Catalans get in here

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Nice try fagget. Try it so we can finally kill liberal he'll hole agian.

Kys

>>135807046
En 2 meses hareis el ridiculo.

>>135808152
>>135808796
>>135809870
Can't you read faggots? You're not welcomed here.

>>135810467
Els catalans som espanyols encara que no t'agradi. Aragó i Castilla van fundar Espanya a parts iguals, no som una entitat externa conquerida ni res per l'estil.

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>>135810784
I que em fa espanyol exactament?

Per cert Manolo, et convido a tornar a Andalusia. Fins i tot estic disposat a pagar-te el bitllet de la meva butxaca.

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>>135807046

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>>135807046
It will be the biggest HAPPENING of our lives, I swear this time is for sure!

If I get tickets to Spain, where should I go during the referendum? Always fascinated by separatism but was also hoping to go to Franco's tomb, kind of in the opposite direction

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>>135812320
viva ejpaña pepe!

Seriously Spain is so trash nobody wants to be part of it. Don't blame me, blame yourself.

>>135813140
Come to Barcelona and celebrate with us. Specially late night when the results are starting to show should be interesting.

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> http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/espana/2017/07/22/apoyo-independentistas-baja-ocho-puntos-dos-meses-referendo/0003_201707G22P19991.htm

Pero si sois cuatro gatos y un par de moros. A més la indepencia passara per sobre el meu cadaver, fills de puta.

>>135813961
Disgusting xarnegos. Get the fuck out of here you filthy subhumans.

>>135811992
>>135813429
You shure showed him. Thanks God Catalonia and Barcelona don't have any chavs/canis at all, or any pakis, sudacas or gypsies. Rite?

>>135814486
Es la verdad, sois cuatro matados con unos lideres sin cojones porque si declaran la independencia tendrían que pagar con su patrimonio y sueldo.

I am going to spana tomorrow, will stay one day in Barca

Where can I buy some pro-independence stuff?

>>135814921
Where the fuck do you think canis come from you retard?

>>135814948
Even in the (((poll))) you showed 41% of the total population of Catalonia are in favour of independence, quite a lot more than "cuatro gatos".
And it would just take to allow only those born in Catalonia to rise that number to 70%.

Go back Paco, none invited you and none wants you here.

>>135815597
Any souvernir shop really.

>>135810784
This thread should've been closed right here.

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Asalaim Alequm

>>135807046
Fuck yeah, I can't wait for another civil war.

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>>135815889
Don't worry all immigrants have spanish nationality because you gave them it so they will be deported back to the country their ID card says: Spain.
Muslims can integrate fine among spaniards because you're basically the same, they will feel at home.

>>135815606
>http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/espana/2017/07/22/apoyo-independentistas-baja-ocho-puntos-dos-meses-referendo/0003_201707G22P19991.htm
>los que se decantan por un Estado independiente son aún menos, ya que solo un 34,7 %

>>135816480
Only a spaniard can post such bullshit map and expect others to believe it. What a bunch of low iq niggers you guys are lol.

Catalan is such a fucking cool language. Its a mix of Spanish, French and some Italian. I reckon a native Catalan could speak all 3 languages fluently.

>>135807046
Catalan is full of Reds. Based Franco do it again.

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>>135816515
>cuckalonia
>deporting slimes
You're delusional (or rusing)

>>135807046

Only happening you traitorous Moor lovers are gonna get is a bullet in your head

>>135816826
You dumb fuck. The 34,7% is about another question which has 3 possible choices.
The official question of the referendum will either be yes or no so the 41,1% number is much more accurate.

Que en sous de retrassats de veritat. Ni concentrant tot l'esforç mental en llegir un simple article sou capaços de fer algo bé. Pura deixalla inservible.

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>>135807046
I want to believe

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>>135816515
>a catalan neo nazi
LMAO
You are delusional or clinically retarded, is a well known fact that catalans are turbo commies and liberals refugees welcome tier. Even your separatist shit flag is commie.

>>135817350
Nobody cares you separatist jew, it will be the same as the last time.
Only separatists will go to vote and normal catalans will not gonna bother into voting in some illegal referendum that will do absolutely nothing.

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>>135817525
Only spanish immigrants like yourself vote the socialists and commies. Economic migrants voting for leftist parties, who would have thought right? Really activates the almonds.
Just go back seriously, fucking low iq shitskin.

What's the happening? I don't get it.

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>>135817872
>normal catalans
Can you stop LARPing as something you're not? Wannabe trash.
You're a castilian shitskin, know your place subhuman.

>>135818180
In 2 months in Catalonia we vote to become independent of Spain.
Watch Spain crash and burn, it will be epic.

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>>135818015
>"nationalists"
>not leftist/communists
AYY LMAO

>>135807046
Are you actually going to do it? Can Swedes (ethnic) move in? Been looking to make a move.

