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Enjoy Vietnam 2.0. The inevitable 100s of 1000s of dead North

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Enjoy Vietnam 2.0.

The inevitable 100s of 1000s of dead North AND South Korean civilians will be on your hands, Trump supporters.

You idiots need to pick up a fucking history book.
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korea 2.0 retard

you stick to drinking tea and we'll handle the adult stuff
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>dead gooks
So?
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>>135775451
Three words: sea of glass.
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>>135775582
>what is an analogy

burger comprehension
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>>135775765
i have an anal log for you right here sweetie
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>>135775740
underage detected
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>>135775451
>yelling at the citizens
>like we have any control
Pick up a civics book, you doof.
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Well, McArthur isn't here to fuck it up, so it might go a bit better than last time.
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>>135775451
>Enjoy Vietnam 2.0.
>The inevitable 100s of 1000s of dead North AND South Korean civilians will be on your hands, Trump supporters.
>You idiots need to pick up a fucking history book.
This isn't the 60's anymore.
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>>135776009
Nah, just meming. Worst Korea will just do tactical strikes and knock out best Korea's nuclear and missile infrastructure. Quick and easy, and if Seoul gets glassed, tough shit for them I guess.
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>>135775451

So Gook Barbeque boogaloo 2.0?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9eybY9qFfY
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>>135775451
>vote for Trump
>get bush's third term

GG FAGGOTS
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>>135776283
True. Because Iraq went so well. Surely attacking the most advanced totalitarian state that ever existed, which is also a nuclear power will go according to plan.
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Teh god empruh will lead us to victor-ee. Dose gooks are weak. Litural-ee Koreeah 2.0

>Implying China won't get involved with a war so close to it's borders.
>Implying modern equipment and additional resources won't be funneled in by the the hundred thousands into North Korea.
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>>135775451
Thanks I will, a draft could really help us out at this point our men have become weak and pussified. It's time to send little old johnny boy into the field, toughen him up, Also time to send all our beautiful immigrants to the war, welcome to the USA. Your ass is grass boy! OORAH MARINE CORP!!!
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>>135775740
Cringe: the post
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>>135776605
OORAH! KILL!!! KILL!!!! BLOOD MAKES THE GRASS GROW!!!! KIIIILLLLLL!!!!!!!!!
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>>135776605
>Thanks I will, a draft could really help us out at this point our men have become weak and pussified. It's time to send little old johnny boy into the field, toughen him up, Also time to send all our beautiful immigrants to the war, welcome to the USA. Your ass is grass boy! OORAH MARINE CORP!!!

And the good thing is, now that trannies are banned from the military, it'll be all the white males who get killed en masse.
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>>135775765
the analogy doesnt work dipshit, you just compared a tropical climate to a temperate climate. or are you such a brainlet that you cant see what lost vietnam?

hint: we stopped using agent orange despite its incredible effectiveness in clearing thick tropical jungles because some poor soulless gooks and stupid insubordinate niggers were getting sick from going places they were told specifically not to go. thats why we lost. you cant fight what you cant see without overwhelming bombing campaigns and the libshit infiltrators didnt allow us to do that.
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Korea has a lot less jungle.

Also since NK has nukes there's justification for nuking them so there wont be major ground battles.
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>>135775582
>you stick to drinking tea

>you stick to conquering half of the known world and we'll handle losing to eastern asians
yep sounds like America, you'll never learn and I don't know why OP gives a fuck 'cause I don't
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Reminder if you hate North Korea you are literally doing the bidding of the kikes.
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>>135775765
and what analogy are you trying to make buttertooth? korea is still at war and has been.

brush your fucking teeth
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>>135776846
>Implying we won't use our immigrants as comin fodder like we did in every other war.
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>>135776903
conquering like the eu conquered you?
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>>135776857
North Korea is far more powerful than the NVA or Vietcong were, and they have nukes.

