Why not? Inheritance is no better than welfare - unearned income.

>>135751554
At 100% its not a fucking tax anymore, it's straight up forfeiture.

>>135751554
Unless it is from a Jewish family, they have already suffered too much

>>135751554
I want to punch her smug lefty face repeatdly, until it is completely flatenned, all the bones broken, and the brain leaking out.

>>135751554
Sounds like a great way to keep the slaves in poverty

>>135751554
I believe that it will be easier to travel faster than light...

>>135751554
You've got enough gibs already Mohammed.

>>135751554
>disincentivize working for the sake of your children
>incentivize not working at all
What could possibly go wrong?

>>135751554
women should not be allowed to hold opinions on politics or economics

>>135751554
>government takes money under threat of force and gives it to strangers
>you pass on your wealth to your children voluntarily
Yeah, totally the same.

>>135751554

because people would shift their property to their kids while they are alive having next to zero funds for the said welfare

>You can do anything you want with your own money
>Except give it to your own children after you die

journalists are the nigger of humanity

>>135751554
because contrary to your feelings it does not belong to you

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>>135751554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRpEV2tmYz4

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>>135751554
The person leaving the inhertience owned the property. They can do whatever the fuck they want with it. Inheritence taxes removes a giant incentive for anyone to make money, because a huge reason many acquire wealth is to leave it to their children. Fuck off, commie.

>implying I want to give all my money to niggers and other sub-humans when I die
What the fuck?
Inheritance is supposed to be passed down to your kids and grandkids

>>135751941
this. fucking this.
They are a net drain on public coffers. They're lucky they can even vote.

>literally not one argument the entire thread
What did blind partisan parrots mean by this?

I for one agree. Rich borns are the most annoying cunts on earth.
Let these kikes and wannabe kikes work.

You just know that the writer Is on benefits and her parents ain't giving her shit when they finally off themselves.

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>>135751554

>>135752064
/thread

>>135751554
>>> (((Wilkinson)))

EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

>>135752221
Not wanting to give your money to niggers is a perfectly valid argument

>>135751554

I personally want my children to inherit my wealth.

>>135752339
eternal anglo?

>>135752221
Fuck off EUnuch

Hasn't some cow anus blowing African coon earned it as much as you

>>135752339
That's an English name

>>135752221
Please, please go back to analysing the guardian with your pro anarchist, leaderless communist commune and raving about how ethically sourced the wood from your furniture is you fucking curr.

>>135752093
that's dumb anon. tradition and heirlooms should be passed down, not shekels. this is why you guys are in the shape you are in today. you create weak boys and girls by not instilling in them any kind of work ethic or adversity and instead just giving them something they did not earn or deserve.

>>135752352
So you're against the welfare program not the inheritance tax?
Why would you prefer that you pay for it instead of Shlomo Goldbergstein jr. you literal cuck?

>>135751941
wtf, I love Islam now

>>135751554
It removes the incentive for people to work past what they can spend but as importantly (more importantly?) removes the incentive for very long term investments which make up a lot of the capital stock that drives the economy.

You'd be much better of removing the welfare state than doing this trust me, serious business.

>>135752420
>>135752434

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/author/abi-wilkinson/

>>135751554
Women don't deserve rights.

>>135752246
>Thanks for working hard to provide for me even after death mum and dad! Let me just go and piss it all down the drain into some undeserved wretches for some easy points with the sjw cool kid crew!

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>>135751554
>take care of parents in their old age
>get nothing

Thanks commies.

>>135752420
>>135752434

I know two jews with french name.

>>135752438
>still no argument
>better hide it under insults and projections

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how so

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When will liberals pay their fair share of federal taxes?

>>135752573
Lineage is passed through the mother.

hence the stealth Jew

>>135751554
take away what someone worked their arse off for so that their children would have a bit of a leg up and give it away to a bunch of indolent parasites who refuse to get off their backsides and improve their own lot. What could possibly go wrong?

>>135752476
>false dichotomy

Why not abolish the welfare state entirely and let Darwin and Jesus take care of the poor?

>>135752488
Islam would be an objectively superior system to what we have now, if it didn't also come with muslims

>>135752632
Don't use words if you don't know what they mean.
The welfare program exists regardless of the tax in question. If it doesn't get paid by rich people's inheritance tax it has to get paid by worker's income tax. That's a legit dychotomy.

>>135751554
Fuck off you commie scum. I will inherit over 4 million € and I won't give you faggots anything

>>135752488
t.butthurt roastie
>>135752562
mongrel mutt americans only care money and hedonism, they only take care of their parents for money
gas yourself

>>135752575
If you take away all of a person's assets after they die people will begin to stop saving. Why bother when it's not gonna help anyone you care about? People will start spending way too much and consuming way too much which will make the economy fragile. Fragile economies are bad economies. Also, kys

>>135752713
>The welfare program exists regardless of the tax in question currently and this will never change

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>>135751941
>>135751554

She probably has a nigglet at home that needs more gibs to feed.

>>135751554
So the State owns all my income when I die? fuck that you commie fuck.

>>135752474
>work hard all my life
>about to die
>pass down large house and money to kids and other relatives
>holupaminute.gif
>dis aint rite
>giv me yo monay craka
>nigger in government signs law that forces you to give all your inheritance to fund more immigrants
Why is this a good thing you fucking beta?

>>135752713
And don't pretend to be anti-Jew when you're supporting stuff straight out of the communist manifesto.

>>135751554
>people just gift all of their possesions to their children when they are near death

Why is the left so retarded?

>>135752476
I'm against both. I don't want to give my money to niggers, and I do want to my money to my kids.

