Venezuela General /vzg/ - Summersale in Caracas Edition

long live muh peaceful protestors!

should Trump sanction them? Will it help or hurt

First for based Maduro

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first for Venezuelan qt refugees

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>>135691460

>>135691507
sanctions never work, only hurt the people

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>>135691460
Kill yourself

>135691542
>me in the helicopter throwing out a peaceful protestor
also, (you)

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fuck commies.

>>135691597
That's what I was thinking when that one American general said he wants to do nothing that would hurt the Venezuelan people. Obviously it has done nothing versus states like North Korea.

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nth for qt venezuelan refugee gf

>>135691660
10/10
based police beating up a rioter who probably destroyed public transporation earlier

>>135691513
>an anglo mixing with shitskins
color me suprised

maybe you'll give them some billion dollar apartment when you're at it, so they can feel comfy enough?

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https://www.pscp.tv/w/1MYGNXeEmbyxw

maduro live right now,

>>135691315
Regarding to the so-called "CIA coup"

Rewind to some months ago.
Shit is going to hit the fan in weeks. Oil price isn't going up since years, Venezuela heavily relies on it because it makes 95% of its exports; besides, top officials in the venezuelan government are suspicious of taking part within a drug trafficking ring whose main supplier are colombian marxist guerrillas whose in turn have their operation ground just at the other side of the venezuelan border. Parallel to all of that, there's the problem with the mexican gangs causing violence just because the boom of cocaine smuggling from Colombia to Venezuela and then to Honduras, where it just stops for a while in the trek through Mexico and then the USA.

You're Mike Pompeo, head of the CIA and that's the situation. You can either let it keep rolling until it turns into another Somalia, your border keeps oozing headhunters and there are more and more cocaine in your streets; or join forces with the two biggest governments directly involved (Colombia, Mexico) in order to coordinate efforts to face the fallout that could emerge from the situation in Venezuela (huge social and economic crisis, absent rule of law, the government is heavily involved in drug trafficking and terrorists even from Iran and Lebanon roam freely the zone)

What do you do? Leave it all alone?

But the media chimped out just because Pompeo was too sincere

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>>135691375
>Why didnt the other 82% just vote against it instead of boycotting?

Because they chose to not recognize it and no matter what they did, the regime would still pad the votes and pass it.

>>135691507
Sanctions would make Venezuela crumble and make the Maduro Regime self implode. So yes, it would help.

>>135691856
Seeing as how we buy over half of their oil, it seems like something we're going to have to do either way (apparently it is a huge percentage of revenue)

>>135691832
You're telling me you wouldn't wife that?

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>USSR
>was a communist shithole where people mass starved in gulags and bread lines for decades
>collapses
>becomes capitalists
>suddenly their economy growths and people have food cheaply
>China
>mass starvation under mao
>mao dies
>next leader adopts a capitalist market
>suddenly surpass USA GDP in three decades
>India
>mass starvation and economic poverty under communism
>become capitalists
>develops space travel

>muh comunism works
>muh china and russia are comunists
>reddit education
>hasn't read yet the black men of free market economics

who are we siding with

my guess is that the protestors are in the right

>>135692017
No. I could fuck it, even maybe impregnate but I won't racemix (i.e. commit to a non-white child in any way).

Is whole fucking reddit here?

>>135692156
Protesters. Maduro leads a leftist, socialist government

>>135691838
man he can really spout bullshit by the ton.

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>>135691856
>Because they chose to not recognize it and no matter what they did, the regime would still pad the votes and pass it.
Not only that but Maduro literally skipped a voting process that, according to the constitution, it's necessary for the constituent voting to take place, essentially making it an illegal move.

>>135692156
are u a commie?

>>135692156
Both are leftist fucks so really just watch things fall apart

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Anyone found new pics of pic related sniper squads?

What are the best ways to follow this? I'll take Spanish news sources as well, I've taken enough French where I can at least get the basic idea. I can't tell how bad this really is compared to what we've seen in the past yet though, I mean preparing to rewrite the constitution seems like a big issue

>>135691754
>that one American general said he wants to do nothing that would hurt the Venezuelan people
Then they won't fix Venezuelan. An economic shock treatment is necessary to unfuck their shit. People WILL suffer immensely. There is no way around this.

https://youtu.be/SCkTFPLL-Lk

Remove gommies, venezuelabro. Trust me, it's the only way.

>>135692148
Part about USSR is absolutely not true

>>135692555
ok chad

>>135692156
i would go with leveling the whole shithole just in case.

>>135692148
>communist india

Are you retarded

>>135692487
Twitter

https://twitter.com/NTN24ve

https://twitter.com/ElpulsoVzla

>>135692799
Thanks, man. If this blows up I want to be in the know for once

>>135692588
>>135692688
>USSR didn't have bread lines
>a central planned economy don't have waiting lines in any resource
have u ever read any book on economics, fucking commie iliterate san francisco liberal scum?

fucking retard.
do you think those people that starved in russia during communism starved because food was cheap and easy to get?

