You often ask what is wrong with modern art. I will explain it

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Art = creation
Modern art = expression

O quam sancta, quam serena,
Quam benigma, quam amoena,
O castitatis lilium.

>based purely on destruction? [...] It's called degeneracy.
You are finding the truth. Keep digging

nu-pol will call stonehenge degenerate just because it's not a fucking greek statue

>>135618215
>mfw there was a canvas at le fart gallery painted entirely red
>mfw the accompanying paragraph of waffle almost won it the (((Archibald Prize)))

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>>135618716
This is why I made this thread.
Rejecting art because "it's not a greek statue" is pleb tier. Of course people can sense thats something is wrong with modern art, but they can't really tell what it is.
Art is an act of creation, with its root in individual vision. To better translate that vision to a objective, material form, you have to possess certain skills. Both Statue of David and Cro Magnon paintings are art. Even a kids drawing of a flower is an art, although the kid doesn't have skills so it's not considered a good art.
But in the XX century there was a revoultion in understanding art. There was a guy named Joseph Beuys who had tremendous impact on academic life. He said things like
>Even the act of peeling a potato can be an artistic act if it is consciously done.
and
>Art is the only power to free humankind from all repression.
Of course you know what repression means for (((them)))

F*** you gaijin. Yoko Ono is a genius.

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>>135619342
i wouldnt call someone who influences society an artist necessarily, of course you can call yourself an artist and make that your art, but you can also do that with anything. there is just such a wide variety of modern art, i assume you are specifically talking about 'abstract' art. take rothko for instance, of course that would be an 'easy' thing to do, but he was the first. and he did them on huge canvases. it's easy to talk shit on rothko because you can only see small pictures through a screen. i have seen one in person and it was pretty impressive. there is no way to capture the color and imposing presence through a camera

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bumping with more richard long.. saw him at an exhibition the rothschilds were having and decided i should check him out he's pretty cool. this was one of his pieces as a student where he paced a line into the ground

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>>135618215
>everything not only is questioned but HAS TO be questioned
not everything

>>135618215
But that's wrong though.

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>>135619342
He's right you know, Rothko's paintings isn't just one coat of paint on a canvas, it is innumerable layers, and tones, which all come through, with flat colors he is able to create depth just by layering them. It's actually quite impressive, though I am not fond of his works.
Beuys was also a crazy person be isn't wrong. Also there is tons of modern art that rejects what you stated Modern art to be, as well as some that is purely expressions of technical skill, A la photorealism. The problem is once you try and pigeon hole all twentieth century art as being the same your argument falls apart.

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>>135618215
But I like Pollock. Am I degenerate?

>>135622240
Nah man just enjoy the art you enjoy, as food is fuel for the body art is fuel for the soul. Only degenerates would seek to destroy something created by human hands, the fact Pollock's still exist is a testament to People's ability to preserve and care for their culture.

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why are brits dominating the modern sculpture world?

>>135622742
because it's satirical "art"

>>135622152
I'm not telling that all XX century art is shit, this is not the case. I'm just pointing the source of degeneracy in art, which is putting intellectual experiments and revolutionary thought before skills, vision, aesthetics and harmony.

>>135618375
>ajokegonetoofar.jpg

>>135618395
Would like to shake your vector.

The rule of thumb is it's not art if a 4 year old could do it

>>135629657
Exactly.
And if you need to read a thesis on a wall to 'get it', then it's a con.
t. The Painted Word, by Tom Wolfe.

>>135618215
Modern Art is a CIA money laundering psyop.

There is some value in an abstraction, speaking from an art as language standpoint. Mood and intention can sometimes be derived from solid composition of shapes and values or colors.

Many of the old cartooning practices use graphic shapes to compose, then in the piece proper, refine the graphic into forms. A combination of the graphic and rendered yields beautiful results if done correctly.

Now, that being said, some modern art doesn't have a point really. It's just mental masturbation surrounding the artist's name or the artist themselves is trapped in their own preconceptions and refuses to make an attempt to communicate. Modern art is also used to launder money politically.

Fun stuff.

Modern Art is CIA's Propaganda

>>135618215
Seriously, this is one of the best threads today. It perfectly describes very on point everything wrong with 'modern' art.

>>135629995
what is this shit? Even I can draw better.

>>135618395
Shitty fucking anime.

>the average Japanese anime drawer out of tens of thousands of japanese anime drawers is superior to literally any "modern art".

explain this atheists

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>>135618215
We have fallen so very, very far.

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>>135631430
>pic related

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>>135631048
some people just know that the fucked up people that are in the middle class and the rich won't publish art from the lower class so they draw the art fucked up on purpose

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terrible

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>>135631455
>literally 90% of my anime pictures are more aesthetically pleasing than literally any "modern art".

>>135618215

Perhaps with enough time and effort, a new school of art could be memed into existence? Traditional and Reconstructivist as opposed to (Post-)Modern and Deconstructivist?

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>>135631643
art teacher here...the person that sketched those has no idea what they are doing. they just followed the basic instructions on how to draw but don't understand or apply them the right way.

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>>135631707
everyone has a right to decide what they like even people that are trying to make the world a better place I mean really what would Jesus say

>>135632496
Love constructive criticism thanks but then again

>>135633262
wait, you take yourself seriously?

let me guess, you are 16 years old and started drawing like a month ago.

anyone with a spark of self awareness wouldn't dare post these online.

>>13563326
If you want actual critisiem you should go to >>>/ic/

It looks good enough for them not to boo you off the thread instead of giving feedback. If that makes sense

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>>135633590
so I can take it then that your not a trump supporter

>>135618215
Curious to know how you came to this conclusion. It's an interesting analysis.

LSD?

>>135634527
What has supporting certain political stances got to do with not appreciating bad art?

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>>135631874
I'm almost in the same boat as you.

>>135631450
This facial hair drag is sickening, and debases both male and female beauty simultaneously.

Art is subjective but there are some really awesome modern art. Just shortly - as from movies - Mullholand Dr and Inland Empire, games - Pathologic, Coma, paintings of Hiroshi Nagai and Hopper, music - Merzbow, Ulver, Whitehouse, Burzum, Boris, Aphex Twin, Autechre, Mouse on the Mars(and at all IDM formed in 90's, industrial and avant-garde metal at 70's). You're just commie with zero taste.

>>135634793
round about way of saying there is a disconnect between what you think is good and the reality of the matter one is not necessarily connected to the other

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>>135635057
>Art is subjective
Sure, but the forms that good artists tap into are objective.

You have shit taste anon