>>135751554
>welfare - unearned income.
Why use it then?

>>135752764
>If people can't use money to build powerful (((dynasties))) without loyalty to the state they will invest the money
Oh nose. Wouldn't want that

>>135751554

I cannot imagine what it must feel like to be so full of envy and entitlement to other people's stuff and the fact that it's so hip is disturbing.

>>135751554
Jesus Christ, get your shit together England.

>>135752476
Why do you need tax if there is no welfare?

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>>135751804
this

nazis already took their wealth before. can't let this happen again.

>>

>>135752924
Suck my dick eurocunt

>>135752772
>discuss taxes
>braindead pole (i.e. pole) starts talking about a separate topic because he doesn't understand anything
If whatever welfare programms would be thrown out there would still be government programms to finance (military police etc) for which the discussion whether Shlomo Silbernose or Average Joe should pay for would still be relevant.
Why am I even talking to you if you can't understand such simple things?

Wouldn't this just mean that people would start investing in stocks like crazy and then simply pass of their shares to their offspring when its time?

>>135752983
inb4 muh roads
>taxation isnt theft, it's closer to insurance

>>135752416
Imagine if instead they had to work to earn it instead of waiting for you to die. Taxing inheritance is the solution but not at 100%. Anything over 200K should be taxed the same as any other income.

>>135751554
>unearned income.
no
it was earned by ancestors
Those are not some random people giving you money as is the case with welfare, parents work hard so their children can have easier life.

>be germans slaves
>be irish slaves
>slave in new lands
>win freedom
>get shat on for centuries
>be share croppers
>find math and computers
>create technology and profit big time
>my entire bloodline gets to cash in
>here come the nogs
>gibs gibs gibs

>>135752983
Police for example.
I swear 2016 fags are so blindly partisan they can't follow a simple argument through

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>>135753091
>>taxation isnt theft, it's closer to insurance
Who does sell insurance under threat of violence?

>>135753078
Not with a commie inheritance tax.
>trust the Jewish controlled government with complete control over your assets

>middle class and upper middle class lose their ability to rise up and lose the estates they worked for their whole lives
>ultra rich kikes hire 57 accountants and use jewry to transfer their estates 60 times using church property and such so they keep everything
>status quo of jewish nobility and white/brown working class maintained

T-thanks britain

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>>135751554
If you take what I've made and say I can't give it to my children I'll fucking leave. I up and leave the country. I'll move to some small shitty small country and start a white ethnostate. I'll grab all my fascist and racist friends and move our families away. We'll colonize and slowly exploit the locals until we have control of the whole country. Fuck communist, the only reason I work hard is for my children.

>>135753138
>The REASON the Rothshilds got more money than you is because they WORK harder. STOP QUESTIONING IT YOU ANTISEMITE
Dutch everyone

>>135753107
>imblying death duties, treating inheritances, capital gains on inherited properties etc arent already a thing

>>135752023
Unfortunately that's not the way the law works, if you gift assets to a relative whilst you are still alive than they are still liable for inheritance/gift tax. They could sell the property to you for a pittance but then you have capital gains to worry about when you try to dispose of the assets. There is no escape from the (((taxman))) when your are just an average joe.

>>135753196
Why doesn't police use taxpayers money for taxpayers good? Aka removing niggers who doesn't pay taxes and ravage taxpayers property and life?

>>135752924
>they will invest the money
no, they will splurge it all on consumer goods and services, accelerating the distruction of the environment

I'd rather burn my savings and property and salt my land than have the state take it.

>>135753107
This, you wouldn't want hard working families accruing wealth and being able to replace Shlomo's big business, leave it all to the (((government))).

The wealth was already taxed when it was earned, no reason for a tax on transfer.

>>135751554
Only for the middle class, as usual

>>135753197
every state, ever.
please pay attention

>>135753240
Jesus you actually are clinically retarded
>Not with a commie inheritance tax.
>trust the Jewish controlled government with complete control over your assets
Then they will use another tax or raise another tax to get the money. We don't discuss the amount of money spent but which tax should take in that money.
Inheritance tax from (((trust fund kids))) or income tax from workers

You don't even understand why your point doesn't apply do you?

>>135753107
it was taxed when it was acquired as an asset- why do they get to tax it again?

>>135753270
>he is ok with the gov taking his family money because "he didn't earn it"

>>135751941
Ya see if you would just stop acting like savages there are some points we can really agree with

>>135752852
>be you
>swedecuck
>raise cuck children
>give them house after you die from muslim gangrape
>they convert your house into refugee asylum because you didn't instill any values in them and just gave them a bunch of shit
>now all your shit, including your lineage, goes to niggers
who's the beta here anon

It's ok, Brexit is redpilling her

She actually thought BOTH sides were bad, that's pretty amazing for a woman

>>135751554

Just look at this "5 years worthless degree" smile on this pretentious liberal millennial.
Why don't you create something instead of piece of shit articles and maybe you will be able to leave something to your kids you abhorrent parasite.

>>135752064
It's not feelings though you retard. It's a bound contract about where the money legally goes. You are completely wrong. Go shill somewhere else

>>135753304
Because that's not question in hand.
The question is would you have nigger removal forces paid for by inheritance tax or income tax

>>135753315
>people buying more things is not investing and doesn't boost the economy
>accelerating the distruction of the environment
Yeah. Don't talk about subjects you know nothing about

>>135753394
>We don't discuss the amount of money spent
This what OP post literally does.
>there must (((enough))) money spent on welfare
Can't say B without saying A.

>>135752474
If you raised a lazy kid that's on you, not the money. Faggot.

