How To Fix The 2nd Amendment

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>>135708708
Great bait mate.

>>135708708
Fuck off leaf

>>135708708
Fucking leaf

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>>135708708
>hunting or self defense purposes. You do not need a gun for anything else.
what is plinking?

>>135708708
Seen this before, copypasta bait.
Sage, go rake yourself leaf.

SHALL

>I support all the amendments that Americans enjoy, but

Fuck off

>>135708708
30 CALIBER MAGAZINE CLIP 600 BULLETS A SECOND ASSAULT WEAPON

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>>135708833
>>135708907
>>135709008
>>135709029
>>135709038

Grow the fuck up and have a discussion about things that matter.
You laugh at Britain just wait

>>135708708
>how to effectively change the 2nd Amendment
new text:
"all citizens, upon turning the age of 17, are required to undergo 300 hours of firearms training. training shall include handguns, rifles, sub-machine guns, heavy machine guns, all classes of artillery, and ammunition manufacturing for all above mentioned armaments."

>>135708708
It should be changed as follow:

"The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed. Faggots, betas and pussies, shall have no say in any constitutional matter regarding the right to bear arms. Canadians are to be raped by a nigger on sight"

>>135708708
Ok then free speech only applies to newspaper, books and conversations

The founders never intended for every citizen to have mass communication ability in the palm of their hand

kys

>>135708708
A leaf telling us what we need and dont need. The second amendment will never change and the second someone tries to change it, you will see a huge population decrease, specifically those supporting a change to the 2nd amendment.

>>135708708
Fuck'n Canadian

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>>135708708
a fuckin' leaf - what part aboot "shall not be infringed upon" don't you reckon?

>>135708708
You're right, the weapons the government has access to is getting outrageously strong.... so the American people need much stronger arms than they currently have.

Every American should have a missile launcher at the very least.

Remove automatic weapons ban. Remove suppressor ban. Force California, New York, Maryland, etc, to honor the 2nd amendment. Disallow states the right to pass laws limiting gun ownership in any way.

Classify niggers and spics as 2nd class citizens (subhuman), and remove their gun rights. Death penalty for subhumans caught with guns. Pass a law teaching gun safety in ALL schools, starting at 5th grade. Mandatory marksmanship classes at highschools.

Pass a tax credit for every gun in a home, and guaranteed refund for concealed carry permit holders. No guns to felons, mentally ill.

I just solved the gun problem in America.

OP no just no, maybe extra classes, these guns make America harder to invade and (hopefully never) serve as a check and balance the powers that be in America.

>>135711075
90% of the army are strong supporters of the 2nd ammendment.

More loyal to the west, the constitution than they are to the (INSERT CURRENT YEAR)congress.

>>135711221
So you admit America has a gun problem?

good it's always important to take a first step

>>135711461
We have a nigger problem.

>>135708708
This is merica we're talking about it.
Freedom to do as they please.

>>135711621
Get out.

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>>135708708
>muh assault weapons
Kill yourself leaf

>>135711791
Fuck off femboi.
I'm sticking around, if i could i would move to the states away from this backwards country

>>135708708
>It is the government's job to look out for our best interest
Learn to differentiate 'ought' from 'is' you retarded leaf. The government is not a magical entity, people are the government. If you can't trust 'the people' to be virtous then you are a retard for trusting the government to be virtuous. The untrustworthy 'people' are the government.

>>135711221
You sir are correct in every way except not all blacks and spics are bad. Just some, so make them take a evaluation of their mental set every five years.

>>135711976
Frig off dude seriously. Come on, take it somewhere else.

>>135712387
>i don't like what he is saying to me
>get out of my safe space
Fucking KILL yourself and get off pol you useless waste of air and space.

>>135711075
We should be able to have stingers.

>>135708708
You shoulder the guilt, then, of a father defending his family from Intruders who will inevitably ignore these new reforms, shot while reloading his lethally inefficient magazine into his weapon.

Why the fuck would I load a catapult with a single bean when I can launch a crate full of cans?

>>135712598
You wreek of summer.

>>135708708
>I support all the amendments that Americans enjoy, but some are long overdue for a serious overhaul

agreed, people need to carry guns where ever they go, they need full auto and no limits on size of bullet or number in cartridge

then we will finally be free

also blacks should have as many guns as they want

>>135713110
How about the father does his job properly and secure his home so no people have a chance in breaking in to harm his family?

