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NAZISM IS SAME AS COMMUNISM

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You idiots, educate yourself. There is NO difference between nazism/fascism and communism/socialism. IT'S ALL THE SAME SHIT FOR DUMB LAZY IDIOTSS.
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>>135533358
Nah.
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>>135533358
fuck off navalny
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>>135533851
Change your flag nazicuck. They are both ethnic communist and both worthy of removal.
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>>135534078
Nah. This thread is gay and so are you.
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>>135533358

It would be clearer if not for the whole Aryans vs Jews red herring.
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>>135533358
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>>135533358
>all these unironic agreement replies to a bait thread
/pol/ is dead
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>>135534078
Even that premise is falls, the Soviets didn't care one lick about Russians or any other ethnicity aside from the (((obvious))) one.
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>>135533358
one of them brought up a country from degeneracy and economical ruin after WW1.

They other, not so much
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>>135534078
>ethnic communist
a fully new horseshoe was created!
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>>135534801
Meant to say just Nazism is ethnic communism.
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>>135534654
Watch this and tell me you do not see scenes from Triumph of the Will
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQxW_ipxEEo
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>>135533358
Socialism with German characteristics
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Nazi = Socialism, it's in the name basically.

Socialism taken a few extra steps = communism.

They are not entirely the same thing. I guess you could say all Communists are Socialists, but not all socialists are communists.
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>>135534487
Could find political posters of the same style from any political party or current of the era.
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>>135533358
>1 post by this id

Fuck off
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>>135535635
That just means Americans were just as socialist and collectivist under FDR. Great Depression was a false flag to start up collectivism
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>>135535454
Such as?
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NACAB = Nazis and Commies are Bastards.
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>>135533358
hes right you know
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>>135535698
> t. dumb american millennial
Grow up.

>>135534944
Nice.
Dumb tankies think you meant Stalin.
Dumb nazis think you meant Hitler.
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>>135533358
most of the ltieral hitlerdindu nazis are newfags
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>>135534078
Nationalism vs internationalism
Not same thing
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>>135533358
>communism
being ruled by Jews
>national-socialism
exposing the Jew

s..sure i guess it is the completley same thing
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>>135536184

You don't know anything about either one. So shut up and fuck off.

sage & /thread
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>>135534487
No niggers in the posters on the left. Seems different to me :^)
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>>135536395
aw some ones feelers got hurt
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>>135533358
You are not wrong
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>>135536597

You felt the need to throw in your two cents. So, tell me whose feelings are hurt.
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>>135536361
So Hitler was fighting in Stalingrad? Ha-ha.

Why nazis and commies are SOOOOO dumb?
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>>135536730
not an argument
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>>135536880

Yeah, like you have one.
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>>135536361
Stalin exposed the Jews as well, he learned how bad they were and what they were doing to the Soviet Union. Google the Doctor's Plot.
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>>135533358
Only braindead kosher conservative americans and /leftypol/ shills actually believe this.
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>>135536779
nice try shlomo
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>>135533358
And jews were behind both of them.
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The thing is that DUMB people can't think on their own. So they need nazism/communism where (((smart))) guys are telling them what to do.

>>135537164
> t. dumb nazi without counterargument.
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>>135536957
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>>135537419
maybe Hitler didn't fight in Stalingrad, but he did his part in serving for his country, in contrast to some ((revolutionists))

here have a (JEW)
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>>135535528
You're stuck in a binary, dialectical thought process
>>135536250
That's funny coming from an anarchist. Don't you have a rally with antifa to go too?
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THINK FOR YOURSELF, IDIOTS.

>>135537635
Stalin also directly participated in fightings.

But background doesn't matter. It's just nothing.
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>>135533358
>NAZISM IS SAME AS COMMUNISM
Except not. They were opposites, and you're shilling or retarded.
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>>135537848
AHAHAHAHAHA
NOT REAL SOCIALISM... how the fuck you can be so dumb?
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>>135533358
false but don't care
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>>135536541
lol true
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What you guys don't realize is nazism and communism are the opposites of a spectrum that curves like a horshoe up towards a y axis of government involvement. At the bottom/middle of the horseshoe is anarchy and no government involvemnent.