>india
It was a socialist shithole, friendly to russians.
why do you think they killed ghandi?

fucking redditors.

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getting ukraine vibes....

>>135692672
They need to be physically removed

>>135692347
Monachist/Fascist

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>>135693075

>>135693085
as long as you're capitalist, I'm ok.

>>135692148
>>135692409

>>135693063
from existence

>>135692672
that's silly, not even 30 people

>>135692471
is that crusaders cross onto shields ?

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>>135693202
Yes, they're called Cruzados and they fight with god.

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>>135693202
Yeah. The people with shields call themselves the "resistance"

>>135692409
>>135693180
yeah, except they stopped being literal shitholes for the average citizen when they became capitalists.

thanks for not disagreeing.

>>135693202
well, we're catholic shitholes.

>>135693180
so the cycle is
>shithole country
>becomes socialist
>still shit but now has industries
>socialism fails
>becomes capitalist
>now works

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>>135692945
Jesus Christ you are retarded.
Ok first
>San Francisco liberal scum
I'm Serb
>socialist India
It was part of non-aligned movement you should learn history
>bread lines
USSR made famines extinct, check your sources, also it turned Russia into superpower where capitalistic 90s saw rise of infant mortality,homeless people,drugs and prostitution in previous years

>>135692945
>why do you think they killed ghandi?
Uh. Because the dude killing him was a right wing Hindu reactionary who didnt like the idea of people being free to choose their religion?

Why would socialists kill a socialist?

Where is Eric Holder when you need him?

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posting some Ukraine pics for DIY self-defense inspo

>>135692471
>muh beautiful beaceful brotestors

So are there any /ourguys/ in this situation or are we just spectators to this shitshow?

So did anything happen today?

Sky News are saying the protests are mostly over & it's back to normal

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>>135693686

>>135693527
Which was the question in the last thread: were there any successful socialist governments?
The entire circle is successful and it depends on a socialist phase so there you go.

Also Id expand it, because once capitalism has done its thing and made people rich, countries seem to go back to some socialism (see scandinavia and other rich european nations) albeit with a radically different approach.

>>135693700
spectators desu. At this hour venezuelans get an electricity blackout for a couple of hours and will be bback shitposting later tonight

>>135693700
>>135552533 (Cross-thread)
>>135553028 (Cross-thread)
Some anon saw paramilitary fighters outside of his home
>>135693748
I don't know about the situation on the ground but I know that Trump may sanction their oil industry. Maduro's assets were also frozen in the US too

>>135693527
the cycle is
>country torn apart by war
>socialism appears after it or around its onset
>the effect of peace makes people believe that socialism did the trick

If anyone can make socialism happen just after peace time, its effects would be much more evident

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>>135693788

>>135693544
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_Soviet_Union

>oh wow, I'm happy my country produces shit for the army
>I guess It doesn't matter all those bread and consumer good lines
>I guess I'm ok with industrial output and having to ask permission to moscow whenever I want to buy a slice of bread, having to wait weeks for the central planning unit to give me permission to buy soap and shoes is ok

>>135693546
ghandi was a socialist scum who rather had their own people poor than becoming dirty like the US

because yeah, the west is degenerate.

>>135693189
http://cpcml.ca/may-11-international-mobilization-defend-democracy-brazil/

if you want another reason to hate Canadians

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>>135693886
>Update

>>135693938
>columbian education

>>135693810
>become socialist
>collapses into civil war
>becomes now capitalism
>economic wealth

>wow, socialism works

>he thinks welfare is the same as socialism

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>>135693989

>>135693938
>ghandi was scum
>because he wanted that one really good thing for his people
can you make up your mind already?

How can there be a civil war when the opposition has pretty much no weaponry?

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>>135693609
This one is old but I'll allow it.
>Atlanta cap
BASED.

>>135693527
Three months of trying to lead peaceful protests while getting killed everyday with deaths tallying up to 120+ leads to this.

>>135694105
>columbia
Yours isn't any good either.

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>>135694189
ukrainians did it with mostly improvised weapons.

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>>135694189
>>135694269

>>135693810
You can skip the socialism part and go straight to capitalism though. Also unless the goal of socialism is "let's industrialize the country and then die" I'd say none of them worked. Ever.

>>135694118
Jesus dude just at least consider the fact that the world existed prior to 1917 ok? Youre literally comparing random points in russian history.

>Germany is burning in 1945
>Doesnt burn half a decade later
>My god Fascism really is a bad ideology! Look at how everything burns when its fascism!!!!!1!

>>135694208
Literally typo, in my country we say it with u so

>>135694105
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1990-01-25/news/9001070410_1_soviet-miners-soviet-people-soviet-ambassador

yeah, I guess having AIDS in some shitty commie bloc without clean water and communal bathrooms for the entire building while sniffing some krokodile and being alcoholic meanwhile your daughter is all day in the bread line because she forgot the day before her ration card.

wow, I love communism wtf.

>>135693609
They need to be shot.

>>135693957
I'm convinced Canada is unsalvageable at this point and should just be nuked.