>>135818319
enjoy your european sponsored blue colored revolution calçot-bro. you have to be blind to not see what's coming. I'll seriously pray for you.

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>>135817525
>separatist shit flag is commie.
Are you retarded? There are different versions of the flag, and the blue one was the first

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>>135818319
>vote
You literally won't.

>>135818319

I hope you are out in front waving you the independant flag when the spanish army comes to gun you traitors down.

>>135818486
Both CiU and ERC merged last election with the only intention to make independence possible. How is that not nationalist? They left everything aside to just focus on the nation.

Anyway notice who votes podemos. Only castilian trash.

>>135818792
based hodor

>>135807046

Keep strong Catalonia!!!

Also, you Nazi, I like the Catalan flag without the star. The star stands for communism...

Rate my itinerary

>Fly in to Madrid
>Paracuello Massacre cemetery (dedicated to the mass grave of Catholic clergy and Francoists), right next to the airport. Cementerio de Los Mártires de Paracuellos
>Drive to Cerro de los Angeles, which Republicans ceremonially executed, and Franco rebuilt
>Drive to Valley of the Fallen, get a hotel inside it (there is one, pretty cool), see Franco's grave and spend the night
>Sunday morning, drive to Royal Palace of Madrid and celebrate before a late flight back to London
SUNDAY
______
Up early, drive to airport and go home
Dont go----Pazo de Meirás in Galacia - Still owned by Franco family after it was gifted
Used as a country retreat by his daughter and grandkids, parliament is trying
to take it back --- Don't go

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>>135818015
Nice assumptions out of your ass. Just because Barcelona have some migrants that doesn't mean is the reason the left won. 90% of catalans live in Barcelona you retard.

>>135819000
Oh shit, forgot to delete some of my copy-paste .txt shit

Would be cool to see Franco's family palace still but I'm on a time crunch

>>135816862
Source is: https://www.indy100.com/article/isis-recruitment-explained-in-5-maps-and-charts--byr7kQePIb

Do you mean to say the UK has interest in making Catalonia appear specially radiical-muslim populated? What would their intentions be?

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>>135818534
Everything points it's gonna happen but the spanish know that without Catalonia they're toast and will try everything in the book to stop it.
I'd rather have an ethnostate but if you're redpilled we can make an exception for you.

>>135818629
I know. Getting rid of the globalists is next level and no country in Europe is even close to succeed in this regard. But I'd rather live in my own EU sponsored country than being inside another (and way worse) EU sponsored country.

>>135818846
Pic related is you. You scare none Paco.

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muh segadors
muh 1714
muh estatut
muh special privileges
muh referendum

they never learn

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>>135818860
Podemos isn't the only leftist party in Spain

>>135807046
Catalunya is major left or right wing?

>>135819465

yea catalonians are good figh.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalonia_Offensive

>>135819000
definitely that has to be an interesting journey, a lot can be learned in order to know the mess that Spain was before

If Catalonia does become independent. Will they be a republic or keep the king?

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>>135819852
Cuckservative

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>>135818946
Thank you man. Lucky you got rid of them centuries ago, let's hope this time is our turn.
Pic related is the real flag of Catalonia, the one with the star is only used when relating to the independence movement because it symbolizes freedom. It won't be used anymore when it becomes a reality ofc.

>>135819077
You're utterly retarded and a liar. If you live in Catalonia you know perfectly well Podemos and PSOE is voted only by xarnegos.
Tell me this: how come the areas where less people speak catalan are also the areas where podemos is voted the most?

>>135819322
Yeah and the country with most fighters (Belgium) is in grey right? And only 3 regions in France, 1 in Germany, 0 in Italy...bullshit map.

>>135820162
Hola company. Per fi un altre català de veritat.
Espero el millor però ja es poden posar les piles a la Generalitat si volen guanyar el referendum.

>>135820153

If Catalonia does become independent they will be a grave yard.

En vez de chapala en internet espero que el día del referéndum salgas a morir contra los tanques, no te acobardes eh maquina

>>135819764
Podemos is the only marxist party, there are others in the left spectrum but not as extrem as podemos.

>>135820153
Republic ofc.

Can't you make some solution that forces people to speak catalan only in Catalonia and give some more autonomy powers - instead of spain being a Castillian supremacist nation.

>>135820153
There's no reason for us to keep the king. The Bourbons have been cancerous for Spain and especially for Catalonia. Furthermore, nowadays they're fairly unpopular due to numerous scandals

>>135820181
Correlation isn't causation.
How do you explain that the province with the 73,3 % of Catalonia population voted left scum into power?
Who cares what do people vote in some literally who comarca with more goats than people?

