Should unhealthy foods be legally restricted to stop retards

>>135638301
Everyone should be accountable for thier won actions.
Nanny states suck
>Souce being An Aussie

>>135638301
own*

the latter, duh

>should anything additional be restricted
No, fuck off and drink bleach.

Freedom is the answer, what is the question?

Saged for dumbass question.

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>>135638301
>Should unhealthy foods be legally restricted to stop retards like myself from eating them or should everyone be accountable for their own bodies and what they stuff in their fat faces?

Kill all subsidies for trash quality ingredients and subsidize veggies instead.

Volenti non fit iniuria

As long as we need mommy and daddy government telling us we can't grow, grind up, and smoke a plant, sure, why not have them telling us which foods we can and can't eat too? Maybe they could tell us how many hours we're allowed to spend on the computer every day too.

>>135638605
its not really freedom when your hardwired natural reactions are being exploited in every possible avenue

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>>135638605
>Freedom is the answer, what is the question?

How about my freedom from having literal poison first subsidized from my tax money and then advertised as a harmless food item to my children?

Doesn't peddling poison under false pretense violate the NAP?

Can I respond with hot lead?

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>everyone be accountable for their own bodies and what they stuff in their fat faces

You answered your own thread fat ass

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>>135639331
>How about my freedom from having literal poison first subsidized from my tax money and then advertised as a harmless food item to my children?
This is a good question

>>135639331
then do your research and buy food you deem good enough for your kids
>inb4 "but my kids won't leave me alone if i don't buy them maccas"
then tell them to go fuck themselves, they're literal children

>>135640596
>then do your research and buy food you deem good enough for your kids

That doesn't solve the subsidy and outright lies problem.

>>135638301
All for freedom of choice, but realistically, why waste resources on things which are purely detrimental in every way?

>>135638301

Unhealthy foods are ultimately pushed by ((them)) in order to pacify and control the population. Even healthy foods are likely contaminated in one way or another from GMOs to pesticides to foods which the perception of health which are pumped full of sugar or soy for no reason. Regulating and controlling this is just another way to erode individual responsibility, it's part of the psychological conditioning of people as children of the state. If you consider yourself "redpilled" whatever the fuck that means to you, then you will seek out healthy food, and keep yourself healthy and in shape. Doing otherwise is letting down yourself, your family, and your entire race.

>>135638301
I think in countries where the healthcare system is nationalised then yes, people should be alot more accountable, or there should be a charge incurred if you use public healthcare once your bodyfat percentage reaches a certain level.

Countries like the US where you have to get insurance? I'm not too sure, do you guys have to pay some kind of excess when you receive medical attention?

>>135638301
either regulate yourself or let beetus take its course. your fat isn't our responsibility

>>135638301
You should be accountable for your own actions, the reason people are insanely obese are because someone is enabling them.

>>135639331
Food isn't poison retard, your heart alone needs about half a gram of sugar per hour to keep beating. It's all about proportioning your intake and burning away your intake the right way in the LONG term.

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>>135643026

>>135638301

How do you even suggest restricting such things? What are you going to do, ban the sale of butter, eggs, and flour so no-one can even make a pie?

>>135638301
Food should be even more unhealthy, I don't want to share this planet with 7 billion fat fucks and a good number of you should fuck off to hell.

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>>135638301
why do I want to fuck that doughnut
looks like a porn artist drew it

>>135643026
>Food isn't poison retard
Some foods are. You get more than enough sugars from real foods

>>135638696
sauce? i'm working on a marketing project concerning a lack of potassium in the american diet. That lovely lady is getting 1200mg of potassium. That is nearly 1/3rd of her RDA

>>135643544
Shad's really starting to mix things up huh?

>>135638301
>Should unhealthy foods be legally restricted

That's very arbitrary and impossible to enforce.

Butter is unhealthy. Milk is healthy. Ban butter. Don't ban milk. People buy milk and make butter in their homes anyway.

Sugar is unhealthy. Ban sugar. Now everything tastes bitter/sour/shitty because people can't properly season their food.

Just ban trans fats and leave it at that.

>>135644504
>Butter is unhealthy. Milk is healthy
Not so much. Like, yea, the latter isn't great, but the former isn't so good.
>Now everything tastes bitter/sour/shitty
Only until people lose the addiction. After cutting out sugar, everything tastes better. Except sugary shit, which tastes vile.

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>>135644504

People used to make food without sugar.

Apple pie was sweetened with figs and raisins, for example.

