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Clean Eating is now racist.

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"Trouble is, the movement is a wholly classist phenomenon—or, in the words of one of my students who grew up in inner-city Detroit, "Clean eating? That's some rich white people shit."

'Deweese says she hates the term clean eating. "It's a social status thing. It's more about 'I'm better because I eat clean,'" she says. Adds Scott-Dixon, "'Clean eating' is a preoccupation of people who, in socioeconomic terms, really don't have any real, legitimate worries. It's a first-world problem."'

Hopefully you all learn a valuable lesson from this article (if an anon could archive it for me that would be great), but I really hope this inspires you all to stop being selfish and thinking only of yourselves when you buy fruits and vegetables.

https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/zmvwb4/eating-clean-wont-make-you-any-healthier
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>>135548512
But I thought blacks were all able cooks who mastered the spices while white people ate dirt and cold macaroni?
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>>135548512
Comon OP! Archive that shit.
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>>135548512
Oh no, people are classist for not wanting to eat high fructose corn syrup garbage.
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>"Trouble is, the movement is a wholly classist phenomenon—or, in the words of one of my students who grew up in inner-city Detroit, "Clean eating? That's some rich white people shit."
ooooooo shit, you go girl! woooohooo! maury maury maury!
>dies of heart disease
>"fuckin white folks!"
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>>135548512
No one is stopping you from buying some containers or lumber and building planters. Grow your own damn nutrition to supplement your garbage intake. No one is forcing these people to eat like this. I've seen middle class white families who exactly like that photo. Garbage in, garbage out.
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>>135548627
The only reason why blacks have "good food" is because they throw a LOT of spices in it. You can't even taste the food, all you get are the spices which is what makes it good. They don't have enough skill to spice it a little and cook it properly so it tastes great. They literally douse everything with some kind of spices. NIGGERS
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>>135548512

dad picture is fake. i dont see no watermiloons!
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>>135548627
>>135549548
Blacks eat food made for kings and melanoid people. Whites eat ice cubes in mayonnaise.
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>>135548627
>>135549548
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>>135548512

>the 'I can only afford fast food because I'm poor' meme

To me, this really shows that the principle of meritocracy actually seems to work pretty well, because this clearly indicates that the poorest people in society also tend to be the dumbest.

You can absolutely eat healthy on a tiny budget. As a matter of fact, eating lots of fast food is actually a lot more expensive than buying healthy ingredients with a good $/calorie ratio and cooking yourself.
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>>135548512
But nigs are growing gardens in Detroit

http://archive.is/oVX2R
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>>135548512
>It's a first-world problem
No shit, it's a first-world country.
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>>135548512
>Still eating like a virgin when you could be on the Chad diet
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>>135548512
Why are niggers so fucking obnoxious?
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>>135550629
I'm poor and eat Soylent, I save money on toilet paper, dishes, food etc. I'm also losing a lot of fat.

I only do it 4 days a week at work (12 hour shifts with no breaks, food industry) and I've saved easily $45/week because I don't eat fast food or gas station food. It's not for everybody but holy hell it makes you realize how retarded people are. Even if I wasn't doing the soy slime I would have saved a killing just not eating out.

Niggers are retards.
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>>135550629
You are correct of course. For me it is sometimes gives me headaches that there are people who think buying a bag M&Ms for a few dollars would be cheaper then buying pounds of vegtables for one buck. The very idea behind it is absurd yet some people still believe it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpPDVqMltx8
Also
>Seitenbacher intensifies
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>>135548512
The article is shit but it makes fun of people who think they're healthier for buying overpriced Whole Foods shit and acting holier than thou about it.

You can eat cheap if you find farmers markets or buy bulk staples and cook.

I've stopped eating fast food and cook at home and eat high protein and count calories. Not fun but it helps me lose weight and be one of the few non obese Americans. Also love seeing strength gains in the gym by not trying to out train a shitty diet
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>>135551635
People also don't understand how much meat they need to eat.

Even if you don't want to go vegan, you only need 3oz of meat at a serving if that's your protein.

That means a pound (16oz) of chicken breast last you 5 meals, with half a cup (precooked) brown rice, then you need some type of seasonal green + spices.

National averages
$3.18/lbs chicken breast
$0.36/ 1/2 cup brown rice
$0.63/cup broccoli
$0.52/cup spinach

10 meals=(3.18*2)+(0.36*10)+(((0.63+0.52)/2)*10)=$15.71 / 10 meals / $47.13 for 10 days / $141.39 for a month

Add in the cost of almonds or pistachios and some cheat days if you want them and you're looking at <$200/mo for food - and that's if you don't get anything on sale. You can eat for less, especially if you are willing to eat shit like oatmeal. I would imagine that $141 is closer to $70-90 if you buy bulk/sale.

Pic related, make ahead of time and reheat.

>>135551675
Even cheaper if you get rid of the dairy garbage.
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>>135551042
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>>135548512
Yeah, fuck people who don't eat off the floor.
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>>135548512
He's right
"clean eating" is a meme for retards
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>>135548512
Its obvious msm has given up on whites. they are too smart to fall for buying all the stupid shit they sell on tv. so what would you do? thats right you would cater to the people that do fall for it. this is just evolution. it may feel like your country is abandoning you if you base your life off of tv values but this is just evolution. the blacks will get wise in a generation or two as well.
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>>135548512

>Deweese
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>>135549548
to be fair spices are how the food gets good. Why do you think it used to be the absolute largest trade commodity for hundreds of years? theres only so much protiens in the world and they all end up tasting bland eventually, even beef needs salt and pepper.
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>>135550629
the reason they dont eat well is because it doesnt taste as good. end of story. the conspiracy the media tries to propagate is that you cant eat well if you are poor and preferably black.
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>>135548512
Been eating organic for the past 4 years , it does not have to be expensive to eat healthy and clean food without pesticides and chemicals. most of you will never realize because of your programming. if organic produce is too expensive go out aand grow your own food you lazy fucks
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>>135548512
Story time!

>Be me, working at Wal-Mart
>Old fat white guy comes through my lane
>Buys nothing but giant hunks of meat and several cases of Dr. Pepper.
>Like that's ALL he bought. 25 lbs of beef and 96 cans of Dr. Pepper
>Very next person is a well dress black woman
>Buys nothing but fresh vegetables. Every kind of leaf and sprout we carried.
>Almost said "I want to go to your house tonight." but I was too beta back then.

The contrast between the two was striking. Each person's bill was around $100. I think hers was a bit cheaper. Moral of the story: Anybody can buy anything. Clean eating is not racist.
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>>135548512
kek labeling 'clean food' as racists. It's the bankers and investors who push the media to keep you eating their fast food and prepackaged instant meals. truth is, 'clean food' (aka food cooked from raw ingredients) cost less and is healthier

take the 1958 study that started the (((fat free))) high sugar trend and see how that boosted obesity rates

it's all about profit to the investors because it benefits the bankers who use the media to push their agendas
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>>135551042
>italians drinking pepsi
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>>135550629
They already have an excuse for you tell them this. They talk about food dessserts. I've never lived in the inner city, but I can see food markets in Highland Park Detroit. And even if they do live in food desserts, convenient stores still sell containers of oatmeal and canned beans.
There really is no excuse.
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>>135556045
Fat free is indeed merchant trickery, or at least merchant influenced.

