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Facecuck and Jewgle are on life support, the free-with-ads model is dead. What comes next?

>http://wolfstreet.com/2017/07/28/procter-gamble-slashed-digital-ad-spending-what-happened-next/
>So P&G cut over $100 million out of its digital advertising spend in the fourth quarter, and this is what happened, according to Moeller: “We didn’t see a reduction in the growth rate.” And he added, “What that tells me is that that spending that we cut was largely ineffective.
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>>135534190
Gulags
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>>135534190
They inadvertently FUCKED THEMSELVES by being ad nazi's on youtube. Because now these companies realize who the fuck wants to see laundry detergent ads.
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>>135534305
Canada, you're scaring me. What have you and FEMA been doing up there?
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>>135534190
Fuck me. Here I was knowing this would happen but no one believed me. "hurr durr the print shop isn't profitable, we need to find a new business field!!" "i know!! Online marketing!!" "wow that sounds great!! Let's do it!" "please not" "no lets do it"

At least it costs nothing to get started. Won't be hiring anyone though.
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>>135534190
And nothing of value will be lost.
Fuck those advertising addicted jews.
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end of clickb8
end of internet "personalities"
end of instagram "influencers"
end of data mining and privacy abuse
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The idea of paying directly to content creators is gonna be the new model
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>>135534190
As much as I want this to be true, one company cutting ad spending is hardly the same as facejew being on life support. We should meme this into reality though
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>>135534999
Trump is going to anti trust the fuck out of Amazon, Google, Faceobook, etc etc
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>>135534999
>We should meme this into reality though
Trips of truth. Why do you think I made this thread?
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>>135534956
So like instagram influencers? Because I doubt thats very effective
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>>135535120
no like patreon type shit for youtubers except fuck a company deciding who they can have and who they cant have on their service
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>>135535120
If you haven't noticed. Big corporations are getting a lot of scrutiny from the public and from the president.
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>>135535120
Something like Minds for social networking and something like Patreon for creative content.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minds

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patreon
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>>135535060
That would make me fucking diamonds. Has he already mentioned this? First I've heard of him coming after facebook
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>>135534999
Boom. The next meme war. The next frontier.
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>>135534190
The fact that once big companies started dying the banning of net neutrality began to become widespread is not coincidental.
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>>135535274
He's already called Amazon a monopoly. Hasn't let the AT&T merger go through. and theres some other shit too hes done im sure.
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>>135534625

I think they were really depending on Dems winning and Facebook becoming like a Public Service.
But with Trump in power, they can't get memed into being a part of our life, like a telephone, so they're taking a huge business hit.

I'm glad, they are not profitable. It's just a giant tech company (like Google and Tesla) with too much free money that burns it on stupid projects.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3634438/facebook-ai-robots-develop-own-language/
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>>135534190
Do you have any idea how much wasted ad spend is out there? It's fucking criminal.

t. digital advertiser
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>>135535260
read the minds article just now

Give me the skinny pls
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>>135534190
>What comes next?

The end of steady work, mass unemployment, the big crash we averted in 2008 by pumping debt money and inflation into the economy.

Life is never going back to normal you dumb goy. Now obsess about darkies some more while we continue hiding our assets.
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>>135535371
This is more important than the CNN front, in my opnion. Can we get some memes akin to the CNN ones but with the facebook logo instead?
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>>135535600
He touched on the two most common complaints about digital advertising scams:

Advertisers are paying for ads that are viewed and clicked on by bots, not humans.
Ads are placed by thousands of automated “ad exchanges” that are out of control of the advertiser on sites and pages that don’t match the advertiser’s products.


So P&G cut over $100 million out of its digital advertising spend in the fourth quarter, and this is what happened, according to Moeller: “We didn’t see a reduction in the growth rate.” And he added, “What that tells me is that that spending that we cut was largely ineffective.”
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>>135535600
tl;dr on it is it's fueled by microtransactions
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>>135535571
For (You)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouE-CcwE8Ls
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>>135534190

maybe digital advertising can soon stop being the go-to numale profession and they have to get real jobs
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>>135535571
>Do you have any idea how much wasted ad spend is out there?

Sauce or resources to find out how much plox
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>>135535389
Explain pls
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>>135535274
amazon he is definately. Amazon abused its ownership of WaPo to blackmail politicians into passing and retaining legislation that gave them an unfair advantage. Bad press is a politicians kryptonite after all.

As for Facebook and Google. He played this perfectly. He is threatening to turn those into public utilities. Basically, he is using their arguments on Net Neutrality against them. If they try to force NN on the people, he will take away their whole industry insisting that falls under the same scope, and having big companies like Facebook and Google remain private lets them take advantage of the people leaving them little options.
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>>135535260
"Minds" is the stupidest fucking name - what a bunch of socially inept retards.
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>>135536247
>what a bunch of socially inept retards.
Who else would develop new software?
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>>135535060
>Trump is going to anti trust the fuck out of Amazon, Google, Faceobook, etc etc

TRUE
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>>135536088
>>135535389
I agree, slav, I don't see how the two are conneted.
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>>135536112
>silicon valley jews want to kill the ISPs with NN
>tfw Trump kills the silicon valley jews in the exact same manner
Please make it happen.
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>>135536112
Oh wow, I had no idea (((Amazon))) was so fucked.
If anything Trump is showing us that there is always a way to outjew the jew, I have faith we will win this war and all those CEO faggots will wish they had stopped while they were still ahead. The problem is that these people aren't satisfied with taking an inch...they will continue to take and take from the American people until there is nothing left, and then turn around and say we are killing hollywood because a movie ticket costs more than an hour of work for most people
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>>135536346
Kek
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>>135536346
Solid point - it just still surprises me how few have learned this lesson about getting someone competent at marketing involved.
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>>135536555
Checked
Praise Kek and praise Trump for getting us out of this mess
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>>135535984

The next wave of jobs and job growth in the United States could and SHOULD come from a federal initiative involving infrastructure, modern transportation, light rail and the reclamation of landfill sites (clean up, recycling of viable materials, etc).

But first we need to keep fighting the ISIS boogeymen and wasting money on Europe.
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>>135534411
This. Internet ads are shit unless it's native advertising/shilling.
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>>135534190
A new dotcom crash. All these """senior-programmers""" who have appeared in last 3-4 years will be jumping out of windows.
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>>135534616
Some of you burgers are alright. Don't go to Toronto in the next three weeks.
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>>135537119
Mass jewicide
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>>135534190

They want socialism so damn bad, why don't they practice what they preach?
Actors, musicians, e-celebs, Facejewgletubegram, all that shit. If they think giving everybody free shit is the way to go then fucking do it.
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>>135537243
TELL MORE
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>>135537246
Jewicide? Haven't seen a single jewish programmer yet.

No, these are the youngest millennials. Useless smug pseudo-intellectuals who happened to have high salaries because of an IT bubble.
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>>135537243
T-thailand-san, w-what do you mean?
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>>135534190
What made these idiots think that advertisement works? The concept has been dead since Gen X rejected it.

