Differences between protestants and Catholics

>>135758588
Marriage vows are a sacred oath you make before God.

You don't get to divorce and remarry just becuase your 7 wives are barren.

The biggest difference is that the Protestant Christian believes you can connect directly to God without the need of an intermediary priest. Additionally Catholic Christians venerate church figures in ways Protestants do not. There are no Saints in Protestant churches. There is also no church figurehead like the Catholic Pope. These are the biggest differences in my view.

>>135758588
Catholics>Protestants
Protestants are all going to hell

>>135758588
Protestants forsake the Saints and are complicit sinners. They feel no need to pray or beg for forgiveness -- they assume they are forgiven. They do not confess their sins. They do not believe the sacraments to be holy.

>>135758588
I'm inclined to say the people, just compare poles and Irish to English and Germans

>>135758880
St Milton warned Henry of his treachery and the outcome of rebelling against the church saying it would cause rebellion within rebellion (think of all the different Protestant sects). It is divulged so much that Episcopalians (American Anglican church) are essentially gone.

Protestants have literally become Jews and are pushing "nondenominational" politically correct bullshit. Church for them is a fucking hipster band on stage chanting Hallelujah.

Church is supposed to be solemn and respectful. Protestants have lost their way.

Papists aren't actually Christians, it's a cult where they follow a weirdo who likes kissing africans' feet.

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>>135758588
Catholics read a fake bible and have sex with children, also the pope worships lucifer

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>>135759703
Found the border hopping mexican, you have to go back

>>135758588
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther

>>135758588
>what is the difference between a catholic christian and a protestant christian
There is no difference, its the same shit.

>>135758588
Fuck you and your bait thread

>>135758588
Catholics worship a church, Protestants worship God.

Could we use protestants as an anti Jew movement?

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Catholics are THE church of God and salvation. Prods are a rag tag bag of heretics, dupes and sectarians.

>>135761141
Don't worry, I'm sure your (((Pope))) will sell me an indulgence on my deathbed so I can go to heaven without putting up with all of your shit.

>>135758588

The christian philosophy is one of complete submission to authority, especially Catholicism. unironcally, jews rule the world because the philosophy of their religion is one of action. Unlike christians who can just ask for forgiveness, jews are required to prove themselves absolved from sins, which manifest in a real strong work ethic. This is why they dominate in fields like academia, entertainment, law, ect. This is why AIPAC is the most powerful lobbying group in the US and why the president is forced to do what they want.

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The leader of the catholic church everyone kissing the feat of a person who probably worships another god. Why are catholics such cucks.

Protestants worship cummies and good feels.

>>135758880
the wording you use here is vague and meaningless. what do you mean by "connect with God"? such a terrible phrase.

Henry VIII was technically the creator of protestants so maybe he is the messiah Jews where looking for all this time.

>>135761730
>Henry VIII
>not Martin Luther

k bra

Wasn't henry VIII the one that popularized it.

>>135761893
No. Luther pretty much started a domino effect through Europe starting the reformation.

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>>135758588
checked

OK I'm an idiot I just like hating on catholics especially the pope.

Read a fucking book, this is not politics.

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>>135762222
THE POWER OF THIS POSTER

>christianity subverts original european cutlures/customs
>people fight over which sect of sematic religions is the right one
>meanwhile ignoring their original cultures/customs

good goyim

>>135762309
This is more political than half of the stuff posted on pol.

Protestant read the Bible, i don't know what catholics do

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>>135758588
When protestantism came to be? No, not really. It was mostly formed because of the personal beef of Henry. After that? It changed as any split religions would do, over centuries.

>>135758588
I know the English are generally pretty stupid but you can't be genuine here.

>>135759703
Episcopal is basically just cultural Christianity.

That's another thing--Catholic countries at least come down to practicing Christianity or atheism. Protestant countries just have everyone be some varying degree of apathetic.

>>135758588
Catholics developed a bunch of traditions and an organisational structure that isn't strictly part of Christianity. They also edited the bible early on to suit their particular doctrine during the early christian schisms.
Martin Luther said all that extra shit was unnecessary but didn't disagree on anything theological, no one told him about the bible editing.

>>135758588
Protestants enslave Catholics and buy land out from underneath them like Jews.

>>135762473
Well played sir.

>protestantism
has a schism over fashion
>catholicism
one true Church founded by Jesus Christ

>>135758588
Protestants are not real christians, as they rejected the chruch founded by Jesus Christ.

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>>135758588

The main difference is protestants are heretic faggots and Roman Catholicism is the only true faith.

>>135763092
Martin Luther sperged out because certain books were written in Greek instead of Hebrew. One of these books implied the existence of purgatory, but since it got thrown out that's the reason a lot of Protestants seem to have more of a stick up their ass about predestination and the elect and shit.

>>135762473

They think that eating some bread and drinking some wine will make them immortal

>>135762222
The Pope must be destroyed. Kek wills it.

Catholics need to shut the fuck up about being the original church, they're not. There are older churches in the holy land and there's the eastern orthodox church which is equally as old as Catholicism.

>>135758588
lots of differences and things have changed a lot in 400 years
fellow amerifriends above me answered most of the things
remember, the catholic church reformed too not so long ago

>>135763398
Church was not founded by Jesus christ, it was founded at the earliest by his followers (as less organized), and at the latest in the 300s as the state religion of Rome.

>>135758588
>catholic
>christian
pick one, and many protestant arent christian anymore too.

>>135763649
I haven't read the bible but didn't Peter get instructed by either jesus or god to build a Church

>>135763616
dont be salty just because you're a meme denomination

Also, the catholic church historically has been crazy corrupt and war mongering. This alone proves that they arent the One True Church™

>>135762680

protestant always existed but the catholics murdered them , until the best weapon became available ;the word of god

>>135763712
Jesus was making a pun on Peters name. Peter (stone) is the rock (lol) upon which Ill build my church

He meant his universal church headed by the Holy Spirit, that all true christians belong to regardless of denomination

>>135763616
Peter is the bishop of Rome and prince of the apostles, Chief steward of the kingdom.

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lurking as the token atheist

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>>135763752

> war mongering = not one and true

This is exactly what would make one think it is the one true faith.

>>135763712
I recall so, yes, but using bible as a historical document is stupid due to it being an edited volume.

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>>135763919
Christians killing other Christians is what Jesus wanted? Sureeeeeee

>>135763931
but dont the protestants say you only need bible for salvation?

>>135758588
Well to start, there isnt just protestants. Protestants are split quite a few ways, Lutherans, Presbyterian, Baptists etc. Unlike what the thread implies, some sects of protestants are the proliferators of "hippie jesus" (looking at you methodists). Some promote the insane interpretations by illiterate uneducated yokels (jesus rode dinosaurs into battle with the gays). But if you ask 75% of protestants theyll tell you Lutherans are just lazy catholics.

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>>135763883
>Making a pun

WEW
LAD


How's it feel to be a retarded faggot

>>135763752
>>135763919
All/most abrahamic faiths/religions have been war mongerings at some points in their timespan.

