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so is /MGTOW/ a legitimate backlash to three generations of feminism,

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so is /MGTOW/ a legitimate backlash to three generations of feminism, or is it a bag of jewish tricks?
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>>135613642
MGTOW is great.
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Tbh its just high quality autism
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>>135613642
mgtow femboy here, anyone interested in loosening me up?
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It all depends on what you decide to do with the knowledge of MGTOW. Are you going to chug down soylent while purchasing masturbation machines and watching pornography, or are you going to live a virtuous ascetic life?
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>>135613780
>that id
>mfw
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>>135613642
Backlash but it's not as widespread a movement as you might think.

With female hypergamy a lot of these MGTOW types aren't actually in a position to be rejecting women, they're simply not able to get women. MGTOW is essentially fueled by women not fucking betas and the betas wanting their revenge once those women become washed up whores in their 30s and 40s.
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Both.

Go MGTOW until you're at a financial/life balance point you can go steady and the crazy leaks out of (most) women
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A bag of jewish tricks, of course.
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>>135613642
It's part of a very predictable backlash against women, the feminist movement, and a complete lack of incentives for male participation in society.

It's not the first time in history that this has happened, either.

More important that conscious-MGTOWs are the unconscious ones though. Those that don't identify with the movement (they're probably unaware of its existence). They'll dabble in dating women, but they have a fear of commitment, and very little professional drive.

Read any blog that intersects between sociopolitics and lifestyle, directed at career women in their late 20s (There's a large number of them), and you'll see women bemoaning the latter type of man. Expect to see more bitching, and more men going down routes like that.
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>>135613642
It's a self fulfilling prophecy, just like feminism, which are always childish and immature
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>>135613642
It's a jewish trick, instead of telling men to fight back they are telling men to just give up and Since Europe is being flooded with young Muslim men. White Men going their own way is a good thing thing for us muslims.
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>>135614522

>They'll dabble in dating women, but they have a fear of commitment, and very little professional drive.

you just described me and a bunch of my friends to a T. i'm glad we're not alone. all we know is that work sucks and games are fun.
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>>135613642

Its the whores OP, lets put it simply

>work fucking hard to get into a higher earning field
>buy the stupid house, car and all the other beta provider shit to try and attract a "good woman"
>start hunting for that women, find total and complete fucking degeneracy everywhere, learn women are pathological liars and fucking whores, dick counts averaging 20-50 by 20 years of age

It gets worse when you research reproductive material, ie TRP, MGTOW, Biffaults Law, etc. Women are psychopaths with no moral or ethical fiber, even worse they're fucking parasites with men they think are beta, typically the guys they'll "settle" for after they're used up.

Jews shaped the environment, women took full fucking advantage of it.

>thats why when Lauren advertises for the white race, without herself having a family you know its cosmic fucking bullshit

Women didn't need the Jews to be total whores, its just natural to them

>its worse if you look into the real histories, all societies were Matriarchs
>Sparta the last Greek state to arise and Egypt
>Matriarchal societies are communist, the men have no wealth or freedom from the Matriarch, and they're highly disposable
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>>135614700
Men opting out of society (Both relationships and careers) causes social and economic problems. That's probably the most fertile ground for political radicalism, which is the last thing Muslims want in Europe.
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>>135613642
It's the only thing that makes sense today, unless you're a literal masochist.
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>>135614935
You underestimate us. white men are checking out of society and we are gonna fill the void....or alteast fill the womb of white women. Jihad is in our nature we are here to conquer.
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>>135614932
are the whores really expecting a generation of men ready to settle for them, with educations and jobs? because that is probably one of the more delusional female delusions.
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>>135613642
bag of jewish tricks.

Find a good woman, have lots of huwhite kids, serve your people, and die a happy old man next to a wife who loves you.
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>>135615105
a race of half breeds never conquered shit.
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>>135615105
We had 10% of the Iberian Peninsula before we threw you fucks out. We endured 500 years of Islamic aggression before the First Crusade, even.

If you're expecting to cement Eurabia in the coming decades, you're a historical illiterate.
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>>135614444
HOLY SHIT
HOLY SHIT
HOLY SHIT
HOLY SHIT

QUADS OF TRUTH
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>>135614700
>>135615105
You can keep our women. Women are cancer and artificial wombs are the cure.
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>>135614254
No - MGTOWs are mostly older men warning young ones of the dangers of marriage.

