Noam Chomsky Appreciation Thread

>>135844890

he never supported them

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>>135844425
Why is imperialism bad?

We should be extracting resources from 3rd-world nigger pawns and using them to provide gibs for our own white population.

You can't refute this.

>>135844425
why are we being rated by sub 80 iq fucking ancoms

>>135844425

The man has such a severe misunderstanding of continental philosophy that he is actually a disservice to analytic philosophy and any sort of analytic-Marxist fusion. He was wrecked by Foucault 40 years ago and still cannot comprehend why.

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>>135845317
Lol @ continental philosophy.

It is not his fault that the post-structuralist position is literally incoherent. If you like to read and listen to incoherent people, and subsequently believe incoherent things, then go for it. But he and nobody else has any obligation to pretend your incoherence needs to be "comprehended".

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>>135844425
>Everything this man has ever said on political, social and economic issues is indisputably correct.
Nice bait, gives me an excuse to share this:
http://www.paulbogdanor.com/chomskyhoax.html

>takes money from pentagon while decrying it as evil
hmm

>>135845886
Bodganor - professional Gish-Galloper on the payroll of world-class sadist and numbskull David Horowitz.

You should have avoided finding an excuse to share your inability to think critically.

>>135846149
>ad hom

I pay for my bank account even though I decry banks as evil. What's your point?

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>>135846583
I knew you'd reply with an ad hom; it goes without saying it's not a sufficient response to his arguments. Into the trash it goes, try harder or don't bother to post.

>>135846726
Not about to go through his list of 82138982013 complaints and debunk every single one of the out of context quotes, specious claims and poor sources. I have this:

> http://bigwhiteogre.blogspot.com/2011/06/response-to-paul-bogdanors-top-200.html

If there's any particular "lies" not debunked within that post )which utterly discredits your source) that you'd like me to look at, feel free to copy and paste. Otherwise, move right along with your comedy routine.

>>135845317
Fuck off steve.

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>>135847095
>Not about to go through his list of 82138982013 complaints
Well, chances are there's at least one, and the way you constructed your standard:
>Everything this man has ever said on political, social and economic issues is indisputably correct.
...the chances are probably 99.% that you were wrong. Shall we salvage the thread by discussing Bakunin's antisemitism now that Chomsky is done?

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Just another Marxist cunt with many degrees who is worshipped by academia and feeble minded communist . Academic Marxist are the worse kind delusional and prone to naive idealism just like the OP .

this board is full of teenagers now, i fucking hate summer

>>135847353
>chances are there's at least one
>constructed your standard

Pedantic crap ignored.

>Bakunin's antisemitism

What do I care?

Protip
>you still haven't identified a single falsehood by Chomsky

>>135844425
>Everything this man has ever said on political, social and economic issues is indisputably correct.

Praised Chavismo. Venezuela is a living utopia.

>>135844425
>anarchist
>chomsky

u forgot to change your flag you fucking larper

>>135844425
>GLOBALISTS ARE THE PROBLEM
>THE ONLY SOLUTION IS MORE GLOBALISM
>NOW LET ME READ OFF A BUNCH OF FANCY SOUNDING BUZZWORDS THAT IF YOU ACTUALLY TOOK THE TIME TO LOOK UP ACTUALLY DON'T MEAN ANYTHING WHEN USED IN THE WAY I USED THEM.
T. Noam Chomsky.

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>>135844425
Noam Chomsky is an apologist faggot, never trust an (((intellectual) who will not name the Jew.

>>135844425
Ignored

Also sage

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>>135847683
Na, the teenagers have went back to /b/ now that the Trump fad is over.

>>135847620
Pic related

>>135847823
Lefty plz. Your memes are so bad.

>>135845317
>he was wrecked by foucalt 40 years ago
Looked more like two people talking past eachother while chewing on a pen and making sporadic hand gestures until foucalt brought up class struggle which caused chomsky to just keep saying i dont agree with that repeatedly

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>>135847721
Praised Chavez for the right things he did and criticized the wrong ones - the wrong ones being the very things that have led to Venezuela's current predicament. He was
>indisputably correct
about all of it.