You'll make more money with a 1% inheritance tax than with 100%
>implying old people won't go on a hedonistic binge to waste as much money as they can before they die and have to give it to the government.

>>135753540
>consumption = investment
Gordon Brown pls go

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>>135753192
>German/Irish people shat on for centuries

The fuck? By the mid 1800s the German and Irish people were dominant in many regions of the country.

Please don't fall for the muh oppression memes, fella. You're starting to sound like a left wing Jew or black.

>>135751554
what if you are poor? What if you leave 200$ and a shitty car for your children, will the state 100% tax it as well?

>>135753438
>dad has to pay higher income tax to make up for low inheritance tax
>parents have a shitty life
>can't give you much money
>you have to work more because high income tax
>it's all okay at least Ezra got a Ferrari for his 18th birthday
I wonder why you don't address whereelse to get the money from.

>>135753394
>this is a discussion in which you can only increase the amount you are being taxed because I say so
Straight out of then Talmud.

>>135751925

90% tax on any inheritance amount above 5 million dollars. Problem solved.

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Hell why not 200%? That'll show those moneyleaving bastards.

>>135753540
>by inheritance tax or income tax
or voluntary funding.

But here is the thing: where are nigger removal forces? instead there is police that has literally no obligation to defend taxpayers from harm.

>>135753441
I'm a white christian

>>135753474
Nah, whoever is shoving their dick inside her is redpilling her

>>135753606
Now what did I tell you about subjects you don't understand?

>>135751554
Is this a bitcoin viral?

>>135751554
why don't we have a 100% inheritance tax and use that to pay off the deficit instead

>>135753509
I against the inheritance tax you dipshit

I dont think the state has the right to take anyones inheritance

>>135753678
yes. you instantly solved the problem of family giving a fuck about their bloodkin. well done. now hundreds of dindu niggers miraculously get gibmes for life. well done. you deserve a nobel prize for cock gobbling

>>135751554
How would this even work? People would just give their items away before dying. They'd call this a loophole and just take away all gifts. Basically leading to full blown communism.

i think inheritance shouldn't be passed down after some generation

like, generation 1 inherits generation 0's property
generation 1 can give it to generation 2
but generation 3 can't have that said property obtained by generation 0 unless they pay for it.

generation 3 can however have all the property that generation 1 obtained on top of generation 0's property.

and so forth

we could set a limit so that people won't become homeless.

>>135751554
That's a good way to get all the money out of banks and under mattresses

>>135753861
> i think inheritance shouldn't be passed down after some generation
That's great just enforce this rule within your own family.

>>135753834
as if that wasnt Op (who, true to form is a massive faggot)'s initial aim.
picked it like a broken nose anon.

>>135753677
>>135753700
How is it even possible even for a slav to be that dumb? I don't want high government spending or nigger welfare.
But for whatever spending the government should do they should get the money from inheritance tax rather than income tax.
Saying they should spend less on that or more on that doesn't change the source of income
Jesus seek a doctor

>the entire russian army will get financed by voluntary funding
You see how retarded you are because you rushed to an opinion without understanding the discussion?

>>135753661
It's only fair

>>135753959
mentioning money and fair in the same sentence...
anon.. really...

>>135753678

Sorry for having created products and services that amounted to more than $5M throughout my career. Why don't you come and fuck my wife, eat from my fridge and take my car, while you are stealing? Just be honest about it. You can't, therefore others should suffer.

>>135753861
This would be almost impossible to legislate and would be ridiculously vulnerable to loopholes.

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My little brother has already been brainwashed by the communists to believe the passing of wealth between family is evil.

(The idiot has no problems asking our mother to pass wealth to him, to help him pay his rent of course)

I don't know how to deal with this guy.

>>135751554
She's a communist.

>>135753928
>adhom
>same already refuted argument
>adhom
Better re-read the Talmud, you're getting slow.

>>135754052
He'll grow out of it.

>>135753107

They tax me enough already. You think I worked for myself? I worked for my family.

You'll never understand that.

>>135753861
That's basically already how inheritance works; each generation has to buy the previous generations property with ever decreasing amounts of funds.

>>135753919
my great grandparents were dirt poor.

but I get it how someone like the rothchilds and their shills would bitch and cry about it

>>135751554

What about a million dollar limit? If you can't set up someone with a million dollars they never deserved it

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>>135752221

>make retarded non-argument without any notion of economics, morality or logic behind it.
>people just mock you
>well the lack of serious counter arguments proves my point

Parasite

>>135753678
lol what if you have a bussiness, a factory for example. Will the state seize it?

How about reduce funding to the welfare state by 100%?

>>135751554
because it'll completely collapse in no time flat. The big draws will put everything in trusts while there's very little savings in the lower classes.

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>>135751554
That in effect makes all wealth accumulated over a lifetime a loan. Every cent your earn would be property of the state while you're alive and when you die you return it.

This would only ever apply to the middle class, an absolutely meaningless amount of money would be raised in the grand scheme of things. If you serious think you could perform some kind of shakedown on the upper class you are beyond deluded. They would dodge such a tax like they dodge every other tax, offshore accounts, loopholes and tax lawyers. The billions of shekels they have accumulated over several generations would go untouched. Meanwhile you would raise the odd nestegg raised by a middle class couple totalling a couple of hundred thousand at a time.

Would do nothing except make the middle class worse off and make every working man hate their job just that little bit more with the realization everything they earn is simply a loan that the state will expect repaid the instant they die.

Kill yourself if you unironically consider this a good idea.

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>>135754052
Kill him. It's the only way.

>>135753678
>above 5 million dollars
So the cost of your average family home in London?