>don't eat that butter or olive oil goyim, instead replace those calories with our refined flour carbs and GMO corn syrup. You can save a few shekels too!
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>>135555686
>eat healthy and clean food without pesticides and chemicals
does your food also have electrolytes ? this is important
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>>135555686
see we live in this thing we call a civilization. we have a job we do and it allows us to attaint currency which can then be traded for goods. also you cant farm much food at all in a backyard in compton.
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>>135548512
I guess I'm only eating at Taco Bell from now on to prove I stand in solidarity with the community.
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>>135555789
cool story bro. its not like the guy was obviously buying shit for a party.
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>>135550416
>>135550441
that's not cooking that's just spicing
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>>135551042
look that chad, the poorest one has 5 kids lmao
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clean eating, as in sticking to good sources of carbs, protein and some veg/fruit, is not only healthier but can be even cheaper than a junk food/fast food/soda based diet.
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>>135555789
>eating proteins and carbs = unhealthy
>eating water and fibers = healthy

a friend of mine just got diarrhea by eating too much watermelon
this is incredible considering that shit is green and thus "healthy" by definition
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>>135550629
>implying that obese, overworked, extremely poor individuals, often with multiple children want to literally live off oats and beans, when food might be one of their only comforts in life, let alone making their children live off gruel.
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>>135555789
This 'story time!' Bullshit is absolute cancer. Fuck off with it
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The reason most people don't eat clean has nothing to do with price or convenience. The reason people don't eat clean is because most people don't know how to cook. It's really that simple.
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>>135557062
>To me, this really shows that the principle of meritocracy actually seems to work pretty well, because this clearly indicates that the poorest people in society also tend to be the dumbest.

>implying that obese
>overworked
>extremely poor individuals
>often with multiple children
>food might be one of their only comforts in life

At what point were you going to refute his argument about meritocracy?

>having numerous kids when you can't afford to feed them
>being a literal slave and voting for continued slave policies
>no willpower
lol
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>>135551675
you're cherry picking quite possibly the most expensive fast food meal possible. You could also buy TWENTY double cheeseburgers at McDonalds for $20, and have 10,000 calories off of $20. Probably about 5x as much as your "or" photo.
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>>135548512
God damn fucking kikes! absolutely haram
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how can you even afford this shit?
its like 500$ worth of food
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>>135551675
I don't know where you are finding 2 pounds of chicken breast for $2, or milk for $2 a gallon. 2 pounds chicken breast costs $10 in any reasonable city, and milk will be $5-6 a gallon. Everything else on that list is about 50% less than actual prices, even in rural areas.
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>>135551042
when you scroll down and get to the ZOGchow

lmfao
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>>135557062
>create your own problems
>waaah why is life so hard?!?
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>>135548512
These fucking people think everything is racist.
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>>135557062

I'm sure there is a middle ground between 'only living off oats' and only eating fast food, anon.

If you know how to cook even on a basic level there are many healthy, tasty and cheap dishes that you can prepare in a short period of time.

It's understandable that people who have multiple kids/jobs/whatever have an incentive to choose convenience over a healthy diet, but it's wrong to suggest that eating at least somewhat healthy is some herculean task that only the ruling classes can afford.
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>>135556680
>>135550416
you mean that's spice with food added.
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>>135550629
this is a fallacy
you need oil,pans,mixers,salt,pepper,oven,trays in order to prepare food in the first place
most healthy foods can't be made by just popping it in the microwave
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>>135556045
the simple matter is that outside of rice and beans, "cleaning eating" foods are about 50 calories per dollar, while "unhealthy" foods approach 500 calories per dollar, or even more, plus actually eat like you're not an African refugee, while still needing to work like a drone in western society.
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>>135557442
https://www.frysfood.com/p/heritage-farm-chicken-breasts-with-rib-meat-boneless-skinless-5-6-per-pack-/0021065600000

lol get fucked faggot
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>>135548512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpPDVqMltx8
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>>135557996
^meant for
>>135557643
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>>135557938
>you need oil,pans,mixers,salt,pepper,oven,trays in order to prepare food in the first place

And why would you not have these things?
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>>135550416
every one of those dishes looks the same, a bunch of paprika and spices on some white meats
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Someone should update archive bot to catch (((Vice)))

https://unvis.it/tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/zmvwb4/eating-clean-wont-make-you-any-healthier
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Just buy simple foods, don't bother with that organic shit. Chicken, rice, eggs, fruits, veggies, spices, etc. If it comes in a big colorful box with a fancy brand name, ignore it completely. If it comes "already made" it's pure garbage. Stop being stupid and lazy and just eat good food.
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Michelle Obama has quite literally been one of the most active advocates for clean eating. Is it -just now- racist because Obama's no longer in office? What kind of fucking morons are writing this shit?
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>>135550629
>When the german anon is on point

Abso-fucking-lutely. You can buy fresh meat and veggies for the same as fast food, poor people are just lazy and stupid.
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>>135550629
A lot of times people try to eat "healthy" by buying a bunch of out of season shit or worse "health foods" that are the same items with a green label, a different font, and a higher price tag.
>>135556287
>food deserts
Think about your average grocery store, the open aisles, the low amount of employees per square foot, the rows of registers, it's basically a nightmare scenario for a shopkeeper to keep safe and operational in a ghetto, most of the ones that do exist there have armed guards. Also despite the "we wuz cooks!" memes black families are going to buy a much less diverse set of items than white families are, and most of those items are junk food available at a gas station. It's not that blacks don't have money for groceries, the EBT card takes care of that, it's that they don't WANT to buy that shit and no amount of white liberal whining is going to make Big Mama want to try some kale.
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>>135558074
because its few hundreds on front. when you are poor you might spend like 15-50$ at a time
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>>135557643
>be you
>be dumb
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>>135556299
it is indeed, fat is a cleaner source of energy for our brains than sugar. Vitamins A, D, E, and K are fat soluble. refined sugar is nothing but a form of cheap and quick energy.

>>135557273
>The reason people don't eat clean is because most people don't know how to cook
this. Eating clean isn't about choosing (((organic))) It's about cooking a meal with raw ingredients without all the added sugars and salts that fast food and instant meals come with

read the ingredients of any instant food and you'll realize it's jam packed with multiple different forms of sugars and salts. Ingredient renaming and marketing is all to jedi mind trick you into believing your instant food is healthy
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>>135557938
Poor people can afford those things you mongo.
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Black people literally eat dirt
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>>135558472
you literally just linked me "whole chicken" which includes bones and giblets still, and NOT what I was talking about.
>Be you
>be nufag summer
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>>135558688
for me a poor person is something that is susceptible to homelessness at any given moment. what you mean is lower middle class
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>>135555789
I love looking at what people buy when I'm in the checkout line at the grocery store. I check out the people, their purchases, and make assumptions about their lives based on what I see.

Gives me something to do while waiting in line, other than reading the buzzwords on magazine covers.
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Maybe if OP and others would actually read the article instead of a carefully selected portion of it, they're realize that "clean eating" is not simply healthy eating, but an obsession with "organic" products (most of which are anything but) grown or raised in an ethical manner.

It's basically the fucking kale-eaters that're being criticized here, you fuckwits. Know who else doesn't read shit before opening their mouths? Niggers. Don't be niggers.
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>>135557788
Or you could try the diet of the socialist paradise of Venezuela, eating your own fecal material! Seriously it's the perfect plan
>hungry
>eat shit
>get hungry later
>shit and eat again

Cost effective and completely organic!
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>>135558988
Mixed fixed excrement? Wtf.

Oh this pasta is so dull, let's add our feces to it.
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>>135548512
None of those niggers look fat. Maybe the father, but he's old.
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>>135558453
>because its few hundreds on front.

