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What do you actually stand for?

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Bettwen those who are White Nationalists, those who pretends to be for the sake of LULZ, left wingers, shills, or just bored people, this board is kinda a clusterfuck.

So I am curious if you could each just write what do you actually stand for?

Would be interesting to see what peoples view are.
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make a strawpoll
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>>135600671
The education system and objective truth.
Stable lifestyles rather than boom and bust.
(nice flag btw)
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>>135600671
Fuck off, data mining thread.
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>>135600836

I would prefer if people would just write in short what they want out of the world. There are to many options and strawpoll would limit them.
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>>135600671
The extermination of all jews. Unironically.
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>>135600961

No, just a curious bystander.
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>>135601098

There are pretty much no Jews in Croatia (total of 1000), and the country is still fucked due to local Croats being greedy, corrupt and blind.

Funny how people blame their problems on others, even when it makes no sense.
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>>135600866

How do you get to objective truth, when more or less people in general dont want the truth, when it doesnt suit them?

Isnt this a fundamental flaw in the humans themselves?
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>>135601098
this tb.h
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>>135601243
literally looks like a horse
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:)
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>>135603432
moar
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>>135600671
Some days I can go on for hours about what I am and I stand for in great detail, other times I couldn't even tell you the fundamentals.
I truly believe all Niggers and Muslims should be gassed. I realize that there are a few niggers who have achieved success and a few even have brain. But I don't care, we can't let them reproduce. Jews are a mixed bag. I think with the right tactics they could be powerful allies.
I go back and forth about things like capitalism and how much power the state should have. One thing that never changes is my pure, seething hatred for leftist politics, and the further left it goes, the further right I go to counter it.
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>>135604277
Why gas them rather than just deport them back to their home countries? Are you really that adamant about killing people?
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>>135603556

Well, I did want to hear why would a guy from Croatia blames Jews for his problems when they dont even live in the country.

But seems this board isnt very good place for discussions.
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>>135604491
American niggers don't have a home country to go to. African niggers have wasted the most resource rich paradise on planet earth. They don't even deserve to be on such a beautiful continent.
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>>135604491
Good question, one thing I dont understand about white nationalist types who want murder, is why do they want it?

You have blacks and muslims for their violence right? So why advocate for the same thing that they are doing.

..and I am not talking again self-defense or protecting ones own nation, but against this "genocide them all" type of thinking.
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>>135604604
few and far between
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>>135604790
You have * You hate*

I type like crap:)
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>>135600671
I am in the traditionalist, tiger-riding camp. Sort of stay out of politics but lean right if forced to reply. I work, pay taxes, went to college, have a wife and kid. But there are some points in the far right that should not be anathema. I find disappointing the inability to even discuss things without being attacked as a [whatever]ist
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>>135604796

That quote of yours didnt come from Voltaire, and my question still stands, why blame Jews for issues in a country where they pretty much dont exist like he did with Croatia?

As someone presumably from USA, you could have a view like this, since there are number of powerful and corrupt Jews in your country.

But that same corruption happens in places with no Jews, so the whole world view of (((Them))) running and ruining everything doesnt seem logical to me.
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>>135600671
I stand for calling OP a faggot
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>>135604790
If they aren't destroyed what's to stop it from happening again? A temporary solution to a permanent issue does nothing but delay the inevitable. In the end one of the races will destroy the rest, this is the human nature of tribalism. So why not now?
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>>135605041
Very fair points.
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>>135600671
I stand for whatever benefits me the most.

Isn't that what everyone truly stands for, at the end of the day?
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>>135605177
if you say so, by their seeds you shall know them.....
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>>135600671
I tend to be fiscally conservative; want rules and laws enforced equally, including immigration; socially liberal, but I'm not a psycho progressive or anything
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>>135600671
- Islam must be fought back and vigilantly contained in the Arabian peninsula.
- Affirmative Action (institutionalized anti-white/asian racism) must be dismantled.
- white guilt must be countered with Western pride.

Don't care about much else.
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>>135605184

There are countries throughout the world that dont allow mass immigration and that is a non violent and far less hypocritical solution to the issue.

Also I dont believe there would be 1 race destroying the rest, if such destruction does come, it will probably be at the expense of all, or at least vast majority of humans.

Not to mention that people arent allied along the racial lines, or pretty much any other lines.
S Korea vs N Korea, Japan vs China, Muslims vs Muslims, one European country vs other, Left vs Right ....
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>>135600671
racially aware, left leaning
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>>135605268
Nope, some of us genuinely want to help others.
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>>135605382
by their fruit, sorry
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>>135600671
>this board is a clusterfuck
Wow, you're right. We should organize and have one, clear, easy to understand narrative to make it easier for people outside of /pol/ to figure is out.
That would be great.
Maybe we should have the upvote and have everyone register their personal or better yet work email.
Then we could even take it a step further and have /pol/ news mailed out to the home addresses of all /pol/ goers to keep everyone up to date.
Youre a true gentlemen and scholar, OP.
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Strong constitutionalist. I like my guns, i get mad when people tell me i shouldnt own something. Mostly jewish run media who does this. So i naturally see them as an enemy to my self interest. I also hate liberals telling me my self interests.
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Starism. It's a political philosophy that puts traveling and colonizing the stars before all else. Nothing else matters at all unless where travel to the stars to secure the existence of the human species.
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>>135605184
Jesus Christ, you'd think the best of what the white race has to offer would be intelligent enough to rise above the tribalistic mentality of "These people are not like me. So instead of leaving them to their own lands and forgetting about them forever, I'm just going to kill them all for no real justifiable reason."

I swear I was never worried about the eventual rise of right-wing extremism until I found this place.
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>>135605824

Why thank you kind sir!

