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Why is everybody south of Croatia such brainlets? ITT thread

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Why is everybody south of Croatia such brainlets? ITT thread we discuss posible reasons for such low IQ compared to the rest of Europe.Also it should be noted that IQ of Bosnia and Albania should be taken with doubt because they didn't have enough data for them.
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And Montenegro also.
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Here is another map
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Estonia partially overtook us already because they have less immigrants.
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>>135653482
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>>135653560
They have a shitton of Russians though, and Russians are highly functioning retards.
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>>135653663
Friuli-Venezia Giulia has highest average IQ in Italy it would be interested to see regional divide for other European countries.
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Croats have nigger culture and nigger genetics all croatian women have huge asses just like niggers

Croats are just chimpanzees in general
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>>135654248
Weak bait,leave the thread or try not to say something retarded.
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>>135653243
You seriously have to ask?
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>>135654248
Had a chuckle
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>>135655994
IQ is largely genetic, i don't think being occupied by Ottoman empire can cause such lower IQ.It may cause cultural differences.I think those differences exist because of mixing with native populations when south Slavs came to this areas.
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>>135656642
What happens to the natives under an occupying force? It's not rocket science.
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>>135656805
I know there's a rapebaby meme,but it's
exagerated.
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>>135653560
>they have less immigrants.
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>>135653243
What a surprise - regions that spent longest being raped by Arab/Turkish/Berber Mudslimes have retarded IQs.

On other hand fucking Ireland and Lithuania have no excuse.
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>>135653243
>82
>lower than literal Niggers
Albanians are the niggers of Europe and deserve to be shot on sight.
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>>135657020
Ireland has such IQ because of immigration and famine, i don't know about Lithuania
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>>135656805
The ''rapebaby'' -theory is just fucking dumb. Just being within the same country doesn't guarantee genetic mixing. People didn't use to move a lot in the old days and especially not mix.
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Mostly due to inbreeding
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>>135657394
balkanic peoples who interbred with turks ended up becoming turkified and islamified. they were sent packing to turkey during population exchanges and fled as refugees in the early 20th century
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>>135657794
This is bullshit map Croatia is somehow more inbred than Bulgaria for example but has higher IQ.
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>>135657794
>whitest countries are inbred

Wtf I love immigrants now. pls come fuck my wife
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>>135657394
I'm sorry, but the spatial correlation is just too good. Ottomans spread their inferior genetics in their occupied lands.

On phone so can't overlay the maps
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Holy shit, balkanshits are dumb as fuck
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>>135656805

The thing is when the occupying force is basically converted natives tho
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>>135653243
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those tests are fake

btw, croatians are absolute shit-tier subhuman
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>>135653243
Gypsy/albanian minority.
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>>135653243
Bulgaria,Montenegro, Macedonia and Romania are Norht africa tier
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>>135658060
It is plausible theory but you can also sugest then correlation between christian orhodoxy and IQ as a theory.
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>>135653243
Are Finns the master race?
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>>135658201
Kek, Serbs are the nigger epicenter of Europe
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>>135657394
Its 400 years not 30 years occupation. Anyways people In thsoe Areas really look like Turks. Yes it doesnt have to chancge genetics but it can certainly after 400 years. I get what you are saying North afirca was part of Vandal kingdom for 100 and they don't look like Germans but this case is defferent
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>>135658456
>Anyways people In thsoe Areas really look like Turks
Please visit. Anyway all your pseudo-science is already debunked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Bulgarians
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>>135653482
That map's off, Google the study and check the appendix. Pic related, the average IQ for adults in Croatia for example is 104. Unless anyone else can explain to me what is meant by 'median IQ', because when you look at these maps no one's thinking of the children's IQ but of the working age people.

> inb4 'adjusted' for PISA
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>>135657984
Quoting from a blog here:
>i did a little googling on that and found what i think will probably prove to be a general pattern for balkan populations: a ban on marrying in the patriline, but marrying on the mother’s side is ok and even preferred.

Lol those rednecks from Albania are fucking their own cousin.
It is also hard to get any hard data from the Balkan region
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>>135653243
That's where the Muslims are
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>>135653243

Countries with high emigration tend to have lower IQs as a result. Hence the phrase "brain drain" as more intelligent and qualified people leave the country in search of better prospects elsewhere. Probably happened in Croatia after the fall of communism,
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>>135658749
Where's this pic from?
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>>135658749
>1981
The reason behind it was that Yugoslavia wasn't behind the Iron Curtain and with a bit less oppressive regime. Also Serbs seem to be less intelligent because of the Serbian migrations during the Ottoman conquests, looks like the best of the Serbian people refused to live under the T*rkish heel.