>get bed, bath, and beyond 20% off coupons in mail
>buy one big, decent quality non-stick pan for $30
>go to asian super market
>buy a few pots and pans and strainer for $15
>all the items you need to cook, stir fry, and bake
>wa la
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>>135548512
But healthy food is literally cheaper than junk food
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>>135558940
the concept that food is not inherently healthy or unhealthy is completely lost on 'muricans
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>>135557964
the caloric difference in dollar between heatlhy vs unhealthy is negligible when you weigh the nutritional difference between the two

vitamins help you metabolize energy and use the food you eat to rebuild your cells. without these important nutrients, you will feel exhausted despite eating more calories. the point of it all is to keep the wage slave, a wage slave so they convince you fast food is cheaper and 'a calorie is a calorie'
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Eating clean is a bunch of bullshit anyways.
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>>135559130
>get bed, bath, and beyond coupons in the mail

Wanna know how I know you live with your mom?
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>>135558769
Oh my mistake, it will totally cost $9 more to de-bone chicken. Have a look at the price of milk and realize that the difference in price is largely inconsequential.
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>>135558453

Fair enough, anon. If you're so poor that you can't afford cheap pots and pans and some salt & pepper you are going to have a hard time preparing your own meals.

But how many people are really in that position? Unless you are actually homeless guy kind of broke you should be able to get your hands on the most basic kitchen equipment.

That's not to say that there aren't people unfortunate enough to be in such a situation, but most 'poor' people are more than capable of affording that.
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>>135557938
>pans
Buy a used one. You need only one. 5 dollars max

>salt, pepper, oil
Whats this? The dark ages? That's like 3 dollars as long as you are not some hipster retard who needs sea salt and virgin olive oil from Italy.

You people are really fucking stupid and extremely bad with money.
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>>135557938

And most of those things are easily affordable if you don't spend your money on junk food or soft drinks, which many low income people do. If you have 5 kids and you're "living paycheck to paycheck" or "just scraping by" maybe the Pepsi and Doritos shouldn't be on the shopping list.

Also like >>135558250 said, if you buy store brand in bulk it's entirely possible to feed a family healthy meals on a meager budget. The problem is a lot of niggers are hardly practical with their food stamps.
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>>135557643

>2 pounds chicken breast costs $10 in any reasonable city

Maybe in a socialist vegan commune. If you are paying anything more than $1/lb for chicken you are getting ripped the fuck off.
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>gettin a job? Das white people shiet
>school? Das white people shiet
>eating healthy food? Das white people shiet

Niggers.
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>>135559264
If you live in America, you get these coupons in the mail. It does not matter where you live, your gender, your age, your neighborhood - they will fucking find you, and they will put those fuckers in your mailbox.

The thing is, BBB coupons are actually useful, so its the only junk mail no one complains about getting.
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>>135548512
"Wiping yo ass? Dat's some rich white people sheiiiiiit."
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>>135559205
look at those fat fucking sausage fingers
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>>135559372
my parents oven broke down a year ago, and they are too poor to replace it. Also, their sink broke 3 years ago, and it will cost $1k plus to fix, so they don't have running water in the kitchen. Kind makes cooking and cleaning 10 different pots difficult just so you can get some rice and beans.
Situations like this are common among the poor, who are may at one point had more utilities, but are too poor to replace them when they inevitably break.
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>>135556957
You don't eat the green part dumbass.
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>>135555789
I think some people soak their meat in cola or soda before a bbq
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>>135559666
>someone made this video intending to get high profile websites to advertise it (their store link) for them
>yahoo actually accepted said video
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>Just buy simple foods, don't bother with that organic shit. Chicken, rice, eggs, fruits, veggies, spices, etc.
This. (((Organic))) and labelling has to be the biggest merchantry jedi mind trick since (((fat free)))
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>>135548512
I don't understand how people claim eating healthy is expensive. It's not rocket science. Buy fruit and vegetables of the season, grains and legumes, cheap meat like chicken and fish if you live by the sea. Don't use oil/butter to fry shit and just like that you are now eating healthy.
Every fucking poorfag buy more soda and packaged sweets in a week than I buy in 10 years.
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>>135559510
nigger $1 a pound for chicken is fucking 1979 prices

http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/70sfood.html
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>>135548512
Nigger-tier food is EBT eating.
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wtf i hate fruit now?
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>>135559130
>wa la
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>>135559837
>spices
This the one thing that blows everything apart for me. I buy everything you mentioned, including yogurt/nuts/seeds, but I can never make it all not boring as fuck to eat as I have no clue how to properly season food.
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>>135556757
>no father
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>>135559130
>go to good will
>get everything for under $30
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>>135548512
Too long text for a nigger pic
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>>135559839
food is significantly more expensive in America than Europe. As someone who lived in Germany for 2 years, when I moved back, that healthy diet in Europe, which included what you just listed, cost 3x as much in America, than at a place like lidl in Germany. Basically all vegetables were 3-4x as much, and chicken/fish/cheese twice as much. I could get a kilogram of Spinach at lidl for 79 cents, but in America that would cost $8.
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>>135559642
Anon, I live in a town with a population of 540.

I have never seen one of those fucking things in my life.
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>>135559372
you can get tons of cooking ware at goodwill for stupid cheap. anyone who says they can't get an electric stove and a few pans is an idiot.
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>>135559703
Bullshit, they could get a new oven for much less than 1k and repairing a sink it's hardly any expensive. They are just lazy.
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>>135559938
>fruit
Lad, they didn't even figured out how to eat healthy under 10 dollar and you are already suggesting cheap dessert.
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>>135548512
Look at this black family. A father with a straight shirt tucked into his pants who puts food on the table. A mother. And two children. All nogues aren't that bad
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>>135551042

I love how autistic the germans are. Just look at how they desplayed everything!
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>>135560004
Well for one, yogurt is shit. Depending on the nuts, they are shit.

What you need to do is find something you enjoy eating, a flavor.

Do you like Thai food? Spend a few dollars on Thai Basil and when you cook your weeks rice/meat/mixture, use it to flavor the rice.

Do you like gook food? Get buy mint and fish sauce and use it to flavor your shit.

Try to eat different places and recreate the (general) taste in your food.
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>>135550416
>Whites eat ice cubes in mayonnaise.
DERIVATIVES BACK IN YO CAVES N SHIT!!!
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>>135556957
>watermelon
>a fruit

fruits aren't healthy bro.
>it's green

well there's your problem, watermelon is pink u retard

i used to think it was free choice but now i actually think education has something to do with it.

you really think fruits are healthy foods??
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>>135548512

What's that nigga on the left >implying?
Can't read that fine of a print.
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>>135560146
>not living within 20 mi. of a Bed, Bath, and Beyond

How horrifying.
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>>135560441
>watermelon
it's pretty much entirely water and fibers. Almost no nutrients. probably why its called watermelon.
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>>135551042
I honestly can't see a nigger country with as much food on the table as the murican niggers.
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>>135557643
Out of curiosity, what state do you live in? I live in Wisconsin, and milk is ~$2.25 a gallon and chicken breasts are $2 per pound
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>>135556045
Of course, if everybody started cooking from scratch, we would wreck the food industry, and a few years later, then healthcare industry.
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>>135560493
It's exactly 47 miles away. That's the closest one.
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>>135555789
Damn...
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>>135560004
It begins with salt and freshly ground black pepper my young padawan. Then level up to lemons/lime/orange, paprika, and turmeric, even soy sauce sometimes. Don't unload your hard earned cash for an extensive spice rack you won't use. Read recipes and slowly develop your tongue buying one recommended spice at a time while removing instant/fast foods that desensitize your tongue. It takes time but one good bottle of an herb/spice last a long time but so does developing your tongue
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>>135560137
arent you the same nigger saying 2lbs chicken is 10$? lol.