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>>135694208
>Three months of trying to lead peaceful protests while getting killed everyday with deaths tallying up to 120+ leads to this.
implying all deaths are opposition.

>>135694189
If people are pissed enough in large enough numbers it doesn't matter. The security forces simply begin to unravel, fall apart and increasingly lack any kind of necessary support from places to sleep to food to eat. You are not fighting an actual enemy, you're fighting your own infrastructure and support base.

Bump for dead commis and food for the people

>>135694177
ghandi was a pedophile.
he rather wanted his people to be poor than becoming capitalists.

>>135694431
can you name any modern socialist country where people wanna live on?

Cuba?
Venezuela?
Best korea?

>but muh european nordic socialism is real socialism

>>135693957
>>135694646
Also they have this big "no foreign intervention in Venezuela" thing on the right but at the same time they wanted an international mobilization for Brazil.
Are leftists naturally inconsistent or what

Lel did he just call trump a manatee? My spanish isnt that good.

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>>135694778
F

>>135693788
those CIA larping, starbucks drinking "street resistance" faggots, "accidentially" captured by high res professional cameras, were the biggest joke of the whole ukraine conflict

>>135694778
Nordic Socialism is actually going downhill, fast. The countries were successfull first, gave women voting rights. Women voted for massive benefits, shift in government etc and the countries have been ailing and slowly falling apart ever since.

Sweden is in many ways increasingly closer to this than the meme of the progressive rich and lovely country. The nogs and others could literally overthrow it by now and will do so the moment the cash runs out even for a tiny bit or they notice they can actually do so. Meanwhile Swedish women are busy prancing around like horses to protest against monuments.

>>135693788
I don't know if it's just me but the guy on the left looks like a vydia ragdoll

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>>135694973
they actually killed people though, I wouldn't call them a joke

>>135694965
>>135695003
all comunism does is give free shit to people.
the system collapses because niggers leech of the taxes of hardworking people.
hard working people stop working as hard because they're being rewarded the same as lazy people.
the system degrades until collapse.

read a book on economics.
commie scum.

Unless someone arms the protestors, a civil war will not happen. There will be massive chimpouts but if they get btfo by the police in just some minutes it will never be a civil war. The best these cunts can do is throw molotov cocktails.
Another thing is that the whole population storms the parliament and decapitates Maduro.

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>>135694829
Wouldn't surprise me.
You're going to enjoy this video of Maduro trying to say in English, "Mr. Emperor Trump, the constitution will go through, GO GO GO!" kek
https://youtu.be/sTdLA3vKYMY?t=29s

>>135695003
>Nordic Socialism
aka welfare state

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>>135694525
>1990
You are eating capitalistic propaganda. If it was that bad you think USSR would be a superpower for 40 years. This poverty was cause of shock therapy (sudden and massive privatization and capitalist reforms) Gorbachev introduced and later Yeltsin continued

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>>135695124
>the CIA kills people
>so don't call those larpers a joke, this is serious business dude

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>>135694646
Wouldn't take many nukes.

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>>135695436
you really think that guy throwing the brick was CIA? lol

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>>135693544
>cutting the graph in '33
>not showing the economic boom in Germany
Fucking socialist serbitch

>>135695403
Not that guy but weren't galsnost and perestroika the aftermath of a long period of economic woes?

>>135695403
No, they were going broke THEN they introduced reforms

>>135695241
How involved is the US actually in venezuela? They would have all the reason to stir up shit but is it just diplomatically or is it actually like Ukraine, Libya and Syria?
Or a better question: Is this general fact based? Or is it just whacky commie bashing? If the US turned out to support the protesters would you guys turn into another /sg/ and support the government?

>>135695215
That's...not...communism...have YOU read a book, not economic one, just any book at all

>>135695403
>muh industrial production
>It doesn't matter people have to use ration cards for basic food and clothes because muh leader can make weapons and shit
>muh communism industries production while people starve off the streets and alcoholism and drugs are rampant among their population because they rather die than keep living under comunism
>literally among the lowest happinest region on earth
>but we had factories and shit

>>135695580
no anon you dont understand hitler and nazis did nothing good for germany ok? please dont try natsoc again :^)

>>135695663
It will becomes a Gulf War-tier because Venezuela probably has Iranian missiles. The only thing that it can reach to Miami.

>>135695663
The USA is long gone from Latin America since Bush Jr, mate

Obama even turned a blind eye on what was happening, Iran even meddled with some operatives in Venezuela

>>135695663
>Or is it just whacky commie bashing
Yes.

>>135695801
I live in Miami and I say destroy this place

>>135695663
Southcom just monitors it. They're more worried about drug interdiction than anything else

>>135695827
>The USA is long gone from Latin America since Bush Jr, mate
Yeah, no.