The "Its ugly beta perma-virgins" is merely the echo in this pol echo chamber.

Anyone whos has experience with modern women and has any self respect will go MGTOW or get cucked to fuck while convincing themselves that they are "being a real man".

They'll learn the hard way, but they will learn - its guaranteed.
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Legitimate response.
Do not accept used goods.
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>>135614444
>le mgtow is jewish tricks
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>>135615159
It's happening right in front of you. You cant deny it. Britain France Sweden Germany you name it we are slowly taking over and the best thing is your tax dollars are funding it.

>>135615328
we are not talking about the past. and their is not gonna be new crusade , you know

>>135615386
we just want to impregnate them, we still want white men to pay for the kids through taxes.
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>>135615436
oh god i love this image. am in my underwear, eating pizza, and browsing pol rightr now
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>>135613642
I wouldn't call ten betas in a basement pretending like they didn't want pussy as legitimate backlash.
Still not as pathetic as beta orbiters tho.
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>>135615135
>>135614700
>>135614444
>>135613642

The jewish trick happened when (((TV media))) gave our women complete bitches as role models to emulate..........and then convince men that they "are not real men" if they dont (basically) adopt one of these high maintenance nightmares.
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>>135613642
>so is /MGTOW/ a legitimate backlash to three generations of feminism, or is it a bag of jewish tricks?
Yes, both
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>>135613642
it's a bunch of betas angry that women they think are hot won't have sex with them for no reason other than being men so they throw a hissy fit and scream about mgtow
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>>135615501
Enjoy it while it lasts. The coming reckoning, not Allah, will see you on your knees.
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>>135615501
yeah but what after that? you know that your half mudskin progeny will only resent you for not being white yourself?
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>>135615798
I'm MGTOW and have been asked out by grills. Not actually been responded that she wanted to go out with me, but actually actively seeked by them.
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>>135613642
If you need to ask if defending your gender is a trick from a people who are the only ones to rely on their females to determine whether or not they belong to their religion, then you're too far gone
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MGTOW is for inexperienced guys jaded over their first serious break up or white knighting retards who keep getting burned by the same sluts, just use common sense cucking yourself into ending your blood line through videogames and masterbation I mean seriously do you really need to ask if that's kikery or not? The answer is yes...
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>>135615501
>>135615105
>>135614700

Heres the jewish tricks.

LARPing as "muslims", talking about "we're gonna invade your womens wombs" to scam you into financially supporting one of their brainwashed creations.

(((They))) are worried that (((they))) have pushed the feminist "high maintainance woman" meme too far and thought men would become pussyfied slaves to nagging bitches and never thought men would just go their own way.

Every viewpoint you regularly hear being pushed on pol is a psyop. The opposite is the truth.
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>>135615988
Can I have any threads where there's no kikes?
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>>135613780
M-me Anon
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>>135615988
It's not our fault that all women, including your mum, ride the dick caroussel when they are young and then decide to settle down when they've had inside every dick imaginable.
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MGTOW is just men being practical and honest about female nature.

In a world where society actively tries to ruin men's lives for the benefit of women, it just doesn't make any sense for them to get married.

It's also why modern society is horribly dysgenic. Not only do we import masses of low IQ peoples, but we've designed society in such a way that almost no intelligent man will bother forming a family.

The response from tradcucks is just to shame men in hopes that they will ignore these obvious drawbacks and accept a terrible deal.

Traditionalists are the worst of all people, because they accept there is a problem, but they refuse to even attempt to find a solution.

I genuinely fear that our species won't survive.
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In EVERY MGTOW thread you get the same discourse:

1) Inexperienced but horny kiddos think every guy just want to fuck anything that moves and the entirety of social interaction revolves around fucking and MGTOWs are fat autistic virgin neckbeards who can't get laid.

2) Actual MGTOWs who are experienced grown men who are warning about the dangers of women + the state vs you, and how you can be easily taken for all you've got.

3) The "Yes, thats right goy - dont reproduce" jew shills - yes JEW SHILLS. The thing (((they))) want you to do is YES reproduce children to a raving tinder psycho / bar slut who will NEVER grow up and you will be raising her as well as your kids until she bails on you and takes half your shit after dragging you through divorce court.

The jew agenda is NOT to stop whites reproducing, its to produce a WEAKER generation with poor parents so the state can become the new parents. No reproduction means no goy-cows for milking. Why the fuck would (((they))) not want a new generation of tax-slaves? (((They))) own the banking system AND the law courts / judicial process.

