Communism just means sharing you Fasctards

>>135675636
You must be terrible at sharing.

>>135675636
You're not entitled to other people's property, commie filth.

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>>135675636
sharing other peoples stuff without their consent aka theft.

>>135675636
on this episode of ''the left can't meme'',

>>135675770
Your property is an illusion, faggot.
Your land is worthless, your assets are worthless.

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>>135675636
Read that as fastcars

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>>135675735
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>>135675869
triggered trumptards LOL

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>>135677359
We won, you lost. Get over it.

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>>135675869
our memes are way funnier

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BASH THE FASC!

>>135675864
I wanna smash the statues, exhume the body and put his corpse on trail for the billions of death and suffering his ideology has caused.

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>>135678306
I respond to you, but you couldn't afford the bandwidth.

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>>135675636
Fascism means working together for the good of your nation, family and people. I consider these to be far nobler aspirations than pursuing a vague notion of equality which doesn't actually exist.

>>135675636
Communism is unattainable, you need a state to enforce Bolshevism but Communism is supposed to have no state.

>>135678945
because of capitalism? ;)

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>>135679395
Not my fault you're a lazy fuck up.

>>135675636
No it doesn't. It means giving everyone the same reward regardless of contribution. Which means that people who contribute more get less than what they deserve, and people who contribute less get more than they deserve. Reward becomes inflated and meaningless, incentives are gone and hard work becomes futile.

A communistic society necessitates that everyone is a nerd who wants to do art and science all day. People aren't like that generally.

Wave a hammer and sickle flag near Holodomor and see how fast it takes for you to lose all your teeth.

>>135679523
Capitalists are lazy. Communism is about working together and ending forced labour

>>135675878
If they are worthless, why I should share it?

>>135679735
Or we could reach a compromise with fascism. Many communists voluntarily joined the Nazis btw.

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This is such a lame bait thread.

>>135679008
No, fascism means putting the nation (or collective) over the individual. Which is mistaken because the purpose of the nation is not the nation itself, but to give rise to the individual.

>>135675878
Give me your stuff then

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>>135677359
>the left can't meme

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>>135675636
COMMIES NEED TO TAKE A SHOWER

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>>135679935
or you could be bashed because your FASH who doesnt care about the LGBTQ+ community.

>>135679996
A successful society needs a balance between collectivism and individualism. Fascism provides this.

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>>135679735
>ending forced labour
under communism you are forced to work to support the lazy
under capitalism you are forced to work to support yourself
under feudalism you are forced to work to support the king
under fascism you are forced to work to support the state
under slavery you are forced to work
under survivalism you are forced to work to not die

What you want is magic abundance

>>135675770
You arent. The raw idea of communism is that people will give their personal belongings to form a collective communist society where everyone would be equal, by everything being owned by the goverment, and the government being an extension of the people.

>>135675636

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Communism is literally advanced and humane capitalism.

Capitalism:
>Creates abundance of excess and waste
>Enforces unnecessary class conflict
>Workers are systematically alienated from their labor
>Owners profit simply by owning the means of production
>People consider their brethren competitors
>Life becomes little more than acquiring the means for happiness

Communism
>Workers seize means of wasteful production to create enough for everyone
>Class divisions dissipate as everyone is an equal worker
>Workers find meaning in their work
>The people at large own and share the means of production
>People consider their brethren their brethren, competition becomes unncessary
>Life becomes about living

The USSR and China failed miserably because they never had capitalist infrastructure in place. Their industrialization programs, little more than state capitalism, allowed and embraced wide-scale corruption. In the US, Britain, and Europe-- where capitalist infrastructure has been in place for decades-- Communism would work wonderfully.

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>>135680561
you literally are stupid.
Capitalism didnt build the roads and drumpf wants to take healthcare away and kill people

>>135680747
To add, communism, and any form of government attracts people who like power, and because of this, it causes corruption.