Spinach is not $8/kg. Quit being a nigger lol.

https://www.frysfood.com/p/spinach/0000000004090

Spinach, $1.59/lbs or $3/kg.
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>>135560341

That's not autism, it's called Ordnung.
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>>135557643
>2 pounds chicken breast costs $10 in any reasonable city
Not in Florida or Texas
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>>135548627
American blacks learned cooking from slavery, where the got the shittiest meat cuts and had to drown out the taste with spices. Who the fuck else eats chitlins, pigs feet and all the rest of that shit.
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>>135550416
>ice cubes in mayonnaise
Too spicy. Tap water for me thanks
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>>135560219
>le based blacks amirite fellow pedes? XD
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>>135548512
What's next? Washing your ass is racist?
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>>135558866
I've been very poor and even then I had pots and pans. I lived in section 8 housing with my ex wife and made minimum wage, and we had pots and pans.

You can get a cheap set of pans from Walmart for $20

>but I'm talking about people who can't even afford to spend $20 on something like that! They live paycheck to paycheck, they're just scraping by! They can only afford the bare necessities, such as new iphones, video games, alcohol, flat screen televisions, black friday spending sprees, you know, the necessities!

Even people who don't work because they're too lazy to get a job get enough government money that they can afford pots and pans. So fuck off
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>>135560829

I have a theroy that Löw is a pro level troll.
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>>135557273
it has everything to do with necessity. if this wasn't a food source they couldn't have 2 income families.
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>>135560960
But this isn't what I said. Find something wrong with their attitude.
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>>135561002
To add to this - the same people who "can't afford" to eat healthy are the same people who "don't have time" to exercise.

Yet they spend hundreds of dollars a month on frivolous bullshit and spend 4 hours a day scrolling through facebook on their smartphone. But golly gee, just no time or money to live healthily. If only we were in a communist utopia, then I would eat healthy, but for now... *scrolls through Amazon looking for some other useless trinket to buy*
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>>135560137
>I could get a kilogram of Spinach at lidl for 79 cents, but in America that would cost $8.
Where the fuck do you live? NYC? Hawaii? Alaska?
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>>135561169
Unwarranted racism.
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>>135551042
>All that bread in the Italian square
[muffled autistic screeching coming from /fit/]
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>>135559763
this is some shit they were spreading a little while back. you can make very good tasting pulled pork in a slow cooker with dr pepper but its just fucking insane. You want pulled pork and are lazy make carnitas. dont fucking mariante your meat in soda to get that sweet taste fuck.
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>>135559837
have you done the test sampling of food labeled organic grown in the US vs conventional food grown in the US?
because if you did you would find out that USDA Organic food has way significantly less toxic pesticides that cause cancer. But you didnt because you are programmed into thinking that organic is just food for people who think they are better then others, and just come to 4chan to shitpost
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>>135555387
God you're retarded.
Spices were used as a way to preserve food without it rotting, or covering up the rotting flavors inside.
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>>135557442
Just the chicken and potatoes is over 5,000 calories.
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>>135561409
Hey look the resident vegan decided to join us.
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>>135559728
>words have only one meaning
c'mon mate, you're the native speaker here

>>135560441
fuck you guys are retarded
I could have said apples and the result would have been the same.
I stated already the concept of healthy foods is completely retarded : there are healthy diets and that's it.

By what I've been reading here eating veggies ( fibers that help you shit ) water and really low amounts of carbs suddenly make you fucking immortal just because there's no sugars in it
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>>135559130
White trash detected
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>>135559703
Knock it off. I can fix a sink for $300 easy. Most likely less. A cheap basin is like fifty bucks. Cheap faucet $30. The disposal is the most expensive part, but chances are its still good. Nobody knows how to do anything anymore.
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>>135548512
Eating beans, whole grains, fruits and veggies isn't a rich white people thing.

Literally every single poor person in the third world eats that way. And there are very few instances of heart disease or diabetes in those societies.
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>>135558988
>>135559096
Why would you ruin the flavor of the shit by adding pasta to it?
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>>135560788
>https://www.frysfood.com/p/spinach/0000000004090
where the fuck is this magical "fryfood" and why do you keep linking what is probably some hillbilly shack in Iowa with 3 aisles?
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>>135561293
What? I'm talking about the pic. They'r unrelated to the articles
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>>135560137
>lidl
>USofA

You guys have lidl?
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I haven't spent any money on food for the last 5 months. I fast 2 days a week then eat samplers from the nearby Costco/trader joes/hmart/moms organic on Friday and the weekends, they put so much shit out its like a buffet and most of it is pretty healthy. One day a week I get a nice free meal from the bar I do sound at, usually a nice grilled salmon steak with avocado. Plus every couple weeks some hipster friend has giant bags of quinoa and brown rice that they need to throw out to make space for more hipster shit they'll only eat once then shelve forever. My goal is to go a full year without spending a penny on food
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>>135561169
I like god fearing black people. while I may have more in common with a white atheist because of cultural differences I do like them. the problem is they contribute Hollywood degeneracy and thier own oppression to white people when it was a jewish trade that got them here.
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>>135561624
>Cant get diabetes or heart disease if you barely eat anything
>Great logic anon
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>>135561327
I have always bought a loaf of freshly baked bread from a local bakery everyday since I can remember.
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>>135548512

I spend £35 a week and eat fresh meat and vegetables everyday. i really dont understand how people claim you can't eat healthy for cheap, they just don't want to eat healthy.

I could probably get that down to £30 if i shopped smarter.
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>>135548512
>"It's a social status thing. It's more about 'I'm better because I eat clean"
Don't pull on that thread, it's the same reason people put up with Deweeses
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>>135561774
I'm jealous, I love fresh bread.
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>>135553595
How much does Australia weigh?
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>>135561644
Fry's is a pretty big electronics store here in AZ, I didn't know they sold spinach too though that's dope, now I can get a salad when I buy a new HD TV
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>>135561694
We have Aldi
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>>135550840
>http://archive.is/oVX2R
>2010
I'm sure they're still going strong
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>>135558453
Negative. Dollar tree has all the basics and your local grocery store/Wal-Mart/whatever will have the rest covered for everything you will ever need, brand new. Also thrift stores have cast iron etc for very cheap. Also Asian supermarkets as someone said above have bigass woks and frying pans for cheap. You could literally stock an entire kitchen for under 50 bucks when it comes to cooking utensils and cutlery.
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>>135561538
Vegan =/= organic poorfag

If you plebeians would stop blowing money on nutritionally devoid bullshit microwave meals, you would realize how inexpensive it is to eat healthy and mostly organic.

Fuck yeah organic frozen pizza or tendies are expensive. Do you retards even check your macros?
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>>135559703
Lazy and stupid. You deserve to live in squalor. $1000 to fix a kitchen sink? That's beyond retarded. Why not stop being a useless fuck and learn to repair the shit that inhibits your family from having basic accomodations. Fucking loser.
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>>135548512
>that pic
i'm drooling
i bet those black boys have delicious cocks
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>>135561907
they dont sell fresh bread at your store? you need a better store. one of the lowest rated shit food dispensaries in america even has fresh bread for a $1, winco.
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>>135561907

make it yourself.

water. yeast, salt. flour.

just do big batches and freeze it. better than eating warburtons chorleywood chemistry experiment.
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>>135561716
It's not that hard, go to a homeless shelter and eat for free.
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>>135561670
>Find something wrong with their attitude.
>"Clean eating? That's some rich white people shit."
The sad part is this hurts only themselves
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>>135553595
Do you even lift? 3 oz of meat...
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>>135561409
if you cared so much about toxic pesticides you would be buying from a farmers market, not some forcibly regulated product. the USDA still requires a certain amount of pesticides to be labeled (((organic))) while farmers from a farmer's market can't even receive that certification because of their lack of pesticides

support the humble independent farmer and shop from locally sourced farmer's markets who puts pride in what he grows and supports sustainable agriculture
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>>135562105
>mfw I tried making scones once and they came out black
>mfw I ate them anyway out of spite
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>>135560391
After extensive googling, I found that Fage greek yogurt was the best brand you will normally find in grocery stores. Is it really that bad?

