You do all realize that the state will always win, right?

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I am the State

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The chaotic nature of the universe always wins.

>>135701668
>state runs out of money to pay army
>no army
Man, that was tough

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>>135701668
Then explain the 5th Republic to me, gud burger.

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>>135701794
Not anymore. Not in the modern world.

The CIA has been conditioning us for decades. All institutions - academia, media, industry - utterly subjugated by the Deep State. Universal surveillance. The State won many years ago.

Do you think this website exists for any other reason than because it's ALLOWED to? Do you know how deep the fucking intelligence agencies are into your mind, right now? Controlling humans is a SCIENCE, and it has been perfected.

Submit or perish.

>>135701668
Theres 170 million males in the us, if each male damaged 0.5% of a state agent then Around 6 million casualties in the civilian popukation, if you dont think 170 million males are more moralized and zealot than mercenerary people working for money in the state youre retarded, the us military could not fight off 400,000 zealot farmers with aks.

>>135701668
Unless you're the Ancien regime, the British Empire, or Chiang Kai-Shek, or Gaddafi.

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>>135702167
Ok kiddo

>>135701668
"The state" is 0.1% of the American population. Uncle Bob who camps twice a month and shoots his guns twice a week will destroy these fancy faggots in uniform if it actually came down to it. The reality of the situation is that "the state" would go back home and defend its family in a civil war scenario and so would a huge portion of the military. No one is scared OP, go get better fearmongering tactics from your shekel provider.

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>>135702258
And how is this rebellion going to be organized? The DARPA project that we're communicating through? Are you going to bring your GPS-equipped phone around? Planning on using the camera and sensor-monitored road network? Beneath the satellite-filled sky?

The drugged, sedentary, comfortable, propagandized, neutered, domesticated people of the West will never rise again. The advent of AI will only make the State's grip tighter. You are deluding yourself to believe otherwise.

Do not resist. Submit and you will be spared.

Explain 1776

>>135702924
Youre retarded, all thats needed to replace the state is being in the peoples interest.

>>135702924
400,000 people are armed with aks and explosives and are assaulting bases, tell me how your tyrants will survive.

You speak of the State as if it is some monolithic entity,
when really all a State is is a group of people acting in ways defined by other people who wrote said directives down on pieces of paper.
And people can be beaten, have their minds changed, or simply lose faith in this fictional entity called the State.

>>135703647
US stategy involves bombing foreign lands with no fear of counter attack, that doesnt work on home soil.

See what happens when your precious state runs out of gibsmedats. If your goons can't eat and have to face the horde of niggers, best believe that there'll be some major changes.

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>>135701668
>the state will always win
Nigga plz.

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>>135702924

>>135703647
Tell me how you would lift the siege of a 400,000 men assault on a station, youbcsnt use infantry, they would get mowed down, tanks would be equally useless and would get sorrounded wothout infantry and be destroyed, aircrafts could be shot down or just rushed towards its supply base and destroyed.

There is nothing in the world or in the next hundreds of years that will significantly counter infantry.

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the state didn't win in Ukraine

>>135703724
Yea but lets be honest fatass you aint gonna do shit about it. Now shut up and give me 44% of your income and do w/e the state says bitch boy.

>BUT IM MUH RESISTANCE!

>>135704427
Nor in any war the US has been has the strategies im speaking about not been effective.

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>>135702924
There is actually a really easy answer to this; hang their families. We'll see how many of them are walking around with their wack-em-smacker sticks when they know there is a good chance their families will be strung up or poisoned or their brakes cut or their house set on fire if people find out who's who. Course this would only be reserved for a 'shit really hit the fan into a bigger fan' scenario like abolition of the constitution or hostile takeover, but true tyrants (not the muh fefes libtard idea of tyrants) and their lackeys deserve no less.

>>135701668
What is French revolution

>>135705223
Deep State actually has much better hand in the terror. They know everything about you and your family. They have full freedom to prepare terrorist acts against them. You know nothing and when you try to scout police's families you will get in the watch list.

>>135701668
Yup. The shear power of the state alone is what gives people looking for change incentive to achieve that change legally. Literally the whole country could rebel against the state and the state would still win.

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>>135705236
Was before Patriot Act. History has ended.

>>135701668
Yep. That's why there has never been a revolution before in human history.

>>135705236
The state killed itself it wasn't the people who killed it

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>>135701668
w/e you say fag

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>>135705574
We're talking 'a disney tier evil has suddenly taken over the united states', I'm not sure there has ever been anything so bad as to warrant such extreme measures besides maybe things like the holodomar. Even then, the people couldn't do jack shit but I also doubt they weren't already starving.

Basically, if it's low and slow, yeah we're probably fucked. If it's sudden, shits on.

