Friendly reminder that religiosity is negatively correlated with IQ

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>>135737071
> muh fedora

>>135736982
Fuck iq then

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>>135736982
Are you sure, nigger?

>>135737188
Found the christcuck that can't read charts

>>135737327
That's not a particularly great chart, to be honest. What happened to >110¿ do we have sauce for this?

>>135736982
110 isn't that high. The average English major has a higher IQ than that (I think it's 121). The chart should go to 130 minimum.

>>135736982
friendly reminder that IQ is directly correlated with socioeconomic factors

>atheists are just smart enough to question theology and watch dawkins, but too dumb to go full Bacon and come back around to religion
Sounds about right famalam

On an unrelated note, does't it seem like mediocre people are the greatest threat? Brainlet operate on instinct and can be put to good use, geniuses always have something to add, mediocrities are easily lured in by sophists.

>>135737327
His reading is fine. The percent atheist goes up, but the iq doesn't.

>>135736982
Are you controlling for race?

>>135737188
A little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion

>>135736982
>>135737188
>>135737994
This is a classic chopped-axis chart.
Religiosity is correlated with dumbasses, fact.
But, there are plenty of highly-intelligent religious people, read Aquinas or Augustine, smartest men of their age.
Iq:Relgious is not an atheist argument.
>religion is an ape superstition to keep bands of warriors together and unafraid in new lands.
Understand it, it's like murder: Instinctive, but we don't do it anymore as it's useless in modern society and even dangerous and degenerate.

>>135737327
The correlation is there depending upon the set.

Reminder that the scientific epicenter of the world is being conquered by illiterate goat herders.

Fixing OP:s shit: The blue balls are countries with avarage IQ (hence no >110). There's 137 entries in total. They also studied the difference within societies and found the avarage IQ of fedora to be 6 points higher than a religtard. The paper is by Lynn, Harwey&Nyborg

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>>135736982
139 IQ here

Eat a dick you atheist faggots

>>135736982
nice reference so we can check the sampling method. you really are non-biased. just wow, op, you're a rarity here on /pol/.

>>135738664
275 IQ here. I believe in a god that filters out the most extreme entries in statistics.

k

>>135738664
141 IQ here. Religious faggots btfo.

All that chart appears to show is that you shouldn't have society ruled entirely by religion, not that religion has anything to do with IQ.

Not a surprise... people with high IQs are generally more intellectually inquisitive.

85% of 5 year olds believe in the existence of Santa Clause. Most religious people were already indoctrinated into their particular religion by 5.

I think it's quite unlikely that the God described by Abrahamic religions (or any other religion in human history for that matter) would have any of the concerns that these religions seem to attribute to him... more likely they are the concerns of cult leaders and warlords.

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>>135738949
Go shove a banana up your ass

>>135738349
Oh yeah Christianity is totally destructive and degenerate unlike feminism and neo marxism. Fucking idiot.

>>135739263
nice strawman

>>135739065
This. The two top left entries seem to be Austria and China btw. So those countries perform well with most religion. Religtards should stop shitposting and seek advise from them.

>>135736982
here's some math for you: it takes 59 hrs to read the full harry potter series, that times 4 is about 240, that's about the time it takes to read a 4 year college curriculum. if you read every day for an hour you could read all that in no time. college is propaganda IQ tests are bullshit.

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>>135736982
75% of Czech Republic are atheists and it's full of fucking retards though?

>>135739211
tips fedorah
the messiah was here

>>135739723
What? Exactly what are you saying and what does it have to do with my post?

>>135739706
sure for shit majors, but not everybody can succeed in STEM fields by just reading books

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1088868313497266

>A meta-analysis of 63 studies showed a significant negative association between intelligence and religiosity. The association was stronger for college students and the general population than for participants younger than college age; it was also stronger for religious beliefs than religious behavior. For college students and the general population, means of weighted and unweighted correlations between intelligence and the strength of religious beliefs ranged from −.20 to −.25 (mean r = −.24). Three possible interpretations were discussed. First, intelligent people are less likely to conform and, thus, are more likely to resist religious dogma. Second, intelligent people tend to adopt an analytic (as opposed to intuitive) thinking style, which has been shown to undermine religious beliefs. Third, several functions of religiosity, including compensatory control, self-regulation, self-enhancement, and secure attachment, are also conferred by intelligence. Intelligent people may therefore have less need for religious beliefs and practices.

tl;dr high iq correlates with religiosity, the higher the IQ the less likely it is someone is religious (and in particular, doggedly so.)

https://youtu.be/ASUHN3gNxWo


This guy explains the problem with Religion

>>135739231
141 IQ here, btfo religious bacteria

>>135739599
Also on the top left are Singapore, Italy, Swizerland. I lost the order but the point still stands, if you support religiousness and intelligence you probably should study what these countries do right.