>>135821145
We catalans still would want to be an independent country but with those measures you mention many would many would get of the train.
Luckily the spanish goverment (PP) hates Catalonia so that alienates the spanish immigrants living here and many will vote YES out of spite.

>>135821145
they have been importing muslims for years instead of south americans (who already know spanish) so they can teach them catalan and dont have to learn spanish

>>135807046
HAHAHAHA KEEP DREAMING JORDI

>>135821473
>Correlation isn't causation.
Cmon nigger you can do better. As I said before spanish economic migrants voting leftist parties is no surprise, in fact xarnegos share the voting bloc with moroccans and sudacas who also like podemos and PSOE very much.
I've been pwning you in all the thread and exposed you as the low iq trash you are. Stop it or you will fall even lower.

>>135822013
Isn't the central govt that make deals with non-EU nationalities to come here or is the autonomous region of catalonia that fills them with sikhs and muslims? Do they have that power?

>>135822013
>they have been importing muslims for years instead of south americans
We have both the highest muslim AND sudaca population, not because we "imported" them but because the spanish goverment sends them here to dilute the identity of Catalonia.
Only a low iq retard could think that a region within a country can control borders and immigration. What's next, blaming Bavaria because refugees enter Germany from there when it was Merkel who invited them?
And btw sudacas don't care about Spain at all, don't be deluded.

>>135822395
>t. jordi muñoz fernandez
Well If 73,3% of your voting base are xarnegos and morrocans you will never gonna win your separatist referendum.

>>135822760
Ofc that power resides in the central goverment. Spain has always tried to kill us demographically, it send millions of andalusians here in the sixties and now does the same with moroccans and south americans. Don't expect a dirty castilian to comprehend simple facts though. Read this also >>135822817.

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>>135822859
Non-spanish immigrants can't vote, and the few who can won't. Drop this meme.
The big majority (maybe around 80-90%) of xarnegos are against independence, you should know this because you're one of them.
Ethnic catalans form the base of support, but we need some xarnegos to vote for it too because we're a minority in our own country.

>>135823753

No one cares about your illegal votes, You have no army and even if you did you can't fight for shit.

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>>135821934
>PP hates Catalonia
Is that why Madrit gets screwed three times as hard with taxes and you still owe 40 billion €?

>>135823753
Good luck with your New country full of panchitos, moors and gypsies

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>>135807046

You have been visited by the Cagner Mario of Catalonian independence! Freedom from the mongrel mainlanders will bestow you only if you type "poop little Cagner poop!"

Good luck Catalonia!

>>135823753
>Non-spanish immigrants can't vote
They can, if they have the citizenship. For spanish ex-colonies(south america) you need to live in Spain for only two years to apply for citizenship.
Still most "ethnic catalans" live in Barcelona.

>>135824824
poop little Cagner poop!

kek

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>>135824286
Spanish army won't do shit and you know it.

>>135824453
Madrid is the capital you dumbfuck, any capital anywhere in the world pays more taxes because that's where most business' headquarters are located. Catalonia still has a deficit.
And remember that Catalonia's debt is 35% of its GDP, but Spain's debt is 100% of its GDP. Good luck trying to pay it up without us.

>>135824529
Don't forget the worst kind of shitskin: castilians.

>>135807046
>ethnonationalists

Are you retarded? Catalunya is by far the most ethnically diverse place I ever had the displeasure of visiting.

>>135824824
poop little caganer poop

>>135824840
Immigrants don't give a fuck about Spain, much less about Catalonia. Of course some of them can vote (although a minority) but still won't bother to do it. Maybe 5% will vote, maybe even 10%, but I hope they don't because most are pro-spanish.

Ethnic catalans are evenly distributed along all the territory of Catalonia and in urban/rural settlements. Xarnegos, instead, are almost all concentrated in big cities specially in the Barcelona metro area.
Barcelona is the biggest city so of course it has the biggest total number of catalans, but it's low as in %. Funny thing the most catalan neighbourhoods of Barcelona are also the richer and most educated. Really makes one think.

>>135825476
>Catalonia still has a deficit.
How does that work in your mind?
You do understand the primary sector (poor regions) need to be subsidized, right? Or should everyone in Spain be a slave to the ancient Cuckalonian Kangz from outer space

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>>135826348
>>135824840
Forgot pic.

>>135825871
You're in Puerto Rico and probably have been to the USA, you're crazy if you compare the diversity there with the one here.
Anyway the point was that every ethnic group deserves its own country.

Spanish are so lazy, wheres the infographic guys. I'll cheer for your soccer team if you make an infographic.

>>135826441
Not my fault Castile is a backward shithole and neither that the richest regions don't want to be spanish. Improve your homeland and stop depending on other people's money.
Btw I don't even care about what we give to other autonomies, the biggest problem is all the useless castilian scum in Catalonia living off our taxes. The real deficit is the money transfer from ethnic catalans to xarnegos.