Nazism/fascism uses gov to strengthen itself and communism in theory uses gov invovment to be redistributive
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>>135537048
>Stalin exposed the Jews as well
Shills on this board are bad at their jobs.

>>135537985
Nazi meaning of socialism was opposite marxist meaning. Even a child can understand this. Its obvious if you study anything about communism or nazism, they hate each other. All of nazism is "how to destroy communism". All of communism is "everything evil is fascist and reactionary". Its obvious. You are lying or retarded.
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>>135533358

Those two ideologies killed my waifus Anne Frank and Anastasia Romanov.

To Hell with Hitler and Stalin and anyone petty, cruel, or foolish enough to follow them.
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>>135537985
Vanka don't drink so early it's time to go to bed.
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>>135534654
>/pol/ is dead
nah, just taking a summer vacation from mindful discourse and actual thought.
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>>135538149
Did you read what the Doctor's Plot was? That denunciation of antisemitism was in 1931, he later went on to learn how awful the Jews were.
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>>135533358
You're not too far off. They're simply both manufactured ideologies to provide a framework for controlling their populace. Adjusted depending on the mood/kinds of people to govern at the behest of banks and elites
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>>135534487
Ok, I hate commies as much as everyone, but you have to admit their propaganda was much more aesthetic.
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>>135533358
tl:dr
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>>135533358
yeah
but no
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>>135538679
Are you dumb commie or dumb nazi? You guys behave like animals.
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>>135533358
Is this really what they're teaching in schools now?
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>>135538956
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>>135538800
tweet this to eichanwald
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>>135539066
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>>135533358
Not same, but equally retarded. Any unironic communists and nazies should be sent to Kalmykia to dig stones for my house.
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>>135538061
This right here
The thread is hur anything with socialism in the name is automatically Marxist.
Which to be fair most socialism is
But look up natsoc before bashing it or fucking comparing it to communism

If natsoc and commies were so a like then Germany and ussr wouldn't have gone to war. Most countries with the same systems don't fight, and in fact help each other.
Like ussr and China, north Korea and cuba
Or the us and any democracy
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>>135538560
>Did you read what the Doctor's Plot was?
Yes, one of many purges of Zionists seen as disloyal to Soviet ideology. It was not an anit-semitic purge of jews as jews claim. Stalin married all his children to jews, spent his life punishing party members for anti-semitism, and all his top lieutenants were jews. If you think Stalin was anti-jew, then you were fooled -- all Nazbol are suckers, you believe bullshits.
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>>135539228
>anyone with different opinions should be sent off to camps to do hard labour

gulag then?
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>>135539245
Anyone who isn't 70IQ understands Germany had a free market economy and all traces of real marxian socialism were purged in the night of the long knives. It's a bait thread so don't reply or if you have to sage.
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>>135539245
After Stalin death China had better relations with USA than with USSR.
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>>135538560
> Did you read what the Doctor's Plot was?
Stop reading wikijewdia.

>>135539385
No freedom for enemies of freedom.
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>>135539385

Isn't she an American?
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>>135539264
All those actions were done relatively early during his rule, he learned the horrors of the Jews in the late 40s and early 50s. Can't wait till the DPRK nukes Seoul by the way!
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>>135539482
Because Khrushchev was a traitor to orthodox marxism-leninism.
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>>135539506
>enemies of freedom.
>>>>
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>be national socialist
>privatize a ton of shit and restore the economy
>kikes screech commie at you anyway
It really makes you think.
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>>135539614
If someone starts pointing a gun at you, you don't wait until he shoots.
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>>135539596
> amerikan edukation
...........
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>nationalists
>globalist

That is the difference
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>>135539824
>vauge russian posting

made me think hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>135539479
no, its better to roast the brainlet on /pol/ for learning history from smiley ball memes.