>>135737188
This. According to the chart, the highest IQs are centered around still being majority theistic.
This chart reminds me of those "brain meme" pictures that go something like:
small brain = believes in God
medium brain = does not believe in God
large brain = there could be a God
transcendental brain with beams coming out of it = believes in God

>>135739896
I was apart of one study, not as a participant. These are misleading. They don't necessarily not believe but, question it more. It's a big difference and different agendas word it differently.

>>135739896
Intelligence and college has no relation so these studies must be flawed and useless data

>>135740021

Not even close. The most brilliant people overwhelmingly do not believe in a God. Because a country has an average IQ a half standard deviation higher than the mean does not mean that those humans who really do have "transcendental brains with beams coming out of it" believe in a God.

>>135739263
Modern Christianity is barely a religion, and if you are over-religious in any Abrahamic religion, we will probably imprison you.

>>135740021
> transcendental brain with beams coming out of it : stoping dealing with concepts and admitting that you are one with the universe and thus YOU ARE GOD

fixed it for you

>>135737188

ever heard of regression?

>>135740282
Believing you are God is for low IQ niggers. This I know.

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>>135740374
respond to pic related please

>>135740216
Wasn't Sir Isaac Newton a believer of God?

Yeah, I don't think so buddy. Keep listening to Bill Nye level of "smart people."

>>135740571
believing in god and believing that one specific abrahamic religion is the only ultimate universal truth are 2 different things

>>135740538
It's fucking funny for sure and made me lol.

But God still gave you the choices to make. The fact that He knew you would fail doesn't mean He designed you to fail. Sorry, but you have to take responsibility at some point.

>>135740571
Yes, obviously selecting one person who existed in a completely different time frame is proof that a God must exist and that the general point I was making, which is completely factual, is somehow incorrect, and you probably think you're making a good point...

>>135740710
>fact that He knew you would fail doesn't mean He designed you to fail

so he willingly created man knowing that he would send to majority of them to hell, what a shit god then

>>135740710
God didn't give you choices to make, free-will is a complete illusion (FMRIs are already proving it) and I doubt you could even begin to present a secular argument for free-will so it's probably time that you stop posting.

>>135740668
You can start with the simple belief in a higher power and then ultimately find that it is Christ all along. A lot of people come to Christianity on those terms.

>>135736982
Do sub Saharan africans even into the metaphysical concept of a god?

>>135740027
This is why I'm skeptical of religiosity/IQ statistics. There are very few materialist atheists (*tips fedora*). But the ones who are simply non-religious are often put in the same category.

>>135740887
On what evidence exactly does one, or did yourself, come to the conclusion that "Christ" is the one true higher power and how is it you came to understand his intentions for you? I ask because I tried for years, and the more I tried the less I was convinced that humans have even scraped the surface of what exists beyond the visible universe let alone the creators of religions who didn't know what stars were.

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>>135740792
You can be angry about it... but if anything it's just added validity to The Bible.

The fact that most people end up going to hell in The Bible just shows what based book it truly is.

Who has lived among people and can deny that that isn't the case?

>>135740844
God can know the future while still giving you free will. They are not mutually exclusive things.

It honestly would take a low IQ nigger to struggle with that concept.

>>135741029
I don't think he's angry about your particular interpretation of Christianity which apparently many disagree with, more he's pointing out that a God responsible for a Universe that has space expanding faster than the speed of light would have created guidance for future humanity better than something that sounds like it was written by iron age barbarians.

>>135741125
So basically going to heaven is just the luck of being born in the right religion

>>135741012
I guess it would be pretentious of me to say to you that I eventually prayed to Christ and heard the call. Pretentious of me, and unconvincing. I don't know what to say to you when you say you have tried and have not found. I know that I almost (and almost assuredly) gave up entirely before I found. I was at that brink of giving up.

So I wouldn't know exactly what to say.

>>135741125
You didn't even begin to answer me. I'm asking you to give a secular argument for free-will. Knowing the future has nothing to do with determinism... you're too stupid to understand the difference between determinism and fatalism yet accuse me of having a "nigger IQ".

>>135741291
I wasn't born in the right religion. I know my parents are going to hell and I know I can't save them.

>>135741349

You prayed to Christ and heard the call? You're going to need to elaborate. You heard a voice in your head? You felt that something was responding to you? I don't care how convincing you are, you're not going to proselytize to me and convince me when I've spent years trying to find something to believe in... I'm sure you'll say God is simply waiting to reveal himself to me? At least you admit your 'argument' is flimsy.

>>135741370
If you're asking for a physics equation that proves free-will, I cannot supply you with one.

>>135736982
which makes a statement about IQ not religion

is the critical thing people don't get

>>135741017
THAS RITE #FolkReligionsBTFO #DeathToPagans

>>135741017

thanks doc

>>135741502
I'd have to tell you the story of my life and you'd have no reason to believe a word of it. You're right, I don't think I can convince you. But I went back and forth between atheism to theism many times before I've come to where I am now, where I can no longer even deny God. Even if I am angry with Him and upset with Him (which is foolish of me), I cannot deny Him.

