Is buying a foreign car economic treason?

>>135553178
buying anything other than Tesla in 2017 is beyond degenerate.

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>>135553178

>is buying the superior product economic treason

No

>>135553361
This. Gasburners will be the first to go on the day of the battery

>>135553361
Oh thats so so sad you think that.. lol. Cuck.
You can buy foreign Cara if they're used, just don't buy new imports. And never buy an electric car.

Buying a car might not be , but buying milk from a neighbour just because it's 2 cents cheaper is economic treason in a nutshell. Most countries don't even build cars. In a country which doesn't build cars, sending it to repairs of the build country or a neighbour, or an immigrant owned shop(US excluded, because it's all immigration level is untrackable since the last 2 generations.) is however, economic treason.

>>135553552
I'm glad you posted your Camry as an example

>>135553178

Toyotas are made in America while domestic cars are mostly made in Canada and Mexico with Chinese parts. So no, American cars are shit and should be avoided.

>>135553989
Toyotas are pretty much the main example of this though. GM still does the majority of their production in Michigan, granted they use Windsor Canada for a lot of stuff for what I'm assuming is tax evasion purposes.

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>>135553178
if we could build something that isnt 97% plastic with a highway speed death wobble id be all over it

Well my country doesn't make cars so I have no choice.

I will get a japanese car tho, because US cars suck and I don't want to support the Western/Southern European economies because they are all cucked countries.

Jap cars are pretty good anyways

>>135553178
My Honda was built in Canada. Get stuffed.

>>135553178
Any American who claims to be a nationalist and who owns a foreign car is a hypocrite and should stop role playing as a patriot.

>>135553361
Kek, this is the most retarded post I've seen today, congrats

>>135554400
Yeah but it's not just designed in Japan. The assembly is taught and closely monitored by the Japanese to make sure white people don't fuck it up too bad. Even they they are probably not as well built as when Japanese cars all came from Japan.

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>>135553178
>implying economics is zero-sum
It isn't.

>>135553727
>>135554521

keep buying your shitty made in china cars that have an american brand label printed on it while running on mudslime oil. neck yourselves.

>>135553361

Electric cars are literally a meme. Just an in-between shit solution that only works for city dwellers who could walk or take public transport anyway. Hydrogen cars are a much more viable solution.

Besides, producing an electric car pollutes more than the production and usage of an old gasoline car.

>>135553361

This.
Tesla is the most 'made in USA' car you can buy.

>>135553178
the old saying was: Help Destroy America buy Jap cars and trucks.

>>135554809
>he says as his cars are increasingly made by mudslime workers while said cars and his wife's kids run on mudslime oil.

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>>135553178
>Family bought American cars
>Always broke down
>Dealership was shit. Never fixed the problem. Cost an arm and leg every time.
>Neighbor was moving and wanted to know if we would be interested in his car.
>The pile of shit American car we had was in the shop yet again so my dad bought his car for a really cheap amount.
>That was our first Lexus. That was 1999. It was a night and day difference. The Lexus was comfortable and worked. It didn't stall on me in the morning at an intersection, it didn't break down on me late at night when I was trying to get home from work, the check engine light didn't pop on when I was stuck in traffic and then stop and I would have to get out and push it to the side of the road and look like an asshole till AAA showed up and hour and a half later.
>I am not going back to American cars.

You can call it economic treason all you want. I need a vehicle that I can trust and I can't trust American cars.

>>135553361
Why? In Trump's America gas at the pump is very cheap. No need to pay a premium for an electric car but they are pretty cool.

>>135554926
This
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>>135553178
No.
If American auto companies want my money they need to make a vehicle I actually want to buy.

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Oh god OP, you posted my favorite car of all time. Shit is so stylish, and I hear a full production could be on by 2020.

On-topic, it really depends on if the car is actually made in one's own country. I would have no problem buying a Subaru WRX since they're made here in the US, for example.

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>>135554682
I'm ok with this. I've seen how American cars are put together.

>>135555068
>Comparing mid 90s to today
In terms of reliability, Japanese cars are still at the top of the list, but American cars aren't far behind.
Stay away from Euro brands unless your local Enterprise has a frequent renter discount.

>>135554211
>death wobble
Are you driving solid axle trucks or something?

