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Putin and VPNs

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From what i understand Putin wants to ban VPNs in Russia. This includes websites where you will be annonymus, like Tor. Article below.

What is the opinion of russians? Is this what they want? Is this part of a bigger plan? Why?

http://archive.is/eQfuS
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>>135610278
To stop subversive jews from ruining their country obviously
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>>135610278
It's all about keeping degeneracy out of the public. Good ole Vlad wants to protect his people from the evils of (((porn))), not that I agree with banning VPNs.
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>>135610278
It's because Putin and his inner circle think of Tor users as Ghouls.

Here is a quote regarding it :

Vadim Ampelonskogo, the chief press officer for the country's federal authority on telecommunications, released a statement describing Tor as, "den of criminals" and "ghouls, all gathered in one place."

So basically, since he sees nothing productive coming out of Tor and all of it's users as CP collecting ghouls, they prefer to ban it. That - and it was a US DoD funded creation.

If you really have to ask then maybe you shouldn't know. lol
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>>135610278
Look up how tor works and explain to me how it can be blocked.
I don't think you understand what you're saying.
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>>135610440
Then why not simply ban porn? Sure it will be controversial but not as spicy as prohibiting Tor and VPNs.
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>>135610349
Free speech is a double-edged sword and not an obvious right once you get deep into subversion and psychological warfare.

There won't be a free society so long we have jews on Earth.
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>>135610440
>porn
How would blocking porn not cause a civil war?
>>135610589
Well, Tor/VPNs is how you'd bypass the porn blocks.
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>>135610540
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/government/russia-passes-bill-banning-proxies-tor-and-vpns/

It's the many news articles not me
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>>135610540
They can block all the exit nodes registered on the network.
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>>135610748
Also, he probably did this to spite Americans. Were talking about a guy that banned adoption, and kicked over 755 US Diplomats out of Russia. He figures they probably use Russian proxies. Now he wants nothing to do with America because of this guy. lol
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>>135610712
>tor is how you'd bypass...
Wrong.
Look it up, when you stream or make consistent contract between two devices, it defaults to your home ip.
It's a government tool meant for burst transmissions, it's a honey pot for illegal downloading.

You shites talk like you know so much, and you're wrong on every thing. Google it and learn.
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>>135610905
>because of this guy
It's the establishment that wants a new cold war so bad. They put Trump in a position that made developing better relations with Russia impossible. They wouldn't let go of the bogus Russia narrative because they wanted to make any rapport between him and Putin seem like treason.
Libtards are so easy to fool it's saddening.
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>>135610905
Resonable enough
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What does one do for internet privacy without those?

Or would you just have to live with the government seeing everything you do online?
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>>135611043
Nobody is forcing Trump to sign those sanctions but he said he will. He surrounds himself with "chosen people" and does their bidding, nobody forces him to. He is the one who built his legacy around "Healthcare repeal" knowing it would fail. Not a libtard but even people who voted for him in the 3 swing states are getting sick of him, he has dropped 10 points in all three.

Isn't it time for Trump to answer for his foolishness?
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>>135611195
It's an arms race. There are onion routing network programs and VPN programs that are much harder to detect.
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>>135610748
Right. All that shows is many people don't understand.
>>135610890
>Block all exit nodes on a random generated encryption service.
China has an intra net, and users still use tor to break a system that has better encryption and less nodes.
So much bull shit on this thread by people that couldn't bake a cake.
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>>135610278

God I fucking hope so I am so tired of Russian faggot shills proxying American and other 1st world flags and spewing pro Russian propaganda.
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>>135610278
Based Vlad as always

The only people who use VPNs are criminals who have something to hide. If you do not support this move you are a literal jewkike tranny muslim
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>>135611282
The president can't just do whatever the fuck he wants. Or he won't be president for long. You guys always oversimplify things and are way disingenuous.
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>>135610278
Brainwashed Russians like everything Putin does. Even when it hurts them directly. I swear, these fucking people...
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>>135611476
Well then. I guess he shouldn't have run on a campaign literally promising every single day he could just do anything he wants then?

I mean he never brought up the power of Federal Judges for instance. Or how his ideas wouldn't be funded.

He wasted everyone's time, and literally killed the Republican party in the process. Now after running on a Populist platform he wants to strip 33 million Americans of healthcare, most of whom are in states that supported him.

So what if he punches CNN logos and said something you liked. Does that make him flawless in your eyes?