>Depending on the nuts
Usually almonds and peanuts. For seeds I get pumpkin and sunflower kernels.

>your weeks rice/meat/mixture
Any recipes? I'm the worst at just putting something together.
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>>135550416
>Whites eat ice cubes in mayonnaise.
You forgot to include the white bread, crackers, and milk.
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>>135548512
beta nu-male niggers living at home 30+ years old.
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>not eating monsanto devil corn makes you a racist
apparantly i'm a racist then

they call anything racist the moment they start losing, it's one of their desperate last arguments. people are waking up to all the different ways they are being deliberately poisoned
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>>135559555
>Be black person from back in the day
>Get freed from slavery after a bunch of white people die in a war
>Get right to vote and hold office
>Get more rights after Civil Rights Movement
>Get welfare from government
>Get subsidized education from affirmative action
>Decedents: "I don't need dat learnin' shiiiiet! I don't need to follow laws an shiiiieet! Fuck them crackahs! Da white man holdin' me back!"
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>>135562241
The picture is unrelated to the article. It was part of a photo project. They're not the ones saying it.
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>>135548512
http://www.amusingplanet.com/2010/07/hungry-planet-what-world-eats-by-peter.html

This is a really interesting expo. Really gets your nogging jogging.
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>>135551042

Germany does like to buy its food in bulk, apparently.

Also, Ecuador's food looks really nice. I'm kind of surprised.

pic related is the Polish pic in this series.
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>>135557062
>when food might be one of their only comforts in life

I keep choosing to relieve short term anxiety instead of solving long term problems and I'm not getting anywhere!
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I swear to nigger dicks, if any dumb fuck criticizes me for buying vegetables at the store, i may finally snap. Ive had enough of this shit. And im a damn dirty nigger! Why are blacks so fucking stupid?! This shit makes it hard to live.
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>>135562339
why did you respond to me?
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>>135548512
Who the fuck says clean eating?
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>>135559130
>cooking food on the non-stick jew
enjoy your cancer
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>>135548627

Heads I win, Tails you lose.
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>>135548512
the perfect consumer class is now defending their corporate overlords. color me shocked.
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>>135562685
I know how addictive (you)s are and thought you might need one.
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>>135557062

>implying obeasts are smart enough to calories
>implying hamplanets are not lazy shit stains
>implying they should be allowed to reproduce


Fuck off land whale. Everyone knows fatvpeople have lower IQs and are not trusted to do actual work. If you can't control your body and what you slam into your gravy tunnel, you have no business having a "hard job". Sorry, overnight audit at the local La Quinta doesn't count as hard just because you are not offered a chair.
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>>135561716

Bravo
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>>135562256
Yes, 1g protein/kg bodyweight.

I weigh 195lbs, so I need roughly 85-90g protein a day. I eat my little stir fry bowls 4 times a day. 3oz meat is >20g protein each, that plus almonds and vegetables covers the rest. I don't eat dairy.

Falling for the 1g/1lbs bodyweight meme is some dumb shit lol.

>>135561908
?
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>>135562622
its a Photoshop for an infographic. dont take the internet too seriously. I'm sure you got some gripes about other races as well.
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>>135550441
seeing those lobsters coated in jaquantravious's spicy MSG flavor dust is worse than seeing a well done steak 2bh
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>>135562346
Yogurt is a great source of protein, the issue comes from the amount of sugars added in flavored yogurts. Diary is good, sugar is bad
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>>135562105
Hey don't knock WinCo where else will I get my 10lbs dry bulk gummy candy on the cheap?
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>>135562770
oh I earn my you's you'll fucking know when you should respond to me.
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>>135551042
inaccurate. Americans buy all the food in every square then throw out the vegetables.
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>>135548512
Clean eating was never an issue for Brits and they're still alive.
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>>135548512

Get behind me junk food Satan!

> Mmmhmm lovely orange and salads.
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>>135548512
Truly, vice is a shithole
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>>135561482
>American education
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I'm honestly amazed this is so accurate. We really do spend more money on mineral water than on meat.
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>>135562346
>I found that Fage greek yogurt was the best brand you will normally find in grocery stores. Is it really that bad?

All store bought yogurt is shit. Get a kefir starter kit and make your own probiotic yogurt at home with whole milk. It is super easy, you just pour between glasses once per day.

>Usually almonds and peanuts.

Peanuts are shitty legumes, not nuts. Order bulk plain almonds.

You should get used to leafy greens and olive oil, add meats and rice on top.

Goat Cheese can be cheap and flaking some on a meal adds a lot of flavor.
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>>135551675
>>135557643
Did you ever think that the image is old?
KFC meals are a hell of a lot more than $19 anymore.
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Americans so decadent they declare in order to be equal everyone must eat like pig.

Krokodil diet keep Russians thin.
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>>135563223
>We really do spend more money on mineral water than on meat.

And on photos of dead girls, apparently
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>>135551675
You people are so lucky. $1 per chicken breast pound? Over here it's $7 on sale.
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>>135562722
>not treating teflon properly

you absolute savage
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>>135563284

Russians subsist on a diet of vodka and bitterness
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>>135563223

I know we are much poorer than you are but central europe + benelux do have a shared lifestyle. Even the interiors look slighty similar.

+ a nice doggo there
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>>135562501
>mebloscianka
>grape oil
>baton Danusia

When these photos were taken? Looks like ca. 2005.
I wonder how the current Polish basket would look like.
I guess 80% is Bierdonka/Lidl stuff with a decent amounts of "superfoods" (thanks Chodakowska) and "gourmet" foreign treats from this week's magazine.


ps. Biedra is selling haloumi cheese this week and it's suprisingly good.
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>>135563369

Same here, chicken breast costs a fortune in Canada... I raise my own chickens but only slaughter them once in a while, so it's a treat
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>>135563223
these are all photoshops, they couldnt even go through the trouble of using actual pictures to make their point. its undeniably fabricated evidence. use your head or stfu.
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>>135551675
>2 pounds of chicken breast
>1 dollar and 96 cents

Where the fuck are they buying their chicken? Are they haggling for it with disgusting hobos by trading beads or some shit?

They're probably eating raccoon meat without realizing it.
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>>135557643
Chicken breast is $1.89/lb and whole milk is $0.95/gallon at my grocery store. I live in Plano, Tx. You must live in a shithole.
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>>135550416
Classic African cuisine
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>>135562346
Anything dairy isn't good for a few different reasons, and I'm not even lactose intolerant in the slightest.

From the way your body recognizes what contents of milk and how it reacts, to the actual fat contents and how they work inside your body, to the inflammation you get regardless of lactose intolerant or not, if you can live without it then live without it.

But yes, FAGE Greek yogurt is what I used to eat.

Stay away from peanuts, for almonds make sure you get raw - pistachios are better because they don't need to be (((pasteurized))) yet.

>recipe

To start off if you're a retard, then buy a roasted chicken or something like that

Take all the meat off, this can learn you how to not be a beta and carve like chad

Take an estimate of the amount of deboned meat you have left, then cut into pieces roughly the size of a quarter.