If you think attacking the norks would end well for anyone, you're beyond help.
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Can't ant wait to rape some nork qts.
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>>135775765
A Korean war would look more like the last Korean war than a Vietnam. Wars in the ME look like Vietnams because they're largely clandestine and fought against partisans and not militaries and governments. A Korean war would be fought against a large and organized military and would likely be massive and spectacular like a larger and longer Gulf War 1 and not something slow and drawn out and more akin to a police action like 21st century Iraq or Afghanistan.
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>>135777127
>burger education
hahaha fuck me you're a retard. Whatever, I can't be bothered deflecting back all of your dumb shit, circlejerk yourselves off more over how much you'll win and be so epic for all I care m8
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>>135775451
If it wasn't for hippies and leftists, South Vietnam would have survived and today they would be as developed as South Korea. Instead, they are among the poorest countries in Asia.
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>>135776889
> there's justification for nuking them so there wont be major ground battles

Nothing screams "I'm a 14 year old COD kiddie" more than this post
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>>135777262
:^) ok mate send my best to your queen

angela merkel
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>>135775451
>100s of 1000s of dead
Listen up cuck. This is your choice. 1 million dead today, or 40 million dead later. You have to pick one.

North Korea is known for using threats to gain concessions. AKA state level blackmail. They will not be a responsible nuclear power. We will have to deal with them whether we like it or not.

Running away from war because you don't want it, doesn't give you escape from it.
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>>135777136
Are you serious? They are stuck in the 60s. The war would be over in less than a week.
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>>135777424
thanks for proving my point
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>>135775451

I don't think you realize just how many people live in South Koreas capital. Millions of civilians will die.
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>>135776971
Reminder: If you are blaming the jews for this, you are literally doing the work of Chinese propagandists.
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>>135777434
Wait for North Korea to die like the USSR did.

I'm glad you weren't alive in the 1980s, let alone wealded any serious power in government else we'd all be dead.
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>>135777532
that you are a quran worshipping dandy

careful not to get too angry or the thought police might literally arrest you for what you post here
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>>135777808
yeah, that
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>>135776605
all marines are rapists and child killers. you should be ashamed you baby raping child killer mentally ill ptsd viagra taking scum fuck. kill all marines when?
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>>135777483
NEVER underestimate a foe. No matter how small or stupid we see them.
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>>135775451
You really think the norks Will have an insurgency? This invasion has been planned for decades and will be over quickly. Plus a prosperous south Korean population will help to convert the norks in a way the south Vietnamese never could.
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>>135775451
First off, us peons have no real say in any important matters. You should know this well bong.

Second, I just feel terrible for the all the Nork citizens. Not saying SK is great, just that being a literal Chinese slave colony is infinitely worse. Those people were born into a 40k like hell, fed lies and not much else, and will likely die in the coming storm.

Thank G*d I was born in the West.
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>>135775451
25,000,000 millennials dead.
>nothing of value was lost.
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>Trump supporters

Liberal and Clinton voter here, national security is non-partisan. Given a choice between American lives and Korean lives, we gonna choose American lives every time. Sorry. The DPRK is a terribly dangerous and psychopathic regime. They're Nazi-tier (muh glorious Korean master race). Fuck em.
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>>135777483
They have massive amounts of conventional weapons and people. We destroy them at a technical level but they are capable of mobilizing a numerical force that hasn't been seen since the last century. So long as China stays out of it we could not conceivably lose this war, but the death toll and the scale of battle will be massive. SK will be devastated and NK will be obliterated. Timescale wouldn't be huge, but I compared it to gulf war 1 which was like a day and a half.
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>>135777881
Mmm dead babies, quit being a faggot
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>>135778015
Planning is not the same as enacting.

All of our past military blunders attest to this naivety of ours.
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>>135777969
We just have to dangle MRE at the soldiers and they'd surrender.
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>>135778144
>liberal and...
Stopped reading
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>>135775451

Vietnam

lol no. The NK people only support their govt out of fear. Kim Jong Un is barely holding to power, as evidenced by his paranoid assassination of his half brother.

Also China wants no part in this mess. They don't want millions of refugees, either.

