Give me one good reason why Finland shouldn't own this.

>>135722203
they lost

Because Finland doesn't even exist

>>135722545
Only because they had most of the West helping russoniggers invade them.

It's not even Finland's. It's the Karelians.

Most Karelians migrated to Finland/Sweden after Russia fucked them over.

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>>135722203
Finland should own all of russia, the Rus were finnish sailors.

>>135722689
France and Britain were going to send troops to Finland but Sweden refused to allow it to happen.

Blame the Swedes.

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>>135722641
tpbp
stop falling for Jew lies about (((Finland))) you bluepilled faggot

>>135722841
Give me one resson how russians would live worse under finnish rule, minimum.salrary would increase exponentially, better infastructure, better schools, better administration etc..

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>>135723110
Ebin meme my friend.

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>>135723665
>believing whatever you read on kikepedia
kek, you dumb goy faggot. The Jews love idiots like you.

>>135724156
Okay reddit.

>>135722741
We're the same people. Much more so than the Estonians are.

>>135722203

Because it isn't strong enough to take it?

>>135722203
because they don't.

Russian subhumans have ruined the area

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>>135722203
I can't but I can give you a good reason why it should. If they did, Finland would look like a mumin.

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>>135722203
because a military power larger than them occupies it?

>>135728126

It's almost as if one's claims to land, rights or agreements made are worthless unless they can be enforced.

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We dont want it back, it would take too much to derussiafy the area and no-one would wanna move there anyways. Could be a good spot for muslim deathcamps

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>>135728284
yes and? You understand that is the entire concept behind instating Terra Nullis.

>>135728870

yes I do

I am in agreement with you, I made that unclear, I see.

am fucking idiot.

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IT IS THE LAND OF FOREFATHERS! DIRTY RED PIGS.

NEVER FORGIVE AND NEVER FORGET VIIPURI!


DEATH TO THE TRAITOR

>>135722203
come with one why they should.
You propose so burden is on you, faggot

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>>135727945

stack them up like forefathers did! that great boil on the world needs to be popped

>>135729404

> supporting c-mmunists

kill yourself you dirty fucking rat

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>>135729078
this is a 18+ board, leave. YOU ARE REDDIT.

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THE LION WILL FLY

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>>135728622
>monolopy

oh you

>>135729483
ok, so your sole argument is "so russia does not have it". fine, but still not and arugument why FINLAD should have it.

>>135722203

Do Finns really want more land full of Russians?

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>>135729796

dumb goober doesnt know shit about shit. fuck off before you get gutted

>>135729889
More kills on their stat trak sniper rifles!

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>>135722394
first post weird post

>>135730021
like not knowing that finlad is basicaly artifical state?

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>>135722741

karelians are the sons of finland. they gave the identity to finland. they are the real finnmen

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>>135730387

> artificial

sure is extra chromosome in here. nice flag ya got there, commie pig

>>135722203
Because might makes right - or at the very least, it makes what is. "Should" has nothing to do with anything.

>>135731383

thats flat out retarded

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>>135722203
Because they cant take it back and hold it.

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>>135732710

funny coming from a country that got steam rolled like ideal cucks

>>135732909
Yep. So?

>>135722203
Because they never-ever owned it. Basically the same reason why some random state shouldn't own some random piece of territory.

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>>135723110
Fugg

>>135733009

so? no "so" about it rapeshit

>>135733626

retarded: the post

>>135722203
They never owned it.
Karelia is a different story though.

>>135722203
Because they'd have to take in all the Russians that live there.

>>135722203
>Varangerfjorden Finish

What kind of map is

>>135733669
What?

>>135722203
we should

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>>135722741
Karelians are just one of the Balto-Finnic tribes. They are exactly as much Finnic as all other Finnics.

>>135733626
One day we will take what is rightfully ours.

>>135722203
Might makes right.

>>135722969
thats bullshit

sweden was neutral

the allies failed to help us and sided with the fucking communists

>>135733885
Let's just call it interest

>>135734119
Is that a deceleration of war?

