Free your mind

>>135891592
Because it is addictive. The drug helps me make it through the day.

>>135891719

>helps me make it through the day

You can't overcome the addiction? Can you live without caffeine?

It distorts your judgment and also raises blood pressure. You're better off without it.t

>>135891592
Wearing socks is something I do every day even though it has a marginal effect on my comfort. I also will put a bit of grated cheese on top of soup even though it has a very small additional nutrition or taste. Am I addicted to wearing socks? Am I addicted to cheese?

>>135891931
>raises blood pressure

it doesn't where, wheres the proof?

>>135891719
it's quite pathetic to need an addictive substance just to get trough the day desu

>>135891592
Because I'm a professional working artist and basically won the job lottery.

>>135891592
Where can I get some Chloral Hydrate? Also, where is the Adderall web? Shit study.

>>135892116

I don't usually wear socks. it makes sense when it's cold, otherwise it's superfluous.

And when it makes sense, there's your answer. Addiction to something for no reason is fucking stupid, especially when overall it's bad for you. see >>135891931

>cheese

I don't eat dairy either. Milk is for babies, and industrial dairy production is particularly cruel.

>>135891592
It's like a narcotic it's hard to give up because you'll have to face 2 vveeks of lovv blood pressure and headaches.

>>135891592
I can only drink iced coffee at most otherwise it makes me sick. It's nice not having a drug dependency.

>>135892229

>Caffeine can cause a short, but dramatic increase in your blood pressure, even if you don't have high blood pressure. It's unclear what causes this spike in blood pressure. Some researchers believe that caffeine could block a hormone that helps keep your arteries widened. Others think that caffeine causes your adrenal glands to release more adrenaline, which causes your blood pressure to increase.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/high-blood-pressure/expert-answers/blood-pressure/faq-20058543

>>135891931
I have very lovv blood pressure my doctor told me i should drink atlease a cup of coffe every day because i didn't vvant medication for it becuse coffe is a lot cheaper

>>135891592
It does have an effect on me, it wakes me up in the morning and makes me shit and get ready for the day. It gives a pleasant slight euphoric feeling to have cup of coffee after a meal. I drink about two cups a day when I'm working, been on a long vacation now so I don't drink daily at the moment.

There is nothing wrong with coffee unless you drink an excessive amount (5+ cups on the daily) which can hurt your bowel intestines.

I drink tea, ill go on a bender for a while 4 or 5 cups a day, for a few months, then stop for a few months to lose tolerance, then drink tea again.

Drinking tea can get you drunk, it's fucking crazy i love being tea drunk at work

>>135892274

what does that have to do with caffeine addiction? I'm not talking about freeing your mind for your job. I'm talking about freeing your mind for your life, anon.

>>135892403

true, it's hard to give up. It's not just physical effects either. You will feel terrible. You will crave caffeine. You will tell yourself you can have it again once or twice, no big deal, and then you're back on it.

buck up, it's for your own good

are you a man or a mouse?

wasn't the spider given LSD in this test?

>>135891931
I was caffeine free for over 2 years. Now I drink coffee one cup every day. Take a guess which one feels better

>>135892310
You sound like a giant fag.

The point is that there are things both that people do every day and that don't have a significant effect. It's obviously wrong that everything people do regularly must be important. On the flip side, it's also not true that things people do infrequently are less important. Many things that we do, for instance, once in our lives are the most significant of all. None of these patterns have anything at all to do with addiction.

You can keep sleeping on scratchy wool and whipping yourself while fasting. Must be some sort of self-hating fag.

>>135891592
DOGGOS HAVE A SERIOUS REACTION ON MY BRAIN

ITS CALLED DOGGO FEVER
THE ONLY WAY TO CURE IT
IS WITH MORE DOGGOS

>>135890011

>>135890011

>>135890011

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>>135891592
People have a spider brain?

>>135892872
I know i do

i personally identify as a wolf spider

coffee has a benefit of multiple layers of healthy bacteria for your metabolism. caffeine doesn't really have any benefits beside hyperactivity though. caffeine has fueled innovation and economic prowess since it was discovered in the americas, and probably contributed to the rich medieval chinese economy and british empire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc

>>135892452

>iced coffee at most

still a ton of caffeine

>It's nice not having a drug dependency.

If you do it every day then it's a drug dependency

>>135892514

bullshit

>>135892603

> it wakes me up in the morning

on caffeine addiction you always wake up tired, because you've gone ~8-10 hours or whatever without it. you always wake up tired. when you're free of caffeine addiction you wake up normally.

>pleasant slight euphoric feeling

that's an addiction being satisfied

>There is nothing wrong with coffee

if you drink it every day it's an addiction, a dependency. it distorts your judgment by constantly feeding that reward behavior and prevents you from engaging in the world as it actually is. that's a problem. wake up

Who here /microdose/?

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>not drinking 40-50 cups of coffee per day

fucking CASUALS

But where can I get that flavour and the comforting heat of a good coffee or cup of tea?

I tried several decaf varieties and the taste is just bland

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>>135892962
30 seconds late, damn it

>>135893023
Not bullshit.

>>135892653

I used to drink a lot of tea. It's the same caffeine anon

>>135892779

>which one feels better

if it feels good do it? the good feeling is your addiction being satisfied. it's not real life

your real life is harmed by your inability to deal with reality on its own terms. you're wearing rose-tinted glasses all day

buck up, wake up

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>being such brainlets that u cant live without coffee

>>135893023
>>135893023
>If you do it every day then it's a drug dependency

A dependency means it's required. If you choose something that you don't need, it's not a dependency. Obviously if you took this guy and locked him in a room without coffee for a day, he wouldn't die. Nobody on Earth is "dependent" on caffeine.

>>135892247
people who do great things make great sacrifices, try doing something worthwhile instead of shitposting on 4chan and maybe you'll develop some perspective

>>135891592
If food has no effect on you why do you eat it every day?

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>>135891592
>>135891719
Stop drinking coffee

>>135891592
Now put a spider on video games and see what happens

>>135893023
>being this straight edge

>>135893023
I have iced coffee like once a week at most. I don't go out and I don't know how or care to make my own.
I generally avoid it now and do smaller sizes because my heart doesn't handle it very well.

>>135891592
If you overdrink coffee and brown soda, then your anus spews blood.

I like the taste and it has a placebo affect for me.

>>135891592
I don't drink caffeine or alcohol. I only drink water

but we're not spiders is a valid argument. Spiders don't have a fucking brain.

just let people do what they like, what the fuck is the point of this thread and how is it related to politics?

>>135893227
>caring about other people drinking bean liquids

>>135891592

Just FYI, the thing they don't tell you about this spider experiment is the one on LSD actually made a *better* web. (look it up)

>>135893211
It's becoming clear that you're mentally ill. Good feelings accompany things that are good and things that aren't good, that's true. But if something feels good, that's not a sign the thing isn't good. It feels good to quench your thirst with water. Is that "addiction"? You fucking nutjob.