Why are you all squabbling again children?
Science and human history has conclusively proven that Anglicans are smarter than Jews, Jews are smarter than Atheists, and the rest of you are fucking idiots who work in factories and mow lawns or whatever.
See you at the Lodge, Karenposters.

>>135763883
But that universal church has to be somewhere, right?
Before the council of nicea there was pretty much a "universal church"

>>135763752
Because Protestants looting churches and executing priests was fine, right
The roman church has progressively become corrupt between 1300 and 1700 but that's it, that's not "historically crazy corrupt", and protestants were no care bears.

>>135764026
Religions in general will say that you will need something that you need something for salvation, as long as we provide it / what it contains / is. (Like, the way I recall, catholics consider salvation to be throught jesus)

>>135764032
Episcopalians are lazy Catholics

>>135764008
That's sure what the Anglicans did in Ireland.

>>135763904
I'm an atheist too but the split of the catholic church is really interesting

>>135763894
Why the fuck would he go all the way to the capital of the people who murdered jesus to found his church? Why are there older churches in the middle east?

>>135764160
See

>>135764054


You are arguing with a retarded prottie. I mean they are all retarded being heretics.

Also note

They say the church has sinners thus it isn't the church that's their argument.

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You're mixing things up OP.

(Mainline) Protestantism comes into world wide acceptance via Luther and the Reformation.

Anglicanism (the middle road between Catholics and Protestants) is allowed to exist because of Henry and fully formed by Elizabeth I.

Orthodox / Catholic split much earlier.

So if you want to learn more about protestants read Luther, Zwingli, Calvin and other books on the reformation. If you want to learn more about Anglicanism read about Archbishop Cranmer, Elizabeth 1, the English Reformation and so on.

>>135764200
I thought it was the other way around? Catholics required you to do good works, charity, and confess your sins, attend the mass, while part of the protestants claimed that sins had been forgiven by jesus and that's it.

>>135764054

Funny thing is we all follow paul we dont even follow peter , (((peter))) got rebuked by paul because of him being a jew

>>135764260
if you wanted your religion to be the best, wouldn't you bring it to the city who was the center of the world at that time?
There are older churches because christianity was here before. Older is not better. There are important holy places in the middle east too (patriarchates)

>>135758588
Catholics belong to the Church of Christ. Protestants are heretics.

>>135764260
Older churches don't matter, All churches were united in the epsicopacy and under the Vicar of Jesus Christ in Peter. If you walk from Judea to Italia you will likely stop in places before hand, that doesn't change the authority is vested in Peter not in the dirt. If rome was vaporized he'd still be the bishop of rome

Why would Peter go to the heart of the worldwide empire, to plant his cross right in the heart of the pagans? Is that what you are asking, why Peter accepted martyrdom to wage war upon the evil one?

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>>135764008

We didn't address the problem of heretics for some time already, because muh yuman rrrights. Look how it ended. We need to go back.

>>135758588
The main difference is that Protestants believe you need to believe only in God to go to heavan. Catholics on other hand you also need to life according to the 10 commandmands. Believing in a God is not enough.

>>135764202
Episcopalians have some gripes with the catholic church. Lutherans believe in faith and faith alone as opposed to faith AND works. Thats the joke. Theres also not petitioning the saints but thats relatively minor in comparison. Unsolicited opinions on baptists:

>Whats the difference between a baptist and a methodist?
>Methodist will talk to you when you run into each other at the liquor store

>Always bring two baptists with you when you go fishing
>If you only bring one, he will drink all of your beer

>>135764340
How does not really matter. The point is that they
(the chruch) always provide you with the means as long as they are the ones in power.

>>135764390
So, Christ rebuked Peter as well. John and Simon bickered and dickered with each other.

>>135764340

All that good works shit is gone. Catholicism is basically Protestantism with a pope, transubstantiation and a few extra sacraments.

Their catechism and sacred tradition has to be backed by scripture now and 95% of it is loosely tied to something scriptural. It's still an abomination of a church, but many of Luther's complaints against them have been remedied.

>>135763752

That's literally every church

This is very simplified:

The Roman Catholic Church is a hierarchical organization center on the Bishop of Rome (Pope). Its sources of authority are the Bible and tradition, interpreted or elaborated upon by the magisterium (hierarchy). It maintains some old-fashioned "magical" traditions, though they are couched in medieval philosophical terms. These traditions, called sacraments, cause ontological changes in the subject (bread into Body of Christ, layperson into clergy, etc.). It is the role of priests to perform the sacraments, especially the mass, which is a sacrifice presented to God. Catholics trace their leaders (bishops) back to the Apostles.

Protestants are generally defined as the churches descending from the Reformation, a movement in early modern Christianity that focused on the importance of faith and individual conversion over the authority of the hierarchy and the efficacy of sacraments. The Bible is the sole source of authority, but some churches have confessions or statements of faith that describe how they interpret the Bible. It is more individualistic (this is relative), and clergy are more like teachers and administrators than sacrificial priests. Some Protestants do have sacraments, but some call them ordinances and deny they effect any ontological change. Most Protestants aren't very concerned about hierarchy or tracing their leaders back to the apostles, but some are.

Your reference to Henry indicates you are thinking about the Church of England, which is Protestant and Catholic in more-or-less equal measure. Anglican theology owes practically nothing to Henry, who was really only responsible for a brief interruption of the communion between the CofE and Rome, and they don't really talk about him much or consider him an important figure. Cranmer, Elizabeth, and the Oxford Movement were much more important.

>>135764573
>Muh belief

What is belief if it does not reform the life, saying you believe and living like a hog in shit is not faith.

>be catholic
>pray to beings other than God
>pray to saints that were literally pagan gods

Also, Protestantism is a joke. Most of their priests are closed atheists and the protestants even engage in degeneracy like shiling for LGTBism.

>>135764660
Yeah, I wrote "required" because I'm discussing the historical aspect of the thing. Vatican 2 is much different.

>>135758588


Catholics are pagans, protestants are good goys

The argument is overall Paul and Peter.
Protestants believe Paul was chosen to lead the church because Peter was a coward and said he didn't know Jesus. Catholics still believe Peter to be the rock or foundation that the church would be built. It's not that hard to understand the argument. It pretty much the same as Sunni vs Shi'a argument.

>>135764743
>be reformed
>eat babies but it's ok because I'll go to heaven if I'm chosen, and I won't if I'm not chosen, so I might as well eat babies

>>135764743
>Be Catholic
>Ask for those who have made it to the glory of God to pray for us as Moses prayed for his people.
>Weep that protties burn in hell.

>>135764836
Except it's not Peter or Paul, it's Peter and Paul the Jews and the Gentiles.

>>135764573

>Catholics on other hand you also need to life according to the 10 commandmands.

Protestants believe this as well, the 10 commandments are scriptural. The difficulty protestants have with Catholics is that they say that a person need to adhere to all (((seven sacraments))) to enrich their chances of getting to heaven. A protestant would say that communion does nothing to get you closer to God and all the fake rituals of Catholicism won't say you on judgement day.