Pic related is the beginning of the end. This is a soda brand called "OK" that the kikes tried to appeal to the disaffected, advertisement immune Gen Xers. The concept of the nihilistic packaging and brand was to appeal to people who didn't care.

laughably and predictably it didn't work. I don't know why kikes spend BILLIONS on advertisement. Fucking why?
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>>135534190
TAX ON ADVERTISING
>TAX ON ADVERTISING
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>>135534190
I said this years ago to a friend that wanted YouTube cash who seemed like a huge know-it-all about it.
>I don't see how these skippable and easily passable ads are going to sustain themselves, surely marketing will see that the ads are not reaching the audience and people aren't buying product on YouTube ads, or at least not enough to warrant spending the millions upon millions for this shit
>No dude you're stupid think about the audience you're reaching, hundreds of millions of people use Facebook and YouTube, it's a gold mine
Fuck you Kyle, that ship sailed and it's all tumbling down like I fucking said it would
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>>135536555
Trips of truth. Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.
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>>135535108
>Trips

stopped reading here
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>>135537585
I remember drinking that.

It wasn't horrible.
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>>135534887
A guy can dream
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>>135537744
>7744

I guess that confirms it
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>>135537821
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>>135536944
>The next wave of jobs and job growth in the United States could and SHOULD come from a federal initiative involving infrastructure, modern transportation, light rail and the reclamation of landfill sites (clean up, recycling of viable materials, etc).
I like your plan but dump light rail for highspeed rail. everything else is excellent. Landfills are filled with refined material we just threw away.
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>tfw companies changing to a pay model will increase adoption to bitcoin

Unless you're ordering something shipped to your door, why would you want your private information attached to a service?
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>>135535961
Top kek
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>>135537482
>>135537540
I'm not entirely sure you guys can handle this stuff. Suffice it to say that I've been in Thailand for five weeks anticipating a move by the (((current government))) that would cause certain (((suspects with unknown nationalities))) to be less than happy. I'll go back to Canada in 3-5 weeks when I know for sure that I've weathered the shitstorm.
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I dont think we can judge based on a toothpaste company. Folks will buy toothpaste no matter what and no one is going to buy an extra tube because of a facebook ad.

Now if some high end fashion joint had the same experience...
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>>135534190
The real value in Facebook, et al, lies in serving social media campaigns that casual users don't even realize are advertisements. Also: promoting or hiding items in people's feeds; controlling trends.
They can't sell this openly to would-be customers, that's the problem they face.
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>>135537826
>I remember drinking that.
>It wasn't horrible.
lol, are you trying to kill me with irony? "It wasn't horrible™" might have even been their slogan.
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>>135538328
What a load of bullshit. Take that alex jones conspiracy shit back to whatever swamp you crawled out of.
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>>135534190

Maybe those sites can go back to their original glory, or at least some modern incarnation of it.
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>>135538319
>I dont think we can judge based on a toothpaste company.
P&G is a gigantic corporation, not a "toothpaste company".

I haven't seen ads in 6 years due to not having a television and using a multitude of adblockers online. Advertisement has been dead and useless for decades now and it's a fake "industry".
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>>135534411
>Because now these companies realize who the fuck wants to see laundry detergent ads.
>tfw their will now be youtubers who promote laundry detergent, exclusively, like others do with make-up

T-that's not a thing yet, is it?
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>>135537724
Kyle here: Fuck you Tom.
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>>135538525
You're a fucking idiot if you think that's a conspiracy
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>>135538328
Facebook isn't a profitable model. They sell nothing and their users aren't even their customers. It operates like a shell company.

Eventually people will want to stop spending billions on these e-startup shithole companies that provide no content, service or tangible good. It's like a religion without religion. It's a simulacra. A copy without an original.
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>>135536944
>federal spending is growth
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>>135538525
Mass perception influence is easily done with social media. Not control, I should say, but influence.

Do you think that where this power exists and can be used, humans will not use it? I agree, not to some apocalyptic end. All I'm saying is that this is where huge value lies with them. Someone will want it. Do you think they won't sell it?

Look in the marketing & advertising sections of a book store. Look for books on managing social media campaigns, public relations, etc. It's all there.
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>>135538525
Welcome to /pol/, you seem to be lost.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0142390

This is only one on facebook. There have been many on all social media platforms for years.
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>>135538277
YAY Toronto, Scarbrack, Markflem will burn
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>>135537585

>"beverage" in quotes

Well then what the fuck are you drinking?
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>>135538661
> Baby Care Fabric Care Family Care Feminine Care Grooming Hair Care Home Care Oral Care Personal Health Care Skin & Personal Care

Their divisions as per the wikipedia. Which division is going to be effected by a facebook ad? Soap? Tampons? Nappies?

Of the stuff they sell, no one would buy extra because it appeares on facebook.
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They need to personalize ads better. I've had a YouTube and Google account for years there's no reason it's should still show me ads for shit I constantly skip, and never even look up.
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>>135538155
the problem is most normies dont give a shit. the effort of figuring out how to use bitcoin is worse to them than the prospect of giving away personal info. I'm sure it will get more convenient, but that just gives more leeway for the government to hide stuff in the """convenience""""
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>>135534887
lol, their golden age is just beginning
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>>135539040
This is admittedly guesswork on my part, but:
I think Zuckerberg knew from the get-go that the real value in Facebook would be (1) the data collected on a billion people and (2) the platform's influence over the information they receive.

Or maybe he didn't see this coming just like everyone else. I'm not insisting I'm right, but I don't think the former should just be written off.
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>>135539040
Facebook does provide a service though.
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>>135534190
Well, they're not, but we should be so lucky. I want them to be forced to push a platform that is so bad the public will trigger a mass boycott.
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>>135538277
Are you gonna enjoy some boipucci while you're there?
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>>135538277
tell us more. Are you with Glyn?
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>>135534887
>end of clickb8
maybe
>end of internet "personalities"
>end of instagram "influencers"
check
>end of data mining and privacy abuse
nope, this is gettitg worse
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>>135539460
This. Facebook is a part of DARPAs total information awareness initiative. AI is being developed (or has been) that models you based on the information you have provided. This is like future prediction type of stuff.
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they make money selling off peoples information too, which Prism probably relies on too, presumably ensuring some funding to keep that info coming to (((them)))
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>>135534190
just wait
this will be the start of a mass exodus of kikebook to here
hiroshimoot will let it happen in exchange for dollar bills
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>>135539266
>Well then what the fuck are you drinking?
That's why I posted it. "OK" soda was possibly the most bizarre example of the death throws of the advertisement """industry""".
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>>135534999
Forget farcebark, I'm going back to myspace.
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>>135534190

Hmm let's see P&G puts out a retarded article about how they suck at digital ads, they pretty much admit they wasted 100$mln. And we're concluding that all digital ads suck...?

What's more likely:
1. P&G is shit and nobody wants to buy their
shit and they make shitty ads and blame the industry.
2. The entire 200B$ industry is actually failing because P&G lost 100M$ with their shitty ads.
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>>135540011
>P&G is shit and nobody wants to buy their shit and they make shitty ads and blame the industry.
But anon, they maintained their growth rate after dropping the ads. People want to buy their shit, they just ignore the ads.
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>>135538938
My name is also Kyle K Kylington
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>>135539294
>Their divisions as per the wikipedia. Which division is going to be effected by a facebook ad? Soap? Tampons? Nappies?
>Of the stuff they sell, no one would buy extra because it appeares on facebook.
exactly. Who gives a shit.