>>135679735
>Capitalists are lazy.
Your computer , internet provider , cell phone , hd tv...All of it is the product of capitalism.

>>135680543
No. It is excessively authoritarian.

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>>135680995
>drumpf

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>>135680462
All degeneracy must be purged for a people to realise their full potential.

This is something Stalin also understood.

Uh no, sommunism is a socioeconomic system where ownership and means of production are are controlled by the shared commons, or the "people", and if you can't see why this is a catastrophic model in the current world, you missed the last 70 years of history

>>135681132
Sometimes the state knows best.

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>>135675636
Communism was never meant for niggers. It was meant for industrialized Europe.

Is this the same ancap, who was having a LARP the other day?

>>135675636
Wasnt it about not sharing you 'surplus labor' though
Why do you faggots changing your message every few years?

>>135680462
>muh LGBTQAWEOSLADSDKASDLNSADFLJK:):)
Fuck off. The working class is all that matters. If the working class doesn't like niggers or fags then there will be no niggers or fags in the proletarian state.

>>135681132
totally unlike every enhancement of state power under socialism and communism

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>>135681309
Sometimes the state will abuse its absolute authority to enrich itself and provide nothing for its people. It's especially easy in Fascism, where class divisions are explicitly enforced and approved of.

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>>135675636
That's called charity.

>>135675636
I don't want to. I want you to starve and die, because I see you as innately inept, and your unacceptable level of needs will never end.
Curl up and starve. Make the human gene pool better. It doesn't need dependent losers that bitch about others. It needs strong individuals, for a strong collective. You're simply weak. End it for the greater good.

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>sharing

>>135675636
Communism is just a gulag run by jews

>>135677802
pic related is all your food

remember in return of the king, tolkien relates that saruman let loose his half-orcish henchmen on the hobbits of hobbiton. at first to trick them they said they were going to control all produce and "share" equally with all the people. inevitably only the most powerful shared amongst themselves and the hobbits starved.

also remember aesops fable about sharing as well. it is the best anti communist piece made and it was written by a slave of the greeks!

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>>135677802
Are you self-employed or working in a coop or commune right now?

>>135681309
Sure, sometimes. But the state is a group of people, not God.

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>>135680747
>In the US, Britain, and Europe-- where capitalist infrastructure has been in place for decades-- Communism would work wonderfully
Except that same prosperity that communism requires to "work" is also why these countries will never accept communism.

>>135675636
"No"

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>>135681994
I am not going to support Capitalism so no... I am moving to Freetown Christiania soon before drumpf and the rest of the nazis start to round people up

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>>135680462
Most of you idiots idolize people who persecuted gays.I'd say all in all that you have the mental capacity of a goldfish.

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>>135682202
Why do people on here praise a US-propped up dictator, who ruined his country's economy, committed human rights violations, and overthrew one of the most successful and peaceful socialists in human history?

>>135675636
Good, I'm coming to town to share you up.

>>135681500
I'm not a commie. Read my other posts

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>>135682442
Why don't you just move there right now?

>>135682612
Need guns?I'm sure you could share a bullet or two with him.

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>>135675636
communism, lol. what kind of retard still believes that shit can work? it takes a real confused motherfucker, after everything that happened involving communism in the 1900's, to still be preaching communism. you may as well offer everyone aids and diabetes you fucking dumb reject. stop doing stupid things to fit in with people that dont even like you. it is better to be alone and have integrity.

>>135679735
Nobody forces you to work.. Troll confirmed

>>135675636
Why should I share? And every sane person will ask the same question.
That's why in every attemp to build communist society, it was enforced. But it still failed time and time again.

>>135682603
Step 6: bring wealth and prosperity to the chilean people.

Your step 3 is misleading. He only stepped on the commie chileans

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>>135675636
sage..

Also its forced "sharing" so i think the word you are looking for is stealing.