>>135555068
if anecdotes sway you then you aren't worth the argument

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>murshit cars

Nope. Not one cent of mine is going to a Drumpf state

Boycott Drumpf/Red States

>>135553178
>muh treason
Is it so called stockholm syndrome?

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>>135555049
Kek, jamar btfo

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>>135555499
But that picture iof that bridge s from the old country, ling ling.

>>135555482
I wanted to cry when they ditched the ciel and escala for their "we're bmw now" line in 2016. My last 4 cars have been early 2000s cadillacs and i hate what theyre doing to the brand.

>>135555519
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EuQ6f8rgT4
i drove one of those that did that for work awhile back. something that makes it through production with that serious of a problem i will never trust again.
certain jeeps did it too
and dodges https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LaMXupbfdA

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>>135553178
yes, yes it is.

so if you are white always buy german cars, dont be a degenerate.

>>135556107
Thank you Paco, it's an analogy. Besides, my name isn't ling ling. That's a girl's name.

>>135553178
considering that the Toyota Camry is the most american made car id say this view is pretty naive... until Trump Ford was still making cars in mexico.... the badge on the front doesnt tell you anything these days

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>>135553178
I got a black and chrome Mercedes for NatSoc reasons but i do still own a 72' Malibu so i guess that balances it out

BMW makes all their X line in Spartanburg, SC.

Only if it's new.
If it's used, it's local economic activity.

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>>135553178
American cars used to be badass and reliable machines, now they are cheap trash.Even the japanese are better at making cars now.

>>135556691
no one drives the X line except soccer moms

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We only produce one type of car and it's quite expensive, am I a traitor for not buying it?

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>>135554926
>fell for the hydrogen meme
lol.
literally 0 benefit

>>135556953
Its actually quite beautiful. If you could afford it of course you should.

>>135553178
be american, drove japanese shit, drove american shit, get german car, realize i never knew what a car was supposed to be like, only drive german

>>135553178
Americans make shit cars
>ugly
>unreliable
>cheaply made
>shit performance
>usually automatic
>expensive compared to superior European/Japanese cars

>>135556844
Your opinion was true decades ago. American cars are better than that now.

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>>135557227
To be fair, we can make better transmissions than the fucking swedes.

>>135553178
Is selling only overpriced outdated "enviroment-friendly" pieces of crap national treason?

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>>135553178
Only if it's new. If it's used, doesn't really matter.

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>>135557330

i bought a chrysler 300 cuz maga.

>>135557394
Volvo have good transmissions and they are Swedish

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>>135553178

GM forever hamstringing Cadillac is one of the greatest automotive tragedies

Cadillac practically invented the modern car but god forbid they have something that's better than a chevy or gm will flip

I reside in Indiana, my Honda was built in KY with more American parts than the Fords my husband builds with more foreign parts.

>>135553803
Lots of fresh stuff in German supermarkets comes from The Netherlands though.

>>135557728
Well to be fair my seville sts is hands down the nicest car ive ever owned. Theyre not perfect but i still prefer them to any other car on the market.>>135557822

>>135557636
Volvo's transmissions are built by a Japanese company.

>>135557822
>my husband

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>>135557599
https://www.autotrader.com/car-shopping/buying-a-car-are-american-cars-less-reliable-241040

>Our Take
>If you've been paying attention to the automotive industry recently, you'll know that American trucks have become just as reliable as their Japanese counterparts. Unfortunately, many drivers remember an era when this wasn't true, so they continue to believe that American cars lag behind foreign rivals when it comes to dependability and longevity. While there are still some bad apples, we think this generally isn't true, and we'd feel just as confident buying an American car for long-term ownership as we would feel about buying a Japanese car.

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>>135557227

>No
>no unless it's a chrysler
>depends on if its a chrysler or not
>9th fastest car around the nurburgring is a 7 year old viper
>12th is a Corvette
>15th is a Camaro
>A CAMARO
>Fastest accelerating sedan in the world is american
>Fastest Sedan in the world is American
>Tend to be manual more than European cars (I don't think Ferrari even makes a manual anymore)

Now this one

>expensive compared to superior European/Japanese cars

I legitimately don't understand

You can get a V8 6 speed manual on Cadillac's based alpha platform for like 30k new, what European or Japanese car even comes close to that?

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>>135555509
I am just saying the shitty dealership was the icing on the cake. The cars were craptastic and always breaking down. I have had 4 Lexus since my dad bought his first one (I bought them used) and I haven't had any problems with them besides the usual maintenance.

