Could WW1 have been prevented?

>>135887646
On many levels, yes. But the high-ranking officials of many countries didn't want to prevent it.

>>135887646
No. Everyone was preparing for it. The Serbian assasination was just an excuse.

>>135887646
>Could WW1 have been prevented?


yes if the faggot who killed archduke ferdinant (gavrilo philip) failed at his assasination.

or that the austrian hungarian empire dind chimp out and invade serbia cuasing the nations to pick sides.

yeah germany could have not been a-holes.

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>>135887910
>blaming germany

If they found a cure for autism and gave it to Germany, yes.

>>135887646
No, but it could have been smaller. Britain might not have had to join if Belgium was not invaded, but they would probably have baited someone to attack them, like USA with Japan in WW2

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>>135887646
Sure, if after 1870 god-damn Henri of Artois would have accepted to become King despite the fact that France would prefer to keep the blue-white-red flag... no 14-18, no Hitler, no Nâm, no USSR, NO FUCKING CAPITALISM.

>>135888080
>If they found a cure for autism and gave it to Germany, yes.


germany did not cuase ww1 faggot why is this misconception so comon?


its a long feud between austria hangary and serbia that cuased it the final drip in the bucket was the assasination of archduke ferdinant.

by a serbian gavrillo philip.


>>135888099
britian would have joined at a later date belguim was the excuze to do it early

also the reason belguim was protected was that otherwise the germans could flank by belguim the shlieven plan..

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>>135887840
>gavrilo philip

>>135888309
>Henri of Artois
I mean he's right though, tricolour is fucking shit

>>135888518
>>gavrilo philip

alright i mispelled it fag have youre laughs .
Gavrilo Princip

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>>135888319
And we fought like heroes.

>>135887999
>(((United States)))
>Blaming Serbia
What a surprise, never coulda seen that coming :^)

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>>135888677
Yes, but ... come on... refusing to be king for a shitty flag ? Come on...

>>135887646
No.

>135888888

>>135888888
Shit
don't meme on me

>>135887999
trips of truth

>>135887646
No. When banks decide what the military does, we will always have wars. Jews funded both sides of World War II.

If the French beat the Prussians then the inferiority complex Germans wouldn't have had the idea that they were a relevant superpower.
>>135888772
Don't pay him any attention he's probably a wehraboo.

>>135888757
>And we fought like heroes.


by flooding our own country too the fucking madman.

still without france and brtian we would have been overweled by krauts.

>>135888772
great argument senpai

>>135888080
M-muuh ebil germans are arming up only we anglo cucks are allowed to be armed d-damn those ebil germans

>>135889037
>topic is WW1
>wehraboos
you're not the sharpest tool in the shed are you

>>135889064
Sure comrad, but no other choice

>>135889214
>Implying wehraboos aren't also delusional about the German Empire

>>135887646
No. bu it could have been a regional or continental war instead of a world war

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>>135889037
Uhm no sweetie it was france with the inferiority complex because WE DID crushed the meme frog empire

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>>135889214
What can you expect from a muritard meme flag

>>135887646
yes we should of killed all the Muslims during the Crusades

>>135889131
>M-muuh ebil germans are arming up only we anglo cucks are allowed to be armed d-damn those ebil germans


if you did not sperg out and invade belguim britian would have left you for a whie kraut nigger.

luckely we prevented you from flanking france and repeating the franco prusian war.

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And more michel

>>135889473
these are pretty good got any more kraut?

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>>135889459
You did nothing you non country you were the snack before the real meal

>>135889459
Good job belgium. We were just collecting shekels like we always do.

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>>135889602
Yeah

>>135889459
+1

>>135889283
you do realise wehraboos have nothing to do with the claim that Serbia sparked the first world war?

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>>135889604
>You did nothing you non country you were the snack before the real meal


be neutral
>king kraut want to go trough to flank france
>deny him acces
>chimps out and invades cuasing britian to go into the war and making my little non country a place in history like passendale and we never capitulated toward you.

>>135889618
you could be neutral while we had to endure king krauts chimp out.

>>135889654
It would have been good if we allied together to defeat the Fr*nch

>>135887646
Yes. If the UK hadn't joined in the war would've been over by christmas. The UK's only stake in the war was the economic demolition of Germany. They went so far in that process that they did not only kill Europe over the course of 30 years, they also killed themselves and their empire

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>>135888887
To be fair would you want to be king.....of France.

