What is Trump Doing To Help Post Secondary Education Students?

>>135655339
20 bucks this idiot majored in some useless nonsense that doesn't make enough to pay back his wasted tuition.

>>135655547
That's absolutely true since there is no worthwhile degrees right now. Better than being unemployed though.

>>135655339
In what way is the education free under Sanders? Do they reinstate slavery and force lecturers to teach for zero pay?

>>135655810
No, they just bring the tuition down to 0

>>135655772
>no worthwhile degree
>better major in something I know is useless

>>135655772
>no worthwhile degrees right now
Then why do you want to waste time going to college

>>135656195
The degree I'm majoring in will let me be working class. If i got no degree at all I'd be unemployed completely. I'd rather be working class.

>>135656288
Because if i don't get a degree I'll be unemployed

>>135655339
>fuck Trump
>papa Trump will you pay for my college


Hahahaha kill yourself fag

>>135655339
Why is the option of being personally responsible for the things you want in the world completely off the table?

>>135656076
And who pays the tuition?

>>135655772
>no worthwhile degrees
>tens of thousands of dollars debt is better than unemployment

I can smell the bait from here. This is where we all post our reddit burnout screencaps where fools with gambling problems throw away hundreds of dollars to the bernie campaign in the hopes that he'll forgive all student loan debt, right?
Just turn on your proxy, OP, and commence the dump like you planned. I could use a laugh.

>>135656519
HAHAHA fuck off. You hate trump but whine when he doesn't block all immigrants.

>>135656374
>What are trades

There's legislation under consideration now that would mandate that universities pay up to 50% of defaulted student loans. This would incentivize them to *not* jack their prices up as high as they can and funnel the money into useless construction projects.

>>135655339
>pay for my university

Said no American kid ever
They would say college
meme flags are cancer

>>135656325
>you don't need a degree to be working class
>trade schools will make you more qualified for a working-class job than a degree in some useless/unrelated field
don't waste your money

If he's not an idiot, he'll kill free education and make way for free market with nice colleges and schools.

>>135655339
>not intelligent enough to go to university in-state and save over $100k dollars
private education is your decision, don't blame others for your wasted money

>>135656076
>they just bring the tuition down to 0
>Socialism: It's Magic™
most socialists don't understand budgetary allocation at all, yet pretend to be experts on it

>>135656757
This is my point once again, lost. The entitlement autism is strong in you isn't it>>135656715

>>135655339
I drank the university koolaid and honestly want their funding gutted so that universities shed their far left parasites.

Now making trade schools tuition free is an idea I can get behind.

>>135656719
The Federal Reserve

>>135656723
It's obvious your trolling. Thread over.

>>135656781
Peasant tier jobs

>>135656816
I go to Harvard, no one calls it College

>>135656820
I want to be working class, not a peasant slave

>>135657044
State schools are for peasants bro. And capitalists don't understand economisc

>>135655339
>sanders: education would be free!
>also sanders: (embezzles a few million from his experimental socialism indoctrination camp)


Huh.... its... its almost as if he was a desperate politician who would say anything to win over a demographic.....

>>135657993
I don't care, I still think education should be free.

>>135656325
>bing this retarded.
Maybe you can explain to me why i dropped out of highschool, got my GED and started making 12$ hour and 16, $20 and hour at 22 years, 30$ an hour at 26yrs, and 40$ an hour at 30 years.

>>135658379
I have no idea what you did.

>>135657884
>state schools are for peasants
I see private school indoctrination worked on you, congratulations you will spend 4-5 years longer in debt assuming average best case scenario upon graduation

>I don't want to be a peasant slave
everyone is a peasant except the people who become powerful through their own volition and/or the encouragement of others. bitching about college tuition on a macrame geocities page is not a good indicator of your ability in this regard

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>>135655339
I dont understand, college isnt a right of course because it leads to higher paying wages and jobs. It cannot be a right because eventually no one will be dumb enough to do the work we need the poor people to do.

We have scholoship programs for the poor people who are gifted eneough to presue an education and community college is affordable for most people.

He wants the really good schools to be free for everyone, fuck that.

>>135658182
I got a story for ya. Okay, so back in the Marines there was this training course, it was SUPPOSED to be an elite course every infantry battalion sent a few individuals to per year. It was 3 months long and basically groomed the best corporals the infantry had to offer to get promoted to sergeant.

Well then, says commandant general Amos, why dont we require EVERY corporal from EVERY MOS to attend it?

It went overnight from an elite 3 month course that almost garunteed promotion to sergeant to a 10 day long powerpoint session people sleep through that meant exactly jack shit.

Turns out things that are rare and were earned by very very difficult work are more valuable than some stupid freebie check in the box. If college became publicly funded the degrees from such schools would become toilet paper overnight.

>>135655339
Bernie Sanders is a dried-up old socialist fool who doesn't know how to connect his ideas to reality. Everything he says is worthless.

>>135658866
>I see private school indoctrination worked on you, congratulations you will spend 4-5 years longer in debt assuming average best case scenario upon graduation
I'm not going to go into debt since even though im a democrat I'm redpilled on ((usury))

>everyone is a peasant except the people who become powerful through their own volition and/or the encouragement of others. bitching about college tuition on a macrame geocities page is not a good indicator of your ability in this regard
No actually, working class people aren't peasants. They are working class and are given more respect

>>135658909
I don't know how to code and at this point im too old to learn

>>135658977
>no one will do the work
Raise their wage then

>>135659125
So artificial scarcity is a solution?