>>135638301
No, it physically outlines those with little self control. Let them show their weakness to the world

>>135643115
First of all I can eat 10 teaspoons of sugar without vomiting. Second your total daily need of sugar is more than just 10 teaspoons (40 grams/160Kcal/~6% of daily energy consumption/combustion) as what I've said in the earlier post implies your heart consumes about 12 grams of sugar/day already, how are you going to supply your muscles, brains and other organs with the energy they need if almost 1/3 is just for that small strong muscle, your heart?
That chart is wrong on so many levels it's retarded, but I hope you live by it and die of weakness. My body is fit and healthy btw, movement and training is a way bigger factor than your sugar intake in obtaining a healthy body. But by blaming sugar, you have an excuse to not blame yourself for being this piece of lard.

>>135646207
>First of all I can eat 10 teaspoons of sugar without vomiting.
By God your liver must be utterly wrecked.

>>135646207

Sugar isn't your only possible energy source.

>>135643576
>You get more than enough sugars from real foods

That is probably true, still poison is something that contributes more to your death than to your life, and even the worst kinds of food WILL provide you with means of survival or energy storage, you only die if you overflow your energy storage and that is not the fault of a piece of food, however unhealthy it may be in large quantities.

>>135638301
I wanna fuck that donut

>>135646436
I know, but it's certainly not just 6% as the murikike tries to propagate.

>>135638301
Education is the key.

Anyone tried a ketogenic diet?

>>135646573
>still poison is something that contributes more to your death than to your life
Ie. Excess sugar.
>you only die if you overflow your energy storage and that is not the fault of a piece of food
It really is. Try drinking soft drink in large doses.

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>>135638301
sort yourself out. Start eating sardines

>>135646373
I haven't said I do that every day, or every month. A good body CAN handle extremes. Kikes just try to propagate a weaker body model, that is incapable of handling natural fluctuations in food intake, along with a too low body weight. I'm not going to fall for the vougue lifestyle "health", and you should neither.

>>135639331
peddling poison is the antithesis of peddling good health, which is also done plenty.

Telling people what they can or can't eat is way beyond either of these things, and is what OP is asking about.

>>135638301
>Should unhealthy foods be legally restricted to stop retards like myself from eating them or should everyone be accountable for their own bodies and what they stuff in their fat faces?


with socialism and tax payer funded healthcare yes.

if not its everybody for themselfes.

>>135638301
should islam be banned or should the retarded plebs be allowed to make their own choices?

yes idiot, ban bad things that have zero upside and huge downside

>>135646881
try to drink water in large doses retard.

>>135638301
2x, 3x, 4x or 5x VAT. Problem solved.

if you have a BMI above a certain level, or diabetus, or some other heart disease shit, then unhealthy food should be illegal.

that way you fat asses don't ruin food for those of us with self control.

>Huuuur, but BMI is wrong if you have a lot of muscle mass!
Don't worry, fatty. It's real easy to gauge whether or not someone who weighs 300 lbs is all muscle or all fat.

>>135638301
The state's job is protecting us from others not ourselves.

>>135646597
Enjoy my sloppy seconds cunt.

>>135646984
>A good body CAN handle extremes
Sure, but doesn't mean you should punish it for no reason. You CAN handle doses of arsenic, cyanide, mercury, and plutonium. Doesn't mean you need to do it.

>>135647045
I do, barge-arse.

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2.Eat fat and protein including saturated fat.
3. Count calories with myfitnesspal.
4. Enjoy getting blown.
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>>135638301
If you ban donuts, history will view this society as a draconian slave civilization where dumb asses banned donuts

>>135643737
if shad made a donut it would be licorice with blood not something tasty like that

>>135638301

everyone should read 'The Case Against Sugar' by Gary Taubes

and start checking the labels on every food item for added sugar

that is the #1 cause of the obesity epidemic

it is physically addictive and destructive to the body's appetite regulation system of insulin and leptin

>>135647395
>I do, barge-arse.

You don't, retard. The point I'm making is that anything too much is poisonous, try drinking 8 liters of water. Just as poisonous as a few mg of cyanide. It's retarded to regard a fucking goddamn energy source in that way, as we don't regard water that way. The fact that everything too much is poisonous is a bad excuse to have too little of anything (or some things) you need.

>>135648226
>The point I'm making is that anything too much is poisonous
Of course. But water is helpful. Softdrink and processed sugars are not.
>a bad excuse to have too little of anything (or some things) you need.
But again, no one needs soft drink. Or confectionery. They're a net detriment, made purely for hedonism.

>>135647195
You want another french revolution don't you? Taxing food at abnormal rates would surely induce such a thing, not that I would care as I would fully agree to get rid of the retarded french bourgeoisie, or peasants with a bourgeois worldview (like you) for once and for all.

>>135647512
This.