You want to see something really disgusting? Look at this:
https://www.amazon.com/Dash-Buttons/b?ie=UTF8&node=10667898011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1lrQgXa6pY
These "Amazon Dash Buttons" also cost $5 a piece.

You're supposed to put all these physical ad buttons all around your house. It's fucking insanity.
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the fact that facebook is known to mine and sell data, and that they've openly admitted to fucking with the emotions of tens or hundreds of thousands of its users as an (((experiment))), it's amazing so many people still use it as their main site like sheep.
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>>135538319
>Folks will buy toothpaste no matter what

Not true, you can use baking soda instead. It's infinitely cheaper.
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>>135539166
> http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0142390
That is a kick-ass link. Thanks.

>>135539833
That is another angle: the US military and security organizations see massive value in these platforms. Incredible predictive power if you can analyze the system's history (how activity looked before, during, and after a major event), then use that to make predictions.

If you set a sufficiently powerful AI on the data, it can find patterns you didn't even know to look for.
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>>135539460
>I think Zuckerberg knew from the get-go that the real value in Facebook would be (1) the data collected on a billion people and (2) the platform's influence over the information they receive.
but the little rat-jew still has to make money. He isn't the government and doesn't collect taxes from citizens. That being said, there is a reason why some nations have banned Facebook because they want to protect their citizens from foreign spying.
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>>135539312
>They need to personalize ads better. I've had a YouTube and Google account for years there's no reason it's should still show me ads for shit I constantly skip, and never even look up.
This. The all-knowing corporate big brother really needs to step up its game.

I keep seeing beer, whiskey, vodka, etc. ads even though I don't drink.
I keep seeing pad and tampon ads even though I'm not a fucking woman.
I keep seeing ads for horror movies even though I don't watch that shit and always skip them if I can.
I keep seeing obnoxious fucking ads with rap music, showing off some rap celebrity I don't even recognize, or trying to sell me some black people shit like Air Jordans even though I'm not fucking black.
I even see ads in Spanish every now and then even though I don't speak Spanish, my IP's location is on the East Coast thousands of miles away from the Mexican border, and I don't type in Spanish, don't visit Spanish-language sites, or do anything else in Spanish within google chrome for fuck's sake so they should really know that I'm not a fucking Spanish speaker.

If they're so incompetent at collecting information on me, then just give me a survey of my preferences to fill out myself. Jesus.
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>>135539484
>Facebook does provide a service though.
What service? Allowing people to write their own thoughts, talk to their own friends, post their own pictures and do everything themselves? Is their "service" letting people press the meaningless "Like" button as many times as they want?

Explain what they do. It has to be the most reductive service in the history of humanity.
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>>135534887
We can only hope. I was surprised they convinced all of these companies to spend billions and billions on it through.
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>>135539240
Probably, yes.

>>135539633
No. Despite what /b/ and other pro-faggotry boards tell you, traps are gay.

>>135539642
No idea who that is, but I can tell you that glorious leader has been pissing off the wrong people (or the right ones if you think about it) since Toronto's pride parade. Think this over: you stock your cabinet with as many Muslims as he has, and then openly and unashamedly endorse all things haram.

MPs and MLAs are overwhelmingly becoming "enriched" positions and they answer to constituents who call and email about their champion being an affront to islam. Remember, the moderate ones are the ones that only watch you get run over or blown up. They don't do it themselves.

Montreal is about as volatile as it can get and I wouldn't be shocked if things kicked off there first. Lots of people here will think I'm screwing around, but I made significant life decisions based on the info I had gotten and have several others traveling with me, including my wife and three kids.
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>>135540011
Ads and internet ads are ineffective. Advertisement isn't a real "industry".
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>>135540706
You are correct. But I think if you have something of value to people who can pay, they will find a way to pay you for what they want. Especially true if the people who have to transfer money to you by illicit means are the government themselves.

Certainly Zuckerberg himself doesn't have to worry about money for the rest of his life.

>>135540884
Furthermore, what if I'm a tampon manufacturer and there are women's groups campaigning to have the government subsidize my product? I'm going to do everything I can promote those women's groups. Facebook would just have to be able to sell the ability for me to do that in some surreptitious way.
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>>135534411
Tide challenge?
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>>135534999
>one company

When it comes to advertising and branding, Proctor & Gamble is far more than just one company. They are one of the largest consumer products companies in the world and control well known brands such as Tide, Pampers, Crest and Charmin to name a few. Their brands are instantly recognizable. Harvard Business Review has written countless case studies on P&G. Marketing professionals would give their first born for the opportunity to manage a P&G brand.

TLDR: As P&G goes, so will the rest of the industry
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>>135534887
Youtubers will still be a thing as they'll just be using services like Patreon more.

What is more likely to happen is that youtubers will be doing more advertising for products on their own. Many already get paid to talk about different phone apps, video games, and makeup products, so it'll be a minor change for them.

The problem advertisers are running into is they need to start making deals with youtubers to get them to do advertising for them, because the banner ads and commercials they're doing are just terrible.
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>>135534190
>What comes next?
Divestment, idiot. Youtube isn't profitable. Other letters of the alphabet are. Facebook is retarded though and won't divest as well.

That or they monetize propaganda. Oh, wait, that is advertising.
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>>135541221
>Certainly Zuckerberg himself doesn't have to worry about money for the rest of his life.
If Howard Hughes could die in poverty, collecting piss jars and breaking off needles into his limbs, then one can hope for Zuckerberg.
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>>135541428
Alex Jones really is a fucking pioneer.
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>>135541069
W-wait how many Muslims do Canadians actually have? I thought it was a meme.
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>>135540236
its almost like there is so little choice out there all brands are owned by the same company.
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>>135540236

You have a point. People are still buying their shit, though looking at their stock the 'growth' they're talking about is more like stagnation.
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>MPs and MLAs are overwhelmingly becoming "enriched" positions and they answer to constituents who call and email about their champion being an affront to islam.

TOPKEK. What made you get out of dodge?
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>>135538319
>Why buy normal toothpaste when you can buy the special whitening cavity fighting avocado flavored paste for twice the price? Don't you love your family?
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>>135541159

https://www.statista.com/statistics/237974/online-advertising-spending-worldwide/

Is this just all a waste of money then?
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Bit of a side story but still relevant to this thread:
General Mills approached the animators of Rocky & Bullwinkle in the 1960s to come up with an ad campaign for a cereal. Didn't matter what the cereal was, just come up with a great set of ads.

The animation studio came up with "Captain Crunch" as a character.

General Mills then sent the ads to the lab and had their geeks come up with a cereal to match the ad. They never had a cereal to begin with, they started from what would be marketable.

The point is: the advertising model can work backwards. Come up with a successful campaign and then invent a product or service to attach to it.

The predictive power of what campaign would work or not lies in Facebook's data. We may not have the AI ability yet to put the data to that use, but we eventually will and all this history will be very valuable.
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>>135542077
>Don't you love your family?
No.
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>>135534956
This is much healthier marketing wise and often results in better content.
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>>135542089
lol, yes. Is that hard to believe? Companies thinking they have to pay for advertisement is like people praying in church. It's just something they believe.
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DOT COM BUBBLE 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO!
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Kek at people who believe in data mining.