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>chart goes only to 110
wew lad
That research goes to trash. There's this thing called mount stupid. The more you know, the more opinionated you are and they're dumb opinions because you don't know enough to really get it.

"High IQ" atheists are that mount.

>>135741859

If coming to faith in God depends only on one's life story then that 'God' is very unconvincing and does not reach all people. How one goes between atheism and theism without ever displaying or acknowledging the humility of their own capabilities and understanding of the universe is interesting. You could have been lead to your beliefs by anything really, all of which were out of your control but to admit this completely undermines the possibility of a God who has any concern for you. For all I know you're mentally ill. Good luck finding happiness in this life though, I think it's the only one you have.

>>135742083
They're measuring countries not individuals. The fact you can't read a basic chart is pretty embarassing... also, the willingness to opine says nothing about the stance on a particular topic, yet I believe you're attempting to apply that it does by ascertaining that only those on "mount stupid" are those vocal "high IQ atheists" when we know how vocal religious people are. So basically, what I'm saying is, you posted a chart that contributes nothing to the argument and actually makes you look stupid.

>>135742156
But then again you do not know my life and you do not know anyone's life outside your own. Assumptions are dangerous things. I do not know why God did not personally reach you. I do not know your life.

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>>135736982
*and did those feet teleport behind you in ancient times*

>>135741859
Don't know your age, but people tend to become more religious as they get older -- as death becomes a reality. Also, fluid intelligence declines. That may be a factor as well.

>>135742356
>They're measuring countries
It doesn't say that. Might be any group whatsoever. Lrn2reed senpai

>>135742379
You also don't know if God even cares that he has or hasn't "reached" me, yet I assume you profess to know he does when you claim your parents are hell bound. I'm not assuming anything about your life or what's happened to you other than that you sound (when you accuse your parents of being hell bound) like a literalist and schizophrenic who claims to have been reached by a God that amazingly hasn't reached out to the vast majority of humans not only living today but throughout history.

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>>135742493
It's by country.

>>135742493
Everyone who bothered to source the information knows they are country IQ's from Richard Flynn's IQ and wealth of nations. Less laziness before you feel the need to speak, senpai. Also, you didn't tackle the main point of my argument.... but I know that's because you understand what I'm saying and don't disagree. XOXO

>>135742414
Very logical, and yes it does happen. Me personally, I'm not that old.

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>>135742666
Why would I source a low effort shitpost thread though?
But I see, yes, high IQ countries industrialized first and the demon of degeneracy ended their spiritual well being first.

>>135736982
First of all, what is that supposed to represent? What does percentage atheist mean?
Second, that graph shows that 10-20% atheist (whatever that means) has the highest intelligence, while it drops from there. 10% atheist would still mean 90% religious.

>>135742766

This is my favorite part when you claim to know what it was like to live in, and the reasons for the existence of, some fantastical era where there was no 'degeneracy'. Low effort, low energy so disappointing :(

>>135736982
Where is this data from? Haiti?

>>135742574
Well I don't claim to be special in any way. Anyone can reach God. Like I said, I was at brinks before all my denial was removed. And even then, it was sort of a punishment because I had started to blaspheme God. (Don't blaspheme God, that is not the point).

It would do no good for God to reveal Himself to everyone. Believe me when I say this, most would not even care unless God began to rule like a tyrant over people and force them into worship, and God is evidently not interested in this. God is only interested in those that would pain-stakingly try to reach Him of their own volition.

>Yeah, sure, that's why He threatens everyone with Hell for not believing in Him

Hell only becomes a reality for you when you have already accepted God to begin with, it was never really a proper motivator. Hell is as dismiss-able as God to the unbeliever, it does not matter.

>>135743017
You're taking the piss. All high IQ countries in the world got a heavy dose of enlightenment theology, female emancipation and modernism in general. I don't need to know your country.
If your point is that degeneracy existed prior, of course it had. It was not institutionalized nor an official ideology.

Also you hadn't disproven my mount stupid since there are no countries that on average go over IQ 125 at least.

>>135742613
They seem to ignore the fact that all of the countries on the far left are Muslim or African countries.

>>135743276

I wasn't attempting to disprove it, I'm saying you're using it incorrectly, because a highly knowledgeable person willing to opine on a particular subject says nothing about what stance they take on that subject and I'm saying you didn't prove that the hump of mount stupid represents 'high IQ' atheists.

Knowledge on a particular subject also has NOTHING to do with a person's IQ. You could have an IQ above 160 and no nothing about football, thus never talk about it.

I'm saying it's not even remotely applicable to this thread and for some reason you aren't grasping that, which makes me wonder how intelligent you actually are.

>>135736982
>religiosity is negatively correlated with IQ
Damn now let's separate it by race. It's easy making shill threads.

