Venezuela YES

>>135784445
lel

I'm Venezuelan rich.

>>135784445
>Socialism
>dollar worth measurement
pick one
Venezuela was ruined by USA and they have same laws as USA and Jews decided they are less worth by push of a button.

>>135785310
Do you have more than $40? Then you have more than the average Venezuelan's monthly wage!

>>135785748
Yes, same house as yesterday, somehow it's 10 times less worth today. Go be more full retarded. Capitalistic retard economics.

Do they mean all of it ? Like the whole WoW economy is worth more than the whole Venezula economy?

Or is it per unit of currency or something? One WoW coin is worth more than one Venezulan Bolivar or whatever?

Because the latter doesn't mean anything, there's all sorts of video games that have currencies with a denomination worth more than one dollar.

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>>135784445
>inb4 it's not REEEEEAL socialism

>>135786239
1 gold in WoW is worth more in USD than 1 Bolivar

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>>135784445

The irony is that World of Warcraft already underwent a period of massive hyperinflation because the developers offered high quality items for less work and skill.

>>135785659
>Venezuela was ruined by USA

wat

>>135784445
Protip: Venezuela became a socialist shithole. Since then, it's had but one possible future.

>>135784445
Can you break even farming gold? Food + electric power + rent < Gold sold on ebay etc?

>>135786239
>>135786664
expanding on this to address your last point
other games will limit the currency to being bought with real money or what have you, WoW currency is constantly generated by infinitely respawning enemies and quest rewards and all that.

A world where every resource is available in unlimited quantity to whoever seeks it has a currency that people are willing to pay more for than an actual real-world country's currency

>>135786782
>be on top
>lesser folk try to emulate you in an effort to join you up top
>fuck it up and ruin themselves trying

some faggots with no sense of responsibility would blame the person on top in this situation.

>>135786351
>that pic
What does it say on his shirt and why does it change from Marx/Engels to Mao.

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>>135784445
>WoW gold worth
Only a cuck would know this. Unplug, go outside and gets some air faggots.

>>135786664
I have 46 million still on EU servers - where everything is worth A LOT more than on US - I'm so rich, damn

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>>135784445
They also have to eat their own shit

>>135785659
>hur dur, venezuela isn't real socialism
>better blame a capitalist country instead

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>>135786782
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela
>Federal presidential constitutional republic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_Venezuela
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Presidential_elections_in_Venezuela
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracas_Stock_Exchange

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States
>Federal presidential constitutional republic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state#States_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Stock_Exchange

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Monetary_Union
>Venezuela
https://www.imf.org/external/np/sec/memdir/memdate.htm
>International Monetary Fund
>List of Members
>Venezuela (December 30, 1946)
>Slovenia (December 14, 1992) (after Socialism)
>Serbia (December 14, 1992) (after Socialism)
>Russian Federation (June 1, 1992) (after Socialism)
*notice no North Korea

http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/data/rms_sdrv.aspx
>The currency value of the SDR is determined by summing the values in U.S. dollars

NO SOCIALISM HERE, JUST AMERICAN CAPITALISM TRYING TO STEAL OIL AND OWNERSHIP FROM PEOPLE
Yes, you are living in American dollar world, who steal your salary every day in Slovenia to enrich themselves, never forget that.

>>135789201
How many times does USA needs to create democracy in one country? Fuck off already, your democracy doesn't works, Socialism works.

>>135789201
>1918
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Vicente_G%C3%B3mez
>This, in turn, won him the support of the United States and Europe and economic stability.
>1952 - 1958
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Venezuela_(1948%E2%80%9358)
>the CIA sponsored a coup in which Arbenz was overthrown.
>1954
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
>CIA also contacted Marcos Pérez Jiménez of Venezuela and Rafael Trujillo
>1960 - 1970
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor
>based on formerly secret CIA documents from 1976, in the 1960s and early 1970s plans were developed among international security officials at the US Army School of the Americas
>Light green: sporadic members (Colombia, Peru, Venezuela).
>1993
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking#Venezuela
>A failed CIA anti-drug operation in Venezuela resulted in at least a ton of cocaine being smuggled into the United States and sold on the streets. The incident, which was first made public in 1993, was part of a plan to assist an undercover agent to gain the confidence of a Colombian drug cartel.
>2002
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93Venezuela_relations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Venezuelan_coup_d%27état_attempt
>CIA documents indicate that the Bush administration knew about a plot weeks before the April 2002 military coup. They cite a document dated 6 April 2002, which says: "dissident military factions...are stepping up efforts to organize a coup against President Chavez, possibly as early as this month.
>2002 - 2003
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_general_strike_of_2002%E2%80%9303
>Petróleos de Venezuela, was at this time 60 per cent owned by a United States company, Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), which is "closely linked to the U.S. government", with "former chiefs of staff, ex-CIA agents
>2007
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_constitutional_referendum,_2007#CIA_allegations

>>135784445

Source?

>>135789535

The fact the the US gov. did shady things on S.A. countries in the past century doesn't mean the fact that my country is a socialist 3rd world shithole.

So fuck off.

>>135784445
*communism

>>135789938
They are always creating democracy, the democratic job is never done unless the wolves are all full.

>>135784445
It wasn't REAL socialism.

>>135784445
LOL Chinese gold traders. WINNING.

>>135787195
Left: bearded 19th century imbeciles
Right: post-gramesist(?) antifa can't make out last word

>>135789485
What are you talking about dumbass. Democracy and socialism go hand in hand. The real battle is laws based on morals vs laws based on nepotism and greed. The best nation is a constitutional republic which is why we invade your sorry ass countries and write laws for you.