>>135657884
>I want to be working class, not a peasant slave
Then why are you getting a mountain of debt for a useless degree you can't even use in a job field that's only working-class and doesn't require it when you could go to a trade school for much less time/money and instantly be qualified
>you are losing money by going to college for nothing
>you think by saving money and actually gaining value in your skill set by going to trade school you are somehow a peasant slave
>college alone does not make you a suitable candidate

I don't understand this need to get a degree so badly just because it makes you look nice on an application. There's a million other ways to do that for less time and money. Hell, if you're genuinely worried about your degree being useless it would make sense to not go to college until you are sure about what field is going to be the most profitable and shoot for that. Why exactly do you need a degree you are saying you won't use when there are better methods?

>>135658182
>I still think education should be free.
Then join the military and go to school on the GI Bill

Do you think Trump will see to it to let the system fall on its own ala Obamacare in its current state? I hope the future can get a better deal than this generation did. I'm too old for college anyways, and surely don't have $20k for community college tuition.

>>135655339
>threatening not to pay for my university
Move out. Get a job. Pay your own way. The argument goes deeper than you realize.

>>135659461
>Then why are you getting a mountain of debt for a useless degree you can't even use in a job field that's only working-class and doesn't require it when you could go to a trade school for much less time/money and instantly be qualified
I'm not going into debt, my parents are millionaires and i HATE the concept of debt, which is why im so upset they may cut funding. I don't want to go to trade school since i want a job that gets me respect of the elite

>I don't understand this need to get a degree so badly just because it makes you look nice on an application. There's a million other ways to do that for less time and money. Hell, if you're genuinely worried about your degree being useless it would make sense to not go to college until you are sure about what field is going to be the most profitable and shoot for that. Why exactly do you need a degree you are saying you won't use when there are better methods?
IT's about the respect.

>>135659609
If someone has enough cash to get into the military they could easily get their way into university.

>>135655339
Free education? And all I have to do is give the government half my income? Sounds like a great idea! No downsides. Why aren't retarded repbulicans doing this?

>>135659417
they do not deserve a higher wage for the job they are doing. Although it should increase every time inflation increases as well.

>>135659832
>get a job
>and university
>at the same time
Impossible. Besides the tuition is very expensive where i go

>>135660041
Yeah sure, give the government half your income sure

>>135660080
When supply dries up then wages go up in that industry.

>>135659417
>I don't know how to code and at this point im too old to learn
not my fault you didn't get a job an opted for a free ride to extend your adolescents by at-least 4 years.
I was shoveling mulch since i was 14 and shoveling concrete since i was 17. Was in the job force for a decade before I started getting paid decent. I have nothing against education, but american universities indoctrinating you with kike propaganda while fostering a sense of acute entitlement in your minds makes me have zero respect for somone crying about, muh useless ((education))

>>135659417
In germany schools are free. You just have to pass extremeley stringent exams and dont have much of a choice in what career field you study unless you pay for it yourself.

And, its STILL not more acessible than it is now. If you want to pay for a career because they wouldnt pay fir the one you want to do then its even more expensive than the US. On top of that slots are limited by funding so its not like any more people are being admitted just because they passed the tests.

This is authoritarian socialism. You can pay for it yourself and earn your own way or you can be ordered around by the government who is paying the bills. There is no such thing as free lunch, you must put up with one set of bullshit or the other.

Frankly scholarships are a fuckin thing. So is military service. Work harder, sacrifice more, and you wont NEED to sit around whining about not having handouts.

>>135655339
>Revolution this
>Revolution that
Holy fuck this senile old commie is like a broken record.

News flash: there won't be a commie revolution and if you try you'll be gunned down on the street so I sincerely hope you give it a try.

And no fucking way should anyone have to pay for Leshantra's women's studies degree or Tyrese's sports psychology degree.

>>135655772

You've won the retard of the year award, congrats. Software development, mechanical engineering, electrician. Just a few degrees I can name off the top of my head. Enlighten me as to what you wasted mommy and daddies money on? Probably degeneracy

>>135655339
pay for ur own shit u little faget

>>135660203
Stop freaking crying bro. I'm 18 and have been working for 4 years so im like the same as you. Also i don't give a fuck if i get "indocternated" or whatever since when you get a degree you get respect

>>135660224
Stop fucking whining. The German system is shit yes but you can't except people to have enough money to get in the military, and work harder? We're in the 21st century with automation we should be working less than ever. Why work harder?

>>135655339
>post-secondary education "students"
aka the group of people who voted for him the least? i hope he lines the fucking marxist niggers up to the firing squads or sells them to china as human slaves to pay off our debt
that's what i would do
fuck you fuckin kikeworshipping degenerate good goys, death to every last one of you faggots

>>135660197
with new automation tec it wont "dry up", its totally up to the business owner to transition. If all the workers leave and would only come back for 15h when they were making 8h before it would be cheaper to just upgrade to automation.

Then all your poor people will die in the street. You want that to happen?

>>135655339

Join the fucking national guard you lazy entitled fucktard

>>135660457
If i could get those degrees I would have gotten them in a HEARTBEAT. Unfortunantly you can't just get those degrees. I'm getting a law degree which i learned is totally useless in todays economy.

>>135660488
Well now your cover is blown, youre just a typical entitled 18 year old.

>>135657050
this guy knows what he's talking about
if you go to anything but a trade school literally kill yourself

>>135660501
>i hope he lines the fucking marxist niggers up to the firing squads or sells them to china as human slaves to pay off our debt
You might be onto something. Sell the commies to china. They get their communism, china gets more slaves, usa gets out of debt. Everyone wins.

>>135660633
Youre 18 youre not getting a law degree there isnt an undergrad law degree you have no idea if you will be capable of getting a law degree so say it correctly. "im on the pre-law track at my University taking Criminal Justice"

>>135660488
>when you get a degree you get respect
maybe from your commie, acid dropping, kike puppet cuck of a father.
in the real world, degree =/= respect.
you can get bitch whipped by a blonde Californian bimbo and be a beta provider though, thats kind of the opposite of respect.
Universities breed cowards, and judging by your thread, you have a head start on your peers

>>135660544
We have all this productivity yet are working harder than ever. THis is fucked up and is why im against capitalism. With automation our wages should increase not decrease since there is more wealth.