>>135847793
>globalism
is a word Trumpists/Infowars fans really don't understand. Here's Chomsky in a nutshell:
>global capitalism=bad
>global worker solidarity and empowerment=bad

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>>135847711
>Pedantic
lol
>What do I care?
boring
>Protip
tl;dr

Lurk moar

EXPOSING THE CULTURAL MARXIST AGENDA
=========================================
>The Frankfurt School of Social Research and the Pathologization of Gentile Group Allegiances
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/chap5.pdf
>Cultural Marxism
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism
>Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIdBuK7_g3M
>Erich Fromm, Judaism and the Frankfurt School
http://pages.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/kellner/Illumina%20Folder/kell24.htm
>Frankfurt School
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School
>Frankfurt School of Social Research
http://jettandjahn.com/2010/10/frankfurt-school-of-social-research/
>The Frankfurt School & Cultural Marxism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghx3d1GiAc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkcy7256tBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG6TcYfpQOg
>The History of Political Correctness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acjIw7cVc2k
>How a Handfull of Marxist Jews Turned Western and U.S. Culture Upside Down
http://davidduke.com/how-a-handfull-of-marxist-jews-turned-western-and-us-culture-upside-down/
>The Jewish Frankfurt School and the End of Western Civilization
http://www.dailystormer.com/the-jewish-frankfurt-school-and-the-end-of-western-civilization/
>The New Dark Age: The Frankfurt School and "Political Correctness"
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/921_frankfurt.html
>Who Stole Our Culture?
http://www.wnd.com/2007/05/41737/
>The Frankfurt School and Its Legacy
http://www.morveninstituteoffreedom.com/FrankfurtSchool.pdf
>Critical Theory (Cultural Marxism) and Jewish Thought
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/theology/events/2013/critical-theory-and-jewish-thought.aspx
>Fallen Jews, Critical Theory, and Cultural Marxism
https://originsofleftism.wordpress.com/2015/01/16/notes-fallen-jews-critical-theory-and-cultural-marxism/
>Bill Whittle on the Narrative: Political Correctness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Y

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>>135847711

>>135848008
Chomsky agrees class struggle exists and is of utmost importance. What he refused to agree with is that morals don't matter and that only a Leninist formulation ("dictatorship of the proletariat") is the correct one.

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>>135848064
>Cultural Marxist
boring conspiracy theory

>>135848192
>Sowlel
Also
>irrelevant

Still waiting on a single Chomsky falsehood.

>>135847711
What about the time he said the monstrosities of khmer rouge was western propaganda then when everything came to light he said he was correct because of the amount of information we had at the time. Bare in mind that this is the guy that protested the vietnam war for years which ultimately caused said monstrosities to take place in the first place

>Noam Chomsky
>Intellectual
>Kike Pawn
SAGE

>>135845317
>pomo makes sense
>should be taken seriously

Nope.

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>Y-you don't understand globalism
Sure I do. It's retarded. The world is full of natural borders. Most national borders are drawn along geographical divides. The planet is full of natural divides. And whenever some lefty idiot feels inclined to experiment in bringing flora and fauna across these natural divides it ends up in disaster. I think the only one that was actually successful was bringing dandelions to North America, but that was an accident.

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>>135848221
Jesus fucking Christ read some actual banned books you normie fuck:

>Politically Incorrect Books Archive:
http://mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg

>>135848409
>conspiracy theory

read books, brainlet

>>135848221
Exactely it wasnt even really a debate until then. They ran out of time before they could get to any substantive conclusions one way or the other

>>135844890
>>135844890

Chomsky "endorsing Ho Chi Minh's regime"...

During World War II, the OSS/CIA trained and armed Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Minh to fight the Japanese. Search for "Archimedes Patti" on Youtube, he was the OSS contact. Chomsky was in high school when the OSS/CIA was training Ho Chi Minh.

After the Geneva Accords, the Northern Politburo didn't want to make waves, but the southerners became tired of the southern plutocracy which was shifting from French backed to American backed. There was some western rivalry here too - in Egypt, Eisenhower was raking France and England over the coals for confronting Egypt around the time of the Geneva accords.

In US mythology, Uncle Ho ran everything. Or else manipulated "Viet Cong" fifth columnists. As if the Buddhist monks burning themselves in the streets in southern Vietnam were communists.

It's good to put a cartoon since that is what this view of things is.

Also Pol Pot took over because the US destabilized Sihanouk's government because he wasn't a hawk against Vietnam and wanted to stay neutral. It's kind of like southern Vietnam - the US wanted an obedient puppet who could also run things, and it didn't work.

>>135848409
>The Cambodian genocide never happened

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>>135845057
>We should be extracting resources from 3rd-world

The world situation has changed so this is no longer possible in the old way.