>>135892481
>Caffeine can cause a short, but dramatic increase
>short increase
then so what? I get a short and dramatic increase in blood pressure whenever I come on this fucking website as well

>>135892800
>You sound like a giant fag.

lashing out, that's the caffeine addiction talking

>there are things both that people do every day and that don't have a significant effect.

if it didn't have a significant effect you wouldn't do it every fucking day for no reason. there are reasons for normal daily behaviors. daily caffeine consumption is addiction, pure and simple. the fact that you can't make that obvious connection shows how clouded your judgment is

>None of these patterns have anything at all to do with addiction.

topkek

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/this-is-how-your-brain-becomes-addicted-to-caffeine-26861037

>You can keep sleeping on scratchy wool and whipping yourself while fasting.

>life without caffeine is sleeping on scratchy wool

wew lad, you really are addicted

>>135891592
it depends, if you're depressed, a coffee will basically be the difference between getting up and doing stuff or staying in bed. It's relative, listen to your own body, not other people.

>>135891592
I don't drink coffee, in fact it makes me even more tired

>>135893720
I drink coffee, like, once or twice a year, retard.

>>135891592
It's significance is my deuces drop like clockwork and helps me tolerate other people.
You can only dream of having such healthy pooping habits. Envy my bowel motion supremacy.
This rant on pooping was made possible by the Deutsche Bank poopenshitze division.

Dude usijg drugs to better your performance is the ubermensche way. Forming addictions is pathetic, but using a drug in order to better your decision making, quicken your senses, and improve yiur cognitive skills is just beautious

The nazis were all on meth

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>>135891592
YES GOY DRINK UP
YOU NEED CAFFEINE TO KEEP YOU AWAKE. DONT DRINK MILK OR WATER LIKE YOUR ANCESTORS
BUY SCHOLOMOS ICED FRAPPE
THAT WILL BE 8 DOLLARS GOY HEHEHEHEH

>>135893720
Are you thick? I just showed you lots of things people do every day even though they don't have a significant effect. The fact that someone does something regularly is not evidence that the thing is important.

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>>135893642
>caring about 2nd hand smoke
>caring about drunk driving
>caring about kids using heroin
amirite?

>>135891592
I quit caffeine in a desperate attempt to cure my premature ejaculation which developed after starting to work out seriously.

It fucking worked. Not sure if placebo or not. Don't fucking care.

Feels good being a sex god.

>>135891592
>inb4 we're not spiders

Well, we are not.

I wouldn't advocate fostering dependency upon anything, but coffee is delicious.

the extra energy and wakefulness puts me one step ahead of normies.

>>135892939

there may be a time and place for it, but when it becomes an addiction and it affects your health, then it's a problem

also, while there may be a time and place for it, there's also a time and place for sobriety. war, for example, will raise your blood pressure. you don't need your blood pressure being spiked by caffeine at the same time

>>135892403
>>135892514
do estonian keyboards not have a w key?

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>muh 'avoid everything superhuman' who still shitposts on 4chan in the middle of weekdays

>>135894064
no

>>135893236
>A dependency means it's required. If you choose something that you don't need, it's not a dependency.

topkek, and you think the fact that you drink it every day has nothing to do with addiction or dependency? the science says otherwise

that's just your addiction talking, anon

>I could quit at any time

yah yah yah

see >>135893720

>>135893833

we're not just talking about coffee. we're talking about caffeine

>>135891592
Im not a spider though

>>135894169
>not shitposting on 4chan at 2 AM on a weekday

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>>135892962
>when given THC the spider didn't build a web, it built a hammock

>>135894169
>there is no such thing as vacation

I have six weeks paid vacation. I spend some of it shitposting on 4chan.

>>135894152
Im a vv enthusiast

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>>135891592
To everyone itt shilling against coffee, J.S. Bach, objectively the greatest composer of all time, drank a lot of coffee. Bach was extremely prolific and I don't doubt coffee helped him boost his output. He even wrote a cantata called the Coffee Cantata.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YonkJDrJXgg

We should all try to emulate Bach
>white
>devout Lutheran
>had 20 white children
>prolific genius
>coffee drinker

>>135891592
> what is concentration
Do you even science mate

>>135891592
So we should just be spinning webs?

>I never meant to cause you trouble.

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>>135891592
But a human is not a spider. Did you just try to give me an analogy? I have a hunch that this picture is pure bullshit. They were propagandizing us with this same shit when I was in school in the 80's, and I shouldn't be surprised that they are still using it because kids, and most adults, are too stupid to see how absurd this is. Show me one fucking study where an actual scientist got spiders fucked up on weed and watched them make webs, then explain to me how that is remotely relevant to human medicine.

I'm going to do an experiment right now: I'll spray a spider with window cleaner and we'll just see what happens...OMG THE SPIDER CURLED UP AND DIED THIS STUFF MUST BE DEADLY TO HUMANS BAN WINDOW CLEANER RIGHT NOW THINK OF THE CHILDREN

Caffeine makes you smarter, it's a fact.

If you don't drink coffee you're probably a social reject.

>>135892761
Yeah but she began weaving tesseract webs and bringing vorpal moths into our brane. They were paralyzed by the venom, but the experiment was deemed too risky and subsequently scrapped and black balled.

>lashing out, that's the caffeine addiction talking
Non caffeine addict here, you do sound like a fag.

If you don't have a big tolerance to caffeine, then it can be used to increase productivity when doing certain tasks. And of course it can be used to help you stay alert and awake for longer.

>>135894349
>the fact that you drink it every day has nothing to do with addiction or dependency? the science says otherwise

I wonder what "the science" has to say about my parking behavior, since, every day, I pull into the same lot and park in the same spot. Then, when I go home, I pull into the same drive way. I even park at the same times on the same days of the week. Now that pattern surely indicates a parking "dependency" doesn't it? I wonder if I could survive quitting parking cold turkey? You shit-for-brains.

>we're not just talking about coffee. we're talking about caffeine
What, you think I pop caffeine pills, or something? I don't use caffeine.

>>135893236
>i get the worst headaches without caffiene. I also get dizzy and pass out.

>>135894889
Meant for >>135893720

>>135891592
I like my two cups of coffee that's why. Helps burn off the night.

>>135893083

>muh flavour
>muh heat

you can heat up water for anything

>I tried several decaf varieties and the taste is just bland

your addiction is conflating the too. it's your addiction talking.

>>135893204

the effects aren't regular and when you're in withdrawal your blood pressure drops even lower than it would otherwise. it makes 0 medical sense. I don't buy it. if your doctor did say it then he's a retard

>>135893642

we're trying to help you anon.

>>135894232

>brain shuts down

>>135893265

we need food. we don't eat the same food every day. not the same. you don't need caffeine.

>>135893365

better straight than crooked

>>135893565

yes they do

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider#Central_nervous_system

>just let people do what they like

you sound like a hippie

that's the politics we're moving away from

>what the fuck is the point of this thread

free your mind, it's in the subject

>how is it related to politics?

if you can't think clearly then you can't think about politics clearly either. plus widespread caffeine addiction is a sociopolitical issue

~90% of American adults consume caffeine every day

>>135894349
Come to think of it, I may have had some sort of caffeine contact high from eating your mother's ass. Does she drink a lot of coffee? Is that why you hate it so much?

>>135894567
Perhaps coffee is the real reason he's never achieve the status of Mozart or Beethoven. There's no control, so there's no way to know how awesome he could've been without the caffeinated Jew.

Coffee probably caused the revolutions in the 18th century.

>>135891592
Masturbation is worse than all of these things combined.

