Was American colonisation that bad for Natives?

It was the greatest crime of world history tbqh.

>>135640422
neck urself sausage nigger. Your country is on it's third go at destroying Europe. The natives were gonna die from European germs no matter what. it's not like there was a whole lot of agency in what wiped them out. read a book.

>>135640282
No.
>>135640422
>German
Fuck off Hassan

>>135640422
>what is holocaust

>>135641044
tell me about it.

>>135640282
The two worlds meeting was inevitable, it's good for them that it happened before semi-automatics were invented.

no
t. COLONY'D

>>135640827
>>135640956
No need getting triggered so much. Nothing wrong with genocide really, as long as you don't let the countries you created by it fall in the hands of niggers and commies afterwards.

for the natives, yes
for civilization, no

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>>135640282
It was bad for their males who sa the best woman breed with the alpha iberian men

>>135640422
>>135641044

0/10
Work on your b8 anons

american indian males were the most cucked group in history

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>>135641044
the worlds biggest lie

>>135640282
if europeans left the world alone, everyone would still be living in mud huts and tribes.

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>>135641774

>>135640282

It was the only thing that brought civilization to this continent , when you leave natives to do their thing it ends up with extreme poverty like Haiti

t. local pablo

>>135640422
Colonization was good overall

>>135641524
Unironically this.
Imagine Soviet Russia landing in Mesoamerica, I don't think even ruins of the old civilizations there would remain.

>>135640282
It was bad because they didn't commit to either full Genocide or Alliance.
It was a half-done job, like everything Spain has done.

>>135641859
The only place those fake pictures appear is on sites decrying them as fakes and posting the real ones alongside. I'm pretty sure they're a false flag by holocaust deniers.

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>>135640282
They were begging for it

>>135642166

Imagine how different history would be if Napoleon didn't fuck with the Spanish crown at the time that they were dealing with the colonies.

>>135641631
To add more info to my 1st reply , when the wars for independence happened Argentina - Chile - Peru -Colombia etc did it to stop being governed by the Spanish but this did not meant that the original people of the Americas lead the independence progress

A mix of Criollos and Mestizos lead the movement and they all came from the mix of blood between Spanish fathers and Indigenous mothers to the point where DNA studies done here show how over 90% of the pop have Y chromosomes that math those from the Iberian peninsula ( Spain and Portugal ) , Mitochondrial DNA ( from mother to mother , present only in the female egg , not the male sperm ) is mostly form indigenous woman

As for the genocide : there was no other option really if you consider the time period where it happened , hell even now there are natives burning cars and shit in the south of Chile so I'm not really fond of them

have some background info

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chile-trial-idUSBREA1R1V120140228

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/02/20/mapuche-indian-guilty-in-chile-arson-that-killed-elderly-couple-terrorism.html

http://www.coha.org/chiles-biased-counter-terrorist-laws-the-luchsinger-mackay-case/

The last two are very biased towards the native terrorists
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/04/chilean-couple-arson-land-mapuche

>>135643638
What if we archive that
>https://theguardian com/world/2013/jan/04/chilean-couple-arson-land-mapuche
https://archive.is/Z1DTz

>>135641044
A thing that didnt happen

>>135640282
Tbh I can hardly believe the Spanish fucked all those mestizo women. They aren't pretty or cute like this image implies, they are disgusting hobgoblins like Jeb's wife. They should have brought their women with them when they did colonization like the English did in the North.

Was it good that Hitler admired what happened to Native Americans?


-fbfounder.Native

>>135640282
You take anything the British did when they were colonizing and crank it up the cruelty too 11 when talking about the Spanish, the Dutch in particular were fucking barbaric in comparison. But guess who gets the most flak?

Riddle me this?

Is it good that you're lives have been improved by having come up with

1. C++ standardization
2. facebook
3. Twitter
4. Bing
5. Windows phone
6. Droid
7. Inprivate browser
8. Incognito browser
9. abc.xyz
...


And I'm impoverished.

Is it good?

fbfounder.Native


That was my post with the list.

>>135643673

I was going to archive it b4 posting but couldn't be bothered , thanks nordbot

> They should have brought their women with them

Agree ,but the English where moving as families and looking to settle , the Spanish moved working men because they came to grab resources, #3 Biggest mistake in the history of mankind , only after black slavery and not killing Jews in the times of the Bible

Not a single cent.

I'm not going to come on here and lie about it.
fbfounder.Native

You can't answer because you know it's fckd up.


fbfounder.Native

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>>135645234 | >>135645008 |>>135644833 | >>135644713
No one knows whom are you replying to.

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>strangers come in and steal all your land and shit
>give you their awful diseases and kill off massive portions of your population
>make deals with you then backstab and plunge the knife deep to take more of what they want

yeah no it was totally awesome for the natives, you fuckin' idiot

>>135640282
Nah dude they stole their land, murdered and raped their families, how could that be bad. Fucking retard

>>135644713
lay off the drugs man

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tfw no harem of indias in bumfuck Amazon forest

someone has to have that link to that scientific study that shows how despite European genetics are a minority in South America about 90% of Y chromosomes are from European descent. I laughed out loud when I first read it.