The US situation as well - the government does not have the ability to fight a long, costly war any more. Vietnam was really a gift to the left - we went from the McCarthyite June Cleaver 50s to the hippy dippy 60s and 70s. Then the troops come from in 1972 and 1975 and by 1980 Reagan is in charge.

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>>135844425
Obvious troll is obvious.

>>135847353

This quote points out something most conservatives don't understand.

Marx thought CAPITALISM broke up nationalities and fostered class stratification and class warfare.

He saw socialism as the child of capitalism, just as capitalism was the child of feudalism.

Conservatives say Marx was anti-capitalist. But Marx looked at capitalism dialectically.

You have to wonder why conservative leaders lie to conservatives about what Marx really thought.

Chomsky can destroy bridges, but how well can he build them ?

>>135844890
he also endoresed nicaraguas' ortega and argie's kirschner, both useless corrupt leftists

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>>135849997
>You have to wonder why conservative leaders lie to conservatives about what Marx really thought.
They don't though, as the quote makes obvious: Marx was an accelerationist who believed the excesses of capitalism would hasten its implosion. There's also the matter of Marxism after Marx: Marx's ideological descendants were vanguardists who had no intention of waiting for the natural progression of dialectic to proceed at an organic pace toward what Marx foretold was "historical inevitability". They quite literally sought to overthrow capitalism via coups and assasinations, as the Bolsheviks did, and as the "Bavarian Republicans" did. Unlike many Leftist ideologues who navel-gaze into Das Kapital and Marx's early writings trying to divine "Marx's truest intent" -- as if some kind of orthodoxy would remedy the failures of communism in practice -- critics of Marxism have objective reality to support their critique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-BZylziBKI

Chomsky is just another shill working to destroy white Christianity, nothing more. Same shit different jew

>>135850562
>the failures of communism in practice

Only over the past 300 generations have humans lived under anything other than communism. Even 70 generations back, the people living 200 km north of modern Stockholm were living as communists.

The "failures of communism in practice" were the same in Ireland and Russia toward the end of World War I. De Valera said one reason the Easter Rising took place is James Connolly said the Citizen's Army would take to the streets whether or not the non-socialists did. The same thing happened in Russia. The same thing happened in a lot of countries. The only difference for Russia (and, as people tend to forget, Hungary) was that the socialists took over. Isolated socialists in Russia with the whole world posed against them never really had a chance, it's amazing they accomplished what they did under the circumstances - launch the first satellite, put the first man into space - really pushing humanity out to other planets.

>>135849997
woah free market btfo, i guess that means we should start following marx now
lmao, get fucked leftie fagot
noone gives a shit about your shit tb h

>>135845046
He has said he had regrets endorsing Pol Pot in his younger day.

>>135851336
Marxism always fails because it never accounts for basic human nature. We are all greedy and will always lookmout for our own best interests, at the expense of others. Stop being so naive, cuck !

>>135848581
>Most national borders are drawn along geographical divides.

Except the ones that were drawn that way because Britain looked at a map, drew random lines, and said "why the fuck not?" Hence when the ME is now countries that have people that hate each other living together in the same nation.

>>135844425
>(((Chomsky)))
FTFY

>>135844425
he has yet to actually predict anything or say anything that is just above circumstantial.

much of his linguistic work doesn't hold water anymore and is cited less every passing day. and his social criticism resembles Derrida dribble.

he is an older david foster, a rambling idiot basically

>>135851834
>Marxism always fails because it never accounts for basic human nature. We are all greedy and will always lookmout for our own best interests, at the expense of others.

Obviously people don't look out for their best interests, since the majority of Americans are content with being wage slaves. Many of them say their reward will "in the next life", after they're dead, whatever the fuck that means.

Also capitalism did not even predominate as a system until a few centuries ago. Now we hear that capitalism is "human nature". I'm sure people said feudalism was human nature, or the slave empires were human nature.

And before 10,000 years ago, everyone lived as a communist. Hey, maybe that is human nature after all!

>>135851834
>We are all greedy and will always lookmout for our own best interests, at the expense of others

But we don't, unless you're saying people let their own children suffer to benefit themselves. Yeah some people do that, and they're considered monsters.

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>>135851336
"living in small communities" =/= communism. Sounds like the kind of absurd conflation that David Garaeber clown constantly spouts. When we speak of communism -- as we have been, in the Marxian sense we're not speaking of primitive communism, which Marx delineated from the kind of communism he advocated. Please don't insult anyone's intelligence with those basic bitch Marxist shilling points, we both know that's nonsense.

Also, reddit spacing is distracting...