I have been in two accidents (both times hit by drunk Mexicans that totally destroyed my car) and both times the cars did their job in protecting me and I wasn't hurt (thank you God).

So I am not going to stay with what works.

>>135555576
I go to Lexus dealership and I am treated like a King. If there is anything major they give me a loner car.

Both Ford and Plymouth dealerships were terrible, rude and made you feel like you were going to the DMV and bothering them from talking to each other.

Why would I go back to that? That attitude hasn't changed. My girlfriend has a Ford Mustang and she is always talking about the shitty care she gets and she couldn't believe how different it was at the Lexus Dealership.

I want to follow the "be American, buy American" but until the Ford and GM dealerships learn something called Customer Service I am going to stay where I am.

>>135558222
what about sedans? the quote conflates trucks with all cars.

>>135556481
That image! DAMN

That is fucking scary.

>>135558219
>my empire

>>135558244
Pretty sure youre not getting a v8 cadillac in 2017 for less than 50. They seem to put 4 and 6 cylinders in everything except the delicious v series. wish i could afford one more than anything.

>>135556849
My point still stands. And I like soccer moms. They're home raising the kids while their husbands work. Like God intended.

>>135555068
Same thing with my family. My dads worked in construction for over 3 decades, and has owned 8 American trucks in his lifetime. After his new '11 Ram's transmission shit the bed at 54k, I loaned him my Tundra since I was going on vacation with the family. My old man almost didn't want to give me my keys back. Drove him to the dealership the next day and picked himself up a new Tundra. It still runs like new and he treats his trucks like shit.

American cars are fucking Trash. Couldn't pay me to drive one.

>>135558410
The article is discussing all vehicles from the US in total to say in general, quality and satisfaction is up, but here's one that touches on cars:

>For an example of what we mean, consider J.D. Power's Vehicle Dependability Study, which looks at 3-year reliability numbers for new cars. In last year's study, seven of the 19 segments included were topped by American cars, including large sedan (the Buick LaCrosse), large SUV (the GMC Yukon), and of course, most pickup segments. By comparison, Japanese automakers topped nine of the 19 segments in the study.

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>>135558525

The new Camaro is built in America and uses Cadillac's alpha platform, which is what I'm referring to.

Also goddamn I want an ats-v

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Toyota tundra is more american than a ford f150
BMW X5 is more american than a dodge durango
More than 50% of Hyundais are made in america

It highly depends what model you buy as most non american brands have models are actually made in america

Anyway I drive a corvette made by a fat man in kentucky

>>135558720

k, thanks for the clear-up.

>>135558750
I would never take a camaro over a cadillac. Same power infinitely better ride, features and handling. That ats v is pure sex.

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>>135556107
>that guy clapping all the way

>>135558876

Yes but we are talking about budget performance, and there nothing new that I can think of that touches Camaros and Mustangs.

If you can afford a V of course you should get a V

>>135559012

Nothing new that isn't a dedicated track toy*

>>135558222
Its only dodge/chrysler/jeep that is shit tier
For like 30 years they have been the most unreliable major brand in the world
A few minor brands are worse but no many people buy those

>>135558299

Agreed. I'm on my second BMW and they treat you awesome. I went into a Lexus dealership and got the same treatment last time I was shopping.

The last time I went into a US car dealership, I had to deal with the usual car salesman bullshit. It pisses me off just thinking about it.

Honda/Acuras are either designed in Japan or in the US (designed and manufactured in Ohio.) 3 of the top 10 American made cars are Honda/Acuras.

>>135553361
Uh. Teslas are notoriously unreliable and they are expensive to repair. If you want a reliable electric or hybrid, buy a Prius or a Volt. Personally, I have a Prius.

>>135553178
Toyota Landcruiser is the most popular car for militaries and also the United Nations.

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>>135559212
You better not be that asshole in the prius that drives 45 in the fast lane on the freeway.

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>>135559049
They need to go back to making beautiful muscle cars.

>>135559514
Nah, why would I drive that slow? Prius can go really fast, they're really reliable, AND they burn very little gas. I drive it like it's a camaro lol.

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>>135556139
>certain jeeps did it too
Jeeps Wranglers were notorious. I rode in one that couldn't do highway speeds. Not to mention the brand as a whole having 3rd world handling.