Civil War is about to start in Venezuela.
>TODAY'S HAPPENINGS<
>Bomb goes off in Plaza Francia on Altamira against the Regime's Police Forces.
https://twitter.com/RayliLujan/status/891707028690882560
>GNB speaking that police officers injured in the explosion of earlier suffered burns of all possible degrees
https://twitter.com/AlbertoRT51/status/891823557566705668
>Venezuelan officials killed as the Constituyente's voting process starts.
http://archive.li/8I3iy
>Clashes reported on El Paraíso, Caracas
https://twitter.com/GuarimbaSiHay/status/891627285173854208
>Snipers being deployed on Vegas de Tariba, Táchira.
https://twitter.com/AlbertoRT51/status/891708367235932160
>Venezuelan anon reports paramilitary forces near his house
>>135552533
>>135553028
>Mercosur is now analyzing the Expulsion of Venezuela based on the Ushuaia Protocol by the country's corrupt democratic pillars
https://twitter.com/AlbertoRT51/status/891821510314348544
>EU president says he does not recognize the result of the election
https://twitter.com/AlbertoRT51/status/891821399375040512
>"El Pais" reports that only 7% of the Venezuelans registered to vote went to exercise it.
https://elpais.com/internacional/2017/07/30/actualidad/1501400955_927167.html
>13 yo and 17 yo shot dead by government's forces.
https://twitter.com/AFPespanol/status/891761276631883777
>Tibisay Lucena, CNE's president, just stated that 99% of the population has voted.
[YouTube] Tibisay Lucena: El 99% de la población venezolana está votando
>ANC's candidate José Félix Pineda killed at his home.
>US to impose sanctions against Venezuelan oil industry.
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/891767624186593280
>Video from protests at El Paraíso.
[YouTube] #30Jul El Paraíso en Resistencia contra la Constituyente de Nicolás Maduro en Venezuela
QUICK RUNDOWN (sry for AJ)
https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/891690923779739648
LIVEMAP:
https://venezuela.liveuamap.com/
God bless Venezuela and its people!
Former Thread >>135583390
>>135595120
First
This captcha is promising
DIY weapons for venezolANOS
https://mega.nz/#F!9boggSKQ!XKDJalsQ5BXloQqd4Lq2Gg
>>135595120
Sorry, fucked up the YT links in OP... correction here:
>Video from protests at El Paraíso.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyEYnhNsdz4
>Tibisay Lucena, CNE's president, just stated that 99% of the population has voted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrRc6Xb5964
Are there even enough Chavistas for there to be a Civil War? It looks like 80% or so of the country hates Maduro.
I'm thinking coup looks most likely. There's got to be some generals who are getting tired of these. Or are they all selected from the most loyal cadres?
>>135595120
Venezuelans need to start raiding police stations with knives and other weapons in order to seize weapons for their country.
Firebomb all commieshits.
here to post qts and awnser questions, shoot.
We need more homemade weapons, anon, where you at?
Also, will the ammonia+bleach meme work as a weapon?
SMASH THE RED PLAGUE NOW
>>135595535
>>135595120
>>135595585
One of the most funny things is that Venezuela has more generals than USA.
The military will split and what could happen when the military splits?
>>135595710
>>135595784
Depends, what sides will it split in? What side is bigger?
Also, bumping with DINA
>>135595905
this remind me to metal slug
>>135595689
How big is your dick?
>>135595120
USA's state department has condemned the imposition of a communist constitution and urges other countries in the hemisphere to take action
What do they mean with "action"?
Sec guy in the background on the left reminds me of good old zergface, kek
>>135595905
This is in Lechería not Caracas
i wanna make a stupid question:
Why hasent any country make a militar intervention?
How long until A.N. Boots on the ground?
>>135596223
It's too early for that, and the situation has to escalate more.
>>135595905
Does this qualify as civil war yet?
>>135596223
Venezuela has the biggest military gear stock (discounting Brazil) in Latin America
It does not matter if some of their gear lacks of replacement parts and it's malfunctioning; still their gear is fearsome
>>135596056
like 7 inches idk its thick
>>135596198
Ok, thanks for correction.
>>135596134
Just sanctions probably. The Senate would never approve military action.
>>135596441
It's like Ukraine......
>>135596410
It has nothing to do with that, nobody wants to risk reelection and cause an international furor by invading Venezuela. The government can't control a bunch of disarmed rioters, let alone defend against a well trained and armed invasion force.
>>135595535
the military is pro government.almost all of them are corrupt as fuck and know the moment maduro and company leaves they are fucked.
Here is the STRATEGIC INTELLIGENCE NETWORK
https://4iahqcjrtmxwofr6.onion.to/library.php
RESIST, VENEZUELA!!
>>135595120
Death to commies long live freedom praise Kek
>>135596599
Are you lads Cuba tier yet or can you still get some toilet paper?
>>135596416
How many sacks of rice she costs?
>>135596756
Since today they're continental Cuba
>>135596756
I haven't even food for this week, still waiting for some to arrive in the town.
>>135596942
when was the last time you ate?
OC
Is it any good?
There are fascist Venezuelan groups fighting.
Anyone redpill me on all the factions at play right now?
>>135596877
Are they flooding the border regions of Columbia even more or has Columbia cracked down?
>>135596942
God almighty lad, godspeed. I hope my Venezuelan friend is not in Venezuela right now. Its remarkable you have internet but not food, have you eaten in today? Are people hunting rats, dogs, and cats for food now like most situations like this?
>>135596942
Fucking commies, they wish this on everyone! After shit hits the fan they go into exile to Europe.
>>135596756
>>135596942
What's a decent toilet paper substitute? Newsprint is the best option I can think of at the moment.
>>135597114
Pretty sure that'd kill more people trying to make it than it'd kill communists you throw it at.
>>135596942
Sad man, come to my house if you are white
Is Oscar Perez /ourguy/?
>>135597114
For spanish:
ammonia = amoniaco
bleach = lejía
Llenar 3/4 de la botella (de cristal o vídrio)
>>135597147
People in very very poor countries I have been too simply washed their asses or leafs. I don't think they are quite there yet for the most part. If you have breadlines then newspaper is a luxury.
Anyone got an idea where this is? According to some people on twitter, journalists are getting arrested but I'm not sure what to make of this.
>>135597114
>muh chemical weapons
>deep state makes NATO strike protesters
>>135596384
Maybe
>>135597114
>>135597274
Kek, I love this joke but people in Venezuela might try it lad.
Don't do this. Guys are already starving.