>>135754052
He's a fucking pothead

>>135754058
question that hasnt been asked yet... if welfare was to be funded by inheritance tax at 100%, what happens to the funds raised by VAT, income tax, export levies etc.... where does the rest of his money go?
how does it get reported? as revenue? does inheritance get included in , what, GDP or just consolidated revenue?
sounds like someone wants a nice Dacha

>>135751554
So she's saying that the hard work to set up a positive future for your family and children should be instantly handed over the government upon your death to be distributed amongst a bunch of welfare leeches?

FUCK THAT

>>135754152
The state would hypothetically inherit the shares, which would cause some interesting problems in the case of a non publicly traded company.

>>135753861
>generation 3 can however have all the property that generation 1 obtained on top of generation 0's property.
there are practical problems though.

how do you calculate the wealth if it isn't money.

what if it's land. if the land of gen0 has x value and gets valued up or down? if your great grandparents were simple pig farmers and 40 years later that land is worth a fortune because of yuppie neighbourhood? did gen1 create wealth if they sold the money at the right time?

also what about transerring money into another country to cheat the system?

our inheritance tax was abandones because money/land was impossible to be taxed equally.

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>>135751554
FUCK YOU COMMIE SCUM!

I'M GOING TO PUT IT ALL ON FOREIGN ACCOUNTS AND YOU LEECHES AREN'T GETTING A EUROCENT OF IT! TRY AND HAVE ME CAUGHT! GO ON! I FUCKING DARE YOU!

PIECE OF SHIT!

>>135754144
The fact that you don't understand an argument doesn't mean there is none sweety
But for the slow ones:

"The government should get tax money rather from inheritance tax rather than income tax because one is earned and the other is not."
Now please give me a counter argument

>parasite
It would be hilarious if you weren't too stupid to see the irony that the one arguing for higher income tax calls someone a parasite

>>135754105
you are a mooron, high iq people like the rothchilds would probably escape the tax quite easily

>>135751554

spotted the poor faggot offspring from (((socialists)))

>>135754251
Black people spend it on menthol cigarettes.

>>135751554
I never understood why poor right wingers support rich people being such greedy fucks. I love Trump and all and want most left wing people to die a horrible death but I got to agree with them fuck rich people who are only rich because they were born into wealth that was created by their ancestors being born with a certain name.

Kill the masters

>>135754030
You dont have to be sorry, we'll benefit from all that money being put back into the system :^)

I am open to some socialist safety nets and am for Obamacare. Yet even I think this bitch is a dumb leftist cunt.

>>135754050
why?

>>135754100
you don't have to buy the previous generation's property. you're not paying the full price of the property.
it's just your average bs tax on economic transaction.

>>135753928
Things is that op post suggest spending as granting without questioning it "unquestionable and undiscussable". You agree with nigger welfare by paying the tax.

>>135751554
BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO STEAL MY FAMILY'S LEGACY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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>>135751714
It is pretty much a full communist state at that point.

I'm loving the comments on that article. Holy fuck.

>>135754316

yes mate, 100% right.
thank god there are companies helping you out hiding your assests from greedy wankers and x-wifes!

>>135751554
>some dumbass quite that doesn't even make sense
>some dumb cunt

>100% tax
Wouldn't this affect the queen? When she dies all of the royal holdings would be forfeit.

>>135754445
>why?

How would you accurately establish and track exactly which property or capital was earned by each generation?

>>135754317
>could would should
okay...

>>135754411
Because they aren't insecure and jealous.

>>135754457
Why do you have to be willfully ignorant?
I haven't once mentioned welfare and you just retreat to the same old crap to avoid acknowledging that you were in error.

The money to finance the russian army:
Income tax or inheritance tax?

>>135754316
>Parents now sell everything before death and transfer it to their child's name
Tax status: EVADED
Also you fucking commits need to get a job

>>135753197
It's for your own safety. Capiche?

>>135754477
the best thing about gommunist waifus is that they have to wear skimpy clothing, cos lack of fabric from centralised cothings industries
>inb4 moldylocks

>>135754030
Isn't it stealing when families over generations take advantage of their titles and the advantages they had to obtain millions of dollars which they then leave to their lazy bum children who are basically given the perfect life by pure luck.

And that my friend is why I rob and beat rich guys in town :)

>>135751554
>taxing income twice

>>135754411
> fuck rich people who are only rich because they were born into wealth that was created by their ancestors being born with a certain name.
You think rich people born to rich people are only rich because of their inheritance? Look up IQ and income, and explain to me why most people who win the lottery squander their money within a few years.

>>135754422
You're only one scale less retarded than her

>>135753270
>using Rothschilds as comparisson
>believing the Rothschilds pay any tax at all
lmao

I work so my children can have a better life than I did.
Without inheritance, you're just a slave.

>>135751554
Anything more than 0% is unacceptable desu.

>>135754618
>Income tax or inheritance tax?
Export oil sales tax and VAT.

>>135751818
>brain is leaked out
>brain

Such an optimism

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>>135751804
>>135752624
>>135752865
>>135753255
>>135753394
>>135753628

I'm surprised no one has mentioned how non-whites put a serious strain on the welfare state.

>>135751554
This would be incredible easy to get around

>100% inheritance tax
and watch as every millionaire/billionaire/anyone with investments decides to do their banking in another country.

congrats, you've bankrupted the country for more gibsmes

>>135753678
>looting the bank accounts of successful people to fund niggers

Why

>>135754621
>the state can't spot huge monetary gifts from parents to children shortly before death
You realise such things are in place RIGHT NOW as the inheritance tax is not 0% and the government cracks down on tax evaders.