>>135660547
If i had enough money to get into the guard i would have three degrees by now.

>>135660738
Waaaaay too many spics, methheads, and 18 hour workdays. I'd like some agency on a job site.

>>135660197
Canada has a 30-50% income tax, Sweden has a 56% income tax. America, at most has 30%. That is what you pay when you want socialized healthcare and education.

>>135660921
that's because not enough white people doing the trade because they're all collegecucks getting useless degrees (if even getting a degree instead of dropping out after 5 and a half semesters) just so they can make it to starbucks barista level

>>135660488
>since when you get a degree you get respect
Hahahahahahahaha

If that's why you want to go to school for a English degree or whatever crap you're getting, "to be respected" then I can tell that you're a total beta who will never be respected by anyone.

Protip: only STEM degrees are respected. You'll end up 40k in debt and working as a starbucks barrista.

>>135660656
Entitled? I've been working 4 years for my shit

>>135660738
Sorry but not everyone wants to be a peasant who gets no respect.

>>135660783
THat's what I fucking mean bro. However it's too late to change degree paths since i took law related stuff in highschool so i can't at this point get into engineering or anything else.

>>135660805
You do get respect, my cousin has a good degree and was making conversations with all the important people at my dads party (wallstreet guys) and to me they just saw as some dumb kid.

>>135660965
Just tax the rich and lower income tax on us

>>135661104
>STEM
>Respected
My dad is friends with very very rich and powerful people. I go to parties with him to deliver food and stuff it's kind of weird but from what I overhear they only really respect guys with ivy league law degrees, or finance degrees. No one in STEM gets any respect at all, they are considered nerd losers.

>>135660028

>be me poor as fuck
>be lucky I read fucking books growing up, albeit tom Clancy so no one at school thought I was a book nerd
>go recruiting station
>they take any warm body as long as you lie about your medical history
>lienabout medical history tell them perfect health, never injured
>get 92 on asvab
>work in data analytics
>be in national guard working 35F while in college

And

>college paid for, plus $1,000 per month in living stipend. Books paid for, healthcare covered.
>having top secret security creds and "Data Analysis" on my fucking resume st the age of 20.
>have join fraternity
>become frat as fuck
>become even more Chad (thanks basic and ait for getting me cut)
>get connections in Greek life
>land an internship working a week making $17.5 at one of the top financial firms kn the nation
>graduate
>land job at said firm making 98k a year starting

Raised by a single dad (mom died) who's a plumber and having five siblings, all of which joined the military except one who died at 16 walking home from school.

Inb4 white male privilege

Fuck you vote republican

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>>135655339
Have you not figured out that the education system sucks because it is now based around marxist bullshit?You got what you wanted and yet everyone still complains about people being stupid and having to pay for their daily indoctrination camps.

>>135660896
Whos working harder than ever? Certainly not the average minimum wage worker those jobs are easy as hell.
Sounds like you had one shitty job and now you think everyone is entitled to opportunity. Youre a foolish 18 year old who has no life experience.

>>135661144
You very well could, but its ignoranted to state youre studying law, Criminal Jistice is a joke of a major, youre a "PRE-law" guy so stop confussing the two.

Once you make it into law school you can you claim you study law, but with this bitter little attitude you have i doubt youll get a passing mark on your test to get into law school.

Also working for 4 years (i doubt you started working at 14 but whatever because no places require 15 and up.) means shit i worked since I was 15 and im not complaining now, thats how society fucking works.

>>135661346
>go to recruitment
>they do examination
>sorry sir you can't join the military due to nah nah nah nah nah nah
>get rejected

>>135660028
>it costs money to join the military
Are you retarded?

>>135661323
>Wants to go to uni to get rich and be respected by the rich
>lets have the rich pay for it.

Getting your $40 000 degree in America saves you $1.1 million in taxes than getting "free" education in Sweden with a $100 000/year job.

>>135661323
>they only really respect guys with ivy league law degrees, or finance degrees. No one in STEM gets any respect at all, they are considered nerd losers
Yeah, and the rest of the world considers them parasites and overpaid do-nothings while scientists and engineers are the people who built our society from nothing.

Schools like harvard are just big jew circle-jerks btw

>>135661144
some how you interpret socializing at party is being shown respect because of a degree.
sage for your dumbass and your dumbass thread.

>>135661457
I don't care if it makes me stupid, it gives me respect

>>135661611
You have to slip the medical examiner some cash to pass you. Otherwise you'll get a "MEDICAL REJECTION" stamp

>>135661500
I was a lifeguard, i worked my ass off to save people.

>Also working for 4 years (i doubt you started working at 14 but whatever because no places require 15 and up.) means shit i worked since I was 15 and im not complaining now, thats how society fucking works.
Our parents should of gave us more stuff though.

>>135661632
If the rich have to pay for it they will be poorer and their standard of who they respect increases

>>135661710
enjoy your ban

>>135661677
>implying any of them are actually doing groundbreaking shit when really they are just working on a gov contract/upgrading current tec slightly that they couldnt give two shits about

I found the man that has never worked for a corporation before.


>>135661940
Wow. I thought maybe cashier but holy shit LIFEGUARD you sit there 90% of the time doing nothing and occasionally save the old lady that went swimming.

Fuck off you child. I bet all you did was blow your paycheck on videogames and weed.