>>135791351
WOW is an American company, so no wonder they deal with imaginary gold.

>>135789938
What we can do it's attack Chavez figure that's all that's holding the regime international image, I didn't wanted to, cause that would be the like accepting that you can't criticise the US.

>>135792253
You mean like the communist nation china who trades with a fiat currency in the real world. HAHAHA. US dollars are backed by oil better than the gold standard in every way.

>>135792226
Democracy is a different political system of laws than Socialism, totally. Voting being one of important aspects of democracy. Socialism doesn't speculates, democracy speculates a lot. Democracy has international privatization of banks, currency and industry, Socialism has nationalization. Socialism doesn't exchanges with different currency and can't be compared with dollar, since it has nothing to do with dollar, it's illegal in Socialism. I don't know what meme democracy you talking about, but when i quote wikipedia or any other political site we talking about democracy as political system, not some bullshit what people think democracy is or what people think socialism is.

>>135784445

So, are you better off gold farming in venezuela than working?

That's pretty based

>>135785748

>tfw 5 million gold

Can I buy venezuela?

>>135784445
>commies will defend it

>>135792726
Dude bitcoins are valuable in Venezuela.

Get your head around that.

>>135792670
>Socialism doesn't speculates,
except when they speculate that something is theft

>>135792648
>Communist China
Yes, but not Communist Hong Kong. China doesn't includes Hong Kong and it was China who joined international monetary organization, but then came Communist party and took over mainland China and Hong Kong still being under Anglo and international organizations. Now Communists run Hong Kong, still isn't China, it's a Chinese sandbox.

>>135785990
Location, nigga.
Lrn2 real estate

>>135785659
I'm glad you subhuman retards are on the other side of the border

>>135792860
Theft doesn't exist in Socialism my little burglar ghetto friend. Police patrol and designated cultural towns mean you and your money can't escape prosecution. Also illegal Pajets like yourself can't appear in Socialism, they can't enter and can't leave, it's impossible for illegals to exist.

I don't use hookers but I think its a good measure of how fucked a country is. How much is the going rate there? Like, a coke?

>>135793105
Yes, i learned it: hurr durr GDP i am a retard capitalist.

>>135784445
And there's nothing to spend either on.

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>>135787472
You got that the wrong way round.
NA has the really cheap tokens/high value gold.

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>>135785659

>>135793841
Ok American, explain to me, how Socialism has left and right political parties if it literally has only 1 political party? We didn't had leftists and right wing in Socialism. The one who made that picture is clearly dumb.

>>135792670
If off democracy isnt a government its just the natural will of the individual. Socialism(the will of the collective) makes a person a liability while democracy(in a republic)makes them an asset. Supporting socialism is balls out bonkers as naturally the collective breaks off into camps which leads to a dictatorship in no time.

>>135789239
America had good relations with VZ and developed pretty much their entire Cold War oil infrastructure until they decided to go socialist and nationalize everything, including a bunch of US oil company property down there. That is entirely, 100% entirely their fault.

>>135784445
You know that any western captialistic country would also collapse if it got the same treatment as Venezuela from the US and the international community, right?

You know that there are several Capitalistic countries in South America that is worse off than Venezuela, right?

>>135794229
I know they teach you garbage in USA, but public ownership isn't the same as collective ownership, neither those two are the same as government ownership. Government buildings aren't accessed by public. If i designate a public run area, that means public decides how much they pay and what they want to buy there, they vote. When government assigns a public space to you, then you are just cattle moving there, they decide how much you pay and what is build, that's how USA works, that's neither collective, neither government ownership, neither public ownership, that's a hybrid between governmental and private billionaire powers.

Aren't there other currencies that are worth less than WoW gold already?

>>135785310

>RMT with the use of botting is illegal

>>135794416
several other - more - Capitalistic countries*

Venezuela is a Capitalistic country

>>135784445
Bitcoin is worth thousand times more than the US dollar.

>>135794103
You really are a special kind of stupid aren't you?

>>135794416
>You know that any western captialistic country would also collapse if it got the same treatment as Venezuela from the US and the international community, right?

Mexico got hit just as hard by the oil price drop and it's somehow not on the verge of complete society collapse

>>135794103
What in the fuck is this supposed to mean

>>135789938
>shady things
THEY FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM AND DID NOTHING WRONG

>>135794678
>>135794678
>public ownership isn't the same as collective ownership
same result though

>>135784445

In any MMO, the so called virtual currency - fiat conversion is made according to the price of which the game company sells their currency.

Problem is the real value comes actually from virtual currency - fiat conversion which means we are talking about the black market and not the official prices.

>hint: its lower

>>135795338
But Mexico didn't get the same treatment from the international world. Do you think your own country would not collapse if you were isolated by all your neighbors and from most international trade?

As well as big corporations within France that opposes your government would stop production/sabotage? Which is also a big factor in Venezuela.

Everybody talks as if Venezuela is some country where the government owns most of the production, which isn't true. Most is private, and most media there is also private and owned by rich Venezuelans.

I'm not trying to say that Venezuela is a country to follow, but it isn't really that much of an argument against "Socialism" (whatever that means these days) as it is made out to be.

So is it talking gold or Battle.net currency?

>>135795564
Private ownership is also part of collective ownership. You probably mean social ownership, which isn't government or public ownership.

>>135796079

If gobernament didn't ban trucks they wouldnt sabotage production

>>135784445
It's not socialist.

>>135796079
>But Mexico didn't get the same treatment from the international world
Which is ?