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>>135894647
So I looked it up and it turns out I was partially correct. The whole thing started with a kraut zoologist who wanted to watch nocturnal spiders build webs during office hours so he gave them caffeine, then some other guy found it interesting so he gave them other drugs as well to see what would happen. Their research never implied that this had anything to do with human reactions to these drugs, but that didn't stop the kikes at D.A.R.E. from using it to propagandize kids.

>>135891592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc

>>135894962
You must have some sort of SJW definition of drug dependency if you think getting a temporary headache if you don't drink something means you're "addicted" to it.

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>"it's a americans fall for yet another jewish marketing ploy to buy a "new" "healthy" product"-episode
Coffee is not bad for you in any way.

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>>135895381

>no fap cultist

Pls go.

>>135893702

>mentally ill

nah you're the one addicted to caffeine. projection.

>But if something feels good, that's not a sign the thing isn't good.

If the feeling good is derived from your addiction being fulfilled, then it's an empty feeling

>Caffeine tolerance develops very quickly. Tolerance to the sleep disruption effects of caffeine were seen after consumption of 400 mg of caffeine 3 times a day for 7 days, whereas complete tolerance was observed after consumption of 300 mg taken 3 times a day for 18 days.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine_dependence

At first there is a good feeling effect but after a few weeks your body's tolerance grows and then you're drinking it for the addiction alone

you have to drink caffeine just to get back to even

I've also explained how it isn't good; it raises your blood pressure and addiction (reward-seeking) distorts your perception and your ability to deal with reality as it is

>You fucking nutjob.

>being this addicted to caffeine

lawlz. if water were addictive like caffeine then why don't you just drink water? you're defeating your own arguments. water is a lot easier to come by and a lot less expensive.

>>135891592
>if caffeine doesn't have a significant effect on you

What idiot thinks this? People drink it specifically for its powerful effects.

Were you born retarded, or did you have to work at it?

>>135892247
>Not knowing the only people who make it through the day without addictive substances are bluepilled goys
>Not knowing the people who get (((prescribed))) addictive substances only do so to keep them bluepilled

Change that flag now you pinko cunt.

>>135893717

see >>135894142

>>135891719
I only drink it specifically when I'm sleepy. No point in randomly drinking it

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>>135893701
There is no depth to the acid trippin spider's web. The vision is there, the outline of a web, but none of the supporting strings that make the web actually catch a fly are there.

>>135891931
>Caffeine distorts judgement
Finland runs on caffeine

>>135895586
He's right though

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7403660

>Liver regeneration was stimulated in partially hepatectomized rats fed diets supplemental with up to 7.0% by weight of ground green and roasted Brazilian or Hawaiian (Kona) coffee in a basal powdered ration

>but was little influenced by decaffeinated or African Robusta coffee diets over a period of 10 days

Mormons BTFO

>>135895381
Is sex, say, three times a week with a woman bad for you? What if you masturbated in place of having sex? Your body can't tell the difference, physiologically. There is no physical different in its effect. So, how can one be okay (even healthy), but the other is bad and destructive? What if you had sex twice a week and jerked off once? What sort of untold harms would that do to a man? Don't jerk off. Don't drink dairy. Never drink coffee or tea. Don't wear socks unless it's cold. This thread is for brain damaged seeking simple rules.

>>135895586
I'm not a cultist and I never posted on nofap and only browse their a few times. I had a serious pornography addiction and there is nothing that affects mental performance more than excessive sexual activity. Since quitting, I am not constantly horny anymore (a good thing).

Yes, excessive sex or masturbation. Nofap retards think one is alright but not the other which is why nobody takes them seriously. Prolactin is released after orgasm which hurts motivation. The more you are engaged in sexual activity, the more it is on your mind, and will distract from other tasks.

We are what we do. Hypersexualization accomplishes nothing and will only hurt you in the long run.

>>135895267
>Perhaps coffee is the real reason he's never achieve the status of Mozart or Beethoven
>Beethoven > Bach
Said nobody ever, except faggots whose only exposure to classical is that they took one semester of music appreciation as a filler class.
Now Mozart certainly did approach Bach's greatness towards the end of his life, but Bach had been great since his early 20s.

>>135895631
Since I've told you three times already I don't consume caffeine, you must be trolling, which is fine, because playing an idiot makes you one.

>>135895963
Excessive sex or masturbation is bad. If you can keep either to 3 times a week or less and it is not interfering with other things in your life, nothing is wrong with it.

I'm talking about daily or bidaily sexual release which is very debilitating.

>>135891592

I was under the impression that coffee was good for you.

http://nordic.businessinsider.com/what-caffeine-does-to-your-body-and-brain-2017-7

>>135892481
>>135893717
>ask for proof
>be provided proof
>'SO WHAT?'
Addicts in a nutshell.

>>135893702
He never said that if something feels good it's a sign the thing isn't good you strawmaning nutjob. In the case of coffee, the good feeling is because you satisfy your ''addiction''.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YOwEqGykDM
Here, for children like you.

>>135896237
hello?

>>135891592
It improves cognition and memory in humans. Inb4 nothing. You still can't compare us to spiders in this case. A species that size isn't going to respond the same as one our size, not to mention that many species metabolize substances differently. Grapes are poisonous to dogs but don't do shit to us.

>>135895963
Some say that different hormones are released during sex than during masturbation. I don't think there are studies into this but anecdotally don't you feel a lot better after having sex vs just fapping? (assuming you don't suck in bed)

>>135892310
Jesus Christ. kys.

>>135893751

would you be depressed other than the caffeine withdrawal? and again, if your perception is being distorted daily with false reward signals, then you are unable to deal with reality on its own terms. if there are things depressing you in reality, caffeine addiction is preventing you from resolving them.

it's like a physical habit that stresses your body and treating it with painkillers instead of changing your behavior to solve the underlying problem

>>135894014

the Nazis lost

>>135894045

milk is for babies. cow milk is for baby cows. grow up

>>135894061

I just showed you the science of caffeine addiction. you're in denial

>>135894169

>superhuman
>needing a crutch to get through the day

>>135894567

and Kurt Cobain was a heroin addict. a lot of rock stars have been addicted to heroin. the ability to make compelling music and the ability to live a normal, healthy life are not the same

>>135896503
>REEEEEEE HOW DARE YOU SPEAK AGAINST MY ADDICTION, DIE
Like listening to meth-heads or etc.

>>135896216
it is, don't listen to the straight edge cucks ITT

people who drink 3 cups a day live longer. coffee is rich in antioxidants

Because I'm an associate attorney at a mid-sized law firm, I go to bed at 1am, wake up at 6:30 and work 12-14 hours a day you uppity faggot.

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>>135896296

Hi sexxy would you like to chat?

>>135891592
I actually have a genetic predisposition to caffeine. It affects me more and lasts longer. It is almost like caffeine is an advantage to humans who enjoy it.

>>135896165

When human beings evolved our reproductive systems, what frequency of sex, do you think, was taking place? You think copulating once a day would be "excessive" for a higher primate? All mammals have more sex than they need for strict reproduction. A female lion has sex up to a hundred times per day (really) with multiple partners when she's ovulating. Bonobos also have an insane amount of sex. Males typically can recover and ejaculate a fresh load after 20 minutes. That's what your body is prepared for. From a biological point of view, what it would take to "overdo it" sexually is orders of magnitude above your threshold of once or twice a day.