When does he live up to his failures?
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>>135611669
Kill yourself fucking pidorashka liberashka ushanka vodka

Putin is based
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>>135611753
You're not intelligent enough to change people's mind here.
And you have no memes.
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>>135611885
Yeah, right. Calling one of the few Russian nationalists a liberal. Next time tell me Putin is not cucked by Chechens lol.
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>>135611753
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>>135611938
>sports a kekistani flag
>thinks Trump is literally a God
>believes memes are relevant to making actual points
>mentions intelligence

Done speaking to somebody retarded. lol

Picture related, it's you.

You're the type of person who will just type nigger or libtard because you have no valid thought processes to prove a point. The very quintessential equivalence of a nigger to be honest.
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>>135612157
5-0 faggot, see you in 2018 baebeeee
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>>135612157
not an argument
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>>135610278
That shit won't work. They tried to ban torrents, book piracy sites etc and everyone still uses them. Putin is a retrograde retard and a thief.
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>>135612115
>>135612260
Kekistan is more retarded than Anonymous.

A poor knockoff, even epic beardfag wasn't as gay. lol
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>>135612270
>They tried to ban torrents, book piracy sites etc and everyone still uses them.
Maybe they don't care about this? It's mostly to steal US intellectual property.
But VPNs and Tor hinders their spying ability.
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>>135610748
Pbbbbbhhhhhhh.
Didn't mean to be such a dick. Low blood sugar, it's been hours since I ate.
It's certainly possible to "ban tor" because it's become mainstream. The ip range and exit nodes are publicly available.
This is to make people feel safe.
Tor is a black ops project. You honestly believe the people that still occupy the Russian consulate can't use it for short burst transmission? The government funneled billions into a chaotic incitement that they could move secure transmissions among "static". They didn't give that up so somebody could torrent movies.

We're just learning that "Russian hackers" preformed their magic from inside the building that was hacked, and could magic Russia into it.
Just don't believe everything you read without further study.
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>>135610278
This is alt-right decision. Based Putin just tell us, now jooos cannot masquarade as good russian people.
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does that mean no more finnish? great.
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>>135612344
Do you see me with a shitty meme flag?

Nope, but you may want to take a look at your own posts. I was merely pointing out your silly butthurt, which is showing up here as well with your latest offering.
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>>135612047
U are proxykokhol. Slava Putinu! Fuck internet!
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>>135612574
You white knighted for kekistan fag, stop dick riding and you won't represent it.
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>>135611885

>American flag
>Sucking Putin cock

Either a Russian proxying an American flag or an underage who can't recognize propaganda and thinks Putin is his friend.
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>>135612347
It will work like many other laws in Russia: a reason to put someone they want in jail. Like a formal reason if someone tries to do something opposing the power. Not just shitpost but actually do something. They'll arrest him, say "Oops, we found prohibited software on his PC, we were right to arrest him". But regular people who don't care about politics won't be affected.
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>>135612632
Shut up kike tranny I am more American than you

I can name all 50 Presidents
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>>135612632
Americans are retarded, don't be surprised.
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>>135612632
Dude, based Putin is your friend. He is conservative, Christian and right wing. He hate jews and mudslims. Putin is good.
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>>135612670
Khohol please.
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>>135612615

Enjoying butthurt =/= dick riding.

Why are liberals so poor at understanding the words they use? Really, I thought your kind were so "high IQ" as your legions insist on sharing hourly.

And, you still have a shitty meme flag. Pls stop.
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>>135612721
Take off your skull and bones flag and it will reveal the Star of David

Bless these digits
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>>135610278
Putin is a kikeloving manlet.
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>>135612670
I don't know why but this seems the most realistic answer.
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>>135612733
>He is conservative, Christian and right wing. He hate jews and mudslims.
>right wing. He hate jews and mudslims.
>hate jews and mudslims
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>>135612763
Cookie cutter retarded Trump worship. lol

You think that everyone who thinks this guy is a fuck up must love liberalism?

Trump himself is literally one in disguise. He used to suck Jeffrey Epsteins dick on Lolita Island before giving Bill Clinton a reach around.

He was a liberal until just recently even when he decided to be "republican" lol
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>>135610278
Tor and vpn interfere with his spying ability.
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>>135610278
Taking into account the state of liberals in our country, an absolutely typical Russian slavish mentality in conjunction with the desire to look like progressive left-wing western sjw-cucks. It's pathetic: hipsters, nihilistic schoolkids, gays that kind of scum. So I tend to be more for Putin than against him.