>>135658928
It most certainly did. The average Croatian is by no means stupid, but does lack the will and ambition to rise above his momentary state. Our politicians must be morons though, with the only things keeping their reins stable being unchecked nepotism and corruption (backed by Bruxelles due to the mutual interest).
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>>135658456
They did replace/assimilate the people in some areas, and there were large turkish populations especially in the larger administrative cities. There were not enough to breed the rural population though, and most of them were driven out during the balkan wars.
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>>135659105
Google 'Lynn Vanhanen 2012', should be the first PDF. It's the source of the map you posted. Scroll down to National IQs. Either I'm a fucking idiot or /pol/ is getting duped hard falling for fucking 11 year olds IQ KEK

>>135659317
>1981
Yes I know but it's the only source of this study on national IQs

Portugal, 101
Germany, 101-107?
Italy, 102
Netherlands, 107

Check it for yourself
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>>135653560
Some proof about this in pic.
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>>135657794
I like it too when the source is my ass.
>Iceland is less inbred.
Quality source.
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>>135653482
> Belarus
> An estimate based on demographics
> Implying that you can determine the IQ of a nation based on its racial makeup

Really makes you think
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>>135660015
Exactly how do balto-finnics DOMINATE these charts? We can assume the eternal rice niggers are cheating like always. Why would they make exceptions for PISA for their habit.

Are we even human?
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>>135659671
Someone tell me I'm wrong, because as far as I'm concerned at the moment every national IQ map I've seen so far is an ass pull.

I'm actually thinking of making a Europe (ADULT) IQ map along with the date of the study. Most of these are from 1981.

Spain, 94?-98
Sweden, 104
Switzerland, 101
United Kingdom, 100
Russia, 96?
Poland, 106
Norway, 100
Ireland, 95?-97
Hungary, 98
Greece, 95
France, 94-101?
Finland, 96
Denmark, 99
Czech Republic, 98
Bulgaria, 94
Belgium, 99
Austria, 101
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>>135653243
>mfw we're 99.1, despite having millions and millions of shitskins dragging down our average
If were 100% white like one of those Eastern European shitholes, we'd probably be the highest in Europe. Anglos truly are the master race.
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>>135661721
Finns are there along with rest of the asians
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>>135661721
>Are we even human?
We are, everyone else are apes.
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>>135662157
>behind germany and uk
why are poles such brainlets?
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нaй-yмнитe cмe ниe, бoклyци.
тaкивa cмe бългapитe caмo нaпpeд и нaгope
кyp зa вac
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>>135662847
Sorry. I can't read Turkish.
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>>135663102
aбe мъpшo, eлa дo пepник и шe тe cмaчкaм пaкиcтaнeц гpoзeн
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>>135653243
it is because smart people from poor countries tend to get the fuck out of there.
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>>135661860
>Sweden, 104
>Finland, 96
Lynn & Vanhanen at least took IQ from PISA tests.

Really makes you wonder why no-one has funded real study.

>>135662157
Not white, not asian. Something better.

>>135662281
I knew it all along desu.
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Бyгapcки гeн (Cpби, Шиптapи, Bлacи)
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>>135662088
No actually it has a lot to do with the tests being focused on native population. Mass amounts of black people in france did not put france much under germany, yet germany had noticably less blacks(not anymore heh). It is decent in that sense that you can still see the average of the native people. But since 2012 a lot of things changed and i dont know if we are ever getting another true update the way it should be.

Bonus: Portubro mentioned reading up on the actual source which i did and some countries even got higher than others but ended up having smaller average due to other factors which are not iq tests. Overall its quite similar in europe and not something to get to obsessed or concerned about.
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>>135653243
How come all these other IQ rankings show different results ? what gives ?
https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country
http://list25.com/25-countries-with-the-highest-average-iq/
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>>135653243
>Tatu Vanhanen (17 April 1929 – 22 August 2015) was a professor of political science at the University of Tampere in Tampere, Finland.

>Finland has the highest average IQ

Really activates my almonds
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>>135662847
>>135663174
t. typical Bulgar
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>>135663788
It literally says on the pic you linked, the pictures OP posted are 2012 update, yours is 2002-2006.
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>>135663339
>Really makes you wonder why no-one has funded real study.
Sepaking of which
https://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lepoint.fr%2Fscience%2Fl-inversion-de-la-courbe-du-q-i-23-06-2016-2049092_25.php&edit-text=&act=url
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>>135664012
Oh shit , you're right.
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>>135661860

Our average might very well be correct/similar to OP's. Our interior regions are filled with illiterate old people and stuck in the middle ages.
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>>135664389
Oy vey SHUT. IT. DOWN.
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>>135654248
That's not true though. Croatian women are usually extremely hot, and Croatian culture is very Catholic. (The only bad thing about the Croatians is their Catholicism really. They need more Reformation.)
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>>135664569

>compliments of a "based" far right dictatorship btw
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>>135664569
>Regional Differences in Intelligence and per capita Incomes in Portugal
>Lynn, Almeida, Lemos - December 2011
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>>135653243
t. butthurt serblet
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>>135664737
>They need more Reformation.
Fuck off cunt and fuck off the Holy See. What this nation needs is a national militant church.
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>>135653482
>Jakub Marian

Seems legit
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>>135665406
>t. albonigger
it literally says its from Lynn Vanhanen 2012 you blind turk
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>>135653243
Why are england, germany france italy belgium sweden norway all so fucking stupid? How can a European nation have an average iq that's under 100?
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>>135664737
>reformation
>good
kys beta cuck
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>>135653243
>tfw edge of masterrace territory
>tfw have to defend europe from subhumans