>>135695590
Long periods of economic woes always are the cause of societal change.
>The socialist revolution stood as a result of the monarchy failing to adress problems
>Glasnost Perestroika stood as a result of the soviet beaurocracy failing to adress other problems

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>>135695580
Kek you are right about Germany but that was not full blown capitalism
>>135695620
>>135695590
They were in economic downfall due to Afghanistan war (which ironically CIA funded like today in Venezuela) but REAL powerty came in the nineties, every ruskie will tell you that much

>>>>135691315
I feel bad for what they have suffered and the more that's on the way but hopefully they can get it right if there is anyone left. Personally don't understand why they haven't been mass invading neighboring countries with the young, old, and sick

>>135695684
>communism is an unicorn
>but the best we can get IRL are horses
>communists gets always horses when trying to get unicorns
>bro, that's not real comunism, real comunism are unicorns
kys commie scum.

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for those talking about lack of guns, they're building improvised guns

>>135696018
>but that was not full blown capitalism
Mixed economy + fascist dictatorship = wonders, after all.

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>venezuela general
>absolutely zero happenings
mfw

>>135695957
Sauce me some real intervention from the USA in Latin America, one who can be compared with what's happening in Europe with the NATO or the middle east or Sout Korea, one that has happened in the last 15 years

>>135695684
>forced redistribution of wealth
>somehow not communism
kys you dumb fuck.

>>135695723
You are describing capitalism in 90ies

>>135692630
>>135692451
The correct answer

>>135696018
>They were in economic downfall due to Afghanistan war
>meanwhile USA accumulates vietnam war, gulf war, irak war, afghanistan war, and so on without crumblig like the USSR did with a single conflict
I'd keep blaming communism and its idiocy regarding to manipulating markets

>>135696300
That's not he said nigger

>>135695801
>Venezuela probably has Iranian missiles
Can I get some sauce with that? Ill take an Iranian backed government over a lot of things these days.

>>135695827
Theres a new administration now and it hasnt shown any indocations that its gonna be any less imperialistic and interventionist than the previous ones. Just because Obama didnt care enough is in no way proof that same applies to Trump.

>>135695927
>Southcom just monitors it. They're more worried about drug interdiction than anything else
Interesting. Thanks for the info!

>>135696219
off top of my head, a few years ago there was the constitutional coup in paraguay, backed by US. A few years later, when snowden was on the run, bolivian presidential plane was put in danger bc of US pressure to ground it.

>>135696391
what you're talking about isn't real communism though

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>>135696385
Stay mad

>>135696452
Call imperialism to the invasion of Panama headed by Ronald Reagan or the central american affaires by the same goverment... since that, almost nothing has happened because USA is more concentrated in Ukraine, the middle east and China than in Latin America

>>135696472
I'm pretty sure the US routinely spied on the Brazilian government and also sabotaged one of our space programs (didn't even know we had a proper one lmao)

>>135695215
>read a book on economics.
Or political or Law philosophy. Authors like Montesquieu have warned long ago of structures of extreme artificial equality, citing the consequences that we've seen in communist countries.

>>135696472
>constitutional coup in Paraguay
it happened because Lugo's election was viciated. The first one to chimpout and scream "YANKI IMPERIALISM" was precisely Hugo Chávez

>>135696452
yeah the new general who came into southcom is kind of an idiot. We were contracting crop dusters in Columbia to spray coca fields and he cancelled the program.

It set back 6 years of work in the course of a few months and no theres alot coming up from there

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>>135696167
>fireworks

At least makes it somehwat colorful.

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Official Telegram Group:
http://t.me/VenezueiaGeneral
That is, Venezuela with an i
Venezuela Anons with government or resistencr connections especially welcome

OC VeneWave

>>135696683
>nsa revelations
yeah there is that too.
>>135696219

>>135692471
>>135692532
>>135693075
>>135693111
>oppposittion is just a bunch of ragetards protesters
what a surprise... no idea why people don´t vote against the dictatorship of maduro

>>135696018
>poverty came in the eighties
>the average slav lived a boring life where he was born, raised under propaganda, only consumed propaganda entertainment, could consume porn because it was western degeneracy, all it's life had to ask permission to their local authority to do anything, couldn't open their own bussiness, after studying in college had to work on what their leaders in moscow decided, had not real liberty, had to wake up at 6AM and go to work in their goverment mandated job, had not real entertainment beyond what their govement mandate him, had to wait until they got their ration so he can wait in a bread line to buy goverment state brand of food because he had not real choice of what to buy, can't afford to get the popular shit because theres shortgages of anything popular, meanwhile there's plenty of waste in shit people don't want but their leader think they need, all so you can fuck your state apointed wife, meanwhile you can smuggle from the black market some alcohol and cigarrettes to forget your boring, commie life in a boring commie bloc because fuck private property, meanwhile you wait for the goverment to send you to some gulag to die.

wow, wtf I love communism.

>>135693075
All those dirt bikes. Shame if someone strung piano wire across a road.

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>>135695663
They've only gone as far as to apply sanctions. I'd assume would not like a repressive dictatorship to rise within their hemisphere, especially one that is narcostate and has given passports to ISIS and Hezbollah.

http://www.businessinsider.com/new-venezuela-vice-president-has-ties-to-iran-hezbollah-2017-1

>>135696926
Straight to archive
https://archive.is/GcKSm

>>135696310
yeah, except the biggest problem now in capitalism is obesity.

but yeah, I guess starvation is pretty cool.
faggot.

