how to fix western women

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>>135531338
the only solution pol can agree on is to enslave us by once again maintaining a strict monopoly on our livelyhood and denying it to us if we disobey, which is accomplished by keeping us out of career (and therefore unable to save or make money) and keeping us out of politics (which will further make it impossible for us to change any of this).

This plan will work because it worked all through out history. but it will make us miserable, so fuck pol.

>>135531338
Has sex with more than one man in her life = slut. There you go, defined for you.

>>135531971
>it will make us miserable
Proofs? Every stat I see says the exact opposite, that women are only more and more depressed as they gain more "equality". And don't pretend women historically didn't have careers, they did but their primary duty was that of the homemaker.

>>135531971
stay at home moms are objectively happier than single professional women.

>>135532158
But is it okay for men to cheat?

>>135531338
I'm pretty sire everyone knows what a slut is. probably written by an ashamed slut to make herself feel better.

>>135532810
Adultery is no good.

>>135532984
What if you aren't married or christian?

>>135533085
Fornication is no good and not being a Christian is no good.

>>135531971
No. It will make you happy.

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>>135531338
End of Rome, that's all. Alpha, Beta, Incel whatever fucking buzzword you want to pull out of your arse has no meaning anymore. You cut millions of Men out of society and they will do everything in their considerable power to crash this shit. Have children away from modern society, like Varg did. That's the only thing you can do now. Roma delenda est, Alaric did nothing wrong.

>>135533244
Can I at least get into a tolerable level of hell?

>>135532356
almost every chart i see on pol shows that women are less happy no matter if theyre house wives or not. if you want a real study on happiness as related to rights and careers here take this.

http://worldhappiness.report/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/HR17-Ch6_wAppendix.pdf
>>135532644
wrong
http://worldfamilymap.ifstudies.org/2015/articles/essay-2
>>135533377
see above

>>135533459
I don't think that's how it works. Your motivation for acting morally shouldn't be a fear of punishment, by the way.

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>>135533459
You may promptly kys you little gook

>>135532356
oh, sorry i didn't comment on the wage issues. The problem is not the activity of working but the security it brings. since women would not be their own agents in this world or the past one, their careers (which did happen and grats for understanding it) would almost never personally benefit their savings, the money would go tot he one with the legal power; the husband, thus retaining their monopoly on our agency

>>135531971
Actually, happiness stats tell a different story.

The more rights women get the more miserable they are, search for "Paradox of declining female happiness"

cant be fixed its a lost cause

>>135533976
see the evidnece>>135533621

>>135531338
>>135531338
You can't fix women unless you fix men. One partner for women in her lifetime means every man will have only one woman in his lifetime too and men don't want that. Men want harems of (pure) girls which means some men don't get anyone but that doesn't matter because all men are convinced they're part of or about to become part of those lucky few.

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Having prolific sex has consequences. Most libertines will ignore this in favor of spouting "muh liberation". This is empty and selfish because broader society does have to deal with the problems that this creates.

>>135531338

This article is such bullshit, a slut is just a cock hungry bitch that only thinks about sex all the time and doesn't care who it's with

>>135533621
I skimmed through both of those links and am having trouble finding anything relevant.

>>135533621
Huh? This says nothing about stay-at-home moms.

>>135533621
Choice quote I picked out here though:
"Parents’ happiness is linked, however, to religious practice. People who attend religious services more frequently are more likely to be completely or very happy in Western, Eastern, and Southern Europe, plus Asia and Central/South America. "

>>135531338
MGTOW
i know /pol/ doesn't want to hear it but it's true. men opting out while improving themselves and saving themselves for the next generation of women. let this one die out. a man can afford to wait for marriage until he's in his 40s-50s seriously. but women can't

>>135533621
>>135534333
And I don't think I need to tell you what God thinks about women being uppity.

>>135531338
Also, stop rewarding sluts. You might pretend otherwise but Slutty Stacy has her pick of husbands while Homely Hillary went to the prom alone. There is 0 incentive for women to not be sluts because none of you guys care anyway.

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>>135533621
I have links to articles reporting a correlation to increased happiness and being an housewife

Pic related is one of them

>>135531338
>a thing is difficult to define, therefore it doesn't exist!
Count the number of times the left use this non-argument.