1 minute i'm watching a documentary on the holocaust, the next i'm watching a national socialist music video, try and figure out my real beliefs corporate America.
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>>135541294
This.
You can bet your ass that other companies will rethink their advertising strategies when fucking p&g considers web advertising a waste
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>>135542126
>The point is: the advertising model can work backwards. Come up with a successful campaign and then invent a product or service to attach to it.
But you're dealing with Gen Xers, Gen Y and Millennials. Not matter what our political persuasion is, we'd all like to holocaust people in the ad industry. There are 3+ generations that either don't give a shit about ads or outwardly loathe them. "Advertisement" doesn't work. It's just something Jews use to move their money around.

If fact, it would be a perfect money laundering operation. How else would you believably launder hundreds of billions while doing practically nothing at all?
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>>135534887
>end of data mining and privacy abuse
You fucking wish. Hope you don't like privacy, because privacy is a thing of the past.
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>>135542340
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What happens to things like Patreon and Gofundme?
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>>135542261

I'd believe that for big shitty companies that love making shitty ads because they feel like they have to.

Is it hard to believe that companies with something interesting to sell actually find that holy shit, if I run ads online, I get more customers?
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>>135534190
lurk bump
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>>135541742
Look at Zucc's face. He doesn't have the instincts of a killer it takes to survive when the going gets real tough. Facebook will die, and Zucc will die along with it.
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>>135539040
>>135539484
>>135540918

Facebook did 3 things which allowed them to become incredibly successful:

1. They convinced people to post online using their real names. When FB first came out, it was exclusive to college students; rolled out one university at a time. You kiddies don't remember a time when "The Net" was a scary place someone would steal your identity. Everyone used screen names and was advised not to give out their date of birth.

2. They monetized idle chit chat. This is there service. People have engaged in mindless small talk forever. Now they have a platform to do so.

3. They were at the forefront of mobile advertising. FB really took off in 2008-2009 when smartphones became mainstream. FB's growth is driven primarily by mobile ad spending.

This is why FB succeeded and Myspace bit the dust
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>>135542871
They grow and become the norm. >>135535260
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>>135542611
You are correct, but I was just using this ad campaign as an example. The value lies in the ability to know what will "sell" — whether it's a product or an idea or a political candidate. How you "sell" it does not necessarily mean using an ad campaign.
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>>135542126
Sure it can grandpa.
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>>135541788
In the city centers which account for roughly 30% of Canada's population, the average is around 27% reporting middle eastern decent. If you only account for Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver, the average is significantly higher in the mid 30ish percentile.

>>135542006
When you overhear the Minster of Defence and a top official from CSIS discussing the security risks of being in Toronto between certain dates, and how the presence of the PM will increase those risks tenfold due to "a change in the attitude of the populace" you start listening harder and start deciding whefe would be best to distract your family from how worried you are.

It's 1:30 AM here and I haven't been sleeping very well due to keeping close contact with some friends in the know and watching the news. I HATE seeing Trudeau in the news because it makes me wonder if this is the article that sends someone over the deepend. I wish he'd stop trying to be a celebrity and start addressing the very real and very serious issues that Canadians are putting forth, and stop pandering to "new canadians"
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>>135542957
amen.
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>>135543080
>imblying it's still not a scary place where someone will steal your identity

How does this idea of "flesh names" work into it's success though
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>>135543376
>"grub"
>Eating like regular people

They will eat this dude alive on the political stage.
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>>135534190
>Facecuck on life support

Holy shit you're a fucking idiot.
Facebook is doing incredibly well. Stock at record high.
Literally could not be doing better.

Learn something about business before you post a thread full of stupidity because you read and misunderstood one (1) article. Even your article says so. All this article really means is that P&G need to sort their shit out, not Facebook.
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>>135543080
>They monetized idle chit chat. This is there service. People have engaged in mindless small talk forever. Now they have a platform to do so.
lol, tell that to AOL Instant Message and MSChatRooms. People are disloyal as fuck and eventually they will drop Facebook because they do NOTHING special. Same happened to Live Journal and MySpace.

Some people will just be Tweeting or Instagraming or SnapChatting or Squirtering or FngerBANGing or Sniffing or whatever the next crock of shit social media flavor of the week will be.
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>>135534887
Did you know that the credit bureaus also buy alternative data on you? Like your social media feeds? And sell data on you to anyone who wants to give you a loan, rent you a space, or hire you for a job? Sid you know that your roomba maps your house? And that data is leveraged to market to you? I hate the direction of all of this- it makes me wish for an emp or some sort of natural disaster that could give us a respite from the march toward digital tyranny.
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>>135534887
>>135535060

yeah, none of that will happen
be serious

ITT: people who want shit to happen and unironically think it will because they want it to.
get involved in the real word, people. stop simmering.
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>>135543080
Also deals with CIA dark pool money. It helps when launching a business to have that capital.
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>>135543264
>The value lies in the ability to know what will "sell" — whether it's a product or an idea or a political candidate
LOL, tell that to Hillary and the rest of the DNC who can't seem to buy a vote no matter how much they spend. We're in an era where ads are dead. Again, I haven't personally seen an ad in about 5 years and if one tries to play in a public place I autistically cancel it out like a Buddhist meditating.
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>>135535571
that's on you, dumbass
don't blame others for the space you pay for
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>>135543285
Poochy is a great example. Better than "OK" soda.
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>>135535274
Um..... what is "diamonds"?

Smh- the captcha made me select. Sweater and call it a Coat. Fuck Google.
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>>135543505
It easily shows how disconnected he his to the general public
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>>135534999
SHADILAY
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>>135543337
>30% and 27%

around 8% of Canada is muslim. How did they get there.
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>>135543285
I know you're joking, but (1) obviously like any method it can be implemented badly and (2) of course this only would have worked if they came up with a great character. Poochy is a deliberately constructed example of a bad character.

>>135543929
They were stuck with Hillary as the candidate. I'm talking about a situation in which you ask the campaign and marketing teams what candidate you could give them that they could sell the shit out of, then giving them that candidate. The candidate is secondary to the campaign. Like I said, they were stuck with Hillary from day 1.
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>>135543385
Remember this movie? It was made in 1995

>How does this idea of "flesh names" work into it's success though
You can aggregate a user's FB activity into a psychological/marketing profile and sell it to someone who would find it useful. It is a lot more useful and valuable to know the likes and dislikes of John Smith vs some pseudo anonymous screen name.

Look at store rewards/loyalty programs. Customer purchase data is gold to advertisers. You swipe your Starbucks card every time you buy a coffee and get the 10th one free. The purchasing data is worth far more than the free coffee.
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>>135544052
>That would make my erection as hard as diamonds.
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>>135542126
Cereal is a bit different because it's often just baked corn flakes. Like you make a mush of corn meal and a few vitamins plus sugar and bake it, then boom, corn flakes.
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>>135543765
>or hire you for a job
THIS.

My buddy is responsible for hiring A LOT of people. Whether they know it or not, their social media is examined and if there are pics of them partying, sexual/sexualized shit, or whatever bullshit, they won't be hired. The applicants never know, but if they're stupid enough to post that kind of stuff - which really just shows poor judgement, a failure to plan for the future, and a failure to understand consequences - they don't deserve a good job.
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>>135540585
Actually, brushing is bad for your gums. If you just floss and gargle with water you will be fine.