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>>135713192
>Restoring to calling me a summerfag

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>>135708708

No.

>>135713389
Newt Gingrich looking roody poo is what yar

>>135708708
>be OP
>be a Leaf
>"I support the 2nd Amendment, but"

Fuck off faggot, your navy is rusting away and the only thing preventing the Chinese from invading rather than buying your country is your big brother down south.

>>135713386
You seem upset about my constitutional freedoms

Go slurp a gallon of syrup, you refugee-loving cuck

>>135713670
Fuck, he is going full retard.

>>135708708
>The 2nd amendment should be changed to specifically say which arms Americans have a right to bear.
>Again, I am a 2nd amendment supporter but
Yea, no. I don't think so leaf.

Political power grows from the barrel of a gun. If you were truly egalitarian you would value the right for people to defend themselves.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Sage

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>>135708708
How about we invade you and put martial law over your entire fucking country you stupid leaf.

Honestly, you seriously post on pol talking shit about our GREATEST amendment as if it's the problem. You seriously post on pol without knowing that niggers and spics cause all these deaths, not guns. If guns were magically removed somehow, then they'd start killing each other with spears and cars!

Fuck you and your stupid leaf flag, cunt.

>>135708708
Laws will surely stop a fucker from shooting people then offing themselves!

>>135708708
Sliiiiiiide to the left!

>>135714183
>non-whites are responsible for the problem that affects everyone?

Seriously? Fuck off you ignorant racist

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>>135714183

>>135709197
NOT

>>135714726
Six dudes.
A millions muzzies and nigga shot more people in an hour

>>135714726
Half of those are domestic terrorist who didn't resort to gun violence.

>>135714183
You just dont get it

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>>135708708

For the love of Krishna OP fuck right off your leaf faggot. You've got no dog in this fight. This is an American issue you'll never have the pleasure of participating in other than your spam shit posting.

SAGE GOES IN THE OPTIONS FIELD

>>135715333
It doesn't matter what crimes they committed, all the men pictured are evil humans who feel no remorse after killing. Guns contribute to this reality and need to be stopped.

>>135708708
>You do not need a gun for anything else.
Well then go change the bill of needs faggot and stay the fuck away from our bill of rights.

>>135708708

I know this is bait. I know you are simply trying to get a rise out me, and you get your jollies from it.

I still want to burn you alive on a pile of leaves.

>>135715824
>Guns contribute

Sorry bro, but the yewnuhh bomber and McVeigh didn't storm a school school with pump action shotguns and AR-15s .

Your argument is invalid.

>>135711221
Fuck you take my guns I take your life, you beta half nigger faggot.

>>135716365
hate and violence are the same concepts regardless of where they come from

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Goddammit, I love being free!

>>135708708
How about repealing any gun regulation there was?
Gun culture and economy have this in common: if the government is allowed to intervene in any way, it's going to turn to shit invariably
>>135708833
fpbp
>>135709379
>You laugh at britain, just wait
What, you're going to turn yourself into an even bigger laughing stock?

>>135716560
But you're arguing guns are the problem using people who used bombs.


It's cool though, you're a shit posting cuck. I'll be over here sipping my freedoms.

>>135708708
Bait post, bait thread. 2nd amendment SHOULD be unlimited in its protection of weapon ownership. Any person should be able to own any gun they can afford. Period. For no other reason than they want a fuckall-huge gun.

>>135708708
we don't have a gun problem leaf, we have a nigger problem.

>>135708708
shall not be infringed

>>135708708
Someone is paying for these threads,
They are here everyday for the last week, every time of the day.
Shareblue/Fusion GPS shit. Sage.

>>135708708
go rake yourself faggot

>Repeal NFA
>Require firearms training to obtain concealed weapons permit.
/Thread

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>>135715824
>feel no remorse
why should they feel remorse? It wasn't an accident. Remorse is for cowards. Those boyz snuffed out a bunch of faggots and soccer moms and bootlickers because they believed it was the right thing to do....so they did it.

>a fucking leaf
Your opinion on the matter is utterly irrelevant.

>>135708708
So you would be ok with people carrying around muzzle loaders everywhere? What about muzzle-loading cannons?

>>135709381
But how would we assign crews for the artillery?

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>>135708708
>I am a second amendment supporter
GTFO

Fucking leafs will never understand it because you cucks never had a revolution. Come back when you've grasped the concept of why the 2nd amendment was actually put in there.