(((The agenda))) is all about making money from broken individuals from broken families - NOT stopping reproducing.

MGTOW is redpilled because its men refusing to get fucked over by the jew system - and (((they))) are worried. (((They))) are worried that (((they))) have pushed the feminist "high maintainance woman" meme too far and thought men would become pussyfied slaves to nagging bitches and never thought men would just go their own way.
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I think it does well in identifying the problem (women are turbo-cunts these days) but the solution is stupid in the long-run, unless you don't care about the preservation of your race.
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>>135614700
Men have nothing to fight for. They don't have families or responsibilities. Their standard career paths are being squeezed out by outsourcing and automation. They have no purpose
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>>135615501
Muslims will never accomplish political victory because, in the end, they are inbred retards that would't last a week without the full force of the state protecting them.
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>>135615988
MGTOWs are mostly ex-married men warning young ones of the dangers of marriage.

Stop blindly repeating memes and figure out the truth for yourself.
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>>135613642
> be a disgusting, zit-ridden sadcase
> "oh yeah, it's my ideology that women would only talk to me if I paid them money!"
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I was married, crazy ex wife but I didn't marry a bitch so she let me go on my merry fucking way once we broke it off. I still think MGTOW is for fags
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>>135616078
>The jew agenda is NOT to stop whites reproducing, its to produce a WEAKER generation with poor parents

looks like they satisfied that part of their agenda
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>>135616152
Fight back against the Jewish assholes and feminism who are targeting and destroying you. You say you have nothing to fight for and you are right the west is not worth fighting for so why dont you create something new and magnificent like what the Germans tried when they had balls, create your own new fourth reich

>>135616214
arent you adorable. if we can manipulate the state into protecting us then we re not really that stupid are we now ?
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>>135616078
>Inexperienced but horny kiddos think every guy just want to fuck anything

The problem is that promiscuous women don't have a concept of fidelity and will use the law to fuck you over, so there's no use in trying to find a decent girl because they don't know decency at a moment where they decide they want to have a family.
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>>135615128
They're not wrong to think it, marriage is still occurring in mass for guys earning more then women at the same post world war rates. Guys will wife up the sluts if they have the money to do so.

>its fucking disgusting how desperate men are for pussy
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>>135616452
>create your own new fourth reich
People like you are so fucking retarded. You act like the Germans created a Reich out of nothing. As if they didn't build upon a foundation laid by hundreds of years of Prussian military tradition, which was fucking REMOVED by the allies in the post-war period.
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>>135616452
>manipulated

what are you going to tell us next, that you're behind zionism as well?

you fucking retards were welcomed into your host countries with open arms. the way you behaved in your host countries have tarnished your reputations world wide. i didnt hate muslims before but i sure as fuck do now.
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But why not adopt?
Why you guys gotta make shig harder for generation z to unfuck your shit for you?
You can literally at least adopt, teach your children raise them well and let them lead the sheeple children around them.
Maybe reignite that flame in their hearts.
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>>135613642
Mgtow is just bad, this is not a reaction that supposed to happen after monogamous structure is destroyed. Without it man is supposed to kill other man ant seize his bitches, this is how nature created us. You are supposed to chimp out. Like muslims do for example, polygamy is main reason why their societies are so unstable, only you'll be better at is than muslims because you're white and may actually achieve something. Well, let's wait some more, i'm sure all these faggots understand that there are better ways to break system you dissatisfied with than simply not contributing in it.
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>>135616643
Germany and fourth Reich was an example dumb fuck retard POS. dont like the way things are then create something new. That was the point you fucktard.

>>135616708
>welcomed into your host countries with open arms
Bullshit. you didnt welcome us, you fucktards dont have a choice.
PS it's not our fault you are too retarded to not see that this is an invasion and replacement.
We dont like you we think you and your culture is the most degenerate thing in this planet that's why we dont assimilate and we are here just for the free money and stupid easy white women.
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>>135617113
Theres no point in getting arrested or burning down the weave store, we aren't black.
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>>135617161
As Hitler himself said, a new state doesn't simply fall from the sky. It must grow organically from the people themselves. One man can't simply come along and create a new state from nothing. That's not what Hitler did.
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>>135614254
>t. tradcuck beta bux provider
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>>135613642

OP, whenever you see anything like this and want to know if it's bullshit ask yourself this question

>What would my ancestors do?