But this VPN-law is a purely political step which to have more authoritarian control over the country, it's not about the national security. Because current state already blocks dumb people from the bad content such as paedos, etc. And I don't support it.

From the technical view, I'm not experiencing any troubles now to use blocked sites through vpn/proxy services. However it will complicate things. I'm not sure that they can ban completely these services just because they operate on the application level of the network stack and can use whatever protocol they like.
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>>135612593
Too fat. Try thinner.
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>>135610278
>What is the opinion of russians?
This is a shitty law. And despite what other anons said about how it's impossible to ban VPNs, it doesn't mean they wouldn't try and wreck everything in process.
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>>135612971

It's cute when your kind tries to blend in, but your cover was blown long ago.

Shoo, shoo little Jew, you'll make a fine lampshade one day, but your time here is done. We're through with your lame divide-and-conquer game.
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>>135610349
>>135610440
>>135611457
t.retards

they are just building a Russian analog of Chinese great firewall to destroy all political dissent
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>>135612760
I'm actually working for a gov-t R&D lab. But you can't deny tha the law is literally oppressing people's freedom to access whatever information they want.

And as a scientist myself, I'm pro-piracy, it boosts research a lot when you have sites like sci-hub that allow you to access and learn about what's going on in your field today without having to pay to editorial kikes.
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>>135612733
Oh my God. +15, you deserved it.
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>Putin wants to ban VPNs in Russia
China is doing the same thing.

"China Tells Carriers to Block Access to Personal VPNs by February"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-10/china-is-said-to-order-carriers-to-bar-personal-vpns-by-february
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>>135613098
Shouldn't you be telling that to Trump's inner circle, especially Jared Kushner?

They'd make the best lampshades of all just like you probably would for being so naive. lol

Everyone who isn't retarded knows Trump is surrounded by kikes and taking his orders from them as well.
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>>135613141
not that I like existing dissent though. Russia is fucked - cucks in opposition and corrupt soviet thieves in power
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>>135613141
It's looks like that actually. They'd better ban Navalny and opposition's websites than Lurkmore and Rutracker, I wouldn't complain.
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>>135613143
I'd been reading an article the other say about the illegal online scientific libraries, the libraries give access to academic papers and publications for people who can't afford many bucks on that stuff.
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>>135613328
So you're literally on 4chan and want to ban Lurk and the biggest torrent tracker? Is it some kind of joke?
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>>135613444
*the other day
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>>135613273
Keep trying, schlomo!
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>>135613449
I fucked up, sorry.
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>>135613498

trump never wins it's the liberals holding him back and the jewz ! hyuh hyuk hyuk

>playz horseshoes

my presidents gonna make me healthcareless he's so great i can just remove my rotten teeth with a rock
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>>135613141
Shut up pidorashka

Why use a VPN if you got nothing to hide
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>>135611669
welcome to club
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>>135612901
>I don't know why
Because we already have Dmitry Bogatov case
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Good this will stop Russian from watching MILF and anime/hentai porns.
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>>135610278
Tor sites are sources of the most vile contents like hiring a hitman, pedo vids, drug trade etc. No wonder.
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>>135613548

>He thinks anyone is falling for it
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>>135613555
This.

And Putin is one of the greatest statemen's around so why go against him?
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>>135613449
They should better openly ban opposition's websites as making it a political motivated step than ban Lurkmore and Rutracker and similar.
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There were minor street protests, but meh.

It's not an all out ban of VPNs, but they want to get rid of VPNs that do not conform with local laws and not ban Islamist websites and so on. It may end up with 99% of VPNs banned though, there's such a concern, yes.
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>>135613609
This

Libshits in this thread are Literally defending fucking child pornographers,
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>>135612733

>P-Putin is b-based!
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>>135613633
In 2018 this is why Democrats are going to win big. You're so retarded they wouldn't need to sow division, you'll create it yourself. lol
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>>135612672

Why are you proxying an American flag? No pride for your 3rd world slavic shithole?
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>>135610278
>>135612270

Tyranny in Russia - all under a big brother
In Russia, nothing works and it will not be

Cocks fights between Khokhl and the liberal. We make bets!
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how does one even ban tunneling? is this fake news?
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>>135613848
No, it's not. They will block access to all popular VPNs and anonymizers that refuse to block websites for Russian visitors. 99% of people won't be able to bypass this ban.
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>>135613848
Public VPNs servies for $5 can be banned. Private ones, nope.