LOL I GOT HELICOPTER CAPTCHA ITS A SIGN!

>>135677802
i beg to differ. that's fucking awful, and I don't have any personal animosity towards yall or your ideology

>>135680561
>under communism you are forced to work to support the lazy
>under capitalism you are forced to work to support yourself
>under feudalism you are forced to work to support the king
>under fascism you are forced to work to support the state
>under slavery you are forced to work
>under survivalism you are forced to work to not die
>What you want is magic abundance


this is the truth.. sad thing is so many people think everything just magically appears.

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>>135675636
no its the way for the powerful Jews they not only material but ideological power to over the masses

>>135680616
There's no government in communism, you're talking about socialism.
And most people won't give away their property voluntarily. So this idea is shit.

>>135682442
Of course you are, you lazy, skill-less pothead.

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>>135681100
This can be averted through direct democracy at local and city levels, who themselves elect representatives for a nation-wide senate. You can help ensure anti-corruption by making the government as transparent as possible and dedicating a day of the week strictly for politicking at local levels. Everyone is a part of the government under Communism.

>>135682836
see
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>>135680747
>>Workers seize means of wasteful production to create enough for everyone
>>Class divisions dissipate as everyone is an equal worker
>>Workers find meaning in their work
>>The people at large own and share the means of production
>>People consider their brethren their brethren, competition becomes unncessary
>>Life becomes about living
Literally a bunch of nonsense that has nothing to do with reality. But keep dreaming, commie.

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>>135683381
This is apparently what an "anarchist" society would look like.
>tfw when the USA has more freedoms than the anarchist utopia

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>>135683697
Hope you're enjoying your Neofeudalism Russia

>>135680747
also, they crippled themselves for ideological reasons.

>>135675636
how come communists never offer to share their own stuff, it's always someone else that has to do the sharing?

>>135683708
To be fair, no hard drugs, no violence and no stolen goods is preferable

>>135675636
Sharing would imply it is voluntary

>>135675636
Too late. We have all the guns already.

VENEZUELA

>>135681209
>in the current world
No. It has nothing to do with the state of current world. Communism simply goes against nature of living beings.
So unless humans evolve into something completely different, it won't work.

>>135675636
it isn't sharing, it's stealing by threat of violence.

Guys remember that one time communism actually worked?

Me neither

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>:(

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>>135683501
im not seeing shit you dumb fuck knuckle. take your commie shit and shove it up your ass.
1 indicator says your either a trolling little bitch, or you have no balls:
you are still here. communism is not going to happen, ever, in the us. but, you are free to go somewhere where you could be the missing piece of the puzzle, norko, whatever. but you are still here, because your either a pussy with a severe lack of integrity, or an attention whoring troll. your day is coming.

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>>135683939
Why do you try to act like you know everything?Fucking sick of americans trying to tell other nations who have already been through this garbage that they are wrong.

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>>135684336
While I agree with those rules, all but the "no violence" part make no sense in an anarchist society. How can there be stolen goods when there's no property? How can hard drugs be banned without laws? How can weapons be banned when Marx himself said the proletariat should be armed?

Not to mention the place just looks dirty from what I've seen, like there's no one to clean up the trash and grime that accumulates.

>>135675636
Stealing also means sharing by force.

>>135684709
Do you really expect anarchokiddies to be consistent?

>>135675636
>Communism just means sharing you Fasctards
Sharing implies consent.

>>135677802
>our memes are way jewier
FTFY

>>135678306
I'd like to see you try.

>>135679395
Capitalism is just as Jewish as Communism.

>>135680462
Jews promote faggotry as well.

>>135680995
Commies should be killed.

>>135675636
Fascism just means taking control back from your subverted homeland

>>135684709
shhhh

>>135680462
What? I've seen you stupid faggots in action. I've seen you faggots run from smoke grenades like your lives depended on it. The first time the gloves come off, your world is going to get rocked like you wouldn't believe.