>>135696821
>We were contracting crop dusters in Columbia to spray coca fields and he cancelled the program.
>It set back 6 years of work in the course of a few months and no theres alot coming up from there
How would stopping to fertilize the fields increase cocaine production?

>>135696837
>>135696683
I could name a few more governments who spy on other countries' communications. Brazil just took it too personally but they weren't the only government wiretaped by Obama's cabinet

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>>135696152
kek

>>135692156
>government: commie shills
>protestors: Soros shills

I'm siding with massive civil war with millions killed. It's better because it discredits the left even more in the rest of Latin America.

>>135697072
my bad I should have been more specific. We were spraying herbicides with the crop dusters

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>>135692672
LMAO

>>135691315
Reminder that the USA are behind those violent protests, forcing venezuelian authorithies to use lethal force and then punishing those authorities with sanctions
...all of that while they complain about Russia """"" hacking""""" their election with nigerian level phishing skills.

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>>135697222
Checked and keked at the cucked.

>>135697153
This, just love to see another socialist shithole crash and burn.

>>135696793
it was still unconstitutional and illegal. US backed it tho. Next you are going to argue that re-opening that US airbase in Paraguay was just a coincidence yes?

>>135694826
They don't care about consistency, they care about power.

While we wait for more happenings post old shit from Ukraine

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>>135697262

>>135697262
Are you seriously?

Thoses "violent protests" are made mainly by kids of 15 years old without gun or anything.

Suuure, thoses kids are CIA proxxy

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>>135696926
*The US

>>135697262
Can't tell if you niggers are real or not anymore lmao.

>>135697222
>>135692672
REMOVE

>>135696926
Well yeah but that would be an excellent reason to not just do economic sanctions but to actively overthrow the government, wouldnt it?
Also Im having some trouble believing that he supported ISIS if he has ties to Iran and Hezbollah. No one who isnt openly aligned with the US has been caught assisting ISIS.

>>135697213
Weeeeeeeeeelllll.....
Good thing he shut it down then m80. Start enforcing better drug policies and stop destroying random farmers livelihood.
How would you like Iran poisoning US wheat fields because they decide that gluten needs to be exterminated?

>>135696835
bump, thanks for posting my OC but yeah... mostly looking for spics that want to join.

>>135696213
Maduro sounds like he could start crying at any second now for all its worth. Looks like those sanctions hurt him really bad.

>>135697262
you forgot that we also forced Chavez to pour all of Venezuela's oil revenue into welfare instead of other parts of their economy.

>>135697091
>Be huezil
>discover massive oil fields
>decide to auction a few of them
oh yeah spying on strategic assets is totally fair.

>>135697580
false equivalency. Colombian government invited us and assisted with the program because they dont want to go back to the 80s.
It wasn't exactly cloak and dagger

>>135697532
Yeah, but they could at least be a little subtle about. No point in arguing over "real" socialism and what-not once you realize the true goal of the left is to destroy western culture and civilization.

>>135697516
No. I'll leave it that way because it looks like the only way you can agree with the average latin american is blaming the USA for everything while messing it all almost single handedly ourselves
>inb4 america's lapdog, cain of latin america and other epithets leftards use against Colombia

>>135697580
>wheat can be compared to coca leaf

>>135697818
They don't even realize. At the same time they praise Cuban, Iranian and Hezbollah support for Venezuela and then criticize foreign intervention.

Leftists don't think like you and me, like human beings. They are little more than automatons only concerned with amassing absolute political power.

>>135691660
They need to start killing police

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>>135697690
I'm not saying they are good at economy, I'm saying your country tries to destabilize this country since the Bush era. And in the end if they want to throw their economy down the gutter, that's their own problem, not yours.

>>135694651
7 people electrocuted while looting bakery, what the fuck

>>135697838
But the USA does destroy nations and then lie to its own people about the reasoning. That's called DEEP STATE, it exists WITHOUT BORDERS OR FLAGS.

It CONTROLS the protesters AND parts of the governments.

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When I flee from Venezuela to the US, what country should I say I'm from? Obviously once I leave I never want to be associated with this shithole ever again, and people hate Venezuelans so I don't want to be associated with them either.

As a bonus I have a weird accent due to learning french when I was young, so nobody can tell I'm venezuelan by looks/voice. Gibs ideas.

TELL SOLANO I'M COMING

>>135692471
I hope they killed this driver

>>135698238
Puerto Rico
Just be yourself

Who /CIAshill/ here?

>>135698028
>Leftists don't think like you and me, like human beings.
>human beings
>Brazil
Triple taked on your flag there

>>135698184
>Oy comandante we need to deflate the number of killed opposition, what do?
>Say that they died by accident, and make it look like they were stealing shit.

>>135698238
So you don't look South American and has a weird french accent? Just say you are from some eastern euro country.
Or make some place up that sounds like a real country for shits and giggles. Like the Principality of Belka.