>>135764836

That's totally wrong. Luther and the reformed movement still loved and respected Peter. They just see peter as the first christian. I don't know of any reformer who argued that Paul was the first christian or the true leader of the church lol

>>135764732
Living according to Gods law=true evidence of personal faith.

By stupid Prods you can be a murders, rapists and pedophile. It does not matter as long you nominally believe in a God.

>>135764640

jesus and paul whole a lot of difference, but the fact stays paul is the first pope for the christians not (((peter)))


Paul Confronts Peter

>11But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. 12For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision. 13And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation. 14But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

>>135764839

That's not have predestination works. If you eat babies and commit sin, you have rejected gods grace and will go to hell.

>>135764945

It's fine to pray for dead and to have saints, but Jesus is the only person who can intercede. Many papists don't understand this.

>>135764945

>be catholic
>be polytheist

>>135758588
That's a pretty grand Pepe VIII you have there

>>135764947
> (((seven sacraments))) to enrich their chances of getting to heaven.
The sacrament of confession is not a fake and has a purpose.

The Church is aware that is is impossible for a human to not have a sin. So, confession is needed to get a forgiveness from God and start a new champter.

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>>135758588
Catholics have a bunch of ceremonies and official church stuff. Protestants are like do whatever you want. All the different denominations are just a vie for power over the congregation really though, you gotta be different so you're the guy in charge of your new sect. Religion is bluepilled.

>>135765286

>The Church is aware that is is impossible for a human to not have a sin.

Mainline protestants believe this as well.

>The sacrament of confession is not a fake and has a purpose.

I know, I'm a High Anglican and we have confession. In fact, we confess our sins at every single mass and can do private confession with a priest. It is a good thing to do and helps the spirit. However, we don't pretend that it has any power over our salvation.

>>135765286
Everywhere that the number (7) appears it's God and Man united

Everwhere that the number (6) appears it's Man living as a beast

Protties attack the most precious body and blood first

>>135765169
>Paul reminds peter to do his job
>Invalidating him

>>135765188
So if you are going before the king, whom should you bring with you. A small number of farmers or the great glory of the kingdom

Go to churches in southern America and country towns ( church of Christ, independent baptists, and many non-denominational) and i promise u will here in thousands of them mad trash talk of Catholics and Paul is the true G. It was the combination of these types of churches and (spiritual baptism/ pray Jesus in ur heart) churches that there is even Christianity alive in USA now for the most part, but both are newer doctrines

>>135765575

You bring yourself. "Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked I will depart." When you are judged it will be you alone.

>>135758588
All jews and muslims worship Satan. Some Catholics, usually powerful ones like the current Pope, worship Satan with the rest of them deceived into a blasphemous form of worship, but still saved.

Protestantism is the true way to worship Christ.

>>135765575
>14But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel,

Paul already have said it.

It was paul who teached us that circumcision means nothing , it was paul who literally teached us everything through the bible , how can peter be the first pope ? no he was the (((pope)))

>>135763883
Peter's real name was Simon. Jesus bestowed the name Petros on him, as he would be the rock (foundation) of Christ's church.

>>135765835
>Jews find their comerades had pagan idols on them and were cut down in the battle
>Still pay to have prayers said for them and sacrifices offered.

Hmmm what did the holy spirit mean by this.

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>>135764839
See
>>135764732
He has a very good point.

Personally I'm trying to choose in which denomination I should be Baptized and attend mass... It's quite hard to choose when looking at those threads, I try to find neutral informations about all denominations but I'm quite lost .

Catholicism seems good but I read they kept pagans practices. Vatican 2 is terrible and current pope seems less christian than an atheist.

In other hand, Protestantism removed some texts of the Bible, certain are tolerating degeneracy

I don't know much about Orthodoxy..

It's a big mess

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>>135760134
^this precisely

>>135766068
Find a church with traditional Latin mass.

>>135765941
Wrong

It was the Ecumenical councils which decided to what degree that the law applied to the gentiles.

Peter is the pope because he was chosen to be the vicar by Jesus Christ. Would you deny Christ's own authority in choosing his vicar.

I'll remind you that the apostolic mission to convert the gentiles was not started by Paul, Peter was the first to go and baptize the gentiles and see the spirit come upon them.

Cornelius the Centurion was baptized by peter.

The vicar of Christ had to lead the way for the church, not Paul for Paul at the time was murdering Christians and being a jew and not even doing what peter had already done.

>>135766068
>Protestantism removed some texts of the Bible

Best steer clear of Catholicism then.

>>135766068
>In other hand, Protestantism removed some texts of the Bible, certain are tolerating degeneracy


So did the catholics , the prots just removed the scripture the catholics added

>>135766068

High Anglicanism. All the good parts of the Catholic church without the pope and toxic theology like transubstantiation. We have consubstantiation which Luther was fine with.

>>135766000

Is English your first language mate? I don't understand what it is you're trying to convey. Try again and I'll respond but that has nothing to do with my point.

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>>135766068
reddit.com/r/catholicism

Go to seek your brothers here.

They have not kept pagan practices, also Francis is as Christian as Benedict 16th. He is radically charitable and he makes you uncomfortable but he is still the Vicar of Jesus Christ.

The pope good or bad is chosen by the holy spirit to shepard his people, no pope even the worst has changed one iota of the faith.

It's not a mess, all people must stream to the cross. The orthodox cut themselves off from unity and the Protestants cut away Christ from the cross.

>>135766338

There is literally nothing in the bible , peter being the pope would be a mention by paul , but yet we have bishop who leads 1 church and deacons , nothing about a pope

Qualifications for Overseers

>1This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

Qualifications for Deacons

(Acts 6:1-7)

>8Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; 9Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. 10And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. 11Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. 12Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. 13For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

>>135766448
Oh surpsiing.

You cut away those books even though Christ preached about them.

like any good Catholic I stopped going to church, god keeps out of my shit and I keep out of his

>>135766905
>>135766955

>reddit.com/r/catholicism

So THIS is the power of the Catholicism. Wow!

>>135766908
>HE DOESNT USE THE WORD POPE SO ITS NOT REAL

That's the lamest objection

Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Patriarch of the West, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God.

Pope doesn't appear among the formal titles of the pope yet he remains the pope. The title pope was similarly came in from the east and was fitting to describe the Roman Bishop.

>>135764061
spotted the fedora

>>135767014
>Stopped going to church
>Implying that will spare you from the judgment.

That's an even dumber heresy.

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>>135758588
Alll I know is that here in canada the algo protestants accepted degeneracy and diversity wheras the Catholic quebecers are still living in a nationalistic white paradise

>>135767201
>>135767285

This democrat cuck is neurosis in human form

>>135767345

Yeah, the Anglican church in Canada is pretty cucked desu. CofE, Northn American Anglicans and the African Episcopate is still pretty based though.

Protestants didn't remove any texts from the Bible. It's just a matter of how you define the Bible. If you define the Old Testament as the Jewish scriptures written before the 4th century and accepted in Judea, you have the Protestant OT. It's true that the NT contains some allusions to the deuterocanonical books, but they also contain allusions to the pseudoepigrapha and a few pagan Greek writers.