MGTOW is a load of horseshit, the crux of it is this "I'm not winning this game, so I won't play"

Think back to when you were young, remember that kid that always did that? had a tantrum when he wasn't winning? That's these assholes, when things got tough, they quit.

Do you want to be that? A spoiled brat throwing his toys out of the pram when he didn't get his way, huddled in a corner with some faggot "no girls allowed club" support group or do you want to be a man, like the men that came before you?
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>>135617023
>single man applying to adopt a child
That's gonna go super well
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>>135617461
You sound like a defeatist cuck. making excuses. history is filled with one man taking charge and reshaping history.

thats good for us Muslims i guess, it'll make the take over Denmark alot easy for us.
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>>135617733
>take over Denmark
lmao good luck with that
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>>135617658
The fedoras are the beta "white knights" giving their money and energy to these psychos for a bit of self esteem because they can't generate any themselves.
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>>135616008
This
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>>135617658
The "m'lady" thing is obviously men who AREN'T going their own way, right?
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>>135615359
>>135615436
>>135615702
The one time I namefag as Wayne Lambright to make an ironic shitpost, and quad fours happen. Fuck me.
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MGTOW and feminism are two sides of the same coin.

Both are meant to create infighting between the sexes, and both are meant to lower birth rates and destroy the institution of marriage. Both feminists and their counterpart are concerned with ideas of (((Marxist))) egalitarianism which are impossible to achieve. Life has always been about taking risks and making investments, and some parts of society being unfair, but people still persevered.

Independence has long been something a lot of men value, making a movement out of it goes against the whole point since it reeks of attention-seeking, which isn't independence or "going your own way". You're not making any profound statement, you're just refusing to get into a long-term relationship, which takes no effort at all and anyone can do it.

MGTOW don't even try to fix the marriage laws or any legitimate problem they're complaining about, they just say "fuck women and children altogether, shit's fucked", which isn't productive, and is usually just men who can't get laid looking for something to vent and rationalize their frustrations. They spend more time attacking white women and spreading moralization than addressing anything serious.

Some of it taps into the reaction to feminism, no-fault divorce, and all these other things have fucked up gender roles and relations, but really it's just another Jewish trick to break up the white nuclear family unit and pit men against their women, which is why it gets spammed here and on (((Rebbit))) so much.
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>>135617731
That's the problem, feminist dogma has the authorities convinced that all men are evil rapists.
>>135617776
remind me what happened when the nazis invaded
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>>135617733
The day you muslims speak up is the day we will cut your gibs and send your goat fucking family cartels back to the Stone Age. In other words, don't bite the hand that feeds you. Disgusting Muhammad cuck.
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>>135613642
jewish tricks
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once you get past the red pill hate and bitterness side of things you just slide into a state where you just don't care MGTOW is a state of mind that comes with time, you can't just suddenly be MGTOW thats just a name slapped on it anyway.

I really dont care anymore, my parents are miserable, most of my freinds with partners seem miserable, everyone that is with someone is miserable so whats so different about me, iam happy with my material possession and more importantly control of my own time which is a finite resource.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHWNJ4A4egU
You just take them out.
Also how do you guys feel about marrying a femboy? (Ironically of course and mostly just as friends).
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>>135617658
>Projecting faggot can't use memes right

>Hey potatonigger, the fedora is for whiteknight beta bux providers such as yourself. Now go deposit 3/4 of your NEET buxs to RM and LS like a good little orbiter.
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>>135619383
>once you get past the red pill hate and bitterness side of things you just slide into a state where you just don't care

No, once you get past the hate and bitterness, you take that newly-acquired knowledge and use it to enhance your life and give you more purpose, fulfillment and understanding.

Once you understand how the world works, it's that much easier to have direction.

MGTOW just stays at the stage of bitterness, never progress beyond that, and just end up wallowing in depression and self-pity for the rest of their life.
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>>135615436

>who cares if the white race dies out as long as I have muh video games

kys
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The white race dying out or thriving is completely to do with government policy and has nothing to do with men not finding raving psychos appealing candidates for procreation. Our governments are literally pushing for WW3 right now, but apparently, men keeping to themselves will "destroy the white race".