You seems to forget it was CHAVEZ'S DECISION to isolate VZ from the rest of the world to prevent that very same "International influence" from fucking up his plans by kicking foreigners and "seizing" the assets of oil contractors

>>135794678
Whats your point? Yes the world is fucked up but at the end of the day we still have a constitution here. Written laws that separate powers that all people can rally behind and defend if compromised. I will never shill for socialism you are mad.

Socialism = means of production are owned by workers/society.
Venezuela is not socialist.

>>135796379
Ok, I don't know anything about that. But it's a fact that they are sabotaging the economy - and any economy would be hurt by that obviously.

>>135796519
Infiltration, funding of opposition/influencing opposition to sabotage the economy and trade isolation.

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>>135785659
Wow socialism failed, better blame all the problems on big bad usa simple wow! Fuck i'll take i've been expecting this for 100 tim.

>>135789485
>how many times does a country that outlived every socialist country need to keep ruining socialist countries?
commies are THIS stupid

>>135796430
>>135796577
It's in the pursuit of socialism. If it wasn't trying to transition to a socialist society, this wouldn't be happening.

>>135795675

>what a mess of a post

Wow gold's true value derives from the price at which the one who holds it could sell to potential buyers, instead of the price of which blizzard sells their tokens. Which is actually illegal and has a value lower than the former.

>>135797011
Are they transitioning into a Socialist society?

I am still not buying that Venezuela is in this mess because of it's policies mainly. Any country would be in this mess with everything surrounding the country.

>>135796554
>people decide in USA
What do you decide? You didn't write laws, you didn't vote taxes, you don't decide what politicians do. Capitalism aka sprinkled monarchy isn't giving any control to people, it's one step above shackled monarchy system, it's shekeled system.

>>135784445
Venezuela has more inflation than infinite respawning mobs with gold.

Lel, guess Thatcher was right.

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>>135784445
IT WASNT REAL SOCIALISM

lol, Venezuelan WoW gamers are now grinding to eat in real life.

>>135798308
And they said playing games was a waste of time.
"Get a real job" they said.

>>135789239
>steal oil
why would we steal oil?? when they happily sell it to us and we happily buy it to keep that socialist utopia afloat.

>>135798308
better start grinding those boars Venezuela

>>135796577
>Communism = means of production are owned by workers/society.
Fixed that for you.

With that said socialism is a cancer. A cancer the world keeps importing to the USA as you immigrate here and try to change our laws. 1776 is going commence again and as libertarians capitalists will come together to stomp you out if you arent careful.
>>135798053
As long as the constitution stands theres always hope here. We are infiltrated with neo cons and communists yet are still standing. A testament to our just laws. Our laws cannot be changed by a majority and thats a great thing. We are nothing like a monarchy you dolt we are a constitutional republic.How many times do i need to repeat myself for you to understand. Commies really do deserve helicopter rides.

>>135798589
Thats the great thing about owning intellectual property, getting others to do the work for you.

>>135784445
>US-led embargo on country, forcing all neighbors to join. no exports out (including oil) and no food allowed in
>US pays drug cartels to burn farms growing food to the ground and turns a blind eye to flooding the country with drugs

This is why communism never works. It isn't allowed the work. It will never be allowed to work.

Also, the Internatinal jewing agency rates the country's """value""" of their money by how willing the country is to hand complete control of the money supply to the IMF-approved jews. Scoring high isn't exactly a good thing.

>>135798589
Lowering value and raising prices of housing is nothing more than stealing, much worse than tax stealing.

>>135799738
lowering the price of housing? wtf does that have to do with anything?? you mean the crash in oil prices?? communist mad because we can produce oil again?? I like Hugo threatened the U.S by saying "we'll stop selling oil to the U.S" "we'll sell more oil to China" now they cry "muh fracking" funny how shit changes from 2004 to 2017

>>135800034
Nothing wrong with prices and taxes if people decide them, so they never change unless people change them, as long as it benefits what people designated those taxes and prices for. Working for no value and buying for inflated value isn't great life, it's debt slavery.

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>>135800034
Don't worry annon, he's just triggered cause his retarded system is falling flat on its face.

>>135800331
lol wtf are you talking about?

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>>135784445

IT WASN'T REAL

>>135799055
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Venezuela

>The economy of Venezuela is largely based on the petroleum sector and manufacturing.[17] Revenue from petroleum exports accounts for more than 50% of the country's GDP and roughly 95% of total exports. Venezuela is the sixth largest member of OPEC by oil production.
>Since Hugo Chávez's "socialist revolution" half-dismantled its PDVSA oil giant corporation in 2002 by firing most of its 20,000-strong dissident professional human capital, and imposed stringent currency controls in 2003 in an attempt to prevent capital flight,[20] there has been a steady decline in oil production and exports and a series of stern currency devaluations, disrupting the economy.

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>>135785659
>everytime a socilaist country falls it's CIA

>>135785659
>same laws as the USA

Notice how every retarded poster on here blames the Jews, no matter if they're socialist or a nazi

>>135800433
I am talking about you being a dirty kike. Go fix your god-created penis.

>>135795059
Tell me this when bitcoin is virtually worthless and the US is crashing like vuvuzela

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>>135800782
Wow so mature, So exhilarating. WTF I am a shill for grommunism now kek.

>>135796577
>Le not reel socializm
Please kill yourself

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>>135800666
>posting that low IQ Christian moron who knows nothing about anything he talks about
Argument discarded.
Picture related proves Peterson is a retard who talks about things he knows nothing about. So Soviet Cultural Marxists Union subverted population by subverting 1% of people with mechanic and doctor's degrees? Notice, it's high education, not university education.

>>135800489
KICK OUT THE CAPITALISTS. GIVE PRODUCTION TO THE WARLORDS!