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>>135683856
Kek

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>>135684595
Can you learn how to argue before you spout random, useless garbage? I'm currently involved with DSA; my ideal is to transform the local political system into a direct democracy.

>>135684684
>Why do you try to act like you know everything?
It's pretty easy when nobody on this board knows fucking anything.
I also already explained earlier why USSR communism was a mistake from the beginning. They royally fucked up because they needed to implement capitalist infrastructure, and failed miserably at doing that.

>>135680747
>Communism would work wonderfully.
No, it wouldn't, because you'd have to take my shit, and when you came to take my shit, I'd get real salty and start sniping commies. And I'm far from the only one.

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>>135685528
Dissolution of private property is a long term goal. It'd happen after Socialism, which allows for private property, just not private industry. The primary goals are seizing the means of production; something wageslaves don't really have to worry about.

Not to mention that this *can* all be done peacefully; it just likely won't.

>>135685280
>that communism.
someone can make a business and have the workers own it here in america. you are free to do that and it works for the most part.

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>>135685949
I think your missing the most important part, why on Earth would anybody agree to such a system?

>>135685949
It's not going to happen. The people who have the productive land will simply cut you off and starve you.

>>135686025
You're allowed, but as a worker you're unlikely to ever encounter it. Especially if the only viable industries in your area are factory work or its analogues. The means of producing any such business, too, are inevitably owned by the rich, and thus the bar of entry for any such business to arrive, given that the bar of entry is so high.

But it is encouraging that more businesses like that are arising:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/18/cope-capitalism-failed-factory-workers-greek-workplace-control

>>135686120
Because it's in your best interest. It's designed to be for everyone's best interest. It's designed to dissolve arbitrary competitive and class differences between you and your neighbor. The whole point is to take our system; which creates an abundance of wealth for the few, stealing it from the lower classes, is shared.

The only people who ought to fear Socialism/Communism, are the excessively rich owners.

>>135686204
Unlikely. Why would they? And would they even have the choice too if the Agriculture industry (where, in America alone, 40% of all food is wasted) is nationalized?

>>135686793
Always archive
https://archive.is/X8GPQ

>>135685949
Also, good luck destroying the state in the end.

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>>135686793
>It's designed to dissolve arbitrary competitive and class differences between you and your neighbor
You're not the only one promising to fix class conflict.

>>135686793
Not unlikely. Certain. If you think any of the ranchers in my state are just going to give you their land without putting a bullet in your head, or are going to do the work of raising cattle and crops to send it to somebody who wants to seize their property, you are insane.

>>135686876
The people become the state and the state the people. This isn't to say that there's no longer any form of governance, but there's simply no longer any difference.

>>135686986
Nazism believes that if you unite people by race or culture, you eliminate class warfare. This is beyond naive.
So long as the workers do not own direct control over their work; so long as they spend their labor for the sake of someone whose lifestyle far exceeds the quality of their own, there will be class conflict.

>>135687260
You also misunderstand. Little changes in the process for, in this example, cattlemen who work on their own land, own their own means of production. Their work is simply nationalized, taken up by the people. This does not need to be done by force at all, for instead of selling their labor for the sake of profit, it is given to the people and they receive a labor voucher, guaranteeing them their daily needs. (Which, within America, is incredibly feasible.)

Little changes in the actual work process; it's not as if they're forced off their land (what would be the point of that?), but profit is eliminated, and society as a whole benefits in an equal trade. (Daily labor for daily needs)

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>>135675864
>sharing other peoples stuff without their consent aka theft
this. simple. 'nuff said.

>>135687962
>Their work is simply nationalized, taken up by the people.
You mean their land is stolen. I know the ranchers here. You go and start telling them who to hire and how to run their shit, and they're going to tell you to fuck off. Push the issue, and you'll wind up dismembered and either fed to the hogs, or the coyotes in some mountain range that you've never heard of.