>Also you fucking commits need to get a job
Says the one who wants to increase income tax to protect unearned income.
The buzzwords have gone to your head. You can't even understand simple logic anymore

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>>135754532
The socialists are usinginheritance tax to destroy whatever is left of our nobility class.

It doesn't hurt the royal family, but it hurts the lower families who are dukes, earls, barons, etc.
The children can't afford to inherit the land from their parents due to our system.
As result of this policy, cultural treasures like the castles in Denmark are slowly being sold away to foreign investors. Along with the woodland areas and other land they had been maintaining for the public all along.

>>135754771
anon
>>135753812

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>>135754764
kek

>>135751554
What a nihilism inducing statement
How about shut the fucking borders instead?

>>135754669
>you were just born into a first world country out of luck, why don't you have empathy and share with some refugees
Fuck off commie.

>>135754532
the crown is the state....

>>135754669
Because you're a fucking loser who's entire lineage were failures so you take it out on the more fortunate because you're a nigger?

>>135754779
None of these taxes apply to the seriously wealthy to begin with. It's 100% and without an initial allowance because the author is at least smart enough to understand that they have to squeeze the middle classes to make a difference.

>>135754780
don't the question logic behind communism
there is none

>>135754741
Alright we are making progress. Now imagine the tax income doesn't suffice for your government spending. Would you rather get the rest money from income tax or an ever increasing VAT? Where would you draw the line?
Why is it fair that Babushka now can't afford to eat anymore because of a gargantic VAT just that some brats can inherit a billion dollar fond?

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>>135754805
>the government cracks down on tax evaders.
>he doesn't know the biggest tax evaders are the biggest donaters to political parties

>>135754833
Fucking sad.

>>135751554
I'd abolish all taxes on private citizens - income tax, inheritance tax, all of it - but in exchange, businesses and corporations (aka legal entities not biological entities) would get taxed to hell and back.

Also, welfare would get abolished, it's a total failure. Instead of handing money to people proven to be bad at handling money - give them food and shelter while they're in the shitter and help them help themselves. Either they'll be motivated to not depend on state-bought food and sharing a room with 10 other people or they'll stay that way forever. But no money transfers.

the muslims are 100% right about women

>>135754898
True, but she hold enormous personal wealth

>>135754833
It's truly disgusting because some peasant farmer from China whose father became a millionaire because of communist party connections just bought the mansion of a good nobility with ties to the land.

>>135754766
I didn't want to bring up Jews but the Eurocrat Commie thought he could make an argument by doing so.

>>135751554
Well, the welfare state did fine without those taxations till retards came in power.
You have to pay more because someone else failed at his job.

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>>135751554
This is literally one of the main points in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Almost all every plan in it has happened or is being implemented soon. Are we ready going to pretend like it is fake, when the Jews have been using it like a guideline for 200 years?

>>135754979
>why is it fair
>fair
What are you, 5 years old? Do I have to share my toys with you or you'll cry and tell the teacher?

>>135752246
Liberals in a nutshell. Hypocrites and mentally insane.

When will we start putting these people into mental asylums?

>>135753540
>muh (((economy))) spend more money on those chinese goods, its le dystaties that are the problem not corporations and their consumerism, you stupid goy.

>>135754989
>but in exchange, businesses and corporations (aka legal entities not biological entities) would get taxed to hell and back.

SO then all the business fails or leaves due to tax burden...so where do the private citizens work?

Didn't think that one through did you Zdenko?

>>135754983
How is that related to the argument? Other than you needing an empty win to stroke your fragile ego.
I'm all for cracking down on tax evasions. They aren't inherint to the inheritance tax and they aren't unavoidable more than other taxes.
Stopping tax evasions is a completely different discussion.
Now once we stopped all tax evasion: Would you rather get tax money from inheritance tax or income tax?

>>135751554
>(((Abi)))

>>135754833
the property/castles are not nationalized?

>>135755045
>making excuses
Are you some kind of... jew?

>>135754111
5 million per heir, incentive for the rich to start having more fucking kids

>>135754985
There is nobody more greedy than poor people on class warfare.

These greedy people to as far as hurting each other during Black Friday rushes.

>>135754669>>135754669
>be nigger
>advocate 100% death/inheritance tax
>singlehandedly remove any pull factor for shitskins and mudslimes to migrate to the west, because little achmed and umfufu huranteed to get fuck all from mum and dads' 20+years at 711
>all immigration ceases
um anons.... we might hve a situation here

>>135752246
Some animals are more equal than others

>>135751554
Impossible to implement. I'll bury my cash in the backyard and tell my children where to find it if I have to

>>135754552
you evaluate every inheritance, and keep records, and any value added to that is what was earned by each generation.

Say generation 0 gives away 1
Generation 1 gets 1, no problems or questions asked.
He earns his labor through life, and now his total assets are 1 + x (x being the fruits of his labour).
Now generation 1 gives 1 + x to generation 2.
Generation 2 lives and works and now generation 2 has 1 + x + y(y=gen2 labor)
Now generation 3, has to get something inherited, but he will only be able to inherit x and y. He has the right to buy 1, but if he can't or doesn't want to, it's taken by the state.

>>135751554
>be rich goy
>work hard all your life save up couple million
>government decides what to do with the money you worked for

kek

>>135751554
Hey OP can I have you dead body when you die? You don't need it? I want a Human skull as a page weight. Preferably German.

>>135755091
>Do I have to share my toys with you or you'll cry and tell the teacher?
You are mentally ill.
Does Babushka have to share her toys with you or you cry and tell the teacher?
Your IQ obviously doesn't suffice to follow a discussion so I'll stop replying to you. Every nonamerican will notice we were arguing about the source of income for national spending not the output

>>135755116
They wouldn't be taxed so much that they'd fail due to tax burden, they'd be taxed the maximum amount they can be without failing to turn a minor profit.