>>135643558
t h i c c

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>>135641044

>>135641683
Thanks for the castizos senpai.

A better question is whether or not it was good for the world. America is the reason for a lot of degeneracy and SJW / civil rights shit. But it also paid for the repair of Europe after Hitler's autistic screeching and has done a lot of other good shit. If it wasn't for the US Europe would probably be Russian or Chinese by now

>>135649574
>wasn't for the US E
If it wasn't for the US Germany would have been allowed to carry on without intervention, bringing us into a glorious Golden Age of Germanic rule. Fuck your mongrel nation for stopping Hitler

>>135646665
>90% of Y chromosomes are from European descent. I laughed out loud when I first read it.
Which means? Yes I'm dumb

>>135649959
It means they descend from Spaniards on the male sides, and Indians on the female side. The Spaniard Conquistadores fucked the native women, basically.

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>>135643558
H U E

>>135648290
The one with tears of laughter needs a MAGA hat.

>>135650183
It's no secret that the spaniards raped the natives, sven.

>>135649931
Russia stopped hitler friend

>>135650399
>Implying it wasn't consensual, as living white Gods from the other side of the planets just crossed through their jungle

>>135649959
Means that whites banged all the native women

>>135640282
Good guy, getting conquered is nice if some people possibly get shiny things for it. Just ask refugee center staff.

>>135640282
No,that made us evolve.

>>135650399
>raped
They were gold diggers, not rape victims.

>>135641044
>commie thinks he can lecture others about human rights

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>>135650455

>>135640422
Agree, mating with the subhumans was a mistake, should have erradicated them like the north americans did

>>135641631
but... isn't that what your shithole is doing?

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>>135651063

Yes, the European literally genocided the population with their diseases.

>>135640282
Nope.

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>>135651231

>>135643787
spain is a fundamentally different society from england, anon. different history, different hierarchy, different religion. they also conquered the most populous parts of america, unlike the english who only had to deal with small algonquin tribes being gradually eradicated by the iroquois

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>>135651270

>>135651238
And rightfully so.

>>135650210
these are not the Amerindian qts I was promised

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>>135651322

>>135650399
This. Colombus himself traded native women into sex slavery and sanctioned rape by his crew. His crimes were so brutal that he was imprisoned for them, though he was freed shortly after due to court intrigue.

>>135651532
You can stop at any time

>>135641044
a lot more people died during colonization

>>135651238
Genocide has to be intentional Mr. Huehue. Then again, your people are so dumb they elected a brutal Japanese warlord. I doubt they'd understand more difficult concepts like intent.

>>135651548
>This. Colombus himself traded native women into sex slavery and sanctioned rape by his crew. His crimes were so brutal that he was imprisoned for them, though he was freed shortly after due to court intrigue.


That is some made up revisionist history bullshit right there

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>>135651532

>>135651231
How is literally every single one fat?

>>135651532
Wood bang right one, can I live naked in their soicety and see naked girls 24/7?

who cares

>>135643558
SAAAAUCE

>>135651675
It's taken from his own diary and the diary of a crew member he gave a slave girl to. He specifically writes about young slave girls being in demand at one point.

Spain enslaving Natives isn't exactly controversial. One soldier with Colombus was so horrified by his atrocities that he became a Catholic monk and dedicated his life to helping Natives, with little success.

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>>135651716

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>>135640827
thanks for saving europe from us.
i hope you get the irony in crushing the last bastion of white europe, with volunteers from literally every country in europe and blaming them for "destroying europe"

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>>135651675
If you don't like facts don't study history.

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>>135641044
>hoax

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>>135645008
>>135645234
>>135644833
>>135644713
these posts reek of either new or crazy

>>135640282
On the one hand, their native race is DEMOLISHED

On the other, modern life is infinitely better and due to Europeans

>>135651063
>>135651231
Wtf macaquinho, all of them are THICC af.

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>>135652065

>>135652065
done?

>>135640282
Some of them were really mistrated.

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>>135651394
I gotchu bro.

>>135649959
>>135650183
Spaniards, Portuguese and other Europeans had sex with many women, basically it was polygamy, several females per male. Amerindian males didn't contribute not even a 10% of what is the actual population today.

Being just one male per several females, and knowing many of their offspring would interbreed with natives again the percent of overall amerindian ancestry is the highest, but the specific part males are supposed to contribute, the Y chromosome is still European.

>>135651307
The main reasons why the English didn't colonize South America are 1) geographical (maritime routes and so) and 2) they didn't have the guts to deal with the Caribe natives, which were fucking monsters, extremely violent cannibal people. The english were smarter and went directly for resources and land, the spanish did take it the first decades as a religious obligation to convert the pagans in the New World. Take into account that Spaniards begun way earlier and the naval technology (ships and etc) was not as developed for trans Atlantic travel.

The first half of a century of exploration or so was never profitable, often half of the crew would die during the travel, no resources were valuable enough to pay for that kind of travel (the gold would come many decades later) and the whole thing only made sense in terms of a religious quest to bring christianity to those who were uncivilized.