>>135729889
you expell the Russians

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>>135722641
Yeah Finland doesn't exist all finnish posters are jap and ruskie spies obviously.

>>135734016
>One day we will take what is rightfully ours.
Russians are the descendants of most of Finno-Ughric Tribes. We are imperial and powerful state.
By a simple logic, as far as pan-Finnism is concerned, a tiny and young Finland should render unto Russia, as it did historically.

>>135734064

hey fenno swede, whatcha doin

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>>135734229

allied intelligence is second to none I have you know.

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>>135722394

We just have to wait another russian revolution and then annex the shit out of it, and why stop there? Take the whole cunt
>how to make greater finland

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>>135734459
I wouldn't join you in a thousand years.

>>135734459

you dirty pieces of shit didnt even claim your dead. s*alin left them to rot in the hot summer like the scum they were. shameful, disgusting rats. and in all reality it was probably hard to undo piles of dead 10ft high. if you did claim and bury them, you got just enough land to bury them. kruschev in his personal memoirs even shamed how devastating it was. probably dont teach you that in 2nd world dumpster eater land tho

One extreme option would be to leave the EU and join the Russian Federation as an autonomous state.

I think Russia would be more than happy to cede that entire region to Finland in exchange for us securing the NE front.

>>135722203
Do they need it?

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>>135734918

what an absolutely disgusting ideology

>>135734931
There isnt much there except some small mineral resources far as I know.

It would however open Finlands access to arctic oil.

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>>135734563

>>135735030
Depends on how EU treats us.

Russia is technically a federation of states, not dissimilar to Germany in structure.

Finland could operate as an autonomous region/state in the federation as many others do now.

>>135734918
You sicken me.

>>135722203
Its majority Russian.

>>135734918
Tapa itsesi

>>135734918
This is what happens when you don't shoot all the reds and let them breed instead.

>>135735220
lets be honest.

our interrsts align with russia far more than with europe.

>>135722203
They don't own it.

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>>135735205

stop while youre way behind sympathizer

Just play War Thunder if you want to win back Karelia

>>135735285
>>135735296
Do you like the EU?

Its sanctions on Russia are harming us the most in Europe.

Remember realpolitik

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>>135735220

he sickens us both, brother

>>135735316
they arent communist anymore

>>135728870
Damn nigger you is retarded

>>135734459
>tiny finland
actually its called eastern Sweden.

>>135735412
US sidnt do shit to help Finland.

Instead you sided with tye fucking soviets and made us pay them reparations and cede land.

You are the traitors.

>>135734760
implying some one would bother to ask you if you are willing to.

>>135722203

Because this area has never been Finland.

>>135734918
>one extreme option
I have never heard of anyone wanting that. Only ones who ever say that are pro-EU kikes with their retarded "what, you wanna leave EU. You wanna join Russia or what? You think that's better, Putin troll."
Like there never were the 3rd option aka the first, independent.

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>>135735536

you should really stop

>>135735051
Petsamo was the single most valuable mine, containing vast amounts of Ni. Granpa was a manager there during the war. It paid for most of our business with the germans, he was even granted the civilian iron cross. It's mostly mined out and a total enviromental disaster now.

>>135735610
>>135735030

piss on your mother and fathers face

>>135735392
No i do not like eu, but why would i ever wanna join russia? Are you retard? Go home kotiryssä

>>135735471

hahahahahahahahahahahah aaaah naive, retard

>>135735552

youre right. your ""people"" line up to eat out of dumpsters. you are disgusting pieces of shit.

>>135735552
Every vote counts, except maybe in your land.

>>135735675

go away you warmonger shill

>>135723194
well that's not going to happen, so whatever

>>135735640
how can one man be so based?

>>135734495
Fennoswedes are finns, not swedes.Their president during the war, Mannerheim, was a fenno. Sweden did not know how to deal with the situation.

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>>135735854

go away you disgusting, traitorous piece of shit.

get back in the woods and headshot like your fathers before you

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>>135735922

OH WOW REALLY?! TELL ME AGAIN

>>135722203

this is the most retard thread

>>135735640
You faggots sided with the Soviets and didn't help us.