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>>135697580
>Well yeah but that would be an excellent reason to not just do economic sanctions but to actively overthrow the government, wouldnt it?

It would but I assume Trump already has too much on his plate already, and plus intervening in any way sorta enables the chavista narrative of how the U.S. has been sabotaging them for years and how this is all their fault. We'll see what develops.

>No one who isnt openly aligned with the US has been caught assisting ISIS.

He isn't aligned with the U.S. ???

>>135698238
I get by with saying that I'm Spanish. Which I am.

>>135698484
but they are literally ransacking, looting and destroying shit. even the political opposition is denouncing them.
>http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-venezuela-opposition-militants-20170724-story.html

>>135696167
Not bad, wouldn't want those explosives so close to my face in the event the propellant doesn't kick off but then again I'm not starving to death. Hopefully they get some of the military to side with them or cartel arms otherwise these dudes are gonna have a bad time when the gov starts shooting back in earnest. Should be fun to watch.

>>135698615
But seriously how the fuck do you electrocute yourself while looting a bakery

>>135696861
But...that's not true

>>135698238
I was wondering the same thing actually. My name is pretty common worldwide and my last name is is French says google.

>>135698489
I'm afraid they'll ask me about the country if I say I'm from Yurop. I figured nobody cared enough about SA to ask.
Making up some place sounds like a good idea.

>>135698736
just be a nigger and anything is possible

>>135698773
read the based black men of free trade economics book.

>>135698615
Not saying they aren't.
But that certainly looks uncanny, specially if you take into account that the gov controls all media who reported those deaths.

>>135698133
believe it or not if we actually wanted to destabilize Venezuela we could. The 2002 coup had almost 0 support from us, and its not like Venezuelan's powerful bolivar spirit is what is stopping us. The mess they're in right now is because of their own economic policies.

>>135698613
>No one who isnt openly aligned with the US has been caught assisting ISIS.
By that I mean that Im heavily doubting that Maduro is or was supporting daesh. Quick google also doesnt find anything on the matter.
I can see him working with Iran and Hezb very well though.

>>135694973
>those CIA larping, starbucks drinking "street resistance" faggots, "accidentially" captured by high res professional cameras

If someone in the west can't see that the Ukrainian coup was organized by western intelligence after Yanukovych refused to sign the EU/Ukraine trade deal, then they will never see anything. They have truly swallowed the blue pill.

To buy into that logic, you'd have to believe the thing that set Ukranian nationalists to rise up spontaneously was because they wanted Ukraine to become just another EU colony with rthe whole works - refugee acceptance quotas, an economy run by Germany and the ECB etc.

The US and EU had an interest in the Ukranian coup happening, the only unresolved question is who had more boots on the ground for the intelligence operation. From what I gather, the CIA and the like were the most involved, but the owl of Minerva takes flight at dusk.

>>135698238
Let some negro fuck your wife and say you are french

>>135698794
just tell them you're cuban, mexican or argentinian.

normies think argentina as white country.

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>>135698238
canada

>>135698969
>cuban
Would rather stay Venezuelan than be a Cuban rat. Argentina is a good idea too, but they have a strong accent no? Or do normies not know that?

>>135698794
Get a fictional country from a movie, vydia or book
kek sounds like a fun idea
You can always say it's a small island in Central America, there's so much shit there no one is going to bother to check

>>135699183
What about french guyana?

>>135698902
>their own
you mean international marxist kikery

>>135698937
He DOES work with Iran
Chavez had very open links with Ahmadinejad back then.
There are a big lebanese diaspora in Venezuela, even the current vicepresident of Venezuela descends from lebanese migrants and is accused of drug trafficking

There are crazy (but not proven yet not dismissed) stories out there about a flight route from Caracas to Beirut and (maybe) Teheran codenamed "Aeroterror" who smuggled cocaine from Venezuela to the middle east

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>>135698184
>>135698736
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-21/eight-venezuelans-electrocuted-death-while-looting-bakery-amid-massive-protests
>>135698900
CNN is doing a fine job of saying that all deaths are in the hands of maduro tho. >>135694651

>>135699183
I don't think they can tell apart spanish accents unless you're a native speaker.

do most latinos can tell apart english regional accent?

>>135699288
This sounds good, nobody gives a single fuck about this place so I can bullshit as much as I want and I have an excuse for my accent. I don't even know what happens there.

>>135691513
>back tattoo
fucking disgusting indio mudblood

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>>135698937
I was talking about the Vice President Tareck El Aissami, who has links to Hezbollah. You may be right on the ISIS part.

>>135699183
coño di que eres de españa y ya

>>135699183
just rant "she boludo, voh vení y dejá de jalahme lah pelohta que no soy ningún vishero negrocabeza caribeño"

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>>135699350
>try to steal a refrigerator (????????)
>throw water at electric fence for some reason
>touch it
>die
>repeat 7 more times
this can't be real

>>135691790
only haitians for you weon

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>>135699531
MORE LATINA QTIES WITH TAN LINES, PLEASE

>>135699717
have you heard of nerve gas?