>>135539584
no, you are making up excuses, read what i posted all proofs are there. You are wrong, Stalin was strong anti-racist and anti-anti-semite. He was surrounded by hardcore pro-jews.
>Can't wait till the DPRK nukes Seoul by the way!
lol did I butthurt you so much by disagree with you? such a little bitch haha
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>>135534353
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturenews/6130672/Pictured-Hitler-playing-chess-with-Lenin.html
>The image is said to have been created in Vienna by Hitler's art teacher, Emma Lowenstramm, and is signed on the reverse by the two dictators.
>Hitler was a jobbing artist in the city in 1909 and Lenin was in exile and the house where they allegedly played the game belonged to a prominent Jewish family.
Just a coincidence, goy. Nothing suspicious.
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>>135533358
The inability to distinguish between things is a sign of a low IQ. Do you just go around calling everything "a thing" in Russia?

Nazis were integralists. Stalin was an idiot.
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>>135539651
Exactly it isn't for people born with birth defects from 90 degrees vodka. Nationalist socialists (not NatSoc, Strasserists are a good example) actually criticized Hitler for being too soft with big businesses.
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>>135539828
Are you denying he tried to supress the Stalin cult and start a liberalisation process?
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>>135539905
Post the articles where Hitler is gay tranny kike african with no testicles but somehow make children with French hookers, have sex on meth and viagra and also contact with ayyliums -- you will believe any propaganda.
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>>135533358
Nice bait, russonigger.
Why is Putin banning fascist parties(while a communist party is still in Russia today), the swastika and denying the holocaust while Lenin's statues and the hammer&sickle still stand on your buildings?

>b-but the posters and propaganda means that they're the same

Everyone was doing propaganda, the capitalists ,national socialists, commies etc.
Sage.
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>>135533358
PREPARE YOUR ANUS
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>>135539905
Yes the starving painter Hitler that lived with the bums who couldn't pay to see a play in the theathre also played chess with the rich jew Lenin.
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>>135534801
No true Stalin actually killed Jews because they had some power. I think we should make a distinction between Stalin communism and (((There))) communism.

Stalins communism was about preserving land they already had and keeping himself in power.

(((There))) communism is about lgbt niggers shitskins and all that other bullshit.

In a sense Stalin's communism is about keeping Stalin in power. While (((there))) communism is about diversity and shit like that.
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>>135540100
Big Business is good, but if we're talking about the old Industrial Revolution barons then yeah, that's bad.
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>>135539884
>anti racist
What? He fucking hated Ukrainians, there's a reason russification policies existed and like I said, from 1948 Stalin realized the Jews were trying to kill many Soviet leaders so he began purging them.
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>>135540241
Yes, because Stalinism != Leninism, you dumb nazi.
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>>135540566
Stalinism > Leninism. Don't tell me you follow this syphilistic jew with his faggot lover Trotsky.
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>>135539479
> Germany had a free market economy
The point is that it was a unit that engaged with the free market not liberal economics.
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More debunkings for anti-brainlet's threads
>oh they both have red flag so they are same philosophy
>>135540531
>What? He fucking hated Ukrainians
this maybe i believe, but also more likely he thought they were all "kulaks". But he seem to hate them its true. But I also know, he would punish his friends for any kind of racism at all, many famous examples. People were purged just for sounding maybe-racist.
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>>135540566
>ruskie
>commie sympathizer

Pottery
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>>135540662
Stalinism is same shit as leninism.
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>>135540241
Stalinism was nothing like liberalism, dumbass. Sexual deviants were killed or sent to gulags and the family unit was heavily emphasized.
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>>135533358
Watch this based vid -> https://youtu.be/jNWAIJfzGZc

Your not wrong Benito Mussolini was a socialist and he made fascism and I know people say He stopped being a socialist an became "right wing"
because of the quote "Socialism is a fraud. a comedy and a blackmail." but in truth he didn't make fascism to be in opposition of socialism.

