is unconstitutional? It isn't.
Besides, we are living in an era in which nearly everything is thrown away.
Do Parliament seriously expect us to respect "constitution" when they're throwing literally everything out except their own growing power?

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Is Nige just keeping a low profile until he inevitably gets his Lordship or knighthood?

>>135919907
civic

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got a banging migraine lads

>>135920013
>using an anime image on /pol/
You don't want to get banned, do you?
Put that away!

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>>135919977

>>135920109
UKIP should literally rename to CIVIC

>>135919710
I would let her play halo ON me
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=432374551

>>135919024

What the scots need is to stop drinking and injecting heroin all the time

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>>135919889
>Then what makes you think that deposing Parliament is unconstitutional? It isn't.
I said parliament was unconstitutional, not the act of dissolving or proroguing a parliament which is part of the legal Pregorative duties of the reigning monarch.

>Do Parliament seriously expect us to respect "constitution" when they're throwing literally everything out except their own growing power?
Parliament are not obeying the British Constitution through their supremacy. The act of Royal Assent is now devolved to ministers, who approve and sign it, the appointment of PMs when not completed by the electorate is done on ministerial advice or advice of the ex-PM, Queen's Consent is acted on by ministers, etc.

The Queen's Governor Generals hold more power than her and that is the god honest truth. In 1975, the Queen's Gov Gen fired the Australiam PM in response to a government shut down.

>>135919581
Ouch, that's a bit long to do in the evenings
Mine's 1 hour 15 minutes

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Rare UDR Enoch:

We have been told Powell occasionally joined UDR soldiers on patrol and at vehicle checkpoints in the then heavily militarised warzone around the border in south Armagh.

“Enoch Powell patrolled the border with the UDR a number of times,” a former Ulster Defence Regiment soldier told us this week.

“Enoch Powell loved going out with the UDR on patrol or manning checkpoints. He had been a brigadier in the army and commanded great respect,” a former soldier told us.

“He believed the army and the UDR in particular were the frontline troops facing down the IRA around the border and he wanted to identify with them.

“The men loved it when Enoch Powell arrived at our base. There was great competition among the soldiers to see who was going to accompany him on patrol.

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/photo-mp-enoch-powell-joined-udr-troops-for-patrol-in-1970s

>>135918071

>>135920221
Well you get the point, it's tyranny

>>135919977
Looks like banter but I reckon he's a lot more right wing than he lets. He just likes to appear respectable and doesn't want to make the same mistakes as Enoch. I hope the rumours of him chuckling over his initials N.F when he was younger are true.

>>135920376
They aren't mistakes, they're necessity.
Civic achieves nothing

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Anyone got the ebook for Abolition of Britain??

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>>135920151

>>135920431
No but I can send you 2.5Mb PNG images of each page one by one if you give me time to charge my camera's battery

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>>135918613

Commuting.
Inbound:
>comfy nods and conversation at station
>gets a seat immediately
>banter with train staff as they are just drifitng through the carriages with no need to ask for tickets as they know us all
>half the broadsheet is read by the time we hit the first suburb, old tom has normally done his crossword too (he shouts out to the carriage for help if he is stuck)
>train starts to fill, all stood and looking miserable
>option to stand and score easy points with totty

Homebound:
>train full of miserable faces
>normally have abit of banter with staff on boarding
>train starts to empty of les miserables
>seats appear (i normally wait for my preferred seat)
>train 95% empty at last suburb station
>staff start walking and banterring again
>usual faces talk about their day, plans for weekend etc
>old tom normally has a snooze as he goes tot he last stop anyway
>dismal suburbs open up to glorious english countryside (peak district)
>text the missus to see what she feels like doing, pub dinner or home
>wish everyone good evening as I leave the train
>pause to breath in local air as I depart

The yearly ticket is factored into my wage too. Commuting is not bad at all.

>>135920429
Powell wanted to be Prime Minister, Nige just wants to leave the EU, so he doesn't have to be as full on. I agree though that Enoch didn't actually do anything wrong, it was his Tory party that fucked him over.

>>135920307
too good for this world, we didn't deserve him

>>135920629
>Leave the EU
>Multiply migration by 3
brilliant

Ann Widdecombe is being extremely redpilled on talkRADIO right now.

>>135920629
>>135920684
honestly it would've been better to campaign against CIVICs and get a party into power who could do both

>>135920684
Blame the Tories and Labour. Nige isn't responsible for their jewry.

>>135920778
Did he not campaign on

>waaah all these white immigrants
>lets get some nigerians!

>>135920701
Is the secret to the redpill, an extreme lack of sex?

>>135920227

My uncle did a daily commute from just outside of cardiff to london. All 1st class, the jammy sod.

>>135920607
If true, sounds relatively comfy desu. If I got to my preferred location I'd only be commuting for about 15 minutes on the train and an extra 5 on the tube, so I doubt I'd form those same sorts of lifelong bonds.

>>135920431
fucking hell lad you just made me shoot snot out my nose

>>135920823
No he just said a load of bollocks about not discriminating against other immigrants in order to attract the civics to vote Brexit. What he says and wants are two different things. Even the liberal twats know it.

>>135920547
>>135921019

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>>135920160
I honestly believe she's a drinker of the furry chalice. She seems too cool to like cock desu

>>135921049
I fucking hate antiracist signallers and these people who are like "uh i kept those further to the right of me out!"
Literally the worst people