>>135699384
I know I can. I mean I don't know where they're from but I can tell the difference. I guess it is harder for spanish since most people don't speak it.

>>135694973
>ignores corrupt yanukovich regime
>it was the cia

>>135699802
Unless it's near the Mexico border

>>135699802
just speak with vos and use boludo and che boludo a lot.

most normie girls wont tell the diference.

>>135699317
>supports Iran
>supports Hezbollah
>possibly brings drugs to the middle east
>all this just to fuck with the US and Israel
Holy shit I guess I know which side I support now!

>>135699531
>A ba'athist in Venezuela
Holy cow didnt see that coming. That makes the whole decision on who to support there a good bit easier.

>>135699790
Whoa CIA is early with chemical weapons card, getting desperate?

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>>135700300

>>135700415
>tfw Maduro got the nerve gas from the vice president's transactions with Iran

>>135700415
I cant speak orc

>>135700779
Atention International comunity:
Care and NicolasMaduro stars using chemical weapons like is happening in Siria.

>>135700779
Some (((oppostion))) leader sperging out on twitter that Maduro was gonna unleash his chemical weapons on protestors. This was right around the alleged Apr4 sarin attack in syria.

>>135700415
Barrel bombs when?

Also:
>Syria: opposition are literally CIA backed al qaeda terrorist, lefties say muh ebin assad lets support rebels
>Venezuela: opposition are people tired of communism, lefties say protesters are CIA backed terrorist

>>135701100
checked
>lefties say protesters are CIA backed terrorist
are people actually saying that? last article I read about the muh peaceful protestors had actual opposition denouncing the niggers ransacking, looting and destroying property. >>135698615

>>135701100
Don't know much about Syria, did the US lose control over ISIS and was it intended all along to destabilize the region?

>>135700994
Nice, cant wait for new Gas Attack sequel from Hollywood

>>135701299
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Which-Way-Out-of-the-Venezuelan-Crisis-20170730-0024.html

>The international media has played its role, framing the question as simply a matter of time: when will the democratically elected and legitimate president step down? Never mind that, even amid the crisis, Maduro is still more popular than Mexico’s Enrique Peña Nieto, Colombia’s Juan Manuel Santos, and the unelected and illegitimate Brazilian coup-president Michel Temer. These important details disappear in the fog of a relentless media onslaught, backed by both the CIA and the Trump administration.

>>135701443
tldr is vetted US-backed "rebels" turned out to be moderate headchoppers.

>>135701443
Isis is one thing, the "moderate" rebels(green on the maps) are al-qaeda (and other yihadist groups) and US/Turkey/Saudi/Qatar backed

>>135694651
What's the source for this image? (a twitter account is not a source).
Not that it matters. The fact they blame the opposition "indirectly killed by opposition violence" over some retards trying to steal a refrigerator betrays their bias enough.

Why no live streams? Where do the videos come from unless someone is streaming?

>>135701647
>telesur
megashill-shit-tier version of RT

>>135701997
agreed, I just wanted to find a left source that blamed the CIA

>>135701729
>https://twitter.com/MikePrysnerhe spent some time there with abby martin. good podcast to listen about their experience there:
>https://shadowproof.com/2017/06/11/interview-martin-prysner-venezuelan-opposition-violence/

>>135701927
Srsly, need a stream naow

>>135701997
>>135701647
We should make some kind of list of government and opposition media so people stop quoting shit like Telesur

>>135702210
stuff is sporadic, not as centralized as say, Ukraine uprising was.

>>135702210
Where are all these fabulous Webm's coming from

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>>135701299
>one nigger ransacks a store for some booze while a protest is happening
Woah, the madness. So this is the true face of the opposition. Fuck off Pablo.

>>135701647
For the love of god, stop linking Telesur.
>>135684759

>>135702417
People recording with their phones and uploading them later. Our internet is too shitty to stream anything

>>135702517
>long live muh anarchists bro
neck yourself

>>135702622
Be safe anon. the only periscope was from Maduro -

>>135701647
>telesur

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>>135702417
Personally I check https://twitter.com/albertort51?lang=en

and

http://www.chismeven.net/ which is like the liveleak of Venezuela.

>>135702662
>Like the looters who wear masks when they ransack shops. They're criminals exploiting the chaos on the streets, said Fernando Fernandez, who owns a liquor store in Caracas. A dozen of them broke in on a recent Friday and made away with a trove of booze. "This is the first time anything like this has ever happened," he said. "They weren't the resistance, they were thugs."

From your own article dumbass.

>>135702828
When is Columbia invading?

>>135702828
>>135702517
see
>>135702156

>>135692588
Not at all, it wasn't muh real gommunsim?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8LtQhIQ2AE

FFS all through these times up here the border guards up north in Finnmark used to carry with them either rations or a chocolatebar to starve those starvin russians. It was highly illegal to give away, but you didn't have the heart to do otherwise. Kinda hard to explain to if you haven't been up there before, but it's a flat endless nothing with shitloads of snow.