>>135534445

Maybe Homely Hillary should put down the fork once in a while, pretty girls that aren't sluts do just as well as pretty girls that are.

women are as varied as men.
giving such a vague generalist statememnt encompassing literally billions of individuals is incredibly identitarian and intellectually lazy.

there is no "fix" just get yourself a woman right for you and stop being a fucking cuck

>>135534662
homely women tend to be the biggest sluts anyways because low self worth. that other anon is a virgin.

>>135531338

You can not fix the nature of women, period. Get yourself educated and act accordingly.

>>135534768
>women are as varied as men.
No they aren't.

>>135533698
But Zeus was married and had affairs and even raped women.

>>135533796
I'm white.

>>135534768
take your own advice, nobody here is listening to anyone but themselves anyways.

>>135534662
implying chubby girls arent hot and anyone who disagrees is a closet pedophile

>>135534844
they are.
you must not see many of them

>>135534897
you're british, your entire nation is closeted pedophiles kek

>>135534768
>women are varied as men
>therefore it's impossible to recognize trends in the population

Absolutely retarded

>>135534888

>modern day people using ancient greeks sense of morality to justify their behavior
yea there's nothing wrong with that

>>135534662
>pretty girls that aren't sluts do just as well as girls that are

Exactly. Why not be a slut? If you're a pretty girl it doesn't matter. The world is your oyster. Literal pornstars have good husbands these days.

Just go through one of the "utopia" threads on here. What does anon post? Pretty white girls. That's all they care about.

>>135534888
>Zeus

isn't real

>>135531338
>Anyone else thank god they have a pure good girl everytime they see this enabling bullshit?

Absolutely.

>>135534951
They literally aren't, don't you know what a Y chromosome is?

>>135534951
>men
>greatest composers
>greatest artists
>greatest scientists
>greatest cooks
>greatest engineers
>etc.

>women
>greatest babymakers until we invent artifical wombs

>>135534894
did, got myself an attractive right wing loyal intelligent white girl.
They exist.

Before that I dated a bipolar asian cunt. asian women are mentally instable genetically, i've known many and not one of them was what we'd call "normal".

>>135531971
>but it will make us miserable
Tough, the propagation of a proper society is more important than women having fun.

>>135534888
Greek philosophers did not take their religion seriously, it was as much of a joke when it was around as it is now.

>>135535003
Muh modernity
>>135535019
Shouldn't whites worship white gods?

>>135535011

Because sluts are the ones that find themselves as single mothers at 18, most sluts don't actually thrive in the world some smart ones do, but they teach all girls to be sluts and then you have outrageous levels of single parenthood and dumb shit. Not sluts consider their choices when men come looking for a relationship.

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>>135531971
Freedom does not equal happiness. It's not like we want to enslave you. We just want to take away the option for you to do the other important stuff in society because you either fuck it up or you spend so much time doing it you don't bother to have kids and be happy. You can have friends be social, go out and shop, interact with society, even have an opinion about it but you most certainly can not control it.

There was an interesting study with two groups of people where they got photos (or something along those lines) one got to choose which photo they wanted to keep the other was given only one photo no option. The irony was the group that had the option to choose ended up less happy with the outcome because they couldn't be content with their choice. This is a major factor with women, they have no idea how to be content with what they have. Some men are like that but most learn how to be content and that is a happy healthy thing.

I know you have options now in your life but take it from the men and all the studies and data your only true option is to find guy you like, marry him, and have kids. There lies your true happiness.

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>There's no such thing as a slut

>love getting strange
>fuck at least 10 tinder girls a year
>even more college girls

No, The Atlantic, they are sluts.

>>135531338
Woman cant be allowed to do anything without a man's say so. You cant give them an inch.

It's not just the women, though. Little punks who call themselves men often step on another man's toes. They need to be dealt with as well. Men who dont want to work is the equivalent to a bitch

>>135535011
the problem with them being sluts is they either don't have kids. maybe different in europe but sluts in america are against marriage and kids and even when they have kids they are usually so awful the dad bails and the kid grows up to be nigger tier. that's why i don't hate niggers for bailing on coal burners, most coal burners are insane and terrible to be around.

if a slut actually wants a family then she's at least a high quality slut.