If you define the OT as the scriptures used by Alexandrian Jews and written any time up to the 1st century, you have the Catholic/Orthodox OT (the Orthodox have more books). The Greek was the basis for early Latin translations. When St. Jerome was revising the Latin, he wanted to use the Hebrew canon, but the Pope made him use the Greek canon. That was the basis for the Roman Catholic Bible, except at some point they removed the Epistle to the Laodiceans.

Early canon lists were even more restrictive than the Protestant canon, so it's not like Martin Luther was doing something new or radical when he said, "Hey, maybe we shouldn't use these as a basis for doctrine." He was just reviving an old debate because he couldn't accept the decision by fiat that had put an end it in the West. (The Easterns and Ethiopians never agreed with the Roman canon.)

The difference is catholics keep their liquor on the counter and protestants keep it hidden in the cabinet.

>>135767738

Except for the fact that mainline protestants use real wine for communion just like Catholics.

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But protestants have a second messiah

>>135767201
>>HE DOESNT USE THE WORD POPE SO ITS NOT REAL

if its not in the bible its not real , its major doctrine but there is not word about it ?

do you know what paul does say

>1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

> 3Forbidding to marry,

and that is exactly what your pope does , stop fooling your self with the doctrine of devils

The catholic Pope is a SJW shit skin Muslim loving fag who is in all honestly acting like a Jew, subverting European culture and denouncing white peoples all over the earth. Fuck the pope he's an asshole.

>>135767672
No they removed the scriptures.

Christ preached from the septuigent, the translation of the scriptures of the old testement by the 70 greatest and wisest elders of Israel.

The 70 elders from the temple to write transcribe the faith.

Early cannon doesn't matter, what matters is the ecumenical councils to whom the canon was made official and sealed against changes. The councils are not fiat

Ethiopians and Africans divided themselves form the body of Jesus Christ.

Using a non-scriptural works in the church is accepted if it's not at the service. You can read the letters from St.Xavier on his missionary work, you can read St.Clements letter to corinth but not in the gospels readings

>>135759957

Who Compiled the bible?

protestants go to hell.

okokokok...so (((london))) is owned by muzzzzies and germany loves arab cock...okokokokok

protestants also give us hell on earth.


the only people pro-protestant are fucking beta male evangicucks cucks in the usa or pure godless northern euros in europe...

deus vult you fucking neophyte faggots. stand up ride with me or you die.

>>135768078

Luther did

>>135767860
Except that protestants don't have communion because they are unlcean animals digging in the dirt who cut themselves off from the vine.

>>135767959
>Sola Scriptura

ISHyGDDT

The Catholic church doesn't forbid Married priests there are many married priests but Latin priests give up everything for their flocks.

>>135762957
>I know the English are generally pretty stupid
No, we're not. That would be Americans.

>>135758588
Even after the split from the Catholic Church Henry VIII was still a Catholic in all but name, he cried like a bitch when Wolsey died, Henry's legal team and treasury workers told him he could save money by leaving the Catholic Church and get prime Spanish, French and English PUSSAY without the sin of divorce (which was illegal and it's why he had some of his fuck friends put on the chopping block).

Make no mistake, it was a Jew that was pulling Henry's strings.

Watch a program called Wolf Hall, it's pretty accurate and a good portrayal of Henry VIII before and during the split from Rome.

Oh and Catholics are pretty much cucks.

>Needing some dementia ridden, bed wetting drag queen to commune with God on your behalf.

Get fucked, fucking false idol, false prophet, false everything. Catholics are the biggest good goys going. Idiots deserve to be raped and robbed.

>>135768183
LOL.

>>135768078
King James the time traveling sodomite.

>>135758588
Is using Wikipedia really that difficult

>>135768166
And your Cuckthlic bullshit queen (the Pope, piss and shit be upon her) is ordering everyone in Europe to take in more rape and niggers. And even licks their feet clean.

Fuck off.

>>135768262

No he really did he removed the corrupt books and made the bible we read today

One is a desert cult and if you fuck children, you get caught and jailed
The other is a desert cult, but if you fuck children the pope will just move you elsewhere to rape children.

Fuck I love religion. Don't you fellow white people?

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>>135758880
>without the need of an intermediary priest.
Matthew 6:6
>No saints
Protestants still recognize saints, e.g. aquinas
>No figurehead
Jesus is the figure head instead of some pedophile niggerlover
>>135765286
>confession is not a fake and has a purpose
Purpose being control
>>135766364
>Protestantism removed some texts
Catholics already removed certain New Testament texts mostly because confliction with (((Moses))) ...certain protestant churches have revitalized lost texts

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cromwell

Miss me yet?

>>135766113
if you think some drunk german priest spergtard writing about how jews are bad, well...


i'll refer you to the 1500 years of prior church teachings on jews and lol at your allusion that (((luther))) was worth a damn...

you protestants are so fucking pathetic lol.
>b-b-b-but we wrote a book about jews in 1600!!!

get the fuck out of here go suck arab cock german cuck

What we need to do is destroy Islam so we can kill each other over this shit again

>>135768376
>Remove scriptures of which Christ preached

>Good

>>135768302
Better to have faithful blacks than athesitic whites. The secularlists must suffer until they repent.

>>135768376

Just. No. It was compiled in the 4-5th century. Latin Vulgate.

>>135768481
(((thomas cromwell))) was the (((jewish bankers))) in (((london's))) greatest and dumbest goy asset

nobody kills white people for jews like those (((anglos)))!!!

>>135768514
The faithful blacks that will say five hail marys and be absolved of their crimes of raping and eating whites?

Fuck off, I keep God in my heart, not direct debits to the Catholic Church you fucking cuck slut.

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This thread is now under the patronage of Saint Thomas More, the last good Englishman.

God bless.

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>>135768614
You're confusing Thomas Cromwell with Oliver Cromwell. Distant relatives but it was Oliver that undid the Edict of Expulsion, not Thomas.

So your (((good goy))) isn't applicable here. To the trash can with you!

>>135768623
If they repent then let them be forgiven.

Let all heretics and apostates be hammered under the crusade though.

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>>135758792

He didn't get a divorce it was an annulment which was his right because the marriage was illegitimate. The pope only denied it to him because Rome was literally being held hostage by the HRE Habsburgs, the Emperor was closely related to Henry's wife.

>>135768719
>If they repent then let them be forgiven.
Except Catholics are never truly sorry for the crimes they commit.

They are not crushed by their own guilt, they are not repentant they are not sorry. If you were sorry you'd kill yourselves and do us all a fucking favour.

>>135768675
That's one more than the French has ever or will ever have. Cuck.

>>135768230
https://www.catholic.com/qa/why-cant-a-priest-ever-marry


wtf are you talking about even your site catholic.com confirms

http://time.com/4698125/pope-francis-married-priests-history/

>Pope Francis Might Consider Ordaining Married Priests. Here's Why That’s Not Already a Thing
Olivia B. Waxman
Mar 10, 2017

>Despite the Catholic Church's longstanding prohibition on married men becoming priests, Pope Francis said he might consider making exceptions to ordain married men who are already heavily involved in the Roman Catholic Church in certain circumstances. The idea would be that they could work in rural areas that suffer from a shortage of clergy, according to his interview with the German newspaper Die Zeit published Thursday.