>>135889742
Germaboo, Wehraboo, same thing.

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>>135887646
Yeah if Wilhelm wouldn't have been such a stupid autist
>getting rid of Bismarck
>fucking up all treaties and alliances (especially russia)
>trying to get muh naval power
>give austrians full support to do whatever they want
>then go to a fucking vacation without communication lines in a chaotic political situation

Everyone wanted war, but Wilhelm had a special part in it's preparation

>>135889913
After 1789, definitvely, NO.

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>>135889882
>Yes. If the UK hadn't joined in the war would've been over by christmas. The UK's only stake in the war was the economic demolition of Germany. They went so far in that process that they did not only kill Europe over the course of 30 years, they also killed themselves and their empire


will the anglo's lust for ger*man blood ever be satisfied?

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>>135889946
I have an old 1916 postcard, could you read and translate the message ?

>>135890013
Nos cantons de l'Est sont encore enfermés dans un Etat qui n'est pas le leur...

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>>135888772
Lol fuck off

Anyone who has any knowledge of the ww1 and the pre war period knows that Austria had some idiots in their military who wanted a war

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>>135889946
you have to admit one thing kraut wilhelm was a very bad leader.

hindenburg or bismark would have been much beter.

>>135890110
een fucking kut WALLOONIER.

>>135887646
>>135889601

>>135889459
Do you really think britain would sit and watch her allies fall?

>>135889799
True yeah but britian would attack us anyway even they both together were sloooowly losing on the west front against us and without britians help france would be crushed
And i don't think britian wants this to happen because the only other strong enemy was russia and we defeated them easily
It was the best thing to do and only america was the changing point in the war

>>135889946
>>fucking up all treaties and alliances (especially russia)


he was in a tough spot if he did not go to war with russia the austrians would have felt betrayed as germany and austria had good relations.

>give austrians full support to do whatever they want
if the germans did not come at the resceu at tannenberg the austrians would have lost the first few months of the war the austians where getting steamrolled by the russians.
it was either the or russia.

It was necessary and rather unavoidable. Sooner or later the austrohungarian empire would have fallen and any conflict generated in that region would have led to the www1.

>>135890216
You look like an Oreo made of period blood.

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>>135889882
>start biggest conflict in human history
>manage to be on winning side
>lose entire empire

>>135887646
Wars are neccessary

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>>135890585

>>135890463
>True yeah but britian would attack us anyway even they both together were sloooowly losing on the west front against us and without britians help france would be crushed


in the late war germany had to retreat massivly (hindenburg line) you would have lost anyways since resource shortige as realy starting to bite in the late war as more and more commie revolts happened.

as austria hungary was collapsing and italy swithed sides it became clear germany wasnt giong to win.

ameria was the last nail in the coffin.

>>135889946
>trying to get muh naval power

funny thing that, that was one of the major reasons for WW1.

Germany wanted a defensive fleet of ~60% of the biritsh power to protect its fisherman in the noth sea and trade routes from the english (because we all know how the eternal anglo always rolled out his navy to pirate the shit out of its opponents).

The brits had the doctrine of "two power standard" which meant their neval fleet should be 2x +10% bigger than the 2nd and 3rd largest fleet combined.

Basically anglos saw germany as a threat to their global sea monopoly.

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>>135890463
>we defeated Russia
Holy fuckin keks

>>135887646
>ITT: people with a grade 10 history try to fight people who actually researched history

>>135890029

M.l. Vater!

morgen fahren wir zum warthe?lager, von da aus werde ich ausführlicher schreiben. heute abend müssen wir noch unsere Sachen packen, hoffentlich sehen wir uns Pfingsten gesund und munter wieder. auf frohes wiedersehen grüßt euch herzlichst
allzeit eure

My dear father

tomorrow we will drive to the waiting?camp. From there I will write in more detail. This evening we still have to pack our things. I hope we will see each other again on whitsun, healthy and cheerful. To a happy reunion heartly greeting
for ever yours

should be correct more or less
I can't read the name

>>135890894
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Brest-Litovsk

>being this retarded

>>135890894
russia collapsed by the bolchivic revoluton.