>>135800920
Maybe use your Google, type in any degeneracy, trillions of results are all from USA. Take your pills you stupid Christian moron, Soviet Union doesn't controls you.

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>>135801465
AH HA HA HA HA HA

ah i like you, you're funny takes a special type of person to be this keked :D

>>135789535
holy fuck you are retardd

Be aware of Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash

I dont know what you want the american economy is socialism.

the countries that attempt to implement a bit of real capitalism become poor not rich

Which is exactly why it is implemented in 2nd and 3rd world, and promoted by the powerful countries in the world

>>135801096
>goalposting
Yeah, I want a source on that stuff.
And don't post commie propaganda, because I know you will.

>>135801824
>>goalposting
Oops, I meant goal moving

>>135801739
>the countries that attempt to implement a bit of real capitalism become poor not rich

examples?

> ib4 oxymoronuc "state capitalism"

> the american economy is socialism.

no it isnt. Any form of interventionism != socialism

otherwise even monarchies are socialist, which is retarded

>>135786696
Yeah WoD was terrible. Luckily Legion is way better.

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>>135801885
All they do is lower standards and fluff numbers anywho. China is guilty of this modern day.

>>135784445
More like power of banana republic.

>>135784445
KEK

>>135801824
>everything my Christian cuck brain can't handle is propaganda, but me promoting dollar into every shit isn't propaganda, btw 100 versions of bible are all correct and enable me to kill anybody against it
Do you have any value among 1000 of your posts or is it just pointless baiting and insulting? I will write in my notebook as honorary evidence when i see any statistic or any scientific thing coming from Bulgarian flag.

>>135802192

dude, if the USSR had more and better engineers than USA, why didn't they win the cold war?

>>135787139
don't think socialism is the methodology we use

>>135786351
Maybe the socialism was too extreme. All the extremes are bad.

>>135784445

economic warfare

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>>135802192
>commie so butthurt that his entire post consist of ad homs
Like clockwork.
Where's the source also?

>>135802421

that is a fallacy tho

"ice cream made 100 % of shit is bad, so 50 % shit ice cream is good"

>>135802355
Question is why do Commies control USA/Venezuela if they are non-existing and everything is run by dollar.

so I can vacation in Venezuela now with all the gold I've hoarded?

>>135802355
But they won

So i can trade in my wow gold for Venezuelan bucks?


>>135785659
>socialism fails like usual
>it becomes the fault of another country

lol, thats a new one.

>>135784445
How does the average Burger stand to profit from this??? Can I like buy a bunch of Venezuelan real-estate and wait for shit to blow over and become filthy rich?

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>>135785990

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>>135802546
Here's the source, now don't get brain clot.

>>135802559
I like what you are implying, but i don't think it fits properly.

>>135784445

Wish they had attractive women there.

>>135784445
Keked heartily. But jokes aside, that's actually ALSO the power of capitalism that brought wow gold to that point

>>135802629
> they are non-existing

who ever claims that commies don't exist? are you insane?

>>135802685

You don't win by losing 43 % of your manufacturing power in 5 years and collapsing into 21 smaller republics

>>135802559
That's a bad analogy. It more like exercise. Exercise is good so you exercise 100% of the time but die of dehydration.

>>135801465
Nigger

>>135784445
Not socialism. Result of capitalist encirclement.

>>135803056

> comparing socialism to exercise

talk about bad analogies

>>135785659
They were ruined by idiotic economic policy that was based on assumption that oil prices can only go up.

>>135802872
>more black black people
is there such thing as a double nigger?

>>135803011
But you do lose by losing 43 % of your white masculinity in 50 years and collapsing into smaller safe spaces

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>>135802872
>still no source fo his propaganda graph
Don't worry tho, next time your socialist utopia will surely succeed.

>>135802851
>we are controlled by banks says le angry man at Cultural Marxists
>we have hope in alt-media whores by talking about how Cultural Marxists are to blame
>we are totally controlled by Jews and banks, but somehow Socialism is to blame
>we are totally controlled by billionaires and banks, but somehow this alt-right politician will save us
The usual ramblings of Christian retards.
>Hey, lets just vote, everything will be better next election, le hurr durr. Protesting is bad, violence is bad, we need to vote and wait how Shekleberg sponsors pro-Israel alt-debaters to tell us how we should vote for that guy at next election

>>135787627
Vote for big government
Shoot big government in the eye with slingshot
They club you
Help I'm being mistreated

>>135803389

that shit started years before the USSR was a thing

No one forced Wilrood Wilson to give jews power over the federal reserve or women the vote in 1919

that the USSR existed was more a product of the civilizational collapse that started with World War 1, the same thing that caused Weimar Germany and the 60s Counter Revolution

How much gold do I need to buy a house in Venezuela?

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>>135803325
More like
>The country has suffered from inflation for decades and they thought they could offset capital flight with a currency exchange but Saudi overproduction caused the bubble to burst so the economy is quickly resetting to its capitalism-without-social-democracy levels.

MUH FREE MARKET wouldn't 'fix' Venezuela. The free market is turning it into the same kind of shithole as other non-global north "free markets".

>>135803721
I have 80k gold i think. I could buy a condo.

>>135803442
>Christianity will save us
>Christianity will remove degeneracy
>Christianity will preserve white race
>muh right wing politicians will save me, even when all he thinks about is his money
Don't you get tired after 2000 years being brownified by Christians and literally having no borders between Christians and no interracial ban in church? It's time to wake up from your delusion. You just don't understand that concentration camps and killing people at borders is necessary for your survival. Go cry me a river you anti-Communist. You will be replaced by niggers, maybe not now, since your salary is too low, but you will be getting nothing, like a fool you are.