Even if something military were to happen (unlikely, still, IMO), the war will be short. NK doesn't even have fuel or bullets. half of their army spends half its time doing construction or farm labor instead of military training.
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>>135777483
>The war would be over in less than a week.
Yeah, only if u will bring literally all your forces and russia&china will completly ignore what's happening. And even in that case, all burger soldiers that are deployed in seoul will turn into nuclear ashes.
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>>135775451
>2017
>still thinking NK will do anything
>still not doing big cums
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>>135778144
>2017
>he believes propaganda
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all marines are rapists and child killers. you should be ashamed you baby raping child killer mentally ill ptsd viagra taking scum fuck. kill all marines when?
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>>135778276
>>135778276
>Muh echo chamber has been compromised!

You don't deserve to discuss international relations.
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>>135778282
>The NK people only support their govt out of fear.

You are fucking deluded, the DPRK is the most advanced authoritarian state their is, the people are more indoctrinated than anywhere else in history
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>>135778242
We destroyed Iraq's military capabilities in a day, we have planning and practice for this exact event. Also we have been training for contingencies with the south Koreans for this exact thing.
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>>135777262
British delusions of grandeur are the most pathetic thing on /pol/
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>>135775451

Also, I recommend bombing them with burgers. They will gladly surrender for food.
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>>135776451
Actually yes, Saddam was removed pretty easily
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>>135775451
I don't give a shit? Fuck them. Dirty ass gooks are subhuman filth.
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>>135778353
North Korean propaganda or American propaganda?

Why don't you ready some official statements from the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and tell me how the US should respond to them?
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>>135775451
We are sending all the feminists and social justice warriors to the front line to die first. In communism, you erase history, so these parasites can die with no trace of ever being alive. To their true commie wishes.
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Our best hope is DPRK shooting a nuke first. They do that, and the war is over.
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>>135778481
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>This coming from an American
>Whole of /pol/ hates them
>American opinions only hold up with other Americans, to the rest of the world they're just disregarded as american-centric garbage not even worth replying to

dude no fucking way that isn't satire whew
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>>135778464

O rly?

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-pacific-11868641/north-korea-secret-video-shows-anger-and-poverty
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>>135778610
Give me proofs your media is more reliable.

Protip: you can't.

Usa just needs another war.
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China would never the US puppet SK to expand its borders to China, which is what would result from a NATO-NK war. US exceptionalism is coming to an end and they no longer have the ability to successfully take out NK if China throws its weight into the fray. US was already unable to conquer NK back in the 50s, when the balance of power was vastly in their favour. China would intervene in NK and set up a new puppet if it comes to that point anyway. Best for all parties involved for this to happen.
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>>135777132
no they arent lol how can you be this deluded?
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>>135778481
I actually hope you go to war with North Korea. It would be an absolute shitshow on a never seen before scale, and it wouldn't end well for any side. Fine by me tbqh.
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>>135775765
What is an incorrect analogy Ahmed?
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>>135775451
THe korean war is still active currently in armistice at the moment
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>>135777717
>he says as NK is testing ballistic missiles for delivery of nuclear payloads
Newsflash, captain dipshit, NK is not analogous to soviet russia.
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What do you want us to do? Sit around until they become a real threat? We're gonna fight them inevitably, we may as well kill them while they're small. And do you honestly care about those brainwashed North Koreans? They're essentially ants.
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>>135775451
What about the already hundreds, if not thousands of Koreans dead already at the hands of Kim regime?
This is JUSTICE.
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>>135778289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6dzteTY6fk

NK is a paper tiger. The reason they are pushing nuke weapons so hard is because they know conventional military is a joke.
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>>135778808
My point is, our media doesn't have to propagandize anything, all we have to do is read what North Korea is officially saying, like:

>“If the American imperialists provoke us a bit, we will not hesitate to slap them with a pre-emptive nuclear strike. The United States must choose! It’s up to you whether the nation called the United States exists on this planet or not.”

That's just a small taste of the crazy shit they say. They're doing our "propaganda" for us.
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>>135778941
DPRK will impode well within the next 30 years.

But yeah, go ahead and be responsible for the deaths of millions of civilians in South Korea and Japan, I'm sure that will improve America's footing on the world stage. And 1000s of American troops will die at the very least.
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>>135775451
http://www.latlmes.com/breaking/joint-security-area-hit-by-north-korean-shelling-1

>"SOUTH KOREAN GUARDS AT DMZ TRUCELINE CONFIRMED INJURED"
>"35+ FATALITIES"
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>>135778728
this surrealism shit is really strudeling my noodle
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Lmao USStratCom will blow their missiles out of the sky dude
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>>135779214
>our media doesn't have to propagandize anything
LOL. Latest news: even wh is fabricating news with fox.