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>>135890727
Human evolution makes wars neccessary
We had a lot of neat new shit in the 20's thanks to all the things we made to get an edge in ww1

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>>135890894
Yeah, fucking retard. Russia was forced to sign a peace treaty in Germany's favour because of the revolution in russia.

>>135891029
So touching... thanks a lot

>>135887646
The leaders of Germany, Britain, and France were relatives. The queen had a fucked up notion that peace would result from these blood relations - it was actually one of the causes for tension.

>>135890894
>implying they didn't

You do realize that without the help from allies, even the 'let's bury them in corpses' tactic would've not worked?

>>135891274
>these blood relations - it was actually one of the causes for tension.


tsar nicolas and wilhelm where cousins right?

>>135891274
>The leaders of Germany, Britain, and France were relatives.

Russia anon, not Fronce.

>>135890185
>you have to admit one thing kraut wilhelm was a very bad leader.

That is exactly what I am saying
If Bismarck would have been still been chancelor, germany would not have been so screwed diplomatically

>>135890482
>he was in a tough spot
it was already too late at that point.
all the alliances were made, mobilization started, everyone wanted to just start the war

He screwed up the years before that

>>135891274
SOOOOOOOOOOOOO crap. This is a fucking shit invented for the republican propaganda in order to disqualify monarchi.

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>>135891386

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>>135891395
you forget there was also economic tension between germany and england.

the thing is had germany avoided shady tactics like the zimmerman telegram america would have not been so eager to rape germany.

>>135891552
why do they look so simular?

i thought it was shopped but the actualy do look amost identical.

>>135887646
If serbshits would have been terminated beforehand

If Germany didn't cross through Belgium, yes. Invading the neutral country forced Britain into the war.

>>135891624
At this time america had already choosed a side so why not try everything you can

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>>135887646
Yes
Germany just had not to chimp out

>>135891709
>If serbshits would have been terminated beforehand


serbian buthurt cuased ww1.

this is a very short anwser theres also the economic compitition.
the countries wanted to go to war the where just waiting for an exuse to the assasination was the perfect storm.

>>135891709
Idiot

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>>135891121
It's been a while since I've watched this

>>135891805
The war didnt start the moment Britain entered it, you cuck brainwashed by anglo media
The war started when Austria attacked Serbia, and it became a world war when Germany attacked Russia and France

If the Kaiser had listened to Bismarck.
Germany should have offered some kind of deal that would have had allowed France to keep Elsass, even if it was a German area.

>>135891815
>At this time america had already choosed a side so why not try everything you can


you forget the easter uprising the krauts tried.

you also forget that the zimmerman telegram was witheld until the right time to cuase the largest schandel possible america knew what the where diong.

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>>135891805
Yeah britian sure would wait and accept that the enemy takes over france they got only in the for for belgium

>>135889604
You do remember that you lost the war right? Germany fucked itself by invading Belgium and not throwing out the older generals sooner. Also, you basically invented communism the way it is today by flooding Russia with the bolshevik revolutionaries you housed in their exile, specifically Lenin. Kill yourself Krautnigger.

>>135891624
England would have never gotten directly involved if Germany and Russia had maintained good relationships and solved the serbian fuckfest on a diplomatic basis.
If the germans waited for France to invade instead of giving a casus belli by invading neutral belgium, there would have been no reason for the Brits to declare war.

But yes, trying to mess with US politics did not help either.

In general: fuck Wilhelm

>>135887646
I thought WWI was instigated by the International Bolshevik to inspire a Communist revolution, where the proletariat were expected to throw away national identities when faced with world war for no good reason. Much to there kiwi-watermelon supreeeze (my favorite) the masses maintained their national identity (for king and country) rather than be Bolshy.
In response to WWI, Cultrual Marxism and Antonio Gramci Prison Notebooks mapped out the Marxist world plan to deconstruct the religious (I.e. Christian) institutions and identity, as they rightly understood (after WWI) that for global communism to take root, Christianity, the last and greatest bulwark against the Communist threat, had to be dealt with. And it has taken 100 years.

>>135892070
>Yeah britian sure would wait and accept that the enemy takes over france they got only in the for for belgium


dont forget italy being backstabbing bitches.

>>135892072
Didn't remember that switzerland was part of the german empire but thanks
>flooding russia with bolsheviks
Haha ja whatever makes you sleep at night third world monkey

>>135892217
>solved the serbian fuckfest


serbia was a ticking timebomb there was no solving that but war.

the assasination was the drip in the bucket.