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>>135708708
Has 4cuck really devolved this far? What are you talking about shithead. I'm a leaf too, and you make ALL OF US look like fucking communist faggots. You think they should be cucked like us in canuckistan? What is wrong with you, you god damn slimy jew ?

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>>135708708
How many times are you going to post this? KYS

>>135708708
Oh god not this copypasta slide thread again.

Sage sage sage

>>135708708
>We would be able to prevent a lot of gun crime with a minimum age for gun ownership.

You do know most crimes involving guns are committed with stolen firearms right?

Come back when you have a clue shit for brains.

>>135708708
Posting in epic pasta bread

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>>135708708
Your opinion doesn't matter.

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>>135708708

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>>135715824
Why are you here? Also, why are you such a sub human with absolutely ZERO balls? How can you support it when you want to alter it? You obviously don't know too much history, other than what that nigger woman says on MTV, so why don't you READ into it, and understand what it's all about. And stop being such a faggot.

>>135708708
The only thing to fix is your wagon, faggot.
Fuck off and go do Canadian things.

>>135708708
>Add something to the second amendment that gives the government the right to repossess anyone's firearm for any reason.

"...shall not be infringed, except arbitrarily whenever the government feels like it"

Great bait OP.

>>135708708
fuck off. shill slide thread. saged and hidden.

>First of all, I would just like to say that I am a proud gun owner
>and I strongly support the 2nd amendment.

No you do not support the second amendment. You are continually shilling for modifications to make it superfluous.

>The world, America specifically, is a completely different place today
>in 2017 then it was in 1791 when the 2nd amendment was written.
>Time changes everything and it seems like the only thing that hasn't >changed in the past 226 years ago is the 2nd amendment. I would >like to propose some tough, but fair changes to the 2nd amendment that are needed.

The old "it's the current year" strawman. The right to self defense, under this logic, should also change to include more modern weaponry than a flintlock. The thing is the right to self defense is
not a right granted by the second amendment, it exists separate from
government as a natural right. That right doesn't change with the passage of time.

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sage

Fuck off shill
Fuck off troll

sage

>1) Have the 2nd amendment specify exactly which arms Americans have a right to bare. "The Right to Bare Arms" is incredibly unspecific and leaves a lot of questions floating around. I would like to see all assault weapons banned under the 2nd amendment. No one needs assault weapons, and no one needs weapons that have more than 10 bullets in a clip. I have owned guns for close to three decades and have never needed to use more than 3 bullets at once. By banning assault rifles, we would be able to prevent a lot of the senseless gun violence happening in America.

The second amendment does imply exactly which arms Americans have the right to own. The phrase "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state,...", defines "arms" as exactly those that would include those required for a military member, which would include so-called "assault weapons".

The phrase, "... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.", is hardly "incredibly unspecific", in fact it is highly specific.

No one cares about your personal preferences, nor your personal history of gun ownership, or the arbitrary number of bullets one may or may not have in a magazine . Those are irrelevant to the question.

To claim that banning "assault weapons" would "be able to prevent a lot of the senseless gun violence happening in America." Shows a complete lack of understanding of the types of weapons most often used in gun violence in America, as well as gun related deaths in other countries far exceeding that of the US. Stop listening to your lying libtard news and do your own research.

research.


>2) I would like to see the 2nd amendment specify a minimum age for firearm ownership. Firearms are extremely deadly weapons and they need to be respected. Only mature adults with fully developed brains should have access to them. It would be an incredible change to make it so no one younger than 25 is allowed to have firearms. This would also prevent a lot of the firearm violence in America as most mass shooters are in their early 20's.

Sorry, but once again, no one cares about what you would like to see, particularly since you are a Canadian citizen, and the second amendment does not apply to you, (though it should).
Since males over the age of 18 are required to register for potential
Military Service, they are entitled to own firearms and other arms.
They should receive well supervised training in their early teens to
become responsible gun owners. However, many school districts have removed gun safety training from middle schools, for stupid reasons.

The vase majority of gun crime is committed by 15-35 year old Blacks. This is due to nothing but their own culture. Since many of them have felonies, and/or drug offenses, they are legally forbidden from possessing a firearm. That does not keep them from doing so in large numbers. And yet you would deny others of their same age from being able to protect themselves?