But seriously though, I am just a passerby, and I thought this site would be a bit better when it comes to communication and replies, as some other forums usually are, I am not advocating for it being turned into reddit or whatever you were trying to imply :)

It can and should stay what it is, I just had a bit different assumptions.
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>>135605971
unless we*
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>>135600671
I'd like my country to stay a nation state. I'd also like Japan to stay Japan and the tribes in Nigeria not to fuck each other up but live in peace as distinct peoples.

I also want to protect endangered species and clean polluted waters and natural habitats.
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>>135600671
Bigotry and Perversion.
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>>135605971

Interesting.

Do you think there is a chance of humanity ever doing this in some time frame which doesnt include our destruction before this is possible?

Other question is, if we fuck things up so badly while we do have richness of life that we do here on Earth, what makes you think we could works together in much harsher and fucked up environments that space "offers"?
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>>135600671

I'm anti nigger, though I dabble in fucking nigger women.
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>>135606231
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>>135606052
> I just had a bit different assumptions.
Have you done this with other sites? What have been some of your observations?
Which changes would benefit a site like reddit for example?
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>>135600671
I don't identify with any party. We are divided, and they win because of years of propoganda. Some of us are loners politically.
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I could go into every philosophical, cultural, and religious influence in my politics but it all boils down to this: fuck off leave and leave me alone
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>>135606119
Noble goals, I was under impression that Finland isnt fucked with immigration in the way Sweden is, is that correct?
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>>135606231
Make sure its with the worst intent :^)
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>>135605513
Ask a man who's brother, father, lover, or friend was killed by a Muslim or violated by a pack of feral niggers if he cares about being a hypocrite when he says they should all be killed. Hypocrisy is nothing but a word.
If we were to start now, we could still do it without nuclear arms. But that tipping point is coming. Soon what you said will be totally correct, it wont be possible without almost everyone on earth dying. But then again, perhaps it would be better that way.
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>>135606133

Come on! Tell me more!

Exactly what kind of bigotry and perversion do you want?
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>>135606231

Doesnt fapping or making love with some cute mixed babe make you less racist?
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>>135606392
We're gonna need a bigga tree, and pure virgins.
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>>135606211
Yes, i do think we can do it. In fact, I would say it is our destiny as a species. We just have to manifest it.

Think about every political, religious, or economic principle you hold within yourself. None of this matters, if you aren't around to hold it. The highest importance is survival. We must spread out into the Galaxy.
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>>135606307
>Democracy is a farce
The idea is that in aspiring to true democracy, we at least get further away from other less desirable systems.
Are you the type to believe that some jewish conspiracy placed Trump in the white house and that every politician is in on it and pretending or acting that everything is what it is at the moment?
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>>135606302

>>Which changes would benefit a site like reddit for example?

Getting new leadership which stands for free speech and is anti censorship.

Reinstituting anything from r/Jailbail to all the racists, alt/right and any other subs that were removed.

Also hosting live debates so that people can duke their viewpoints out would be awesome.
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>>135600671

Inter-dimensional empath who prefers left company, but agrees with right policies. Came to this board from /x/ when I realized the information was better researched here, and also for the dank memes. What can I say? /Pol/ was right.
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>>135600671
keeping out retard like you
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Self-Mastery
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>>135606634
>hosting live debates
Idk that you understand modern internet culture.
If you do that, you'll only get attention whoring and clueless retards on soap boxes.
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>>135600671
>So I am curious if you could each just write what do you actually stand for?
Why would I put a label on myself?
Confine myself to a neat little box for what? You to understand me?
If your ability to understand someone as a person is based upon seemingly arbitrary labels we put on ourselves, then you are in for a shock in life. Some people don't fit into you IDpol box
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>>135606484
Kek'd
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Pretty much a practicalist. My whole philosophy is what works, and what fundamentals we need to adequately be a Democracy.

This boils down to only two policy positions that really motivate me.
1. We shouldn't need a constitutional amendment to make sure people can't de facto bribe politicians. (CU and McCutcheon)
2. I don't give a fuck if government expands or shrinks. If a law seems to work at its intent, it stays. If it does not, and there is no viable model elsewhere in the world, it goes.
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>>135600671
The very realistic thing I think I can work towards in the next 20 years is this:
>Scrapping the UNHCR and accepting no more refugees. I don't mind funding safe economic zones in overseas war zones, but strictly no more refugees.
>Reducing immigration rates to practically zero, and creating a society that it's feasible and affordable to have kids.
>Deport criminals on dual passports
>Let anyone that wants to fight for ISIS leave the country unharmed and their passports immediately ripped up
>Continue to fight the degenerates at antifa
We keep on putting our ideas forward. We keep shitposting and memeing hard, backing nationalist political parties with conservative principles I genuinely believe it can happen. Obviously the ideal goal would be to deport everyone that isn't white, but I just can't see how that would happen in 20 years. I've seen the tide perception shift with climate change, so hopefully this can get the country back on track (AusFag btw)
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>>135606749
>self-mastery
Kek. What does that entail?
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>>135604604
>But seems this board isnt very good place for discussions.
Yup plebbit seems more your speed there champ
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>>135606830
this
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>>135600671
I'm Chad. I stand with my /fit/bro.
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Ethno-nationalism for Europe. The continued demographic majority of White Europeans in North America.
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>>135606344

Hypocrisy is actually a deed, saying that you stand for one thing, while doing the opposite.

Seems only thing that bothers you about feral behavior is when the "other side" is doing it, since claiming innocent lives is not an issue for you.