>>135743372

Who also are the most religious countries.... which they don't ignore, but you apparently are?

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>>135736982
Friendly reminder that high IQ is evolutionarily maladaptive because it leads to high tech low birth rate societies that end up abolishing themselves with elaborate ideologies while 60 IQ Kalahari Bushmen niggers continue to pop up kids without anyone thinking about it.

Yes apparently you can be to smart for your own good.

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>>135742613
In other words, it's about race.

>>135743442

What does that prove? That religious whites are the equals of niggers, beaners and arabs? Ha ha, ok, tell me something I didn't already know.

>>135743472
It's completely irrelevant. If all of African became atheist, they would still have IQs in the 70s.

>>135743546
No if the study was done in America which is most likely they probably tested a lot of nigger too (maybe even on purpose).

>>135743616
They're not going to though, because they have IQs in the 70s. We live in reality not your hypotheticals. Are you even trying?

>>135743616
They're still on the phase of hitting stones together and believing in tribal shit. We at least developed a monotheistic religion around 2 millenia back.

>>135743624
You still haven't figured out where this study has taken place yet you feel the need to comment?

See >>135743521

>>135740538
https://youtu.be/ASUHN3gNxWo

>>135743676
That has little bearing on anything. People from similar cultures have the same IQs, regardless of whether or not they're religious. America is a prime example, where whites have the same IQs as their European counterparts, but are far more religious.

And I'm saying this as an atheist.

>>135738349
>and degenerate.
Tell me more faggot.

>>135736982
Fucking idiots, god doesn't have to be a man in the sky. It could be an alien life form, or a type of particle, or a type of energy.

>>135743736
I'm proud of Italy tbqh. How do you even measure "religiosity" though?

>>135743616
Key word, IF.

>>135743798

Not really, the lowest achieving American whites (simply look at SAT/ACT scores or income brackets or state by state) are the most religious. Also, irreligiosity in Europe is a modern phenomena and white Americans are trending in the same direction albeit slightly behind, for those cultural reasons you maintain but nonetheless they will end up in the same place... you're watching something in transition. We aren't seeing that transition in Africa or South America.

1500 IQ here proudly serving the lord

>>135743402
But it does. It's well known that very high IQ people tend to believe in God more than moderately intelligent men. And there's a reason for this. People who process that much information are more capable by default to get some ideas. I think it may be fair to compare it to the idea of how easy it is ti deconstruct, to destroy in comparison to construct, create. To intellectually grapple with the idea of God is much harder than to deny thru scientific reductionism. You don't need to have a personality or to read much for that. Even IQ is enough in many cases.

Also, it ain't just IQ that correlates. Czech are atheist because their national identity is predicated on brutal wars with Catholic Church, even though their culture is anti-thesis to Protestant culture. Thus, leading them to be agnostic as a nation.

There you have it. IQ and belief in God correlate with the rising trend among genius level people.
And IQ and atheism are not in an intimate relationship. They fluctuate because of culture and only correlate due to global movements pushing an atheistic philosophy and lifestyle.

>>135736982
Do animals believe in god?

>>135738167
This is 100% true.

The left is actually full of 100-120 IQ individuals. Smarter people who are great at following commands and memorizing what they're told. These people are the bulk of society, the true masses. They are the most prone to brainwashing on a societal level and believe they're smarter than the rest of the pack.

Give me brainlets any day.

>>135744332

Really? This is how you debate? What a clown you are.

>It's well known that very high IQ people tend to believe in God more than moderately intelligent men.

First of all, no it's not. You can't simply define what it means to be brilliant or 'very high IQ" then profess to know the religious beliefs of all these brilliant people without supplying any evidence. Like most people, you will argue to people of the past who didn't have access to the same information that people have access to today, so once you show me concrete proof that this is true without cherry-picking Muh Newton then please get back to me.

>There you have it. IQ and belief in God correlate with the rising trend among genius level people.

You're kidding right? Another claim with no evidence. Sorry buddy but this is transparent and the lowest form of argument I've seen in this thread.

>>135744615
Pipe down heretic.

>>135736982
>atheism counted in percentage
>no source
Alright man.

>>135744615
Ramanujan

Another super genius that had theistic views.

>>135744571

People between 100 and 120 IQ are not "the masses." You're talking about people between the mean and about one SD above the mean which is FULL of people on the right too.

>They are the most prone to brainwashing on a societal level and believe they're smarter than the rest of the pack.

As opposed to the people below the mean who we KNOW aren't smarter than the rest of the pack?

There are brilliant theists and brilliant atheists and then there are brilliant people who are spiritual but know they can't begin to comprehend what a God even is, but laugh at the barbaric iron age fairy tales and neo biblical literalists of the modern day that has a massive following among those on the "right" who definitely according to you aren't prone to brainwashing because they have IQs in the 80s and 90s and by the way, the vast majority of these people in the U.S. are white.