T. Perfect teeth Chad
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>>135544218
>I'm talking about a situation in which you ask the campaign and marketing teams what candidate you could give them that they could sell the shit out of, then giving them that candidate. The candidate is secondary to the campaign. Like I said, they were stuck with Hillary from day 1.
lol, Obama sort of fits you idea, but it was his approach and his campaign manager that made a difference.

Even still, Romney-droid tried to run and there was nothing anyone could do to make him appealing.

I still disagree with you though. Hillary Clinton's campaign was Humpty Dumpty retold. They had everything behind them, the lastest tech, the best advertisers, the best research marketing teams and it lost.

Why? Because it doesn't work. Advertising doesn't work.
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>>135544479
My friend fell for that meme and got cavities for the first time in his life.
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the fact that facebook is a business is already bullshit
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>>135544574
>Why?
Because HRC was a terrible candidate.
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>>135544581
Works for me - you can reverse cavities. The Jews don't want you to know that though.
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>>135544196
Muslim is a religious affiliation. Declaring religious affiliation is optional on the Canadian census and many choose not to identify their beliefs to the government. Even the most backwards of morons knows not to give more information than is necessary to any official agency. Also, the less info you volunteer, the less time you spend filling out the silly thing. If you answer it entirely, the census is very invasive.
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>>135544836
>FemAnon
How often does that bait derail threads?
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>>135535120
actually I market for the video market place (high end film and photography equipment) we send a few thousand in product (We translates to a few hundred in production costs for us) to influencers who then make a videos that get anywhere from 5,000 - 500,000 views (We send more to the people with a larger audience) and we get large returns, typically a few 100,000 for every 3,000 in product invested.

with Ads we barely break even, some months we profit
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>>135544345
>You can aggregate a user's FB activity into a psychological/marketing profile and sell it to someone who would find it useful.
But the question is, is it actually "useful"? I think this is a conjob. All of this data, how actually scientific and objective is their analysis of it? It sounds more like a "waving of the hands" to make it seems legitimate.

These advertisers and programers are trying to predict human psychology and human action. Are they qualified to do that? Can anyone reliably do that without anecdotes, assumptions and a good heaping of the Dunning-Kruger effect?

I think it's more like "We're spending hundreds of billions on ads. This MUST be doing something and the ad agencies MUST know what they are doing."

It sounds a lot like faith to me.
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>>135542957
is this how you get through life? reading faces?
how's this face? without tin eye, does this person have what it takes?
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>>135543718
Except AOL and MySpace never made any money. Twitter can't make any money and is struggling to add new users. Snapchat told its investors it may never be profitable. FB on the other hand has turned a profit every year it has been a public company and 10 years later shows no signs of slowing down. Clearly they are doing something different that works
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>>135541222
acknowledged
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>>135545048
>It sounds a lot like faith to me.
AD JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL
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>>135534190
They made the mistake of trying to consolidate the internet and give the users impersonal and shitty service. It turns out that people enjoy things like privacy and choices. The future internet will be highly decentralized and everything will be encrypted thanks to the CIA niggers. Alternative operating systems are becoming more popular because people hate the bullshit restrictions and spying in systems like Windows, which is dll hell with shit drivers. The big companies that push out cookie cutter chinkshit are falling. We're going back to a time where the labor of the craftsman will be better than the junk coming off of an assembly line. I'm excited.
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>>135543337
thanks friend
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>>135544409
It's true that "cereal" should just refer to certain grains, oats, or whatever. But today it means brightly-colored sugar puffs you pour milk over.

>>135544574
The difficulty with politicians is that they are self-promoting individuals with backbones, etc. I'm talking about someone who's a proxy, or almost an actor. It's really just a thought experiment; I'm not trying to make a point about anything that's really happened.

Marketing is just influence. Generations are desensitized to current advertising methods because the formulas have been discovered and maxed out, I agree. But there are plenty of new and undiscovered ways to get into people's minds. The internet and social media will almost certainly be the platform for them.
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>>135545048
exactly^^^ plus, none of this propaganda would work against a well-educated(mentally not (((academically)))) populace
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>In the city centers which account for roughly 30% of Canada's population, the average is around 27% reporting middle eastern decent. If you only account for Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver, the average is significantly higher in the mid 30ish percentile.
LOL.
Not even close to true.
Where do you get this bullshit?
your link to source was broken, got a better one?
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>>135543376
Top kek
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>>135545094
yes, look at those sharp features- that's a killer right thur
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>>135534190
>the free-with-ads model is dead.

For facebook, this is not reality. You are the product being sold to advertising companies and nation states. Your information is valuable.

The product is not the shit being sold in your timeline.
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>>135543765
What's the point of a Roomba mapping my house when it's a tract house with the same floor plan as 100s of other houses in the neighborhood. They can literally pull the floorplan from the county assessor office if they want to as well
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>>135545094
Looks like a man in the mid 1950's just out of the military, likely went to college, likely engineering or sciences. Depends on your desired success level. Probably had a decent life, but never achieved one of the high offices of the land.
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>>135545094
That face looks dangerous. Who is it? Reverse image search failed me.
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>>135545496
they can attempt to sell you things based upon the square footage of your dwelling, they can estimate your socioeconomic status and target appropriate material
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>>135544723
>Because HRC was a terrible candidate.
Yes but they couldn't ad their way out of it. They even hired a speech coach so Hillary would sound more like Obama on the campaign trail. NOTHING WORKED. It's bigger than she was a bad candidate. This was something no amount of PR could spin.

And this is a good thing. It means propaganda is ineffective too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5jhE-ztNkk
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>>135536247
refuse to use it cos "MInds" sounds like it's full of people who double up a fedora
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>>135545526
maybe reverse the image and reverse image search again? thank god real AI doesn't exist(jordan peterson framing issue)
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>>135545105
>Clearly they are doing something different that works
they are subsidized by the NSA.
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>>135543337
>In the city centers which account for roughly 30% of Canada's population,

Naw, Muslims are 3% of the population of the country, so your math is way off.

Also: have you ever been to Vancouver? Muslims? Middle Easterners? lol. It's ALL white and Chinese.
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>>135534956
(((Content creator)))
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>>135545604
You missed Cap'n Crunch anon's point: he wasn't saying that advertising could save a shit product, but that advertisers could craft a good product. If DNC wasn't set on HRC and picked some nobody to build up and play the part, they would have been successful.
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>>135545048
>>135545048
>But the question is, is it actually "useful"?
Knowing your customers' ordering habits is incredibly useful. Especially for mundane functions like inventory planning. If you know your customers are going to purchase X amount of product at a given location in a certain time period, its a good idea to have at least X amount of product on hand. When your products are made in China, you need to order 6+ months in advance.
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>>135544100
Wow.
You two somehow actually thought that was real?
I weep for your futures.
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>>135537585
I respectfully disagree, advertising still works, it's merely that corporate America and the limp-wristed liberals running ad departments don't want to advertise properly to the consumers they hope to attract. Consider the Amy Schumer/Seth Rogen Bud Light ads for example, Bud Light drinkers HATE rich smarmy liberal Jews ranting about intersectional genders, anyone with a brain could have told you that ad campaign was going to fuck them, and yet they spent hundreds of millions to actually DECREASE their sales. Similarly there was a lumber company that made an ad about how great illegal immigrants were and not surprisingly their business collapsed because liberals and Mexicans don't fucking buy lumber.