>>135597147
knowing where venezuela is going, their version of pravda will do the job
>>135597140
Colombian officials have traveled to Turkey in order to learn how the later has managed to attend the flow of refugees from Syria and they have stated in a few ocasions that they expect the arrival of at least one million of venezuelans.
Cities near the border are collapsing because in the end our goverment is just inefficient and dumb; one of the most circulating stories is the one regarding to venezuelan sex workers who charge much less than local sex workers, (one example is charging less than 10 dollars)
>>135596410
>implying that scares the US
It's a matter of relevance. Shit would really need to pop off in Venezuela for us to feel it was worth getting involved to the point of military intervention.
Why the fuck do we have all those international organizations for? There must be like a dozen organizations for Latin American peace, cooperation, and they are doing nothing to stop the violence? It just goes to prove that such organizations are merely to drain money and give jobs to leftist bureaucrats.
>>135597147
Or take a shower?
>>135597025
I just finished eating pancakes made with homemade flour with bananas
>>135596942
So you're literally waiting on a government ration or else you starve, but at the same time can afford internet and a computer?
Communism, not even ONCE.
>>135597516
The only deterrent is the domestic political ruckus it would cause
>>135597138
The Government and their guns vs. Not the government. The "not the government" side ranges from dissenting chavistas to far right nationalists. Most of the opposition is center left though.
>>135597516
that would scare usa, there are many parallels to the syrian conflict
>backing of russia, china, iran
>former commie officers out there (i.e. cubans)
>guerrilla forces willing to support the regime (farc, eln just like hezbollah)
>neighbor governments who do not cooperate fully (colombia)
Again, this web has 22 Gb of data, guides, photos and manuals on basically everything. I think it has manuals to build and use guns.
https://4iahqcjrtmxwofr6.onion.to/library.php#
(this is not a TOR site, it is a copy on the internet)
>>135597292
> If you have breadlines then newspaper is a luxury.
A government that wants to stay alive will make sure the propaganda keeps flowing. My concern is that they'll switch over to electronic means. Phones are superior to print delivery in every way but ass-wiping.
>>135597399
Good point.
>>135597759
>.onion
>>135596384
Do you remember how the US denied that Iraq was in civil war?
I think right before a civil war people say it isn't a civil war.
>>135597750
>implying colombia doesn't do exactly what the US wants 100% of the time
And the US military has been involved in Syria since day one so that's a horrible example.
>>135597819
noticed the .onion.to IDIOT?
.TO is a fucking normal top level domain faggot
>>135597485
I don't know if Colombia can stop them, but once the shooting stops and they go below two meals a day things are going to get hairy. I hope they block off the border soon before it is too late.
>>135597551
The issue is that soap is more available than toilet paper in most cases but it is still very scarce in bad places like that. Very very scarce. You can get sick if you aren't careful then a lack of medical supplies could kill you.
>>135597585
Are people hunting pets and rats?
>>135597797
I'm saying most people won't have tons of it if things get really really bad.
>>135597759
this is valuable info thanks lad
>>135597933
.to lets you use .onion without other programs
>>135597840
Our left wing media will go on not admitting it as long as possible since it's also admitting the total failure of a socialist regime.
How much can I purchase a Venezuelan qt for?
>>135597933
Tonga is a weird place.
>>135597986
Not really but sort of.
>>135597551
Yeah, because they're running low on water but their indoor plumbing infrastructure is just fine.
>>135596942
I understand you can cash out dollars easily, there is any way I can send you some?
>>135596384
As soon as we arm the rebels
>>135597900
No
Colombia not always comply fully with what USA asks
One little example, the guerrillas demanded to stop air spreading their coca crops with glyphosate in order to "broker a peace deal", the colombian government accepted and now Trump has sent the message to start spreading them again... but the colombian cabinet insists in not spreading
That "colombia does what USA orders" is an old latinamerican commietard meme
>>135595120
>The want democracy
>don't want people to vote
HAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
La Constituyente si va ;^)
>>135597394
There was another hoax in /b/ like the ammonia bleach one, it was something like...
>Get plastic bottle
>Get pool cleaner soap
>Get some kind of alcohol with isopropilic shit
>Pour all in plastic bottle
It made a timebomb made with fire that cannot be extinguished with water
Any pics? It was baited as a cool coloured shit on a bottle
>>135598027
Maybe, but there are benefits of a civil war. You get an easy scape goat on the other side.
>>135597147
I take a shower after.
>>135597147
water
>>135598185
kill this kind of commies
>Shots fired on the streets in Maracaibo Av. El Milagro
https://twitter.com/equinteroVV/status/891858555426533376
>>135598065
Strangely some places have access to at least clean water but not toilet paper because of inability to import. I think they probably have to do that.
>>135598047
To keep or for a fuck? I don't think they are selling them but <10 bucks for a fuck likely.
>>135598185
weak bait la'
>just cause: real life edition is about to begin
oh boy
>>135598185
The constituyente is an illegal process because it doesn't follow the constitution.
Kill yourself.
>>135598185
Si te encanta tanto el progresismo, porque no te vas a vivir a cuba, bolche puto?
>>135598241
So toilet paper and soap are very scarce, right? Are people eating cats and dogs?
>>135598406
They were eating zoo animals and rats. They moved beyond cats and dogs.
>>135598184
>but the colombian cabinet insists in not spreading
Then the Colombian cabinet is lying.
Sec forces (Nat. Guard?) storming a hotel
>>135598471
I'm wondering how far they will get before they snap. North Koreans and Soviets would mix a bunch of sawdust and the inner parts of trees into bread and stews for a filling effect. I am wondering if they are at that stage yet.
>>135598185
>>135598498
>lying
what do you mean with that?
>>135598093
you can send me money to paypal [email protected]
I could buy some food that can be found in the black market, but that's more expensive, i really thank you for your help, i'm not lying if i tell you i'm weeping, god bless you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgccCFpNQ_Y
Would a Venezuelan uprising dethrone the one in Ukraine? We need better reporters when that happens for all the badass photos
>>135598734
How much does a week's worth of food cost you?
How do Venezuelan girls age?
Mexican girls can be BOMBSHELLS but are horrid by the time they're 25.
I'm just thinking. When the inevitable Venezuelan Refugee Crisis hits, I wonder if I should be on the lookout for a cutie Venezuelan girl.
But I don't want a cutie Venezuelan girl if she's going to be awful looking by the time she's 25.
>>135598734
>and yet he is in 4chan...
I don't like commies, but you are a degenerate cunt.
Puto alcahuete
>>135598610
Might be a little easier because they don't have to deal with the cold weather. Still it isn't good. Civil War is inevitable now.