>>135887646
No, it'd be like telling a kid not to play with all his new toys on Christmas.

Yes, some historians believe that it took unique, almost comical, circumstances to cause it to actually happen.

John Keegan's book on ww1 is a good read if you are truly interested in the subject.

>>135892380
>>flooding russia with bolsheviks


thats actualy treu lenin as funded by the german empire.

>>135892380
Vladimir Lenin got one of your armored trains to travel to Petrograd, don't ignorant

>>135892217
>If the germans waited for France to invade

Was not gonna happen
France knew very well that Germany was stronger and thus wanted to avoid the war
That's why even after your raided a French village and killed a Frenchman in it on August 2, we still didnt declare war
Upon understanding that France wasnt going to start a war with them, the Germans said "fuck it" and attacked France themselves

>>135891805
That was just an excuse

>>135892532
>Vladimir Lenin got one of your armored trains to travel to Petrograd, don't ignorant

citations?

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>>135887646
I wish, such a waste of white men

>>135887646
If the nations were redpilled on communism, in particular if the Turk and Rus knew about it, they would have let Austria-Hungary go full ham on the commies in the Balkans for killing the Archduke.
Inevitably however, we'd still get a world war. 1914, 2014, somewhere in the middle, it would have happened.

>>135892070


The British public and even the men in the military wanted nothing to do with a way between the austrians and germans vs the serbs and french you mongoloid. They had treaties to protect their sovereignity at all costs, including declaring war openly. If Germany didn't go through Belgium with their shitty pincer strategy, the British eould have never gotten involved and it would have been a repeat of the Franco Prussian war. Even von Falkenhayn said it was a mistake forcing the Brits into the war that quickly. Learn your own history, Mehmet.

>>135892659
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_London_(1839)

no the brits literaly promised us protection.

>>135892532
And that's all? Wow wow wow its really the exactly same like merica did with sending billions worth of war material to the SU
It was a good opportunity and it worked stop crying nigger but you can't call this funding or supporting

>>135892380
I'm from here by blood, visiting family, but I was born and raised in the US, to refute your third worlder comment. You don't even know the facts about the war. You funded Lenin and gave him an armoured train so he wouldn't be fucking lynched. Kill yourself, muhammad.

>>135892989
>You funded Lenin and gave him an armoured train so he wouldn't be fucking lynched

(CITATIONS NEEDED)

>>135887646
No. Prussia, France and Russia did way too much crap in the European mainland. Everyone had every excuse for war, anything could have started it. WW1 was inevitable.

>>135892989
And what's wrong with that?

>>135892734
>he British eould have never gotten involved and it would have been a repeat of the Franco Prussian war.

Except that's wrong, huge faggot
Due to incredibly small numbers Britain was irrelevant as fuck on the Western Front until late 1916
France stopped the German advance alone at the First Marne in 1914, and then held the Germans basically by itself until the Somme (first time of the war Britain deployed significant numbers) in mid 1916
Had Britain not gotten involved, France would surely have lost, but not before 1917 and millions of dead on both sides

>>135887646
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Greater_Austria

Yes. There was a reason Franz was targeted.

>>135892412
Even a limited military retaliation could have been successful if it had been done much faster

After the assassination the European public had a lot of sympathy for the Austrians.

When they went back and forth for month for nothing and the serbs excepting all demands except for the last one, they lost public standing.

Good relations with the russians and communicating the "halt at belgrad" plan, could have kept the russkies out of there, since they were mainly afraid of the Austrians annexing Serbia.

>Hey Nicky, we gotta do something about the Serbs killing royalty.
>We don't want to spread the idea that you can get away with killing royalty, do we?
>There will be no occupation and we will get out when order is reestablished.
>Willy

>>135893133
>at the First Marne in 1914,

the marne was a fuking disaster pierre look at the casualty rates.

if we did not delay the krauts ad the shlieven plan by flooding our country they would have steamrolled trough france.

I went to a Chautauqua event last night about the echoes of WWI. I got to speak to a man who had spent over a year studying and practicing Churchill. He was spot on, even looked like him.