>>135744615
>You can't simply define what it means to be brilliant or 'very high IQ"
I didn't define it. It's officially defined as 130+ IQ. And there's more people who believe in God in 130+ range than in the 110-120 range. You should know this. Seriously. I can check for a study because I know there are some, but don't hold your breath for a response with all those delicious citations you won't probably even read. Collecting them takes time and I'm not autistic enough to keep everything as delicious pasta for people like you.

>>135744851

Yes, this proves that genius level IQ people all believe in a deity nevermind that half the christcucks in this thread have been trying to claim it's culture and not IQ, wew the cognative dissonance.

>>135744900
>People between 100 and 120 IQ are not "the masses."
If you move in higher tiers of people in society, then yes, they are. These people just work a bit more intellectually demanding jobs than hillbillies. Retards do manual jobs, "above average" faggots do desk jobs.

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>>135744940
I should know it? Prove it. I'm waiting.... go check for your study because it doesn't exist. I'm waiting.

>>135745037
No because 34.1% of people can't be considered "the masses" you fucking idiot.

>>135744968
Spazzes out when confronted with evidence of true super geniuses believing in God.

>>135744900
Brainlets are controlled by their immediate surrounding. They aren't beholden to their friends, family, and close community.

The 100-120 iq masses are smart enough to fall for propoganda by playing on their desire to climb societal ladders.

>>135745171
They are beholden*

They aren't beholden to societal whims, however as that would require them to think outside their box.

>>135745129
If you're not the top few percent, you're a part of the mass. Pleb.

>>135745045
Here, have a low effort rundown of the most intelligent men alive. Site seems to be shit tier, but the list is credible.
http://www.scottmsullivan.com/out-of-the-top-10-most-intelligent-people-in-the-world-at-least-8-think-god-exists-and-6-are-believing-christians/

>>135745143
Nobody is spazzing out. There are geniuses that don't believe in a God. Please remind me of the Gods that Ramanujan believes and his level of religiosity, because according to any Christian his Gods were the wrong ones which really defeats the purpose of bringing him up, I mean unless you're an orthodox Hindu.

>>135745143
again, believing in god or a higher power and believing and following abrahamic scriptures like a retard without questioning anything ARE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS

>>135744332
>To intellectually grapple with the idea of God is much harder than to deny thru scientific reductionism.
Many of these high-IQ individuals who believe in a God do not view it as a man with a beard, seated upon his throne. They see it as this all-encompassing force that drives the universe, and they use organized religion as a metaphor. Is that even a belief in God?

>>135745389
>Many of these high-IQ individuals who believe in a God do not view it as a man with a beard, seated upon his throne
Nor does Christianity unless you're a memetestant. Except for metaphors like that used in prayers.

>Christians are stu-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_Nobel_laureates

>According to 100 Years of Nobel Prize (2005), a review of Nobel prizes awarded between 1901 and 2000, 65.4% of Nobel Prize Laureates, have identified Christianity in its various forms as their religious preference (427 prizes).[5] Overall, Christians have won a total of 78.3% of all the Nobel Prizes in Peace, 72.5% in Chemistry, 65.3% in Physics, 62% in Medicine, 54% in Economics and 49.5% of all Literature awards.[6]

>The three primary divisions of Christianity are Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, and Protestantism. Between 1901 and 2000 it was revealed that among 654 Laureates 31.9% have identified as Protestant in its various forms (208 prize), 20.3% were Christians (no information about their denominations; 133 prize), 11.6% have identified as Catholic and 1.6% have identified as Eastern Orthodox.[7] Although Christians make up over 33.2% of the world's population,[8][9][10][11] they have won a total of 65.4% of all Nobel prizes between 1901 and 2000.[6]

>According to Scientific Elite: Nobel Laureates in the United States by Harriet Zuckerman, a review of American Nobel prizes awarded between 1901 and 1972, 72% of American Nobel Prize laureates identified a Protestant background.[12] Overall, 84.2% of all the Nobel Prizes awarded to Americans in Chemistry, 60% in Medicine, and 58.6% in Physics between 1901 and 1972 were won by Protestants.[12]

>>135744851
Most great mathematicians from before believed in god. Euler the greatest of all believed in him but voltaire did not, i am pretty sure euler is the smarter.

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>>135736982
Thanks in full to Islamic retards as well as dumb animist niggers and barbaric "catholic" Mexican/Central/South Americans who fuck the curve up for everyone else.

>>135745270
That's a lot of

'apparently' and 'allegedly' furthermore, the original article is nowhere to be found and it's not an actual scientific study nor does it serve to prove that people of an IQ over 130 are more likely to believe in a God. You're asking me to take some 2nd hand blurb on the internet at its word. You know I'm not going to.

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>>135745611
Do you know how locked behind paywalls are scientific journals? It'll be a miracle if I can find you a non-meme study. Meanwhile, take that list or >>135745510 as an indication that religious people are very common among geniuses.