>>135598283
Do it yourself lad ;)
>>135598334
I'll nationalize this meme, thanks comrade
>>135598359
Yeah no, it's happening right now and the people went out to vote
>>135598359
Porque ya en Cuba hay socialismo, hay tareas que hacer en toda Latinoamérica camarada.
https://topeteglz.org/2017/07/30/el-narcotraficante-uribe-velez-pide-invadir-venezuela-por-la-democracia/
LOL, they got defeated so HARD that the military option is the last card they wanna play
What does a Happening look like from the inside?
>>135598839
>>135598914
>Topete a source
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>135598551
That's the CONAS, the counter extortion and counter kidnaping branch of the National Guard. They've been raiding (without warrants) apartment complexes for the past few weeks. They take suspected protesters hostage and sometimes they kill their dogs.
>>135598406
Soap and toilet paper is scarce, some people just buy paper towel but is way more expensive than buying toilet paper, most people just prefers to buy food instead of paper towel
>>135598185
>>135598839
>>135598932
Some guy makes power armor and attacks a big crowd with a mini gun and gets away. Nobody believes the survivors. Kind of like that.
COMMIE SCUM
>>135598867
Venezuelans are very different from mexicans
carib genes >>>> aztec genes
>>135598909
Are they stealing tires?
>>135598867
I might be a bit opinionated, but Venezuelan women got that fountain of youth gene.
>>135599185
They are looking for food in the trash bags
>>135599185
Searching food in the trast of Telesur
>>135599022
That's sad. Do they raid / "confiscate" any supplies they find in those apartments too?
>>135599036
What is source of water and sewage for most people? Municipal? Has it been cut?
>>135598867
venezuelan girls usually reach 35-45 with an ok body... then they die.
>>135599036
I mean, unless there is also scarcity of running water, couldn't you just take a shower after taking a crap? And buy food instead of fucking toilet paper?
>>135598914
>it's legal because they are doing it lol
Again: Kill yourself.
>>135599157
In your opinion what Central American / South American sub-races have the most longevity when it comes to health and beauty?
I mean, I'm fine with the idea of marrying a Colombian girl, or Brazilian girl, or Paraguayan girl, or whatever.
I just really want a girl that's still got a bikini body when she's 40.
>>135599265
Well the fountain of youth is supposed to be in South America.
>>135598206
>>135597114
>>135597394
Better version right here
Enjoy your explosive timebomb
>>135599371
>taking the bait from an colombian commie
>>135599013
>Topete a source
>vid is filmed by Uribe Velez
LOL
People making lines to vote since 6 a.m.
"WHY ARE THERE SO MUCH CHAVISTAS REEEEEEEEE"
>>135599306
Most likely
>>135599377
Taino girls
i.e. puerto ricans, dominicans and maybe venezuelans
>>135597759
>>135597980
>>135597819
FYI, using onion.to just reveals your IP to your isp/govt like any other clearnet site. Better off using tor and forgoing onion.to, especially if your govt is a little overbearing.
Thread music:
https://youtu.be/g0WB-ZYWx30
>>135599445
But I like taking baits I wanna see how far they go
RESULTS HERE NOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S64ITLlWkM
>>135595293
>>135599577
let me guess: 80% in favor of Maduro
>>135599577
fuck cucuta is going to be an even bigger shithole now
>>135599577
>>135596942
best of luck to you anon
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/06/hugo_chavezs_economic_miracle/
lol
>>135599316
Municipal, I have water in my house only 3 days per week. We need to buy water to fill our tanks storages when it runs out sooner or when it just doesn't come when it must have came.
>>135599655
prepare for your city to flock with at least 10 thousand more venezuelans, except if you're in the caribbean or the pacific coasts
>>135599735
Archive time https://archive.is/924V0
>>135599445
This, Topetefags are the worst kind of human beings in the world.
Acording to Topete, USA is everything to fault and Israel, but don't be anti-semitic saying "Hitler was right", he will block you.
>>135599371
>"omg the vote of the opposition is valid because we, as the spanish government said so xD"
>the Catalan referendum? that shit is illegal, and if they do it we will go with tanks to Barcelona
lol
It's funny, even the gringos are starting to realize how ""peaceful"" are these thugs
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-venezuela-opposition-militants-20170724-story.html
>>135599577
Who is she?
<---
LMAO 8.9 millions what a sham. This is fraud in levels no one has seen before.
>>135599577
8 MILLONS
8 MILLONS
8 MILLONS
8 MILLONS
8 MILLONS
8 MILLONS
>>135595689
How many people in Venezuela support Maduro, and how many oppose him? 70-30? 50-50?
>>135599577
will this cause you guys to go full Ukraine now?
Opposition are terrorist mercenaries paid for by America just like in Syria against Assad. I hope Maduro gasses and slaughters these subhuman "opposition". Fuck all you /pol/tards who support the American terrorists.
>>135599577
WTF I LOVE MY COUNTRY NOW
>>135599577
>""""""8000000"""""
sooo pinochet 2.0 maduro is better in the ocean than in land when?
>>135599857
85 oppo - 15 gubmint
>>135599799
she cooks the election results
>>135599857
latest official ( gob approved ) polls show less than 20%
>>135599907
He just threw the pole in!
>>135599832
this is obviously a fraud of unimaginable magnitudes
what a fucking circle, the first time since 1957 a electoral fraud is committed, as it was during a dictatorship back then.
>>135599796
>>"omg the vote of the opposition is valid because we, as the spanish government said so xD"
No, it's illegal because it doesn't follow the constitution. Why are you mentioning Cataluña if we're talking about Venezuela?
>8 gorillion votes
Each chavista voted four times, not even Putin does this kind of shit, am not even mad, am impressed at what degree of FRAUD they went for
Am sure KADIROV couldn't get such 99% of the vote this much
>8 Millions
>Not a fucking fraud
>>135599755
they don't know how to climb and even with that they wouldn't come to popayan anyway.
i bet cali is going to have a lot more prostitutes to kill now.
This is a soros style color revolution but this time it uses right-wing instead of left b/c Trump is president
and /pol/ is part of the psyop of course
I don't understand why all these cucks only use rocks, slingshots, and fireworks when fighting against the police/military?
Why don't they go and shoot up the homes of the police, kill their families.
If you wanted to demoralize the police, you'll want to make them stay home. Right now all you are doing is LARPing as revolutionaries.
>>135595689
Can i has one of those qts?
They realized that alt-right is the new "counterculture" so they dressed up the next color revolution in alt-right symbolism and you're eating it up
What were the results?