Stop judging other Christians ! We shouldn't arguing like that, only Christ is the way to God ! We can't decide who his a heretic and who is not, God can and will do. Just stick to Christ and continue living and strive to become a better person and Christian day after day. It is wiser, and better for the future of Christianity

>>135768230

>Except that protestants don't have communion because they are unlcean animals digging in the dirt who cut themselves off from the vine.

Haha, god I love papists. God bless you m8 and perhaps you might one day find that attacking your fellow protestant brothers is a waste of time.

>>135768857
Archive

>http://time com/4698125/pope-francis-married-priests-history
https://archive.is/qAkQF

>>135758880

Well done, sir. I concur.

>>135768675
>The Anglican Church now recognize Thomas More and John Fisher as saints
>Anglican Church officially recognizes itself as a fake religion
Hmn...

>>135768892
Catholics would rather eat nigger toe cheese than show respect to their superior Protestant masters.

>>135768866
English are worshipping their apostate monarchs. They're not christians.

>>135768763
>Get dispensation because you want to marry your brothers widow whom you claim is a virgin and consummate your marriage blessed and made specifically legitimate.

>Cry it's illegitimate because you wanted an heir and instead of trusting in God you fall into the sins of lust and schism

> Murder and massacre the priests of God and slaughter the faithful who refuse to bow and who in good council warn you against the schism and sleeping with other women besides your wife.

>>135768707
fug...well it still applies...and all (((cromwells))) are in the garbage bin of hell currently...

let's talk about thomas becket and his thoughts on current england!!!!!

>>135761785

the Anglican church accounts for 90% of protestant denominations origins. Lutherans and their branchs cover the rest.

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>>135769005
And you worship Islam and Macron (the boggly eye'd Rothskike freak).

So not everyone is perfect are they?

>>135769030
No, the Cromwell's are actually fine, a bit religiously insane with the whole Puritanism but other than that? They did a lot of good and shook up the monarch and Catholics.

>>135759703

lmfao, and catholicism hasn't become politically correct? fuck off retard

>>135768961

This is why I'm starting to believe that Catholicism is a mental illness. But hey, they're still Christian and come and join us at the Lord's table any Sunday.

>>135768857
" Roman Catholic Church"

Francis is the chief Latin Rite Bishop but he is the bishop of all the Catholic churches

The Melkites and Maronites, Syro-Malabar and Syriac all have married Catholic Priests you know nothing and lecture.

http://www.newsweek.com/pope-francis-married-catholic-priests-571764

https://cruxnow.com/church/2014/08/05/im-a-catholic-priest-and-im-married/


>>135768866
We can, salvation is literally the most important thing in life and it must be worked out in fear and in trembeling there isn't a huge sluice to fall through it's a narrow door.

>>135768892
>plays with grape juice

>communion

>>135769142
are you a british jew by chance? perhaps a british jew banker with a deep seated hatred of catholics?

you must love muslim cock and pussy though, if and actual anglo. totally better than your fellow white men. right brit jew?

>>135768866

is* wth I'm tired..

>>135761141

>rag tag bag of heretics

sounds like Jesus and his apostles :^)

>>135768961
>Calling yourself a master

There is the difference. The Catholic sees himself as a servant while the protestant knocks Jesus from the Cross and proclaims it's his right to be in charge.

>>135758588
Catholics are the black nobility's sheeples
Judaism + Catholicism + Islam = the black nobility's way of mass control before political parties and nowadays social media

>>135769028

I'm not claiming that Henry diddnuffin and the reason for the annulment was obviously just an excuse but it was still a legitimate reason.

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>>135769225
>They are still Christian
You're funny you are. They are satanists that worship a false prophet. Devil worshipers that need to be burned alive. We need an inquisition, we need all Catholics and Muslims burned alive!

>>135769353
No I'm no Jew, I have a juicy foreskin and I'm playing with it now, using Catholic tears to lube it up good. Wanna do your Catholic duty and clean my dick cheese for me like a good sub bitch?

>>135769411
The Catholic is a servant of dick, they are professional dick cleaners.

Like blacks.

>>135769225
tell me your thoughts on worshiping a snake in a backwoods wood shack? what did that s-s-s-nek say? leleelelel. is that a mental illness or b-b-b-b-based protestantism?

>>135758588
The difference is more racial than cultural. Protestants living in Northern Europe are white and catholics are something else.

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Catholics should be put to death, in all actuality.

So approximately 32,000,000 people in the UK are protestants.

>>135769588
tell me your thoughts on the pope encouraging the death of Christianity as a whole by forcing nations to take in Islam.

Malachi prophecy is coming to fruition, your pope is a demon and even YOU cannot deny this.

>>135769310

yes now ,but it had been forbidden for a real long time i even gave a link where the pope wanted to abolish it , i am done with you papist have fun burning in hell

>>135769588

Well, if you had bothered to check my other posts you would see I'm a high anglican. So we have mass in cathedrals and Gothic churches, have wine at Communion and never speak in tongues / handle snakes.

I'll pray for you m8.

Catholicism reduces Christianity to craven idolatry.

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Catholicism is based on the belief that there can only be one church on earth, and they believe that the first pope was the apostle Peter. My wife was Catholic, so I have had many conversations with Priests who tried to get me to convert.

Protestant religions began approximately around the creation of the printing press, and the return of literacy to Europe. Because few people could read the Bible, and in many cases, Catholics forbade reading the Bible, the Catholic church created all manner of rules to extort money from the populace (which they used partially to fight Islam's incursions). When Europeans eventually read the Bible and compared Catholicism to Jesus's teachings, they weren't happy. Enter Martin Luther.

Differences Rundown:

1. Catholics believe that you can only be forgiven for sings if you request forgiveness through the Catholic church. Protestants just ask God directly. There was a time when Catholics taught that the payment of money would absolve sins.

2. Catholics created a new stratum of heaven called "purgatory." You were sent here to be cleansed of sin. However, a simple *large* payment to the Church would release you from purgatory. When protestants/literates pointed out that the Bible doesn't mention purgatory, they were deemed heretics.

3. Catholics worship and pray to dead humans that they consider holy. For example, Mary (the mother of Jesus) is considered holy and worthy of worship. To protestants and other literates, she is just another dead human - however nice and devout she may have been.

3. Catholics created 'fanfiction' about Jesus and Mary and required their followers to consider it Christianity. One of my favorites is to point out to Catholics that Jesus had a brother, James. Catholics were told that Mary was a virgin and *remained* a virgin, yet the bible quite clearly states that she had another child named James - who at first didn't believe in Jesus, and then did.
.... (I've overposted)

Why the fuck does any of this matter?
This is all literally
>what does he do with muhh grape juice

>>135769960
nvm, i finally see.

>>135758588
At first I read that as 'prostitutes and catholics'.