>>135638301
natural selection means if you're too stupid to care for your own survival you die.

you're just like those shitheads who get mad at a game and lowkey demand the game change to fit them instead of changing to beat the game.

marijuana pots:
>illegal
>can lead to insights into self and life
>not necessarily degenerative if smart about use

donuts
>legal
>prevent all intelligent thought during consumption and digestion
>absolutely degenerate

i inhaled three donuts dabs once and had a seizure

>>135638301
Food companies should not be able to predate on people and fuel an obesity epidemic to line their pockets at the expense of the individual and society.

The obesity epidemic must be stamped out

>>135648488
>Softdrink and processed sugars are not.
I beg to differ as they are still combined water and energy sources, and when used responsibly, able to be fit into a diet that is overall healthy.
Again I would rather have people shun at fat people, than the food they eat. You can get fat by eating only lettuce, apples and banana's for example.
As I'm not fat I feel like I'm caring too much already by engaging in this discussion, I'd recommend anyone to just not care, as long as you're not fat yourself why the fuck actually care for unhealthy people that don't even care for themselves?

>healthcare

That is another discussion, in which I take the same standpoint. If you get fat and sick and want to be helped?: pay for it. Can't pay for it? then just die please. I just really don't like being toddled, or taxed because fatfucks are retarded enough to get their life in danger and let society take responsibility for that.

>>135649615
t.cuck

>>135648488
>But again, no one needs soft drink.
tell that to President Trump at 3am when he wants to tweet but needs a Diet Coke to get his edge

>implying aspartame and caffeine are bad
life is all about balance. burn your steaks to a rock, use a lot of ketchup, live long and prosper.

>>135638301
If they just stopped all the ridiculous tax breaks for the sugar industry and corn industry then this problem wouldn't exist. Also if you're not a corporate farmer you don't really get many tax breaks and corporate farmers almost exclusively are involved in corn and sugar.

>>135649636
>I beg to differ as they are still combined water and energy sources, and when used responsibly, able to be fit into a diet that is overall healthy.
Yea, just like water mixed with plutonium.
>Again I would rather have people shun at fat people, than the food they eat.
I would rather have no fat people, or other drains.
>You can get fat by eating only lettuce, apples and banana's for example.
True, but there aren't people doing that filling up hospitals, or being too useless to work.
>as long as you're not fat yourself why the fuck actually care for unhealthy people that don't even care for themselves?
Because some of us are part of a society, rather than being niggers with no foresight.

>>135649833
>burn your steaks to a rock, use a lot of ketchup
Jeez, that even hurt to read.

>>135638301
People should do whatever they want as long as it doesn't affect tax payers.
But if fatties want their healthcare to be covered, then they must pay higher taxes.

>>135638301
Why do you hate the Constitution OP.

>>135650132
>Jeez, that even hurt to read.
that's the Don's taste, man, and it's clearly working for him. I've also been drinking Diet Coke since childhood and honestly don't think it's bad if you have a healthy lifestyle and have your own balance of things that works for you. Compared to a ton of other sodas, particularly regular sodas with HFCS, Diet Coke is based. Trump's decades long butler said that Diet Coke is his main drink besides water. No Coffee, no mention of tea. Water, Diet Coke.

>>135650132
>Yea, just like water mixed with plutonium.
Cmon, you know you can't compare water and energy with water and a radioactive non-digestible piece of metal.

It seems you like to live in a nanny state, which you're free to of course. Heck you're living in one already, It's just I prefer a state that does not get involved with trivial things like my food consumption.

>>135638301
>cartels having black markets on donuts

>>135639331
You would probably respond with a cold knife rather anything that can shoot.

Unless you're talking about ballistic knives

>>135650478
>that's the Don's taste, man,
He really does have bad taste in everything. Nouveau riche pleb.
>honestly don't think it's bad if you have a healthy lifestyle
If you have that shite, then you're not having a healthy lifestyle. It's the same mentality of fat women who do ten lunges, and feel like they've earned a cheat.
>Compared to a ton of other sodas, particularly regular sodas with HFCS, Diet Coke is the same poison, with different packaging
FTFY.

>>135650527
>Cmon, you know you can't compare water and energy with water and a radioactive non-digestible piece of metal.
No, but i can compare it to sugar water, because they're both poison, and absolutely equal in terms of usefulness as energy.
>It seems you like to live in a nanny state,
More that i just hate being surrounded by idiots and useless people.
>It's just I prefer a state that does not get involved with trivial things like my food consumption.
Nigga, you're in the EU. Tell me how raw milk tastes.

>>135650132
>rather than being niggers with no foresight.

Who do you mean?
Those that got so fat, while they knew all they ate was unhealthy food?
Or me, who does not want to compensate said person with no foresight of it's possible influence in said society.

Think twice about what you're saying next please.