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>>135708708
No?! YOU SAY 'NO' TO MY AR-15, YOU FUCKIN' PRICK! YOU AIN'T GONNA ABLE TO SAY 'NO' TO ME WHEN I GET TO YOUR HOUSE, YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!

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>>135708708
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>>135708708
>>135708708
FUCK OFF LEAF CUNT

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why dont u go fix africa?

>3) Give the government the ability to take firearms from whoever, whenever, and for any reason. It is the governments job to keep us safe. And if they have the ability to take guns away from dangerous people, we will all be so much safer.

Clearly, you do not support the second amendment. Your proposal also violates the fourth amendment and would result in a police state.
It is not the governments job to keep you safe, other than maintaining
borders from invasion, and other larger concerns the affect the nation as a whole. You are, in the most cowardly fashion, asking others to risk life and limb to take guns away from law abiding citizens to make you feel safe, rather than maintaining responsible gun ownership to assist law enforcement in protecting your community. You have abdicated your responsibility for your own safety to the State, which can not and will not always be there to protect you. If fact, you would be at their complete merci, should they attempt to illegally seize that which is lawfully your own.


>I have many more arguments to present but these are my three most strongest ones. If you have nothing intellectual to contribute to this post please move on.

Really, if these are your strongest arguments, you should just give up. You do not have the intellectual capacity to do anything other the repeat long debunked argument while claiming it is the current year as a pathetically weak argument.

>>135708708
private citizens used to be able to own cannons when they were the height of military tech. that means that the founding fathers had no problem with Americans owning advanced and devastating weapons.

>>135708708
American guns are for destroying the government if they get out of line. Hang yourself.

>>135708708

>repossess anyone's firearm for any reason

... Leaf wants to have a discussion about guns. No you don't. Shill elsewhere.

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>>135708708
Read, dumbass leaf.

burn anyone who want to take guns

>>135718402
what do you mean? you just get a few people at a time and have them learn every role that you need to preform when using artillery.

>>135708708
By fix I assume you mean change n entire country to be like you want it to be. Yeah that's not selfish..

>>135708708
Yeeeaah, no. FUCK OFF LEAF. It's never gonna happen motherfucker.

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>>135711461
>america has a gun problem
hand guns cause an overwhelming number of the gun deaths in america but everyone wants to ban assault rifles. talk about mental retardation.

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>>135708708
The 2nd Amendment makes it legal for US citizens to own nuclear weapons to use against their own government in the event of government tyranny, so long overdue and they know that, so yes the US government denies the citizen his right to arm himself with and bear modern weapons of war, because the government is beyond just corrupt, it is evil.

>>135708708
As long that the 10 bullets are Grenades, I am for it

He's right, the amendment should be changed. From "right to bear arms" to "right to be ALL arms"

>>135708708
god he just keeps refining this thread
endeavour to persevere
here's your you and SAGE

>>135708708
This is a literal jew pasta from last night apply herbs & spices liberally

>>135721711
don't honor the enemy you fucking traitor with a decent costume

>>135709356
shoots the same ammo as we dropped on Hiroshima...

>>135708708
You're a fucking faggot. I stopped reading at "clip size"

>>135721629
No, it does not. Personal weapons, not crew served or weapons of mass destruction or aircraft carriers have nothing to do with the personal right to self defense, of the ability to serve in a militia.
Study up and quit shitposting.

>>135708708
We know you dont suppport the second amendment. One, you are a leaf. Two, you never post actual pictures of your own stash. 4, your are a faggot. Sage and reporr this shit people

>>135708708
Mind your own fucking business, frenchy.

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>>135709381
>>all citizens, upon turning the age of 17, are required to undergo 300 hours of firearms training
>40 hrs to be an FAA certified pilot

go fuck yerself.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGD

http://youtube.com/watch?list=PLvOVyowmYcu0HeVcvmfzgnG-BNa6pEdWv&v=pELwCqz2JfE

Leaf ips should be banned.

How can one little place have so many cringy, left wing, shitpostingers?

>>135722059
Yes it does, idiot! Back in 1776 if you had the money you could buy a fully stocked reinforced galleon and sink any\ ship on the high seas. That was their equivalent of a crew served weapon of mass destruction. You fucking idiot, learn some god damn history instead of saying someone is wrong because of your feelings on the subject matter.