HE SAW IT AS THE PUREST FORM OF THE FUCKING THING!

Hitler fashioned it into Nazism but before the Nazi party was the Nazi party it was called the Nationalist Socialist workers party!
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>>135540819
>kekistani saying "commies = real fascist"
so this is where all this retardations are comes from. You don't read any Fascist books if you think this is true. You read pic related and DOCTRINE OF FASCISM by Mussolini. He side with capitalists, not labor in fascism.
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>muh horseshoe theory
>muh every political position should be viewed from libertarian lens
I guess there is no real difference between absolute monarchy, Nazism and communism then
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>>135533358
Nope, Nazism worked. Spectacularly...
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>>135533358
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>>135533358
Is this what FAS looks like? Someone should''ve taken the bottle away from your mother.
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>>135541639
Where is your nazism now, dumb nazis?
Where is your commonism now, dumb commies?

>>135541721
Did Hitler was fighting in Stalingrad together with ordinary soldiers?
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>>135541639
>Nazism worked. Spectacularly
They did better than their enemies, right up to the end. Very genius system. Hjalmar Schact amazing genius.

>German GDP in Billions of Dollars:

>1938 - 351
>1939 - 384
>1940 - 387
>1941 - 412
>1942 - 417
>1943 - 426
>1944 - 437
>1945 - 310

Sources:

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-economic-history/article/div-classtitlethe-role-of-private-property-in-the-nazi-economy-the-case-of-industrydiv/5853885D956348A13B5CEFDC42313E2B
>Against the Mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930's Germany (Germa Bel)
http://www.ub.edu/graap/EHR.pdf
http://voxeu.org/article/macroeconomics-germany-forgotten-lesson-hjalmar-schacht
http://www.nber.org/chapters/c9480.pdf
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/nazi-germany-military-expenditure/
http://voxeu.org/article/macroeconomics-germany-forgotten-lesson-hjalmar-schacht
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>>135533358
>You idiots, educate yourself. There is NO difference between nazism/fascism and communism/socialism. IT'S ALL THE SAME SHIT FOR DUMB LAZY IDIOTSS.


are you genuinly stuipid or are you baiting?

first and fore all in natsoc germany you could own private property.


“Ideology played a secondary role in Hitler’s economic policies. For reasons of expediency, Hitler did not attempt to nazify the economy. Instead, he left the actual running of the economy to experts in business and industry, while instituting a large amount of control from above to force cooperation and compliance with his economic objectives. So long as they cooperated, big business and industry profited by this relationship. In essence, the German economy under Hitler was neither totally free nor totally controlled.”
bussneses where free aslong as they where loyal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength_Through_Joy
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjalmar_Schacht
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>>135533358
Socialism = Communism.
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>>135534487
Ah yes...

The bottom poster says it all.

Ethno Nationalism vs Multi racial globalism.
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>>135537848
>"The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning"

Some things never change.
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>>135540819
The guy on the video makes no mention on economical policies, family policies, race policies or even morality. And yet violence is enough to make everyone a commie.
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>>135542000
Is true. In fact, Marx was mostly plagiarist. Idea people call Marxism is really philospy from Charles Dunnoyer and Charles Compte, with Marx own changed it around, but same theory of classes. So socialism start in very different philosophy, then jew Marx plagiarism it and make it into a insanity.
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>>135541942
Based Nazbol - With smart ones like you Natsocs and Nazbol could peacefully coexist in an abstract way with the NAP
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>>135542485
>co-existing with Bolsheviks
lol
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>Natsocs and Nazbol could peacefully coexist
no, because Nazbol is meme to subvert Natsoc and make it into communsim, like strasser
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>>135542485
>natsocs and bolscheviks coexisting
Hahaha, no.
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>>135542030
This is the state of fence sitting centrists. They deserve antifa breaking their heads.
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>>135535226
Nope, that's NazBol/Strasserism. NatSoc isn't actually socialist, but more like Nordic model.
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>>135541817
No shit your top leader isn't fighting on the front lines, though he was a decorated soldier in WWI. Hitler greatly improved the life of the average German.
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>>135533358
Its like saying socialism is same as national socialism. They are similar, what differs is the people that these two systems serve (shitskin invaders vs native people of the country)
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>>135543443
Exactly. Sweden even had eugnics until 30-40 years ago.
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>>135543780
eugenics*
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This dumb meme needs to end.
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>>135533358