The Spanish monarchs squandered billions of their imperial wealth in the New world, which would eventually pay back, but only many decades later.

Also the monopoly on cocoa was one of the most important sources of wealth for the Spanish crown.

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>>135652253
>>135652262
done.

>>135641859
What the actual FUCK! Is that seriously real, the part about the civil war started by the Jews!? FUCKING HELL!!! It all makes sense now!

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>>135640282
No, the natives played the various colonial powers off each other and greatly benefited from it. When France was removed as a player from the Americas in Seven Years' War the natives lost the ability to play the colonisers but we weren't aggressive towards them.

Then America revolted and the rest is history.

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>>135650210
>>135650455
>>135651063
>>135651231
>>135651270
>>135651322
>>135651532
>>135651716
>>135652003
>>135652065
>>135652253
>>135652377

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>>135643558
>>135650210
>>135650455
>>135651231
>>135651270
>>135651322
>>135651532
>>135651716
>>135652003
>>135652065
>tfw you never will be a conquistador and deflower native qts
why live?

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>>135652248
>demolished.

Stay forever mad euros.

>>135652377
No idea why you're posting ugly women

>>135642351
they are literally on wikipedia....

>>135652378
yes it is real. as a side note, france was also close to a communist civil war before germany marched in in 1940 and we all know the spanish civil war, also communist/jewish inspired.

>>135640282
I was born in argentina with white skin, so, I can safely say that colonization was good.

t. local pablo

>>135652788
Because your euro blood can't resist them, we have an entire continent of proofs.

>>135640282
I feel bad for native Americans because they have gotten the short end for a long fucking time now.

However, people need to understand they were just people before. There were warfare based tribes and my god Comancheria was basically a small empire.

Europeans just came with better technology, small pox, and rum. I wish we did better by natives now but history is a cyclic story about people running each other over.

>>135653359
It was literally their only option if they wanted to dump a nut in something

>>135641044
Depends which "Holocaust" you're talking about Schlomo.

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>>135653017
I can clearly say colonization was a mistake, should have beheaded the hapspergers and installed a local monarch and just traded with the new world for new world crops, and thats it.

>>135640282
Yes they brought over packs and packs of niggers, please send HELP

>>135640282
Yeah, like a fuck ton of them were fucking killed.

sure the ones that lived get gibs and technology. but its a tragedy.

However it happened hundreds of years ago and if some gnat tries to guilt trip me over it, fuck them. I didn't rape their great grandmother so why hold me accountable for it.

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>>135643558
>tfw you have the same bodytype minus boobs and vag plus dick and balls.

>>135653651
That clearly explains why they keep on doing it.

>>135640282
Colonization was a gift for all shitskins, we gave them food, technology, life expectancy and civilization, they live better than they ever did. If they were not ungrateful and jealous trash they would bow everytime they cross the path of a white man.

>>135640422
Islam is.

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>>135654115
Now they've become one, all of them are mixed with something in that genetic hellscape known as south america

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>>135653830
>>135653830
Comuneros should have won.

>>135640282
Well it was a nonstop war for territory that they were losing, so yes.

>>135640282
They were a bunch of guys who got into a boat, took the wrong turn and had to look for a place to spend the night.
Some misunderstandings, things escalated and... yada yada yada civilized barbarians.

Any problem?

>>135640282
Worst thing OP

>>135644713
>bing
At least it doesn't show niggers when searching european history

>>135654310
You are more mixed than us..

>>135654310
You have more blacks than us, even Argentina is whiter than you

>>135654754
Just accept it, stop lying to yourself

>>135640282
Dont know. Big majority of them are dead.

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>>135640282
>tfw you'll never again be able to rape and pillage and be able to call it "just".

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>>135640282
>Tfw no qt indian gf
;_;

>>135654862
The US is big. Yes there are nigger infestations but there's also very white states. You guys are str8 nonwhite solidly

>>135654932
Americans did that in France, Germany, Vietnam, Japan, Afhanistan, Libya and iraq.

>>135654894
I like our genes m8 they beat the euros fair and square.

Who cares? They were cannibalistic savages.

>>135654862
I always hear that, but why is it that we don't hear much innovations/science or big famous companies coming out of SA countries when they have so many whites? Genuine question.

>>135654982
Indian qts belong to Indian dicks.

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>>135655192
I mean feather Indians not you guys.

>>135655192
South America doesnt have any whites.

>>135654862
>even
Come on chilebro, argentinia isn't bad enough to justify that "even" when compared to the United Nignogs of Brownmerica

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>>135654754
Many of the people you'd consider to be white aren't white but heavily mixed mongrels.

>>135640282

The Encomienda System was truly fucked up. Between being enslaved, killed, or straight up dying of disease, yeah I'd say they lost out in the Columbian Exchange

>>135655192
Most of them end with the Indians and Chinese in the universities of Europe.

The brain drain it's real.

>>135655425
How about all Africans return to Africa and all whites return to Europe?

Those jungle sluts needed liberating from subhuman apes!

>>135640282

It was the only one that did it right, so yes.

Wipe the native population, repopulate with your own people, leave sad pathetic remnants to drink themselves to death in reservations.