Westerners should pay us for this
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>>135665616
because their education is shitty compared to yours
my mate lived in the netherlands, he told me that education there is 10x better in every single way possible
he even told me you didn't have to carry books to school
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>>135653243
They're muslims in these 2 fucking countries. They have liquid shit for brains
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>>135665781
Nikola Zrinski
>Nikola Jurišić
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>>135666131
>Nikola Zrinski*
>Nikola Jurišić
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>>135665529
>Lynn Vanhanen
>judging all europe

He must be a big guy.
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>>135662482
>why are poles such brainlets?
brain drain and extermination of our elites during ww2 by both invading sides..
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>>135666131
whats your point balkannigger?
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>>135666503
Those are last names of two people,stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>135666503
you are fucking retarded, holy shit...
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Well we definitely used to have 100 as an average but that doesn't surprise me with the amount of shitskins we have let in.

I was thinking about the televised IQ test that used to be on when I was a kid, you'd all take part at home and then they'd give you the answers and you could work out a rough estimate of your IQ.

I wondered why they don't do it anymore but obviously there would be a clear disparity and shouts of racism sexism all round.
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>>135661860
Portugal is African Spain is white.
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>>135666732
>>135666739
>two guys who never left their shitty helsinki judging all europe withot a clear method
>totally legit

croat IQ everybody
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>>135653243
because whoever took the test didn't like those people
The "studies" usually work like this:
government give million of $ to Jews
Jews fabricate lies that confirms government needs... and the cycle continues
Never trust a poll or a "study" ever again!
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>>135667443
>t. sub 90 iq albo
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>>135653243
> Ireland
They have a lower IQ than Russia, which has a giant brain vacuum in the south (Chechnya, Dagestan, etc.) . What the fuck?
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>>135667508
I don't know how to brake it to you but we are both dinaric
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>>135668005
Sorry but dinaric's aren't shorter than 180 cm, and half of your genes are fucking african
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>>135667702
The intelligent Irish left for America after the potato famine. They would be on-par with the rest of Europe. This meme really needs to end. Iceland is comprised of 40% Irish DNA

This is all sourceable
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>>135666864
I wouldn't worry much about average of a country, sure it would be cool if it was as intelligent as it can be but as long as you yourself are fairly intelligent that should be enough.
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Lynns maps have lots of issues, tiny data samples, comparing results that are some times 50 years apart etc.

The best guess anyone has is that the average "white" (unmixed western eurasian Caucasiod) has an iq around 100. differences across national borders, as opposed to racial borders, are much harder to find. The idea that Albania and Bosnia would have IQs in the 80s is pretty hard to accept for even pro HBD anthropologists. The populations all pretty much cluster together in the region. When you add in negroids and mongoloids European groups cluster even closer together into a blob. The only real outliers are Basques. Sardinians and Finns, and the reasons they are more unique predate any foreign invasion or Islam by thousands of years.
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>>135653243
No way do Russians have 96 IQ. Out of 200 of them i met in cs go 197 acted worse then any 3rd worlder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trik3TEqX8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plgyBQ-8_YU
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>>135668516
>playing a cancerous game online makes me right
ok man
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>>135668201
Take your redpill slavized bro
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>>135653243
>>135653482
9-fucking-7? That can't be true.
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>>135668692
lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_average_human_height_worldwide
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>>135668516
> implying it's not just middle schoolers and NEET scum who play CS:GO
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>>135668451
Read my first post,i mentioned Albania,Bosnia and Montenegro.Also this are the results form book in 2012.The book has 552 pages so you can read all about the sampling,data etc if you have the time and will to read it.
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E1b1b1ba isn't African you retard, it's a Balkan subclade. I honestly don't know how people from the region don't know their own shit, it's embarrassing.

And like OP said Albanian/Bosniak/Montenegrin "IQ" results need to be taken with a grain of salt because they are based on ESTIMATE data. Flynn and Vannhanen's own data in their other books have them all at 90ish IQ which is standard of the Balkans.
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>>135653243
Mostly because of ottoman occupation.
You got it easy and got occupied by more developed nations like the austrians and hungarians.
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>>135662157
Samis are retarded so your logic makes not sense. In fact, every parameter in Finland goes worse the more it moves away from Southwest Finland. Northeast Finns and Samis are basically unemployed violent alcoholics.
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>>135669162
>>135668201

Meant to reply to this mental midget
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>>135668898
No countries middle schoolers come even cloes to that . And alot of them have voice of 20+ yr old
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>>135653243

because all smart young ppl go west, brain drain

it's left with aging senile populations
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>>135668742
> tfw too intelligent to believe I'm intelligent
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>>135658329

> tfw dumb sheeple mistake advanced memes as shitposting
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>>135669162
It literally comes from North Africa you uneducated cuck
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ooga booga
we literally retard now
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>>135669363