>>135803764

dude, General Motors and a bunch of other companies, even small bakeries, being given "to the workers" have more to do with then complete economical collapse than anything else

the low oil prices are not making Iran, which has similar levels of historical inflation, collapse, nor do they are causing Russia to either, which is affected by the crisis as well

>>135803698
Anon, The Jews did build USSR

>>135803764
Same happened in Canada. The conservatives put all their eggs in the Alberta oil sands. Now Trudeau is getting shat on because muh economy.

>>135795338
>t's somehow not on the verge of complete society collapse
It isn't?

Current price:

$1 = BsF12k

>>135804298

they only could do that because they were financed New York after Wilrood Wilson gave them the federal reserve

the USSR existing is irrelevant for the current crisis of masculinity and jewish take over, as it had ALREADY started by 1917

>>135784445
How much to buy a qt venezuela sex slave?
I'm asian so no I am not destroying the white race. She will be for fucking, not breeding.

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>>135804111
>dude atheism lmao
Like Orthodox christianity is pro-niggers/pro-immigration.
You really think the 500 of muslim slavery didn't teach us something, you piece of walking commie shit?
And I'm not even a chrisitian, I just value the christian morals which are part of my culture. Christianity was the only one which kept us from the unwashed turk hordes, but your little marxist brain is too dumb to realize that a demoralized atheist socialist system will be the first to fall under jihadi sharia law.
Now go to bed, kid. Its way past your bedtime.

>>135804699
*500 years

>>135804201
But anon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_financial_crisis_(2014%E2%80%932017)

>>135804347
>The conservatives put all their eggs in the Alberta oil sands

as opposite to..??

What other resources Canada has that anyone else needs?

one way or another, to be able to give a good living to Ahmed and Chang you have to produce from non-meme industries

>>135804581
>Remove USSR
>Hitler wins
>Less faggotry
>Somehow Irrelevant
Anon...

>>135804766

that is what I mean

the crisis didn't cause widespread chaos and death in Russia as it has in Venezuela, Putin remains extremely popular

>>135804581
What started in 1917 you retard? International monetary organizations didn't exist in 1920ies, but you had Anglo stock trade long before. I though your Jerusalem Jews have 3000 year old history or more, now all of sudden it's 1917. Crusaders were giving Jews money centuries ago in quest to give Jews Jerusalem with golden cherry on top.

>>135804886

>>Remove USSR
>>Hitler wins

lol no

if the jews wanted Roosevelt to nuke every single german city, he would have done that

ameriburgers love their jewpuppets

>>135804111
Christians worship a dead Jew. It's stated plain as day but it's as if everyone here magically forgets or ignores it.

>>135804699
Tell me what it taught you. Maybe you should also learn how Christians are the original problem why Muslims even were there and how they were defeated and waiting for god for 500 years until atheist Mongols came to the rescue.

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>>135784445
Is Garrosh, dare I say, /ourguy/?

>>135805002

> International monetary organizations didn't exist in 1920ie

wat? who is talking about international organization? I am talking about Wilrood the Zionist puppet giving them control of the economy through the Federal Reserve, back in 1913

That jews then proceeded to actively finance the bolsheviks is well known

Crusaders were christcucks so no surprises there

>>135804908
Probably because they went through it all already with the mass-privatization and collapse of living standards in the 1990s.

>>135805396
>Crusaders were christcucks so no surprises there

lol.. talking about Crusaders and you have no idea who they was and what they did

You guys are retarded. You think food is a hallmark of capitalism? Do you know how heavily subsidized agriculture in the US is? Not only is the ownership not capitalistic the crops have always been picked by slaves or mestizos who have no legal status.

Get your duck my he'd on straight. The government fixes prices on many good too and there is regulation.

Agriculture in the US is not a product of the free market.

>>135784445
Can they piggyback a rebooted Bolivar on WoW Gold? Sounds better than Roggenmarks.

>>135804785
How about anything else but oil. Canada has lumber, minerals, and probably some of the best aerospace engineering in the world. But no. Oil is a limited resource.

>>135805396
Anon, federal reserve is kind of like a central bank. Whole world is govern by central banks. Problem is that it is a central bank, maybe, but real problem is that it's not nationalized and problem is that it's connected with other central banks. Founding fathers of USA were Commies by your definition, since they wanted nationalized banks, government/public owned stocks, not privatization. You just been confused by your overlords into thinking free trade works in your favor.

>>135805657

they destroyed Constantinople, allowing the ottomans to #turk it 100 years later

that is all you need to know about the worshipers of a religion which only promise is that if you give up on this world you will get to worship the Jewish War god Yveh for FUCKING eternity

Only a deluded cuck would find such religion appealing

Political interest arises from the realization that this world is the only world that we got and you can't love your enemies, which are the enemies of civilization, much less let them win because a zombie promised you a kingdom not of this world

>>135785659

Venezuela failed because it's full of lethargic, low IQ brown monkeys. Socialism can work only in white countries as the Scandinavians proved. But not for lonmg as they keep getting their own influx of low IQ brown hordes from Africa and the Middle East.

>>135802872
It's almost like you tell goys exactly what they want to hear so they'll do what you want. Being Commies I thought you of all people would understand that.

>>135784445
I don't care about socialism vs capitalism anymore.

honestly in a primarily white country either would work. It's when it get's strained by people who don't see the value of the system where socialism fails or you don't have the intellectual capital to keep society functioning/planned.

