Nazi Economics - Redpill needed

>>135839343
>Nazi Economics
Yeah, that would be called Socialism - as explicitly stated by even Hitler himself. Now GTFO with this meme """""ideology"""".

>>135839508
How is privatization of state industries socialism?

I'm asking about pure economics you fucking hippie

>>135839343

Here's everything you need:

http://www.henryckliu.com/page105.html

>Germany in debt after WW1
>can't afford to pay so French/Belgium troops just go in and take stuff
>hyper-inflation
>demand pay at the start of the week inflation
>buy groceries at the start of the day inflation
>fuck this, time for a new currency
>things start to pick up
>some angry manlet called Hitler comes along
>throws around interest free loans to Germans
>dude if our debt is the problem how about we just don't pay it lmao
>poor money into government programs
>a nation of slaves but hey nobody's starving
>shit we're going to end up starving because we've built a war dependent economy
>solution: war

If you want a visual aid, go to an American ghetto and watch black gangs mug successful and independent people. That's Nazi economics.

>>135840603
Fuck yourself mick

>>135840603
I'm missing something or that doesn't explain the incredible army power and urban development they created in such a short period of time.

>>135841195

Yeah, you're missing something you cocksucker. Read my link.

>>135841540
I'm reading, it's just too damn long you fucking nerd

You're retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRQ6fAtHXXQ
CYBERNAZI made a come back with 1488/10 beats again recently.

>>135842639
This is the shit I was looking for. Thanks.

>>135841858

Well I'm sure as fuck am not going to be the type of person who tells you the link is "everything you need" and then link you to the six paragraph Vice News version of the article.

When I say it's everything it's EVERYTHING.

>>135842709
Excellent argument lad, you really showed those Nazis. The thread will end because of your heroic addition and your genius post will end Nazism forever. Truly you will be remembered in history as a hero.

What does a National Socialist economy look like and how does it avoid the failures of Socialism and Capitalism? Namely, how does it avoid turning into Venezuela on one hand, and on the other, how does it avoid a Rothschild or Soros situation where a small group of people perpetually grow and gather wealth and use it to accrue overwhelming personal power that they then employ against the people?

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>>135842964
There's a bit more in this one too.

>>135843188


>What does a National Socialist economy look like-

A National Socialist economy would be centrist. The economy is set up in a fashion which is best for the people it is supposed to serve. For instance, in Germany once the NSDAP took power the government turned the economy into a centrally planned command economy to prevent the fall of wages and an even bigger crash from hurting the people. Many industries that were owned by the state were issued their own currencies in a program called "MEFO bills program" which allowed for state industries to compete, gather resources, and grow. [1] This program was headed by the Reichsminister of economics Hjalmar Schacht, and Schacht being a social democrat shows the National Socialist principle of being centrist on an economic policy - choosing policies that are best for the people even if they come from parties that overall don't have the best interests. Later, most of these industries were privatized to encourage growth [2]. Even the highest personal income tax was lower in Germany than it was in Britain [3]

>and how does it avoid the failures of Socialism and Capitalism?

National Socialist socialism is not marxist socialism. It is philosophical and can be summed up as meaning "everyone will be taken care of". Capitalism even with a strong ethnic preference can lead to economic disaster for a nation (see 20's America under Coolidge, who instituted the 24' immigration ban and deregulated much of the market). [4]

>>135843300
>>135843188
>Namely, how does it avoid turning into Venezuela on one hand,

As I hinted at before, National Socialist Germany only started out with a very centrally planned economy due to its awful economic situation and a strong government hand was the only way to stabilize things. Private property was upheld in NatSoc Germany and there was an effort to head towards a more free market after things got stabilized [5]. The stabilization was also very interesting, as the centrist economy took on a sort of proto-keynesian system [6]. The workers programs they used played a key part in their economic recovery as well [7] .

>how does it avoid a Rothschild or Soros situation where a small group of people perpetually grow and gather wealth and use it to accrue overwhelming personal power that they then employ against the people?