Do it any other way and you get shit like Africa or South America.

>>135640282
Considering that some of them believed that if you don't carve out hearts from living human beings on daily basis the Sun will refuse to return or sending little kids to be frozen on mountain tops will ensure better harvest? No.

>>135655561
Who can blame them? I'd prefer to live with whites as well.

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>>135655421

>>135640282
European diseases were worse than the colonialism. A lot of times, the European germs would get to the natives before the Europeans, and it would wipe them out. Us whites are soo good at genocide that we sometimes do it by accident.

Daily reminder that eurocucks even with all their technology and muh civilization couldnt never take down the based Mapuche warrior race that still lives to this day.

>>135655192
Our history have been quite chaotic to settle and innovate in science, most chilean brains go aboard to USA/Europe to work, I guess the same happens in India

>>135640282
Obviously. The diseases carried by Europeans killed a ton of them.

>>135656060
>Mapuche warrior race
We could literally bomb them off the planet, not choosing to do so =/= not able to.

>>135656050
Not just Europe. Old world diseases traveled and bred all over Europe and Asia.

>>135656189
>what is guerilla warfare

Ask USA if they could just "bomb" Vietnam

>>135656189
Well you had your chance with superior numbers, the plague and firearms but you still lost.

Any American white ethnonationalists here? Do you think that the native peoples should have their own ethnostates too? I support nationalism to a certain extent, but I get sad when I think how utterly fucked and cucked the native people currently are, and I'd like them to regain some strength and pride.

>>135653700
Sauce?

>>135640282
At first it was a net negative. But with the technology that the Europeans brought their populations are greater now than when they were pre-Colombian excange.

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>>135655317
Indian qts belong to Indian dicks, did you not hear me?

>>135655561
But still, I read that Brazil alone has more whites than Germany (I may be incorrect here), but SA has so many whites they should basically be Europe 2.0. Is brain drain so massive, or are there other issues?

>>135656060
Yes brain drain is huge in our case, but our country is much more of a shithole so it's expected. SA is relatively much more well off.

>>135655192
DESIGNATED

>>135656890
Wrong!

Their populations are way smaller. They were eradicated from here for example and in the US the lowball estimate was that 10 million lived there. It was probably way more.

>>135656390
>muh geurilla warfare
Yes the US could of bombed Vietnam into submission if they wanted to.

>>135656442
Yes I'm sure whiping those irrelevant savages out was the nr1 priority. Being this delusional.

>>135657209
>Yes the US could of bombed Vietnam into submission if they wanted to.
We almost did. North Vietnam was on the verge of surrender after Operation Linebacker II. But then we would have been stuck rebuilding their country afterwards. Sound familiar?

>>135656975
We have research and scientists but to be taken into consideration you need at least a PhD from the Max Planck or the MIT and by then the research its already done and published, obviously the academia being like it is doesn't accept papers published under SA institutions.

>>135656975
Trust me we're 100% behind Indian women staying with Indian men

In India

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>>135640282
They were either forced into reservations where they're killing themselves with alcohol and nigger culture, or raped and forced to birth mestizos.

At least some of their women are pretty attractive... when they're not obese and diabetic.

>>135643558
There was a LOT of fucking by the European men when they got tot he new world... a LOT!

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>>135657209
At some point this was the only real warzone and the war lasted more than three hundred years.

They even wrote epic poems about how we beat them it was lovely.

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>>135656975
I mean native women not your women.

>>135656975
>Is brain drain so massive, or are there other issues?
Socialism, any person with a working brain realized that spending 97% of what you work for in taxes so shaniqua might have free healthcare for her 7th baby is retarded, we mode into other countries.

I'm going to get outta here as soon as I can.

>>135640827
It was your country with their "denazification" brainwashing that got us where we are today.
Congratulations.

>>135658207
Being this delusional and not being white, must suck to be you.

>>135640422
To be fair, shit like this has been going on ever since the first humans.

The only reason this looks worse than what a shit ton of other peoples and ethnicities did in previous is history is due to the technology difference.

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>>135658207
Dude, do you actually believe that the mapus were fighting against the full force of the spanish empire?
I live just next to the descendants of tribes that aswell were "never defeated". That means they lived in a worthless jungle and when thay actually began to fuck with trade route, they were BTFO in the 1880s and early 1900s.

Now they cry "muh genocide" when they were the ones wanting to fight. Pic related the Abipones.

>>135655421
>aren't white but heavily mixed mongrels

KEK! You say that and use a pic of heavily athletic healthy mongrels!

>>135660128
And?

>>135650243
Now now, we wanna make it subte

>>135643558
this is a fetish I didn't know I had

>>135640422
Yes we should go full genocide but have no people here after fight the anglos and retake Iberia, so we just went there and did that, you know, beaners

>>135640282
It only really got bad when the SJW equivalents of the time, Imperialists that felt it was the white man's burden to enlighten the world, got a hold of them. It all really started to turn to shit when they started to meddle. Conservatives back in the day thought Empire was a waste of time and money... But the left believed they had to engage in this wasteful enterprise for the benefit of those poor underprivileged savages.