On the matter of leaving, there would also be a tax on capital flight - and it would be 100%.

>>135755220
lost me at " but if he can't or doesn't want to, it's taken by the state"

>>135755135
I imagine some of them are, but the point of being a duke of a country is you own part of the country, right?

It's those people the socialists are attacking.

>>135752492
No that's what welfare does. If you inherit a lot of money, you'll only spend it all if you're a dumbass. If you're intelligent, you'll invest it to make more money. How does the country suffer from that?

If I buy and rent two flats with a inheritance sum for example, I'd be doing more than some lowly McDonald's worker.

>>135755276
>Does Babushka have to share her toys with you or you cry and tell the teacher?
No, I'm asking her to because I have my own shit because my parents weren't losers and drug addicts.

>>135755276
>still no arguments, just adhom
Zzzzz, tried to enjoy this thread but you're just boring. Better luck next time.

>>135753628
>those surnames
>planters
>irish
fuck off burger

>>135755359
Still not talking about output. The example I gave was defense spending. I would have guessed even an american would understand that but here we are.

>>135755220
Tax is already easy to avoid, and after this you'd be trying to accurately track all assets over a window of over 100 years and potentially across multiple countries.

>>135753265
Just go on a lefty killing spree in old age. You'll be dead soon from old age anyway so it's not like they can punish you.

>>135751554
why not tax everything at 100% and let the state handle our need. You know that is best because the state is smarter than you are.

>>135755405
italian shitposters...
(((you)))

>>135751554
why dont you fund your welfare with your pussy cunt

People would just give away their assets to family before they die. Lawyers will get even richer because they will now just lurk near the patient on their death bed with papers to sign.

>>135753450
This would be accurate if the last line read that their children would die from being Muslim gangraped after turning the house into a refugee asylum.

>taxing income twice

Absolutely marxist

Your statement contradicts itself. You are certifiably retarded.

>>135752852
Careful Sweden.
What's that knock at the door?

>be rich
>get old
>sell fucking everything
>take all your wealth and family and move to sane a country
>watch successful country turn into Africa in one generation or less

>>135755396
I have compassion for the mentally ill so let me take you by the hand:

>>135754316
>"The government should get tax money rather from inheritance tax rather than income tax because one is earned and the other is not."
>Now please give me a counter argument
We are not talking about the amount of money the government should spend or on what.
Imagine you yVRNeSsg are the ruler of a country. You want to do stuff. Military whatever. Stuff costs money. Where do you get the money?

>>135754308
>how do you calculate the wealth if it isn't money
like how the gov. calculates the value of the property it needs to take it from you to build roads.

>what if it's land. if the land of gen0 has x value and gets valued up or down?
It doesn't. The value of the land would be evaluated once at the time of death/inheritance. So if after 50 years the land is now, according to martket, super expensive, it's not for gen 3 who is given priority to acquire it for the price it had 50 years ago (plus inflation)
If it's super cheap and worthless... well, let it go to the gov and buy it from them when prices are adjusted.

>did gen1 create wealth if they sold the money at the right time?
Yes.
Say gen 0 were simple pig farmers, whose land at time of death was worth 1.
gen 1 sells that land later for 100
gen 3 can only get 99 of those 100.

>also what about transerring money into another country to cheat the system?
Like it's being done today?

>>135755735

All forms of taxation should be removed and replaced with a single land tax.

>>135755126
Because it would go against the interest of any major political party to create a 100% inheritance tax. Ignoring the moral dimension I'll explain to you why such a tax would never work.

People do not lioe paying taxes of any kind, the aim is aoways to pay as little tax as possible, hell tax lawyers make CAREERS out of helping people hide as much money as possible from the tax man. Now we could go around and around in circles about whether this is moral behaviour but the fact is people like to keep their money. Now you propose a tax which takes everything when people die so naturally people (or the ones that can afford to) are going to loophole their way out of it. You can think thats disgusting all you want but it ABSOLUTELY WOULD HAPPEN, people want to pass their money on to their children. Next you mention governments cracking down on tax cheats, this goes the interests of political parties. The biggest doners to political parties are the mega rich, if any government proposed taxing it 100% when they die, Mr Goldberg would quickly hide his shekels away in some tax haven (if it wasn't already there) and withdraw all funding from political parties. Nobody is going to do it. The mega rich the people you want to pay up arent just going to hand it over, they are going to hide it away. The only money it would raise is money from the middle class, people that want to give their kids a boost but are nowhere near rich and well connected enough to dodge it.

>inheritance tax
This just mean all the shit of people dying will be given away before they die

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>>135754316

>lets skip 50 steps not provide any justifications or arguments and just assume that rape is moral and good and should be funded by the state,
>now do you want it in the ass or the mouth? >What you don't wanna be fucked in the mouth? that means you want it in the ass! >check mate faggot, shows you not to fuck with a master of debate like me.

Damn son, you sure showed me

>>135751554
>My family worked hard to earn a sizable amount of money and assets.
>The goal was to pass it down to me so that i can live a better life then they did and pass on even more
>This is a bad thing.
Why? This is exactly what should be happening. People should be trying to amass some sort of money or assets to pass down so that hopefully their children will make grow and pass down so that as the generations go on the family becomes well off and will not have to suffer because it all started with one selfless person willing to sacrifice more.

Fuck off with your Inheritance tax.