This sounds like something so stupid that only an americuck mongrel with absolutely zero understanding of 19th-20th century European history could post it.
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>>135533358
You worship one leader in Nazism, and in Communism your worship one state. They're both shitty authoritarian systems that own your life and are very similar. Fuck both of them.
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>>135543780
Sweden was low key NatSoc for quite some time.
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>>135543902
It's not a meme it's obvious trolling or /leftypol/ D&C.
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>>135542781
>>natsocs and bolscheviks coexisting
>Hahaha, no.

nice try divide and conqeur kike.

the molotov ribbetrop agreement.

molotov ribbetrop agreement.
>The Soviet Union provided material support to Germany in the war effort against Western Europe through a pair of commercial agreements, the first in 1939 and the second in 1940, which involved exports of raw materials (phosphates, chromium and iron ore, mineral oil, grain, cotton, and rubber). These and other export goods transported through Soviet and occupied Polish territories allowed Germany to circumvent the British naval blockade.

>In October and November 1940, German-Soviet talks about the potential of joining the Axis took place in Berlin. Joseph Stalin later personally countered with a separate proposal in a letter on 25 November that contained several secret protocols, including that "the area south of Batum and Baku in the general direction of the Persian Gulf is recognized as the center of aspirations of the Soviet Union", referring to an area approximating present day Iraq and Iran, and a Soviet claim to Bulgaria's sphere.Hitler never responded to Stalin's letter. Shortly thereafter, Hitler issued a secret directive on the invasion of the Soviet Union
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>>135544016
Have fun trying to have a libertarian society when there's encroaching third worlders who vote for more gibs.
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>>135533358
>propaganda from the same era looks similar so it's the same ideology

Kill yourself you fucking retard
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>>135544101
Both nations knew that it was temporary. In the end it was an unholy alliance against liberal democracies.
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>>135544101
>the molotov ribbetrop agreement is a sign of nazis and communists coexisting
someone is dumb enough to believe this
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>>135544197
We can just kill them, the NAP only applies to citizens.
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>>135544404
So you're a Hoppean libertarian?
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>>135544266
>Both nations knew that it was temporary. In the end it was an unholy alliance against liberal democracies.


what could have been.

>>135544327
they helped eachother out in the invasion of poland.
also stalin shared the hatred of the kikes with hitler.


>Not less interesting is the composition of the congress from the standpoint of nationalities. Statistics showed that the majority of the Menshevik faction consists of Jews—and this of course without counting the Bundists—after which came Georgians and then Russians. On the other hand, the overwhelming majority of the Bolshevik faction consists of Russians, after which come Jews—not counting of course the Poles and Letts—and then Georgians, etc. For this reason one of the Bolsheviks observed in jest (it seems Comrade Aleksinsky) that the Mensheviks are a Jewish faction and the Bolsheviks a genuine Russian faction, so it would not be a bad idea for us Bolsheviks to arrange a small pogrom in the party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_and_antisemitism#Early_years