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This proves that whites had an Asian fetish haha

first the asians tried to break through eastern europe then we went to south america to fuck their women lul

>>135660363
You seem to be subconsciously conflicted.

Good in the long run since we are a hybrid that is better than fucking whites and natives combined. We got the best of both worlds

Too bad the spics and niggers didn't put their superior genes to use

>>135661836
You don't seem to understand the term mongrel.

>>135649931
What was Sweden doing to help Germany during the war?

>>135651167
yes why Spain do you make me suffer!! here with all the mestizos. My family is the only Criollo family here in this small town save me please!!!!!!!!!!!

>>135640282
It was disastrous for the Caribbean natives. Most of those groups are extinct and have been replaced with niggers.

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>>135640282
>Spanish colonization
>literally the only successful attempt at integrating natives
>most stable colonial empire
>didn't wipe out the natives like other american colonies

Yet anglo-niggers still slander them for muh genocide muh christopher columbus

>>135662506
we need more Euros here to keep them under control!!! come to the lower americas please have 1000 kids save us.

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>>135643558
How could they have resisted?

>>135641044
>what is Armenian genocide

>>135653925
The residential schools were pretty fucked, bro. I understand that there are two sides to every story, but those schools really fucked up everyone that went into them and they were closed down in the 80s. So, there are people alive today that were impacted by progressive policies towards indigenous peoples in our country... And unfortunately, we have to fucking hear about it.

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>>135651743
>fat
*THICC

>>135656975
I married an Indian and have reproduced with her a number of times. Deal with it.

>>135640422
hard to say that much, given the relative evil of the societies being conquered and the much greater evils perpetrated in Africa (eg. mass dismemberment as collective punishment)

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>No Portuguese flags in ITT

They hide their craft well

>>135663434
She could probably rape me desu

>>135659096
I actually believe it was Nazification that got you where you are today, Hans. It's okay that you feel that way. You can never expect a German to take responsibility for his actions.

>>135654982
my gf actually looks like that but with pink nipples

>>135663839
Casino indian or poo indian? Cause if it's a poo, it brings a whole new meaning to shitposting.

>>135664420
Casino and luxury golf resort and spa Indian. We stayed there once. They turned the old St. Eugene residential school in a hotel even. Pretty nice. Would have been better if I golfed.

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>>135652378
(for you)

>>135651934
Virtually all the most ridiculous stories of muh genocide about Spain come from that "one soldier" you mentioned (Bartolomé). His accounts weren't particularly accurate, especially his figures on the native population numbers and causes of deaths (he overestimated how many natives there were, and blamed genocide instead of disease for population loss). That isn't to say Spain was kind or humanitarian, but they weren't evil savages either.

>>135652378
Yep. I had the same reaction back when I first saw that pic, no wonder they don't teach that at schools. It truly is /pol/'s strongest redpill.

>>135663389
Yes i'm responsible for residential schools because i was born in 88

Yeah nah. Fuck off.

blame the people who did the wrong doing. But don't blame me for it.

>>135662340
You are probably better off there. We are swarmed with sand niggers, commies, corrupt politicians and feminists retards.

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>>135652596
Why didn't Germans anything except Europe? They might be a little less reich-y if they got it out of their system during the colonial period.

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>>135640827
>third
The German is the enemy of the White Man.

>>135665897
nah divorce attorneys are, natural enemies

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>>135665629
Answer question, pls.

I am actually like 50% native American genetically (both parents are 'native' aka mutts). Obviously it was a bad thing because so many millions died, but when 95% of those deaths were from disease at a time when germ theory wasnt even a twinkle in anyone's eye, you cant be too mad. It is all for the best now though, as natives, we now have privileged access to three things, casinos, marine mammals, and meth.

>>135665897
you're a fucking retard

>>135665629
Because we had pretty egoistic leaders
>>135665897
Autistic Polish screaching is not an Argument
>Germanic People were invite as foederati
>Biologically superior
>Rome was degenerate and corrupt and invaded by Hunns before Germans came and build shit like Vandal fleets better than that of Romans
>Crusaders were ordered by Pope in Italy to go, they got tricked and lead by Venice and were majorly French
>Fighting corrupt,perverted-sex-enjoying Bishops is good, especially wen you help developing a National Feeling language and translate the bible, isn't that right?
>It's degenerate,incest,old German Austrians fault, just like 90% of German history, we were fighting British imperialists who made it a World War because "Muh relatives in Belgium" who allied with Jews and Burgers, turning it into a World War
>Poles refuse to give land, Brits again use this to drink of our tasty blood and get that sweet influence,again doing a World War with Jews and Americans, they spread their Capitalist-Liberal agenda
>Merkel is an American puppet, there never was a peace treaty after WW2 and then we had to puppet states DDR and BDR, no difference,Merkel has heavy Opposition in her own Party and only 12% of German People voting for her, mostly old People and lonely mother with both no perspective

>>135665517
nooooooo my only hope!!!! we need el cid back and franco.

>>135667470
Austrians are not Germans.

>>135640282
No, but it was bad for the world.
It's Spain's duty to develop nukes and fix this.