>>135655339
Riddle me this schlomo

>public university tuition has risen faster than inflation for decades causing a "bubble"
>it is known this money is not going to professors in fact tenure track professorships are down

So why hasn't the New York Times run a breakdown of where these public university funds are going?????

>why doesn't bankruptcy include student loan debt?
>why aren't the schools on the hook for failing students?
>why isn't this a national issue plastered in every newspaper explaining the economics of the situation?

The system is designed to fail and strap you with a shit ton of debt.

Go fuck yourself you faggot. Your not being educated your being indoctrinated.

>>135661677
>Yeah, and the rest of the world considers them parasites and overpaid do-nothings while scientists and engineers are the people who built our society from nothing.
Who cares what the rest of the world thinks. The elite considering my worthy is all i want. I could give two shits what the bartender of the local pub thinks about me. In fact it makes me feel more privilege when i get hate from these people.

>>135660028
k then

>>135662299
I don't give a shit if im educated, i get more repsect with a degree. Bush got a degree, Clinton got a degree, Trump got a degree, Kushner got a degree, all the respectable people got degrees.

>>135662193
>I found the man that has never worked for a corporation before
I'm an engineer who designs medical diagnostic tools. In one month of my job I've done more for humanity than all the bankers and lawyers combined have ever done.

>>135660028
You are such a entitled little spoiled brat.

>>135662432
k bruh

>>135662628
Pretty much everyone in my family is in law or finance or accounting and we are what runs the economy to allow you to have your job, show some more respect.

>>135662668
You are an entitled spoiled brat

>>135662522
>Bush, Clinton, Trump, Kushner
>"Respectable"
kys bootlicker

it's the current year, universities are an inefficient and obsolete way to learn. they're a dead meme from before the internet existed. any skill or knowledge you hope to obtain can be learned online now, at your own pace. all you need is the discipline and patience to study the subject yourself. there are only a few exceptions like if you want to become a surgeon

>>135662628
>doesnt think one of those bankers could have made the investment for your pay so that you can make those medical diagnositc tools.

woooow do you think the world revolves around you as well?

>>135655339

Ask not what you're country can...

You finish it up there cuck.

Education cannot be a "right" because it requires a commodity to satisfy the provision of it. So it's gay.

>>135655810
>reinstate slavery and force lecturers to teach for zero pay
Sounds like a plan to me.

>>135655339

We need more scouts in local Highschools. That always helps.

>>135656374

That's bullshit. Learn a trade. This absurd belief that you must have a degree to survive is childish.

>>135660896
You dont spend money to get into the services.

>>135656374
You'll be unemployed with a degree too retard. Get into a trade, I am fucking warning you.

>>135662751
>Pretty much everyone in my family is in law or finance or accounting and we are what runs the economy to allow you to have your job, show some more respect.
Hahaha, my department is funded by government grants and universities. We have nothing to do with parasites like your family.

Tell me, how do you justify it to yourselves? Generations of useless people with no skills who do nothing but skim money off the backs of others.

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>>135661940
>I don't care if it makes me stupid, it gives me respect
No wonder america is failing.To think that liberals call people stupid trailer trash when they are the equivalent of them.

>>135655772
Being unemployed with a huge amount of unsecured debt... or learning a trade over 4 years and have no debt and making plenty of money.

Sure, you obviously went to college.

>>135662877
money isn't what you think it is

>>135662840
I don't like their policies either but they are the elite regardless and their opinion of me matters most. For example when my Dad worked for Goldman Sachs he didn't agree with everything they did but he still wanted the respect of them that is pretty much what determines your value in society

>>135661144
With the bullshit you talk about I wouldnt give you respect.

>>135655339
If you can't pay for it yourself then you fucked up and chose the wrong field of study you stupid drain on society.
Why don't you have a job that pays for the education you had to go through to get it?

>>135663109
I don't want to survive i want to thrive

>>135662999
I don't care about the country really

>>135662855
I don't want to learn. I want to go make some rich friends and then leave with a degree so when i go to my dads office everyone will be like "good job son you one of us now". I was also going to meet Lloyd Blankfein but i was too scared to approach him because at the time i was just a dumbass highschool student but with a degree i can be like "hey im one of you now". It's a weird feeling but it feels good to be liked by these guys.

>>135661099
It's too bad I wasn't a bit younger to hold out and wait for the whites to show up. Who knows? Ill probably make the same amount I do now at $15/hr while working for some plumbing company whIle being $20k in the hole. No thanks.

>>135655772
Then there's no reason to go in the first place.
Seems like these colleges are just trying to push natives aside so that foreigners can be brought in and made into a higher "caste" than the rest of us.

>>135661940
That is a bold faced lie you fucking idiot

You most likely told the doctor wild stories or you indeed are a crippled fuck

>>135663527
>I don't care about the country really
And because there are so many at the top that think just like you, you are fucked.
Because you're such a fucking retarded rootless jackass I hope you die in debt.

>>135655772
>No worthwhile degrees right now
What kind of hard drugs are you smoking leftist?

>>135663137
You have to pay the medical examiner to pass you. Einstien couldn't get in since he didn't want to bribe the doctor to let him into the army

>>135663144
But then i won't get any respect

>>135663149
>GOVERNEMENT
Parasite at highest level, you take money from everyone else. You can't get money in a market economy so you need the gov to steal money and give it to you. You have no fucking skills or anything, you just no some basic math. Finance and law requires a deep knowledge about society and how to manage it.

>>135662048
You have such a fantasy of life you are going "enjoy your ban" to people who call you out faggot.

>>135656968
If college ever became free I would never even consider going to college after high school unless its some kind of private school.

Public colleges would be literal warzones for the most part.

>>135660488
Jesus. I remember THAT phase. Life is hard work. Its not about how ypu feel or wgat you think. Kill this fantasy that the nice people in black turtlenecks at apple are going to make it so you dont have to ever feel uncomfortable or work hard ever again.