>>135599749
What kind of tank do you have? I assume the pressure is really low when the water turns on? Do you collect rain water? Wouldn't be hard to make a filter.
Best of luck to any Venezuelanons here. This is looking more and more like Kiev by the day
>>135600092
No guns f.am
>>135600016
because local commies likes to divert the subject when they are running out of option
>>135600073
But Soros support Maduro, Chavez had ties with Clinton even. Selling oil in lower prices to USA is good until Saudi Arabia fuck you in the ass.
>>135600065
A lot more of grills for the niggers there to fuck
Reminder to give morale to the revolutionaries of Venezuela by posting bomb emojis on youtube chat
>>135599999
Quints of truth!
Sorry we're not going to free you because Noam Chomsky will call is imperialists.
>>135596136
>>135599777
>https://archive.is/924V0
Checked , you are doing gods work son , god hates commies.
>>135596410
Only someone ignorant of military matters would say something so stupid.
Yes, Venezuela has one of the largest airforces in Latin America. Half of them are Block A F-16s that can't fly due to lack of spare parts (the US put an embargo on them more than a decade ago due to Venezuela sharing the technology with Iran) and they have SU-30s that can't even fly because their government cannot afford the fuel costs and spares either.
Superior training and superior missile weaponry have when taken together a geometric effecy over all military strenght.
Most airforces in LatAm could crush Venezuela's simply due to the fact that they get regular training, spares, and access to superior American missiles and avionics.
Is Maduro not the good guy here? He's calling for a new constitution to replace the 1999 one made under Hugo Chavez. All the other major opposition leaders are liberals too. Help?
>>135599577
PLEASE DO A JFK
KILL HIM
>>135599999
impressive digits
8 millions is the same Chavez got in 2012.
Is highly unlikely today
>>135599980
It's the truth retard. We saw all of this play out in Syria against Assad. Textbook CIA tactics for removing legitimate governments. But keep being a good American retard and gobbling your country's shit up.
>>135600286
indeed
>>135600092
>lol why no guns tho?
Not america, here you actually need special permissions to get guns n shiet
>>135600092
As the other guy said, they have no guns. And so the government can send it's hired thugs to kill with impunity.
This is why the Second Amendment is gold.
>Time it took Syria to go from protests to war: 136 Days
>Time it took Ukraine to go from protests to war: 135 Days
>Time passed since protests started in Venezuela: 121 Days
What other more modern civil wars are there?
MADURO WILL SPEAK HERE NOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S64ITLlWkM
Guys, some of you are alright, dont go to Venezuela tomorrow
>>135600092
>implying authoritarian regimes are ok with/allow private gun ownership
>>135600092
They are socialists so they stole all their guns and their rights to have them. If you told Americans to go stand in breadlines you, your family, and your dog would be shot.
Dumping homemade weapons
>8 gorillion chavistas vote
>25% of the country
>>135600474
>>135596233
Goddamn EA killing my favorite games. UP did nothing wrong.
>>135600523
>>135600396
>inb4 Oscar Perez shows up an assassinates him
"Tenemos asamblea constituyente" - Maduro
"La constityente llegó de la mano de un pueblo"
"Ocho millones largos en medio de las amenazas".
HAHAHA Maduro es muy bruto. Dijo que habían unos que habían votado en contra de las balas de los paramilitares. ¿NO sabe él que los paramilitares son chavistas?
>>135600160
Pressure is really really low, but we have a hydropneumatic system that help the water system to have pressure.
i don't collect water, it barely rains where i live
>Trump drones Maduro
>>135600475
i think they count only the population eligible to vote
>>135600321
The 1999 Constitution is a liberal constitution (in the classical sense of the word) Chávez hadn't begun to show his extreme commie shit by then. This Constitution is sure to cement the communal state in Venezuela, and to finally consolidate a one party system and that kind of nasty shit.
>>135600092
No one will side with you.
>>135600398
chuckl'd
so, yeah, I've seen the slide thread by the commies on how socialism is definitely not to b;lam for venezuela's current fiasco, but can a venezuelanon answer directly: what role has socialism played in the current habbenings?
>>135600542
>>135600382
DRC, Central African Republic, Sudan/South Sudan, Liberia,
>>135600348
DELETE THIS
>>135600609
>>135597313
Are they using fireworks?
>>135600396
what is the voting population in Venezuela? Is supossed to be 8 millions of voters, yet there is very little people on that meeting
>>135600316
No
The country closest to Venezuela with some kind of air force is Colombia, and it consists of shitty IAI Kfirs; infantry alone (the most of colombian army) cannot do the job and politically no one in Colombia would support an invasion
Brazilians also would not support an invasion and their airfields are far away from Venezuela.
That lets America as the only one with the capacity of intervening but they're fully concentrated in the middle east
>>135599999
Checked , long live freedom fuck socialist faggots that want to be statecucks , literally shit eaters that live by the remains of the parasite vampire socialist class , fuck them all.
>>135600654
>>135600321
The options are a fucking idiot who didn't understand how Chavez used to manage the country (Maduro) vs Globalists. Nationalists don't have anything because they don't have a figure to who fight for. IMO there is no winner in this scenario, but I would prefer Maduro instead of another Syria.
>>135598734
Sólo vienes al Internet a dar lástima y a pedirle plata a extranjeros?
Me das pena, marico. Aprende a hacerte tus dolares por internet.
>>135600599
>The 1999 Constitution is a liberal constitution (in the classical sense of the word) Chávez hadn't begun to show his extreme commie shit by then. This Constitution is sure to cement the communal state in Venezuela, and to finally consolidate a one party system and that kind of nasty shit.
so Venezuela is going to end like Cuba, NK and china with the dictatorship of the single political party.
>>135600710
Hey faggots -keep in mind i don't like commies. but, doesn't this feel like Ukraine again?
>>135600382
lybia
almost egypt
>>135598283
Kill ALL kinds of commies
>>135600728
This , stop asking for free bitcoins , start fighting for your freedom , now the commies will do what they always do and start a famine to get rid of undesirables , you got a month maybe two of life if you dont fight back.
>>135600599
Understood, I know Maduro is shit, only said that for replies.
>>135600708
>That lets America as the only one with the capacity of intervening but they're fully concentrated in the middle east
and we wouldn't anyway.
>>135599653
Just like the opposition referendum when they burned all the ballouts after they counted them.
SO VALID XD
>Nobody will go out and vote, everybody hates MaDuRo XD
>>135600664
Yes, they have no other gunpowder projectiles.