..and again, what I have said in that post still stands, many countries solve this by not allowing immigration, not by advocating for the wide genocide.
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>>135606337
It's not Sweden-tier, but there are still way too many immigrants here which doesn't make the future look bright at all since these imported peoples are not going back and with the passing of older native generations demographics could quickly reach a very dangerous point.
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>>135606905
Additionally:
>destroy multiculturalism
>destroy the racial discrimination act
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>>135604604
> Croatia didn't have Jews.
Do you know nothing about Yugoslavia?
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>>135600671
The betterment and progress of humanity.
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>>135605992
>These people are not like me. So instead of leaving them to their own lands and forgetting about them forever, I'm just going to kill them all for no real justifiable reason.
There is the issue right there. we already broke that barrier, and because of that mistake, we can't go back, these people will bug us until the end of time. we opened pandora's box and now we have two choices. You know what they are.
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>>135606830

I think tonight Shapiro vs Cenk debate was fairly OK, and things can get better.

Both sides showed their side of the argument, Cenk didnt spaz out and started to yell, overall I would say Ben did better and has won the debate, and this opens the door for further discussions.

Even if there are attention whores, I believe public would sort that out and best debaters would rise to the top, which would lead to some quality conversations.
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>>135606602
Democracy is not a desirable system. It is predicated on subversion of national unity of ideology, morals, etc., and leads inevitably to the progress-onanite mentality which has led to the state of decay we are in now. Democracy denies instinctual impulses towards hierarchy, authority, etc. These are instincts precisely because they promote the genetic health of a group over time. A system that most srongly adheres to, and structurally reinforces instinctual impulses will profit most over time. That is how civilizations became great. Our current civilization is on the fast-track to niggerville precisely because of the way it structures society.
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>>135600671
sterilisation of the niggers of the world, we just want less nigglets in general so that white people can leave their homes without worrying too much about leaving the door unlocked. Things were much better in white suburban areas until you fucking jungle bunnies came about.
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>>135600671
Technocratic national socialism at the centre of civilisation, ideally with some sort of AI in charge, slowly spreading outwards.

Hyper Capitalistic free for alls and experimental societies on the frontier.

Both societies would compete and cooperate with one another pushing human evolution as quickly as possible. Central society adopting whatever is found to work well that it has observed being done out in the frontier,

This is assuming we master space travel
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>>135600671
To secure the best future possible for my future children. Also to exterminate jews.
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>>135606672
Ahahahah I love your description! Here is how I view myself, I try to see things are being true or not.

I dont want others to impose things against my will or commit violence against me, so I wont advocate same being done to them. (self-defense being an obvious exception)

I also wont blindly pretend that mass immigration isnt causing violence, and lie about that whole situation.

Same could be said for number of other topics, basically I try to see things as they truly are, rather than to try to deny or lie about them due to some ideological leaning.

As far as company goes, I stick mostly to myself and "my" own thoughts
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>>135600671
The ousting of pretty much all politicians.
Possibly what >>135607047 said, with the added caveat that all nations be allowed their own ethnic nationalism without meddling in each other's affairs. Basically Israel if they weren't complete assholes and hypocrites.
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>>135607072
Of course it bothers me when the other side is doing it, that's a retarded point to make. If I'm a football player and I want to score goals, I'm not gonna let the other team score goal just because I want to as well. Nor would I score goals on myself just because I JUST want to commit touchdowns.
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I just want to build a flying motorbike and be allowed to commute on it.

Liberals and commies tend to tell me i shouldnt do that. Thus, msm and all associated authorities are my natural enemy and need to one day be defeated by subversion or opposition.

I come here to sometimes because the memes are funny

Sage
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>>135600671
Defense of things I love, making money, keeping people I dislike out of my immediate area. There are other things I would stand for, if I lived in a different society.
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>>135607103
I said doesnt, not didnt. Dont misquote me :)

WW2 happened long time ago, and blaming the situation in a country on a group of people which is practically non-existent is illogical.
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>>135606602
You ever hear of a constitutional republic? Yeah, better than mob rule (until it is undermined by foreign money and subversion to which it then becomes a proxy democracy).
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>>135607360
>Democracy denies instinctual impulses towards hierarchy, authority, etc.
Wrong, it challenges instinctual impulses. There are layers of complexity that creates which allows for a deeper understanding how society and the people within that society work. This is why although people like you believe democracy to be inferior, fail to recognize that other ideologies cannot compete with democracy...so far.
>These are instincts precisely because they promote the genetic health of a group over time.
Wrong. They promote a stagnant people along with a stagnant ideology.
>A system that most srongly adheres to, and structurally reinforces instinctual impulses will profit most over time.
Wrong, it will be surpassed by a system that is constantly self correcting and creating an environment that fosters thought before action.
>That is how civilizations became great.
Wrong. Name one great civilization in existence today that is not a democracy.
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>>135600671
>What do you actually stand for?
14 by any means necessary, with a preference to 88.
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>>135607570
Completely missing the point.

Football is a game where both sides participate willingly and agree to the rules, violence upon those who have not wronged you is an act of aggression that violates them in the worst way possible.

There is no hypocrisy is trying to score goals/touchdowns when that is what you have agreed to do.
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>>135607302
>Even if there are attention whores, I believe public would sort that out and best debaters would rise to the top, which would lead to some quality conversations.
Shouldn't that have already happened? Why are there still attention whores dominating places like youtube and instatwitter?
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>>135607733
tell me more, what would those things be in more ideal society?
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>>135608280

Hey, ENFP, do you know your Enneagram?
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>>135607933
>blaming the situation in a country on a group of people which is practically non-existent is illogical.
You underestimate the jew, and have forgotten the lesson WW2 taught us.
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Mise en place, where the hardworking man can achieve his dreams through his craft, where the philosopher can learn to master himself, where the warrior and fronteirsman are never short of adventure and challenge, the pacifists can reside somewhere free of unecessary conflict, and where children grow up knowing that that will surpass their fathers, while their ancestors look on proudly. A place where people know who they are, and what they want, and are individuals who enjoy coming together as collectives to achieve goals voluntarily. I personally want something to believe in, since even my nation has been rotting from the inside by people who pervert its bounty. I even have a hard time deciding whether I would fight for my country if the draft was reinstated, since all it seems to do is put you through a meatgrinder while traitors at home label you as worthless or evil. I want to be excited to be handed responsibility, and hold the banner for something I truly can get behind. I want to treat every obstacle as the way by which I better myself, and can use it to better my peers as well. I want to find myself in a place of morals, honor, and liberty. These things are what I stand for, and wish to promote.
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>>135608337

Because they are isolated in their own little echo-chambers surrounded by their fanboys/girls?