>>135665629
I'll supose why didn't germans conquer?anything outside of europe
My guess is you're refering to the early colonial period during wich germany was but a collection of separate states infighting in religious wars between protestants and catholics and during the peace times they would fight for money,or against the central authority of the german emperor,they would also have to fight the turks every now and then as well as the french.
As of later they unified after 1871 at what time most of the worthy places had already a flag on them and all that was left was africa that's like having detrout left as the only place to move,usually not worth it but then nationalism and colonialism took a big turn during the 80s and 90s and thus even if against colonialism bismark thought they ought to get some so as to keep the masses happy,they got Cameroon, some Pacific Islands, some chinese territories after the boxer rebellions and some other worthless lands(german es africa and d german west africa)
Thanks to said colonies the germans decided to build a strong fleet to support them thus the British got pissed about it and the germans never consider themselves to be wrong so they got anal to the point they manged to disgust the rest of the world who chose the less anal side thus leaving the germans and their future colonizers (turks)fighting against the rest of the world

>>135665629
There was no German state until 1871, the Holy Roman Empire was extremely disunited, maybe the Hanseatic leauge, the Teutonic Knights or some North German duchies could have colonised something, but the Emperor,Denmark and finances would not have allowed this.
For uniting all of Germany at that time it would have took a charismatic,potent Mastermind with comptetent advisors and good henchmen.
A combination of Napoleon,Casanova,Alexander the Great,Julius Caesar,Bismarck,Justinian the Great,Stalin and Charlemagne.

>>135667896
Yes please, everyone thinks I am some kind of Mexican because I am native.

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>>135640282
yes 90% of them died because of europen exploration if not for the mass die off in the 1500s no settlements could of been established .

>>135667896
spare me brother im one of the last Criollo family's here!!

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>>135659241
>Not living in Chile.

Must suck to be you.

>>135665897
this lol, all these hans and hans larpers don't realize that Germany was willing to risk destroying Europe just to prove their superiority so many time

>>135656975
>Indian qts belong to Indian dicks
Poo belongs in the loo yet you dont seem to understand
Your women are ours Pajeet

>>135640282
Who gives a shit, they were pagan savages anyways.

>>135650399
>raped

>>135668155
>>135668389
Thnx for answers. I wonder what the world would be like if the Hanseatic Leauge settled North America before the British.

>>135667470
Come on hans...we all know you are the Hunns.
But truly,you're federation in the same way the browns are refugees,they just call them that instead of admitting they are being invaded and can't handle the situation,do you think if the romans had the power to choose between letting some foreign barbarians in the borders or telling them to get the fuck out they would have chose so?they let them out as a wedge on the door technique,had they tried to invade the romans would have felt the need to fight,instead they just asked to get to live in the borders and help defend the empire...
By your logic Somalian pirate fleets are better than the European navies.
No disagreements on other except for ww1 were yu managed to make the rest of the world hate you thanks to autistic diplomacy,i think bismark was the only german who wasn't autistic in his generation and could into people same as hitler.
Your diplomacy was basically flawed in tha french was pissed yet you ally with the Austro-Hungarians(weakest) thus pissing the Russians and Italians,that could have easily helped get the British on your side yet you decided to tell them to fuck off on various occasions and piss them off by building a fleet you didn't need how could that go wrong?

>>135669408
Autism would be even more prominent.

>>135668480
No, what I mean is that our mistake was not genociding the natives.

>>135651167

No?
They will conquer NA back to us.

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>>135669455
no bully pls

>>135667853
>They are ancient Gaulic,Carinthian,Roman Habsburg People older than Germany, goy, look it up on Mossa... Uh I mean Google
This doesn't matter for my explenation and it also is a lie.
They have the same blood, Slavic,Celtic,Germanic blood, belonging to the Bavarian National tribe and consisting of Bavarians and Franks.
They were part of the Holy Roman Empire,the German Bund and the Third Reich.
Mozart spoke of his German Fatherland, Kaiser Franz Joseph said he was a German prince and Hitler was a fucking Austrian, wanting to rule Germany and Austria, a part of it.
Austria has the same language,culture,history and Religion as Germany.
Until after WW2 they considered themselves Germans, mjust American propaganda or People financed by Americans told them they were not.
Find any difference between a farmer on the German and the Austrian side of the border, there is None.
No one is German to be exact, Germans are an alliance of various local tribes and countries, Austria,Switzerland,Luxembourg,Liechtenstein and even Belgium and the Netherlands, perhaps Czechia belong to them, they just are not part of the Country, but the German Nation and lingual/cultural area.

>>135641859
holy shit. they didn't even edited the shadows in some of the fake ones

>>135669797
Austrians aren't Germans. Austrians knew that Europe had to be defended from the Turk meanwhile Germans are stabbing them in the back because muh protestantism.

>>135669620
I am mostly native, anon, do you want to kill me even today?

>>135669745
Dont worry, friend, I am like 40% German myself, the rest being native American mostly. I have autism too.

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>>135669694
>They will destroy NA back to us.
fixed

>>135670045
Yes.

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>>135669694
All those indios will come in handy once the European crusades start.