Pic related is an example of an ad done right, protein world pissed off a bunch of fatties with these but they are extremely appealing to their core customers and the backlash only made that target audience happier.

I guess the point that I'm trying to make is that you can't claim advertising doesn't work on you when you've never actually had an ad campaign truly target you, and in fact most ad campaigns of the past 20-30 years have likely been directly made to piss you off. Imagine if there was an ad campaign for, shit I don't know, pop tarts, where it showed a bunch of black guys lounging around on a porch complaining about having no money, then a white guy in a suit goes by eating a pop tart and the ad said "Pop Tarts, for successful people" you think /pol/ wouldn't be filled with threads of people posting pics of pop tarts and pop tart related shit? Every young white man in America would go out and buy a box. Instead you get cheerios commercials where white parents have a black kid.
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>>135543080
>They convinced people to post online using their real names. When FB first came out, it was exclusive to college students; rolled out one university at a time. You kiddies don't remember a time when "The Net" was a scary place someone would steal your identity. Everyone used screen names and was advised not to give out their date of birth.
I grew up in a world where everyone posted with pseudonyms from behind 7 proxies. The world was happier and kids played outside until dark and we kept the doors unlocked.

Apparently a desire to become not-famous for by striving for likes and followers was enough to make the average normie abandon opsec. Then the world became less safe. Once again, a jew is behind this evil. At times I wonder if there is any evil in this world that Jews aren't responsible for.
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>>135545822
I still disagree. They had no message and Hillary was ready to say and do anything to win.
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>>135545822
>>135542126
also why infomercials always say "allow 4-6 weeks for shipping" because the product has not even been made yet- the goal is to get enough customers to turn a profit before manufacturing, if enough people don't order it then they apologize and say you can't has
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>>135534190

LMAO no

Facebook is gonna stay around for at least 50 years
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>>135545048
you just don't understand business.
study business for a while, then post about business.
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>>135545915
right?? did they even read the middle.... good pic though i lol'd
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>>135534956
I think you're right. Let's see what happens though.
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>>135545496
>>135545583
If the Roomba could analyze the contents of what it finds on the floor and report its findings, now that would be valuable. Unfortunately they would cost as much as a Mars rover if they did that.

>>135545048
>>135545604
>>135546040
You seem to be pointing out the problems that others are saying big data + AI could solve. We're nearing the limit of what human marketers can do unassisted.

I take your point about Hillary: you ultimately won't sell an unsellable product. Maybe we're talking about different subjects, but what I'm asking is what the result would have been if the campaign & marketing people were the ones to choose which candidate they would sell.
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>>135546112
only because millennials started pages for their fetal children and uploaded their lives to it... shit what implication does that have
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>>135545251
No source was given actually, but I assume that's your point. My source is stats given to me via 2016 census info and immigration information pertaining to legal, illegal, and refugee immigration. I believe that most of that information will be publically available in the next week or two. The immigration info may not be made public until next year as a part of the 2017 census data.
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>>135545841
>Knowing your customers' ordering habits is incredibly useful.
Maybe, but is spending $100,000,000,000,000s worth how "useful" this data supposedly is? I can't see anything worth guaranteeing or justifying spending this kind of money. It's a ponzi scheme and it's amazing that P&G is catching on.
>If you know your customers are going to purchase X amount of product at a given location in a certain time period, its a good idea to have at least X amount of product on hand.
You understand that, that is a separate issue from advertising? Right?
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>>135535703
Either way it all comes crumbling down. It happens every 250 years or so. The west is about ready for another takedown. It will be glorious.
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>>135546275
agreed- however just knowing the square footage of your home is enough to place you into relevant ad campaigns
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>>135534956
No Agenda show has been doing this for years, they call it "value for value" and do it so they can talk media and politics without worrying about sponsors.
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>>135546370

I'm not going to let it go like last time.
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>>135545225
>But today it means brightly-colored sugar puffs you pour milk over.

And those puffs are largely just made from corn meal or baked rice or whatever.

There isn't much difference between the different brands which is why advertising plays such a large part in enticing people to choose one over another.
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>>135534190
Lies
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>>135546275
>If the Roomba could analyze the contents of what it finds on the floor and report its findings, now that would be valuable.
Imagine a future where not owning a Roomba is probably cause for the DEA to kick in your door.
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>>135545960
You're hired!
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>>135546178
financially-speaking, most-exploited people in history are artists, next are musicians.
There will always be people between "content-creators" and paying customers to intercept the money.
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>>135546370
>It happens every 250 years or so.
>>135546468
>I'm not going to let it go like last time.
What happened last time?
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>>135546327
Maybe the biggest sell of all will be the big data brokers bullshitting about the value of the data they have.
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>>135546373
not without the location.
a 4,000 sq ft house in Snakeballs, Wyoming might be worth $300,000, whereas the same house on the Westside of Vancouver is more likely to be worth $6 million.
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>>135545960
>I respectfully disagree, advertising still works, it's merely that corporate America and the limp-wristed liberals running ad departments don't want to advertise properly to the consumers they hope to attract. Consider the Amy Schumer/Seth Rogen Bud Light ads for example, Bud Light drinkers HATE rich smarmy liberal Jews ranting about intersectional genders, anyone with a brain could have told you that ad campaign was going to fuck them, and yet they spent hundreds of millions to actually DECREASE their sales. Similarly there was a lumber company that made an ad about how great illegal immigrants were and not surprisingly their business collapsed because liberals and Mexicans don't fucking buy lumber.
You're making my argument for me. Ads don't work as they are ignored and irrelevant and at worst if people notice them it's for the wrong reasons and it hurts sales.
>Pic related is an example of an ad done right, protein world pissed off a bunch of fatties with these but they are extremely appealing to their core customers and the backlash only made that target audience happier.
You're mistaking clickbait and outrage happening organically on the web for intention. That company didn't intend any for that to happen and they got lucky. I wouldn't turn around and spend $100,000,000 with them expecting the same results from what is essentially an ugly-looking, lazy ass, generic swimwear ad.

Ads do nothing, hurt or rarely help by accident even with the examples you gave.

I bought a video game based on a demo while IN a GameStop. I bought a box of cookies because they were giving free samples out at the super market.

I have never bought something from an ad on TV or the internet. I might buy the product, but never because of the ad. Why? Because who gives a shit? This is a scam. Another game in the big Jewish casino.
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>>135546614
errbody hop on board
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>>135545960
You should work in that field
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>>135545960
>magine if there was an ad campaign for, shit I don't know, pop tarts, where it showed a bunch of black guys lounging around on a porch complaining about having no money, then a white guy in a suit goes by eating a pop tart and the ad said "Pop Tarts, for successful people" you think /pol/ wouldn't be filled with threads of people posting pics of pop tarts and pop tart related shit? Every young white man in America would go out and buy a box. Instead you get cheerios commercials where white parents have a black kid.
Also no. Turner tried this with the fake "alt-right comedian" Sam Hyde and his show was cancelled.
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>>135546957
true, because if it can TRANSMIT data about the layout of your home, it totally wouldn't bing a location to go along with it... really dude?
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>>135546724

Same thing that always happened.
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>>135545960
Comepletly agree, another example of good advertising is the most interesting man in the world. They litterally created a meme that is still all over the Internet to this day. What most advertisers don't understand is that targeting men is much easier because unlike women, men know what they want within seconds of seeing it. If you piss them off because of annoying leftist narratives you've lost an easy direct sale. But it's dumb leftist college grads that make these shitty ad campaigns so it's probably just gonna get worse every year.
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>>135536944
>Help me big daddy government
Fuck off big government kike.
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>>135546123
You sound like a Jew trying to sell internet ads everyone blocks or skips.