I did notice that lately there are more youtubers doing debates and such (clusterfucks most often), but a properly organized debates like the tonight's Politicon one, with people who come prepared would be productive.
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>>135608536
>Because they are isolated in their own little echo-chambers surrounded by their fanboys/girls?
Wrong, because they overwhelm and over run the website.
Its not an echo-chamber until they make it one.
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>>135608536
>Because they are isolated in their own little echo-chambers surrounded by their fanboys/girls?
This thread disproves that theory
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>>135608366
>ENFP

I did do some personality tests in the past, I just think I came out as introverted rather than extroverted, but rest of that descriptions seems to fit.

Not to say that I am shy or unable to communicate, just that I prefer to keep to myself, since I like to engage my own thoughts.
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Strong national identity for all.
Transperency for groups and privacy for the individual.
Traditional family values.
Conversation over violence.
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>>135608438

Then answer the question I wanted to hear an answer to from the start, how do they control Croatia when they dont even exist there, and it is very clear that it is other Croats in positions of power that are corrupt?

Same question is equally valid, or even more so, for the country like China.
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I'm for freedom, my dude. And individual accountability. Even if you want to talk about tendencies of groups such as religious adherents or members of certain races, at the end of the day it comes down to individual conduct. I don't think good blacks should suffer because of the sins of niggers, and I don't think that whites should suffer because of the sins of their ancestors. Absolutists- whether from the left or the right- will be the downfall of our civilization.
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>>135609013
:)

Well said!
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>>135608671
>>135608675

If the leadership had the will, they could and would direct their own sites in more open direction.

Whenever I see a website falling into pro-censorship and pro-agenda driven modus operandi, it is due to those who are in control of the websites.
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>>135609081
>le blacks vs niggers epic maymay
No
The only reason (((they))) were able to sell thug culture to blacks is because race underpins culture
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>>135608280
I could agree with you if we were talking about a nation that understands those rules. Do you think those niggers in the middle east or Africa wouldn't invade if they had the equipment and manpower? Do you think really think China wont find itself knocking on our door 20 years or so from now? Don't be naive.
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>>135608982
>how do they control Croatia when they dont even exist there?
It is NOW precisely because (((they))) supposedly are not there that they work to control that place. The neighboring and even distant nations where (((they)))ARE located now hold a coercive power dynamic over Croatia because of (((international banks))).
>and it is very clear that it is other Croats in positions of power that are corrupt?
Again (((international banking))) has influence over the politicians wherever they're present.
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>>135609346
I didnt argue against that, but you are pretending that every black is a nigger.
That people arent individuals, even if certain large part of the group acts certain way.
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To make the west white again
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>>135607272
Send them back to their home countries, or _______...?
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>>135609346
All I'm saying is that even if there are tendencies and trends amongst populations, I don't want to punish, deport, exterminate, etc. all members of religions or races just because they're a member of that group. If one really wanted to cull society, those that are culled and removed from the population should only be removed based on their actions, not the actions of their associates.
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>>135609287
>If the leadership had the will, they could and would direct their own sites in more open direction
So websites would benefit from from owners that dictate the direction of the site? Like maybe by creating commities to study and determine the best direction of the website?
Communist websites?
Egalitarian websites that promise everyone will have their fair share of time and promotion?
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>>135601140
>bystander
lurk moar or just leave. discord is intentional
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>>135609458

Ok so non-exsistant Jews control the Croatia, even though we both know that you can even point out to who these people supposedly are.

How is China controlled by Jewish banking when they have formed their own BRICS bank? Where are those Jews controlling the China?
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>>135609399
I hate to paint pictures here, but you legitimately sound like a bloodthirsty sociopath who's trying to make up long term excuses for hundreds or thousands of years down the line in order to try and justify a total worldwide extermination of innocent people who pose no real immediate threat to you or your people.
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>>135600671
Nothing.
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>>135609399

African and middle-eastern countries only have the gear that west gives them, they arent capable of producing it. Also diplomacy and cooperation would make those who are hostile to be less so, or not at all.

China is an interesting example, yes they could indeed come knocking on the door some years from now, still West could do so much to prevent that. Look at N Korea, I am sure that whole thing could have been averted by having an actual line of communication with Kim. One that has someone truly capable in charge and not Rodman.

This standoffish behavior that you and some leaders in the West have only prevents a dictator like Kim from ever seeing reason.
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>>135608134
you sound retarded
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>>135609848
>Ok so non-exsistant Jews control the Croatia, even though we both know that you can even point out to who these people supposedly are.
(((They))) exist. And (((they))) influence policy remotely from nations like the USA and Germany. Thats how a coercive power dynamic works. Direct involvement isnt necessary when your movements or behaviors change others around you against their will. Do you not see what the (((EU))) is attempting to do to poland and hungary? Do you not realize that Croatia would be compliant should the politicians be influenced by the (((EU)))?

>How is China controlled by Jewish banking when they have formed their own BRICS bank? Where are those Jews controlling the China?
China is another topic, let me know if you want to go that far into the discussion.
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I want every person darker than pic related put to the sword. Some concessions may be made for people such as Ben Carson and ones similar to him.
Leftists and their policies must be removed from society as they are the reason that society is so sickly. Their dreams of a multicultural world are a farce and will be the eventual death of anything good.
I want more environment protection legislation so that the planet isn't ruined by the time I'm 50.
I want the Jews to be eradicated as they have proven they they just cannot be trusted.
I want us l spend more on space exploration and future colonization as the moment we escape the kuiper belt we are immortal as a species.
I could type a whole lot more but I want to sleep soon.
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>>135609708

No, the owners dictate the direction of the website either way.