Before I answer this you first have to understand how these rothschilds and soros' get the ability to buy over other people, its not because they have money really. It's because there's no middle man to make sure people aren't bought out. The way the German government was set up, iirc, had strict observation over large corporations to prevent worker exploitation and gave a more lenient policy to small businesses, and protected them from bigger corporate competition. If you mean exploitation as in corruption of politicians or governments than your answer is looking into the context and Hitler's own words about how he would structure the german government.

>>135843300
>>135843188
Lastly Hitler's own words of how he would structure Germany's government lays out a perfect system to select the man with the most capability by others with the most capability. What he says is too long to be posted here so you can find it in the paste below or on pages 385-389 of "Hitler's Table Talks".

https://pastebin.com/0V1t1y35

Lastly you have to understand that if somehow the system was compromised and the bankers got a hold of politicians and serious shit happened that there would be a full on revolution. The Hitler Youth and German Girls league were not only put in place to make sure that the next generation was healthy, but also so that they would be trained to fight in combat for their government if it was working actively against their own interests.

1. voxeu. org/article/macroeconomics-germany-forgotten-lesson-hjalmar-schacht

2. http://www.ub .edu/graap/nazi.pdf p. 14/ http://www.ub .edu/graap/EHR.pdf p. 10

3.Braun, Hans-Joachim (1990). The German Economy in the Twentieth Century. Routledge. p. 114

4. https://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/Causes_of_the_Great_Depression#Calvin_Coolidge_.281923.E2.80.9329.29

5.https://www.cambridge .org/core/journals/journal-of-economic-history/article/role-of-private-property-in-the-nazi-economy-the-case-of-industry/5853885D956348A13B5CEFDC42313E2B

6. http://www.ihr .org/other/economyhitler2011.html

7. https://www.cambridge .org/core/books/the-nazi-economic-recovery-19321938/9F70D0C1449FE7F30652791FE0DC7427

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Owo

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If you really care, find the time and money to read these. No excuses.

http://www.hitler.org/writings/programme/

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-0289.2009.00473.x/pdf

https://www.amazon.com/Programme-N-S-D-P-Blueprint-National/dp/1519211651/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488651646&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=mike+walsh+the+programme+of+Nsdap

https://www.amazon.com/Reich-Wrong-Democracy-Tyranny-Plutocracies/dp/1532956584/ref=pd_sim_14_8?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1532956584&pd_rd_r=M6YVR38NTC93FB0P35JN&pd_rd_w=qqw67&pd_rd_wg=4Jc5c&psc=1&refRID=M6YVR38NTC93FB0P35JN

>>135843188
>Namely, how does it avoid turning into Venezuela on one hand, and on the other, how does it avoid a Rothschild or Soros situation where a small group of people perpetually grow and gather wealth and use it to accrue overwhelming personal power that they then employ against the people?

It doesn't because the nature of the Nazi economy while it lasted was based on short-term internal development that was unsustainable in a global economy as it was unable to pay back debts or provide sufficient capital to maintain itself. That's why the Nazi war machine was actually an economic benefit to Germany as it allowed the state to acquire capital and import it from conquered territories to make up for the states internal deficiencies. Whether this is a long-term viable economic plan is up to imagination to decide.

If you want a more in-depth work on Nazi economics I'd recommend The Wages of Destruction by Adrian Toomes. It's a critical but highly analytical look at the economy of Germany under Hitler using official NSDAP data. It's also fucking long as hell so be prepared if you read it.

>>135839343
Adolf Hitler and the German Economic Miracle
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FQu3ovIlPh4

Adolf Hitler's Economic Reform
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_r9Z-hTn1r4

Against the Mainstream: Nazi Privatization in 1930s Germany
http://ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf

The Economic Plan of the NSDAP
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pKnFN8P21-0

Fascist Economics and Socialism of Duty [How National Socialism is Different from Marxist Socialism]
https://archive.is/7CUMq

The German State on a National and Socialist Foundation
http://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederTheGermanStateOnANationalAndSocialistFoundation

Hitler's Coup: The German War Against Globalism
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QZ7kLGYA1L4

Hitler's Economic Miracle
https://archive.is/hTgO2

How Hitler Tackled Unemployment and Revived Germany's Economy
https://youtube.com/watch?v=O99fWf_UIWs

How Hitler Tackled Unemployment and Revived Germany's Economy
https://archive.is/XKACi