>>135891592
it has effect in my brain. Keeps me awake.

>>135893211
>it's not real life
Of course it is. His brain has become conditioned to expect that dose of caffeine. It is not a work of his imagination making him feel better when he consumes it. The space where your naturaly produced chemicals interact has grown, and can now only be fully satisfied by caffeine. I doubt a person can ever truely get over it after a few years of consistent injestion. Though everyone is slightly different; an unhealthy person will feel the effects of caffeine withdrawl harder than a healthy person. So if your overweight, not eating very good food, etc. you should probably consider tackling those areas first before removing caffeine.

>>135894586

you can't focus without caffeine? also once you're addicted tolerance to the drug develops very quickly, so most of the time you're always at a deficit just trying to get back to even. see >>135895631

>>135896750
but theres a difference between sex and masturbation physiologically

>>135896716
I work hard construction labor, sleep 7 hours a day at most and still don't drink coffee like the rest of the addicts in this god forsaken country who need their ''fix'' so they can function.

>If it's socially accepted addiction, it's ok!

>>135893236
If you do it every day it becomes a dependency. The brain simply works like that.

>>135896237
>In the case of coffee, the good feeling is because you satisfy your ''addiction''.

What's the evidence for this? The fact that coffee makes you feel good isn't evidence, since simply feeling good doesn't mean a thing is addictive. Showing brain "science" that drinking coffee triggers good-feelies doesn't prove coffee is addictive, since looking at a photo of a loved one also triggers good-feelies, as does sleeping.

>>135891592
BUT DUDE MY MOMENTARY URGES OUTWEIGH MILLIONS OF YEARS OF EVOLUTION IN A COMPLEX ENVIRONMENT, THE SUM TOTAL OF THOUSANDS OF GENERATIONS OF CONSTANT STRUGGLE AND ADAPTATION.

THINKING AND SELF-CONTROL IS TOO HARD FOR ME, JUST LEGALIZE IT SENPAI

>>135894064
>2nd hand smoke
Drastically overdone. Too many people worry about a little 2nd hand smoke. Just don't be around it 24/7. A little bit every now and then isn't going to kill you.
>drunk driving
You're no fun.

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>he doesn't lower his resistance to caffeine by using it very sparingly so that it has a greater effect when required

if you actually need to rely on caffeine for basic daily life, you're either a brainlet or an actual addict

>>135896630
>the majority of people drink coffee daily
>the majority of people have an average life expectancy
hmm...

Teddy motherfucking Roosevelt drang a GALLON of coffee a day

a mother fucking GALLON

what's your excuse straight edge cucks? Are you better than Theodore Roosevelt?

>>135891592
>the Crack spider thinks making webs is for suckers
>so he waits until the caffeine spider is exhausted, and pops a cap in that ass
>when winter came,the weed spider had nowhere to go,so he became the crack's spiders bitch

>>135896929
>The brain simply works like that

That's obviously not true, though. I brush my teeth every morning. There's no dependency.

>>135896972
>What's the evidence for this?
Check the video I just linked for you? kek. Or better yet, here.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-brain-food/201110/why-does-coffee-make-us-feel-so-good
>Scientists have known for many years that coffee stimulates the release of the neurotransmitter dopamine. Dopamine produces the euphoria and pleasant feelings that people often associate with their first cup of coffee in the morning. Many drugs that produce euphoria, such as cocaine, amphetamine and ecstasy, act upon dopamine in the brain.

>since simply feeling good doesn't mean a thing is addictive
Again, I never said that and neither did OP.

>>135896716
wow, sounds shit

>>135891592
we arent spiders

>>135891592
You guys are boring faggots. Kill yourselves, there is no way you are heathy and adjusted people. Society will not mourn your loss. You are literally debating with people about drinking coffee

>>135893907

I can't even poop without coffee nowadays

>>135894647

if caffeine didn't have significant effects on human cognition and if it weren't addictive, people wouldn't consume it every day

>>135894868

if you're so smart why are you addicted to caffeine? again, complete tolerance to the drug develops after only a few weeks. for the most part it doesn't make you smarter, it just makes you addicted. the fact that reward-seeking becomes a daily exercise for its own sake (addiction), it distorts your emotional perception of reality all the time. that makes you stupid

>>135896534
>and Kurt Cobain was a heroin addict. a lot of rock stars have been addicted to heroin. the ability to make compelling music and the ability to live a normal, healthy life are not the same

I think this is the only valid way to criticize my point so I'll give you that. Still, he seems to have had a perfectly normal and healthy life, dying of old age, raising several very famous sons, and travelling all over the HRE to fill coveted positions. A very high functioning man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaNM2hiWKQ8

>>135897201
Dopamine is released, like I said, by all sorts of substances and experiences that aren't addictive. You will get a dopamine release if you are hugged by a loved one. Only a complete idiot would claim that makes you "dependent" or "addicted" to hugs, and I can't imagine anyone would be stupid enough to claim that you should therefore cut hugs out of your life to "free you mind".

>>135897271
You are a boring faggot. Kill yourself, there's no way you are a healthy and adjusted person. Society will not mourn your loss nor will anyone else. You are literally cursing at people for debating about coffee.

>>135897201

Going for a walk causes dopamine release, never go outside. Science says the world is in order, if you have a backbone you can go get FUCKED

>>135896909
Yah I did demo and construction for 6 years before law school - I (like yourself) didn't drink coffee during that mindless job either.

>>135893211
Neck yourself boring faggot

>>135894965
>>135894889

Like I said, there's a time and place for it, but that time and place is very limited. when you become addicted then you develop complete tolerance within a few weeks

then there's no upside and a lot of downside. caffeine raises your blood pressure which can be dangerous in certain situations, and when reward-seeking becomes a daily exercise for its own sake (addiction), it distorts your emotional perception of reality. meaning you're sleepwalking thru the real world. you can't deal with reality because you're not living in it

>>135894349
Mate you're a huge fucking retard.
I am a regular coffee drinker since it helps me to shit every morning. I don't even notice the fucking coffeine but I always was somewhat resistant to mind altering chemicals.
I had to stop drinking anything with coffeine for four fucking months for some weird ass trial I was participating in and guess what, there was literally no difference going from one day to another. I just could shit somewhat worse.
I don't think you can really talk about addiction unless someone's drinking ridiculous amounts. Like, if you're drinking 10 cups a day, alright, you may be somewhat addicted, but as long as you don't suffer from side effects, who the fuck cares.

>>135897047
This anons gets it.

Do you fags want to live forever?

>>135897474
>>135897423
>Using substances to release dopamine is the same as experiences like walking or hugging others
You anons are simply drug addicts who inadvertently consider it fine to do meth or coco.

>>135891592
All I know is that when I wrote college exams without coffee, I would get 60s and when I wrote them with coffee, 90s.

>>135891931
Like I need a basement dweller to tell me to stop drinking my Black tea because of a Spider pic.

>>135891592
I drink 2 cups of green tea everyday because I'm not a yellow-tooth nigger who spends $30 on a cup of caffeinated jew

>>135891592

I have my vices anon. I quit alcohol, quit weed, quit pills, all for years now, just let me be with my damn coffee.