In fact its government policy that creates thes high maintenance psychos in the first place. In Britain there were laws that prevented "corruption of the youth" (or something similar - I think John Lennon was accused of this back in the 60s) and those laws haven't been enforced for decades, hence a generation of priviliged princess psychos
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Check out this woman going from pretty "based" to full raving chimp-out psycho in a moment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjQwLOA-hBs
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>>135616041
Come Canada :3
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>>135615105
why havent you done it yet you pussy, you're too busy posting BBC and cuck threads you dont even have the balls to fuck a white women
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>>135613642
its a cesspit. while marriage is a failing institution, don't fall for this ((movement)))
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>>135620647

Yes, telling men not to have white children while they get replaced by niggers, spics, and Muslims who breed like rabbits, and also promoting inaction instead of trying to change those government policies you're talking about (and also having no children who will be able to deal with those government policies), is in fact part of an attempt to destroy the white race.

And MGTOW aren't keeping to themselves at all, they proselytize and try to spread this mentality to every man, they get in the way of everyone and can't shut the fuck up.

It used to be that men who didn't get married before they were like 25 were shamed, now these MGTOW fucks get upset (not because people are shamed for not marrying, that barely even happens anymore in the West) but just when you tell them to shut the fuck up and stop spending all their time trying to get people not to have children (your main biological purpose in life).
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>>135615105
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>>135621700
>they get replaced by niggers, spics, and Muslims who breed like rabbits
They "breed like rabbits" because there is no government policy to have your woman kidnap your kids or take your kids into social care. The emphasis in non-western countries is to have kids LOTS of kids to maintain a good income for your whole family. Like I said - Its government policy in the west that is fucking it up for men and their natural response since they can't change government policy is to do their own thing.

>MGTOW aren't keeping to themselves at all
Its called "going your own way". I don't hear men advocating it outside of pol. In fact most men who are MGTOW haven't heard the phrase MGTOW and (like me) have gone their own way without even realising there are others who have done the same.

>MGTOW fucks get upset
I dont think they are getting upset - they are just warning the younger ones of the dangers of marriage

>spending all their time trying to get people not to have children (your main biological purpose in life
I agree that having children should be a nice experience and one that everyone should strive for, but the fact is - women are crazy and the state sides with them EVERTIME with no questions. Also you are legally required to send them to (((school))) for indoctrination - NOT EDUCATION.

I would love to be a single parent if I could home school and could be sure the state wouldn't take my kids.
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>>135616078
Fucking This!
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>>135614047
what's the difference again?
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>>135620153
See >>135615386
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>>135616062
Our species will survive, but it has to emerge out of ashes for it to survive
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>>135622458
>ashes
you mean jews right?
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>>135616237
Truth here..

This describes me. Married once, fucked over in (((court))). Never again! I tell young guys, even my own son. Is the fucking you're getting with the fucking you're going to get? I've actually been MGTOW for a very long time, but never knew there was an actual movement with a name. MGTOW, because you should respect yourself.
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>>135613642
It's both, it has the potential for men to actually improve themselves, unfortunately a good number of them are fucking retarded. They're bitter after a recent relationship ending or not being able to have a relationship and focus on the negatives of other people rather then self improvement.
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>>135614254
>revenge once those women become washed up whores in their 30s and 40s
Whats wrong with this one?
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>so
>"im a cult member or grammatically retarded"

hidden
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>>135613642
>>135618444

MGTOW was created as a counter-reaction to the decades of toxic feminism, liberal progressive socialists/communists, social justice warriors, gynocentric big government and anti-male policies.

MGTOW is a great way to focus more on your own life, be proud of being a man, improve masculinity, pro small government (classical liberal/libertarian), avoid traps of marriage and or other mistakes men make and go your own way.
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>>135613780
hand over that boipucci
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>>135616321
>I still think MGTOW is for fags
Or maybe deep down you really are one and have to prove you're not by calling MGTOW's fags. Listen faggot. I fuck more bitches than you do. I just don't marry them!
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>>135622308
>The emphasis in non-western countries is to have kids LOTS of kids to maintain a good income for your whole family.

Sometimes it's just to due to religious customs or the fact that they're too retarded to stop themselves from randomly fucking every woman they see and they have no contraception. You obviously don't understand how it works in Africa. MGTOW are sheltered and have no perspective, so par for the course.

>Its government policy in the west that is fucking it up for men and their natural response since they can't change government policy is to do their own thing.
Some people have always "done their own thing" throughout history. They didn't need to make a pathetic "movement" out of it.

>Its called "going your own way".
Ironic since they don't do that at all, you're proof of that.