I wonder which side will chop more heads off.

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>>135665897
this is the final redpill

>>135667449
t. controlled opposition

>>135650243
>MAGA hat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yScozvJvj0

There's already a Jew skullcap there.

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>>135669869
that's because those "fake" pictures were made in photoshop by holocaust deniers to have something to disprove

the only places those pictures ever appear is in images telling you they're fake as proof that there's some conspiracy to cover up the fake holocaust

>>135670155
>>135670088
Devuelvan el Oro

>>135670412
What, so you cover the bullet holes of your favelas with it?

>>135640282

It was certainly bad for the ones who died

>>135669955
Don't forget to add in the french,catholics as they were they never thought twice about allying with protestants(after killing them all in their kingdom)or with the turks,formally allying with them.
But those are old beefs, i certainly consider all white europeans as brothers for in one time or another I'm sure my ancestors have fought against and together with any of your ancestors,that's the great thing about europeans,we all share our bloods by either spilling it together,killing each other or breeding with each other.
>>135669455
Amen.

>>135640282
Only the dead ones. The descendants of the survivors have never had it better.

>>135670088
Is it wrong that I think my ancestors barely escaping gangs of raping Spanish soldiers to be kinda hot?

>>135670619
>The French
Enemies of Europe for sure based on allying with the Turk and refusing to show up at the siege of Vienna.

>>135670785
I couldn't care less.

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>>135670412
See pic
>>135670785
Maybe you're ugly?that's nature's defense against rape.

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>>135670050

Violent jungle fuckers plus conqueror blood is the most perfect biomachine ever made to retrieve land ho ha ha!!!

>>135671649
Shut the fuck up you racemixing subhuman.

>>135671121
You won't keep that gold for long with those cheap bullets.

>>135640282

Yes.

>>135669453
I admire and smile due to your huge intelligence.
Yes I know that the foederati were let in unwillingly, still,, the Roman Empire at that time was crumbling anyway, ressources were short, Extension was too large, Perisans were constantly attacking,borders insecure,administration poor, leaders were corrupted,military became ineffective, dynasties caused civil wars.
It was a stupid mistake by the Romans, but the Germanic People did form Europe, they fougt Paganism, made the Pope powerful, repelled the Arabs, finally united the Germanic tribes for a while, repelled the slavs and they mostly accepted the Roman culture and Administration.
The Knowledge and Progress lived on in the Frankish,Byzantine and Islamic empire.
Still, they weren't Brown People following a death cult who would turn everything to mullato Bunga Lunga Sharia lands with Communists as best allies, they were strong warriors and had smart leaders.
The Hunns were Mongols and had many Iranic,Turkic allies and Germanic mercenaries, but they were killed anyway and it was the Goths losing their home, not Romans who got mixed with Markomanns and Langobards.
Yes you are right, but it was a different, were any farmer could become a professional soldier or weopon producent and any based engineer could do pretty good ships out of some Wood, Armies were whole People Groups etc.

No Bismarcks Generation was pretty good, look at Moltke the older and others, the Wilhelminian period was a period in which the old and new met, due to rapid rise in Population and Technology, there was some halfway Generation at the time of WW1.

I know, reading a book of German history about the Bismarck and Wilhelminian period, there were 2 choices:
Having rivaled Austria, with Russia and France, possibly Britain as enemy, or rivaling Austria who will ally with France, the second most incompetent force in that time.
Had the Germans rivaled Austria, they could have easily won on both,Britain and US wouldn't join.

>>135671649
At least you get perfect hair.

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>>135672310
Thanks,i do like germans,afterall i bothered to try and learn german as a young anon,i loved your history and philosophy,i think of you as a great addition to our European history you were late players but you did achieve many highwatermarks for europe.
Even hirer thought allying with the Austro-Hungarians was a mistake as it tied germany's fate with that of a dying empire,and all of her enemies could easily fuck germany by simply offering bits and pieces of that tattered empire (see italy,russia,any balkans nation etc)and he was pretty sure had germany strated the war she would have been in for a nasty surprise of finding herself alone without any help from a dynasty only worried on her survival.
>>135672224
I can't write with any of my other pencils...:'(

>Obvious racebait thread.
>Turns into eurowankery cause we have more important matters to discuss.

Keep your mouth shut and we won't flood your continent.

>>135650455
MODS?