>>135897688

Stop trying to percieve yourself over others simply through abstaining from coffee, it is pathetic. Leave it to a redditor atheist to satisfy his ego through muh science

>>135897325
Stop using the word "significant", you illiterate faggot. Dropping acid will produce a significant effect. Caffeine in normal doses barely registers. It's like putting a cherry on top of a cake. It might improve the cake, overall, by 5%. It doesn't follow that the cherry is a "significant" effect. People do lots of things that provide a 5%, or even less, improvement to their lives. Not everything people do, even if they do it regularly, is "significant".

>>135897560
>I did not drink coffee when I was doing your thing because it is DUMB, but I drink now because I do something SMART.
So convenient and plausible.

>>135897688
The brain can't tell the difference. Why would once produce an addiction while the other doesn't?

weed web looks chill af

>>135891592
We're not spiders

Caffeine does have a significant effect on me
Thats why I drink 3 cups of black coffee every morning

>>135891592
Here is the video proof you fucking ignorant racist cis males !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc

Coffee protects your liver from damage from Alcohol

literally the only reason I drink it

>>135894944

like I said, there are actual reasons for certain daily behaviors, like parking, that have nothing to do with chemical addiction

there is no reason to consume caffeine daily OTHER than chemical addiction

big difference

>I don't use caffeine.

sure, sure

>>135895450

see >>135897325

>>135895472

again, see; http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/this-is-how-your-brain-becomes-addicted-to-caffeine-26861037

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine_dependence

>>135896165
Kys you dirty kikerat

>>135897859
Nice argument addict.

>>135897876
>How to be wrong 5 times in a single post
the post

>>135898055
If the same mechanism in mice exists in humans, it's actually regenerative as well, not just protective.

>>135891592
now show the one on lsd

>>135895546

caffeine raises your blood pressure which can be dangerous in certain situations, and when reward-seeking becomes a daily exercise for its own sake (addiction), it distorts your emotional perception of reality. meaning you're sleepwalking thru the real world. you can't deal with reality because you're not living in it

caffeine addiction is also expensive. think how much money you'd be saving by drinking water instead

>>135898165

List the 5

>>135891592
>if caffeine doesn't have a significant effect on you, then why do you drink it EVERY DAY?
Because just one cup of covfefe in the morning is healthy. You do realize that they gave the spider the human equivalent of enough to make one's hands shake?

>>135898203
This is some fucking rehab propaganda

Every guy I know fresh out of rehab talks like that

>>135896089

>defending caffeine addiction this desperately
>pretending not to drink caffeine

kek, I just don't believe you, but the arguments work the same regardless of your personal situation or not

>>135897944
To clarify, you're asking me why meth produces an addiction while taking a walk doesn't? As much as I hate this cliche, you might want to educate yourself a bit. Or pay me so I can educate you, not going to struggle further for free.

>being addicted to caffeine

LOL. I drank coffee for a long time and I dropped it very easily.

>>135898055
Drinking coffee can also give you kidney stones, so I hope you drink plenty of water as well

>>135891592
I am extremely fucking stupid (don't worry virgin for life so I won't taint the gene pool). I need something to get me through the day.

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>>135891592
>don't use the best argument against me
fuck you, I'll continue taking my caffine pills as long as I feel, cunt

>>135891592
>>135891931
>No nicotine test
What are they hiding, I wonder.

>>135898071
There are plenty of reasons for drinking coffee that are not "chemical addcition".

Obviously, someone might like the taste of coffee. Or they might like warm drinks. Or they might do it because they perceive it as a social custom. Or they might do it because it makes them feel good, which is not evidence of an addiction, since many things that feel good are not addictive, and addiction is not caused merely by something's feeling good.

>>135891592
>implying I'm a spider
fuck off. I'm not a spider. I don't make webs or eat flies.

>>135896909
Maybe you're just naturally more energetic than we are. The whole reason I started drinking coffee was because I seriously can't function well enough when I don't get enough sleep. I guess to me the health risks of being poor and hating my life outweigh the risks of caffeine.

>>135898485
stop fooling yourself, you are addicted. Regain control over your life

>>135898422
that looks like a CG person. WTF

I drink coffee M-F in the late mornings without fail, and make $120k a year at 45 hours a week. I exercise every morning, I've been with my girlfriend for 8 years (before, during, and after law school), and I fish / hunt / ski / float rivers on my 13ft raft around Oregon every weekend, and travel more than an average associate attorney.

I'm in good mental and physical health, good spirits, I eat well, I don't even think about caffeine on the weekends, and I'm enjoying every day.

Speak for yourselves, you anti-coffee weirdo dick-headed faggots. I guarantee anyone hating on coffee is just a degenerate with an addictive personality and can't handle even the most benign, mellow inebriates without getting all hot and bothered. Stop being children.

>>135891592
>inb4 we're not spiders

>>135891592
I like the way coffee tastes. I have one a day. Is that really so bad? Are we going to blame the fucking Jews for coffee now?

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>>135895667

>he doesn't know what inb4 means

I was preempting one particular objection

lurk moar newfag

>>135895933

pic related

>>135895952

>liver regeneration

not a problem for most people and there are better ways to do it

>>135895963

>muh socks
>muh milk
>muh caffeine

you sound like a baby

>>135898674
The hyper-uppity soccer mom-tier outrage bandwagoners of pol will figure out a way to be butt-hurt by coffee, yes.

>>135898324
I'm dubious of addiction claims or all sorts, that's why. The same psudo-science is tossed around in every case. If we observe that X produces a dopamine release, this is not evidence of a "dependence" on or "addiction" to X. Many things that produce a dopamine release are not addictive, and since the dopamine release exists for so-called addictive and non-addictive substances alike, and for the addicted and non-addicted alike, there is no criterion at all for determining in any given case whether a bona fide addiction exists. Use patterns and dopamine response are identical in all cases.

>>135896630
>>135896216

see >>135898203

>>135898294

kek, address the points, if you can. and you don't need rehab to quit caffeine, jesus christ

>>135891931
>caffeine distorts your judgement

Lmfao

>>135898203
> think how much money you'd be saving by drinking water instead

Is this how you justify your extravagant dragon dildo collection?

>>135895450
Thanks, that's really interesting. I remember seeing some of those photos in my middle school science textbook, but of course they didn't go out of their way to explain the true history of the photos, it was more like "see? don't take drugs kids!"

>>135891931
Fuck off moralfag.

Caffiene is amazing.

>>135896750
You need to take into account novelty and the Coolidge effect. Higher sexual frequency is observed with initial pairing but this almost always moderates unless there is a multitude of other partners, which will allow for sustained sexual activity.

>Males typically can recover and ejaculate a fresh load after 20 minutes.

Yes, and most people can function fine in day to day life with daily copulation/masturbation. However, is it optimal for cognitive performance/motivation, mood? I would venture to say no given the hormonal response and elevated prolactin levels.

>>135898618
Imagine if you quit coffee
you would be a SUPERHUMAN

>>135896378

tolerance to caffeine is very quick. once you become addicted the benefits quickly disappear, and then you're just left with addiction, and the downsides here >>135898203

>>135896742

>It is almost like caffeine is an advantage to humans who enjoy it.

see

>In the case of coffee, the good feeling is because you satisfy your ''addiction''.

>>135896237

>>135899464
I would put money on the fact that changes in blood sugar throughout the day, from waking, between meals, etc. have a greater effect on "cognitive performance/motivation, mood" than the effect of jerking off before bed every night.