>people using meme flags to shill for Maduro
we all know you're being paid in toilet paper, stop hiding
>>135597597
Sometimes is not about the money but the lack of food, in my town, I haven't seen a bread, for example, since almost 6 or 7 months
>>135600745
>>135600747
See this >>135600219
Source: Search in Podesta/Hillary Emails in Wikileaks, a lot of meeting with Socialist leaders in the region like Michelle Bachelet, Kischner and Dilma, the one who praise Maduro right now.
>>135600592
How do you use a pressure system with municipal water? Like a vacuum to suck in more water or to keep pressure in your house?
>>135599907
Give proofs. Even if true, who cares? It's a bunch of nationalists overthrowing commies.
> Fuck all you /pol/tards who support the American terrorists.
>caring about non american countries
>>135600728
>Consiguete tu plata solo
>alguien que voto a favor de la constituyente
>>135600668
19 millions were able to vote.
Not way 41% of the electoral turnout voted today, probably only 41% among chavistas, but they don't even represent half of the electoral turnout. Luckily they got 20% of participation. Measures must be taken now the fraud has been consolidated.
>>135600357
>Socialist using security and armed militiamen to suppress opposition with violence
>legitimate
Why is the 8 million votes number considered an obvious fraud?
>>135600668
Because they didn't get 8 million by any stretch of the imagination.
>>135600668
17 millones aprox
>>135601003
No vote por la constituyente, mi querido negro de Costa Rica.
Sólo me dan ardor de culo los Venezolanos que vienen a Internet a dar lástima a ver si les sueltan algunos dólares, pudiendo ellos por su cuenta hacerse dólares mediante cosas como Humanatic o siendo Freelancer.
>>135600873
as a friend in Anzoategui told me: we already accepted our fate so even going to vote will not make a difference
>>135600357
>socialists
>legitimate
DO IT AGAIN CIA
>>135600609
Pro tip.
Don't use soap and gasoline for napalm.
Use Styrofoam and gasoline.
Much cheaper, waste product, and makes it thick.
>>135600926
That's what I'm pointing out, state control of production creates shortages because the price and quota fixers can never adjust fast enough to match variable supply and demand.
>>135601161
This is some interventionism I could get behind. As long as we take the oil
>>135600357
>Textbook CIA tactics for removing legitimate governments
You mean like the legitimate parliament of Venezuela Maduro has extra-legally marginalized?
>>135595522
SOCIALISM YES
>>135601213
Oh also the benzene in the gasoline will dissolve the gasoline without any applied heat. Heating gasoline has to be one of stupidest recommendations ever.
>>135600357
>We saw all of this play out in Syria against Assad.
thats why the Venezuelan goverment has already win the propaganda war
"Los opositores no las tienen bien puestas" - Maduro
>>135601363
>You mean like the legitimate parliament of Venezuela Maduro has extra-legally marginalized?
duh, CIA clearly manipulated the situation to force him into doing that, comrade.
>CIA goes spaghetti with Allende because socialistz
>Does nothing with Maduro
Why?
>>135598734
please dont give this fucker any money, hell just buy a phone and get some new clothes, do not give any venezuelan money online unless he shows you he really needs it
>>135600999
We have the storage tank then the hydropneumatic bomb sucks water from it and distribute it to the pipeline
>>135601070
>>135601104
una mujer venezolana trabajaba para mi hermano y dejo su trabajo aqui en Mexico para ir a Venezuela a pararse en contra de la constituyente, ella decia que la consigna es convencer a la gente no salir a votar
YA TUMBEN AL PUTO DE MADURO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anons, remember. As much as we all despise people like Maduro, the police on the ground are people too. They have families that they're trying to feed.
Obviously it is hard to empathize with National Guardsmen who shoot dead teenagers, etc. but just look at things like this webm from Ukraine.
Policeman likely beaten to death by rebels. He didn't appear to be one of those that was shooting. He was likely just put out there with a shield and a baton.
just keep this in mind
>>135601515
bc now they are the commies
Leftism , not even once.
>8 million
lol get fucked CIA shills
>The CIA is behind what's happening right now in Venezuela
lol, OK
Doesn't smell like that to me.
This shit is organic
>>135601614
I agree with this.
>URGENT - CRISIS IN VENEZUELA: Maduro: "Today we broke record, people of 95, 98 years fulfilled the country."
holy shit
>>135601075
He didn't even get that number in the election where he was elected. Just after Chávez died. Now the situation is a hundred times worse and his popularity is through the floor. Most electoral centers were empty most of the day. It's fraud all around. We know it, they know it, and they know that we know that they know it.
>>135595522
its strange but, having police lights on top of cars really made me feel like it was just a ruse, actually enemy force attempting to appear as a "justice"
>>135600357
The fact and proof are diferent now. We know that FSA are ISIS and Al-Qaeda, we know that Assad actually cared for the people and actually winning, despite the media said, we know that the Chemical Attacks are bullshit and we know that Aleppo is better now under SAA control that FSA/HTS control.
What fucking proof do you have that Venezuela is the same that Syria?
>>135601075
Maduro himself only got 7.5 in 2013 at the highest peak of his popularity if that helps
>>135601689
>People that is gonna die within ~5 to 7 years voting and ruining the future of our young people even further
I'm mad. M A D.
>>135601614
Always kill a traitor before an enemy, no exceptions.
>>135601706
It's a shame you can't filter 8 million votes defeating your sorry ass opposition
>>135597146
They should be hung by the neck till dead.
>>135601739
>Most electoral centers were empty most of the day
you will have to prove that because RT and some dudes her are shilling hard posting photos from electoral center full of people
>>135601614
>Put this shit mentality on war
It doesnt work, you can't stop killing those against you because muh morality
>>135601754
Syria is destroyed and irrelevant now. The refugees even slowed from there.
BETTER DEAD THAN RED
>>135599335
Water is also scarce in that country. People are going to springs and rivers to get water for drinking and bathing. There is literally a shortage of everything there.
How long until we get to play CoD: Venezuela though?
>Congolombians posters supporting Maduro
>Congolombians supported a lot Hillary Clinton in the elections in 2016
>>135602047
Far Cry 6
>>135602028
Except bleach, for real.
>>135602047
We already got CoD:BO2 with Noriega, why not get one with Maduro?
>>135601515
Allende was a commie
that was back when we used to care about commies
i miss caring about/killing commies
also, you're welcome.
"Y levantarle la inmunidad parlamentaria a quien haya quien levantársela"- Maduro
>>135601515
Cold War's over. Believe me, the CIA niggers would love to overthrow Maduro (then import the refugees) but they lack the political power to do it.