Communism ignores that, throughout millions of years of evolution, it has been bred into us to want to gather more resources than the next guy to attract a better mate. If the opportunity is not there for people to do that, you'll have to run an oppressive state to get people to go along. People respond to incentive, and communism removes rational incentive.

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>>135687962
>Nazism believes that if you unite people by race or culture, you eliminate class warfare. This is beyond naive.
>>135687962
>So long as the workers do not own direct control over their work; so long as they spend their labor for the sake of someone whose lifestyle far exceeds the quality of their own, there will be class conflict.
Why? What makes your system less naive? What makes you think that you can eliminate class at all?

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>>135675636
no, communism is anti-liberty, anti-property-rights.
It is the opposite of freedom.
I grew up in eastern Europe, we had communism. It is evil, and run by evil pieces of shit. If it depends on me some point, I would kill all communists.

>>135688530
Communism is the ideology of those who know they aren't remotely capable, even in the best of circumstances, to be the ones who get said better mate.
Communism is for losers.

>>135689292
its when the parasites form a mafia, take over the state to keep the hosts like cattle. fukin evil, its just wrong. incapable parasites should have less rights. the smart/strong/beautiful should rule, not the parasites.

>>135689292
And capitalism is for jews and their white cucks

>>135675636
k share the barrel of my gun

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>>135688530
>You mean their land is stolen
Its purpose is simply changed.
>You go and start telling them who to hire and how to run their shit
Why would this happen? Ranchers know their work better than anyone. If the workers already own the ranches, then, again, little changes in the Ranch's day to day operations. Like I said in an earlier post, Socialism & Communism are little more than advanced capitalism. What most dramatically changes is how social institutions are organized, profit is eliminated, and the workers organize themselves in the workplace.

>it has been bred into us to want to gather more resources than the next guy to attract a better mate
Despite the fact that people can, have, and will continue to share things when resources are ample?

>People respond to incentive, and communism removes rational incentive.
Not at all. Everyone's incentive is to do what's necessary (work) in order to live. The aim is to make this easier for everyone by nationalizing private industry. I'd encourage you to look up Redneck Revolt, they're a promising deep south socialist organization, largely made up of people who were tired of Dems/Reps doing nothing to aid their conditions.

>>135688876
>What makes your system less naive?
Because its aware of how classes occur. Classes arise from arbitrary income differences, largely gained by mere relation/heredity. So long as someone can live better than someone else by theft, by not contributing their own work, by claiming the work of others merely because they provided the tools used to complete that work, class will arise and cause conflict. The idle rich will profit from the hardworking poor.
Fascism thinks this injustice and resentment will go away so long as the two have ethnic/cultural ties.
Historically, this has never proven to be true.

If everyone is a worker, contributes to the well being and functioning of society, trades their labor for their needs, how should class arise at all?

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>>135689939
>trades their labor for their needs
How do we determine how much each person gets? How much does each person get paid for their work?

>>135684709

Even is there's no private property, if you steal my toothbrush (with is my own possession), it's still stealing

You can have laws in an anarchist society as long as those laws comes from the community will

And i think guns shouldn't be banned

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>>135689867
>share the barrel of my gun
I'll share some of my ammo stash. just a few well-placed used ones, though.

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>>135675636
Sharing poverty

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>>135690419
>You can have laws in an anarchist society as long as those laws comes from the community will
So basically it's just a democratic government, like Switzerland.

>>135690419
>>135684709

>Freetown Christiania

Didn't know it was referering to a specific place

Actually, what's so hard to imagine about the fact that people living here don't want retards on hard drugs so they just beat with sticks the people that do it until they leave for well ? You don't need a state for this kind of thing

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>>135690740
>people living here don't want retards on hard drugs so they just beat with sticks the people that do it until they leave for well
Replace "people with sticks" with "trained people with sticks" and you've got a state.