>>135769936
God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands

False temples like the Vatican't.

>>135758588
>People falling for this bait

Enjoy OP, you deserve it!

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>>135769203
I wouldn't say PC. Catholicism has been hijacked by Jesuits and this 5th column pedophiles. God knows this too and will separate the good from the bad

>>135765473
>I know, I'm a High Anglican and we have confession.(...)...pretend that it has any power over our salvation.
Why do you think you culturally appropriated this from the Catholic Church?

>>135762957
I believe it's genuine to take what Milton said seriously.

>>135769442
The reason he was requesting one was a valid reason except in his case when a dispensation was granted for it's validity.

>>135760057
>white supremacist
>degrades Catholic for spitting on Protestants

Good try shill. I will pray for your soul.

Only Protestants could have created and grown America. Local self-rule via democracy, town halls, were a prime Protestant innovation. Catholics are/were too collectivist to make the US. When they came to the US they listened to the pope who told them to bred and swamp local democracy, which they did. Potato nigs were the ur gibs of America. A potato-catholic has never seen a gubbermint job he didn't vote for himself or his cousins.

>100 years later

But now, we are cool. Especially considering the alternatives.

>>135762957
Episcopalians are/were American Anglicans. Cultural Christianity is what you see in these mega-nondenominational churches. It's just a lazy interpretation of the Bible. Almost as bad as Mohammad's interpretation when he wrote the Quran.

How many Catholic countries are there?

>>135763092
You mean, like the Christian calendar? The one that every Catholic church around the world follows. Oh and the rest of the world follows.

Martin Luther was mental, but was the result of years of priesthood abuse. He witnessed degeneracy on a new level and everyone in charge was part of the problem.

Don't misinterpret what he was doing. It wasn't Catholicism that wasn't being challenged here. It was corrupt men that he was challenging. Very different. Dumb Protestants extended that unto Catholicism itself, which was incorrect.

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>>135758588
Catholicism esteems human tradition & culture over that of the ways of God, its basis is rooted upon human decrees, they are unable to argue from the Bible, instead it has to rely on Vatican-sanctioned histories, they use idols, pray through false intercessors like Saints & Mary, even though Jesus alone is the way to the Father, they instituted pagan festivals & holidays, and even presumptuously assume the power to remit sin. In their Catechism they tampered with God's Law -- removed the 2nd commandment, altered the 4th, and split the 10th to preserve the # (fulfilling Daniel 7). The history of Catholicism has been one of Satanic abuse employing political & martial power to exert their will. The only Biblical argument they use for Popery is "Peter is the rock of the church" yet that isn't a justification for Papal hierarchical arrangement whatsoever -- read the books written by Peter, he never in anyway condones such an architecture. Upon the death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus, the Church was small, far-flung, and fragile, and so Peter was raised up to clarify questions and give context to the example laid by Christ to the early church -- so yes, in this way the "church was built on the rock of Peter" which is to say, his teachings & clarifications -- not the man or any man -- Jesus is the foundation on which we must place our faith completely.
Orthodox have many of the same problems as Catholicism.
Faggot-sects of Jesuit-infiltrated "Protestantism" have lost their balls and are no longer standing up against the seat of the Antichrist power which is Popery and most still false sabbath. Although the early Reformers didn't agree on much, they got the ball rolling and agreed that Papacy was illegitimate.

>Comprehensive history of the Reformation & Catholic blasphemy
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF170B126002E7CB0
https://carm.org/list-of-roman-catholic-false-teachings
https://carm.org/luthers-95-theses

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>>135758588
Mark 7:1-13King James Version (KJV)

7 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.

2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.

3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.

4 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.

5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?

6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:

11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.

12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;

13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Catholics are no different from Jews with their strict adherence to tradition of men. Jesus Christ took issue with them rejecting a single commandment. I wonder how He would react if He learned that Catholics tampered with the commandments.

>>135758588
Protestants are in general Judaizers. They adopted practices of Talmudic Judaism and still believe they're Christians
> usury
> sola scriptura
> theft of church property
> messianic desire to build a utopia on earth
All Talmudic.
Just look at puritains. Might as well be Jews arguing about whether they can light the stove on Sunday

>>135763398
the catholic church was not founded by jesus and the protestants see it as a nwo perversion of his teachings.

>>135763649
it wasn't an entirely formal thing until the council of nicea where an organized body picked and chose which gospels and stories to formally recognize as proper christian texts and largely disregarded the formal religion that was supposedly christ pre-approved to be established by his apostles.

>>135764054
whoever christ handed the reigns to, was not christ and thus flawed.

everything is so clouded and perverted by time and translation it's literally pointless to argue semantics.

>>135769481
We do not worship a false prophet you blasphemer. Be gone demon.

>>135758588
You'd know if you studied history

Catholics believe that you have to work almost towards perfection to be saved and constantly carry out mindless and vain sacraments and ceremonies. Almost idolise both Mary and the Pope.
Protestants are much more broad a category, but are defined by the doctrine of faith alone in which faith in Christ saves you and is the only thing that does so. Protestantism, IMO, is
much more biblical than Catholicism.
Martin Luther was redpilled too.

>>135758588
Protestants are basically christians who hated the Church for their display of luxury done with the wealth of the believers and wanted their money for themselves.

>>135758588

They are both heretics, just different kinds of heretics.

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>>135766905
>no pope even the worst has changed one iota of the faith

Francis is trying with Amoris Laetitia, just as John XXII tried 700 years ago to dogmatize the belief that souls without bodies can see God only after Dies irae.

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>>135773710

So who, according to you, aren't heretics ?

>>135773324

Why do so many Protestants pretend to know what they're talking about?

>>135758588
Protestants like Jews, Catholics dont

>>135773666
Wrong. Catholics focused on your position in life and your life working towards salvation. Protestants believed salvation was achieved through individual gain and spawned capitalism.

And no, the sacraments are not mindless. Everyone needeth confess their sins.

Martin Luther was psychotic, probably OCD.

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>>135758880
An accurate post, well done.

>>135774287

Orthodox Christians

>>135774388

So tell us and enlight us. I'm not a Protestant but you can't contest what he said without responding properly.

>>135774672

Why ?

>>135774795

Because Protestants are retarded and half of them even deny free will.
And the Catholic church is basically a mafia concerned with it's own well being to the point of changing doctrine.

>>135774388
Because they have been tainted by Satan and wish to mislead us.

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>>135774512
Jews = Jesuits. And the Jesuits have been a part of the Catholic Church since 1540. This is their oath: "I do further declare that I will help, assist and advise all or any of his holiness’ agents, in any place where I should be in Switzerland, Germany, Holland or America, or in any other territory I shall come to, and do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrines, and destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise. .... I do further promise and declare, that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth, and that I will spare neither age, sex, nor condition, and that I will burn, hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle, bury alive, these infamous heretics, open up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants’ heads against the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poison cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity or authority of the persons whatever be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed to so do, by any agent of the Pope, or superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith of the Society of Jesus." They have been persecuting and killing Christians since 1540.

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>>135774512
Is the Pope Catholic?