The bible says "He who does not work does not eat." I dont care yer opinion on god or religion, but thats a pretty good fuckin rule to live by. People who work hard have more. People who dont sit around complaining how "lucky" everyone else who is busting thier ass are.

Quit being a whiny little bitch, cowboy up, and start working or get out of the way, go on welfare, and live a grey boring life filled with whining and mediocrity. Your choice.

Quite frankly the fact that you are 18 and have no fuckin plan or clue tells me you are a typical hind-tit millinial who spent his last 4 years smoking weed and playing xbox. You are SUPPOSED to use highschool to get ready for the world. The fact you havent tells me you will probably choose mediocrity and spend the next 30 years before you shoot yourself bitching at us to pay for it all.

>>135663201
Yeah sure there's totally debt when my parents are multimillionaires sure

>>135663163
Why would i care about my education when i have a degree?

>>135663297
But i can get respect at wallstreet and that's really the only opinion that matters now

>>135663461
Because i can't get a job until i get the education

>>135663715
Actually that's not the case. One of the reasons my family got to be the way we are is my grandpa and his dad had flatfeet so they didn't have to serve in the war. (it's grounds for disqualifcation) so they decided to make money investing in military equipment instead for both wars. I have the same condition as them so i know i'd be rejected.

>>135657745>>135656723

Yes he's trolling because he just fucking debunked everything you have to offer.

>>135662799
You are still a entitled spoiled brat

>>135663812
>But then i won't get any respect
You weren't going to get it anyway. You're a retarded whiny bitch.

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>>135663527
>he thinks the turbojew Lloyd Blankfein will think a goy is just like him because it's wearing a suit and tie

Wheres my (You)? I'm waiting

>>135663237
Your value in society is determined by what you give to society, that is how worth is measured. They are elite because they create things and have worked to their positions, they didn't just graduate college and all of a sudden became what they are
You can look as flashy as you want but if you have no substance and can't produce anything for those elitists then they will just think of you as a bootlicker and a waste of time
Your Dad was successful because he worked and provided value to Goldman Sachs not just by kissing ass

>>135663812
I've passed the test twice giving no money you fucking retard you are such a bad liar.

>>135663626
THat's bullshit

>>135663772
My family actually has very strong roots.

>>135663794
Tell me what degrees are worthy.

>>135664233
Stop being a whiny bitch. I don't need to go on welfare my dad is going to try to get me a job where he used to work but he won't fuckign pay for my god dam schooling which is stupid because they won't take me

>>135664264
You're a bad troll

>>135664281
you're a brat

>>135664305
I'm not a goy though

>>135664295
You're a whiny bitch. I got respect when i met some top Lyloid Blankfein advisers.

>>135664485
>Tell me what degrees are worthy
Do I really have to even answer this?

How about start with something that isn't useless first of all.

Secondly use your common sense! Use your brain and figure out what degree would help you get the best paying job that you would enjoy!

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>>135655339

>>135655339
You're not even American you larping faggot. Kys fag flag.

>>135655339
The reason why our colleges and the UKs colleges are the most prestigious in the world is because they're competitive and are not socialized. They are ran by deans and scholars rather than a politicians and bureaucrats in your local capital.

Also Government issued School loans is what artificially creates a high tuition for colleges, they pay more than what is necessary so colleges can build more recreational stuff so you can pay more to the college. I am not that eloquent with words but I hope you get where I'm trying to make my point across.

>>135664631
>Bad troll
>Has the democrat donkey as picture
...

>>135664449
Except goldman Sachs doesn't provide anything they just suck interest out of the economy.

>>135664459
You're a bad liar. My doctor told me "do you ever plan to join the military". I said "no" she said "good because with these feet you would not be accepted".

>>135664717
No that isn't true fugg statistics and factual evidence because its wrong to make degenerates who don't even deserve their parents money for a car much less college actually pay for college!

>>135664675
I would assume a Harvard law degree which is what im getting but i learned that is useless now

>>135664739
>has larping christian flag as his picture, CRINGE

>>135664245
>Because i can't get a job until i get the education
So you're not good enough for any grants?
Then fuck off faggot, you're too stupid.
Besides, leftist academia doesn't want you, an American, to be more successful than the foreigners they are bringing in. They need it to look like there are too few people here who are capable of getting through college.
These pro-immigration faggots are trying to replace the US population. That means both of us are in the way regardless of who we support.
>>135664485
>My family actually has very strong roots.
Yeah, but YOU cut yours off by not giving a fuck about your fellow Americans.
>>135664631
>I got respect when i met some top Lyloid Blankfein advisers.
Then wtf do you have to worry about? If these faggots are showing you respect then you should be capable of raising the damn money on your own. You're either lying or they were just playing nice.

>>135664996
>i learned that is useless now
Of course. It;s easier to hire H1Bs.

>>135655339
Stop expecting the government to take of you faggot. You're responsible for yourself and I'm not subsidizing your education.

>>135655339
Time to get a job fag.

>>135655339
>free
Congrats on being a retard, don't worry too much about college you're most likely going to fail or get a useless gender studies degree anyhow.

>>135655339
Get a job u lazy commie fag

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>>135664996
>Trying to get a harvard law degree
>Expects and wants it to be free
You're a shill. Nothing more.
>Larping christian flag
Its done more for the world than yours has.

>>135664485
You had 4 years to apply for scholarships and grants, to study and explore and find out what you were good at and want to do.

How many hundreds or thousands of hours were spent in front of a screen gaining absolutley nothing? Would probably like that time back huh?

Feel that. Its regret and wasted potential. Its your hopes and dreams fading as your laziness incinerates your time with unproductive navel gazing. Its your ego stammering to invent excuses as to why its not your fault and that somebody else should fix it.