>>135601919
Not yet, wait till SAA reach Deir Ezzor and McCain will shit again about Trumo doing nothing about Syria again.
>>135601614
the police could stand down you know. these are cops, sworn to protect people. instead they're told to point their guns at crowds of starving, unemployed masses. that's bullshit. i don't know if the wind could shift with the police in venezuela but they're a mercenary horde and nothing more at this point.
>>135602112
kek
>>135602095
Not me, m8
Sure, there are lots of commies and leftards in Colombia, but not all of us are like that
Look at that crowd in the stream. It's incredible how socialists and commies always act like religious fanatics. They truly have to reprogram their brains to accept their bullshit and defend it with doublethink.
>>135602095
USA support Colombia with huge amount of shekels since i have memory so it's obvious for them to support hillary
>>135595120
GO VENEZUELA NUKE USA
>>135595120
>El Pais
>CNN
Fuck globalist, HANDS OFF VENEZUELA SONS OF WHORES
uma delicia
>>135602223
>18 years of political indoctrination in the police and army
keep dreaming m8
>>135602028
>largest oil reserves in western hemisphere
>year round growing season
>subtropical rainfall
>shortages
Is this...the power of gommunism?
>>135602265
>>135602336
Are colombians the next Jew meme?
>>135602233
Sounds like the AUC needs to get crackin'. Commie don't kill themselves.
>>135602336
Socialism and communism are globalist systems you stupid spic.
>>135602411
Its the power of economic war you massive RETARD no one wants in Venezuela piece of shit
Hey, what about the import that Venezuela never paid to Kischner in 2013? And about how Dilma washed money to support Chavez campaing back in 2013 throught Petrobras? And ARCIS university and the finaced plane of Marco Enriques Ominami by the same Petrobras in Chile? Sure i will just keep shut up and watch how you win, commie rats
>8 millions
We did it lads
thanks to pol's donations i got out, love you guys
>>135602411
Communism ruins everything it touches, much like Islam.
>>135601614
Sure. But they're the political representation of the will of the state. Comes with the territory; there's nothing stopping them from joining the protesters.
I'm not saying you should torture them or cause unnecessary harm, but when the state is repressing the citizens, it's the police that put the policies in action.
OMG is somebody listening Maduro? He is going full dictator. He is saying he will kick the fiscal
>>135602452
>Jew
Venezuela is fighting against them you stupid retard thats why globalist media is against chavism
>>135595432
Thanks bro. Have family in Caracas. Awesome seeing this knowledge being spread. We need to remind the world why the 2nd amendment exists.
>>135601891
RT is pure unfiltered propaganda. Look arround these hastags
https://twitter.com/hashtag/CentrosVac%C3%ADos?src=hash&lang=en
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ConstituyenteFracasoEvidente?src=hash&lang=en
Keep in mind that non propaganda news outlets couldn't get closer than 500 meters from any electoral center.
>>135602552
(((8QHAU5ZL)))
>>135602345
>uma delicia
Fuck off leaf
Guys I want to die.
I'm going to have to kill my cats and leave the country. Lose my house, the house that I grew up in. Lose my things, the things that hold all my memories. Lose my business, the business my parents created together. I'm going to have to move somewhere else with no home, no job security. Not having a stable home and secure income are my deepest and biggest fears, and now they've come true.
I don't want to leave my home.
>>135602472
Thats why Chavez nationalized foreign companies, Retard, GET THE FUCK OUT OF VENEZUELA STAY IN YOUR SHITHOLE
>>135602552
>communists
>fighting against kikes
Why are spics so dumb?
>>135602551
and taking away the MP's parliamentary immunity
>>135595120
I hope they kill all the communists and never try that crap again. All the mestizo nations need to learn that communism isn't good already. There is a reason why people try to get out of communist countries but never in. Communism ruins everything it touches, just like Islam. Both are shit and thoroughly destructive and antithetical to civilization and freedom.
>>135602551
You clearly don't watch our news everyday
>>135602655
Shut up
>>135602542
agreed. I've no problem with people fighting back. I actually enjoy it. But it's things like seeing policemen getting bludgeoned with bricksin Kyiv that put it in perspective.
>>135602634
Oh ask some gringo here if they will recieve you in their houses AHAHAHAHAHAA
>>135602504
the international and commies will support each other to the end for the global revolution. that's why they version of "sovereignty" is only applied when another country with a diferent type of govermenet talk abut them.
>>135602477
Not true, you wanted daddy USA look Venezuela with lower prices since 2001, but Saudi Arabia rape Venezuela in the ass back in 2013-2014 when they sunk oil princes to historic minimals.
Keep crying about "Muh USA Muh CIA", you wanted a Economic War with Oil, this is what you get when the only thing you can do is export whores and socialism.
so it's time for us to close the border before cucuta gets destroyed ?
>>135602655
Wow commie kikes love to steal? Who'd have thought.
>>135602668
>Why spics are so dumb
Says the scum of the planet ahahahaha
>>135601754
You know nothing. You're just talking out of your ass and using idiotic arguments to push for massive cognitive dissonance.
You can't have it both ways. Either the people opposing the govt in Syria and Venezula are bad or they're not. The differences behind them is largely irrelevant. What matters is the fact that they're both facing authoritarian govts and they're both being supported by America.
>Salty Colombians in the thread
Truly the Mexicans of South America.
"Emperor Donald Trump" hahahaha
>>135602716
Shut up Vendepatrias motherfuckers
>>135602810
Sounds like the AUC needs to pay you a visit.
>>135601392
They've won the propaganda war because some retard meme flagger on 4chan blames all of Venezuela's problems on the US? Even the crypto Marxist EU condemned the election.
some1 make a new thread
>>135602738
MIKE POMPEO SAID IT YOU STUPID FUCK, US LOVES WHORES DONT PROJECT RETARD
>>135602861
Vendepatrias your fucking mother, I don't want any fucking gringo nor I want these stealing bastards in charge
>>135602735
Commies = Jews
And not, Assad isn't socalist, Baath Party and Syria have National Socialist ideas, see how even in war they keep saving the private onwership of the people who produces oil/gas in Syria, hell, they even have a fucking market where you can invest.
how come no one has never tried to escape from a capitalist country?
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>>135602804
Says the retard who steal resources of innocent countries all over the world, Shut The Fuck Up
>>135601515
Because the Soviets aren't trying to take over the whole planet anymore. Domino theory is no longer in effect. Also Friedman is dead.
>>135602634
Well you speak English. At least you got that.
Ignore lefty Colombians in these thread. They are probably larping to shitpost
>>135602818
>The differences behind them is largely irrelevant.