>all we have to do is read what North Korea is officially saying, like:
You speak Korean, or did you got your information from your media?

Your cheeto hitler needs a war.
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>>135777717
Wait? WAIT? And you fucking wonder why your Children are being raped en masse by subhumans, you pathetic fucking excuse of a Britain. What happened to your ferocity, what happened to your attitude? Why are you all so fucked?
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>>135779414
you just had to reply with more dumb shit, didn't you?
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>>135779636
I'm not saying the US doesn't use propaganda, every country does. Your challenge to me is that the DPRK's official statements have been mistranslated? Hahaha ok.
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>>135775451
Hey limey, you appear to believe the USA has never done deplorable things in its own self interest before....Here, I'll give you a tip: we don't give a fuck what damage we do to others....it is survival of the fittest.....MAGA
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>>135780290
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>>135775451
You want trade deals with US after brexit?
Your country will be first to send troops to NK to clean radioactive dust,
Poland ("""greatest ally""") will follow.

Reading book will not prevent wars you inbred.
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>>135779315
>DPRK will impode well within the next 30 years.
And we base this assumption off of what? Feeling?

We fly sniffer planes over norktown every time they launch a 'missile'. We do this to see if the 'missile' is carrying nuclear material. If it isn't, we fucking release some stupid shit about how we will respond with force, and the less starcraft-inclined koreans let their statist shit fly as well, but nothing ultimately happens. The leaders' dicks seem big, and all the limey faggots scream at how close the USA was to killing everyone, disregarding their own shitshow at home involving a girl getting raped, running away, flagging down help, and getting raped by them, too.

But, on the off chance they arm a 'missile' with fissionable material, the USA stays on alert. We let them attack first, SK is gone and with it half of the top MOBA, RTS, and RPG gamers on the planet. Japan might even catch shit off the storm, not to mention how China, in their irascible faggotry, might respond if we twiddle our fingers as SK gets raped to death, regardless of our involvement. Shit, China may make a go at Taiwan. But you probably think Taiwan belongs to the communist chinese, and we shouldn't poke the dragon because its all gonna just conveniently go away like that faggot who annexed Poland.
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>>135777627
You mean ethno-nationalist china? I'd rather side with "currency manipulators," than a bunch of usupatous kikes who want to end the white race.
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>>135779984
>the blind leading the crippled
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>>135778144
You're actually a fucking moron. "Nazi-Tier." Gas yourself, Jew puppet.
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War with north korea is just a big game of capture the flag.

the flag being good old kim.
Nab kim and the populace will lose all purpose to fight.
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>>135775451
Why does everyone think its going to be big? They cant even feed their army and use plastic weapons. It will just be gulf 2.0, over in less than 100 days
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>>135775451
Why should we care?
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>>135775451
No it won't. It'll be on kikes who want a central bank. They're used to blood being on them and their children though so it's not exactly something new.
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>>135779966
>What happened to your ferocity, what happened to your attitude? Why are you all so fucked?

>hehe im so brave for saying lets just casually BTFO north korea online, you're a pussy if you try and think about the issue intelligently xD

off yourself
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>blood on Trump's hands

You're the mouth breathers wailing for war with Russia over bullshit.
I hope you stupid cunts get drafted in to a fucking meat grinder.
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>>135775451
Millennials need to be bled, the herd needs to be thinned. They need their clock cleaned all at once

I'm talking about our boys, south koreans are wannabe western degenerates also. It's a shame those tough norks will be rooted out of their nest but it is what it is.. I don't really care, I hold them to a higher esteem than both their opponents but I won't lose a days sleep over them
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>>135775451
>comparing jungle guerilla warfare with a regular war against one of biggest regular military forces.
>apparently doesn't know there was a Korean war 1.0 so if anything, this would be Korea 2.0

also, looking at it from time's perspective, we could say that Korea 1.0 was somewhat successful, as South Korea still exists.
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>>135781441
>Tough norks.
They're starving manlets.
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>>135775451
We are PATIENT
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The Korean war never ended Bong, why don't you just sit and watch Achmed fuck your sister like you usually do
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>>135775451
>Dead north koreans
>Dead koreans in general
Can we give Japan a military for this? Killing gooks are their specialty
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>>135781441
>Millennials need to be bled, the herd needs to be thinned