So if it becomes more pro censorship or pro free speech, both are the dictates of the owners.

I argued that they should have gone for the free speech route, instead of this opposite trend that is happening.
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>>135610174
Top kek. Nice argument. Tell me more.
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>>135610211
Whoops pic related
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>>135600671
The right to sexual freedom, obviously
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>>135600671
I'm a national socialist, but not a nazi. I think Hitler was an unbelievable political force that did a shitload of good for his country. However, he tainted the political system of National Socialism with his racist ideology and obsession over the jews, to say nothing of his vendetta following WW1. If Hitler had not gone into expansion or extermination mode he would have been my hero. Instead he's a mass murdering fool with no strategy or foresight.
In a nutshell, I believe that governments should have benevolent dictatorships with noninterventionist foreign policies, state regulated morality in the markets and taxes rates proportionate to income. I think that borders should be closed and strong. I think that a country's culture should be malleable within certain limits, though any immigrants should assimilate or be deported. I think social programs should come through jobs, and that job creation should be the absolute priority in economic growth and policy should reflect that. I think the prosperity brought about through unity, decisive action on the part of the government, and money saved by not going to war unless attacked should be reinvested in society through education and infrastructure.
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>>135600671
I actually stand for white supremacy and kike extermination, other nonwhites can exist as segregated vassals, they would be taken care of so long as they stay in their lane. Only whites are fit to rule, everyone else is too degenerate, corruptible, dumb, and have 0 empathy. Only whites are humans. Subhumans belong below.
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>>135609630
You send them back, they come back. You waste money until the end of time sending them back or until they grow the economy and/or military to wipe you out.
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>I'm against race mixing degeneracy!
>Unless the man is from my race lol
Fucking virgins without a shred of dignity or self respect.
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>>135610205

1. Why do you write the dumb ((((They)))) thing and not just say the word Jews?

2. Sure they are trying to influence Hungary and Poland, but it is backfiring and they wont succeed, if anything the EU will break apart. Which only shows to me that Jews or whoever else the Globalists that push for this are, arent as powerful as you perceive them to be.

3. China, well yes that is a wonderful example of country that is deeply corrupt, non-Jewish and has its own International bank. So if this is a Jewish thing, and not a human thing, why do we see all the same failings happening in the place with no Jews?
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>>135600671
>So I am curious if you could each just write what do you actually stand for?

>World confederation
>Anti-democracy, meritocracy based on IQ, degree of being informed and depth of education
>Evidence-based policy wherever possible, without exceptions
>Small-to-medium government
>Gifted education and free university in place of widespread welfare

So meritocrat, essentially. Still call myself right-wing conservative in front of normies, though. Of all the modern thinkers I am closest to Habermas, if he wasn't as anti-science. If we're delving into less archaic ones, I like behaviouralist paradigm in political science.
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>>135610631
*less modern
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>>135610217
>I argued that they should have gone for the free speech route
Are you sure? Here >>135608536 you argued that "echo-chambers" needed to be corrected, that would imply censoring is needed as the echo chamber would be an example of free speech.
Is an echo chamber not an example of people practicing free speech?
If you (((shut them down))) is that not censorship?
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>>135610287

From what age?
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>>135610716
You're a retard. Look at the pic
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>>135610340
So which would cost more money: strengthening your borders to a nearly impenetrable level, or staging a mass worldwide extermination that would likely cost the lives of many of your own citizens as well?

I swear you're reaching McCain levels of globalist warmongering here.
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>>135610716
Pure freedom! You must be some kind of fascist or fucked up Christian to be asking that question. Muslims know best.
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>>135600671
nothing
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>>135600671
I want to live in a world, where the only person who can tell me what I can and can't do with my body, family and property is myself.

I want to raise children in a world where the only things holding them back is their willingness to prosper, and work ethic. The only discrimination against them being their merits.

I want to start a business in a world where I have complete control over how I run it, and the only people involved are me, my employees, and my clients.

I also want to retire in a world where my children's children may prosper from the hardships I've endured on their behalf, and the only thing stopping them from achieving unimaginable success is their own merits.

To finalize, I want to die in a world where everything I have worked for was preserved, through my family's lineage. Everything I had dreamed of during my life has materialized in the world through my hard work and sacrifice, and the entirety of the human race has been bettered thanks to the successes of myself and my peers.

>t. anarcho-capitalism
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>>135610688

Yes I am sure.

I've never stood for anything like that.

Echochamber can be corrected by allowing reason to flow to the top.

Nobody has to be censored, but if front page post is a popular debate between 2 opposing views, where one clearly demonstrates that it is the correct one, that would influence people to change their views.