>I don't hear men advocating it outside of pol.
Obviously they're too autistic to have much of a presence in the real world, but they also spam Youtube, Rebbit, etc.

>In fact most men who are MGTOW haven't heard the phrase MGTOW
No they're not. Just because you don't want to get married, that doesn't make you "MGTOW". You just need some retarded label to feel like you belong to something.

>I dont think they are getting upset
They're bigger and angry against women, and against anyone who doesn't go along with their shit.

>women are crazy and the state sides with them EVERTIME with no questions.
Overstatement, you can criticize the legal system, alimony, etc. without overdoing it.

>Also you are legally required to send them to (((school))) for indoctrination
You can send them to the right schools (private schools too), or even homeschool them. That's what being a good parent is about.
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>>135613642

>>>/r9k/
>the old version, now the board is lost

/pol/ has a bit of it too. Im a wizard as well but Im too old for all this tantrum.
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>>135613642
What backlash? Women will just fuck other men and have kids with other men, even if it means being poligamous. You're changing absolutely nothing. Women naturally ignore about the half of the male population, that's in their nature, that's why only 40% of men throughout human history reproduced.
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>>135623456

Also forgot to mention, the birth rates (especially Muslim) are also a problem in Western countries, not just where they come from.
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>>135617658
>I'm not winning this game, so I won't play
No retard it's nothing like that at all.. I'm not playing the game because it can't be won. The jews have taken over the courts and entire legal system in case you haven't noticed. And feminism is a jew thing. Why would you play a game where you are guaranteed to be the loser unless you are a born cuck?
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>>135618444
>MGTOW and feminism are two sides of the same coin.
WRONG! It's tottaly the opposite. Feminism is about forcing people (men) to think and act a certain way. MGTOW is exactly as the name implies.. Going our own way. In other words, leave me the fuck alone and I won't bother you either. You people have got this thing all backwards.
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>>135623456
Most MGTOWs have never heard of MGTOW. Its a fact. Its not a "movement" if no-ones heard of it and:
> they're too autistic to have much of a presence in the real world
Its not a label and MGTOWs dont feel they belong to anything. They naturally progress to it and then find out others are feeling the same. Its not a single philosophy or opinion either - I don't necessarily agree with other MGTOWs on their views and my views are entirely organic. I don't even identify as MGTOW - I just spend my time developing my business and improving myself.

Every school teaches the same (((curriculum))). Its the curriculum thats the problem.

The legal system has abandoned common law and anyone who feels victimised is now a victim. And men are portrayed as the criminal in all (((TV media))), soap operas, reality TV shows, all the shit women watch etc etc. So the law courts will always side with the woman and step in as her new surrogate parent. The state WANTS to be in this position. It needs to be, in fact to keep being perceived as relevant in todays society. The state creates problems so the state can come to the rescue and keep its job.

You will learn the hard way - but you will learn one day.
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>>135624351
>Feminism is about forcing people (men) to think and act a certain way. MGTOW is exactly as the name implies.. Going our own way. In other words, leave me the fuck alone and I won't bother you either.

>anti-feminism is about forcing people (women) to think and act a certain way. Feminism is exactly as the name implies. Female empowerement! In other words, leave me the fuck alone, I'm a strong independent woman who don't need to man! You people have got this thing all backwards.

I don't think you redditors realize how obnoxious and retarded you sound.

Feminism is about "liberating" women and "equality" for women. MGTOW is about "liberating" men and "equality" for men.

Feminism says marriage is a patriarchal institution created by men to disempower and constrain women, being controlled by men and preventing them from being "sexually liberated". MGTOW says marriage is an institution oppressing men and disempowering and constraining women, being controlled by women and preventing them from being free and independent. MGTOW are closer to the truth with the current setup but they have the same solution.

Feminism says women shouldn't need to have children and instead they should have sex with whoever they want, they should focus on having careers and being "liberated". MGTOW says men shouldn't have children and instead they should have sex with whoever they want, they should focus on having careers and hobbies and being "liberated".