You can track then suspicious individuals, and if he's a Muslim for example here's a target for ya. That's what they think probably.
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>>135612971
Get lost, phagget. You're Bullshit divide and conquer shilling isn't welcome here.
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>>135613651
>and not ban Islamist websites and so on
you wanted to say opposition, nationalist, separatist, pirate and anyone who's in conflict with those making decisions. Just because lots of islamists were successfully banned under old laws.
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>>135613770
Go die for Israel goyim
If you are agianst Russia or Putin you are literally a fucking PEDO
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>>135610278
Ironically archive.is is one of those prohibited websites.
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>>135613968
Go jump under a truck of peace. You'll say whatever Trump does is correct, even if it's moronic to the extent it cannot be excused. lol

Murrica is becoming the laughing stock of the world now.
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>>135613770
He's russian diaspora fag from sosach. I've seen him. A typical (but actually somewhat rare) case of russian patriot who likes two things: Putin and living abroad.
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>>135614029
>Go die for Israel goyim
>If you are agianst Russia or Putin you are literally a fucking PEDO
This. Putin literally cant do wrong.
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>>135614034
They can not block screenshots of sites. You can host photos practically everywhere.
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>>135613764
Did they give you new scripts today?

Really, you're not even making sense now. Just stop.
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>>135614202
This is true. So this new law is bad only for jews and liberals, and we hate them
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>>135614124
Liberashka kys I am not Russian I am as American as the apple pie
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>>135613848
>tunnel
You have the right idea. Tor focuses on entry and exit. As long as one user in Russia can provide entry, the exit could be anywhere.
Russia can ban KNOWN ENTRY POINTS.
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>>135614119
Neither myself nor the new ancap guy mentioned Trump, but you do in every.single.post you make. Yes, you do, totally unprovoked and unsolicited.

Which is why you're so tragically obvious. Just be glad I filled you in, since you are too thick to get it on your own.
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√ When they start regulating IT, then we will talk
√ When they start imprison people for piracy, then we will talk
√ When they start blocking websites, then we will talk
√ When they start covering themselves with "we defend children" argument, then we will talk
√ When they start doing this too often, then we will talk
√ When they make IT companies to store user information in Russian servers, then we will talk
√ When they make messengers to give away correspondence, then we will talk
√ When they ban anonymity in the internet, then we will talk
> you are here
* When they ban encryption, then we will talk
* When they implement white lists control. then we will talk
* When they block foreign internet traffic, then we will talk
* When they nationalize all IT companies, then we will talk
* When they make access to the internet license-only, then we will talk
* When they build USSR 2.0, then we will talk
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>>135610278
It will start with obvious illegal content before it expands to anything outside of their propaganda sphere.
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>>135613273
Wow, you're literally still following the David Brock playbook after he called you out and showed it to you. Suche a dedicated little shill you are!
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>>135614202
Yeah, you can. But the question is, will you? Turns out you don't have to ban something completely, you just have to make the experience so insufferable that the majority of people stop doing it. /pol/ is not gonna be assed to tailor their archiving habits to the needs of a small subset of itself, and I'm not gonna be assed to fire up a proxy every time I wanna read some particular clickbait article linked by some anon.
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>>135614397
>* When they build USSR 2.0, then we will talk
Whats wrong with it? Really mightiest Russia times.
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>>135613548
Lol, bringing up healthcare ITT. Some fucking normin talking points you got there, shill. Done with muh russia collusion, I guess.
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>>135614397
Move you are here, down two places. Look up hush mail, encryption, and the government.
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>>135613994
This.
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My opinion is: there's no hope since 2012, but they somehow manage to come up with more and more fucked up laws. It all looks like phantasmagoria, bad dream, shitty comedy of absurd.

it's time to move on and get out.
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>>135614531
for (((you)))
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I think its ridiculous though every nation but the USA will have access to free information. You all suck with your propaganda and justice system tied to online opinion. In Europe they send you to court for racism or piracy over Internets and in russia maybe too.
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>>135613764
"You", as in /pol/, as in something that is separate and distinct from you who is typing, because you are a DNC shill. Glad you admitted it, thanks for playing.
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>>135614397
This so much.
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>>135614119
Ha ha, got caught, bitch. No one's buying your crap here.
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>>135614699
But where, brother?
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>>135614478
>But the question is, will you?
I post screenshots of articles sometimes but the most of the time fuckers on /pol/ do not care about sources so it is not worth it all the time.