His whole speech was on the weapons of WWI and how they clashed with the military tactics of the time, resulting in so much bloodshed. It was fun. You guys should check out your local Chautauqua events if you can

>>135892884
>Literally funded Lenin and his group of Bolshevik revolutionaries by directly giving them money, supplies, and insider contacts in Russia
>Literally supported a communist revolutionary by making sure he got to his destination safely to overthrow anything other than a Communist system in the chaos of the aftermath of the fall of the Czar.
"You can't call that funding or supporting."
Germanistan: a mistake.
Face it, your ancestors are the reason communism exists right now and you are the reason that Muslims are invading Europe. You're the worst fucking people on the planet.

The first country to start a full mobilisation was Russia. Germany then asked them to stop and they didn't.

>>135893261
>After the assassination the European public had a lot of sympathy for the Austrians.


not for long after austria invaded serbia they practically hanged and brutilized the population.

but its a mricle that the serbs maniged to keep the austrians out for so long.

>>135893458
>he still cant provide a citation for linin getting a ride by germany.

>>135893392
The First Marne was the most decisive battle of the war, little shit
Maybe not in term of k/d ratio, but it did stop the German advance and turn the war into attrition and trenches

And yes, you pieces of shits were useful in slowing down the Germans, but doesnt change my point which was that Britain controbuted jack shit until late 1916 and that France would thus still have held for years even without them

>>135893133
I agree that the French did the majority of the fighting, what i meant by a second franco prussian war was an eventual and assured German victory. The Germans forced themselves to fight a war on multiple fronts by being mongs.

>>135888099
>Britain might not have had to join

Britain was the most pro-war faction from the get go.

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>>135887646
Short answer - no.
Long answer - no.

>>135893712
>little shit
>And yes, you pieces of shits
pierre why so buthurt?
without us stopping and halting them the germans would have RAPED you like the franco prussian war 2.0

>>135893458
Russia under lenin rule was much better as the empire and he freed many countries and did mostly good things
After stalin sperged like a retarded moron we tried to take them out but the lend lease wich was much more as the entie SU military combined had before killed the plan
So it was american autism what made the union a world superpower
But still nice try monkey

>>135893665
Do you reckon a foreign enemy national can just rent an entire railway cart and travel through 1917 Germany?

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>>135893925
Without us your country would never have existed in the first place
You were just repaying your debt

why does everybody forget how usseful the ottomans where to the krauts?

the stopped the british at gallipoli fought in the meditaranian.

>>135894008
>fter stalin sperged like a retarded moron
linin died of natural cuases.

>>135887743
Exactly correct. Look no further than this reply, OP.

>>135893925
What did you halted anyway?
You killed some of our guys then we bombed some of your shit and then you crave back in your little house
That's not helpful at all

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>>135887646
No, but World War 3 could have.

>>135893060
Louis Fischer, The Life of Lenin, 1964
Christopher Rice, Lenin: Portrait of a Professional Revolutionary, 1990
Robert Service, Lenin: A Biography, 2000
It's a fact that the German government purposely sent the Bolsheviks to Russia to create a communist revolution and to stop the Duna's plan on Russia becoming a Republic like the United States.

>>135894185
>You were just repaying your debt

nice try fra*nce we where under no obligation to stop the germans from marching trough and raping you by the flank.

you rather owe us.
>>135894392
we flooded the entire country by the ijzer. to stop you from advancing.

>>135894206
And? I did not say stalin killed him but he killed all the work that lenin did before

>>135887646
I blame the cia niggers

>>135894518
>we where under no obligation to stop the germans from marching trough and raping you by the flank.

Yeah, and imo that was a pretty dumb move
What were you trying to accomplish?
Did you want to achieve victory? It was impossible
Did you want to save your country's "honor"? Belgium never had such a thing to begin with
Truly a mystery...

>>135889064
AHEM

>>135893665
>In February 1917, the February Revolution broke out in St. Petersburg – renamed Petrograd at the beginning of the First World War – as industrial workers went on strike over food shortages and deteriorating factory conditions. The unrest spread to other parts of Russia, and fearing that he would be violently overthrown, Tsar Nicholas II abdicated. The State Duma took over control of the country, establishing a Provisional Government and converting the Empire into a new Russian Republic.[123] When Lenin learned of this from his base in Switzerland, he celebrated with other dissidents.[124] He decided to return to Russia to take charge of the Bolsheviks, but found that most passages into the country were blocked due to the ongoing conflict. He organised a plan with other dissidents to negotiate a passage for them through Germany, with whom Russia was then at war. Recognising that these dissidents could cause problems for their Russian enemies, the German government agreed to permit 32 Russian citizens to travel in a "sealed" train carriage through their territory, among them Lenin and his wife.[125] The group travelled by train from Zürich to Sassnitz, proceeding by ferry to Trelleborg, Sweden, and from there to the Haparanda–Tornio border crossing and then to Helsinki before taking the final train to Petrograd.[126]