>>135535209
Hellenism now would look like Shinto does in your country, as myths.

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>>135531338
>it's impossible to define something perfectly therefore it cannot exist

>>135535137
my point is more that you're advice is solid but people here who aren't already following it more than likely won't listen to it. lot of /r9k/ cross posting here.

>>135535279

and so are you, by definition

>>135535264
>only good waifus don't have routes
Trash games.

>>135531338
find a tumblrina that self-identifies as asexual. you cannot lose!

>>135532810
No.

>>135535418
>Myths are bad
the bible is also mythological

>>135535552

The term for men is stud.

Women are pretty much a lost cause, even the women on /pol/ are far gone.
Fuck 'em, just enjoy some pussy until artificial wombs are a reality and you can have a kid without having to deal with a woman.
Thank god I'm only 20, I might actually be around to make use of something like that.

>>135534768
>being this bad at pattern recognition

This board is for people with high IQs

>>135535669
The difference being that we actually believe in God while I highly doubt you believe in Zeus or Raijin, or umbrella youkai.

>>135535678

Yea, but you're just a slut though, dress it up in whatever terms that make you feel better about yourself

>>135531338
>Sex is for breeding
>having random sex for pleasure only bad

Would it be better if every time a woman had sex, she got pregnant and gave birth?

>>135535834
Difference is, women like slutty men, even for long-term relationships.
Men only like slutty women for a quick fuck.

>>135534334
The trouble is women can wait just right about when all their fucking eggs expire and you only get autismo babies or auto abortions.

>>135535834

I don't feel the least bit bad, though.

>>135535929

single mothers like slutty men

>>135532158
Zajeb sie

>>135536053
Nah, single mothers are the ones looking for those provider bucks.
They're also the ones that raise your average /r9k/ poster, who turns out a worthless self-hating simp because mommy told him that women like nice guys.

>>135536173

Single moms are the desperate ones who will give it up easily in the hopes to keep someone around.

>>135536157
Why are you so upset?

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>>135531971
Women were happier when they were raising children and taking care of the household. It's their genetic destiny and culture is telling them that it's not. Likewise, culture is telling men that it's okay to be NEETs and be MGTOW and to be single when in reality it's our genetic destiny to have a family and work to provide for them.

Society does not override biology.

>>135534445
This.

>>135535702
Not sure I'm comfortable giving up like that, and I feel that a child would need a mother to raise it as well as a father.

>>135536251
Right, and that usually tricks the providers, because they don't get as much pussy.

>>135531338
>There's no such thing as a Nazi
The term is so vague and slippery that no one knows what a Nazi was or no one knows what you have to do to be that. It circulated around, though, so everyone could worry about it being attached to them.

Checkmate libshitstains/PC crowd.

>my girlfriend says she doesn't want to work and wants to be a stay at home mom
I've found the perfect woman.

>>135535847
>Would it be better if every time a woman had sex, she got pregnant and gave birth?
For society I think that would actually be much better.

>>135533860
Wage issues like how women suck the men they call exes for all their worth for as long as possible?
Like how the courts don't care if a father has enough income left to have a shitty apartment and food after paying the mother while she fucks new guys?
Like how they pretend it is in the best intrest of the child to have a father that is a broke loser as long as mamma gets dat money while fucking strangers that she brings around the kids?

Those wage issues?

>>135536376

I mean, it's not a bad thing that some guy is helping to fill the void.

>>135536367
Ehh, I'm sure Polish women aren't nearly as far-gone, things are pretty much as bad as people say they are in most of the continental US.
>>135536576
Most step-dads will never be respected as a real father and the kid will still be worse off than a kid raised by both biological parents.
Nevermind all the coalburners raising little half-breeds, which helps absolutely no one.

>>135531971
I don't give a shit if it doesn't make you happy, the continuation of the white race is more important than you getting to fuck 20 chads before marriage.

>>135535987
I feel a little bad...

there are no good women
she just faked a persona she thought you would like
she'll create a new persona the moment she trades up to a new man, which could be at any time, and is a thing she will do with no guilt or even the comprehension of how guilt could possibly apply. trading up to her is good and natural and she thinks you would do the same.