Influence through reason=/= censorship.
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>>135610821
Oh yes strengthen our 9 thousand miles of our borders and coasts that don't include Alaska vs just killing people.
Am I serious or joking?
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>>135610793
Ehh I know it is a pedo organization, that is why I wanted to hear from him what age exactly he considers to be appropriate.
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>>135610556
>1. Why do you write the dumb ((((They)))) thing and not just say the word Jews?
If well all were constantly using the word jew and not get creative with joos or (((them))) it would sound a lot like the echo chamber you fear soo much
>2. Sure they are trying to influence Hungary and Poland, but it is backfiring and they wont succeed, if anything the EU will break apart. Which only shows to me that Jews or whoever else the Globalists that push for this are, arent as powerful as you perceive them to be.
Correct, now youre getting it. We've identified (((them))) at every corner rather than fantasizing about a mystical Croatia where (((they))) don't have influence. Its about questioning everything and looking into the people involved and asking all the right questions. If you lurk enough, you'll find we always find the jew, and we're always right.
And yes they are as powerful as I preceive, that is evident as we're having to fight them off on our own clay rather than vice versa
>3. China, well yes that is a wonderful example of country that is deeply corrupt, non-Jewish and has its own International bank. So if this is a Jewish thing, and not a human thing, why do we see all the same failings happening in the place with no Jews?
To beat the jew, people often default to trying to become the jew. The (((international bank))) is a jewish invention, that the Chinese are attempting to copy like everything else they copy, yet dont realize that its specifically designed to foster corruption.
The jews love corruption because it means people can be bought and sold.
Have you learned anything from me yet?:^)
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>>135600671
A war-torn, burning world. Purging all the kikery by fire would do so much good to the world. Only save the selected few.
I am for fascism.
But by today's standards, Fascism is impossible due to the mistakes of the past. Unless we give up old history and rewrite everything from zero, I don't see a fascist society being accepted anywhere in the world. Even the norks have the threat of being destroyed anytime. They're puppets for the other great powers and they'll be the first to go down.
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>>135611107
Influencing the thoughts of others because you don't like what they are saying so you want to change it from a position of authority is literally censorship you dumbfuck.
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>>135610866

I guess this is some kind of troll post.
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>>135601243
sauce?
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>>135611193
I mean the fact that you even asked with him including thay pic just shows how retarded you are
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>>135611107
This >>135611257 :^)
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>>135600671
I stand for the perfect post apocalyptic world of Jewish masters, black performers and degenerate white women
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>>135600671
I see Cultural Marxism as a threat to society - this was my starting point. The longer I've been on /pol/, the closer I am to 1488/Hitler dindu/fascism.
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>>135600671
>white ethnostate
>somewhat traditional roles
>children raised in the home, rather than daycare
>not being fucked in the arse by non tax paying corporations
>liveable wage for even the lowest of workers
>less incentive to be a lazy cunt on the dole
>a culture against faggotry/degeneracy
>free basic education
>free basic healthcare
>room for privatisation in both
>no kikes
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>>135610901
That guy looks like a capitalist desu
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>>135611444
Whoa, digits with an edge.
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I mean, I know I'm sort of n environmentalist, but why is it always the tree huggers who are actually retarded?
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>>135611444
My God
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>>135611483
The Peruvian shitstain would know.
Hello fellow dotard
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>>135611469
>white ethnostate
>somewhat traditional roles
>children raised in the home, rather than daycare
>not being fucked in the arse by non tax paying corporations
>liveable wage for even the lowest of workers
>less incentive to be a lazy cunt on the dole
>a culture against faggotry/degeneracy
>free basic education
>free basic healthcare
>room for privatisation in both
>no kikes
Uh, all you had to say was no kikes, that would solve everything else you listed
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>>135601254
In my country, there are a lot of Jewish folks who are like the bad dudes you're talking about.
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>>135600671
National Socialism. No memes. No lulz.
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>>135611202
>Have you learned anything from me yet?:^)

Yes, that you will imagine a Jew being behind every corner, even when you know that you cant give any exact examples of them being there.

I guess anything will do to justify your world view.

To you all the corruption in the world comes from Jews, even when they arent present.

I also wonder how do you explain all the examples of corruption throughout human history with all the different civilization where and when Jews didnt even exist.
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>>135600671
to secure the existence of our people and a future for white children
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>>135611469
I like you
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>>135611257

Suppressing their views is censorship.

Having an influence through the dialogue, while allowing them to express their views is the exact opposite.

I thought it was the SJW types who have a trouble with dictionary and the meaning of words.
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>>135611455

Would you feel comfortable living in the Nazi Germany? (peace time before it was bombed)
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>>135611709

Well that is my point, that these are human traits and that you can see them all over the place, and all throughout the history. So blaming it on group of people that couldn't have been there in all those cases is literally insane.
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>>135611750
>Yes, that you will imagine a Jew being behind every corner, even when you know that you cant give any exact examples of them being there.
If I organized all my screen caps of years of lurking /pol/ I could provide you with plenty evidence that every article, bill etc often has (((shekleburgstein))) as the author. Maybe I made the mistake of not preparing something like that for newfags but I always expected those that visit /pol/ would have some experience and advanced knowledge of the joo.

To you all the corruption in the world comes from Jews, even when they arent present.
Not all, but if you want to know more, start at the napoleonic wars, and go from there.you'll see the tremendous influence that group has had in western history, non of it being positive. Lurk more, learn more.
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I want 2 things:
1. To be mostly left alone
2. To live in a society where my children can grow up and not get murdered or raped
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>>135610211
Have fun being put to the sword when someone even more radical than you rises to power and decides you're a little too dark for his liking.

Also, you can't make exceptions when you're staging mass genocides. I don't even think someone as based as Ben Carson would support the literal extermination of millions of his own people, so he'd need to be killed too.
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>>135612166
>my children can grow up and not get murdered or raped
Both literally and figuratively right?
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>>135612139
...and you still wouldnt be countering my point.

I have acknowledged that there are corrupt Jews in the USA, so a million pictures with Hexagrams on them wouldnt change my mind.

My point was that in places both in present and past, where there are no Jews you still same same corrupt human traits manifesting them selves.