>>135689939
>profit is eliminated, and the workers organize themselves in the workplace.
If they can't make a profit, they aren't going to work. You'll have to come in and force them, which gets back to you being dismembered and fed to the hogs.

>I'd encourage you to look up Redneck Revolt, they're a promising deep south socialist organization, largely made up of people who were tired of Dems/Reps doing nothing to aid their conditions.

KEK, I've looked them up. They're a bunch of pussy faggots. They have all of the commie talking points, which always devolves to tyranny and purges when the rubber meets the road. There will always be classes. Different people are different. Your redneck revolt is an example. When they go out shooting, they have a hard time hitting a target at 20 yards. The last animal that I killed I hit at 550 yards. We're just that different.

>>135690323
>How do we determine how much each person gets?
Labor Theory of Value my friend!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_theory_of_value

>How much does each person get paid for their work?
They aren't paid in traditional means, and leftists disagree as to exactly how people ought to be paid; however, there is a striking overlap between notions of the Labour Voucher and the Technocrat's "Energy Token". I think this guy explains it best:
https://youtu.be/5bqPXqYWHlE?list=PLoN5LvyXhurKYsTSiiCTVwARNm-4DZVdU
(around ~40:00)

>>135690527

Yeah except the fact that laws in Switzerland apply to the whole country.

Here they can beat the drugies if they're coming when they live or work, but have no word to say about what happens even 10km away if it's not making them any harm

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>>135689939
you commies are all such starry-eyed simple cunts. how the fuck they convinced any of you that such a bullshit, altruistic ideology with zero basis in reality could ever work is beyond me. let alone in a place like the united states. your whole ideology is based off of revolutionizing and mobilizing the working class but SPOILER ALERT: [spoiler]the entire working middle class thinks you and all your 16yo friends burning trashcans are retarded, and every action your ilk has taken since the election has further alienated them[/spoiler]

instead of focusing your entire movement on identity politic/post-modernist philosophy bullshit, you should work on getting the working class back on your side. and the working class hates all of that shit, so you need to think long and hard about what you actually are politically.

hint: [spoiler]youre a social democrat, not a communist you fucking faggot[/spoiler]

>>135690740
so what happens when the bad dudes come back with more people and more sticks?

>>135690886
>If they can't make a profit, they aren't going to work.
(source needed)
If a person is told that their work will be compensated with the things they need in order to live life fully, they're going to work.

>>135691067
>Blah blah blah.
I also don't really consider myself a communist at all. Most lefties hate Social Democrats, and for damn good reasons, but I think at the moment it's the best path forward to Socialism in the US.
As far as uncuking the working class, it's slowly happening. The American AntiFa (really nothing more than mad smashie liberals with the occasional anarchist) need to take some cues from their European counterparts who actually offer alternative and free resources to their communities.

>>135690867

If they're okay to feed some a big guy so he beat them with sticks so they don't have to do it themselves it's fine. When they don't want to feed him anymore he can go back to harvest his own stuff.

In a real state you would have to go through all the political procedures (maybe decades) if they one time decided that druggies are actually fun to speak with and decide to legalize it

Aren't you yourself mad at laws that have been voted kilometers from where you live and you and all your buddies agree that these laws sucks ?

>>135691405
They take those greedy bastards stuff and start a communist paradise where everything is shared.

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>>135690966
>Labor Theory of Value
The Labor Theory of Value literally discourages efficiency. By basing the value of an item on how much labor went into it rather than how much the people value it, the incentives to produce more go right out the window. A man who can produce 10 diamond rings in a day gets just as much money as a man who can produce 1 diamond ring in a day, because just as much labor went into it, even though the man produced far more.

Furthermore, what about poets and artists? If they produce a song or a poem that no one likes or wants, why should they get paid? Why should their labor be rewarded for producing a worthless item?

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>>135675636
I don't want to share with anybody.

My stuff is mine. My space is mine. My reality is mine.