You are the traitors.

>>135736055

the only thing retarded is your thought process, s-viet sympathizer

>>135736186

> u-u-u-uh you didnt help us from the s-viets!
> hehehe lets join r-ssia! they will sure make isanmaa a better place!

GEE WHOS BEHIND THIS POST

>>135736192
why should you care about this anyway?
'b-but duh c-commies!'
they fought for it.
I'm not a fan of communism myself but fucking hell.

>>135735628
I dont think independence is an option.

It will just result in us being isolated and alone when shit hits the fan again whilst Russia/EU use us as a way to harm each other at our expense.

>>135736331
Its a fact.

You traitors allied with the Soviets.

>>135736017
Sweden is a nation of asslickers. In many towns you can found storages from the 40s containing SS uniforms, in case of Germany won. Are swedes the jews of Europe?

>>135736371

ah, yes. the britcuck thinks someone with 25 posts has no connection to the topic at hand. go suck nigels RT sympathizing dick, faggot

>>135736484
those are Finnish officers

>>135722203
I can't. Geographically they should have their border at the point with the smallest perimeter for defense/security reasons.

In its current state Kola/karelia are bordergore

>>135734459
Now if only russians could manage a state, or a city, or even a singular household. Why not put us in charge, Sergei? Russia could be turned into a functioning, prosperous society.

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Because that is rightful Karelian clay!

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>>135736484
>tfw we stayed "Neutral" white letting the Germans round up Swedish commies and Jews in camps

>>135736643

their leader is worth hundreds of billions. too bad he cant put some of that back into public works and job creation

>>135734918
Don't do that. Be /nordic union/ with us. You know we treat you real good baby.

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>>135737165
"Swedes we are no more,
Russians we cannot become,
therefore Finns we must be.

>>135723194
Taxes would rise, the land would be sold cheap and brainwashing would be western.

>>135737427

hey retard. whatcha doing

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>>135734459
>>135736643
I think a reasonable compromise would be
>Russia merges with Finland
>out with democracy
>Emperor of Finnish background instituted in capital city Nevanlinna (St. Petersburg)
>Finnish made official language and slavic-orcish culture replaced with superior culture

>>135731383
>"Should" has nothing to do with anything.
Wrong. Should is the ideal we compare things to. Weakness isn't determined by our ability to lift the sun, but our lack of the virtue of strength. The far right of the human potential bell curve.

>>135735030
Commies want us in EU.

>>135722203
The Russian Army

>>135737165
nordic would be my preference by far

ideal infact

finland like poland should not be a nation
they're definitely a seperate etnicity but,
that doesn't mean we should let ignore the fact
that finland is a product of instability of eastern europe
which will again and again drag the world into conflict

>>135737522
Telling the truth to people of e-hölmölä

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>>135737984
no, commies want you vulnerable. start using your head. "dont cut off your nose to spite your face"

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>>135738219

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>>135738219

hahahahahah everyone look at the retard and laugh

>>135738269
EU is about making us vulnerable. Just look at the border treaties, the sanctions (that hurt us more than the Russians)...
Kikes and Swedes hate the Russians, doesn't mean we should trust them, but hatred of our neighbors is unwarranted. Especially considering our language.

>>135738099

the who? get back in the dumpster

>>135738456

do you know what the ideal meaning of "neighbor" is? sure isnt those things to the east of you

>>135735641
Access to the arctic sea would see us having access to oil reserves there. This is also why Russia will never allow it to fall to our hands, nor anyone else's for that matter, ever. They'd go nuclear over it.

>>135733953
idk dude, half of the people on this site are either morons or children. Don't pay attention to this infighting bullshit.

>>135738798
Im legit angry about losing access to arctic.

Im also extremely angry about loss of access to Ladoga.

>>135738614
They are our primary tradepartner.

Russia in its modern form has done far FAR less ro fuck us than the EU has.