You didnt provide a single logical argument or a fact to counter that, just "I say that they control things, therefore they do"
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>>135611171
Okay Hillary, have fun declaring war on literally 75% of the world and then tell me if it was worth it to do that instead of just minding your own business. Your stupidity actually amazes me.
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>>135612166
Plenty of places on this planet like that, check countries by their Murder rates. Heck some smaller ones literally have 0.0 yearly murder rate.
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>>135611965
You are suppressing their opinions when, as an authority figure, you prevent them from speaking their minds. Again, reading the post you replied to would help when you apparently missed the part "position of authority".
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>>135612392
>in places both in present and past, where there are no Jews you still same same corrupt human traits
I never suggested it was the joos since inception, rather that from the beginning of international banking there is an obvious pattern.
There is plenty logical arguments in my posts.
Are you suggesting the impact of the international corrupt jew is tiny and insignificant in the grand scheme of modern corruption?
Show me your regional flag please
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>>135612392
People being corrupt doesn't justify having a hostile forigners in your country trying to subvert your people. These are completely different cases
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I want a world in which everyone is free to have opinions and criticize others opinions without people going apeshit.
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>>135612825
He's trying to down play the jews influence whilst hiding behind a flag other than his regional flag
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>>135612941
I too want a place like this in the real world
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>>135612726

Positions of authority refereed to those who run the site, I didnt say nor imply that anyone should be censored, you have dreamed that one up.

Having control over the sites means you can run it however you want, for better or worse.

I've argued for better and free way of doing it, not the opposite.
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>>135613003
He could use a proxy anyway.
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>>135612772

Civilizations in the past were as if not more corrupt and murderous as some are today.

Many different groups were on top during different periods and places, including whites.

I am arguing that you will see this no matter where as long as people arent willing to face the fact that it is your own bullshit that is the cause of this and not constantly blame others.
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>>135613023
Then for that I would agree.
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>>135612825

True, I am not arguing in favor of outside groups bringing ruin to anyone.

But to pretend that corruption of one group is the cause of all evil while other groups do the same, is insanity.
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>>135613003

I liked tree hugger one, I am from Croatia if you truly care that much.

So being fairly familiar with corruption that I see in this area, and utter lack of Jews doing it, I got to question the nonsense that you believe.
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>>135600671
>what do you actually stand for
I don't actually care about shit skins, they chimp out complain about 'oppression' of not being allowed to burn their shit towns down and then go back to causing more harm to themselves than anyone else.

The endless hordes of Moors and Kebabs on the other hand is an actually threat to society and needs to be purged. Also Joseph did nothing wrong, in fact he probably improved Ugandan and Sudan.
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>I am arguing that you will see this no matter where as long as people arent willing to face the fact that it is your own bullshit that is the cause of this and not constantly blame others
Are you suggesting the jews should abandon the 6 gorilllion battlecry theyve used for decades now to pass laws in nations that arent their own?
Oy vey..
Show me your flag, I want to know whos behind this post
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Libertarianism and the ability to be proud of white heritage (not supremacy, although statistical trends do imply racial differences in iq.)
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>>135613434

Happy now?

..and yes the shutting down of debate while hiding behind holocaust is nonsensical. Many other groups in the past have suffered horrible deeds being inflicted upon them, and they dont use it as an excuse to push more bullshit.
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>>135613284
>why are you putting out this house fire while the dog house is also burning
Nobody denies that that corrupt whites exist. The point is that the jew not only works in his own selfish interests, but also seems to work just to spite the goyim. These are completely different issues.
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>>135613395
The jews have used international banking to create a model for geopolitical integration that dismisses the people of the nations involved and pays off the corrupt leaders to execute (((their))) agenda.
Are.you not familiar with the greater israel agenda?
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>>135600671
I am a monarchist, not just here, in everyday life as well. People usually dont take me seriously but whatever I dont really care. Also I am a buddhist and follow the teachings of stoicism (which is very similar to buddhism)
Inb4 hipster
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>>135600671
Exterminate all of the roasties. This is a MGTOW board.
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>>135612440
Everything after that is just gravy. I'd prefer societies where finding a job is easy and I can retain my capital and increase my wealth.
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>>135613662
>greek
>monarchist
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>>135613639

AHahahahah. So they control the entire world just for some shitty plot of rock desert in the Middle-East?

Come on, where are they paying Chinese leaders off? Or Croatian ones, or fucking Chilean ones, or pick any random country.
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>>135613590
>Many other groups in the past have suffered horrible deeds being inflicted upon them, and they dont use it as an excuse to push more bullshit.
Not only have many other groups not used it as and excuse to push more bullshit, but many other groups have also not used it in many other nations that arent theirs
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>>135613710
Yes, so? I dont support the ex king Konstantinos from the Glixburg family cause he was not Greek born(although later hellinized). I would prefer a new king.
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>>135600671
Asian-Aryanism
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>>135613766
Its one of their many schemes. And that rock and its surrounding area is a ideal corridor for oil pipelines to the EU.
Always keep in mind that the jews will stop at nothing to fuck with their enemies, that would include Iran, syria and hezbollah hq in lebanon
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>>135613881
Kings are for cucks desu. If your gonna pick a dictator, you might as well pick the best man for the job rather than some little spoiled faggot that was born into it.
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>>135600671
National socialist, I want my countries former glory returned and Muslim genocide
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>>135613967

Yes they are hostile against their regional enemies, there is still a big jump from that to "they control the whole world".

Also pipeline thing makes little sense, especially with world moving towards electrical energy.

From having some shitty plot of rock desert, to controlling a pipe in a dying industry, all of your reasons dont make much sense.
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>>135600671
I'm a negative utilitarian. Underlore.com is my blog. Just sharing because you asked.
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>>135614201
>Underlore.com

ok i'll take a look.

Also my ID was changed due to dynamic IP swapping, but I am the OP.
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>>135600671
Christian. Not a nazi, communist, socialist, supremecist, fascist, racist, or anything in between.

All political ideologies do are borrow from Christianity, replace God with man, and the various horrors and flavors are what follow
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>>135600671
truth and choice based on informed decision
which is fucked because people demand to be misinformed but still want to decide
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>>135614286

I always wonder why do Christian think so when many of the things seen in Christianity, including the golden rule came from philosophers.