For every 3oz of meat, cook 1/2cup instant/brown/white/whatever rice.

Use a large pan (wok is best, obviously) on high heat to sear the outside of the chicken, we're really just trying to heat the food back up so it can accept some more flavouring.

Put in your Thai basil, stir it around in the oils. Put in garlic. Stir. Put in a Stir Fry sauce if you want, then put in Sri Racha, then a few ounces of water to thin the contents (we don't want all the sugar or sodium in these, so we want light flavours).

Now place your broccoli in and let it steam/cook, add more water if you didn't put in enough. After a few minutes add the spinach, then add the rice and stir it up.

Is it authentic Thai food? No. Is it tasty/edible gruel, done cheap? Yes.
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>>135558074
All you need is a rice cooker.......

I lived off basically cheapest meat I could find, brown rice, frozen vegetables, fruit, oatmeal, milk, eggs, nuts, and Greek yogurt during my poorfag bachelor days. I had a rice cooker and plastic forks.

I would dice up the meat with a pocket knife, brown in a hot rice cooker then throw in rice and veggies to cook, then eat it all out of the same pot. I would reuse plastic Chinese food containers and take the leftovers to work. You can even hardboil or scramble eggs super easy in a rice cooker.

I got my rice cooker from either CVS or Walgreens (can't recall) for around $12. Have used it for ~8 years.

I also eventually got an Oster MyBlend to make fruit or oatmeal smoothies for $20. Its a blender and cup all in one. Works great.

Food was pretty healthy compared to convenience foods, and was dirt cheap.

>in b4 "gook rice cooker"
I am full white boy
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>>135548512
Not only should you eat clean, you should also eat racially specific, to your white race use pic related.
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>>135563257
>All store bought yogurt is shit
>make your own probiotic yogurt at home with whole milk from the store
This only makes me more confused.

>leafy greens and olive oil, add meats and rice on top.
This was basically my diet - broccoli, spinach, celery, tuna/chicken/or eggs w/ olive oil/vinegar - for a little over a month and I went from latching onto a glob of fat on my waist to only being able to grab a spec. Though that was of course with 40-50 minutes of walking a day added on. It just got so boring everyday that I gave up.
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>>135563777
rice cooker is a nosey scam, all you need to cook a rice is a pan, salt, butter, water and of course rice.

Lived some time in Pajeetland, Pajeets taught me how to cook godly rice.
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>>135548512

Instead of striving to be better they just complain that others don't have it as bad as them.

You should want to get to a point where all you have is "first world problems"
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>>135558762
That's some pretty good squat mobility
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>>135562886
Fage was super low in sugar in comparison to the others. Usually 1/3rd as much or lower. Had to add local honey though to make it edible.
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>>135562622

Yo Hold up white boi. What do you think you be doin' wif dat lettuce? is you some kind o' white supremacist? sho 'nuff! Imma call da fuzz on yo ass white boi
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>>135563962
Meh, i cook it like i cook pasta most of the time
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>>135563369
No. Not anymore. However, it's $1 per pound of bone-in chicken thighs with skin. So the point still stands that the people complaining about US food prices are simply too lazy, dumb or attention whoring.
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I am a student and live off of 1150 usd a month, about 820 usd goes to paying rent and utilities. Then I have to pay 55 usd a month for public transport services. That leaves 275 for food and other stuff for a month. 69 usd a week. 10 usd a day.

And I live in Oslo which is ranked one of the most expensive cities in the entire world, and I really don't feel poor at all. There are rarely any moments where I have felt poor or restricted because of money.

I still buy weed, I still get drunk every weekend, I still eat whatever I want, I still order food once in a while and usually getting in 3-dinner type meals a day, as well as snacks and breakfast. I can afford this because I know how to cook, but I often eat out as well.
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>>135563683
well congratulations sunshine, you can get pus fluid for 1/5th the normal price of 90% of the country.
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>>135563913
>This only makes me more confused.
then skip the yogurt process and drink whole milk, the eternal anglos choice drink
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>>135549399

growing up in my "rich white people neighborhood" aka a normal middle class suburb we were the only ones with a backyard garden.

We still did pizza night on thursdays, but we ate local greek pizza, not some Domino's or Papa Ginos BS
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>>135559510
Florida checking in

Just bought bulk pack fresh Boneless chicken breast 1 hour ago @ 1.69/lb

Pre-bagged frozen chicken Breast is $10 for 4lb
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>>135548512
> 'Clean eating' is a preoccupation of people who, in socioeconomic terms, really don't have any real, legitimate worries. It's a first-world problem."

Being surrounded by manufactured, highly-processed, corn-syrup laden, mass-produced, machine-made, scientifically-enriched stuff you put into your face is a "first world problem"

eating vegetables that come out of the ground and animals that didn't eat the aforementioned bullshit is a 5000BC-world problem
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>>135564141

why cant you reddit fags just stay on reddit, noboddy gives a fuck about your slightly but yet so identical life story. you are nothing and nobody, go fuck off and die
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>>135550629

processed food is expensive as fuck compared to fresh vegetables and meat cuts
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>>135548512
>It's classist to buy veggies and lean meats and spices that go along with those ingredients to make healthy food for a family of 5 all for the low cost of an average $7-9 USD
Stupid niggers no wonder you're fat and dying.
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>>135564088
I used to did the same, but now I do it like this:

>take a pan
>put clarified butter in a pan (Pajeets use ghee) and heat it
>put rice and fry it for a minute in a butter
>add a bit of salt, you can add some other spices if needed (a bit of cumin works great)
>add water
>put a lid on a pan
>don't stir
>wait till the rice absorbs the water

Very easy and rice starts to have a taste on it's own.
Also Italobro why do you have so godly Arborio and Arborio that I can buy in Poland is some shit-tier rubbish that doesn't hold itself properly?
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>>135559264
>>135559642
>>135560146
>>135560493
>>135560681

this was a pretty cool conversation tbqhfamlamisgiditty
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>>135563189
Necessity is the mother of invention. Preservation paved the path for many delicious styles of cooking, but their origin still lies in preservation.
However, in India they use spice to cover the taste of poo.
>>
http://meatdeal.com/weekly_special.php
>in detroit.
>doesn't do $50/week meat fest.
>smile now, cry later, die bloated.
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>>135563913
>kefir
>This only makes me more confused.

Do you not know how to google?

>It just got so boring everyday that I gave up.

How the hell is eating boring? Watch a movie while you eat. Add cheese, nuts, and fruit into the salad; blueberries.

Add in bacon. Make your chicken better, get a sous vide machine and you can have fall off the bone juicy chicken.
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>>135564576
rice barely have any nutrients it in. its not a healthy to eat just rice unless you are some kind of frugal nutjob
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>>135563639
2 bucks is normal in my area as well anon. Wtf are you buying, gold flake encrusted chicken breasts?
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>>135564576
>Also Italobro why do you have so godly Arborio and Arborio that I can buy in Poland is some shit-tier rubbish that doesn't hold itself properly?

Probably has to do with the market, i'm guessing it's mechanically selected so high-paying countries get better rice. It costs like 3€ x kg here (that's a lot for rice)
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>>135558433
>most of the ones that do exist there have armed guards.

my ghetto grocery in NYC has this lol

They have all the essentials and basics, so I can eat good. But all the poor blacks go to McDonald's across the street, or order takeout
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>>135560754
Too complicated
I put this shit on everything
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>>135564182
I think you're jealous.
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>>135563639
average price around my area
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>>135557643
move out of alaska you dipshit. Chicken breasts are about $2/lb where i live.
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>>135564368
>not eating Domino's on Pizza Friday
>eating pizza... on Thursday
And you call yourself American
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>>135564835

>cooking your meat in BPA bags

Good zogling
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>>135563777
>that spacing
FUG OFF NOIRMIE REDDITY RWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>135563189
>Pajeet doesn't understand the primary uses of spices
>in fucking india

Spices were absolutely used for flavour in the west, because it had to be imported and was a novelty. In the east where the spices grow at the fucking roadside people used it to cover up meat that sat a little too long among other things, and the upper classes usually ate food that was lightly or not spiced at all.