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>>135738269
Commies are infiltrating EU through Germany and Schultz. Germany hired ex-stasi agents to plan for future EU internet censorship system and even por-capitalist opinions are starting to be categorized as "right-wing hate-speech".

FYI just in case you didn't already know Stasi or Ministerium für Staatssicherheit was East-German version of the Soviet KGB but typically German meaning hell of a lot more efficient.

Our options:
-Stay in EU getting cucked.
-Go independent at great risk.
-NATO
-Nordic Union
-Fuck the West and join Russian Federation as autonomous state.

>>135734016
holy shit FINLAND STRONK

I fuckin love moomins, so you can basically do no wrong

>>135739394
There is evidence that Rurik whom founded Russia was a finnic viking royal with relations to the King of Norway.

Whilst other Vikings went to other locations, Rurik headed East from Finland and subsequently founded the Rurikid dynasty which rules Russia and allied Byzantium for hundreds of years.

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>>135722641
>Because Finland doesn't even exist
i've been to Finland.
story checks out.

>>135739220

internet censorship is the last thing anyone should be worried about. shit hits the fan way before "internet censorship".so if youre thinking at that point youre already done for

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>>135722203
OP is gone but someone must post this

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>>135740393

> someone must post this

>>135740227
Its just one of the many symptoms of the same disease and most blatant one where communist influences can be seen overtly.

>>135722203
Because it doesn't belong to them, other than Viipuri.
And Murmansk port despite being so far in the north, doesn't freeze whole year. Russians won't give up such things easily.

>>135722203

Mongolian rape-babies who should be fucking happy that we and Russia let them rule themselves. For now. Finns are fucking retarded

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I get behind them, it's traditional Finnish land.

>>135722841
They were Swedish sailors.
>>135728622
>we don't want it back
It was never yours, other than some parts.

>>135733715
>american education

>>135722641
this is the only real answer

The ocean in it's place is used as fishing waters for the Japanese

s*ede-s*viet rape baby in the flesh. please exterminate yourself

>>135740865

im not trying to hear your shit today u-shit

>>135740955

> dumpster eater anything

>>135740525
>>135722203
>le ebil ruskis argument
After fall of USSR, Karelia is ruled by muslim "mafia".
Saami are not finns.

>>135734918
I bet ahmed fucks your theoretical wife.

>>135741230
You are on "nationalistic" board. Why you so hatefull to other ethnicities?

>>135741255

i was just saying how can your leader be born poor and amass a 100+ billion dollar net worth? are your grandparents happy to eat out of dumpsters?

>>135741055
Japs pulled out when they found out there are no whales or tuna in the baltic. There is, however, an EU-demanded whale watcher who inspects the occasional dolphin who swam in because thermal flow reversed in the danish strait.

>>135741356

because i despise you

>>135722203
>implying we want to clean up Russia's mess just so the polite green men can take that land back 20 years later

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>>135741385
>how can your leader be born poor and amass a 100+ billion dollar net worth?
it's not theme of OP post

<--- le starving

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It's all gone thanks to russkies.
My granpa visited karelia after war and said he do not want to go back ever.
He said Russians who had taken our family farm were ashamed of themselves because in 15years they have managed literally fuck whole place up.
Inkeri + karelians OK = who speak finnish others are just laukkuryssa clowns, don't want them or any territory that might come with them.

>>135741901

ok, so on ops theme

>>135734765

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>>135742082

they are disgusting, vile rats.

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>>135742313

I have actual proof of their lack of sense:
Production levels of our family farm under our management compared under USSR golden solidarity days they fall more than 20 %.
In same time my granpa set up new farm and cross the border all, yes all has degenerated to shit meanwhile.
Fuck them.

>>135742163
I don't hear about this story.
For you, they are filthy commies anyway. Why you so butthurt?
Khrushchev was filthy politician who throw own crimes (during purges) on Stalin.
see: >>135742082
finns don't want Karelia.

>>135743792
Yeah because there ain't much left there that you didn't turn to shit.