>>135852234
>much of his linguistic work doesn't hold water anymore and is cited less every passing day

Ho-hum.

He showed the link between programming languages and human languages. Like the programming language this web site runs. The code of which is grounded in his theories of grammar/languages/automata etc.

>>135844425
The important thing to do when you sage is to only do it if you're the first poster. If you're the first poster,

1) type sage in the options
2) type sage in the message field to signal others to turn away.
3) the most important thing to do is to hit the back button and then hit R. And VOILA! The post is gone.

If you're NOT the first poster to a shill thread, simply skip right to step 3.

Sage

>>135852258
stop trying to paragraph space between sentences, it formats terribly and its harder to read.

>>135852258
Prove that everybody lived as a communist 1000 yrs ago. That is a bold claim. From my knowlege ancient people were hunter/gatherers and farmers and didnt require a 5 year plan how to eat and shelter themselves.

>>135847620
This.
/thread.
KYS OP

>>135844425
You can't prove him wrong because he talk as if he is gurgling cum, how can you ever understand what he say?

>>135852544
>When we speak of communism -- as we have been, in the Marxian sense we're not speaking of primitive communism

Obviously modern communism would be different in ways from more primitive communism. But much of the world was (primitive) communist 2000 years ago, and all of the world was (primitive) communist 10,000 years ago.

I don't see the failure of the (primitive) communist societies which existed from the time of cave paintings 50,000 years ago to 10,000 years ago. That's 40,000 years of success - plus the time before 50,000 years ago.

Back in 1820, during the Restoration, the feudal types were saying that capitalism had been a failure.

The 2008 government bailout of banks, the high unemployment in southern Europe etc. are all hopeful signs to me. Marx said capitalists can't fix such things and it will get worse and worse. Capitalism meaning taxpayers bail out private banks, of course. But Marx said one day the world economy will go into the ditch and won't come out, and I'm confident that will happen. Like 1929, the great crisis, the next world depression, will be unexpected. That is when we make our opening moves.

>>135852698
>Prove that everybody lived as a communist 1000 yrs ago.

10000

> From my knowlege ancient people were hunter/gatherers

yes

> and farmers

No. Agriculture only arose in the past 10,000 years.

>>135844425
Chomsky lives in a fantasy world and thinks the world should operate under utopian principles. The man has no sense of reality. He's literally a self described anarchist. He's a complete retard who lives in sheltered educational circles
Sage

>>135853170
Stop conflating tribalism with communism

>>135853170
Get the fuck out, with your breathless bullshit. If ancient communism ever existed, which it didnt, it was destroyed by a superior economical method.

>>135853318
Your archaeic economic theory was surpassed, Charles Darwin would approve. Central planning does not work and never will because it is not flexible

Communism has always morphed into monarchism under a different name

>>135853170
Your post actually makes a good point about one of the reasons why tribal societies work but communist societies dont. No one gives a fuck about the people outside of their tribe, the human brain is only designed to juggle about 200 people in it and outside of that small number of people we couldnt care less; no one wants their farms to be collectivised in order to solve the famine on the other side of the country - they can deal with it themselves

>>135852258
>before 10,000 years ago, everyone lived as a communist
Are you fucking retarded.

Op is a faggot and should reevaluate his political pardigm

>>135853170
also
>b-but marx said the capitalists cant fix such thing and it will get worse and worse
Literally exactely what they were saying pre 1929 thinking that would be the end of capitalism, and what happened? The capitalist countries ended up recovering and prospering more than ever while the marxists went back into their holes saying the same shit:
>t-the next world depression, will be unexpected. That is when we make our opening moves.

>>135845720
>>135845720
Chomsky abandoned a post-structuralist position on linguistics

>>135844425
He redpilled me on US imperialism, but never trust the Jew.

>>135845720

Chomsky abandoned a post structuralist position on linguistics

Commies gotta commie, they are like mormons, they know they are full of shit but they still have to try to sell it anyway.

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>>135844425
Stop being intentionally retarded.
>inb4 I was only pretended to be retarded

>>135845720
>
Chomsky abandoned a post-structuralist position on linguistics

>>135844425
He is painful to listen to, needs to be more concise with his arguments.

>>135854618
But is it art ?

>>135854618
It all depends on what the meaning of is is.

If you cant stun them with statistics, then baffle them with bullshit. LBJ

>>135848890

>It's good to put a cartoon since that is what this view of things is.

What the shit? Are you a bot?

>>135855228
Just a retarded gommie looking to pin pol pot on muh american imperialism

Same shit, different jew