Though I can see you not knowing this. Spices were mostly used in India to enduce "intestinal distress" and ensure maximum coverage, and an even coating, of the designated streets
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postmodernism at its finest ayy
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>>135564835
>how the hell
I try to avoid people so I go to the grocery store at midnight and also the same time for the gym. It's extremely hard for me to talk to anyone in order to get advice so I'm left here on the internet goolging with the understanding that 99% of people have no idea what they are talking about. Which usually leads me to further avoiding anything people suggest, which then makes me even more desperate for advice. It's a never ending process.
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>>135565008
Probably, I lived in Italy for a couple of weeks and loved to prepared home-made risotto using basic Gallo's Arborio. It was delicious.

Bought the same Gallo's Arborio in Poland (costed me 1.60 EUR for 400grams) and despite a few attemps it ended being a white, starchy pulp. Worst thing I order risotto in trattorias here in Poland that either have Italian owners or chefs and 30% or risottos are shit. It has to be rice, because this very same chefs serve godly pasta.

>>135564848
Nothing bad in eating it time to time when it fits the dish you make.
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>>135551675
or 133 tendies from Burger King
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>>135564848
Define nutrients. Rice has average nutrients if we are talking grains, and grains should ideally be at least 50% of your calories if you want to be a productive human being.
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>>135564835
>Do you not know how to google?
I meant how you said that the yogurt is filth at grocery stores, but wouldn't store bought milk be no different?
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>>135565246
OOPS MEABNT POST THIS EEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>135551042
Mongolia, Egypt, and Italy look comfy as fuck.
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>>135562852
3oz of meat (cooked) would contain 15-20 grams of protein. How many times per day do you eat that? How much do you weigh?
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>>135565313
>upper class ate food that was not spiced
Yeah tell me more about my own country, lmao they were definitely used by every part of the society and the upper class was the only people who could afford real spices
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>>135565370

I share your antisocial tendencies but really anon, most of what you are looking for is already online and easy to find

http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-yogurt-at-home-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-125070
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>>135565225
>>cooking your meat in BPA bags

Nope: http://nomnompaleo.com/post/12463202060/cooking-sous-vide-plastic-safety

"The key is to stick with vacuum bags that are free of BPA, phthalates, and other plasticizers. It’s the plasticizers – chemical additives like phthalates that increase the pliability and fluidity of the plastic – that contain EA."
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>>135565406
>Bought the same Gallo's Arborio in Poland (costed me 1.60 EUR for 400grams) and despite a few attemps it ended being a white, starchy pulp.
I lived some months in poland and it's worth mentioning that you guys have shit water,and that could be a factor in this. Seriously i remember that even bottled water was pretty bad.
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>>135565675
>most of what you are looking for is already online and easy to find
see
>>135565466
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>>135559666

I know, Satan, I was just about to comment on those soft, pink, fattie fingers
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>>135565428
if you don't incoporate any meat or at least something with high protein/carb content you gonna feel weak at some point.
unless you have skelly body type
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>>135565370
iktf
social anxiety is a bitch
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>>135551042

Mongolia looks tasty as fuck.
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>>135565077
Nothing wrong with premade seasonings, I use this a lot
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>>135565370

This site does a good job of linking to research and sharing personal stories of success. You can ask questions on their forums.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/success-stories-home/
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>>135550416
I won't lie it looks pretty good
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>>135565725

Oh. Well I've heard that store-bought milk is inferior but I suppose I can hardly tell since I've been drinking it for so long, so it's a lot better than nothing. And I do live reasonably close to the major dairies in my province so I assume they aren't pouring too much shit into their product. What do you have to lose?
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>>135563531
What's the logistics involved? How much space do you need to raise chickens, what's the production rate, food cost and maintenance time?
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>>135565466
>wouldn't store bought milk be no different?

The problem with yogurt is too much added sugar (maybe you can find a no sugar label) and then the live cultures have been killed in pasteurizing. Home made kefir keeps live cultures and has no added sugar.
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>>135565706
Where did you live?
I live in southern Poland and tap water here is pretty good (decent amount of minerals), bottled mineral water is great.
Only flaw is that you need to decalcify your cooking equipment a lot.
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>Oy vey, the goys aren't buying our sugar and corn-syrup poison anymore! What are we gonna do?

>The same thing we always do, Goldberg. We'll tell 'em they're bein' racist.
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>>135565851

I used to be snobby about stuff like "onion powder" and what-not but as I became a better cook I realized that all that matters is if the finished dish tastes good, not whether it's "authentic" or boasts organic ingredients lovingly harvested by virginal Peruvian maidens or any of that kind of shit
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>>135562339
You had your oven set to "Jew".
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>>135550416
WE
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>>135565370
Anon, you need to switch your virgin beta cuck diet into a CHAD DIET. I can tell your brain is being held back by your inability to properly fuel it.

You are what you eat. Eat garbage, become garbage.
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>>135562501
Based Lidl
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>>135548512
They're retards who eat junk food and will suffer for it.

Fuck 'em
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>>135565557
I mean, I can greentext what I already wrote.

>I weigh 195lbs, so I need roughly 85-90g protein a day. I eat my little stir fry bowls 4 times a day. 3oz meat is >20g protein each
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>>135559839
>don't use oil/butter
>use margarine instead
nigger olive oil and butter is more healthy than the alternatives they offer
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>>135566019
Łódź, yea probably it's a big city thing, i noticed that generally big cities have shit tap water. The bottles were pretty bad too but I acknowledge that I was buying the cheapest ones.
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>>135565851
>tfw I have to research everything I buy for hours on end in order to be better acquainted with what I'm purchasing
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>>135566477
He said don't fry shit. So don't fry shit.
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>>135566237
>buying a book
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>>135564046
Proof Slavs aren't white
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>>135560909
>Who the fuck else eats chitlins, pigs feet and all the rest of that shit.
I do. Pig foot and chitterling are fucking delicious.
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>>135566477
>use margarine instead
Where the fuck did I write that? I said don't fry shit. Olive oil is fucking sacred m8
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>>135562990
here have another and heil hitler
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>>135563962
I know.
The point I was making was some anon was saying that "needing to have a stove and pans" was too much to ask. Rice cooker removes needing a stove from the equation. A thriftstop hotplate and pot could be just as effective.
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>>135566544
this is what im planning to do
fuck the jews
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>>135566543
>Łódź
Łódź is like polish Detroit, but 100% white.
Also yeah, no idea what is in the cheapest bottled water, but Cisowianka or Muszynianka are crazy good and probably on par with Swiss mineral waters.
Also quality varies from city to city. This source say my city has pretty good tap water.
http://krakowexpats.pl/utilities/krakows-tap-water-safe-to-drink/
Different sources agree, but you need to remeber what's in the pipes too.
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>>135566544
Don't fall into that trap, there's A LOT of nutrition misinformation spread around by food corporations pushing their agendas.