>i have no idea how genetics work: the post

You're a retard, please stop embarrassing yourself and look up what a subclade is.
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>>135669561
you always were
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>>135669607
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml
>Outside Europe, E1b1b is found at high frequencies in Morocco (over 80%), Somalia (80%), Ethiopia (40% to 80%), Tunisia (70%), Algeria (60%), Egypt (40%), Jordan (25%), Palestine (20%), and Lebanon (17.5%). On the European continent it has the highest concentration in Kosovo (over 45%), Albania and Montenegro (both 27%), Bulgaria (23%), Macedonia and Greece (both 21%), Cyprus (20%), Sicily (20%), South Italy (18.5%), Serbia (18%) and Romania (15%).
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>>135668777
Checked the wasted trips

>muh kikepedia

North koreans are some cm shorter than south koreans and still they are the same race.
Because communism is shit.
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>>135669613
(you)
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>>135669725
>muh communism
you are a brainlet and a manlet, considering that you come from africa, i would say iq of 80 is pretty decent for your kind
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>>135669260
NEETs. Seriously, I'm studying in Russia and I've never met a single student who plays CS:GO. It's always either Dota 2 or War Thunder.
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>>135669696

>still doesnt know what a subclade is

T_D is thataway, retard.
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I'm pretty sure gypsies are lowering the result by a few points.
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>>135669922
>meme map with no sources
go back to africa pls, nobody wants you in Europe
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml
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>>135669363
>>135669363
*cough* Because the ancient Egyptians were white *cough*
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>>135653243
Albania had one of the highest iq scores like six or seven years ago in a nationwide study but oh look a map on 4chan says Muslims are al dumb and everyone else is smarter. Fucking cucks. Muslims making babies tenfold while you cucks try to make propaganda against us. Sad!
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>>135670030
I doubt they get taken in samples
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>>135670042
>we wuz egyptikangz
go back to albania you baker
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>>135670105
And why not?
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>>135670039

>haha look how African europe is! Ukraine is from Africa! look at those AFRICAN tatars in russia! omg, dae south germans african?!

are you serbian or something? croats aren't known to be this retarded
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>>135670152
Don't attack our allies idiot
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>>135670062
holy shit anon...im albanian but even for me
this is too much we wuz
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>>135670152
Hitler was of E1b1b haplogroup as well. Same with Napoleon. Whites went North and became bands of roaming savages while the Romans had their empire
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>>135670328
Nah it's true there were iq testing done on every country and Albania was right behind China at number 2 on the ranking before finishing at number 20. No joke I wish I could find it, now right wing cuckolds just make up maps with no sources to defame Muslim countries.
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>>135670466
>doesn't post source
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>>135670522
>>135670253

lmfao fucking retarded serblet
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>>135657794
>Shlomo told me that all white people are inbred.
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>>135669355

>mfw finngoloids have highest IQ in Europe
>mfw 25% finnish
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>>135670475
>literally nigger tier we wuzzing
holy shit
HHAHAHA
>No joke I wish I could find it, now right wing cuckolds just make up maps with no sources to
we posted all of the sources you retarded faggot, just because you ignore them doesn't mean they're wrong
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>>135666503
For you
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>>135670585
>t. brown eyed, black haired and brown skinned aryan albo
kek
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>>135670704
>>135670253

lmfao fucking retarded serblet
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>>135670793
>>135670253 (You)

lmfao fucking retarded serblet
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>>135670809
post a pic of your height, skin color and eye color
pls
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138 IQ AMA
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>>135670062
We wuz smart n sheeit.
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>>135653243
the real question is why are finns so intelligent
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>>135669841
>It literally comes from North Africa you uneducated cuck

Dumb faggot, E1b1b1ba is literally dinaric.
Also who ruled and buid awesome cities in middle-east? arabs?
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>>135670859

>get humiliated because he doesnt know what a subclade is
>p-post your skin color s-shitskin

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

retarded serblet
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>>135670966
What test did you take?
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this map is bullshit, 100 should by the average across the globe, there is no way Europe is under 100 mark.
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>>135670676
It's that special cocktail of ancient European genes making us better than non-whites.

https://www.questia.com/magazine/1P3-3497864861/ice-ages-famine-and-war-the-recipe-for-pisa-success
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>>135671058
>talks with a croats
>posts a serbs that proves that serbs are subhuman brownlets just like albos
lmao
please post a pic of your eye
>>135671048
>Dumb faggot, E1b1b1ba is literally dinaric.
Outside Europe, E1b1b is found at high frequencies in Morocco (over 80%), Somalia (80%), Ethiopia (40% to 80%), Tunisia (70%), Algeria (60%), Egypt (40%), Jordan (25%), Palestine (20%), and Lebanon (17.5%).
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>>135671064
The Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scale. Had to take it with my admission to my faculty.
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>>135671278
>Not having 112IQ
Stop being an IQ'let
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>>135671048
Sorry i wasnt gonna butt in but "literally dinaric" is literally a lie since l2 is literally dinaric.
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>>135671074

KKKSHT we got another keki troll OVER
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>>135671262
>>135670253

lmfao fucking retard
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>>135670522
Would you believe it anyway? Scientists can't even agree on where whites came from, but it makes sense. If they were even "proto-whites" they would have been the only ones with enough intelligence and ingenuity to actually create empires and systems of government.