Venezuela went down because they threw all their eggs into one basket. They took all the other subsidies away from farming, tech, medicine etc and threw it all into oil because that was making money at the time. Oil goes to shit, and then boom they had no induestry whatsoever and their population is too corrupt and stupid to handle this. Thus socialism overstretches itself and we get breadlines.

>>135785748
Does this mean I could move to Venezuela with like $20,000 USD and live like a king?

>>135806218

> Does this mean I could move to Venezuela with like $20,000 USD and then be violently murdered?

fixed

>>135806000

you make a confusion between Christianity and Judaism, are 2 different things. And Crusaders had nothing in common with religion, they was pure soldiers.

>>135805687
>a Texan cowboy who owns amazing amounts of country sized land and employs illegals to work for less than native worker somehow isn't free market capitalism
Socialistic countries don't have problems with illegals, they are military secured countries on borders and inside. You have problem with illegals because you are illegal free trade, absolutely no government control. You are struggling and promoting how super you are doing your job, when in actuality you don't have control.

>>135806208
> in a primarily white country either would work

it didn't work in Eastern Europe. The experiment was already tried and socialism sucks

/r/ing the comparative wages between East and West Germany

>>135784445
I refuse to believe that the Bolivar just now became less valuable than WOW gold. Surely it must have been for years.

>>135806218
not really. you can buy a fuck ton food, pay rent and shit but most luxury stuff are valued by $
also this >>135806361

>>135806401
Judaism does not have a heaven, so I don't see why would there be a confusion about this

the promises of Jesus are quite clear

>>135801096
>marxists hand out meaningless degrees like skittles

Wow, it really is happening in the US. We're fucked.

>>135806218
Yep, I was thinking of doing so myself.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VlBzre4-Krc

>>135806208
>I don't care about socialism vs capitalism anymore.

you should care, none of them are perfect but chose capitalism, because socialism > communism > dictators = end of freedom.

>>135794416
Do socialists actually believe that they can expropriate property from foreign businesses and suffer no consequences? It's almost as if when you steal from people who invest in your economy fewer people will spend money where you can get at it. Not being able to do business in America didn't ruin Venezuela or Cuba, government planning purposefully destroyed their wealth to the benefit of their own elite. Exactly what sort of damage could an embargo do to these places when all international trade with the US is exploitative capitalism?

>>135806495
the reason germany took off after reunification was because of the fact that east germany had all the industry from communism. I would never argue for (((communism))), but some socialism imo is okay in a primarily white country.

honestly the socialism vs capitlism convo can wait once they're no longer trying to make us minorities in our own countries.

>>135806029
How many more times do i need to tell you people and you know that too.
Socialism:
not freedom (check)
big government (check)
suppression of liberty (check)
no freedom of movement (check)
So logic should tell you then that Socialism doesn't has problem with illegals or mafia gangs. Remember gulag, that's where mafia sleeps. Venezuela doesn't has 1 sector in business that is supervised by police or government, it's all illegal, you sell cabbage on street, nobody asking with what you sprayed that, it's like in USA, you spray with whatever chemical you want and you work illegally, like California.

>>135807005

> I would never argue for (((communism))), but some socialism imo is okay in a primarily white country.

fair enough, I think that social-minded capitalism works, but (((capitalism))) is just predatory nonsense

please do notice that wages are STILL lagging in East Germany, I think there is a case to be made that freer marker has even long-lasting positive cultural effects

>>135801465
>type in any degeneracy, trillions of results are all from USA
Hmmm, couldn't possibly because of (((them))), right?

>>135807038
>30 posts by this id
stop shitposting now Janez.

>>135807038
Socialism just has the problem where the government is basically the mafia gang and literally everyone else gets paid like they're illegals.

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>>135807312

>>135799055
>US-led embargo on country, forcing all neighbors to join. no exports out (including oil) and no food allowed in
I sincerely hope that you don't actually think that things you invented in your own mind, such as the above, are part of reality.

>>135806585
Food and rent it's enough if you know what to buy.

Making money out of crisis it's so profitable that the caracas stock market it's on the rise, you can exchange bitcoins too.

>>135784445
When jews take over a country everybody becomes poors slaves.

>>135799055
>>US-led embargo on country, forcing all neighbors to join. no exports out (including oil) and no food allowed in

holy fuck

this is what left-/pol/ actually believes

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>make retarded socialist government
haha take that america
>retarded socialist government fails miserably
god damnit america you did this! youuuuuuuuu!
>meanwhile in america

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>>135784445
So this... is the power... of having your markets crash in capitalism?!

>>135784445
Time to go shopping.

It's like /pol/ is supporting maidan coup v2 by courtesy of (((USAID))) again...nothing new here.

>>135807822

> failed capitalist state

like Somalia right?

it is never real communism, Mohamed Siad was a follower of the Austrian school, amirait?

>>135807822
Have fun eating your neighbor to survive in your communist (((Utopia)))

>>135807991

> geopolitics is like a soccer game where there are only two sides that never intertwine

dude wat

>>135807607
You would know if you had Socialism, everyone would get paid the same and you would have rich people stealing 10 times or more bigger salaries their fat asses didn't work for.

>>135808284
I WANT TO GET PAID THE SAME AMOUNT AS A CEO BECAUSE I GRILL BURGERS GIVE ME FREEE SHIT PLS IM A LAZY NIGGER HURR HURR

>>http://archive.is/5wqw5
>>135807784

>>135807992
>it is never real communism
No shit, communism is a utopian ideal, not an economic/legal system. Venezuela's problems all have to do with capitalism.

>>135808555
Venezuela's problems all have to do with the government expropiating random shit for 17 years

>>135807992
No anon, it's not the rich people, it's you, go hang yourself in your room for market crash, so rich people can escape from dinner party to orgy on Hawaii with your former wife.