Fuck off, loser.

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>>135689939
>Ranchers know their work better than anyone.
Have you actually ever spent any time on a ranch?? If so (doubtful) then you know that "their work" isn't just a job. If they don't have both ownership pride and at least the hope (usually false, but still) of getting ahead, there is no way anyone is going to go out everyday and bust their butt to run the ranch.
The problem is not that the gov't would come and "tell them who to hire" (cowboys, duh). They would pretty much just get shot at the fenceline. The problem is that no one is going to feed and doctor the damn cattle.
>Net result: actual nothingburgers for everybody!

>>135691428
>If a person is told that their work will be compensated with the things they need in order to live life fully, they're going to work.

I believe this.
Kek. Just kidding I can't larp as a moron without cracking up and spilling the beans.

>>135691405
Then people have to defend themselves from the danger.

Don't you American guys believe that your gun can protect you from the danger AND the government ? In your case, a policeman could help you I agree.

I don't know if you believe in an authoritarian states, but what if one day, your president tell that you have to invade Canada for natural ressources. You don't want to do it cuz and some cops knock at your door ?

>>135691428
>If a person is told that their work will be compensated with the things they need in order to live life fully, they're going to work.
>a person is told
>told

Aaaand we're to the authoritarian faggotry that commies are so famous for. You WILL work comrade, and I will decide what you need! Have fun being fed to the pigs. Have fun when they start only producing enough for themselves and their friends and families and leave you to starve.

>>135679735
>forced labor
>implying not a major component of the USSR

o boi i am laffin

>>135691852
>>135691405

The very meaning of what i want to say is that natsocs (i don't know if you're one of them) should stop thinking that an autoritarian will always do what they want i.e. save the white race.

Don't forgot what the anglo did to the boer (both Germanic and protestant) in order to get South African diamonds. Also, what Hitler did to Slavics and other Germanics just so his country looks bigger on the map

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>>135691428
>The American AntiFa (really nothing more than mad smashie liberals with the occasional anarchist) need to take some cues from their European counterparts who actually offer alternative and free resources to their communities.
i agree with you here. problem is, the regular joe schmoe thinks you and antifa are the same thing. you need to work on your branding, or better yet re label yourself entirely.

also if you want socialism just go run as a liberal. you will receive no opposition. communism and socialism is exactly what the elite want, as evidenced by the democratic party (and many neocons as well) itself as well as the obvious paid thugs that are antifa. dont waste your time on imageboards, you arent going to convince anyone here

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>tfw capitalism is stupid because private property is a spook
>tfw communism is stupid because morality is a spook

>>135691879
>/pol/ complains about the poor being lazy
>state organized by the public gives people jobs and tells them to work for their daily needs
>WHY IS THE STATE TELLING ME WHAT TO DO??
Come on now.
>Have fun when they start only producing enough for themselves and their friends and families and leave you to starve.
Which is pretty damn impossible in the US.

>>135692236
DSA, despite all their problems, has been doing a really great job at rebranding.
>dont waste your time on imageboards, you arent going to convince anyone here
It's true. I think I've convinced a total of one person to go actually read some of Marx's writings. My main problem is that people on here just really don't know what the fuck Socialism or Communism is, or understand how or why the USSR failed. It's pathetic.

>>135675636
>just
being this simple
good day

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>>135675636
Communism means submitting to Jews.

>>135692810
Do you submit to a Jews words, yes or no.

If no you arent a communist.

>>135692185
dont worry i hate authoritarian states and dictators as well. its the main reason i hate communism. people dont have the capacity to rule over that many people. if they are left unchecked, they will always be corrupted by such a power.

the only things that i find appealing about natsoc is the destruction of central banks, and the idea of labor-backed currency. all other nanny state "anti degeneracy" laws are, and always will be, fucking shit. also the idea of turning a state into a fascist one, and thinking that every other military in the world isnt going to come in and push your shit in, is just as starry eyed and stupid as communism

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>>135675636
>>>/leftypol/

>>135675636
No, Communism means that top party officials get to live a good life, while the rest scrape by.