You're literally sitting on 4chan making edgy shitposts, by your own logic you should be the first dropped on the beaches of NK.
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>>135781180
http://nationalpost.com/news/graphics/graphic-north-koreas-conventional-arms/wcm/b9e99804-e95d-4518-ae8a-8a1b8bf59e44
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>>135781646
They're tough as nails, thin as nails too
They aren't overgrown GMO/steroid fed obesities
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>>135781900
Yeah just like the iraq military under Saddam that folded instantly?
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>>135781900
Thin as nails with no energy.
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>>135775451
you say that like i should sweat more dogs and rice.
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>>135777881
says the faggot hippie
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>>135778728
You went from being a global empire to one of the least influential western countries in less than a decade.
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>>135775451
Good. Now, let's overachieve and drop a couple MIRVs on Beijing.
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>>135777483
This attitude is pure fucking end of empire tier delusion. You better hope you get a battle of the catalunian plains before the Huns kick your shit in. The US hasnt fought a dedicated conventional war in 60 years or more and might i add we LOST the Korean War.
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All the history books ive ever read said that: when someone is about to drop bombs on your shit, you better bomb their shit first or you're fucked m8
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>>135781819
I've done my time and it made me a better person. This place is just a soapbox, a place where I listen to public opinion
An uncensored opinion. I believe that this place is more diverse than reddit, which is exclusively made up of normie white people
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>>135776903
I hope you get raped by tanned Asians
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>>135782080
I suppose being a fat burger eating slob gives you unbeatable stamina and endurance
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>>135781532
There is no alternative, and if you think there is, you're just as delusional as you say I am.
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>>135782480
>might i add we LOST the Korean War.
You sure about that? The war started by Norks invading the south to make it a part of Kim's domain. The UN forces (consisting of mostly south koreans and americans, in that order) successfully prevented that. So technically, you won.

Also, the ones who defended the Norks from counterattack were the Chinese, as over 80% of northern forces consisted of chinks. Are you convinced that chinese would defend norks like they did back then?
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>>135783099
>being a fast nigger means north koreans are not starving manlets.
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>>135784036
>being fat means you're in better shape
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>>135775451
Really? North Korea, how'd they get hold nukes? By fucking accident was it? Or did China play a part?! History books, written by who exactly?
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>>135784195
Technically you live longer
haveing more body fat if it came down to starvation.
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>>135775451
Total bait but I'm bored

>pick up history book

Ok, what one?
Would you recommend something about WWII? Maybe something with the narrative about how an unchecked and unquestionably dictator ruled his people with a totalitarian government and bullied his neighbors into conflict?
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>>135775451
The number seems abit low.

He didn't genocide the world? Blughamumphf btfo forever. How will he ever recover?
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>>135775451
There won't be a Korea 2.0.

America will have to learn to live with international humiliation.
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>>135775451
>You idiots need to pick up a fucking history book
Since time immemorial man has slaughtered man in a never ending cycle. Figuring out how to better kill each other has always been the backbone of technological innovation. This conflict may well be the one to catapult the robotistocracy into existence.

You don't want to be left in the gutter of man's advancement, do you anon?
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>>135775451
>Calls it Vietnam 2.0 instead of Korean War 1.0 because hostilities never ended only "temporary" ceasefire
Fucking stupid ahmed trying to teach patriots about their own American, which is by definition world, history
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>>135777717
>wait for northe korea to die like the ussr did

Wait... so it's possible for North Korea to become more broke and destitute than it is?
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>>135775451
north korea is a shithole and 90 percent of their vehicles are shitty cold war era soviet rust buckets that are augmented with somewhat modern stolen chinese tech. They can barely feed their own people how are they supposed to fight us?
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>>135775451
Vietnam was guerrilla warfare, which is not what we're good at.