>being this retarded
>>135602477
1. Grow food
2. Starve and blame USA
Which one does Venezuela choose?
Calling it now, nothing is going to happen. The US doesn't want to intervene, and the Venezuelan culture and situation don't lend themselves to war right now. This is Maduro's bet, that he can just strong-arm his way around a failing democratic culture forced on the country by the US.
It's the exact same here except the communists lost.
>>135601614
We're talking about civil war ya retard
>>135595120
shit will hit the fann veeery soon. :S
>>135602988
Too stupid to escape to anywhere else
>>135602888
Criminals, terrorists and rapists just like traitors like it
>>135602861
> Vendepatrias
what happen when Goldman Sachs Group bought $ 2.8 billion in bonds to PDVSA with a discount of 70% of the real price of the bonds
>>135603000
Fairly sure the only reason your shithole of a country has food is because we give you cash for your shitty oil. But if you prefer that we steal it that can certainly be arranged.
>>135602950
Cry more bitch, suck Aznar dicks
>>135602477
>economic war
Socialist policies?
>>135602818
Shut up and pay a visit to /sg/, reddit.
>>135602552
>(((Venezuela))) is fighting against (((them)))
>(((8QHAU5ZL)))
>>135603039
>Starve
I see what CNN did there piece of shit
>>135599999
:thinking:
>>135603091
To further elaborate, what is the venezuelan opposition? That social democratic cuck? That's not real opposition in any sense of the word, real opposition would look more like Pinochet.
All I see is a bunch of probably more-or-less well-intentioned US cucks.
>>135603198
he is using the Allende card
>>135601515
CIA is full of commies now
I forget which one of our intelligence chiefs voted for a communist candidate back in the 1970s
>>135602818
What sophistry you faggot
Syria=govt that was doing everything right but had opposing governments sponsoring terrorists against them this is with proven facts
Venezuela=incompetent government can't even give its employees toilet paper also no proven support of US to opposition beyond muh concerned diplomatic talk not even news gives much of a shit
>>135603188
You need to stay in your shithole, why cant you stay there i know is a huge piece of shit but stay there Hands Off Venezuela Retard
>>135602861
callate ya puto
>>135603000
Imperialism against other countries is a bit different from robbing your own people
>>135603159
i thought venezuela was communist ahahaha
>>135602709
Christianity ruins everything it touches. Europe had to appeal to pagan past to get better (Renaissance) and then they had to secularize (Enlightenment) to experience the scientific revolution.
And America is not a Christian country. It's a secular state with capitalist tendencies. That's it. Oh and it has great geography which guarantees its security and economic prosperity (most connected inland rivers in added length in the world leads to lots of economic trade within).
Equating communism and Islam together is stupid. One never had a civilization for more than 90 years. The other has been part of civilizations from Ummayds to Abbasids (who had lots of prosperity and advances) to Ottomans and other gunpowder empires.
I just have in mind that we will NOT give up, this has only started to get worst, and they know it, people who was forced and coerced to vote must be sad, it was against their own future they were voting for, it breaks my heart that this votation is only starting the next cycle of protest and even then more people will die, probably their own candidates will die also
i refuse myself to keep this shit going on, once i can't leave my country, i will try to defeat whoever must be defeated. This election wasn't about simply electing parliament but instead electing the people who are deciding for us against us with the motivation they think we deserve it because I think differently as they do.
The majority of venezuelans are disarmed, that hasn't stopped us from protesting, doing what it is needed to do to show the government we are against them, even a plebiscite was held two weeks ago. Seven point five million of people voted against this election. We aren't going to just let this shit happen because it isn't about a government violating the constitutional law but the same citizens who pretend to use this illegal assembly to take away the wealth and everything else my family has just because someone give him a vote in a illegal procedure to install a communist institution.
Government announcement after electoral council provided the results:
Jail for deputies
Seize of the prosecution office
Closure of stores
Closure of TV channel Televen
>>135603314
He must have missed the part where Allende was literally backed by the Soviet Union and KGB was arming the Allende affiliated socialist militias who were assassinating politicians at the time.
>>135603365
>Borderline narco state
>Calling other countries shitholes
top lel
>>135599999
include me in the screencap senpai
>>135603198
Ask the terrorists that the piece of shit USA support, they make "Trancazos" steal food, kidnap people, burn them alive, thats what capitalism do, and a lot of things more like selling keeping Bolivars in Colombia to devaluate it
>>135603525
You guys are so ungrateful. We gave you Spaghettios factories to work in. Show some respect.
>>135603373
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ASK HILLARY CLINTON YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>135596223
Any country, even the US, won't invade Venezuela becuase that can bring the crisis up the roof. The crisis can spread to other countries like Guyana and Colombia, and Cuba, an greatest ally of Venezuela, could intervene that can start a shitshow in the Caribbean region. Venezuela could invade Puerto Rico if their military equipments aren't that old and shitty. However, Venezuela probably has a long-range missiles from Iran when Chavez was in office. So this situation will becomes a Gulf War-like situation.
>>135603451
>Allende was literally backed by the Soviet Union and KGB
local commies will never recognize or avoid talking about it. form them CIA and muh usa will always to blame for EVERYTHING
>>135603371
Callame pues vendepatria mamaguevo
>>135603413
What matters is, do you have the military behind you? Would the people pussy out if the military got orders to start shooting, which I suspect they would?
>>135603525
>buttblasted commie spergs out for entire thread
>instead of accepting reality he tries to blame the failure of gommunism on the USA
>>135603497
Why Trump is sucking along with CIA Colombia's dick to fight against Venezuela if we are a "Narcostate" stay in your piece of shit imperealist shithead
>>135603631
Russia will fuck you up and your Opposition Daesh alike clowns if you attack Venezuela
>>135603253
/sg/ is a shithole with people who keep repeating nonsense inside of their bubble without ever being skeptical about anything. And any debate with their idiotic assumptions is met with hatred as if something holy has been questioned.
/sg/ makes /ptg/ look cute when it comes to personality cult.
>>135603029
You're projecting your stupidity.
>>135603346
>Syria=govt that was doing everything right
They clearly fucked up since a revolution and a civil war took place. And torturing people for protesting while not even being able to contain the blowback is anything but right.
>had opposing governments sponsoring terrorists against them this is with proven facts
Assad was sponsoring Iraqi insurgents. And now he's letting Shia mercenaries from Afghanistan and Pakistan fight in Syria.
>Venezuela=incompetent government can't even give its employees toilet paper also no proven support of US to opposition beyond muh concerned diplomatic talk not even news gives much of a shit
Oh so like Syria? You're arguing my point, retard.