Too late bruh, your an adult now. Your decisions now have a direct impact on your life now, and nobody will come to save you. Winners channel this stress into motivation. Losers invent panty-waist excuses and justifications.

Are you going to be a winner or a loser? Are you going to manufacture blame and collect excuses or are you going to get the fuck up like a man and make shit happen out of pure spite and defiance for the world?

>>135663812
>>GOVERNEMENT
>Parasite at highest level, you take money from everyone else. You can't get money in a market economy so you need the gov to steal money and give it to you. You have no fucking skills or anything, you just no some basic math. Finance and law requires a deep knowledge about society and how to manage it.
Hahahahaha, wait, so you're railing against big "Governement" providing medical procedures to save lives... but adamantly for this same entity providing free college? Just so you can parade around with your dad's jews friends and pretend that someone respects you?

HAHAHAHAHAHA. I think I've figured out your reasoning: "If I want it, it should be free, but if I don't want it right now, it shouldn't.

You need to be at least 18 to post here kid.

>>135665002
I'm stupid? Both my parents are freaking Harvard graduates, regardless of which genetic theory of intelligence you follow I still have a high-IQ. My dad was MENSA and my mom was a lawyer for J.P Morgan Chase. So I'm genetically smart no matter what. Also I'm going to Harvard so you know no matter what I'm intelligent. And i never cut off my roots, my family never cared about America or anything in fact after the war my family almost moved

>Then wtf do you have to worry about? If these faggots are showing you respect then you should be capable of raising the damn money on your own. You're either lying or they were just playing nice.
My dad works for them so they were nice and respected me, but I still need this FUCKING DEGREE for them to employ me. That's the whole issue I have everything the respect and the connections but unless i get this god dam degree they won't employ me.

>>135656076
Let's do some math here. Average in state tuition in 2016 was $9,650. Out of state was $23,800. Out of state tuition subsidies in state tuition. If you average them out it comes to $16,725. For profit schools average $16,000. I think $16,000/student is a good enough rounding number. In fall of 2016, there were 20.5 million students enrolled in US colleges. 20.5 million multiplied by $16,000 is $328 billion a year. College isn't free because nothing is free. College is an investment. You pay for college, you do the work, you get the degree, you reap the benefits of having a degree.

https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372

https://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/average-published-undergraduate-charges-sector-2016-17

>>135665697
Fuck he probably is 18. Age doesn't equal a better functioning brain when it comes to people like this.

>>135664855
Goldman Sachs is an investment banker and investment management company. They benefit directly from economic interest because they are directly involved in trading by providing a service to investors.
Do your research

>>135665497
It was already predetermined from my birth that i was going to work for wallstreet since that's what my family has been doing for three generations. You just said that i wasted time in front of a screen instead of doing shit so according to you it's too late. You paty waste loser

>>135665751
Then your family should help you out.
Quit leeching money from tax payers. Your family is well off you fucking faggot. I have no respect for richfags who beg for handouts.

>>135665697
I am 18 years old actually, and I want this to be free since my dad and his friends FUND the economy, so if we literally give BILLIONS to the government maybe we should get some back. Besides i will make more money afterwards.

And don't pretend what you are doing is for saving lives, i can guarentee you don't give a flying FUCK about lives you just want the money you are getting from your job and the respect. My family doesn't care at all about the economy despite working in finance so i assume it's the same in the medical field.

>>135665697
>You have no fucking skills or anything, you just no some basic math. Finance and law requires a deep knowledge about society and how to manage it.
Also, I want to point out my tremendous amusement at being told this by someone who can't even spell the word "know" correctly.

BTW: finance is nothing but basic math. Given a few years, I could design an expert system that would make all bankers obsolete forever. We already see AI traders on the stock market.

>>135666017
Time will prey on you.

>>135666185
>>135665697
>>135665916
Told you lmao

>>135655339
>United States
>Funds Education
Well there's your first problem. The government funding anything is liable to create more problems then it solves. See article for why our government is inept thanks to politicians selling influence to big money and the monstrous bureaucracy that politicians create to make themselves feel important.
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/offwhitepapers/2015/08/24/donald-trump-and-the-wollman-rinking-of-american-politics/#d7354a22fc81

>>135655772
Always a democrat meme flag

I just got a law degree and I am fully employed with an excellent job. Libshits would have you believe I'm an exception to the rule. Fuck you, millennials really are just lazy fucks,

>>135666320

https://archive.is/r3Kec

>>135665804
That's why you lower tuition to 0 with Federal regulations

>>135665985
Now i feel less special

>>135666079
But the FIRST post i made i explained this, my mom and dad might cut me off because of fights we got into.

>>135666185
>I am 18 years old actually, and I want this to be free since my dad and his friends FUND the economy,
Your dad and his jew buttbuddies don't create anything. They're just overpaid middlemen who don't have any future as their jobs will be automated by engineers like me.

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>It's my RIGHT to have other people pay for my shit!!!!

Kys

Also bait

>>135666185
>Since we give billions too the government maybe we should get some back

Okay well that's called taxation and the money the government takes from people is usually put to either the military or public functions.

If you want the money back a correct term for that would be "lowering taxes"
something your beloved Bernie Sanders wanted to raise by like 99%.

>>135666423
That's fine. You can now live among the normal working class people of the USA now.
Maybe you'll have to learn what it's like to be us.

>>135666213
Engineering and medicine is basic knowledge. With a couple phone calls wallstreet could end funding to your industry. Also AI traders are directly owned by goldman Sachs

>>135666356
Wait really? I thought law industry is over saturated?

>>135665804
>tfw community college is $10k a year in my state.

Gotta love the lack of public support.