Advertisement doesn't work in America because the ad companies took it too far and we all fucking hate it now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WTBkj8gFfI
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>>135547184
>Sam Hyde
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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>>135537243

Some of you Thai are alright. Don't come to Canada, at all, ever.
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>>135546275
>You seem to be pointing out the problems that others are saying big data + AI could solve.
yeah, the big geek Jesus coming to save and solve everything. I'm saying there are limits to the effectiveness of this shit and the people in charge of the programs don't know shit about psychology because even psychologists can't predict this shit.
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>>135547529
a good book on this is Black Swan by Nassim Taleb- you've got your known unknowns and your unknown unknowns people- humans are easy to predict, and if you disagree then fucking GET ON IT
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>>135546327
P&G spent $7.2 billion in advertising last year so $100 million is a drop in the bucket. Though the online portion was growing at a much faster rate than traditional advertising.

>>135546327
>You understand that, that is a separate issue from advertising? Right?
Yes, they are different but advertising and marketing are very interrelated. Legitimate marketing professionals spend their time understanding and predicting sales data. Advertising is a small part of this process. Plebs equate marketing with advertising. The field of online advertising is a meme; not a legitimate profession or science.
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>>135546914
Bingo.
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>>135535411
Breaking up Amazon won't do that much.
It won't bring back brick and mortar becuse people don't care anymore. No one cares to go out, many would sooner just not buy something if they need to go out for it. Reguardless of political affilation, the US zeitgeist is depressed as fuck.if Amazon broke apart, then ebay or another site would become a monoply. It's more of a symptom then a cause.
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I've been browsing voice actors on fiverr and thinking about making blatant top 10 video shit just to feel it out. Bad timing maybe with everything going on. Could still be fun. Fucking retarded tinfoilers shilling clips from movies as SCARY paranormal videos NOBODY CAN EXPLAIN get zillions of views.
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>>135547729
>humans are easy to predict
according to who? We are most bizarre creatures on the face of the Earth. We became so smart we built tools and hunted our own predators to extinction.
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>>135534999
down with faceb00k
down with g00gle
up with ch405
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>>135547405
This. I recognize brands that advertised and don't buy them because they advertised.
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>>135548189
NOT TODAY DEMIURGE
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>>135535060
i will strip naked and dance outside if facebook is taken down. I want to see it myspaced into oblivion
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>>135548103
Here's a pic. This big cat was perfectly adapted to killing and eating humans with no struggle. It used to put its saber teeth though our eyes and walk us around like a bagged lunch.

Only we exist now and not because we are stronger, bigger, faster or more dangerous.
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>>135547529
Psychologists and advertisers are humans. Our topics seem to have diverged. The point I'm getting at is that Facebook's value lies in its data rather than traditional advertising, which as you pointed out is much less effective than it used to be.

The ineffectiveness of advertising has been widely pointed out by marketers. Increasingly so. There are plenty of studies showing that people who've seen full page ads (which cost as much as a house) can't remember what they were for 5 minutes later.

So I don't think we're in disagreement about that. What I'm saying is that promotion and marketing will leave the ad space and become part of the "article" or the content itself. Camouflage itself and become tough to distinguish from the content.

I'd say it's less like big geek Jesus saving everything, more like Friendly Big Brother here to sell you everything you'll ever need to be "happy."
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>>135548189
>>135548233
Sorry lads, as much as enjoy the religious seasons, two times the same tactic in not even 6 seasons away from each other. Will not work. Try in current year + 7
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>>135548370
forgot pic.
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>>135543080
MySpace bit the dust when it got bought by fox
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>>135548103
yeah it was an autocorrection error lol hence the end of that post- then get on it
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>>135543699
>thinking stock values are any real indcation of the health of a company
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>>135534887
I work in data and believe me, the age of privacy abuse has barely begun.
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Remember

Report all adds as offensive
Report all posted links or sponsored videos on meme pages as spam or offensive content.

Get as many meme pages zucc'd as possible. Ruin their money making scheme.
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>>135544052
Reminder to all newdags that if you don't know what something means, lurk until you figure it out. This is hoe we weed out low-IQ normies. Nobody should be telling anyone what something means. Context clues, you faggots.
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>>135548673
or simply ad them to your ublock filter and let the meme page owner be able to pay for their expanses by scamming boomers who don't understand the internet
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>>135548924
you are a holy teacher sir, i already figured that our years ago- still upset people can't figure it out on their own...
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>>135541222
If I could get sponsorships demonstrating the chemical superiority of name-brand detergents on youtube, I would do it in a heartbeat. That sounds awesome.
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>>135548931
That's the thing, they still get that money, we need to stop the flow completely.

Boomers don't like being scammed but often can't tell. They click and click and click and money flows. We need to end that from jewbook.
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>>135548931
Unlikely but a nightmare scenario: browsers that allow the user to choose what content to display and scripts to run become illegal — not in a criminal sense but in an "against the terms & conditions" sense.
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>>135534616
You think you know better than FEMA what to do with this months ambrosia shipment?
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>>135534190
>I saw you advertising on this thing I don't like! I'm now boycotting your product! >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~!
I'm sure user behavior like this didn't help kikebook and others. Honestly I hope it continues.
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>>135549359
yeah, but I think the extreme contrarian stuff is just us and a few other communities
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>>135545960
> Imagine if there was an ad campaign for, shit I don't know, pop tarts, where it showed a bunch of black guys lounging around on a porch complaining about having no money, then a white guy in a suit goes by eating a pop tart and the ad said
>"Pop Tarts, for successful people"
For the love of god please make this real.
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>>135549543
really? that would do something for you?
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>>135548619
no wonder an Orwellistan britbonger knows the most about privacy abuse
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>>135534190
Advertisers are paying for ads that are viewed and clicked on by bots, not humans.

Where does one get such a bot to help shut this all down?
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>>135545960
>>135549543
https://youtu.be/mWMu0cTnBZ4
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>>135549465
That behavior mostly targets right wing content on kikebook, youtube, etc.

It still makes those platforms toxic for advertisers. "Is a bigot's dollar worth less than a non-bigots?" If I were an advertiser, I don't care who buys my shit.
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>>135534190
FACEBOOK SHILLS LOOK AT ME

/POL/ DID THIS TO YOU
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>>135549827

>Where does one get such a bot to help shut this all down?