>>135743879
After fall of USSR, all economy (already in crisis) collapsed. So you used situation to buy cheap resources and sell your goods to Saint-Petersburg and other places. Stop crying.

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>tfw Hitler lost

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It's not only because infrastructure is shit.
It has much to do all polluted acid rain forests and well general nigger tier property management.
With my granpas words:
Everything in Russia is shit except piss.

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>>135744840

nice pic

>>135722689
it was Finland that invaded Karelia though, as a thank you for being granted independence none the less
now I know Karelians, and they identify as and speak Ruski
eastern Scandi has and will always belong to the motherland

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>implying Finland is even real

>>135722841
WE

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>>135747545
WUZ

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Everything belongs to Russia

>>135741808
This. Kola is a nuclear mess and a disaster just waiting to happen.

>>135746694
What The fuck?

>>135748089
SNOWFAGGOTS

>>135740798
Nice cherrypicked picture, now neck yourself subhuman

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>>135749232
Go back to your shithut and shut up.

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>>135722641
>r****t opinion
harm yourself

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>>135748089
KHANZ

>>135749859
>Go back to your shithut and shut up.
Idi ty nahui suka

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>>135749904

>>135748858
Finland invaded Karelia in order to annex it after the empire fell to the commies and Finland was granted independence by Lenin (probably the only good thing he's ever done)

>>135740865
>>135722841
vikings were never particularly fin, swede, or dane, or whoever else. They had a different concept of borders back then

>>135733658
:DD

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>>135749921
Ain't you a mad cabbage?

>>135750018
Olen olen

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>>135730496

Better question is why the American Empire didn't control Cuba or the strip of land below California.

Gib Karelia, vanja

t. Чyхнa

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KD9pUf_15g

Gib Ural, suka

Tainted Russian land, would cost millions of tax euros to fix it so fuck that would rather take Petsamo back.

>>135722203
We lost the war. Luu kurkkuun. History is written by the victor

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>>135722841

>>135750110
w..why is tony abbot there?

wtf is that shitshow?

Mannerheim lost the war.

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>>135754660
Of course. He was a nigger!

>>135722969
No, fuck you, leaf. We couldn't officially help with our army because the King said "no fuck off". But we had a government sponsored program to help get volunteers to join the Finnish army to help out because the public majority wanted us to go to war with Russia for Finland .

>>135750010
>vikings were never particularly fin, swede, or dane, or whoever else. They had a different concept of borders back then

Horseshit.

>>135744840
but even piss is shit when you piss into the wind.

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>>135734918
>T. marco de wit

>>135754867
I forgot this was a thing...

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>>135732909
Soon...

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>>135737165
fuck off pussified cunts

>>135741255
>After fall of USSR, Karelia is ruled by muslim "mafia".
????????????????????

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>>135755554
He was also gay af according to this animation paid in full by your tax money.

tfw finland is located in eastern sweden

>>135755554
>>135755974
I prefer this version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrW9pTZuVEY

>>135734064
This anyone who's being honest and has an education in this is well aware UK and co were only in it for themselves.

>>135722203
they lost

>>135756031
Det är dags att alla slags ryssor skitpostar i den har finsk elitras tråd ju

>>135734918
overton window begins to open

>>135756164
WTF would have unironically paid a full movie ticket to see this. I'll save it in a vault in case the whole finnish cultural heritage has to some day be recreated based solely on a short video clip.

>>135722203
Because nobody can give anybody a good reason why another country should own another part which they have owned in the past.
They are just lines in the sand.

>>135755245
they were all sorts of scandi is what I'm saying, not specifically from a single country

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>>135755486
Saved. Have one in return.

>>135734918
...well shit

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>>135734918
https://static.ylilauta.org/files/17/orig/8s67e8d6/ryss%C3%A4botit.mp4

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Because it would just be an economic burden at this point except for the part that would give us access to the arctic sea. Wanting anything else back is literally just muh Karjala -sentimentality. The indigenous cultures in the area have also been pretty much destroyed by the Russians anyway so there would be no point trying to save them anymore.