>>135745389
Yeah but who can pretend to even begin to know if that's true or not or even if it's important? Religiosity is not "theosity."

>>135736982
>stupid and smart people are religious
>smart people are atheist
This just shows religion is more likely to be correct. It shows the natural tendency is to believe in God while atheism requires rationalization. It is typical that an atheist would be too stupid to recognize this.

>>135745389
My point is that they're not literal creationists.

>>135745718
Yes, and they're even more common among niggers in Africa. What's your point?

>>135745883

Then for a person attempting to defend a particular religion or its associated dogma and requirements, what is the point of even bringing these completely non-descript theists up?

>>135745920
Atheists are just smart enough that they can rationalize natural law and common sense away without being strong enough to resist the Cathedral's brainwashing.

>>135745851
>a correlation between secularity and high IQ has been observed
>therefore religion is correct
You could be a contender for the olympic gold in mental gymnastics.

>>135745314
Ramanujan was a Hindu believer, but this topic is about atheists supposedly having a higher IQ which is bullshit. Atheists are on the low end of spectrum when you remove niggers and sand-niggers.

Also, if you are into the deeper levels of Christianity then you'd understand other religions as basically demonic worship, which legitimizes cases like Ramanujan, in a way. Characters like Zeus and Shiva are basically Enochian style Nephilim and Anunnaki. Basically, fallen angels impersonating God or Gods. Jews had their own (Azazel) but were clever enough to not fall into worshipping them like the others did. But, I digress, this is for deep level Christians anyway.

>>135746448
Nevermind the fact that stupid apes having the tendency to believe in something without taking the time to rationalize isn't exactly the most glowing endorsement of religion.

>>135746481

>Atheists are on the low end of the spectrum when you remove niggers and sand-niggers.

Patently false.

>Characters like Zeus and Shiva are basically Enochian style Nephilim and Anunnaki. Basically, fallen angels impersonating God or Gods. Jews had their own (Azazel) but were clever enough to not fall into worshipping them like the others did. But, I digress, this is for deep level Christians anyway.

Wow, "deep level Christianity" sounds a lot like works of fiction

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>>135746514
>>135746640

>>135746514
>Nevermind the fact that stupid apes having the tendency to believe in something without taking the time to rationalize isn't exactly the most glowing endorsement of religion.
Pure instinct is superior to whatever fifth rate brand of dawkins nonsense the mediocrities spew.

>>135741017
Why is hinduism there? where is it hindu?

>>135742613
well that answers that

>>135746640
You'd have to be low IQ anyway to not believe in God. The answers should have been right there in your life had you recognized the patterns.

Isn't that what IQ is after all? Pattern recognition? No wonder super geniuses like Sir Isaac Newton and Ramanujan were privy to it.

>>135746757
Yeah the instincts of niggers and other savages is superior to the science and understanding of the world around us being driven by whites. How do you type with drool all over your keyboard?

>>135746878

That's clearly not it though considering the billions of savages who believe in a god and have an IQ less than 75.

>>135746640
>Christianism is not demon worship
How so? Old testament God was demonic as fuck in nature. You'd even bargain with him as you do with other regular daemons. The only difference is that this particular entity wished that you deny all others and worship only him.

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>>135746901
Well yeah. They may rape and ooga booga, but they will have kids in the end. Atheism is actually dying because atheists aren't having kids. They're stupid enough to repress the need to breed and "intellectual" enough to rationalize not having kids.

>>135747084
>Atheism is actually dying because atheists aren't having kids.

Doesn't prove anything other than belonging to religion and growth of adherence is through indoctrination of children, thank you for telling us all what we already know. Islam is also the fastest growing religion on the planet, does that mean that the future of humanity is better off? Africa is the fastest growing continent on earth, does that mean the future of humanity is better off with religion?

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>>135747084
I'm not a neck-beard either, nor am I atheist and I have two children myself.

>>135747207
>Islam is also the fastest growing religion on the planet
No sweetie, it's not. Christianity is.

But there you have it folks - instead of recognizing atheists don't follow the natural law, he belittles people who do follow it in an attempt to show how natural law is stupid. You're an evolutionary dead end mate.

>>135746973
I wouldn't be surprised if God made it easier for low IQ savages to realize it and made it appropriately harder for ones with higher IQ.

In that case, what is your excuse? God planted the seeds throughout your life for you to come into belief. Why have you failed to see it? No man is without excuse.

>>135747274
clearly a homo though.

>>135747303
My excuse? I have no excuse other than I'm apparently too retarded to see all these glorious patterns that he laid out for me to discover Him and the one true faith. I guess I'm doomed, but I'll take my chances. Either He gives me some great evidence or he does what he wishes to me when I die. I honestly don't ever worry about it.

>>135747373
Yeah clearly, with a wife and 2 kids... somebody is internalizing and projecting, or maybe even jealous, such petty emotions for a Christcuck

>>135736982
Sauce?