And coincidentally top officials are jewish.
Oops you've just been gulaged or saying this.


>>135675636

I only want to share with my people though not some niggers

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>>135675636
Why can't commies and sovereign citizens just fuck already? I'm tired of you two flirting and never following through plugging each others' balloon knots.

That's why it always fails people who share are often betas, and betas cannot run a country. Also Karl Marx literally never held a job in his life yet he represents the working class...kek

>>135685280
>your pic
Literally what national socialists figured out and used to pull Germany out of the Great Depression

>>135687962
>so long as they spend their labor for the sake of someone whose lifestyle far exceeds the quality of their own,
Yeah, I think USSR/Cuba/DPRK had that too.

>>135688530
>Communism ignores that, throughout millions of years of evolution, it has been bred into us to want to gather more resources than the next guy to attract a better mate. If the opportunity is not there for people to do that, you'll have to run an oppressive state to get people to go along. People respond to incentive, and communism removes rational incentive
Communism ignores ALL evolutionary biological/psychological mechanisms.. Its a fairy dust castle in the sky made out of double ended dildos.
Mankind has innate natures that conflict with this utopian circle jerk.
Are there improvements that can be made to Western Capitalism.. sure but communism is shit tier fantasy.

>>135675636
Why would people that produce want to share a goddamn thing with ungrateful, useless NEETs?

>>135683708
so basically they are defenseless lol should get /k/ to take them over

>>135692596
>Which is pretty damn impossible in the US.
Unless you change the economic system that has proven to be shit time and time again. I don't want communism. I don't want socialism. Commies don't give a fuck. There is no opt-out in their systems, which is why they typically devolve to violence and purges. Which is why, in the event of a commie revolution in the US, I'll be out to return the favor.

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>>135675636

Sure, I'll gladly share your wife with myself.

>>135679008
>Thinking Hitler was a fascist.

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>>135696412
I wonder what kind of government /k/ would form? A Constitutionalist Republic? A "Service Guarantees Citizenship" country? A military Junta?

>>135675636
Alright, I need your internal organs because reasons, now share them comrade, you are a loyal member of the party, aren't you comrade???

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>>135675636
ASK A FORMER COMMIE ANYTHING AMA

>>135686204
...and good Goys won't even rebell.

The (((System))) is a virus of the mind.

>>135700871
>flag
checks out

>>135691428
One thing is the white working class doesn't just want your typical socialist shit they want to remain a majority in their own country and they don't want globalism like most socialists want

>>135680747
Simplified:

Capitalism creates abundance, workers are exploited, ooga booga we wuz kangz an dose racist whitey at the top be exploitin us an shieeet

Commies are just Working Class tribalist niggers on steroids

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>>135675636
Nah your memes are shit dude. Nothing original. Either way this bait thread is shit

>>135699401
Probably a country where the entire population is the military. Would be kind of cool actually like a modern day Sparta

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>>135675636
SHARING? Here's your cut of my profits....
Don't eat it all in one sitting...

>>135700871
It is just working class idpol, would you agree?
We wuz exploited an shieeet
all yo belongings is ours an shieeeeet
give up your resources or die whitey ooga booga

>>135675636
>Sharing!....Or else!

Communism: The belief that you can get more than you have right now, by getting rid of all the people who have more than you.
Socialism too. Natsoc Ingsoc or not.
(And yes...they ACTUALLY ARE this fucking dumb)

>>135680747
That is an unnatural way for humams to live. We are tribal. We have hierarchy. It is our natural state. Even the most primitive people still practice this. Children in schools practice this. It is a universal human trait. This is why communism always fails.

>>135675636
It means stealing and slavery. It means you're a worthless slave and you'd better like it OR ELSE.