>>135768675
Anglicans are my favourite heretics.

>>135774904
>And the Catholic church is basically a mafia concerned with it's own well being to the point of changing doctrine.
This

My head is exploding, all of you keep calling others Heretics. And I still don't know in which denomination should I be baptized...

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>>135768675

>>135775133

Orthodox.
Now I wish I saved the "Become Orhodox :D" Sprudo.

>>135775133
Because being baptized in a denomination only gets you a very short bath.

There's more important things you need, dead man. You need life.

>>135775133
Orthodox.

>>135775133
Catholic.

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>>135775133
>all of you keep calling others Heretics
Welcome to religion.

>And I still don't know in which denomination should I be baptized...
It that you like it too.
Enjoy a lifetime of bickering, and occasional flare-ups.

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>>135758588
The original Church had the foresight to realize that this little Semitic desert cult could be a useful tool in reforming the various pantheons across Europe under one umbrella. Europeans would essentially still be able to worship their various gods under the guise of Patron Saints, but they would all be on the same page in terms of exactly who it was they were worshipping. It was a fantastic idea at the time, too bad heretical faggots had to fuck it up by constantly wanting to remove that aspect and make the religion more Jewish. I sincerely doubt Western Europe would be so secular if it wasn't for all the subversive shit that happened to Christianity over the years that broke down its cohesion and value.

Catholics are able to go to heaven, protestants can not.

>>135775298

Yes, I'm still on my way. I accepted Jesus as my Savior, admitted that I'm a sinner, and I pray every morning and night. I'm trying to stop masturbating completely, waking up early every day and fon't judge others. It's still complicated, I'm not near good enough to go to Heaven and please our Lord.
But I try, I read my Bible every day.
I hope to become a better person and become less of a sinner.

>>135775133
the only denomination that requires baptism is orthodox and roman catholicism. but besides that, you got to seek Jesus and God with an open heart and you'll come to the right one. i recommend roman catholicism, it is just so rich, authoritative, has a great community. more official than orthodox imo

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>>135769481
>prottie inquisition
I legitimately kek'd

>>135775782

And my English isn't very fluid, I struggle to write it properly. Fortunately I read and understand well

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>>135775133
Catholicism. Try to find a Traditional Latin Mass.

>>135758588
catholics have all those bishops and popes and shit

>>135766905
>The pope good or bad is chosen by the holy spirit to shepard his people
False:
>I would not say so, in the sense that the Holy Spirit picks out the Pope…I would say that the Spirit does not exactly take control of the affair, but rather like a good educator, as it were, leaves us much space, much freedom, without entirely abandoning us. Thus the Spirit’s role should be understood in a much more elastic sense, not that he dictates the candidate for whom one must vote. Probably the only assurance he offers is that the thing cannot be totally ruined.
t. Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger as Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

>no pope even the worst has changed one iota of the faith
>what is the Filioque?

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>>135766905
>reddit.com/r/catholicism
>reddit
>r
>catholicism

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>>135775438

>>135776370
Why are you posting the picture of a freemason ?

>>135775585
no, secular nations would have formed of christendom regardless. the separation of church and state was a net positive to the west. just as the pagans were not all aligned towards a common tradition but maintained a common thread so too does the pagano-christian progeny. the strength and resilience of europe is the fractured tribal nature of its make-up. it is a source of tension to be sure but just as europe has many divisions and paganism had many divisions so too does christian europe.

Matthew 22:21 Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's." Romans 13:1 "Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God and those which exist are established by God."

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>>135776431
Don't talk about your Pope like that. Papal supremacy and infallibility and all that crap.

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>>135776370

>>135776114
It's very telling about the integrity of the Roman Catholic Church that you need to advise him to avoid the Ordinary Form of the Roman Rite Mass.

>>135776698
So I should reject my faith at any form of problem ? This is just a test from God, I will pass it, and I will see a pope once again on the throne of Saint Peter one day.

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>>135776370
deus vult fags please try to defend the pope's actions.

>>135776431
jesuits are the catholic branch created to fight the freemasons and the protestant revolution.
inb4 copted muh jesuits.

About North America
The conversation was stilted, as one might expect with the struggle for the possessed person’s soul, but the gist was that Plinio was randomly “breaking people's computers so that they can’t go on the internet” and that he is changing the climate and was “therefore the author of the climate change, and the increase of heat. It is Plinio who does everything,” according to the devil as channeled through the exorcist. Then, the devil predicts that a meteorite will crash into the Atlantic ocean. “North America will disappear,” he warns.

About (((Pope Francis)))
The devil then turns to the fate of Pope Francis, which Tornielli was able to transcribe and translate from the somewhat distorted video. “The Vatican? It's mine, mine!” the devil says to the exorcist, according to Tornielli’s transcript. “The pope does whatever I want, he's stupid! He obeys me in everything. He is my glory, he is willing to do everything for me. He serves me.”
Then the devil, again as channeled by the exorcist for the Heralds of the Gospel, predicts that the pope will perish, not during a voyage, but at the Vatican. “The pope will die falling,” the exorcist’s transcript says quite clearly.
https://archive.is/gHAbq

The Catholic Church will have a major role in the end times to say the least. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07dPzM5q43c

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>>135776875
>inb4 b-b-but he's n-not OUR p-pope!!

>>135761338
>What is the Protestant work ethic

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>>135776883
Funnily enough it was the Jesuits who subverted the Masons and not the other way around. Albert Pike was a Jesuit who became a Freemason.
Read more here: http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm

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>>135776843
Or you could return to Orthodoxy, the unchanged faith as established by Jesus Christ and practiced by the Apostles and their successors for two thousand years....

>>135758588
>protestant christian
No such thing. Worshipping a manmade book and not the traditions of humanity within the catholic church that were bestowed upon us by God is the worship of false idols. Trust in nature and it's laws as created by God, not in words created by men.

>>135758880
>There is also no church figurehead like the Catholic Pope.

The queen is the head of the Anglican church and most protestant denominations have a leading figure.

>>135776974
this
if all else fails they'll post fedora memes to avoid discussion
>but muh deus vult

>>135777332
Take down the statues and maybe I'll consider. The Ten commandments is not to be fucked with.
No exceptions.
Exodus 20:4-6King James Version (KJV)

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

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>>135775256

>>135777332
roman catholicism is the same, just more organized

>>135777332
>>135777660
basically we should have never schismed

>>135777580
It would probably help your case if you didn't use the (((King Jew Version)))

>>135758588
protestants are puritans who think everything is degeneracy and think enjoying life a tiniest bit instead of living bleak and boring work work work work will make God smite them

catholics are more lax

Matthew 7:21-23King James Version (KJV)

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Do not be expected to be saved because of your good works. You should do them, but do not expect to be saved by them.

>>135762441
Nu-pagans are so blind. I'll admit ancient Greece and Rome were incredible societies, but there's nearly 2000 years of Christian dominance in European culture during which time the Western world developmentally leapfrogged over every other civilization on Earth. Our options forward are a return to Christian societies, or a continuation down the path of degenrate secular humanism we're plagued with now. No one will worship Zeus/Odin and their like ever again.