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>>135894649
>cia

>1914

knuckledragging moron.
the cia was formed on September 18, 1947; 69 years ago

>>135894511
>its only ok when america overthrows a countries government
Still not really helping at all it was the people who wanted the revolution and not some military might from lenin

>>135894155
This.
>>135894822
Also this. BTFO.

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>>135894760
trying to protect you fr*nce.
and keep our neutrality.

>also fra*nce talking about honor
do i need to remind you?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War

>>135894206
Kirov didn't die of natural causes though.

>>135894951
>it was the people who wanted the revolution and not some military might from lenin
>how dare she fuck the nigger and not me must be the kike media telling her to fuck niggers, she as a person didn't want it

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>>135894822
See we where so nice that we gave some russians a pass to get through germany to russia
What's the problem here...
AND THATS WHAT ALL THE FAGGOTS HERE CALL FUNDING AND SUPPORTING

Why would you want to prevent such wars anyway? The Goyims valor is so appreciated that ultimately God's chosen people would thank them by renting their birthright back to them at only a small markup... continual, and compounded annually of course.

>>135894822
>>135895070
nice try:)
Jacob Henry Schiff was an Jewish-American banker, businessman, and philanthropist. Among .... In addition to his famous loan to Japan, Schiff financed loans to many other nations, including those that would come to comprise the ... Schiff was also known for funding Trotsky's journey to Russia to overthrow the Tsarist rule.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Schiff

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>>135895185
What? Haha

>>135895301
>AND THATS WHAT ALL THE FAGGOTS HERE CALL FUNDING AND SUPPORTING


it isnt supporting thm to give them a ride?

>>135895301
No, you gave communism a pass. You're the real kikes. You always were. US wasn't even involved and you were offering it to Mexico

>>135895352
Wut?

>>135895487
nah they just gave him a ticket moight

>A sealed train is one that travels internationally under customs and/or immigration seal, without its contents legally recognized as entering or leaving the nations traversed between the beginning and end of the journey or subject to any otherwise applicable taxes. The most notable use of a sealed train was the return of Vladimir Lenin to Russia from exile in Switzerland in 1917

>>135895484
the people want more refugees, accept them

>>135894951
>>135895301
Nice try at changing the subject, Krautnigger.
The State Duma, the temporary government set up after the abdication of the throne by the Czar, was planning on setting up a Republic akin to the United States. They were even planning on more or less copy the American Constitution. That didn't sit well with the Germans, as they saw that as a strengthening of relations between Russia, an enemy they were just now beginning to subdue, and America, an enemy who had not yet entered the war, but who's entering was an inevitability, with their funding of the UK and Germany declaring open U-Boat warfare.
You are the reason that Communism left the Universities and became an actual thing you fucking retard. Funded and Supported, end of story.

>>135895487
Haaardly desu it was just a perfect opportunity without any costs and nothing else

>>135895707
>>135895699
perfect opportunity to seal russia's fte more like.

>>135895707
>Germany a year later
>WHAT? THE KIKES ARE HAVING A REVOLUTION IN BAVARIA? HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED?

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>>135895701
>>135895699
At the end we WON against russia
That's all that matters sweetie :')

>>135895902
oh no the german revolution of 1918 how could this have happened?

>>135895831
Yes but how could they have known what monstrosity would spawn? They probably imagined Lenin and his boyfriend would cause a small rebellion that would distract Russia and force them to sign a peace.

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>>135895902
And then again we won :')

Clearly it was the Jews.
WW2 is a framing a Germany, definitely.

>>135896079
>At the end we WON against russia

nein hans die bolchevics sein eine duitse Schaffung.

>>135896184
>Yes but how could they have known what monstrosity would spawn? They probably imagined Lenin and his boyfriend would cause a small rebellion that would distract Russia and force them to sign a peace.

the knew very well what there diong lenin and trostky did more damige to russia than tsar nicolas fuckups could have ever done.