The main difference is that feminists have a lot of institutional power and destroyed society. MGTOW don't even try to change anything or get institutional power, they just give up and let society get destroyed (along with their bloodline, race, culture, etc.). Just like Libertarianism is controlled opposition to Marxism, MGTOW is controlled opposition to Feminism. No surprise that there's a lot of crossover between MGTOW and lolbertarians/ancaps, as well as between Marxists and Feminists.
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>>135623456
Holy shit this level of assmad
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>>135625039
>MGTOW says marriage is an institution oppressing men and disempowering and constraining women

disempowering and constraining men*
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>>135613642
legitimate backlash
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>>135625138

Yeah - Its like.......................only a woman could be this angry

>>135625216
>>135625039
>>135623748
>>135623456
>>135621700
>>135620047
>>135618444

>Woman detected
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>>135619393
Get out.
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There's no reasonning with MGTOW autists. They're almost all:

A: incels who are pretending its their choice not to "deal" with women
B: guys who admittedly know they can't keep a woman from leaving them
C: Juden

And they try to bring everyone else down with them, because misery loves company.
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>>135625039
>MGTOW don't even try to change anything or get institutional power
Yep that's right. I said it before.. All we want is to be left the fuck alone so we can go fishing and play golf. You can fuck right off with the rest of your pop psychology bullshit. I agree with some of what you said but mostly it was just blah blah bullshit assumptions. You don't know shit about MGTOW or how any of us came to it. Honestly you sound like an angry cunt. Amirite?
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I dont even associate MGTOW with women, really. Its men going their own way generally. Its like a libertarian thing. I dont want ANYONE fucking with my life in ways I don't agree with (obviously). It stands to reason that anyone who is ok with this kind of treatment is the beta cuck type.
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>>135626270
> misery loves company
Its quite the opposite considering the name is, "GO THEIR OWN WAY".

MGTOWs don't like company - obviously, but like you say there's no reasoning with autists.
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>>135626270
>A: incels who are pretending its their choice not to "deal" with women
We deal with women all the time. We just don't get into committed relationships with them.

>B: guys who admittedly know they can't keep a woman from leaving them
Neither can you jackass! Oh and your mother doesn't count.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPfx9Q9NWO0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swGbcwUyCKQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCra9unHEOE
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3UEQfLoF7c4/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLB8poaBqkora02940Km_83PsbxwgQ

>C: Juden
jewish women being what they are, I'm sure there are plenty of those.
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>>135626270

Basically this.

I know plenty of successful men who slay women.

There is a 0% chance they're filling their time browsing fucking MGTOW or Red Pill sites. They muddle along effortlessly being successful without a moment's thought to it. Like you'd basically expect.
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>>135626559
>MGTOWs don't like company
And there's something wrong with that? It's my choice so you can just go fuck off with that shit. It's not my problem if you constantly need attention and feel lonely and unwanted without it. I don't need that, I am my own person and I like myself enough to hang out with just me 24/7 if need be. Maybe the problem is you really just don't like yourself all that much.
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>>135627476
I'm agreeing with you.
Look at all my posts.
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>>135627187
>I know plenty of successful men who slay women.
>There is a 0% chance they're filling their time browsing fucking Red Pill sites

Unlike you ey?
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>>135613642
Neither. It's just a bunch of dudes remaining bachelors because shit's fucked.
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ATTENTION:

HOW is it jewish?
The only argument that is valid is "you don't have kids".
But nobody said anything about not having kids, we can have kids WHENEVER WE WANT.
It is WOMEN who can't, and that is the point.
We can wait 90 years and there will still be white women from lesser white households, the only difference being that in those 90 years we will get more done because we aren't bowing to the law and jewish tricks that women have inherited.

THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO MGTOW.

WE should decide when we mate.
a MAN decides who he marries and a MAN decides WHEN.
NOT a bunch of whiny bitches on boards.
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>>135627701
>I'm agreeing with you.
>>but like you say there's no reasoning with autists.

Coulda fooled me
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>>135627734
This guy get's it!
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>>135618414
I don't appreciate your attitude, mister.
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>>135627910
read all my posts.
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>>135613642
mgtow is exclusively targeted at WHITE MEN.