When you walk up there in that cold and suddenly encounter a human being, it's hard to just well go and pretend as nothing, so is what they did. The very least give them some damn food, even though we were supposed to be enemies and stuff

>tfw warm and fuzzy because this reminds me of the clanking

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>>135702998

>>135702517
>>one nigger ransacks a store for some booze while a protest is happening
>>135702843
You literally said it is "one case" when it's clearly many and happening all the time. Are you not following the thread? >>135699350

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>>135702828
>>135702889
Venezuela esta Colombia. Remove Oil! Remove Oil! You are Venezuela smell!

>>135702196
>abby martin
A literal RT and Telesur employee. Awesome start.
>https://shadowproof.com/2017/06/11/interview-martin-prysner-venezuelan-opposition-violence/
She goes as far as denying food shortages, blaming a shadowy conspiracy of targeted buying. If you are so far in denial I don't know what I could possibly tell you. You might as well be quoting Alex Jones.

>>135703115
>2k17
>no multiplayer open world survival crafting early access vydia set in venezuela
we should fund this

>>135703373
>le food shortage meme
t. cnn

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>>135699350
>bakery
dear God, it's turning into Syria now

>>135703467
except that le based peaceful protestors are the ones destroying them this time!

>>135702889
Never
Our government renounced on expanding its military

>>135703467
They tried stealing a refrigerator.
Why.

>>135703461

yeah that only happens when government fucks up

>>135703215
Nigga ransackings and robberies happen EVERY day. Not only on days of protest. Getting robbed is part of daily life in Venezuela, it has nothing to do with protests.

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>/pol/ has become so contrarian that now defends a fucking commie

>>135703661
>imblyign

>>135698238
Fuck off, we're full.

>>135703644
There is literally no one starving in memezuela right now. Actual food shortage right now is Yemen.

>>135703661
>assadniggers
>pol

who do you guys unironically support ?

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>>135692148
> venezuela
> fourth economy of the world under fascism
> african shithole under communism

>>135703461
So there's no food shortages according to you? Have you ever spoke to a venezuelan that has migrated to your country?

>>135703825
opposition, because they're larping as crusaders

>>135703825
None. Both sides are shit.
>>135703876
Yes, during the world cup and olympics I met quite a few.

>>135703661
You're forgetting when the opposed the nationalists during the Ukranian revolution too.

You just learn to ignore /pol/ after a while and just come for the news.

>>135703825
None, just want to see them kill each other.

>>135703825
The fall of chavismo
Those niggers have fueled a ton of problems here in our country.

>>135703461
t. half a dozen Venezuelans that moved into my university over the past 3 years.
I guess they uprooted their lives and set their graduation back a year or more for fun.
I guess my other friend who visited Venezuela and couldn't buy basic shit like milk, eggs or cheese was just joking around.

I guess its all a big conspiracy of people I know personally lying to me or being lied to by their about what is going on in their country. Yes that's must be it.

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>>135703766
Hello td

>>135703961
right, and what have they told you?

>>135703825
Neutral. This is a no win situation with silver lining. It's no win in that both sides are just different kinds of leftists. But it's a win in that leftists are gonna kill each other.

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>>135703755
>>135703461
>>135701694
>>135703547
t.lula la

>>135703766
>nupol
>pol

>>135703825
Some bastardized version of Spanish Falangists

So realistically, no one

>>135703461
t. Brazilian who doesn't live in Venezuela yet thinks he knows more than people who do.

>>135704064
*being lied to by their families

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>>135696152
>unicorn
I'm afraid there is no such thing, that was just us ripping off richies down in europe back in the day when we did the fickificki. We used to tell emperors the the tooth from this whale was from such fairytale horses, but it was just a whale tooth all along. It's time to come clean I suppose. They gave away they fortune for a couple of these

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>>135703825
maduro: jewish communist
opposition: jewish cia
no one

>>135704041
Oh yeah I forgot about that, /pol/ has become a bunch of LARPers now.

>>135703825
I support venezuelan pan-arabism.
Am hoping for edgy LARPers with sick battle armor though.

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>>135703215
Lootings have been happening everyday throughout the entire year you fucking monkey. Stop trying to spin this narrative that the opposition is encouraging it.

>>135703461
Alright, there's no point..

>>135704163
can someone suicide bomb pt headquarters already

>>135704356
>now

>>135704261
None are starving tho.
>>135704163
imbliying.jpg
>>135704386
Never said that. Even shared the article that opposition is telling "muh peaceful protestors" to stop looting, ransacking, destroying property.

NEW BREAD
>>135704558
FRESH BREAD
>>135704558
NEW BREAD
>>135704558
FRESH BREAD
>>135704558
NEW BREAD
>>135704558
FRESH BREAD
>>135704558
NEW BREAD
>>135704558
FRESH BREAD
>>135704558

>>135704258
>memeflag
reveal your flag somalian

>>135704520
3 years ago was not that much, at least for me.

>>135704346
>a former bus driver
always cracks me up