>no proven support beyond muh concerned diplomatic
Like the US with the Syrian opposition before the conflict turned into a civil war. There's obviously CIA involvement. People can't prove it because it's not been revealed. Hindsight is 20/20.
>>135601689
Literally dragged the elderly out to polls to make them vote. Dirty rat fuckers.
>>135603733
I have arguments you have nothing, jewish sodomized whore
The police of Your Country will kill those "peaceful" protesters on sight because they attack with evertyhing against cops and civilians fuck you
Telegram group:
http://t.me/VenezueIaGeneral
that is, Venezuela with a capital i
OC fashwave btw
>>135601391
Yeah.. dont know why anyone would mix gasoline and heat sources. Kerosene on the other hand is much safer and diesel will basically never spontaneously combust. Still, no reason to heat any of them.
>>135603899
>They clearly fucked up since a revolution and a civil war took place.
Hard to stop something happening when the worlds superpower as well as several regional powers want to make something happen
>And torturing people for protesting while not even being able to contain the blowback is anything but right.
Proofs?
>Assad was sponsoring Iraqi insurgents. And now he's letting Shia mercenaries from Afghanistan and Pakistan fight in Syria.
Perfectly just he was worried an out of control US was going to invade him next
Also he can let any brave person he wants fight for the government of Syria
>Oh so like Syria? You're arguing my point, retard
Can you even read and understand the difference between my two points?
>Like the US with the Syrian opposition before the conflict turned into a civil war. There's obviously CIA involvement. People can't prove it because it's not been revealed. Hindsight is 20/20.
No, American support came immediately for the Syrian opposition and armed funding of the opposition was discovered by journalists shortly after it started
You don't even know what you are talking about cunt
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>>135602888
>Protects kikes
>uses a meme flag
(((You)))
>>135603699
Former chief of military intel. said that there isn't a civil war yet but weapons will appears if the constituent is carried.
The constituent was carried, I believe his words. Arms will appear soon.
>>135604536
>Hard to stop something happening when the worlds superpower as well as several regional powers want to make something happen
Fake News. The civil war was started by Assad. Regional actors, the US and Russia only took advantage after that fact.
America never really did care about Syria. Their biggest intervention was to fight ISIS and the extend of their support for Kurds is for that goal. Learn to geopolitics, retard.
>Proofs?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/07/saydnaya-prison-assad-slaugterhouse-amnesty-report-torture-mass-hangings
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/01/alive-surviving-assad-prison-cells-170123085748985.html
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2016/08/syria-torture-prisons/
>Perfectly just he was worried an out of control US was going to invade him next
And he fucked up. He's a retard, like you.
>Can you even read and understand the difference between my two points?
There aren't any relevant difference because you're making a false comparison. There is no civil war in Venuzuala for the CIA to get that involved to the point where their involvement is known by everyone.
>No, American support came immediately for the Syrian opposition and armed funding of the opposition was discovered by journalists shortly after it started
When the civil war started. Which is a 1 year into the conflcit. That's not immediate
The Middle East is too complicated for you, cumskin.
>>135603400
I don't know where to even begin with your regurgitated bullshit.
>Christianity ruins everything it touches
How?
>Europe had to appeal to pagan past to get better (Renaissance) and then they had to secularize (Enlightenment) to experience the scientific revolution.
How so, why? And by Christianity you mean the Catholic Church? By the way, the Catholic Church adopted many of the practices of pagan countries besides having previously adopted a more authoritarian style due to Constantine's influence.
>And America is not a Christian country. It's a secular state with capitalist tendencies
By and large this is correct, but you didn't even point how that's relevant to the argument. Besides, America has ingrained Christian values it's steadily losing while coincidentally, marxism rises.
>Equating communism and Islam together is stupid. One never had a civilization for more than 90 years. The other has been part of civilizations from Ummayds to Abbasids (who had lots of prosperity and advances) to Ottomans and other gunpowder empires.
And just because they have a civilization doesn't mean they're good. Notably, Islamic empires are a seriously SHIT place to be in regardless of time period. You can get stoned for seemingly no reason if the ruler is psychotic enough.
That kind of bullshit fascists et al spew out all the time pisses me off. Those things don't correlate the way you think they do, it's all false generalizations and false claims like how "the bible gave us communism" when in fact, it never advocates for a single tenet of either modern or old communism when you actually read it. It never says trannies are good, it never says it's ok to force other people to give the state their money to be redistributed. The only thing that makes Christianity difficult for fascists is the concept of "might makes right" not existing in the Bible, as well as not worshipping a guy who says he's god. Just because "STATE IS STRONK" that way.
>>135604856
Historical events are already mentioned as evidence. Look them up. Have fun reading.
>>135604856
a follow up: the bible says hate the sin, but love the sinner. It just doesn't say you should fucking stone and kill the sinner, and I believe most people are ok with not stoning or being stoned at will
>>135604958
>Historical events are already mentioned as evidence. Look them up. Have fun reading.
>he says as he justifies his lack of actual arguments
Burden of proof is on you, chum.
>>135604536
And a retard like you only learned fo Syria since 2011. Before that you know nothing of the country. And you don't even know the language to double check sources. See consistency in regime and anti regime claims. Read behind the lines, see the nuances. Put the dots together to understand the bigger story. You can't do any of that. And even if you did know the language, considering your posts are nothing but fallacies, you wouldn't be able to think logically.
>inb4 you don't either
Learned it as part of a job. You're a retard.
>>135604793
You just don't know what you are talking about
2013 US nearly bombed Syria only Obama on his own at last instance stopped it this was an entire year before ISIS rose up
US had and continued to arm FSA
All of those articles you posted used anonymous sources not reliable
Assad is winning and cucking the US hard
Your point is retarded
Again you don't know what you are talking about
>>135605052
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment
>>135605148
>2013 US nearly bombed Syria only Obama on his own at last instance stopped it this was an entire year before ISIS rose up
As Trump did. It was going to be limited, no regime removal.
This shows the US isn't interested. You're incompetent.
>Assad is winning and cucking the US hard
Russia is winning. Assad is turning into Iran's puppet.
>>135605110
>Learned it as part of a job. You're a retard.
Ohhohoho we have us an analyst here
Tell me more fag
>>135605148
>All of those articles you posted used anonymous sources not reliable
Still more evidence that most claims the Assad side takes to be true.
Learn the language, what the country's name is and its cities before you even attempt to argue against me, you little idiotic troglodyte.
>>135605246
I would but you're too dumb to get it.