The niggers obviously can't, or they'd at least be able to function in Africa after this much time.

E1b1b doesn't make a person a nigger. It just makes sense that E1b1b came from the Northern horn of Africa, and then spread North as the more intelligent humans moved North and were/became white at some point.
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>>135671400
>implying he knows what is dinaric and what isn't
why do you even bother bro?
they're as dumb as their brothers algerians
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>>135671278
Did it look like https://www.stanfordbinet.net/stanfordbinettest ?
I'm just trying to find out if irl test are somewhat different or not.
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>>135671364
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>>135671030
Asian genetics
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>>135671431
I2 haplogroup is Dinaric, E1b1b1ba isn't
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>>135671470
>>135670253

lmfao fucking retard
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>>135671449
>doesn't post source
>expects people to believe him
okay bro
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>>135671567
>you not being smart
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>>135671624
>albanian autism
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>>135653243
Too much breeding with turk roaches during ottoman occupation obviously
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>>135671612

when did i mention l2 or dinaric genes?

>>135670253

stare at the map, print it out, put it on your wall so when you wake up every morning you look at it. then maybe you'll learn what a subclade is

retarded subhuman
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>>135671716

>HURR HAHA LOOK HOW AFRICAN EVERYONE IN EUROPE IS HAHAHA WHATS A SUBCLADE DUDE

t. genetics pro

fucking retard lmfao
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>>135663339
>Really makes you wonder why no-one has funded real study.
I imagine it's worthless in this globalist age, I can be in Tokyo tomorrow. All that really matters to the elites and such is individual IQ.
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>>135671531
>https://www.stanfordbinet.net/stanfordbinettest
Yes. They also had geometrical shapes and you would have to match and see if the patterns make any sense, but that came after a few pages worth of filling out.
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>>135671749
>when did i mention l2 or dinaric genes?
Literally every albo here said that E1b1b1ba is dinaric, when it literally isn't
it comes from africa
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>>135671888
>>135671830
>muh jeans
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>>135671830
>LOOK AT ME I WILL WRITE IN CAPS BECAUSE I AM SUPER EDGY AND NOT TRIGGERED XDDD
you are fucking retarded, you don't know shit about genetics, you inbred shit
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>>135671262
north africans are rape-children of macedonians, helens and illirian tribes
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>>135671611
Asianess in Northern Europe represents everything that's worse. That's why Samis can't function properly in modern society. Every ugly person in Northern Europe has genes from Samis. We also took the entire Finland from them during the early Iron Age. Asians = trash.

Their women are good cum dumps tho.
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>>135672073
post a qt sami
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>>135671888

>straw manning and moving the goalposts

"literally" a retard

lmfao

>>135671995

>hurr durr what is a subclade im retarded everyon1 in europe is from afirca XDDd
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>>135672034
hahahhahha
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>>135656805
Ottoman janissaries were european christian captive turned slave soldiers.
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>>135672141
>still ignores the fact that he has barely any European genes
go back to africa you Indian looking faggot
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>>135672135
A good-looking Sami equals somebody who has genes from the south. The whiter it gets the better.
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>>135671470
Some people take time to realise they are wrong. Once they realise, they will either apologise, skew the discussion in a different direction or lie about them not talking about what was being discussed. Was hoping for one of the three. All it takes to understand the haplogroups and genetics is seeing this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M170 which clearly says L haplogroups have unusually tall males, which explains why people in scandinavian and ex-yu countries are tallest in the world.
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>>135672473
post pics
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>>135653243
IQ is mostly genetic, then some educational influence. Those countires are on average much more corrupt and its government services suffer a lot more, such as public education.
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Anyone below the black is a nigger
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>>135672496
Don't forget that Albos are as short as southern chinks, but they're dinaric too ofc
lmao
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>>135672256

albanians are genetically identical to native paleobalkan populations, as is everyone else on the peninsula

anyway, your obsession with whiteness is really cringy, stop trying to larp as a nord you aspie

nobody in the balkans should give a fuck how """""""""""""""white""""""""""""""" they appear to people on a mongolian basket weaving forum
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>>135672570
forgot pic
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>>135672659
>denmark has lower iq than Croatia but croats are niggers
you're retarded
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>>135672636