Fighting NoKo will be conventional and we will therefore annihilate them.
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>>135776503
>implying China isn't getting disturbed by NoKo's recent idiocy
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>>135776971
>>135777592
>>135777613
Are you that Canadian guy or did you just save his posts?
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>>135784640
There's never been a centenarian who's lived their life overweight

Just the simple fact that they're able to eat less and be content is proof of how harder they are than you. They are Willing to endure hardships for their country and for their people as a whole.
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>>135784387
>rock was the music theme in Vietnam 1.0
what will be music in this war? justin bieber? mainstream today is completely shit
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>>135785829
Eat less and be content? How do you know what the average n korean thinks about eating less?
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>>135785236
is that allie sin?
>she will never do VR porn
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>>135785387
Living without electricity 24/7 and little modern amenities makes you a natural guerilla fighter, it's almost a byproduct.
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>>135786182
Have you seen them on tv? They'll take whatever is thrown their way and always show fierce undying fealty to the DPRK, regardless if they're hurting underneath. They're soldiers all of them

They attacked tanks with their bare hands during the height of the korean war ffs
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WAR NOW
ROLLL
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>>135775451
The Korean war never truly ended.
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>>135787865
Ur pretty good, had me going for a while.
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vietnam =/= north korea
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>>135777777
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>>135775582
>we'll handle the adult stuff
yeah like losing against a bunch of junglegooks covered in their own shit
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>>135775765
Why are all of you Jews so obsessed with pooping?

Kind of a weird neurosis even for a kike but I've noticed you all seem to have it.
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>>135778464
>Most advanced

And that's why they don't have electricity in all their country and have constant famines?
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>>135775451
>north korea routinely threatens to use nuclear weapons, chemical weapons and biological weapons on its neighbors
>launches ICBM tests and performs nuclear tests
>is close to having the ability to hit europe, asia and north america with ICBMs
>isn't all that far away from thermonuclear bomb manufacturing process
>every other nation on earth condemns all of it
>"I SAY OLD CHAP, BY ALLAH IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE TO ATTACK KINDLY OLD NORTH KOREA"

This is why you're going to be conquered by muslims within the next 10 years.
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>>135775451
hillary is 1000x worse and neutralizing north korea is arguably necessary because you know they're going to use those nukes either as a bargaining tool or to actually fuck some shit up
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>>135776451
>which is also a nuclear power will go according to plan
Hardly, but will be if everyone go full hippie
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>>135782573
Yeah but leftie fags dont learn from history, and when trump fires first to protect his people they will call him a warmonger
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>>135792842
North Korea doesn't deserve to be attacked. In fact, anyone with a mind would stand behind them if they did choose to attack. What exactly do you have to defend here in the states or anywhere in the west at this point?

The west continuing to survive in this Jewish state is probably the worst thing that could happen to it.
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Hey faggot, you honestly think us Americans give a flying shit about what happens to some chinks on the other side of the world?

You guys have no idea what it is like to be a burger, truly.

I'll continue on with my life - probably have a BBQ and drink some cold ones with my buds. We'll talk about niggers and chinks and how funny it would be if a nuked happened in any Korea. I'd then smoke a fat bowl of some great marijuana and settle down to some easy listening and white American pussy for the night. I'd sleep like a fucking baby.

I'm sure you'll still be on here bitching about dead zipperhead faggots.
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>>135793771
>In fact, anyone with a mind would stand behind them if they did choose to attack.
when they struck syria for no reason, accused assad of using chemical weapons and said they wanted to oust assad, the media shilled it hardcore and every libshit and neocon was in favor of it, even a lot of /pol/ was in favor of it
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>>135786146
Probably rap, or some shit like that.
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>>135775451
Just so long as I can get parts for my Hyundai.
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>>135775451
Why should I care about koreans, fucking kek. Your emotional argument is completely worthless
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>>135794853
Yeah because the bulk of /pol/ are liberals at heart. They've been brainwashed by progressiveness that they don't even fully support what they say on here. Most of it is just novelty, playing a game.

The Donald supporters on here especially, are pure cancer. They don't support what he says or stands for, more like they support him and the fact that he's disliked by the mainstream just how they're disliked by their peers.
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