Of course reading ingredients and the nutritional facts is important but at the end of the day, a proper balance of greens, meats, fruits, nuts, and grains is ideal over trying to slave yourself into a 'proper' diet that 'they' said you 'should' eat. Their studies and conclusions change so much what's considered healthy today is completely different to what they were suggesting 10 years ago. Just stick to raw ingredients that you cook yourself and find foods that taste good. The body is surprisingly good at regulating what you want and need to eat. (unless you fill it with instant/fast foods with taste additives to desenstise your brain for what it really needs) It'll automatically make foods you need taste good. Learn how to respond to your body first before going too deep and losing yourself.
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>>135565949

The coop itself is the size of a large camping tent maybe if you're talking ten or a dozen chickens. (Mine is an A-frame thrown together with surplus boards and doors from a wharf.) You can have or two roosters and the rest hens (though unneeded roosters usually get bullied and end up in the pot). You also need a yard to run them around in if you have grass growing in the summer and all that. Don't know the minimum square footage since my yard is pretty big. Lots of eggs, 6-8 per day in summer. In winter they spend all their time inside the coop (especially once it snows) and their egg production drops, though you can still eke out 3-4 eggs per day with a little LED light. If you feed them a little powdered charcoal their shit doesn't stink nearly as much and it becomes garden-ready right away, rather than having to age in a compost pile.
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>>135559703
Holy Christ if you cannot budget over a three year span to fix a sink you have bigger issues. Literally over one year 1000 is less than 3 dollars a day.
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>>135561210
Bruh a bunch of spinach is like a dollar in America
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>>135559703
What exactly is wrong with the sink?
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>>135561931
they have fry's grocery stores in AZ you nigger
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>>135565518
>see praragraph-esque separation of thoughts
>get nazi jimmies in a rustle
>rustlin so bad fucks up basic motor functions trying to rage post
newfag cant triforce
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>>135566085
Hell, I used to think the microwave was bad... it's just another tool in the kitchen, just like premade seasonings and more. the kitchen is one of the areas filled with misinformation thanks to pretentious blokes
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>>135567607

Even in my Godforsaken socialist shithole frozen spinach is pretty cheap (and each 1/2 can be used for a decent soup, rice, or pasta dish)
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>>135566477
Avocado oil FTW
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>>135567797

Agree about the microwave, I think either James Beard or Jacques Pepin (can't remember which -- maybe it was both) said the same thing. It's like any other tool, great for the things it can't do, misapplied for the things it can't.
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>>135562285
hey faggot i do and the guy i buy from is named John and i have always been a supporter of eating locally the food is always better quality because it didnt have to travel weeks to get to you.
here in florida its not very hard to get local grass fed beef and local vegetables but fuck you for implying i didnt eat local faggot
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>>135565851
>using ground up italians as seasoning
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>>135564576
Ghee is good as fuck and repairs your gut from years of food abuse. I never use plain butter anymore
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>>135566799
>implying being proud of my race is a bad thing.
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>>135567240
I meant more so looking at sites like
http://www.whfoods.com/foodstoc.php
and reading countless forum threads where people discuss different brands and types of food.
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>>135568214
I'm giggling at this like a retard hearing his own fart
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>>135557643
Fuck, I guess Americans get better food prices. I shop in some shithole grocery stores to get good prices on meat. I can get about 1.1kg of chicken breast for $10 and about 1.3kg of chicken thighs/drumsticks for about $10. A 2L container of skim milk costs about $4. I went to a super expensive store yesterday to buy fresh coffee and I looked at the chicken and they were selling 0.9kg of chicken breasts for $23. I laughed audibly and people stared at me. I live in Toronto too, so maybe that's why food is somewhat expensive.
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>>135567928
>Even in my Godforsaken socialist shithole frozen spinach is pretty cheap (and each 1/2 can be used for a decent soup, rice, or pasta dish)
The low cost of frozen spinach made it one of my go to ingredients. I make a stew with various dried beans, chickpeas, onions, potato and spinach. I spice it with like cumin and turmeric and it usually turns out pretty good.
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>>135566763
>likes black food
>flag checks out
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>>135559941
kek'd hard
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>>135568311
Pardon my ignorance, wtf is ghee? My neighborhood has an assload of poo in the loos so I'm sure a pajeet market is close
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>>135568524
Get bacon, cut it raw into small pieces. Cook in a pan until it's bacon bits. Take it out. Cook sliced Brussels sprouts in the bacon fat with some minced garlic. Add spinach at the end.

Eat this with any meat. Or eat this with eggs. Very fucking good
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>>135568669
>wtf is ghee
Poo in the loo clarified butter
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>>135568783
That actually sounds good. may well try that
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>>135568539
>american niggers invented pig foot and giblets
Yeah, yeah, y'all kangz invented them food.
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>>135568669
It is butter with the nasty shit that gives you lactose intolerance and fucks up your gut taken out. Clarified grass fed butter.

It tastes like hazelnut to me sometimes.

People with severe lactose intolerance can usually eat it.

Also if your gut is an issue, buy aloe vera and drink it. Or, buy a rotisserie chicken, eat the meat, put the carcass in a crock pot overnight with salt and vinegar, and some veggies. Strain it. Drink the broth.
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>>135568816
What gives it mysterious gut repair powers? Will it give my lunkers true asphalt clinging vitality?
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>>135568488
>wtf is kg
>convert kg to lbs
>.9 kg = 1.9 lbs
>.9 kg for $23 USD
>somewhat expensive
GET OUT OF CANADA. THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS AND SHOULD BE A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.
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>americans can't even eat butter without being sick
And these are the people telling I eat like a nigger...
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>>135568669

http://www.instructables.com/id/Home-Made-Ghee/

Never done this myself, but I had heard about it before and this thread made me curious about possibly making it at home
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>>135569028
I like aloe drinks, but the ones I can find have ass loads of added sugars. I eat rice on the daily and will try to find some of this "gheet" to step up my game.
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>>135567240
I dont know what this faggot is rambling about but the italian seasoning mix from McCormick(pictured) has only dried herbs and has zero additives.
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>>135569425
i use kerry gold butter most dairy in the US is tainted and made from puss milk
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>>135548512
Why can't niggers just buy some god damn potatoes and rice and shit. I mean come on its cheap as shit and healthier than a fucking pizza. Is it a rich white people thing to buy cheaper and healthier food? The fuck is this bitch even talking about.
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>>135569439
Might give it a go
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>>135551042
CHAD drinks WATER and EATS millet while you JERK OFF to ANIME
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>>135568427
That's a great list of foods! But really, it doesn't take a genius and meticulous forum hunting to know how to read ingredient labels and nutritional facts. The only opinion that matters out of all the 7.8 billion people is yours.
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>>135551042
>chad eats dirt while you workout in the gym
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>>135569675
hey im half a nigger and i eat pretty fucking good, but thats because i watch my father die a slow death from pancreatic cancer so i am a little biased
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>>135569311
Not USD lad, $23 Canadian dollarinos, which is essentially monopoly money. However, we don't get paid much more than Americans. Minimum wage is like $11.50 right now I think. Places like Toronto and Vancouver are really expensive. An average months rent for an apartment in Toronto is about $1800. Canada is a strange place lad. I went to America two summers ago and every store and mall I went to in Pennsylvania had job openings. I thought it was crazy because there are no jobs here.
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>>135561327
fuck YOU buddy, bread is awesome
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>>135555387
Its how they bring low tier food like chicken etc to a ok level, theyre whole cooking is limited to low class food which is how muh spicees gon guddie macroni mhmm develops, whites can afford food where 3cm layer of spices isnt necessary
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>>135570054
you didnt even post an example. are you scared? post an example.
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>>135568214
>using ground up italians as seasoning
>You are what you eat
This is my only choice in becoming Italian
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