>>135711976
>>135711621
you're more than welcome here Aussie. just remember to try out clay pigeon shooting if you buy a gun. it's the most fun i've had shooting.

>>135713283
fathers do secure their homes, with guns.

>>135717212
i'd be opposed to people owning tanks, and artillery. but if you can hold it in your hands then fuck it, i don't see why you shouldn't be allowed to own it.

>>135722059
people used to be able to own ships loaded with cannons, so i don't see why crew served weapons wouldn't be covered. people are too retarded to own nukes though.

>>135708708
Um how about you fuck off tou Canadian cuck

>>135709379
>Implying 11,000 deaths are more important than the 600,000 deaths from heart disease
Yeah lets have a talk about the things that really matter.

>>135708708
>Guns are deadly tools and only a fully mature adult should have access to them.

By that logic cars should have the same restrictions put in place

>>135708708
>2nd amendment supporter
>give government the right to repossess anyone's firearm for any reason

Learn to proofread? Hard to fix stupid. You're out of your mind if you think the state can be trusted with that kind of power. End result is a disarmed populace and leviathan state.

A

>>135722866
FUCKING

>>135722866
fucking

>>135722916
LEAF

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>>135708708
>10 bullets should be more than enough for self defense purposes
I'm going to take this bait, but I need to point out that whoever is wrote that pasta has never seen a real firefight in his life

>>135708708
SHALL

>>13572250
Never were nuclear weapons under the control of anyone other than military branches of government. This is not the case with wooden ships of war. You are a complete retard, and you should go back to smoking your bong, otherwise put up or shut up. Post any legal ruling where a private citizen can have a nuke. Young can't because you are a self absorbed moron, who thinks that because he has a brain fart, that makes his stinky bubble reality. You would not know history if it smacked you in the nutsack.

you are the main reasons leafy are looks down upon, fucking cucknada trying to impose more bullshit dogma on more intellectually superior people... good fcking luck. fucking canada = beta

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>>135708708
Here's the important thing. You admit that you want an overhaul. A new amendment. Because as of right now everything you just proposed is unconstitutional under the second amendment.

You're right. The 2nd amendment would need to be changed in order to get all that stuff in. But until that happens not one step back.

It's time for the doctrine of Strict Scrutiny. Any regulation must be "a compelling governmental interest and must have narrowly tailored the law to achieve that interest." Everyone of your proposals fails under that test.

>>135708708
Suck start a single shot shotgun leaf. From my cold dead....

>>135722505
Never were nuclear weapons under the control of anyone other than military branches of government. This is not the case with wooden ships of war. You are a complete retard, and you should go back to smoking your bong, otherwise put up or shut up. Post any legal ruling where a private citizen can have a nuke. Young can't because you are a self absorbed moron, who thinks that because he has a brain fart, that makes his stinky bubble reality. You would not know history if it smacked you in the nutsack.

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>>135708708
why do the leafs keep posting this?

>>135708708
Gtfo
You're obviously not American.

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>>135708708

>>135723156
Depends on purpose of the fire. if its self defense, home defense, business defense, thats right. Most self defense use of weapons is like 3 shots. YOu see what happens to burglars or robbers when a gun is discharged ONCE? they drop and run, almost NEVER return fire even if they have guns. Very few firefights ever take place for self defense use.

Now for aggressive used in a more combat oriented scenario of course you would want more.

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>>135708708
SHALL NOT BE

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>>135708708

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>>135708708
>>How Fix The 2nd Amendment?

Kill anyone that wants to amend it, or suggests that political "Progress" is a linear path.

If they hold the opinion that only "higher authority" can be trusted with "Monopoly of force" then also kill their families to ensure that such stupidity doesn't spread.

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>>135708708
Stop responding to this shit you faggots. Why do you insist on not listening to us? Fucking stop responding!
>Just fucking
>
>Stop.

>>135723492
You are a complete retard. Just because the weapon is classified to keep it out of the hands of enemies chiefly among those are the American people as made evident in many TV shows representing acts of terrorism. Your government wants you to be afraid of your neighbor, but if there is any reason you would not allow your neighbor to own a weapon that reason applies even more so to your government and it's military. You stupid fucking feels cuck.

>>135708708
You again? We had this thread 2 days ago.

>>135708708
Like any of your other "fix the 2nd amendments" threads lead to anything other than everyone pointing out that you are a colossal faggot.

Quit worrying about America's gun laws, faggot.