Manifesto for the Abolition of Interest-Slavery
https://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederManifestoForTheAbolitionOfInterestSlavery1919

National Socialist Economics
http://pastebin.com/PPsmxdiK

National Socialist German Economic Policy
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/national-socialist-german-economic-policy-part-1-june-15th-2013
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/national-socialist-german-economic-policy-part-2-june-22nd-2013
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/national-socialist-german-economic-policy-part-3-june-29th-2013

The Program of the NSDAP the National Socialist Workers' Party and its General Conceptions
https://archive.org/details/GottfriedFeder_TheProgramOfTheNSDAP

The Role of Private Property in Nazi Germany
http://aryanism.net/downloads/books/buchheim-scherner/the-role-of-private-property-in-the-nazi-economy.pdf

Social Welfare in Germany
https://archive.org/details/SocialWelfareInGermany

Terramare Publications #11 - German Economic Policy - Wilhem Baur
https://archive.org/details/GermanEconomicPolcy

>>135842639
sounds like hoppean ancap
exact same "must be in consonance with the community" and everything

>>135843686
>I'd recommend The Wages of Destruction by Adrian Toomes

Correction, the author is Adam Tooze, for some reason I replaced his name with the Vulture.

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>>135841195
He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Read "The Wages of Destruction" by Adam Tooze and Hjalmar Schacht's memoirs for an account of the Nazi economy from 1933 to 1945.

The most hilarious thing about Naziboos is they don't know that the first fucking thing Hitler did once hostilities were declared with France and the UK is abandon the gold standard, which was the one fucking thing that was hindering the German economy.

>shit man we have all this gold-denominated debt cuz versailles
>the only way we can acquire gold is to export useful stuff like food and raw materials and all the other shit you need to sustain consumption
>and once we get that gold or gold-backed foreign exchange, it goes right back out the fucking door to our creditors

The more I learn about Hitler, the more I actually respect his intellectual faculties, but also the more I despise the modern neo-Nazi.

>muh autobahn work creation
NOPE.
>muh 0% unemployment
NOPE; what is NAIRU and how does it work?
>muh interest-free loans
NOPE; it just transfers interest rate risk elsewhere.

Once you actually understand the German economy of that era (which is not difficut; you just can't rely on infographics to tell you anything), you're really impressed with German ingenuity and efficiency (most of which was born out of smart monetary policy), but absolutely baffled at how few people, especially Hitlerboos, have any real knowledge of it.

What most won't really get is that you could have put any economic system on the Germans of that era and it would have been a runaway success. They were a phenomenal, hard working, clever folk with no shortage of work ethic. As flawed as the ideology is in practice East Germany was literally the only communist country that actually kind of worked. And National Socialism was miles better.

>>135840603
Lol.

That is the stupidest shit I've ever read.

(((Who))) taught you that.

Hitler is the father of modern economics. He is arguably the greatest economic mind of the 20th century if not all of history even greater than Adam smith.

Why don't you know this? Well let me ask you another question why can't I type Hitler on my iPhone?

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>>135839343

>>135843892
Natsoc is capitalism, so long as the company doesn't hurt the country's people. Companies like Hershey and Coke would either be shut down or be forced to make the products healthy

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>>135846496
While those companies could be more strictly regulared, the main problem lies in weak individuals who can't stop eating highly caloric shit.

>>135846496
See my problem with this is that the power that lies to determine what is degenerate and what is not, lies within the government. As soon as the good guy from government leaves, and another (((good))) one comes in (and it will happen, just a matter of time) the degeneracy will start ramping up again.

>>135843686
how would it be unable to pay back debts?

>>135844170
what makes the people of a nation indebted to another nation? Germany has a right to say fuck off with your debt

here is redpill

Hitler was a Rothschild, and didnt die Berlin 1945. Hitler went south america and died around -60

Angela Merkel is Hitlers daughter, and allso Rothschild.

>>135851871
Well at least Hitler is getting his way. He wanted Germany to adopt the Mohammedan religion.

>>135839773
Hitler privatized railroads, what else?

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Hans Hermann Hoppe from the Ludwig von Mises Institute.

https://youtu.be/bykEmnJHNVw