>>135777791
I like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAgDXZfOfx0

>>135758588
Protestants aren't Christians. Just like Muslims aren't Christians. Alright, now's my time to shine folks. Here it goes, green text is easier to read, amirite? I'm a Catholic in an all Protestant region

>Catholics believe in confessing your sins out loud for another ear to hear. This ear will not write your name down, this ear will not report you to the police, this ear will not lay a hand on you. This ear is just an ear to god, the ear cannot see you itself. A protestant only knows what they know best; thus support a police state by advising you to go to a therapist, be put on medications, and will spread your name that you are insane. The ear is a direct passage to god.
>Protestant women are catty, chatty, and will spread lies and rumors about anyone.
>Protestants will freak out if you aren't a Protestant, but still claim to be a Christian despite not knowing they aren't one. As a Catholic, I can listen to non-Christians nag all day on my religion, a Protestant cannot bare the weight of being a Christian.
>Protestants are perverts. Catholics are proper folks.
I promise, if you follow Catholicism, God will guide your way. A Protestant is almost like an untrained beast, vulgar in their ways. They are seriously lost in the a sea of red vision, like a beast. They are vain, overbearing, and begging for an escape. Once they wiggled their way out of one of the most HOLIEST things (marriage) they ultimately lead the devils (gays, trannies, etc) to stomp into a Christian marriage. A protestant wants to use your head as a prop, a Catholic only wishes the best for that brain.
The difference between a Catholic and a Protestant is literal black and white. As in, Catholics are white men, and Protestants are the black. Once you convert to Catholicism, you will understand and won't go back.

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>>135777915
You might be surprised, I've seen quite an upswell of right wing pagans in the last few years. Christianity is quickly becoming a religion of shitskin Africans and somehow I don't see the Church doing anything to correct this error.

>>135778191

> and somehow I don't see the Church
Which church?

Catholics are polytheistic aka heretics

>>135778257
>depressing
>depressing
>Be a better man

>>135778257

The Divine Comedy has little do to with Catholicism and more with creating a myth of the Italian people by continuing the Roman myth of Aeneas.

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>>135776843
>muh throne of Saint Peter
>Come to him, to that living stone, rejected by men but in God’s sight chosen and precious; and like living stones be yourselves built into a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
>1 Peter 2:4-5
Peter IN HIS OWN WORDS explains that Jesus is the rock/stone (KEPHA in Aramaic, the language that Jesus spoke) on which Jesus will build his Church.

>>135777915
>during which time the Western world developmentally leapfrogged over every other civilization on Earth

during middle ages (absolute christian dominance) europe wasnt more advanced then the middle east.

things started to really get in motion during the renaissance, that is, when people managed to find old texts and learned about previous clasiccal times.

also christianity didnt help african niggers improve or evolve in any way.

so no, christianity isnt the reason europe or the west progressed.

>>135758588
Catholics have actually removed Juden while protestants are the world's biggest goyim kikecucks

>>135758880
this, and I would also add that Catholics will "pray" to saints and honor Mary almost as much as God and Jesus, sometimes more so.

Funny story, Catholicism started when Rome adopted Christianity, and to avoid conflict they took all the pagan religions and incorporated them into Christianity. And all those pagan gods? They just renamed them to match biblical characters, and called them "saints." True story. Look it up

>>135778430
actually, he says that Jesus is a living stone, not the rock that he will build his church. what did Jesus mean then when he told peter he was the rock? why would Jesus change simon's name to rock ?

>>135778285
The Catholic Church. I'll make no claims about the veracity of Orthodoxy as I've not stuffied it, but Protestants are literal kikes making a vain attempt at looking like Christians. Quite frankly, at least in the west, Catholicism is the only real Christianity, and if a person can't even do fucking Christianity correctly they should kys.

>>135778690
oversimplification

>>135778781
>>135778430
the cornerstone as prophecized in isaiah

>>135778437
>things started to really get in motion during the renaissance, that is, when people managed to find old texts and learned about previous clasiccal times.
The Roman Empire after Constantine moved the capital to New Rome (colloquially known as Constantinople) and ruled by Christian Roman Emperors was by far the dominant economic and cultural power in the world for over one thousand years. It fell to the Ottoman Muslims a few hundred years after being weakened by Crusaders sent by the Pope to sack and plunder the capital. The old texts that sparked the Renaissance were literally brought by refugees from Constantinople to Italy after the Muslims finally brought the Roman Empire to an end.

one of them is just more heretic than the other

>>135778855

In all honesty I don't know much about how the West converted to Christianity, for all I know it could have been like Islam. All I know is that here it happened voluntary and since we lacked kings and kingdoms at the time, even being occupied by different pagan hordes and tribes and since a saint and apostle was here I believe that the Saint, priests and missionaries simply convinced the people.

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Both are sinful losers who don't take their religion anywhere near as seriously as Muslims do

>>135779217
yes, and?

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>>135775133
Catholicism is the way

>>135779529
Inb4 50 "reeee Muh crusades remove kebab" larp replies

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>>135779293
Both are utterly worthless in the eyes of Allah, the one true God, just like all of white culture

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>>135779529
Shut up,Orc, and get out.
shoebat.com/2014/05/30/biblical-evidence-worship-allah-worship-lucifer/

>>135779529

>Mudshit talking about sinning
Some of you belive that fucking little boys in the ass is okay.
Not to mention most of you are imbreed.

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>>135764390
> (((peter))) got rebuked by paul because of him being a jew

Paul was a fucking Pharisee before is conversion.

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>>135779529
Islam is of the Devil. Your Muslim flag even looks like pic related.

>>135777184
Taxil was a hoaxster and so was guy carr.
i have read all of pikes work and found none of it alluding to anything you claim, do you have any additional sources to add to the letters supposed provenance? if the letter IS real then surely pike is a prophet more concise than Nostradamus.

>>135778781
You'd think that Peter himself would mention something in his epistles about a teaching as crucial as papal supremacy (which would be the basis for splitting the Church one thousand years later), and yet the only reference to building the Church on a rock/stone (KEPHA) by Peter explicitly names Jesus Christ as this rock/stone. Not to mention the fact that no early Church Father writes about papal supremacy, nor the fact that the ecumenical councils of the first one thousand years before the Schism (accepted even by the Roman Catholic Church) name the Bishop of New Rome/Constantinople as being equal to the Bishop of (old) Rome.

>>135779736
>a just god(العادل(
>وَلَوْ شَاءَ رَبُّكَ لَآمَنَ مَن فِي الْأَرْضِ كُلُّهُمْ جَمِيعًا

sure buddy :>

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>>135759819

>Luterans

>>135778430
this is the correct interpretation. cathcucks btfo.
both cathcuks and orthodiks loveeeeee their apostolic successions lmao

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>>135780328
>Lutherans

>>135779857
its actually fine to fuck an animal if no women are near you not even joking

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>>135780533
>Lutherans

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>>135776370

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Hilarious.

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>>135777660
>roman catholicism is the same
It really isn't.

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>>135778191
>pagans