>the meaning of life is to have children and give them the best chance at possible of having children of their own and passing on your genetics
>in our society having money gives you the best chance of success
>work your ass off so you have a lot of money to enable your children have access to the best schools or whatever so they have the best chance at success
>these people want to prevent you from carrying out your prime directive as a living organism
you legally should be able to kill these people for actively hindering your attempts to raise, nurture and provide for your children

>>135754111 Look up Huey P. Long. "Share the Wealth" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey_Long

Looks like she also claimed rape
https://medium.com/@AbiWilks/about-uber-4209f93bb486

>>135751554
This only benefits corporations. For people who apparently hate capitalism, they sure love to suck corporate cock.

>>135755316
it's meant to stimulate growth and investement.
you shouldn't be in posession of something you didn't work for.

and the guy who first acquired, though it is his right to give it to anyone he wants, he obviously cannot give to people that didn't exist at the time of his death.

>>135755897
>Because it would go against the interest of any major political party to create a 100% inheritance tax.
Which does in no way influence the argument but I know what you mean
>Ignoring the moral dimension
Conveniently.
>I'll explain to you why such a tax would never work.
>more tax evasion shit
Yeah no shit. And if nobody would work we couldn't have income tax. I already said: Suppose we crack down on tax evasion. It's not impossible. I know it's not politically realistic but that's irrelevant for our discussion.
Saying Shlomo hides his money from inheritance tax isn't an argument against inheritance tax but against tax evasion.

>>135755888
This is the first real argument itt and I have to read up on it. Just know I appreciate anyone tackling the issue finally.

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>>135751554

>fund the welfare state

How did we get to a place where wording like this can be virtuous? 10 years ago 95% of people recognised 'welfare state' as a negative term.

Is the guardian handed out to gibs monkeys at the dole office now or something.

>>135756064
>he was an outspoken populist who denounced the wealthy and the banks
>Long was shot a month after announcing that he would run for president

Clearly a complete coincidence

>>135753394
>It doesn't even apply to you! How can you be against it?!
So this is the mind of a prole on socialism

>>135755990
>>My family worked hard to earn a sizable amount of money and assets.
>>The goal was to pass it down to me so that i can live a better life then they did and pass on even more
>>This is a bad thing.
Exactly this. I plan to work until death just so I can leave my children with more than I had in the hope that they can then do the same with theirs one day assuring my family is permanently wealthy.

>>135751554
>I hate rich kids because they're rich and I'm not.

>Lets fucken take all their money so I can live for free!

>Incentivise not working by punishing your most productive members of society. Who cares about all the thousands of examples throughout history of how this didn't work, I'm a whiny bitch neet and I don't care!

Pol has really gone to shit.

>>135751554

Inheritance tax is for poor people who do not know how to invest it properly.

>>135756350
"do you" not "to you"

>YOU WANT TO LOWER INCOME TAX??? COMMIE
Such is the mind of the... nah it's mindless.

>>135751818
>that self-righteous smug face

I want to fucking break her

>>135751554
Because the welfare state doesn't produce a single cent of wealth.

>>135756304
>Is the guardian handed out to gibs monkeys at the dole office now
Much worse. Who needs jews when you have such traitors?

>>135751554
I'll let based Jewish economics man Friendman answer that very question OP.

https://youtu.be/MRpEV2tmYz4

Tl;dr 100% inheritance tax is retarded and goes against a core goal of accumulating wealth in the first place

>>135756260
Your idealism is showing.

Shlomo hides all his money from income taxes, capital gains taxes, etc amd does so successfully. Why the hell do you think you could hit him with a 100% inheritance tax successfully? I'm realistic, I know that schlomo is going to dodge the tax. Whether I think its fair or not is utterly irreverent, its as inevitable as the sun rising in the eat tomorrow.

As I said, the megarich, the people you want to hit, would dodge this in a heartbeat. The only people it would effect are those with a few hundred thousand, maybe even less. The ones that actually worked to produce a legacy they could pass on. The ones that do not deserve it.

>>135756428
This makes no sense.

And you know it makes no sense.

>>135756260
>Suppose we crack down on tax evasion. It's not impossible
How naive are you?

>>135751554
That is quite literally a communist manifesto talking point and the end goal of the inheritance tax.

>>135754477

Is that Monroe?

>>135756818

No, if you are passing on most of your wealth as an inheritance instead of other means your are an idiot.

>>135751554
Because people would just blow all their money before they die. Why bother keeping it around when you can't even better your kids life.

>>135756304
Just make sure that a massive chunk of the population depends on the welfare state and suddenly it's not a dirty word anymore.

>>135756759
Because if we were in power to install the 100% income tax we'd also be in power to install measures to enforce it.

Wanting to crack down on tax evasion is not idealism.

And you can repeat yourself 10 times how the rich evade taxes. I'm not arguing that. I'm sayinf WHEN we crack down on tax evasion inheritance tax is better.

>>135751554
Ironically, Ms. Wilkinson can only read and write and is not a combination prostitute/washerwoman because her grandfather and father both inherited enough money to keep a long line of WASP lifestyles going.

>tfw if I don't get my mothers inheritance I will die homeless unless the government actually gives white people a living wage

>>135757007
>WHEN
So never?

>>135756759
This.
It's the same as the usual "hurr durr just tax the rich more" shit.
The rich already aren't paying their taxes, why would that change if you're trying to grab even more of their money?

>>135756947
it's even worse than that. People would just working early. Why work and create things if you cant use it to help your family.

Going after inheritance is just another way the government is attacking the family structure.

>>135751554
1 post by this ID. every time

>useless nu males worried that they couldn't accomplish anything if they had to start at zero like everyone else.

>>135756891
>lol why do you argue political measures if you don't have political powers
Unironically the smartest thing yet to come out of your mouth.