The Norway archive bot maintainer needs to add posting screenshots to its scripts.
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People only use Tor for drugs, child porn, and other illegal activities. Yeah tell me about all the "journalists" like Kurt Eichenwald who use porn to stay anonymous. Give me a break, legit journalists and dissidents account for a fraction of a percent of the total activity on Tour and the rest is degenerate people pushing drugs and child abuse and weapons. Its not worth the damage to society to let so-called """journalists" stay anonymous. Shut her down

VPNs should stay though
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>>135614397
The Internet should be nationalized, though. Why would you think differently?
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>>135614699
>It all looks like phantasmagoria, bad dream, shitty comedy of absurd.
Worst part about it is retards in Europe (USA dodged the bullet for now) strive to adopt their practices. You may've heard of Theresa May also willing to go full Britcomnadzor. Because of islamists and right-wingers of course, lol.
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>>135614853
Denmark sounds nice, so I move slowly in that direction
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>>135614980
> nationalized
Enjoy your debt hole.
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>>135611282
>Nobody is forcing Trump to sign those sanctions
But they literally they voted on sanctions with a super majority. It was like 400-5, the rules don't allow the president to vetoe in this case he has to sign it, how can that be his fault?
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>>135614902
>le "illegal tor activities" outdated meme
When other activities are not deliberately proclaimed illegal because someone in power is butthurt he can't control the flow of information – yes.
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Shit I love this murican alt-right kids. Just redpilling you about post soviet countries - they all are western colonies. Oligarchs take their kids to European colleges, store money in US and EU banks and have houses in EU and us. Putin is putting VPN ban not because he is **ALT RIGHT AGAINST FUCCIN JEWS**, but because he wants even more authority and money to him and his oligarch friends. Also, dear murican **OLT RAIT ANTI JEW** kids - maybe a half of people in post soviet governments are Jews.
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>>135615025
Europe is not a monolith Sweden/Germany/UK, Denmark sounds nice, probably Czech Republic.

USA for now looks really fucked up, like Russia, but with their own shit.
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>>135610278
He's probably sick of foreign nations routing traffic through Russia in order to blame Russia for its problems.

Harder to scream "muh Russia hakurz" when there are no VPNs. Rather sad it has come to this, though.
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>>135615583
> He's probably sick of foreign nations routing traffic through Russia
Are all commies mentally handicapped? It's the other way around, he is banning foreign VPNs.
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>>135615534
It never change. Only come to the USA if you want to have a gun battle like wild west everyday.
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>>135610905
SUBVERSION
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>>135616104
how are they gonna go down?
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>>135610278
Russians are absolutely retarded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiOiSQG5iVY
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>>135610278
As our government recognised internet as a political tool, especially in the hands of oposition, they started to develop a means of controlling it. As any ex KGB putin assumes that person using VPN has something to hide aka either agent or criminal. The ideal situation according to him is making any internet activity of particular person open and trackable. That's kinda logical as internet expereinces were not regulated at all in russia untill recent habbenings. But sadly that might be the case where regulation="lol too complicated to learn wtf is this, let's just ban it". So eventually we may end up with something chink-like.
Fairly saying, i as well as most of russians kinda dislike this, as no one likes loosing freedoms, but deep inside something tells me personally that it's right thing to do long term at this point.
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>>135611885
Vot ty i spalilsya, putinskiy bolshevichok.
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>>135617734
it's a comedy show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD81Uxgh1jQ
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>>135618209
Putinsky bolshevichok? Eto kak voobshe? Putka ge ne kommynyaka ne razu, ne po delam ne po bazaru. Da i voobshe normalnih kommynyak ne ostalos pochti - v setyah kakie to dolboebi v osnovnom, a na Zuganovskix pidril tak voobshe smotret stidno, ya ebu kak za nih eshe kto to golosyet. Vot chestno hot na Navalnogo ego menayt mogno, on hotya bi action sozdavat budet.
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>>135610349
>To stop subversive jews from ruining their country obviously

What if you're wrong, and they don't have VPNs ?

people using us as an excuse to further their lust for power is pathetic.
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>>135610278
Russian cucks on suicide for not watching Blacked porn anymore
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>>135610278
>step 1: download TOR through an encrypted connection
>step 2: laugh in Putin's face as you watch CP on the deep web
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>>135612733
From november you'll get arrested and beaten with half full plastic bottles for this.
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BASED. He's the president and can do whatever he want's if he believes it's for the benefit of the people. Only SJW libtards would disagree.
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>>135611405
and yet you're posting on 4chan
where people, relatively speaking, are tech literate
normies don't even know what tor is and only know what a vpn is in relation to getting bbc iplayer abroad
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