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>>135648580

Not all food windmill. Only sugar/fat rich foods (chocolate, chips, softdrinks etc). All these foods that make the plebs diabetic or obese because they have no control over their apetite.

It's not that hard.

Eg product X sold 2,95 with 20% vat will cost 3,45 with 40% vat or 3,95 with 60%. You can use excess revenue to lower taxes on healthy food of fund healthcare for obesity or diabetes.

>You want another french revolution don't you?
Hyperboles make you feel smart but it's just an illusion.

>>135646207
>need
>sugar

where'd you get your biology degree?

>>135638301
Why yes let's create more government regulations. I completely agree!

>>135651150
Right right, let's just allow everyone to become a fat degenerate.

>>135638301
eat whatever you want but don't expect others to pay for your shitty decisions

>>135638301
I'm in favor of legal restrictions only because corporations can lie or otherwise conceal information about what goes in the food. And they don't teach you about preservatives and other additives in school.

The extent to which the restrictions should go is the real question.

>>135650990
>No, but i can compare it to sugar water, because they're both poison, and absolutely equal in terms of usefulness as energy.
There had to be a point where you dismiss everything you say by stating a falsehood TWICE. Sugar can be burned and is therefore useful, you'd only dispute that if you're really really retarded. If you compare sugar with plutonium you're beyond that. Compare that with the point I made: >>135651098
and it's clear you don't feel like taking care to have a healthy discussion, you don't feel like thinking about whether your points are actually true, have fun having you healthy body when your mind is poisoned as hell retard.

>>135651277
That kind of happened because of Government regulation....

I mean in the 70s/80s there was this massive push from the "Health experts" to remove all fats from food and they decided to replace said fats with Sugars. Fast forward to now and we know Fats aren't bad for you and actually help control your appetite.

>>135651131
Try to stop taking in all forms of food that have sugar (for example, fruits), or substances that will be processed in your body to become sugar (bread, rice, other carbohydrates). Please report back every day you survive.

>>135651098
>Or me, who does not want to compensate said person with no foresight of it's possible influence in said society.
Hey, i concur there. But i would rather the society i'm part of wasn't some untermensch hedonistic cesspool where the idiots get to indulge and be indulged.

>>135651573
>Sugar can be burned and is therefore useful,
So eat a banana or an orange. Sugar in confectionery and soft drink is processed poorly, and gives you an artificial high with a very real crash in addition to fucking your liver, kidneys, and bladder.
>have fun having you healthy body when your mind is poisoned as hell retard.
Ironic coming from one who chooses to indulge in poison. You literally sound like an addict.

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>>135651695
The food companies were behind most of those """"experts"""" after a Government report found that foods as a whole were less healthy and put part of the blame on sugar. Companies threatened legal action, one thing led to another, and then the reports were changed to blame fats. Didn't arise out of Government law against fats, just campaigns by private companies and individuals, many sponsored by those same food companies.

Either way the sugar-culture has become too deeply entrenched. Practically everyone is now addicted to sugar, especially in America. Your bread even tastes like British cotton candy, and baby food in the west is now being classified as confectionery. Something needs to be done to stop the sugar addiction epidemic.

Pic related, this is fucking disgusting

>>135652278
>Your bread even tastes like British cotton candy,
God it's rough having sandwiches there. Hell, i used to have a teaspoon of sugar in my tea, but that wasn't necessary thanks to their milk.

>>135638301
Not restricted but maybe a graphic warning label would be good. And a higher tax on the item.
Like what the Aussies do with cigarettes

>>135652055
>Sugar in confectionery and soft drink is processed poorly

I would not say that about a substance that is reduced to be a collection of molecular pure crystals, that is more "pure" than you'll ever see in a fruit. (you seem to have no idea how pure a substance has to be to form crystals at all). So I would like to know what you mean with :"poorly processed". But I think it's better to agree to disagree from here.

>>135653098
>that is more "pure" than you'll ever see in a fruit.
Are you pretending that's a good thing?
>So I would like to know what you mean with :"poorly processed".
It means that your liver doesn't know how to handle that pure sugar. So it stores it as fat, and thus you get fatty liver syndrome, and a beer gut.
You seem to be labouring under the delusion that sugar = energy like petrol works for a car, but that is false. Fats and glucose is burned for energy, and sugar (fructose) is used for fuck all.

Anyone who says fast food should be legal needs to be tortured and then shot for being Jewish.

>>135638301
it clearly needs better regulation
when you have a qp of high fructose corn syrup crammed into every drink and meal theres a problem

but sick and fat people are easier to extort

>>135638301
I'm not your property, Jude. I decide what I eat.

>>135651943
Is this bait? It's 2017. Half the planet is doing keto already.

>>135661831
@yylmao