>>135747419
That's the smartest thing I've seen you say.

God bless you.

>>135736982

IQ isn't the measure of all things. I'm sure you could correlate a lot of negative and maladaptive traits to high iq people. IQ doesn't accounts for a fraction of a person.

>>135747207
kek a democuck

>>135747463
>thinks I'm jealous of him
>obviously thinks highly of himself

careful bruh.

Also

>gays can't have kids, apparently
>Fucking low IQ Christcucks

>>135747303
>I wouldn't be surprised if God made it easier for low IQ savages to realize it and made it appropriately harder for ones with higher IQ.
Well that's exactly what it is. Knowledge is power and with power comes more responsibility. There's a reason Satan's greatest sin is pride.

Scientific method is only one tool in the toolbox with which we interact with reality. It's useful for rational inquiry, but rationality is predicated on the axiom that reality is logical. We know that axioms can't be proven, therefore, unless we collect all knowledge in the world, we don't have a definitive proof reality is consistent. And even if we had all data, who would be able to verify it all through his own faculties. And even then, how can he have faith in his own faculties with which he interacts with the world?
Without our subjective experience of the world we are not living beings and with it, faith is inherently necessary to connect to the world. Beyond that, we can only believe in science if we predicate it with an axiom that logic is real and there's an unmoving point outside reality which keeps it true.

Therefore a benevolent God is a necessity.

>>135747518
Somebody is upset they come from the child molesting occult known as the Cuckolic Church. How deeply was that homosexual bug forced into your ass I wonder? Just remember, it wasn't your fault.

>>135736982
>% atheist
What? You aren't even using disaggregated data?

>>135747624
Says the guy who literally looks like a homosexual child diddler.

>>135747579
There's a lot I have going for me in my life that you don't have and probably never will have, but remember, it doesn't matter because when you die you will be whisked off to Heaven to spend eternity with your family, child-hood pets doing as you please in Heaven.

>>135747729

Child molesters don't have a 'look'. Chances are great that you're a victim of CSA and a fat mess now, don't worry eternity of bliss awaits you upon your death. Haha

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>>135747624
wew lad

>>135747735
Religion is a serious deal. There's many restrictions and being religious is much harder than being atheist. No structure built as opium for the masses would hang eternal damnation and immense responsibility for your every action over you. Your post is predicated on the idea that it's a comfy fantasy, which is wrong.
By the way, pets don't have immortal souls. They're probably not gonna be in Heaven.

>>135747866
I guess that depends on which of the 50 versions of Christianity you believe in, or whether Christianity is correct.

>>135747735
You're actually nothing compared to me. I'm taller and more attractive than you and could probably convince your kid's mother to cheat on you with me. I graduated from UC Berkeley, and I don't think I could say anymore without some specialist in the CIA doxxing me. Thank you for your condolences for the after life, but I'm afraid I can't say the same for you. It seems as thought God rejected you for some reason. Perhaps it's because you only had a passing interest in the subject and didn't properly NoFap for lent.

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>>135747990
This is the standard SJW argument of "colors aren't real because we don't know the exact place one stops and other begins so we can't have this discussion"

Now go shill for Hillary somewhere else, kike.

>>135740021

Knowing things you cant know is not a sign of intelligence. Its a sign of delusion.

>>135748734
>Faith never rewarded anyone

>>135748810
I did not say this. Faith is not knowledge tho. Its just a hope. A delusion. Being a criminal also rewarded some people.

Faith also is correlated with hope so an optimistic outlook on things in a dire situation can be helpful.

>>135749056
The knowledge is secretive.

You can't even talk about it without God punishing you.

That's why many fall short of any actual explanation.

There are reasons higher than simple delusion people like Isaac Newton and Ramanujan had for believing in a higher power. They would have recognized and ruled out simple delusion.

Idk.

If you're 25 and you haven't grown out of your lolatheism days of your teen years then there might be no hope for you.

>>135747990
>50 versions
there are only 2 versions of all religion
the messiah was here, or there is no messiah
atheists, muslims, and jews are the latter

>>135749433

I do not need approval for my life from you.

Are you telling me that god told you a secret and you verified it to be true somehow and if you tell this secret anyone god will punish you ?

Isaac Newton was born in a deeply religious society. If you are brainwashed since childhood there is often no way to think independently on the issue.

Which is why I dont think religious people are generally dumber. I might have been religious too if my social surroundings were strongly religious and my parents would have gone with me to church.

I generally do not have faith in anything that did not prove itself to me or that I cant verify it works.

If someone tells me of a good investment opportunity. No matter how great that guy is. I will be extremly sceptical. I dont take anything on faith.

>>135749955
Faith doesn't really take too much of an investment to see an initial return.

The difficulty will ramp up after this, and your involvement with it will be of your own free-will. But the reward is eternal life.