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>>135826667
This should be a start.

>>135807046
PODEMOS is nothing but Castrist tier cancer. You are making the biggest mistake in your modern history. It is such a shame to see the land of my ancestors commit suicide.

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>>135826614
New York =/= All USA

Also look at all those ethnonationalists. It's so inspiring, they all share the same ethnic backround. No civic cucks here, no sir.

>>135827393
Up to speed, thanks.

>>135807046
How do you think that the debt that spain currently holds is going to affect Catalans?

Do you think that perhaps Catalan will be able to "shrug off" the debt, or perhaps they will have to accept debt based on the number of people in the new state? (i.e. 23,000 dollars per person, for example, multiplied by the total number of people in this new nation is the new debt total for the nation)

What do you believe is the political situation in Catalan, and how do you think it will evolve? I know that if the midwestern United States seceded, they would be very Republican and much like the middle of Canada. What do you think the political climate is?

Do you think Catalan will have any close relationships such as with Spain and France, or will they attempt to move more towards foreign interests, relatively speaking?

The star is not comie, it comes from the american revolutions

>>135827534
>an indepent nation from spain against another geting independence
Fuck off

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>>135827534
>PODEMOS is nothing but Castrist tier cancer.
I know, no catalan votes Podemos but this has nothing to do with the independence movement.

>>135827889
Fuck you and your fake images monkey. Imagine being the spawn of a nigger and a castilian, literally the worst type of subhuman.

I'm here purely because I know nothing about post-Franco Spain and I want to watch people be silly.

If we get the indepence the migrants will get out to the EU with the spanish pasport
If we dont catalans will get redpilled about the actual numbers of catalans
And if the spanish military intervenes the EU will start to colapse as other nations will do the same
We will win anyway

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>>135827393
noice

>>135828691
>And if the spanish military intervenes the EU will start to colapse as other nations will do the same
what are you talking about?

Look the military won't be neccesary. Your faggot Puigdemont would be indicted by justice and all will be the same.

>>135828057
Nobody knows, the separatist propaganda hides and avoid answering a lot of questions, like how they will manage to stay in the EU, the huge debt Catalonia have, the questions about the pensions, the real economic impacct of the session, etc.
Retards just go full muh indapandencia! muh flag!

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>>135828446
This one fake too sandnigger?

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>>135807046

>>135828691
Military Arm depots aren't controlled by exclusively Catalans.

If Catalans get independence by taking on a large amount of debt from Spain, will this lead to similar state secession across Europe? Perhaps in a similar situation?

>>135828057
Each spanish region has debt from the regional goverment, and on top of that there is the debt of the central govement. Catalonia should only pay its own regional debt and forget about everything else. I don't see how the spanish goverment can enforce us to pay part of their debt, but even if we're forced to pay all of it won't be that bad because the economy of Catalonia will grow a lot when we become independent.

Hard to say what the political climate would be. First of all it is important to keep in mind that there is a sharp ethnic divide in Catalonia. Catalonia has always been a rich region and this caused millions of immigrants from other parts of Spain to come here, so much that now we (native ethnic catalans) are now a minority. Our mentality is kinda libertarian because we have always been good at trade and entrepreneurship but the spanish immigrants favour leftist policies and socialist parties. An independent Catalonia would be a republic that's for sure, and I hope that also pro-business and pro-trade because that was what has made Catalonia so good. Lowering taxes would also be pretty good because now they're too high. The problem will be to do this while the majority of the population (spanish immigrants) like gibs so much.

I think the relationship with Spain will remain very strong, and about France maybe it will become a little closer. I'd like to focus more on foreign interests, specially regarding trade.

>>135830911
>because the economy of Catalonia will grow a lot when we become independent.
how?

>>135829199
1. The EU will grab and not let go anyone willing to join them. This should be common knowledge.
2. Catalonia's debt is 35% of its GDP, Spain's debt is 100% of its GDP.
3. Any economic issue you mention won't be a problem because of the simple fact that Catalonia is richer (per capita) than Spain, if it works being part of it it will work much better on our own.

All you said is bullshit again.

>>135831401
Keep eating jordi

>>135831237
By putting catalans in charge who will legislate pro-business and pro-trade policies. Right now we're stuck with outdated spanish legislation which make trade harder. Just remember that we are:
>16% of total Spain's population
>19% of Spain's GDP
>26% of exports
>24% of value of industrial production
>24% of high-tech workers
>26% of tourism
It's impossible that we won't improve when looking at these numbers. Being a country alone means that many investments that now go to Madrid will go to Barcelona, we win no matter what.

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Well going to sleep. Fucking castilians trolls when will you learn you're too low IQ to win an argument with a catalan.

>>135831871
>By putting catalans in charge who will legislate pro-business and pro-trade policies.
And what will you do with the CUP?