>>135899472
I'm fine as is lol. I also spent most of my vacation time last year fly fishing in Bariloche in your beautiful country, and drank quite a bit of mate. Good shit mate, stuff gets you jacked. Sip on a gourd of mate at 5am before a 12-15 mile hike along the Limay river in Patagonia, catching rainbows and brown trout the whole way. Shit was awesome. Malbec country & a couple nights at an Airb&b in Recoleta in BA was cool too.

OP is actually correct. The lab I work for at MIT is the one that ran the original Spider Drug Experiments (SDE for short). We're about to publish a new one that extrapolates a red meat diet in spiders to humans. We just discovered that when we feed red meat to spiders they get sick, which is mind-blowing when you realize that humans have almost the exact same genetic makeup of spiders.

>>135891592
I've gone decaf. Felt like shit.

>>135896765

You're missing the point or pretending to miss the point

there are normal behaviors that affect our emotions, that make us happy or sad accordingly. satisfying caffeine addiction is making yourself happy for no real reason other than the chemical addiction itself

the fact that your reward circuitry is being daily regulated by a drug gets in the way of normal human interaction. and that's probably why people drink caffeine, because otherwise working conditions would be intolerable

related;

https://nihrecord.nih.gov/newsletters/2008/07_25_2008/story1.htm

>>135891592
It's healthy

>>135891592
Because we're not spiders.

>>135899877
Given the content and structure of his posts, I wouldn't be surprised if OP looked like an insect, actually.

>>135899836
Mate is a religious beverage, its different.
Please, you sound like the fuhrer who was promised, stop drinking coffee and lead your local natsock party to the stars. The aryan nation needs you to be clean and healthy. How are you supposed to run a genocide if you can't even stop drinking coffee?

>>135891592
>if caffeine doesn't have a significant effect on you, then why do you drink it EVERY DAY?
I eat yogurt every morning, am I a drug addict?

>>135898822
I'm sure a happy merchant is counting his shekels in front of a mountain of coffee beans as we speak

>>135899877
What was the healthiest diet for them?

>>135891592
we both have the same ticket our parents gave us when we first saw the light.
just enjoy the ride like everyone else sucker.

>>135891931
I can live without caffeine. I sometimes forget to have my daily cup for like a week until I realize "damn today is nice weather for a cup" and then the habit kicks in again

For me, it's just a habit. Never understood those who claim coffee helps them get through the day. I can sometimes drink 4 big cups in one day and my day is the same as if I never drank

I truly believe coffee and exercise have kept me from killing myself.

I would like to see a spider's web on DMT

>>135899791
Have you experimented with prolonged periods of sexual abstinence? It is worth a try to compare the two things to see which one is stronger. Surely it is hard to remove yourself from potential placebo/nocebo effect but I think it's worth a try if you have not as from personal experience, I have found to be valuable. Almost akin to taking a low dose stimulant. YMMV

Oxygen destroys your blood cells and helps your body deteriorate faster. Stop breathing!

>>135891592
Caffeine is literally an insecticide you fucktard, that is why certain plants produce it.

coffee is for weak willed individuals

>>135900533
t.roach?

>>135900097
can you stop eating yogurt for a full month?
if you can't or (((won't))) then yeah, you are

>>135891592
>if caffeine doesn't have a significant effect on you, then why do you drink it EVERY DAY?
Because I like it and it cost 1€ for a cup of coffee?

I only drink coffee that is free of that "fair trade" virtue signaling emblem. I feel better knowing that some third world peasant was exploited for me to enjoy my morning joe.

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>>135891592
I just like the way my coffee tastes geez man

>>135893717
h'haaaaaaaaaaaa

I just like the taste of coffee. I don't always need caffeine. I'll get decaf if I don't

>>135891592
>inb4 we're not spiders

But we're not.

>>135900036
lol you're talkin to the wrong dude. NatSoc-espousing wannabe-nazi socialist "gimme muh handouts" cunts are just lazy faggots literally worse than welfare niggers.

The only reason NatSoc doctrine is even appealing to nazi-larping retards on pol is because it sounds nice to have regulations that help prevent them from being compared to others, which would betray them for the unmotivated, lazy fat assed sacks of cunt blood they actually are. Oh and inb4 "found the jew!" these Nazi larping cucks couldn't accept accountability for their own half-assery if someone had a gun up their hemorrhoid-pocked assholes. Free market societies BEAT NatSoc pussies then held its head in the mud for 40 years while jizzing on its back, and simultaneously bleeding Marxism to death from the inside. Capitalism won - stop bitching and moaning. If ya can't take the heat get the fuck out the kitchen, you pussified chodes. The NatSoc socialist faggots are worse than beaners, slavs, AND kikes - because they have no excuse for their egregious faggotry. I hope they all choke while alone somewhere, in a teary-eyed state of terrified panic looking for someone to help them.

>>135895837
>bottom left
he drew a human silhouette, the spider knows who drugged it

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>>135900781
>"fair trade" virtue signaling emblem
is that a thing in America?
anyway, American coffee is shit, you shouldn't drink that shit. Went to Starbucks once, never ever again. this is how actual coffee loks like

>>135900446
Why would I do that? Sex with my wife is good for my mental health, and good for our relationship. Abstinence is the exact opposite of what we were built for. It's like fasting: it make have spiritual significance to some, but it doesn't have any positive health effects and can harm your health. This is underlined by the fact that if you don't ejaculate a couple of times a week you're more likely to get cancer.

>>135892514
Doctors used to advise patients which brand of cigarettes to smoke.

>>135891592
Caffeine is also extremely poisonous to most insects, The effects are quite different in humans

>>135901050
You do not need to, that is if you would be interested in seeing if it would indeed confer some positive benefit. If you are happy and feel as though you are functioning optimally, I would not suggest it at all. I thought you were curious of the effects of it, I suppose not.

Correlation does not imply causation. It is likely that people having less sex tend to be less healthy in general and hence the higher rates of prostate cancer.

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This thread:

"DON'T TAKE MUH COFFEE"

Addicts.

>>135897271

actually, the risk is to the caffeine drinkers. it distorts your perception of reality, and in high-risk situations, when your blood pressure will be elevated, you don't want to be on caffeine since it causes spikes in blood pressure

>>135901300
You don't need to have sex to ejaculate. Both healthy and unhealthy jerk off.

>>135901025
You clearly don't understand NatSock then, but you are NatSock in your heart. You are an embodyment of NatSock, even the things you criticize about NatSock are the kind of things that NatSock's would want a leader to criticize them about. You need to stop drinking coffee ASAP and go bitchslap swastika-face-tattoo skinheads into correct aryan behaviour at your local nsdap.

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>>135901047
The liberalism spoils the taste

>>135901047
Hate to admit it wop-bro, but you pasta-niggers have us beat when it comes to this, y'all have got some bomb ass coffee (compared to our Starbucks / drip-made ass sludge).

>>135892280
hahah fucktard benzedrine is amphetamine(adderall) you dumb southern nigger

>>135891592
Caffeine for some reason just gives me the shits and makes me feel like shit so I just stay clear of it.

>>135897634

>he needs caffeine to perform a normal bodily function

what the hell, anon?