and yes, it is a jewish trick to further white genocide.
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>>135613780
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>>135614918
Get out normie
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>>135620153
>implying us betas could make a difference
we are doomed anyway, might aswell have some fun while it lasts?
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>>135624887
omg that poor guy
"kill me....."
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>>135613642
It's a trick. You think you are "getting back at women" or society but in reality you are just doing what they want you to do. Eliminate yourself from being a factor in society. Women don't mind since they don't find you attractive in the first place, and other men don't mind because it means more women for their taking. Your job is to take control of your (western) women and establish authority again. But because you are incapable of doing that (hence MGTOW) a different more patriarchal society of men will. Feminism ends in patriarchy. Western men simply failed the shit test continously, your women are begging you to take control of them and because you fail to do it they lash out more and more in their craziness. That craziness will be eliminated by strong men who will place rules on their behavior and give them a good dicking in the bedroom. And western women will love them for it. So yes, MGTOW is a trick, you should be out taking control of your women again.
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>>135618414
IT'S THE WILL OF THE GODS ANON
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>>135617491
I understand what your saying but "MGTOW" lingo is really cringe worthy comes off a fedora tipping desu
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>>135615416
People spout "beta losers that can't get girls" to preserve their version of reality where chasing pussy gives their life meaning. They can't fathom a life where they're able to be content without needing female validation.
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>>135613642
I think its time for Al Bundys Best Insults.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgDtgyzVZYk
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MGTOW is for men who don't have enough T to be a Chad.
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The premise of MGTOW is marriage is not worth the effort for men, because of the cost, benefit, and risk analysis. There is a plethora to support this. Watch the movie Divorce Corp. There is an entire industry that has been built up around peoples bad marriages. It's extremely profitable.

Even if you decide that you still want to get married, at least understand the potential legal troubles that could arise and their likelyhood. An understanding of female nature is also suggested.
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>>135634583
I hear this all the time from mgtows. How is wanting to have a relationship with women seeking "validation"
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>>135613642
It annoying, and a bunch of beta cucks who bitch more than women. Just go your own way, and shut the fuck up, while the rest of have families.
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>>135633716
Lol yeah the rise of the betabux men will regain control of Western women. You've clearly never been to America
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>>135614254
Is not a movement, is common sense.
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>>135623728
>Women will just fuck other men and have kids with other men, even if it means being poligamous.

Yes, and they will end up with a ton of half niggers living out from government`s pension.
Not a very nice end for a woman over 30´s.
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MGTOW is 99% white men. Good job faggots. Let the niggers and hajis fuck and impregnate your women because you think that women should give opinions rather than have their opinions given to them. The longer you wait to see your women as property, the more likely it is that the white race goes extinct.
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>>135613642
A bag of jewish tricks. A big amount of the women out there are complete whores but still far less than the average beta male believe there is. Women are also highly influencable by the strong men around. Stop being a beta male.
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>>135636599
Wrong.
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>>135636722
>A bag of jewish tricks.
You realize unmarried men spend a fraction of what married men need to spend, right? Jews want men not slaving away at jobs and saving money for themselves? Yeah, didn't think so.
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>>135636794
He is 100% right though. And it's a viscious cycle. The more white men are becoming beta, the more women will go with abdul and jamal and the worse the situation will become.
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>>135614291
Tbh that's not even MGTOW, that's just common sense.
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>>135613642
>jewish tricks?
Oy, what jewish tricks? there's no such thing
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>>135613642
>stay away from women, never find a wife, raise children and have a family. Women are evil, let Tyrone have them instead. Masturbating to internet ponies is much better.
>not a Jewish trick
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>>135615436
This is the most degenerate thing I have ever seen.
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>>135636916
>i need to marry and spend a fuckton of cash to keep a women

Spoken like a true beta
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>>135638123
Never reproduce spoken like a true beta.
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>>135613642
>Yes, Goy! Don't breed white children! We need the population to go down so be can import more culturally vibrant Somalians!
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>>135613642

Women are overvalued:
>Women given job positions cuz of muh diversity
>Women from 20-30 make more than men
>As a result, women get an inflated sense of self-worth as they get OLDER into their 30's.
>a 6/10 ride's multiple chad cock thinking she can settle for no less.

Marriage:
>having 10+ cocks in her lifetime, reducing chances for marriage
>can take half of your shit + lifetime alimony
>no fault divorce: aka "i'm not happy" or "i'm bored"
>family court is filled with gender studies majors
>you can't man up and put a woman in place because she can just summon white knights at will (cops).
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>>135615988
Haha no. A lot of mgtow's actually have experience with women and that's why they know finding a good one is nearly impossible.
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>>135613642
It's a bunch of silly virgin dipshits who post YouTube comments on joe rogan/Jordan Peterson videos.
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>>135638404
I'm against MGTOW if you didn't understand
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>>135613642

Is crtiicising the gynofadcist system, roasties n pointing put marriahe is slavety for men legitimaze or not ?
Hmmmmmmmmmm.... lemme think ... hmmmmmmmm.....
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>>135613642
Why not both?
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