>>135785659
ZYZEK PLS

>>135787223
go back to redt faggot

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>>135807992
it is never real capitalism, my infallible, perfect, system of capitalism has never been tried

>>135808011
People already do that in capitalist countries though. They literally burn food and throw food away while millions starve. Nice system you have there

>>135808284
No instead you would have people seizing the money just like the collective initially seized the government. Like i said socialism makes you a liability while capitalism empowers you.

>>135807822
>the elected government defends the right to private property
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTuZYt88ddM

>>135808500
I almost want to believe we somehow made a cancergun for some high stakes world espionage, because the alternative is that people are just retarded sometimes.

>>135806457
>You have problem with illegals because you are illegal free trade

Is slavery the free market too? You didn't address that. Then the workers are missing right granted to the owners we don't have free market we have slavery.

>>135807038
Not real socialism.

>>135808486
No nigger, you get paid for your work the government can measure for everybody to see and we see what we see that you will run to other country, since you stolen money and no you don't even know how to grill a burger.

>>135806029

> Socialism can work...

Some ideas are so terrible not even white people can make them work.

Socialism will never end as long as there are Jews and low-iq shitskins.

>>135806218
If you can avoid being killed for that money

>>135784445
and tf2 and cs:go keys are worth more than every other currency. scumbag traders still own all markets and currencies no matter what they are or where they are.

>>135808724

> the markets never crash under commie regimes

but then, they are in a permanent crash

>>135807770
Lefties live in a land of make believe.

>>135808973
The government decides who lives or dies. No thanks.

>>135809005
White people can make anything work.

>>135808818
And how many of those deaths are African shitholes?

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>>135805358

>>135808818
>while millions starve

why the fuck should any capitalist be concerned or be reponsible about Mtongo Mboro having 9 children he can't feed?

>>135808555
Actually it's always real Communism...right up until it collapses. Just like how Moshe Bergstein is white, until things start getting too hot, and then he's miraculously a Jew.

>>135809150

fuckers owe us a shit ton of money

if there was a "blockade" against Venezuela we would be the first to know

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>>135808818
>People starving in (social democracy) are proof of its failures.

Meanwhile:
>>135809200
>>135809260
...people starving under capitalism is good and justified.

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>>135808818
So if everyone who isn't capitalist starves, but everyone who is capitalist doesn't starve, why not just become capitalist?

>>135808818

That picture is false. Capitalism sure as hell is flawed but dont you fucking tell me that communism is better at solving the problem of scarcity or that capitalism is to blame for all of it.

I tell you my theory. Both regimes fail because human beings like to exploit. Its not good enough to have your needs covered. You need to have more than the other guy.

>>135809102
Of course it didn't. What crashed and is continuously crashing and causing your mental illness is your propaganda how Communism is crashing.
You need to start taking responsibility for your failure in Venezuela and other Latin American countries, it goes back a lot, with Christian rape creation of population from slaves, to selling out to money every day and you would do it today if you got money, sell out your whole town, wouldn't you? Sure you would.

>>135809433

> under socialism everyone starves, but they don't mean it so it is all OK
> under capitalist useless niggers starve, making the world a better place to live


oh my goodness, which one to choose?

>>135808935
The heart attack gun got disclosed, a cancergun it's not even hard to make.

Just point radiation in the general direction.

>>135809433
Hah thats great.
>>135809458
Exactly. Why would we welfare people who just suck wealth out of the system.

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>>135809433
>40% of Bananas are thrown away
Capitalists need to explain this, RIGHT NOW.

>>135784445
Better than the Dominican Republic

>>135809505
> your propaganda how Communism is crashing.

the only "propaganda about communism is crashing" is the thousands of veneniggers coming to my country every fucking month

Your system is the only system in the world that makes people literally FLEE from it

>>135806029
>Socialism can work only in white countries as the Scandinavians proved
Fuck off, we're capitalistic with some socialism.

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>>135809589
>Under socialism, there is enough food for population to grow
>Under capitalism, population stagnants from an outdated, inefficient, fundamentally flawed system
Ftfy

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kek

>>135809756
You are dreaming again, we are in EU and are backed by dollar, not Dinar.

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>>135809756
>Economic migration from failed capitalists states is not real

...okay

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>>135809932
kek

>>135809731
>> 40% of Bananas are thrown away

bananas are extremely soft and easily damaged by handling

How would exactly communism solve that issue?

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REEEEEEE VENEZUELA IS STATE CAPITALIST MUH CIA COUP NOT REAL COMMUNISM™

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>>135810066
Those shitty images don't work here lefty/pol/ shitskin twink

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>>135810094
It's not just bananas, my guy.

>>135809648
>shoot hugo chavez with top secret radiation gun
>he gets super powers instead
>super socialist is born

>>135809942

the EU is not socialist (yet)

>>135809953
they are fleeing from nigger shitholes, half of them which adopted communist ideologies during the cold war

it didnt change a damn thing

>>135810124
>If only those Communist blaming tranny fuckers would stop blaming Communism
They got prostitutes, so obviously they are capitalistic, that's the oldest capitalistic business, sell your body for money, exactly how modern free trade capitalism wants us to be, sell our physical health and mental health at job for small pay.

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>>135785659
ummmm ok

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>>135810183
>"That pic doesn't phase me."
>Retaliation pic is someone admitting they've had sex at some point.

...okay.

>>135810293
>NO TRUE CAPITALISM THEY MUST HAVE BEEN COMMUNIST SOMEHOW

>>135810293
>the EU is not socialist (yet)

hahahaha...