>>135666451
Because of men like my dad you have to pay large income tax and your wage will only decline as government borrowed interest increases. Also prices will rise making it harder for you to buy things. AI software only increases the profits of Goldman Sachs, enginners have no future besides being the working classes they are.

>>135666482
enjoy ban for trolling

>>135666500
Your beloved Hitler raised marginal income tax too.

Why are people still responding to this obvipus bait?

>>135666623
It's not the life itself I don't like. It's the lack of respect. I got bullied in high-school and never really had friends and still never had a girlfriend or anything. The only thing that gets people to like me is when i tell them my dads position and when i drive expensive cars. Without that i'd be a loser

>>135666976
Why have the mods not banned your obvious trolling yet?

>>135666929
Why do you keep making this thread? You won't find the answers you seek on a taiwanese origami forum.

>>135666423
I don't understand why, but okay.
Learn to how to contribute value as well as kiss ass and you'll be fine no matter what you do
I believe in you

>>135666356
When I was 18 I was in sangin trying not to get violently disarticulated by death cultists wearing sucide vests. Im 25 now, happily married, college loan free and about to finish buying a 5 acre plot of land in Montana. Im a self employed carpenter while I go to college and I think I will have enough money left over from buying my house and land to start a buisiness. Im thinking mobile catering to big events. Those food trucks that sell soda beer and hotdogs outside of ballgames and concerts make fuckin BANK.

Im working 80 hour weeks and the fuckin kicker is that compared to how utterly pants shittingly horrible the Marine Corps was Its not even that bad.

Im suceeding as well. Never be a millionaire, not by a long shot, but Im buying my own house whilst being self employed, I just laugh as all the people in my life tell me I cant do something then make them all eat crow by getting it done.

>>135667270
sure buddy

>>135667262
He makes the thread because he's baiting, if you retards stopped respondong he'd stop posting.

>>135655339
>threatening to not pay for higher education
What kind of podunk niggers you got in your family? Ones that sabotage your future just because they're angry at you? Fuck that.

>>135667220
You're a loser because you're a bitch.
You probably only ever had pussies for male role models and you don't know how to be a man.
You need a culture change. No one respects a man that acts like a woman. Quit being a faggot.

How about you get a job you useless twat

>>135667459
you're a really really bad troll

>>135667531
My dad is a douchebag I know. I can't do anything about it though

>>135667612
My dad is the most manly person ever. Lacks empathy and is not afraid to betray people in business. You're a women and had pussies for role models.

>>135667652
Because i don't have a degree twat

>>135668039
Carpentry pay $25 to $35 an hour. Degrees are not a print your own money machine.

>>135668039
>Lacks empathy and is not afraid to betray people in business
So he's a nigger then?
Men have honor. You're not just a pussy, you're human garbage and so is your father.
>You're a women and had pussies for role models.
Are you parroting me now? You're not good enough for Harvard.

>>135655339
>my parents are threatening not to pay for my university
Based parents

>>135668392
I don't care about money. It's respect i want to party with advisors to Lyloid Blankfield. I was bullied at highschool this is my only chance to be with the important people. And i know it sounds pathetic

>>135668521
You're a fuking pussy. You don't need to be good for Harvard you need a good family name with respect.

>>135668973
>you need a good family name with respect.
Looks like you don't have that.
>You're a fuking pussy.
Coming from an effeminate faggot who can't make his own path in life I'm not too terribly offended.
I've got mine, bitch. You're the one crying about your failure of a life.

>>135669151
Bernie Sanders is working class. His net worth is about 404K

>>135669231
>you don't have that
I do, my dad has a good reputation in wallstreet. He's a boardroom executive for Goldman Sachs and has done jobs for other big banks.

>Coming from an effeminate faggot who can't make his own path in life I'm not too terribly offended.
I've got mine, bitch. You're the one crying about your failure of a life.
You are effimininte. If you aren't from wallstreet your a crybaby failure.

>>135658182
And I want a new holocaust. We don't always get what we want, now do we?

>>135655339
Go to a country that doesn't reserve education for the rich or asks people to bankrupt themselves

>>135669891
Except the thing is Germany and Sweden both require very high standards to get in. And the United States doesn't reserve education for the rich since im not rich and can get in.

>>135655339
This is why we have libraries.

>>135669447
>If you aren't from wallstreet your a crybaby failure.
Like you? If daddy isn't helping you you're not getting in.

>>135666825
>Because of men like my dad you have to pay large income tax and your wage will only decline as government borrowed interest increases. Also prices will rise making it harder for you to buy things.
So what do jews like your dad do again? I mean besides make things worse for the average citizen.

But btw dumbass, engineers need to know: algebra, calculus, physics, chemistry, computer science, etc. I have friends who have taken business, finance, accounting, etc. It's the most basic shit on the planet. "Hurr durrr... if something costs more than it returns then it's a bad investment."

>>135669447
BTW, being a yuppie means you're a girly faggot.

>>135670223
Reading is boring, i actually fucking hate reading. Don't even compare that to university.

>>135670318
I will make peace with my dad just to spite this thread.

>>135670543
>I will make peace with my dad just to spite this thread
Good.

>>135670446
So what if we make things worse for the average citizen at least we aren't trying to destroy peoples jobs like you

>But btw dumbass, engineers need to know: algebra, calculus, physics, chemistry, computer science, etc. I have friends who have taken business, finance, accounting, etc. It's the most basic shit on the planet. "Hurr durrr... if something costs more than it returns then it's a bad investment."
Science is literally the easiest fucking thing on the planet. If finance was really easy then why do people in the finance industry make wayyyy more money than engineers? Engineers aren't smart at all, they have autism and that's about it. In fact Germany divided their schools into three separate ones, engineers were in the middle while finance was the top level school only for the elites. It was like that during the Weimar Republic as well.