>everyone just stops paying taxes
>even just 5% at first
>you can't arrest that many
>more stop
>more and more
>the state fades away

>>135705775
Russian posters are cancer.

>>135706543
>you can't arrest that many
challenge accepted.jpg

>>135706255
It's not that bad. Other dictatorships were much worse. Modern technology makes like bearable.

>>135701794
This.

>>135702167
You give humans too much credit.

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>>135701794
Funny isn't it how americucks believe that rome looked like those paintings even though they were painted a thousand years after.

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>>135706255
>We're talking 'a disney tier evil has suddenly taken over the united states',
You don't exactly understand how bureaucracy works. Every bureaucracy first fights for their survival and treat everyone who does anything against them or their power as enemy and plans counter acts. When bureaucracy is political party as DNC response is fluffy (lets run yet another propaganda campaign, try to buy persons and votes etc) But things are much more serious when you talk about secret alphabet agencies. They first suspect everyone as Russian spies and theorists. Main threat. And this is self fulfilling prophecy if you stare at someone's dirt very hard eventually you will find Trump's connections with Russians. And now every measure is justified to counteract against such threat, enemy of the sate dehumanized and became disney tier evil himself. And now CIA does evil for the "Greater Good"

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>>135707247
There's the funny part, the further and further technology progresses, the less and less dictatorships will even resemble dictatorships.
>they just don't make dictatorships like they used to

>>135707513
So you're saying the government gets so paranoid they become schizophrenic and start killing civilians off because they might be a threat? If that was true your own government would have offed you by now.

>>135706543
>>everyone just stops paying taxes
Nothing happens like everyone and together. Someone needs to do such first, someones need to be leader to organize people. They will go down as criminal and domestic terrorist and people are go back to been sheep again. You only need to remove leaders and they can't hide from Deep State in the year 2017. But Deep State is hidden from you. This is one way road of secrecy.

>>135707902
>So you're saying the government gets so paranoid they become schizophrenic and start killing terrorists and Russians spies who are hacking elections because they are threat
Fixed

>>135701668
>Living in a city

Ha, come and try.

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>>135701668
>rhetorical assertions
Not an argument.

>>135706968

They couldn't even bother to arrest all the illegal OWS/BLM protesters. Not only getting the busses and paddy wagons out there, plastic zip ties --- the jails would be over run just to book them all. The judges and cops that would have to work crazy overtime hours just to process them. Cops want money and overtime but 200+ people from the protests were too much for them to even consider. Then you have the overcrowded state prisons that keep having to release the criminals early.

To OP's point, look at the LA riots where the cops were widely outnumbered by looters/rioters/arsonist, they ran with their tails between their legs waiting for the national guard to back them up and by then everything was looted and burned down. They didn't control shit. Rest assured there are way more legal gun owners now than in the early 90's. There's more preppers than ever because we've seen the economy and stock market crash and the housing bubble burst. Your piece of shit local cops don't stand a chance if the people are against them and the people have comparable weapons to the military. You can't police the streets with tanks and planes. It would be guerilla warfare everyday and the government would be fucked out of supply routes and their families would be in jeopardy.

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The Proletariat only needs the state that is withering away.

>>135707460
>nobody ever claimed as much
begone leaf

>>135708368
lol ur a fagget

you need to stop posting, reddit is that way

>implying I couldn't destroy all 'deep states' and take over the world myself if I wanted to

>>135701668
Decadence, in the end, will bring down America, just as it brought down the Roman Empire, the British Empire, the Spanish Empire, the Ottoman Empire, and every other successful empire that was and will be.

As government excess grows unchecked with reckless abandon, the nation that underpins the state won't be able to sustain the excesses of society, until there is a collapse of national wealth followed by the reemergence of the barbarian.

This kind of thinking has been thought of by numerous empires on the verge of collapse, because when an empire see itself as invincible, is precisely when it is most vulnerable.

Expect massive entitlements, inefficient military expenditures, and a lack of sound economic policy to overwhelm the American government's reserve currency status, thus undermining the sole superpower leading to a Chinese and Russian dominated world.

The lifespan of an empire is 250 years for a reason.

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>>135708330
LA riots were not controlled because it was sensitive racial matter and riots didn't; treated anything of value (monkeys chimp? white зepoel can die? Big deal. Asians? who are they?). When somebody is really threatening state authority they are dealt with swiftly and with no hesitation

>>135706543
>roads starts crumbling down because nobody pays for their upkeep
>human society collapses
>ANCAP wet dreams foiled once again.

>>135704491
>TAKE THAT PIG!
>oh shit you okay bro?

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The freer the market, the more weapons people can afford to buy. Remember that.
Not that it ought to matter. Fearmongering is bullshit. Everyone could be much, much wealthier than they are today. Scarcity wouldn't really go away, but cost of living could be made in many ways hella cheap.