>>135809162

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-enron-ceo-jeff-skilling-to-leave-prison-early/

Enjoy your corrupt system.

>>135810293
>hurr durr everything is Socialism even when everybody is free trading and a Christian

>>135810094
because rich people hate poor people and bruise bananas on purpose just as a way to attack poor people

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>>135810458
Found the butthurt insane lefty/pol/ tranny. You are not a real woman freak. There are only 2 genders

>>135810506
>Enjoy your corrupt system.

I bet you dream at night to live in USA...

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>>135810222

> fuel
> free

> BUT THEY COULD MAGICALLY TELEPORT THINGS TO AFRICA SO THAT WE CAN HAVE EVEN MORE DAMN NIGGERS IN THE WORLD :-(!!!

>>135810628
I see a Christian. Americans performed first sex change operations. No such thing existed in Socialism. Do anything for money, operate on anybody for money, sounds like capitalism, doesn't it?

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>>135810628
Not even close, friendo.

>>135809731
Feed a man a fish he lives for a day. Teach a man to fish hes set for life.
>>135810569
Newsflash we have homeless shelters for every citizen here. You are just mad we arent giving bananas to monkeys in Africa.

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>>135810820
>We could solve world hunger, but we can't profit from it under a capitalist system.

You are very, very close to a realization here.

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>>135810882
>38 posts by this ID

Typical schizo commie. Get your meds freak you have been posting here for years I remember you get help there is something wrong with your head

>>135787195
>>135791917
diadem

>>135810882

Sounds like freedom to me, why the fuck you want government to tell you what to do in life?

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>>135810882
Hard to have plastic surgeons when your country doesnt eve have access to dental.

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>>135810933
>Newsflash we have homeless shelters for every citizen here.

>He thinks America has de-commodified universal housing.

>>135810458
haha you're too stupid to understand racism

>>135802421
>All extremes are bad.
>photons are bad because they move at the maximum speed

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>>135811000

> We could solve world hunger

You can't "solve" a problem which expand infinitely the more you "solve it"

you can feed them now and you will need 10 % more food for them every single year

it is a recipe for long-term self-ruin

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>>135810891
>You dare insult the Kekistan nation?
>*teleports through you*
>*Slices you in half with a sword*
>Heh, nothing personal kid

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>>135811059
Nah, i am just owning your ass and you are just baiting and getting more owned.
Capitalism has failed you, Christianity has failed you, your wife has failed you, now you running around all confused and trying to blame Socialism for your problems.

>>135793660
The gold on EU realms is in the hand of a small number of people. On US everyone is poor.

>>135784445
You telling me in Venezuela you can make more money playing WoW than actually working? Fuck, sign me up.

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Go back to lefty"GeorgeSorosisbased"/pol/. Every time you spergs raid this board its pure cringe

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>>135811257
>muh Malthusian hypothesis

But anon, the nations with the most food security all have declining birth rates.

>>135811179
You are right theres strict guidelines to acceptance to these programs. But they exist to EVERY citizen looking to improve their life in poverty. No druggies allowed boohoo.

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>>135811132

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>>135811310
#swoleleft

But I thought masculinity was a spook comrade

>>135811157
We don't need plastic surgery, niggers or circumcision, we are beautiful, as never could have been created by god.

>>135811537
>I have never looked into homeless shelters or housing programs in my life, but I'm sure they exist and are perfect.

>>135811452

the nations with the most food security had over-replacement-level birth rates 40 years ago

the fall in birthrate has everything to do with feminism, and zero to do with food security

> but if we give niggers even more food they will somehow stop having children for some reason!

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>>135811552
Lefty/pol/ spergs trully can't meme for shit. It's probably because they are afraid they will offend their nigger and tranny friends or something

>>135784445
People still play World of Warcraft?

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>>135811557
How else are you going to seize the means of production and defend against Nazi invaders

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>>135811634
Why are you pretending to be racist comrade? Racism is a bourgeois concept created to divide the working class. Niggers are based and our comrades

>>135811634
k
>>135811652
Then explain how im wrong. Be happy theres any welfare programs at all frankly.

>>135811329
Fucking swiss bastards

>>135784445
faggots shoulda bought bitcoins when the oil prices tanked.

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>>135811857
>Sovietboo larper

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>>135811908
WTF I hate Che Guevara now?!

>>135811728
So you're saying feminism is the key to ending world hunger?

I have to say, I'm shocked at how woke a turn this is.

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>>135812052
>Commies are the real racists!!!

Are nazbols the cringiest out of all the lefty/pol/ neckbeards

>>135811921
Even accounting for means testing, homeless shelters are few and underfunded. Same with government housing, which has been getting rolled back and gutted due to neoliberalism.

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>>135812154

Forcing all countries to adopt abortion would be more effective and faster, that is how USA stopped nigs from overbreeding

>>135807992
>it is never real communism
Its socialism

>urr durr you are defending it

socialism is still bad/wrong, just drinking piss instead of eating shit

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>>135812329
We need to give free houses to based niggers and refugees!!! They are our comrades borders are a bourgeois trick!!!

>>135811908
Anon, it's ok to be racist when you struggle for survival among the black tide. It's about your rights, your land, foreigner invasion is off the table as much as capitalistic invasion. You kill niggers on your own doorstep, you allow niggers to live in Africa. Colonialists exploited niggers in Africa and imported exploited elsewhere, including natives. Basis of Socialism is your land, you do not care about pineapples in Africa unless king of Africa comes to visit and you exchange presents. You produce at home, you own home, no international connection shall ever divide your plans from owning means of production.

>>135812329
Hard to take care of everyone when they wont fix the government and are applying bandaid solutions.