I wouldn't be too buttmad about your mystery meat genetics. This is what cute blonde European white bois are being conditioned to do now. You'll want to commit suicide every day.
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>>135672764
Anyone below the black line is swarthy
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>>135672636
Kek, you are not white, you don't come from the balkans
you are literally a genetic waste that came from africa because you're too subhuman for them as well
Literally nobody likes you, you look nothing like us and you're stupid as fuck
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>>135672877
>Ireland has iq as high as ukraine but ukrainians are swarthy
kek
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>>135672659
>''''scotland'''
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>>135653243
Because they got enriched by the BTC instead of the BAC
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>>135673061
>IQ is all that matters
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>>135672593
Its intresting, they are shortest people in europe along with turkey if we are counting them, yet tallest albanians are also only christian albanians in their country. Really shows the genetic difference that goes with the nations religion. All concentrated in the north part touching Montenegro.
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>>135673110
ukranians are literally whiter than any British or irish people
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>>135653243
Something is wrong with this map. How can finngoloids be so smart? They are fucking drunkards.
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>>135673078
Your point ?
>"France"
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>>135653243
>brainletugal
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>>135673094
It seems it is reverse for you now
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>>135672539
These two have been BLEACHED so much they are practically larping now.
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>>135673110
Again, the Irish who remain there are just what was left over after the potato famine. If the Irish who came to America went back, they would be on-par with the rest of Europe
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Croats are bro-tier. Really helpfull and kind people. Theire women is hot.

Only saw 1 nigger there in a whole week and he was a swedish tourist.
As soon as i landed back home, there was 3 niggers hollering at the airport, a gypsy begging for money, a chink in a food store and jihadis waiting for the next airplane to turkey.

From my 1 week observation, Croatia is more european than most of northern europe even though they on average have a much darker skintone.
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>>135653243
>Ireland
>94
What? Why?
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>>135673185
>Hohols
>Smart
fuck off big chief
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>>135673284
look like regular finns to me
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>>135673340
>ignores the iq differences
you are the dumb one here
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>>135673311
>muh famines
literally all yous talk about
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>>135672932

>Kek, you are not white, you don't come from the balkans
>you are literally a genetic waste that came from africa because you're too subhuman for them as well

>The three haplogroups most strongly associated with Albanian people (E-V13, R1b and J2b2) are often considered to have arrived in Europe from the Near East with the Neolithic revolution or late Mesolithic, early in the Holocene epoch. Within the Balkans, all three have a local peak in Kosovo, and are overall more common among Albanians, Greeks and Vlachs than Slavs (albeit with some representation among Bulgarians).

>Haplogroups in the modern Albanian population is dominated by sub-clade E1b1b1a (E-M78) and specifically by the most common European sub-clade of E-M78, E-V13.[8] Most E-V13 in Europe and elsewhere descend from a common ancestor who lived in the late Mesolithic or Neolithic, possibly in the Balkans.

>Literally nobody likes you, you look nothing like us and you're stupid as fuck

omg im not popular on an anime forum :(

>>135673139

>Its intresting, they are shortest people in europe

objectively wrong

>yet tallest albanians are also only christian albanians in their country

objectively wrong

the tallest albanians are northern ghegs who aren't very mixed and are muslims and catholics, has absolutely nothing to do with religion

shorter albanians are tosks who are more intermixed with greeks, slavs, everyone else
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>>135673216
Whatever you say vatnik.
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>>135673253
What's the story with the name?
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>>135673440
>a swarthy med-nigger
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>>135673488
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_average_human_height_worldwide
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml
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>>135673269
Ye
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>>135673562
probably whiter than you faggot, i doubt that you're whiter than a ginger
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>>135673506
Alba is just Gaelic for Scotland.
Which that map is in and it is basically our version of Breton except they arent complete cunts about it.
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>>135673216
Mongoloids generally have higher iq than the whiteys.
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>>135673786
>muh gingers
That doesn't run in my family, know a few though.
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>>135673710

we arent even the shortest on that list, you absolute retard

and albania was extremely impoverished until the late 90s/early 2000s thanks to hoxha and his lifelong stalin jerkoff session

i cant fathom how you can link data without reading it yourself and just assume people won't call you out on your absolute autism

i think you're the 82iq person in this thread tbqh
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>>135657794
>iceland
>not inbred
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>>135673900
suck my dick you Scottish pleb
you are literally worse than albanians
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>>135673844
Doesn't explain why Sami-mixes and and Russians are so inferior to Finns then.
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>>135673969
my iq is 127 last time i checked
>i cant fathom how you can link data without reading it yourself and just assume people won't call you out on your absolute autism
lmao, ignorest the height differences even though Croatia was communist more than albania, ignores the fact that their iq is the lowest in Europe even lower than fucking turkeys
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>>135673488
I am sorry, objectivly neither are wrong due to it being supported by studies that are easly verifiable. There is nothing to get upset about either, you should first care about yourself. If you are short and so on, see what you can excel at if you have not already. But seeing your attitude, i assume you have not.
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>>135674027
Coz clearly russians have at the very least lower mongoloid admixture.
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>>135673786
>whiter than a ginger

They're usually the palest whites...
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>>135674018
>t.triggered slavshit.
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>>135656805
Slavs had a very efficient method to absorb conquered natives.

Everyone gets enslaved.
The better looking women get taken as war brides.
Rebels get hanged.
The only way to rid your self of the position of a slave is to either train to become a capable craftsman or warrior.