Also when Christianity did rule the Europe, it was called Dark Ages for a reason.
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>>135614082
>yes they are hostile against their regional enemies, there is still a big jump from that to "they control the whole world".
You place quotes around that statement as if I mentioned that somewhere. Thats nt how quotation marks work. I never said that.

>Also pipeline thing makes little sense, especially with world moving towards electrical energy.
No nation will abandon one form of energy for another, especially if war machines need fuel and lubricant.
>all of your reasons dont make much sense.
Surely you aren't suggesting that there is NO conflict in the middle east and that Israel has no involvment.
If you really believe the jews are absolutley absent from any example of corruption anywhere in the world than youre truly misguided.
Tell me, how independent from international politics do you believe Croatia to be?
Are you looking for solutions to your nations struggles?
What are some solutions you've conjured up soo far?
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>>135610211
Just sterilise anyone with a IQ below 95
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>>135614286
Proof that the eternal cuckstain has always been the enemy of evropa.
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>>135614009
Where do you stand on the toilet question?
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>>135614767
Top kek
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>>135614488

-Then tell me what do you believe if you dont believe that they control the world? That is the impression I got from you when you try to blame everything on them.

-Yes fossil fuels will be abandoned in the coming decades, it is only matter of technological progress.

-Yes they do have heck of a lot of involvement with middle eastern conflicts just as Saudi Arabia does. There was a conflict on the Balkans, which was perpetrated by the locals here, as there were/are many other conflicts around the world.

-I dont believe politicians are independent, at least not for the most part. Same goes for the places where you cant point to any jews controlling the corrupt politicians.
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>>135614524
What is your IQ?
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>>135614767
>falling for the porcelain jew
Wew
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>>135601470
>when it doesnt suit them?
Exactly. The authorities must operate on objective truth and be held to account because otherwise you end up with corruption. On a personal level you can adhere to the truth while also doing what you want to do anyway.
> Isnt this a fundamental flaw in the humans themselves?
No. It is not a "fundamental" flaw but a persistent one. It may fall into becoming "fundamental" to a way of life in the future but i don't want this. This is why i stand against it and for objective truth.
Being in a state does not constitute the truth so even if society does go in this direction it doesn't mean there is not an objective thruth but simply one that is not followed.
The Native Americans found that out. We try to assure ourselves of the truth everyday to avoid the fate of the dinosaurs or environmental disaster.
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>>135600671
Goyim exist only to serve Jews as slaves. Goyim were only born to serve us. Without that they have no place in the world. Only to serve the people of Israel. Why are gentiles needed? They are only here to work. They will work, they will plow. They will reap. We will sit like effendi and eat. That is why gentiles were created.
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>>135614870
115
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>>135614845
>places where you cant point to any jews controlling the corrupt politicians
Not controlling, influencing.
I never suggested jews in control. Idk why you continue to imply that.
I'll put together as much as I can for you so that you can have a more informed experience in the future. Hopefully I'll run into you here another day
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>>135615136

Well if anyone is spreading bad influence yet is not in control, then it is the fault of those who are in control for giving in to it. Self-Resposibility is what I advocate for, rather than finger pointing.

Take care man, I doubt I will hang around here much, but this was a fun little discussion we all had.
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>>135600671
for the strong to prosper and the weak to wither away.

the only subsidies I approve of are for free helicopter rides
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>>135614927
>porcelein jew
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I come to watch the in fighting between various groups. I'm indifferent towards the white ethnostate and the white genocide. I just wish to be left alone.
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>>135600671
I don't stand for anything, since the world has nothing worth standing for.
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>>135618105
Are you me? I'm mixed race so I just accepted the fact that I would never be allowed in a white ethnostate anyway. But I followed the movement anyway and quickly realized how insane the infighting is in the alt-right, and from that point on I've just been watching it from the sidelines like it's a really scary soap opera that may or may not put me in physical danger in the future.
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>>135618300
America isn't becoming a white ethnostate. Europe is a different story though
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>>135618300

If shit hits the fan, where would you move?
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>>135618348
What's gonna happen to the US then? The neoliberal globalist Utopia that the deep state has in mind doesn't sound too exciting to me either.
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>>135618539
Wish I could spoiler on this board. I won't disclose what race the half of me that isn't white is, but let's just say there's a certain (((middle eastern country))) that would probably take me in if shit were to hit the fan. I really do sympathize with the white nationalists as I consider myself white first and foremost, but I realized a long time ago that the movement has no place for someone like me, and at this point self preservation is my only real goal. In some ways I almost feel liberated. No need for me to obsess myself over identity politics.
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>>135600671
I want an ethnostate out of America. Anyone with completely European ancestry is allowed. Government is authoritarian when it comes to preserving the culture however very libertarian when it comes to economics and personal liberties (guns, free speech).
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>>135618876

ok, that answers my question, give me the general idea.

I do find it interesting that there are probably quite a lot of people from different races lurking here and are even sympathetic to the white nationalist ideology.
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>>135619115
Did you watch the HWNDU stream by any chance? Literally the largest display of self-hating nonwhites and mongrels you'll ever see. Granted it was New York, but still.
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>>135618300
I am mixed race myself but I am not scared. If anything, I'm just waiting for the far left and far right kill each other while I watch it from the shadows with glee.
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>>135619208

Yes I did, and that gave me the first glimpse that quite a few of /pol/ folks arent white, despite strong white nationalistic rhetoric on here.
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>>135604664
ignoring things that were stolen
>they're retards for not being able to grow crop on their land without realising africa is shit for crops because of the lack of rivers and the mountains meaning few sources of water and infrequent rain
>laugh at them for not building anything more than mudhuts as you're to stupid to realize they're nomadic and constantly farming the same land leads to famine because african soil is actually shit for any source of food that isn't cocoa or cassava
but it sure is beautiful
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