>as long as you don't suffer from side effects,

there are physical side effects verified scientifically; they've already been posted ITT

>>135897679

quality of life too. see >>135898203

>>135897877

>effects are not significant
>can't go a day without it

kek, and again, I don't care what you pretend to do or not. 90% of American adults consume caffeine every fucking day. the addiction is significant.

>>135892310
so then if someone said i drink coffee the same way you wear socks, when it's needed and I need it almost every day, just like I need my socks; how would you reply to that

>>135891592
Caffeine has been shown to increase cognitive abilities in humans: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0149763416300690

Pretty much all of the greatest minds from the enlightenment forward have been huge coffee drinkers

Suck a dick OP

>>135901047
that's an espresso you dumb fuck

You went to a Starbucks and judge all American coffee based upon it? Go fuck yourself

>>135901449
> you are NatSock in your heart. You are an embodyment of NatSock
So while I am white, blonde (English / Scottish / German decent), Presbyterian, I'm a lawyer who likes to hunt / fish / ski / and travel to non-mudskin-dominated places to hunt / fish / ski, and I'm proud of my white heritage, I think NatSoc nazi-wannabe faggots are worse than feminist niggers.

I love capitalism. My mom taught public elementary school and my dad was a sheriff's deputy in a large rural county, yet the free market system we have in place allowed me to do what I put my mind to, and achieve a lifestyle that my parents and their grandparents couldn't ever dream of.

I don't really like libertarian doctrine, the entire contemporary progressive / DNC platform can go fuck itself, and most of the conservative American demographic is ok, but still pretty retarded.

Fuck NatSoc Nazi wannabe faggots everywhere, anon. Like I said, they're no better than welfare niggers.

>>135899877
>>135900156
That was clearly satire, you dolt

>>135898055
>>135898181

>literally the only reason I drink it

kek, plus you're addicted

there are better, less costly (mentally and fiscally) ways to treat your liver

>>135898278

>addiction is healthy

no. see >>135898203

>>135902106
espresso is the only real coffee.
>You went to a Starbucks and judge all American coffee based upon it? Go fuck yourself

I can because you only have Starbucks and your regular coffee taste like shit.

>>135902156
Holy shit, you are NatSock as fuck man, of course an American NatSock would be capitalist, you lave your fatherland and your culture, of course you do. And you hate german-larping American NatSocks, you hate cultural-traitors, of course you fucking do, see, im telling you, you are a true born NatSock leader.

>>135902233
>I can because you only have Starbucks and your regular coffee taste like shit.

Our third wave coffee shops kick the shit out of any of your oldschool italian espresso joints (which are good compared to starbucks, but not nearly as good as ours or australia's top coffee spots)

>implying that the caffeine spiders web isn't the best

>implying that were spiders

>implying i wouldn't fuck a spider

>>135902417
lol I actually have mexican friends bro - I think hardworking, Christian mexicans who show up to work an hour early and work all day to provide for their families are more admirable than lots of fat ass white american pieces of shit. I could never get behind a doctrine that dismisses the practice of judging someone by the content of their character, their work ethic, and their accountability. If someone is accountable, reliable, honest, and hard working - I don't care what color they are. That's why I hate all the natsoc faggots on pol. I'll never my give allegiance to some fat, useless, pill-addicted white American over a hardworking, honest, family-oriented mexican.

>>135898422

Ironic, since the logic of caffeine addiction is "if it feels good, do it"

masculinity is bucking up, waking up, and being willing to live without a chemical crutch

>>135898485

>they might like warm drinks
>every day
>just happens to be the same caffeinated drink

uh huh

and once it becomes a habit then caffeine actually changes your brain chemistry. it is demonstrably physically addictive.

>>135898618

>Stop being children
>can't go to work without a chemical crutch

kek

>muh travel, muh ski, muh girlfriend, muh raft

the lady doth protest too much. and 8 years -
why aren't you married?

>>135898908

there have been numerous articles linked ITT demonstrating the specific science of caffeine addiction to you.

>>135899032

see above, and >>135898203

>>135902723
>I could never get behind a doctrine that dismisses the practice of judging someone by the content of their character,
Thats not NatSock, there is nothing inherent to NatSock that says "NatSock is only for X race". In fact a true American NatSock would have to be a mix of races by default though with a bigger percentage of whites just because thats why America is. There is black, asian, and latin NatSock, there's Native-American NatSock, etc.

> I'll never my give allegiance to some fat, useless, pill-addicted white American over a hardworking, honest, family-oriented mexican.
See? NatSock as fuck.

Please stop drinking coffee.

>>135892603

People often consume post-meal drinks to sate their (and their gut flora's) craving for sugar.

Are you having your coffee without sweetener?

>>135903019
>can't go to work without a chemical crutch
lol I can and have, but why? I perform at a higher level when caffeinated - and if I'm mentally, physically healthy, and not a work addict, and don't drink caffeine on the weekends or vacation, what does it matter? Again, I perform better as an attorney when caffeinated - and the majority of my client interface / phone contact happens between 11am - 3pm, and I wake up early to exercise before work, so a cup of coffee around 10:30 really furthers my ability to zealously advocate and represent clients in legal matters (my job).

But at the end of the day, you soccer mom outrage bandwagoners can piss & moan about the "evils and harms of coffee" all ya want, I'd even go so far as to say I'm happy you have the right to do so, I'm just glad you faggots keep it to yourselves and pent up this fiery little "homeowners association action letter" vibe for your personal blogging time lol.

>>135891592
What are you trying to slide? Anything interesting going on, politics wise?

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>>135891592
>if caffeine doesn't have a significant effect on you, then why do you drink it EVERY DAY?

If caffeine had no effect on me, I wouldn't be drinking fucking coffee. I drink it specifically for the effect.

>>135899877

>I'm not a spider

neat. still doesn't explain why you're addicted to caffeine and it doesn't dispute the costs associated with caffeine dependency

>>135899985

not really. see >>135898203

>>135900097

dairy is for babies, but again, not everything you do regularly is chemically addictive. caffeine is chemically addictive, see

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/this-is-how-your-brain-becomes-addicted-to-caffeine-26861037

>>135897201

etc.

But considering how often OP replies it's not a Slider but a blatant shitpost.

Are you Canadian and on vacation in Vermon or something, OP?

>>135903914
*Vermont

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>>135894888
Checked
Is this how the CIA created MKUltra?

>>135900204

enjoying the ride means being awake for it

if caffeine is doing the work keeping you awake, then what does that say about you underneath the caffeine?

>>135900533

caffeine addiction is bad for you too see >>135898203

>>135903166
I hear your points, and I suppose I'm in error to immediately assign NatSoc a nazi/racist foundation (which, unless you're blind / retarded, you know most on pol indeed to). But I also don't support redistribution of wealth beyond the level it currently is at. I also see no problem with foreign aid to countries that are struggling. I used to go on 1-2 mission trips a year with my church to Latin America / the Caribbean islands. While that was the church fronting the cash and labor in foreign aid, I think a federal system that allows similar programs for investment into the social and infrastructure programs in foreign, developing countries (to a reasonable, non-irresponsible level) is inherently a good thing. I put America before other countries, but I support large scale foreign investment - which, if I'm not mistaken, precludes NatSoc adherence.

Additionally, I recognize that globalism (and the neauvo chic opposition to it) is silly. Globalism, in a market sense, is necessary for successful free trade economics.