Good idea anon, I'll think about it.
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>>135537585
Thats actually sorta fuckin disturbing.
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>>135549919
write one??? that's the thing about people being so scared of (((AI)))- it's just technology, technology that can be created by both sides.
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>>135549827
the goyim know shut it down
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>>135548924
>calling people newfags
>falling for obvious bait noone else in the thread fell for
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>>135549869
No, but you care if your brand is being publicly linked to something unpopular.
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>>135543376
>Crosby Freeway
You mean Highway 90?
That's eerily close to me.
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>>135541222
>>135545111
Miring these digits.
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>>135550655
Checked, and did my laundry.
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The thing I hate the most about Facebook and its ad system and ads in general is that no one wants to fucking see the to begin with no matter the platform.

Advertising in general is a lost fucking cause. Who actually watched a commercial and sees an ad and goes "fuck I need that!" Besides children and toys?

Who is riding a Subway, sees the beach body ad and goes "fuck my beach body is ready, need my shake!"?

Literally all the products I use are due to trial and error until I find products I like that work well given the cost. Hell I only use tide because Costco sells it cheap as shit and it works well.

Now Facebook thinks goys wants to see ads while looking through meme pages and friend posts in the feed? Who the fuck buys those products anyways? How disconnected from reality to you have to be to think it's brilliant idea?
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>>135550944
>Advertising in general is a lost fucking cause. Who actually watched a commercial and sees an ad and goes "fuck I need that!" Besides children and toys?
In Europe it's illegal to market to children under 10.
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>>135551129
That's awesome.
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>>135550944
They just need to do what Alex Jones does, sell their own version of shit. Especially organic hipster shit. Facebook filters etc
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>>135540582
Also, I know people addicted to farmville & shit like that. Gotta be on facebook to have "neighbors help" you. People actually rack up credit card bills buying more land, animals & shit. These bastards are making money off brainwashed sheep regardless of P&G. I've tried to tell peole about the data mining, They just don't give a shit. Brains are fried.
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>>135551129
>not being a constant state where it's the 80s-90s and everything is solely marketed towards retard kids with ridiculous commercials
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>>135537310
Socialism is rules for thee but not for me.

They want their wealth but they want you to give up yours.
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>>135551444

>ridiculous commercials

I got you holmes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdjVZr1P7FU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR9aoI6YByc
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>>135551318
i wish we actually valued and protected children in America. We are all busy watching reruns of "to Catch a Predator" thinking we're doing something good by doing so, while the kids are alone in the other room being exposed to the raw internet on their iPhones.

Between iPads and TVs being baby sitters and Michelle Obama lunches and kids learning how to be people by being online kids are absolutely screwed in the coming generations.
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>>135540582
My jewbook account is purely for gas lighting comment sections, reporting ads as offensive, and reporting all news articles as false.
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>>135540884

What if (((someone))) is feeding you with ads you wouldn't probably react on, only to see how you would behave, if such (((person))) would go that far. Don't you see the pattern?
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>>135549150
was thinking more about the ad ceo boomers showing them money in the throats because they believe internet is where they reach most consumers.
>We need to end that from jewbook
It solves itself. The younger don't use it because there parents are on it, but they leave also because it has become a circle jerk. And with the ads, it seems that a lot of consumer segments (Hipster, old 68er, yuppies who don't change brand, tweens) are so fed up with ads, that advertising can have a negative yield.
>>135549183
I use Opera on full private mode combined with ublock umatrix no script and adblock plus and well, my web is ad free to the most part. And if a page displays ads that I haven't yet filtered, into the filter it goes. And if the page ask me to shut down my adblockers, well i will never visit again and hard filter the whole domain
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>>135551444
>>135551706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usnkW1PdnuA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqfvlauFMAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85HSayVAC6U
lol THE NIGHTMARE NEVER ENDS.
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>>135552037
Hahahahahahaha oh man those take me back.
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>>135552313
I think they're evil. Those batshit, manic commercials selling us obesity and sugar making us hyper so we can be diagnosed with ADD and medicated.
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>>135543900
That's literally how Trump got into office though
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>>135544052
Lurk more
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>>135552456
I wasn't a retard as a child. Crossfire was always gay and I don't think I recall a single friend ever having it.
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>>135547184
Sams show was successful and doing very well. It was canceled due to higher ups and a media shit storm. i.e. advertisements destroyed a successful show by causing drama
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>>135538661
>that picture
Worst God damn place on the entire Interstate Highway System.
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>>135552691
sam, pls. no one watched it and you're not funny.
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>>135552456
i've read that ADD also comes from the young hyper-socialization of children(daycares and preschools from ~birth-prekindergarten), it used to be adults socializing children until the Nanny State took over- but now kids are being chucked in shortly after birth and they socialize "laterally" instead of getting a mature mindset and logical reasoning from above(vertically)
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>>135544052
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>>135552750
That's almost every intersection in America, anon.
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>>135545960
This.

Advertising works. What I don't know why there are so many untalented hacks in advertising departments. What you say should be obvious to them and yet, it's not.
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>>135550944
I purchase products I see advertised around. I don't know X exists in my niche hobby then I see it and I think it would be useful. Or I don't know who stocks them so same deal
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>>135552813
>i've read that ADD also comes from the young hyper-socialization of children(daycares and preschools from ~birth-prekindergarten), it used to be adults socializing children until the Nanny State took over- but now kids are being chucked in shortly after birth and they socialize "laterally" instead of getting a mature mindset and logical reasoning from above(vertically)
that makes a lot of sense.

I also just thought it was sad when friends were given Mountain Dew™, Gushers™ and Dunk-a-roos™ for lunch everyday, hyped up on caffeine and sugar and told they were too "hyper active" and needed pills. That and the parents were all getting divorced and drugs were very very widely available. People are monsters.
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>>135552859
That wasn't the point. The picture in >>135538661 is one of the few remaining discontinuities in the system where I-70 crosses the Penna. Turnpike (I-76) without direct access. I-70 ends at US-30, and you must go through a couple lights before you can make a right to continue on I-70 westbound. It is a complete disaster if you hit it at the wrong time.
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>>135553026
I can't believe bud light actually believed there was a sizable market of liberal SJW that would have bought a product they never liked to begin with.
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>>135553203
>autism
okay anon.
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>>135553035

>having hobbies

My only hobby is preparing for the race war, you complacent fucking bong.
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>>135553412
part of preparing for a race war is finding ways to destress so stress doesnt break you
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>>135553035
What's your hobby?
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>>135534190
>internet goes down
>phones out
>no tv
>no radio
>no food, water
>go outside and get rekt by some zombie-larping faggot who was just waiting for you
>get eaten

and the universe moves on
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>>135534999
checked
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>>135553870
joycamp on yt has a funny video on this concept lol everyone goes out and socializes- organizes in person- and then the internet comes back and everyone deserts
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advertising on facebook only works in specific ways.

conventional over produced advertising does't work on facebook, we've been trained to ignore it.

targeted advertising with posts that look like personal posts work as does virtue signalling advertising.
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>>135554227
That's it's best to report all posts not directly from friends as spam or offensive.
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>>135553758
Professional warhammer painter to put it in laymen terms.
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>>135554533
If you're a professional, should companies be giving you stuff to advertise?
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>>135554533
is your fursona a horse?
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>>135554533

Oh shit so you're that 40 year old virgin guy irl. Yeah you're fucked when the race war hits m8
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>>135554796
>>135554771
Don't shit on him. I was in undergrad jacked fr lift weights and getting pussy but would paint 40k figurines late at night some times. It's pretty therapeutic and steadies the hand.
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