>>135749688
Dont jews thinkt that there will be a messiah ? Also dont muslims think that.

I can be Amoonist. That means I do not believe there is a moon. That doesnt mean this is a religion.

Atheism is simply the claim "There is not sufficent evidence to warrant the belief in a god"

Not more not less.

>>135750141
>If God exists, He made no way of us finding Him. So I will not bother to try.

>>135736982

Official 143, devout Roman catholic.
Please stop spreading your narrative-driven pseudo-science. Thank you and God bless.

>>135746994
Pls respond

>>135750339
Why would I try ? If there is a demi god living on jupiter. Should I also try and find him ? Also you can try but how can you find him if there is no way of verifying his existence ?

I will not find a needle somewhere on the globe that I do not even know if it exists.

>>135750586
If you're talking about Jacob then God wasn't exactly pleased with him trying to strike a bargain.

>>135750894
>knowing before faith
Negates the whole point. But you don't have to lol. No one is saying you have to. You can live exactly how you please.

>>135750987
Offerings. Sacrifices. You sacrifice lambs to God among other things. The Greeks did it too. They considered it either an offering or an exchange.

>>135736982
Being religious and having faith is two different things

I do believe in god and shit
but I don't belong to any religion, I have my very own personal view of the world and how it works

Being a free thinker correlate with being smart

>>135751067

Faith will not lead to truth unless by sheer luck.

Maybe you are unlucky and actually Allah is the real version of god. Or Zeus or maybe Mormons got it right.

I just try to understand the reasoning behing faith. And I cant find any logic in it. Well people are generally not logical so I guess I am not surprised by people with faith.

Faith is not a virtue. Its a flaw in my opinion.

>>135742405
Friendly reminder that the ANGLO is descended directly from God.

>>135736982
I am a christian and my IQ is 140, point?

>>135751498

Exactly none. Typical fedora pseudo-science to fit a narrative and further destroy Christianity.

>>135736982
>WTF?... It only goes to 110

Probably for women?

>>135751332
They all got it right to some extent.
Mostly all religions are a mishmash of superstition, moralfaggotry, history, philosophy for numbskulls and advanced metaphysics and science for babbies. Oh, and don't forget the mistranslations and changes to make it suit someone's interests. Go ahead, find the truth.

>>135743521
plausible

>>135751616
I don't think people understand why religion is so widespread. I have had unexplainable expirences ( talking to someoen i my faily about demons and we got a phone call from a random number and the number immediately hung up, as almost a demon was tryign to disrrract us) and, as a matter of fcgt, life as whole is unexplainable, and even if Christainity is fake (which I dont think it is but whatever), what do you have to lose?

>>135743521
isnt america's average iq like 100 even with niggers? also, asians study for their IQ tests.. so that is a bit unfair.

>>135751853

Exactly. Some 2 weeks ago I started to pray the Rosary again and since that time, the most amazing things have been happening.
A life without Christ is a life without love and I feel pity for those that reject it knowlingly.

To me it's just some sort of dunning krueger-like kind of effect.

Lesser IQs tend to believe in god because it's an easy way to understand the world. When IQ goes up, people tend to be atheist. But at a certain IQ threshold, people tend to contemplate the existence of god, or at least a higher being, because they run out of answers for their questions and the existence of a higher being fulfill the void.

>>135752391
Not necessarily. Perhaps God is the answer they find after years of research.

What does % atheist means?
Was this conducted on groups or individuals?

>>135752578
Yeah, that's what's implied. The more you know, the more you're aware you don't actually know much and it opens the possibility of explanation.
It's like dunning kruger effect in a way, people who know a bit tend to believe they're hot shit on a topic and that they're right and they will be virulent when talking about subjects like God.

Also another thing, I think is very important, is pride. When you really seek for answers, you let pride aside and accept any form of answer to your question, because that's what you actually look for. A physicist that studied science all is life has more unanswered questions than he had when he started studying/researching in his field. For example he will be amazed by god's creation and wonder "how the fuck did this even happen" or "why is it all in order like that".
Meanwhile, social """sciences""" studies will have less unanswered question than when he started studying the field, because the whole point of his curriculum is learning stupid shit and apply them as some sort of interpretation grid for explaining things.

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>>135736982
Any Faggot can put dots on a graph anon, forfty percent of all people know that.

See pic for more info.

In the end, it's just a social study faggot finding a correlation between two imaginary social sciences scales that are IQ and %age of atheism (wtf...).

>>135753693
>(((social sciences)))
Are we in a tunnel because I think I heard an echo?

>>135754245
I don't understand what you imply. I never said it was jewish.

>>135754487
It isn't in itself but it has been dominated by the tribe for the last 80 years.

>>135754881
Oh, right, I didn't understand your post that way. I can't argue with the matter of fact you're stating. Though I think "social sciences" are only derivative of philosophy with the premise of scientific study of philosophical subjects.