it would have been like the alluiance with soviet russia and america just long enoufh to steamrol the opposition and then a col war would start between the 2 superpowers.
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>>135544016
Babby detected
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>>135537682
im not an anarchist, its just a meme. Traditional americanism is bretty gud though.
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>>135544327
If you invade your ideological enemy and try to wipe them out, you're coexisting.
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Oy vey! Time for you stupid goyim to be shut down. We, your Jewish masters and God's Chosen People, will not tolerate dissent. You're just subhuman goy, and you don't know what's best for you. Our coffers are filled with endless golden shekels. We control your banks. We control your governments. We control your foreign policies. We control the (social) media. Stop being racist™ you homophobic™, antisemitic™, xenophobic™ neo-nazis™. Do not question us, and obey.
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>>135533358
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>>135533358
wtf i love communism now
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>>135533358
similarities in this picture = similarities in ideas
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>>135544907
It's liberalism. Only newfags that never bothered to lurk and stayed for the US election aren't redpilled on the JQ.
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>>135542339
What always amazes me is that every single person I know personally who considers themselves a Communist would fit squarely into the "bourgeoisie" bracket. But the ones who would fit being proles, don't necessarily reject Communism and, while they're much more nationalist, they shy away from National Socialism mainly because of the memes, but also because there's no way of discussing it which means they don't understand it.
The other thing is that when election day rolls around both of them only ever ask one question when considering who to vote for, "what's in it for me?". The sad truth is that if both groups really wanted what was best for them, they wouldn't be "Communists" or shy away from National Socialism, rather they would embrace it. But like I say because of the memes etc it's impossible for them to ever do that.
You would think that by fighting for what (((they))) tell them to fight for would be proof enough that they AREN'T being anti-establishment like they claim to be. There's nothing edgy in it and it isn't contrarian to walk around with a hammer and sickle t-shirt the way they seem to think it is. In fact if they really wanted to be edgy or contrarian for the sake of it (let's face it, that's why they do it. None of them have any understanding about what they talk about), they would walk around with swastikas on their t-shirt, but they won't because they're generic goys who only follow the lead.
The most harmful thing to the left is the truth and they fucking hate it when you give them it.
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Poopoo
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>>135544404

Freedom is inherently cosmopolitan
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>>135545488
The biggest redpill is against democracy. Even pseudo-liberatarians like Hoppe understood it. In this day and age where you can acces all kinds of information and books about taboo topics people still don't do it.
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>>135544675
>they helped eachother out in the invasion of poland
El oh el
>not being capitalist bolshevik because Allies and Soviet Union helped each other in fighting Germany
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>>135544563
About keeping out non citizens? Yes.
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>>135544101
>the pact signed by both parties with the intention of gaining time and eventually betraying the other is proof that commie kikes can coexist with natsoc
Welp, I'm convinced.
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>>135545488
>when election day rolls around both of them only ever ask one question when considering who to vote for, "what's in it for me?"
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>Hitler and Stalin pointing in the same direction means communism and national socialism are equivalent
>being THIS retarded
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>>135547027
Bingo. I'm going to save that quote after I verify its veracity.
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>>135537682
Yes, because ancom is totally the same as ancap.
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>>135547027
Although most of those statements are largely true, I don't think he actually said any of them.
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>>135547563
Their end goal is the destruction of the state. Take a quick look at the cultural policies of Germany under Hitler and of the USSR.
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>>135541817
You generally don't put your 50 something year old leader in the midst of combat

At least he actually had combat experience unlike Stalin and the fat cripple
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>>135548028
That's one thing.
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>>135547852
I guess you're right. Kind of like that quote people always say came from Voltaire, but didn't:

http://nationalvanguard.org/2017/01/voltaire-didnt-say-it/
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>>135537164
Economic reality doesn't change just because you are very patriotic about socialism.
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>>135533358
Fascism is corporatist and Socialism is communal ownership of the means of production.
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Germany and the USSR should have teamed up desu
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they are not the same

stalin's communism was some kind of elite georgian/russian nationalism based on oppressing the plebians, centralizing power

Hitler's National Socialism was pan-Germanic unification aimed at freeing the plebians from oppression, unlocking their potential, and spreading the Germanic and nationalist seed across the world to permanently decentralize world power

That they both had to liquidate some Jews standing in the way was coincidence.
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