>>135670464
If you aren't a yuppy not only are you girly but you are an unimportant hick

>>135670944
>can't survive without money
>calls others girly
Just admit that you're not a man.

>>135671249
Why? What do you do? Survive in the middle of the woods like Rambo? LOL

>>135670837
>why do people in the finance industry make way more money than engineers?
Because working with money makes more money.
It's not difficult, just immoral. You're incapable of actual work and the fact that you're here whining proves it.

>>135671419
You're whining, trades are for people too stupid to get into finance.

>>135671415
I fix cars for a living. My skills are useful without money. I'm capable of making what I need if it's too expensive and in the event of a societal collapse I still have value.
Being an expert in finance makes you useless without your money. Also real work gives you muscles. I'm stronger than you. You have the body of a woman.

>>135670837
Yet if you were such a genius for wanting to go into finance, then you would have a scholarship and savings like I did.

And your daddy seems to have the same attitude regarding other people as you do: "fuck everyone who isn't me" and is willing to jew his own son. You expected an easy ride and got cut off. Tough luck! It seems like your chickens came home to roost.

>>135671949
Lol uneducated barbaric trailer park hick hahahahhahahahahbahbaha. Also who cares if I need money there will always be money. Your job requires cars you women.

>>135672306
It's you whos attitude is fuck other people. You want to destroy all jobs in the finance industry

>>135672404
>Also who cares if I need money there will always be money
Yup, he's a Bernout for sure.

>>135672594
I just get economics

>>135672537
>It's you whos attitude is fuck other people. You want to destroy all jobs in the finance industry
I'm making medical equipment. Even the best medical systems require professional supervision for reasons of liability. Nobody is being driven out of a job by me, I am helping people to get more accurate and timely diagnoses.

Though any system that "destroys jobs" just allows a shift into other industries. Automation will take over all service sector jobs and people will need to work in the industrial sector. Before you grab your wooden shoes and start throwing them into the machine cogs, note that this will mean cheaper services and ultimately cheaper industrial goods. Everyone benefits from this. Just like the industrial revolution increased the prosperity of society as a while, the AI revolution will increase everyone's prosperity. Also, we'll need less immigrants, so we are saving the white race.

>>135655339
"free" education is a fucking meme

It isn't the government's job to pay for your education, OP

Obvious shill thread, fucking sage

>>135673465
You are destroying jobs like mine. And how will this benefit me? I will lose respect in society since I will no longer be at the top of the social chain

>>135655772
>No worthwile degrees
Try mechanical engineering with an emphasis in dynamic systems and control instead of gender studies with an emphasis is faggotry.

4chan should only be 21+
fuck (((18 year old))) newfags

>>135655339
Liberals are just pissed some people don't want or can't afford their retraining and reeducation propoganda centers

>>135673989
I would take it if I could

Bait thread.

>>135672859
You very obviously dont. The only way I can understand your abysmal grasp of budgeting economics and finance is to assume you are one of those special cases of idiots who are so pathetically ignorant they earnestly believe they are intelligent.

You cant even figure out why college costs money aside from childish notion that its "mean" and you want to work wallstreet? Jesus christ I wish theyd put up a 24/7 video feed of your life so I can watch you slowly descend into self pitying failure.

Youre like a wounded livestock animal just bright enough to expirience suffering. Moaning bellowing and shrieking in confusion and panic because you arent quite smart enough to understand why its happening to you.

>>135655339
>free education
There are maybe a dozen million university students. They pay around 10k$ a year on average.
12*10^6*10^4=12*10^10$
So the US would have to pay 120 billion dollars a year for education. Kinda expensive, isn't it?

>>135675404
> propoganda

looks like you could use some extra schooling yourself there bud

>>135680568
Especially considering the fsct that only about 15% of them ever even graduate.

>>135680157
>cries about shit being "mean"
>wants to go into the fiscal kike
kek, this kid really does have no fucking idea
i'm laying 10 to 1 odds on this stupid gullible fucking goy getting his blood dranken and his flesh cooked and eaten by jew york kikes on the next purim
sadly, good little goys who are stupid enough to believe the same shit OP does 100% deserve it
fucking retard

>>135680568
More considering all the people who would jump into university at the drop of a hat if it was free.

I've been taking free community college classes for about 6 years now getting certified in several fields. It's actually pretty enriching and there's no control stopping me from getting a new $4000 grant every year (I think the limit is 6 years).

>>135681028
Hes gonna get eaten alive by life. And hes gonna find a way to blame it all on somebody else the whole way. I dont even gotta be psychic to predict his future, cuz ive seen it about 10,000 times before.
>wasted highschool jerking off and playing vidya
>suddenly 18, parents cut off the free rent and food.
>since he wasted the 4 years he was given to figure shit out, choose a career, earn scholarships, and set goals fucking around hes now utterly unprepared for life
>has no fuckin clue what he even wants aside from a vague notion of posessing lots of money and people worshiping him for being the specialest snowflake
>parents, jaded by his years of lazy siftless lack of motivation or initiative know full well any money spent attempting to educate him will be disrespected and wasted, so they do the smart thing and refuse to dump any more money on his ungrateful ass
>so he goes off into the world thinking hes owed respect and wealth, blaming his parents for not just handing it over to him
>basically just drifts from one shitty handout to another until his parents die
>inherits something. Blows it all on stupid shit in under a year
>goes back to drifting from handout to handout convincing himself its just what he's owed cuz everyone is just too mean to just give him everything on a silver platter
>spends the rest of his days declining into deeper levels of failure and self pity badmouthing better men who worked harder thab him

Parents should beat thier kids more.

>>135655339
>help
nobody's paying off your student loans for your black studies major you retard