As such Croats did mix a lot with the natives.
Especially in the coastal cities where old Slavic became the lingua franca during the 12th century and remained as such despite every effort of the Venetians to change that.
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>>135670704
Qatar IQ is near 100 now, but I guess the Flynn effect is a myth
http://www.qscience.com/doi/abs/10.5339/qfarf.2012.AHP45
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>>135674204
thats my point faggot
i have no soul
>>135674263
go die in a famine
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>>135674181
Since Russians are more Chink and the Finnish average is elevated by North-East Finns, why aren't you performing better than us?
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>>135674171

>objectivly neither are wrong due to it being supported by studies that are easly verifiable

ok, post the studies that show catholic albanians are taller than muslim albanians, im sure you know more than a catholic albanian such as myself

>There is nothing to get upset about either

im not upset, but one of the things that annoys me most in life is when people open their mouth regarding topics they don't understand

as the quote goes, better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
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>>135674393
>thats my point faggot
>i have no soul

You bought into the stupid ass Jew meme. kys
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>>135657794
Unlike Germany , France and Sweden we banned incest.
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>>135674434
Finland is an ethnostate, russia is not.
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Well I have to be realistic and say that my cunt isn't smarter than the west but you have to take into account that 10% of the population are gypsies and turks with gypsies being turbonigger tier and because our most gifted people (but also a shitton of toilet cleaning gypsies) are abroad.
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>>135674515
fucking lol
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>>135674393
>scots had famines
m8 stop being an IQ'let and speak nice to your superiors
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>>135674436
Your logic is
Because you had communism for 60 years, your height plummeted for over 10 cm compared to mostly dinaric countries like Croatia, Bosnia and Serbia even though they have been communist more than Albania itself?
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>>135674135

>my iq is 127 last time i checked

hola leddit

>lmao, ignorest the height differences even though Croatia was communist more than albania

hahaha. yugoslavia was the least communistic state in the entirety of east europe, for fucks sake your country was propped up by IMF loans until the very end

you really are 15
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>>135653243
12%-14% turks and gypsies, maybe even more cause these statistics are gathered in the most retarded way possible
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>>135674744
>174 cm tall
HAHAHA
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>>135670039
>meme map with no sources
Are croats autistic? How can you allegedly have the highest IQ in the balkans and not understand the concept of a subclade? You must bring down the national average by quite alot.
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>>135674719

no, because yugoslavia was a land of milk and honey propped up by international loans and had relative peace and prosperity for decades whereas places like albania or romania were stalinist hellholes that were closed off and impoverished

yugoslavia never had anything close to actual communism, you got off lucky compared to the rest of the balkans and east europe

impoverishment leads to malnutrition, guess what malnutrition does to development?
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>>135674681
It's literally a Jew meme. Just like the anti-Irish meme

>Redheads have very fair skin, almost always lighter than non-redheads. This is an advantage in northern latitudes and very rainy countries, where sunlight is sparse, as lighter skin improves the absorption of sunlight, which is vital for the production of vitamin D by the body.

>Red hair has long been associated with Celtic people. Both the ancient Greeks and Romans described the Celts as redheads. The Romans extended the description to Germanic people, at least those they most frequently encountered in southern and western Germany. It still holds true today.
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>>135674610
Nonsense. There's a shit load of genetic diversity here. The words Finland/Suomi only apply to the province Finland Proper anyway. Everyone outside of it are technically not Finns or not as Finnish.
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>>135653243

historical graph

The IQ in Sweden is much lower now.
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>>135674934
>>135674911
we wuz tall n shiet
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>>135674436
You are clearly upset about the fact albanians have lower iq and are short for european standards and im telling you not to be, especially here where you cant even see or hear the person you are arguing with. Nothing to win really.

I have not said there are studies about catholic albanians being taller, i have said that both L2 albanians which are in the north based on maps posted here are also where the christian albanians are, also based on maps posted on /pol/ very often. What i said there are studies about is iq and height. Or should i say, what i implied. You can read again if you are not sure what i wrote.
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>>135675101
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>>135675204
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>>135675174

im not upset about anything, the IQ chart is based off estimates and no factual data and the data makers said so themselves

but, you're right, there is nothing to win, im arguing with a 15 year old retard (not yourself, the other guy) obsessed with some nordic idea of whiteness that cant analyze data and constantly moves goalposts

thanks for reminding me that im wasting my time
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>>135653243
it's simple, they're subhuman
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>>135675101
babby's first genetics lesson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subclade
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>>135675447
WE WUZ WHITE N TALL N SHIET
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>>135673061
Have you ever met some hundreds of Ukrainians?
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>>135675537
Not hundreds but a several, yes
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>>135674434
Thank jewish bolsheviks for that. Russians took enormous hit from them.
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>>135675374
Its definitely not perfect and its not very useful if someone is looking for great individuals, but there is some truth to them, otherwise it would be very different and albania would have much better standing economically and so on.