>>135896079
>>135896201
And you lost the war by antagonizing the Americans and forcing them into the war by influencing the Russians through communism, therefore straining US-Russia relations and sinking the Lusitania like a fucking sperg.
But you gave Europe Communism and Islam. What an achievement. Literally the worst nation of beta cucks of all time. You literally bleed degeneracy.
You're such a fucking retard it pains me. At the very least you admit you're Communist and Muslim enabling faggots.

>>135887646
Yes, if ancient Egyptians killed the Jews instead of expelling them

>>135896079
>>135896201
You always forget the part that in the end the US comes to bitchslap you

>The first Gastarbeiter were recruited from European nations. However Turkey pressured the Federal Republic to allow its citizens to become guest workers.[1] Theodor Blank, Secretary of State for Employment, was opposed to such agreements. He held the opinion that the cultural gap between Germany and Turkey would be too large and also held the opinion that Germany needed no more labourers because there were enough unemployed people living in the poorer regions of Germany who could fill these vacancies. The United States, however, put some political pressure on Germany, wanting to stabilize and create goodwill from a potential ally. The German Department of Foreign Affairs carried on the negotiations after this, and in 1961 an agreement was reached.[6][6]

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>>135896551
>And you lost the war by antagonizing the Americans and forcing them into the war by influencing the Russians through communism, therefore straining US-Russia relations and sinking the Lusitania like a fucking sperg.
>But you gave Europe Communism and Islam. What an achievement. Literally the worst nation of beta cucks of all time. You literally bleed degeneracy.
>You're such a fucking retard it pains me. At the very least you admit you're Communist and Muslim enabling faggots.


its the kraut cycle.

after wilhelms fuckup and failing to win ww1 the where doomed to repeat the cycle forever.

No
England and France was never going to let Germany be a super power in any way and they sure as hell weren't going to just allow the world to realize that they were no longer relevant nations.
It was as inevitable as the Boer War

>>135896184
At that point, Russia was already more or less out of the war. The Duma wanted to sign peace, since they didn't have complete control over the army, but the Krauts sperged out at the thought of the Russians being on good terms with the Americans. The Russian Army would have been off the Eastern Front a maximum of 3 months after the Abdication, they were tired of fighting.

>>135896527
They had no idea that Lenin would succesfully start his revolution. I agree that it was a risk but judging people from 100 years ago with our current knowledge is just stupid.

>>135896817
Yep, we're on the jump now with them becoming a fucking Caliphate.

>>135896734
>The agreement with Turkey ended in 1973 but few workers returned because there were few good jobs in Turkey.[9] Instead they brought in wives and family members and settled in ethnic enclaves.[10]

this reads like poetry

>>135896858
>They had no idea that Lenin would succesfully start his revolution.
Yes they did you inbred fuck. Otherwise why the fuck would they send him to Russia?

>He attended the Zimmerwald Conference in September 1915 and the Kienthal Conference in April 1916,[115] urging socialists across the continent to convert the "imperialist war" into a continent-wide "civil war" with the proletariat pitted against the bourgeoisie and aristocracy.[116]

>>135888319
>why is this misconception so comon?
Jews and revisionism for over 100 years

>>135896858
>They had no idea that Lenin would succesfully start his revolution. I agree that it was a risk but judging people from 100 years ago with our current knowledge is just stupid.


lenin and trotsky's actions where well known to the public do you think that there revolution was obscure?

tsar nicolas kept fuckingup rasputins scandals the played russia like a fiddle.

>>135888319
>reddit spacing
>>>/trash/

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There was no way for us to prevent it

>>135897156
>>reddit spacing

>le reddit spacing maymay right megapedes!XDXD.

fuck of lad make a counter argument.

>>135897375
who drew that abhorrently autistic pic?

>>135891121
gives me nightmares to this day

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>>135887646

Nope.

Arms/Weapons Manufacturers had/have a 100 year plan that was backed by Power Structures who wanted to set things in motion for eventual Global Government. Since that 100 year plan is coming to a end, a new 100 year plan is en-works.

War maybe hell, but War is one hell of a Business/Industry.

[KB's: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/boards/pol.x/subject/Knowledge%20Bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/]

WW1 is also where BBP(Black Budget Programs) really got there start.

>>135887646
yes the shitty brit bongs financed the black hand so stop them from doing that