>>135651231
1,3,2,5,7,6,4

>>135669745
Don't worry budd, we've got ya
>>135669408
They would have probably wanted to colonise the Caribbean, probably even all of the Caribbean, because Sugar and Rum were historically huge wins for the Hanse. They would have probably also colonised Areas who can produce Cocoa,Coffee,Tobacco and exotic fruits as they were pretty Market and Consuming orientated and would have maybe even fought with Spain for land.
They would have probably gotten to North America before the French and Dutch, they would have stopped Duutch rising, meaning the Dutch remain a part of Germany and are splitted up into city-states who Support either the Kaiser or the Hanse, it doesn't grow out after 1648, due to this, Swiss probably also refuses to leave the HRE because they are the only ones in that Scenario.
To the Brits they will probably be what the Dutch historically weree to the Portuguese, stealing colonies and becoming richer.
Britain would remain a Little Island Nation,Scotland would remain Independent and due to Hanseatic doing Embargo on England,crippling it and enforcing to Special trade rights and merchant Migration to it, it will become more German in culture.
And because english have no place to migrate in due to poorness after that Embargo and the failed fleet, the Scots will remain highly Gaelic, Highland culture survives and their colonisation efforts will succeed likely.
Spain and France will become middle-class colonial powers.
>>135669955
That is no Point in Austrians not beeing German.
You just continue idiotism.
The Lutherans occured because they were dissatisfyed with the established aristocrats, the Ottomans came in aftzer the Reformation to grabb some land, German Landsers defended it,don't be so stupid to think South Germans were Protestant rebells.
>Defintion of German:
To be German your heritage has to be majorly of certain Celtic,Germanic,Slavic and Baltic tribes,which are organised into 7 Germanic national tribes and 7 new tribes.
Áustrians belong there.

>>135640422
No that was the holocaust when the 6 million jews were killed

>>135670941
Let me guess, the holy Poles are the saviourrs for sure.
Cry me a river you bitch.

>>135675944
Maybe you did not know this is /pol/.

>>135671121
Im not pretty, but I am not ugly either.

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>>135643558
MIOS DIO

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>>135640282

>>135673811
Thanks fellow Spaniard, I hope appreciate our historical corperation, from the HRE and Habsburg times, to the war of Spanish succession, uniting Germany and Support of Franco.
I thank you for creating South America as it is,kicking out Moores and bringing back Iberian Glory.
I hope we will get better goverments and have good Relations in the future, we Need to go from Mallorca pillaging to boosting your economy and sending experts to build up infrastructure in interest of our both Nations ,for which students and workers could live or practice in our Country in Exchange for Special trade deals.
Anyway we should get together as European house in an uncucked world of no Merkel,Macron and Internationalists.
Your culture,philosophy,devoutness,lifestyle,culture,poetry,cuisine,landscape and People are awesome.
Cheers, my friend, Cheers.

>>135677280
Nice one.
But I believe it's mainly the black labor force mixed with some asian fuckery that turned the Brazillians into the monsters they are now.

>went to Cuba
>got drunk on good rum and smoked a cigar alone on a beach at night next to the beautiful ocean. Comfy.
>dreamt about finding the Caribbean pristine and colonizing it for holy Spain. Imagine the beauty of colonial Havana in its prime. Start a sugar plantation and marry a green eyed governors daughter.
>drunken British slags interrupt my thoughts and I realize I'm a leaf and my prime minister is a gay Muslim.

>>135677280
Nije tako,Afrikanski DNA je odgovoran, the Portuguese had that stupid idea to make Blacks to Whites.

>>135654982
Fuck off burger. Our women is the only good thing we have in this shithole.
They are so good that they're actually a distraction from our problems. If our women were like european or american women, we would already have started a civil war and killed all corrupt politicians, but we're too much worried about the safety of our traditional wifes to initiate conflict.

>>135678180
What Kind off slags,those teenage bitches doing drugs on raves, cock-carussel-riders or just idiotic 20-30 year old slags?
Hope the trip still was worth it.

>>135676989
*Dios Mio

>>135677652
wtf I love eternal kraut now

>>135678998
Yeah. That kind. Slaggus Brittania Rex Wasted wandering down the beautiful beach at 2am.

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>>135654092
hawt

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>>135677652

The last bit of historical cooperation my family had was My great-uncle who went to fight the commies with the blue division
(my family were factory owners and the gommies took their living and nearly killed my mother's grandpa)
Spains main problem is corruption,the left feeds on corruption (corrupted as it is itself it will always gain strenght by others corruption,be it the goverment by gaining supporters claiming t be against corruption or be it moral)
In spain we could be rich since we get literally free money due to tourism it could be what oil is to Norwegians yet it is becoming what oil is to Venezuelans, it is seen as mana fro heaven to give to the masses in stupid socialist programs while they get to rob us of our taxes thus we struggle when we could be living in a paradise.
It is awful living surrounded by retards who don't see this,same as in germany you must see the downfall of the work ethics and values that made germany great.
A bit of advise if possible,train,get fit,learn to handle weapons,hard times Andrew ahead and in hard times,hard man thrive,the leftards will die be it by us or be it by the very same muslims if we fail,in either case we can survive ;)

>>135640282
no, they were slaves to the kings that were killing virgins daily. those civilizations were poorly managed. They had already collapsed several times before.

>>135680609
>sucking german dick
poor guy

>>135640282
What is the native girl with red over her eyes called? I see it all the time but I still don't know.

>>135640282
colonization of any shitskin breed by any white race was a god damn favor to them.... sorry we didnt leave you in your mudhuts you fucks

I'm disappointed that no one has posted the picture with the girl crossing her eyes and sticking out her tongue. Sad!

>>135681144
it's like a pure, pre-colonization, brazilian young beauty. These women were pretty cute as far as western standards, much more so than all the other pre-colonization new world females. They were like the prize of the New World.
imho.