When it comes to whiteness, its one of the worse discussions you can have, here or anywhere. I believe Benjamin Franklin said term white comes from the colonial times when it was used to describe european countries that colonized others. European is the only term worth using and its good to acknowledge we have many different types of people everywhere.
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suck my ass bitchboy, I'll let you know that I took an online IQ test and scored about 357 this will be Europe in ten years
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>>135675751
Noticed something?
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>Croats were cucked by literal cockroaches
>still think they are superior
lmao
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>>135658341

>kosovoniggers
>serbs
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>>135676070
Not really?
They look exactly like russians i've met, didn't expect anything different
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>>135676103
>Scottish
>accomplishments
pick one
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>>135676381
gr8 b8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_inventions_and_discoveries
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>>135662482
>why are poles such brainlets?
Honestly there's an interesting question about the reliability of this data. If you look at PISA scores for example (which should be a reliable estimate of national IQ) we're much higher.
So dunno, would like to see a source from which the Vanhanen and Lynn got their data.
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>>135676381
>>135676457
Guys please, i like Trainspotting, stop it.
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>>135669260

It's mostly because either

1. We don't play seriosly, we'll as matter of fact play bad on purpose to piss people off
2. autism
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>>135653243

>ireland
>94.9

Portuguese admix?
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>>135671262

SERBED

pic related was right, we truly did rule over all the sandniggers
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>>135677128
Ireland was the last country to develop in western Europe.
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>>135676279
According to my personal experience they are bit dumber than russians, this is the only difference between ukrainians and russians. Estonia has shitloads of both because fucking soviet union migration.
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>>135663800
Finns are generally honest people, it'd be extremely shamefur dispray to fake results.

The results are taken from PISA anyways, which are no secret, and not conducted by Vanhanen.
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>>135678132
We had an ukranian in class. He bragged he scored the highest marks back in Ukraine but he was really dumb as a rock.
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>>135678132
I guess they were a bit dull, but still
They were no different from any Irish people when it comes to intelligence imo
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>>135672932
only crorats ive seen here were some from zagreb
absolute shitskins
>crorat iq
https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country
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>were native european guys! I2 guys!

someone take those rats back to india with their haplos
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>>135653243
>>135654248

Pic unrelated
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>>135658274
>then correlation between christian orhodoxy and IQ as a theory
Which has a merit. Catholic Church was very strong in fighting against cousin marriage and other forms of inbreeding, which naturally increased IQs over generations.
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Croatbro I am a black haured and brown eyed 175 cm tall southerner, with dense fur covering my limbs and chest. I am gonna have more children than a muslim couple how do you feel about that?
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>>135680863
>posting gypsies
>croats
lmao, try harder
>>135679846
>stats from 2002
try harder
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>>135653243
Constant flow of brain power from poorer countries to richer ones.
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>>135678515
Would you say that finns have a higher iq than swedes and norwegians?
Maybe Finland score high in PISA but it also has very few immigrants and the schools that are tested matter a lot, also in a sense of economy and development Finland has always lagged behind other nordic countries.
Not bashing your country btw, I'm just interested in your honest opinion.
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>>135653243
Ireland's IQ isn't 95. It's 101. All modern data points to that number. Also Sweden is higher than 97
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>>135682350
>gypsies
Oh I'm laffing. You guys don't have even a quarter as many gypsies as the rest of the balkans. Those are croats you nigger.
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>>135676814
serb making things up,what a rare specimen.
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>>135661860
Finland and Ireland are arguably 2 of the smartest European countries on Earth.

Lynn's numbers are absolute shit. Stop posting them
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>>135653243

Education system is dead. That's all.
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>>135674546
You had to ban it.
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>>135684373
croatia also banned gay marriages,it greatly stopped degeneracy.how you doin there sweden ?
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Miss me with this Jewish propadanga
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>>135667702
>>135668218

No, you're both wrong. Ireland's PISA scores are higher than England's. Every time. The Irish in England outperform the native English in school. And the Irish outperform the English in America.

http://www.academia.edu/2629869/The_White_British-Black_Caribbean_achievement_gap_tests_tiers_and_teacher_expectations

>"test data at age 7, age 11 and age 14 and public examinations at age 16. While the pattern of ethnic gaps differ somewhat across age groups, and some gaps have narrowed over time,broadly speaking the attainment of Black Caribbean, Black African, Black Other, Pakistani and Bangladeshi groups is below that of their White British peers, while Chinese, Indian and Irish pupils score higher than White British (DfES, 2006, p39).
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>>135653243
Finland, Estonia, Lichtenstein, Ireland, Netherlands are smartest countries in Europe according to annual educational attainment, PISA scores, per capita GDP, wealth per family.
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Serbs and Croats are the same people, yet they have different IQs...

2017 and there are retards who still don't know that IQ is strongly correlated with education. You fucking idiots really do believe there are African countries with IQ averages of 60-70. KYS now you dumb fucks.
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>>135666905
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>>135664569
This.

And much of the diaspora that fled to North America during the estado novo were and still are illiterate and uneducated.
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>>135686366
IQ is real. It is about 50-80 heritable.

Having said that, Richard Lynn's numbers are absolute fucking garbage. He's actually ruining the IQ movement with his sloppy slapdash style. He needs to disappear. If I've figured out how bad Lynn's data it won't take the Left long. He is going to hurt us. Watch
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>>135683463
>Would you say Finns have a higher IQ than Swedes and Norwegians

Yes, absolutely. The data is overwhelming
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