Still some of us can understand the concept of a hypothetical IF debate

>>135751554
Why not forfeit all of your property and have it redistributed by a state bureaucracy?

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>>135751554
because 9000% inheritance tax is better

>>135751554
Does life insurance payout get filtered through inheritance tax?

>>135757135
Has nothing to do with that, my grandfather used to work in the mines and my father isn't that great with handling money so I am not gonna inherit a lot.

I just also realize that a 100% inheritance tax would be disastrous for the country, and since I live in it I'd like it to not turn into an even worse shithole.

The stupidity and short-sightedness of the original quote up top just hit me. Islam is right. Women should not be allowed to fucking speak.

>>135757090
How do you know tax evasions happen if there is no way to track it?
It's easy to spot and gets done all the time. Including by amateurs like you.
Now imagine the IRS or whatever it's called in the country in question putting their resources to track down tax evasion.
>but they aren't
YES! And we have no 100% inheritance tax now. We are discussing hypothetical changes in political measures.
Jesus

What if we replace wages with beating rations?

Instead of being paid money you are paid with less beatings?

Good employees receive normal regular beatings while substandard employees receive severe regular beatings

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>>135751554
"why not give even more of men's money to women?"

>>135751554
Fuck off commie

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>>135751554

Reminder that this is plank number three of Karl Marx's communist planks:

lassezfairerepublic.com/tenplanks.html

This chick is outing herself.

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Why not fund the welfare state by disowning all the jews?

>>135751554
Yes, because adding more to the welfare state has stopped poverty, right? R-right?

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just wanna say thanks to all the cucks in this thread who are defending my right to live like a king and fuck all your future slut wives without ever doing any productive work

>>135757169
it is not an easy tax

for example in russian empire it took 10000000 people 100 years ago just to perform redistribution of property by force

in west today you need to kill and expell 100000000 to just try communism again.

you must understand that people will shoot state workers with WEAPON, so state workers must relly on terror and mass murder, like hitler or trotsky

why not to fund welfare state with slaves?

>>135751554
Fuck off commie. No inheritance tax.

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>>135751554

> Build wealth for your family over a lifetime and/or over generations

> Leftist creature appears

> "Hey that's a nice jewgoldz you got there"

>>135757442
You are so ignorant of economics and so disgustingly greedy

I am happy to live with what I earn atheist dog

>>135751554
Inheritance is much better. Because fuck the gubment, all they do is take my money to pay their salaries. Hippie faggots.

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rage

>>135757442
>what's the difference between welfare queens and trust fund babies?
>I don't have to pay for one to sit on their ass

>>135757414
Why does that one jew have a christian icon?

>>135752924
Why would I invest my money if you're just going to take every penny? The moment you threaten to steal all of it, people will start to spend every dime they have right before they die.

>>135751554
See
>>135752071


Why do we keep having this thread with the same article and question ?

>>135755405
Charles Carrol was Irish Catholic. Most of the rest were Scots-Irish, who are still genetically Celtic.

Carroll is literally an Irish surname. Dumb fucker

>>135757644
no, they will sell all, buy gold, reserve currency and run away from the country

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>>135752246
Reminds me of this.

>>135757309
Tax evasion of rich is done via moving assets across borders. You may track things in you country but when they move abroad tracking becomes much more difficult and more importantly you have no jurisdiction to tax in other countries.

>>135752221
they should go back to regular flags. the only people using meme flags are trolls. it's ridiculous

>>135757618
Either it's jusut supposed to be expensive art, or maybe it's supposed to symbolize that all ethnic jews would be expelled regardless of creed.

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>>135751554
Because pic related. You can't answer this question, no liberal can. The end.
>inb4 "but we're all, like, humannns maannnn."

>>135757730
she should go to a muslim no go zone. she'll get more than catcalls

>>135757644
Which increases revenue which increases production which increases investments
It's literally impossible to walk through life without ever hearing of the relationship between spending and growth

I'm not arguing for higher taxes. I'm arguing for inheritance tax rather than income tax as the mean to get the tax moeny

>>135757777
Noted

>>135757618
He's a jeweller. The box with jewelry he carries says "clearance sale"

plot twist
>this is a /leftypol/ gaslighting thread

>>135757739
I fully acknowledge that problem. But it's as much a problem right now. If the OP didn't include the words welfare state the entirety of /pol/ would object to international corporations switching countries to avoid taxation.

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>>135757035
She's Jewish. And technically speaking there is no such thing as WASPs, as the English aren't genetically Anglo-Saxon.

>>135757537
>>135757612
thanks for working and paying taxes to keep my trust fund pumping out money
those bonds need tax revenue to pay out

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>>135751554
>feel death approaching
>salt your land plot
>flood your apartment with gas & go out in a ball of fire
Choke on it, fucking scum. Being autistic genetic dead-end, property is only way I can benefit my family, so that shit fucking triggers me. I'm foaming from my fucking mouth.

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>>135757730

>>135757815
so spend all your money before you die. brilliant

while we're at it I want a law to ban parents using their money for their kids education, health, food, etc. the state should do it

>>135757791
>earn
>inheritance
Why not lower income taxes through higher inheritance tax? Your pic would apply even more than?

>>135757890
He's talking about the painting of Mary and Jesus.

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>>135757730

..

>>135757964
Good thing I have some tax exemption status.

>>135757994
>so spend all your money before you die. brilliant
Or give it to the state. Is that an objection? Cash flow is always a good thing.

>while we're at it I want a law to ban parents using their money for their kids education, health, food, etc. the state should do it
I strongly disagree but of course you're incapable of rational argumentation without strawmanning

So 100% inheritance tax but white people should pay black people for crimes comitted by their ancestors?