And when it comes to something like the struggles in / with Mexico, I think "a big wall!" is a horrible answer to the problem. We need to invest in social / infrastructure / agricultural systems in Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, etc. A wall is just a band aid, stimulating economic growth in those countries is a vaccine, or anti-biotic. I don't like gang-banging beaners and nigs in the states causing trouble in the drug trade, but I think the problem is best addressed by focusing on and attempting to solve the problems outside American rather than inside, because we've proven to be a bunch of junkie retards with no self control. Attack the source, and doing that requires working with / investment in systems in Latin America.

For those reasons, I dont like NatSoc doctrine, and I don't like the nazi-wannabe larpers on pol who are no better than welfare nigs

>>135891592
Because it tastes nice. Doesn't really have any effect on me, sometimes even makes me sleepy at the afternoons.

>>135897201
so your argument is it's bad because it feels good
nice to know your neighbor's low IQ is rubbing off on you

>>135891592
because i like soft drinks

really it's that simple.

>>135892310
>"Milk is for babies, and industrial dairy production is particularly cruel."

Cheese is white men's ultimate food. No other race tolerates diary products, and it takes a lot of care and skill to make and mature cheese properly. Nigger detected.

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>>135893211
i'm joyful for every day i live that i'm not a pussy, wrist-wringing faggot like you, anonくん
you clearly have no discipline and cannot enjoy even the simplest things in life without becoming an addicted degenerate and feel the need to project your weakness and frailty on others

how sad

>a cup of coffee everyday and tea occasionally is going to fuck me up

>>135891592
Where is the crack spider and his bitch?

>>135893036
Wanting to try it out. What's it like? Only thing I could have it compared to is being high.

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>>135891592
>not showing the LSD web
OP is fake news

>>135900902

decaf still has some caffeine, btw

>>135902044

the difference is you don't need it. socks keep your feet warm when it's cold. caffeine addiction changes your brain chemistry; tolerance to it builds up very quickly. it stops improving your mental outlook after just a few weeks. after that you're drinking caffeine just to try to get back to even, and then you have the side effects to deal with as well. it's a detriment

>>135902046

see above. there's a difference between once or twice and dependency

also, the side effects still exist even for once or twice, and again, in certain high stress situations, like war, even sparing caffeine consumption would impair your ability to function

>>135903550
>I perform at a higher level when caffeinated

no you don't, regular caffeine consumption/dependency alters your mental chemistry and tolerance forms rapidly.

>Caffeine tolerance develops very quickly. Tolerance to the sleep disruption effects of caffeine were seen after consumption of 400 mg of caffeine 3 times a day for 7 days, whereas complete tolerance was observed after consumption of 300 mg taken 3 times a day for 18 days.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine_dependence

after that you're just trying to get back to normal

>don't drink caffeine on the weekends

I find that hard to believe, but even if so 5 days on all the time with only 2 days off isn't enough to break the addiction. look it up, caffeine withdrawal takes ~2 weeks

>my job

you'd be able to do your job better if you were fully awake, without the emotional distortion that comes with caffeine dependency

>I'm just glad you faggots keep it to yourselves
>personal blogging time

irony, your posts are no less "personal blogging time", and in fact, a lot more so since you spend most of your posts talking about yourself instead of the actual topic, science, etc.

and we're not keeping it to ourselves, that's what this thread is all about, that's what this board is all about.

>>135892481
Going to the doctor raised my blood pressure everytime I go. it's called white coat hypertension, maybe I need to stop going there too. God forbid my blood pressure raises at any point during the day, hell maybe I can gets me dat disability check for it

>>135891592
>why do you drink it EVERY DAY?
because I'm addicted to it. uh DUH!
and I wouldn't be concerned until the spider stops spinning webs altogether, THEN you have a problem.

>>135891592
also, notice how marijuana is the LEAST harmful effect? NOT a coincidence! jus' sayin'.

>>135905490
I think they got hit by the spider on alchol, heard he got a dui last week

>>135904895

>irony, the post

I live without caffeine addiction. 90% of American adults consume caffeine EVERY DAY

they're addicted, and you probably are too

>but I could quit at any time

sure, sure

>>135906667

there's a reason to go to the doctor. there's no reason to drink caffeine other than the addiction; ie. there's no good reason for caffeine addiction

>God forbid my blood pressure raises at any point during the day

Like I said, there are certain situations where a spike in blood pressure would be harmful, like a crisis, terrorist attack, war, etc. that's what's coming to the West soon, btw

and if you survive that then you may be fighting caffeine withdrawal in a very dangerous situation

not good

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>>135891592
>why do you drink it EVERY DAY?
Because humans in our day to day lives are required to force upon ourselves a level of focus and drive unseen in the natural world; thus necessitating the use of mild stimulants like caffeine.
You would know this if you had ever done any serious or limit-stretching tasks in your life for extended periods of time.

>The only girl I needs is called basil Santos.
>Damn she fine and smooth.

>>135906897
they also probably gave the spider a 200x dose of what would be the equivalent in a human, also i wonder if doing the marijuana test over time would either let the spider get used to it and make normal webs, or degrade its ability further and make shittier webs over time

>>135891592
https://youtu.be/sHzdsFiBbFc

Mandatory

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>>135891592
Additionally, rats exposed to fructose navigate mazes and respond to things slower. Just thought I should let my friends know.

>>135907451
Mammals are just a whole lot more resilient to stimulants overall.

>>135891592
the weed one made the spider more efficient. hes going for the larger moths, small birds

>>135906932
nah, i don't drink caffeine
i'm just not a pussy like you
project more faggot

>>135893036
I micro dose shrooms during shroom season

Fucking elevated mate, literally turns you inte a super human

>>135907862
I'm stoned right now. That post sent me into 2 minutes of laughter.

>>135907451
I don't know. but I'd like to get a spider stoned as fuck and then get bit by it so I can be best dopest spider-man EVER. Just swingin' 'round, chillin upside down an' shit onto of buildings. My dope ass spider sense tingling every time a doobie got sparked up. swing down and be "'sup dude" lemme hit dat'. then fuck off swingin' high as shit. yeah man. yeeeaahh.

>>135908183
the benzadrine one kinda looks like amsterdams street layout

I like how you Inb4d the most obvious thing that makes your argument invalid

That's like if I said ''blacks built ancient Egyptian civilization inb4 dna tests''

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>>135905721
This nigga gets it.

>>135907426

wrong, it's just an addiction. tolerance to caffeine develops quickly, and the chemical dependency fucks with your emotions, preventing you from thinking clearly, from focusing on reality. you have it backwards

>>135907966

I don't believe you, but in any case, the pussies are the 90% of adults who are caffeine addicts

the fact that you care this much while supposedly not drinking caffeine is not credible, but either way you're wrong

>>135908549

I answered the objection in the OP. also see >>135898203

>>135891592
Caffeine affects spiders the same way alcohol affects humans. This pic skews the topic and assumes caffeine is universally bad for people. If you want to talk badly about something at least do your research.

>>135891592
Jokes on you, I only take caffeine pills everyday because Modafinil is expensive as fuck.

>tfw another dump slide thread maxed out

>>135909287

>slide thread

no, few things are more important than your ability to think clearly; it affects every other thread on the site.