>>135532158
This.

>>135536761

The only step dad I know is my brother in law. The kids took his last name.

>kid will still be worse off than a kid raised by both biological parents

Dysfunctional couples should stay together for the kids?

>>135531338

>Nobody knows what a slut is

Like all things profane, I'll know it when I see it.

>>135536945

Because you went to Japan and no women wants to touch you, despite your white skin? I know you're convinced that tinder doesn't work there, but trust me it does ;).

>>135534212
>>135534330
both of you sure are illiterate.
>>135534438
no point in worshiping a psycho i cant respect. I'll be rewarded more favorably than if I pretended i cared about god.

>>135534333
figures you'd find something irrelevant to switch topics to when confronted with counter evidence

>>135531971

Brutal

>>135537027
>Dysfunctional couples should stay together for the kids?
Why wouldn't they?
Do you think a kid would be better off with 2 dysfunctional parents or 2-4 dysfunctional parents?

>>135537135
I have 3 girls now and never used tinder.

>>135534498
>insurance
>studies say
is this supposed to be a joke?

>>135536251
True story

>>135537245

I don't think they'd be better off with two parents that hate each other. They would be better off with 2-4 parents that were actually good together.

>>135535187
I think the number of men on your side unable to own up to their own beliefs and insist "oh no you'll like it" makes it tough to believe your society will be filled with people of proper integrity. they obviously don't have a shred of it.

>>135531971
I will deny you everything solely because you are all stuck up cunts that deserve to be denied. You will get what you can from men, not what you beg the state to give you.

>>135531338
Arranged marriages at 18

>>135537288

Roppongi girls?

>>135531338
>There's no such thing as..
Old tactic.

>>135537230
Your first link has to do with employment, which is irrelevant, and the second link has absolutely nothing to do with the topic except for the fact that it states religious people are happier, which has to do a little bit with traditional gender roles.

In this day and age where homemaking is so automated I would expect my wife to have part time employment, or self employment, as not to waste her time.

>>135531338
There is no woman that is not a slut.

>>135534897

This

>>135537420
>They would be better off with 2-4 parents that were actually good together.
Chances are those 2-4 parents wouldn't be good together though.
Second marriages have higher divorce rates than first marriages.

>>135535256
>You can have friends be social, go out and shop, interact with society, even have an opinion about it but you most certainly can not control it.
lol no, none of this is gaurenteed in the society pol wants to build.

>There was an interesting study with two groups of people where they got photos (or something along those lines) one got to choose which photo they wanted to keep the other was given only one photo no option. The irony was the group that had the option to choose ended up less happy with the outcome because they couldn't be content with their choice. This is a major factor with women, they have no idea how to be content with what they have. Some men are like that but most learn how to be content and that is a happy healthy thing.
ignorance is bliss, but it is not real, real happiness comes from hardship, not a blase euphoria drug state where you're kept too stupid to know any better.

>I know you have options now in your life but take it from the men and all the studies and data your only true option is to find guy you like, marry him, and have kids. There lies your true happiness.
actually the data I already provided in this thread says you only need to find a partner,
the only partner i'd be okay with is a woman, so kids are out of the question, nevermind pols views on weather I should be allowed to do such a thing.

As for its not like we want to enslave you, you do. that is exactly what you want because there are ways to encourage being a house wife that you refuse to do and as a board culture see as greed rather than the necessity of being a free agent; money. You refuse to pay us for being a house wife, so all of our living expenses and future life of not being out in the street is dependant on your good will. if you actually truly believed that we shouldn't be slaves, you would understand that paying is something we can save is the only way we're going to have the choice to leave if you turn abusive.

>>135531338

>no one knows what a slut is

:^)

>>135535329
>tfw I have a high quality sluty gf
>mixed feels senpai, but muh dick

>>135536306
>women where happier
you're an idiot, our genetic destiny is hunter gathering, and in that situation women where damn near equal (compared to neolithic times). the tribe provided for the tribe. That is our genetic destiny. our scarse species did not have time for the arbitrary modern sexism you wish to enforce.

>>135531338
>>>135534888
>>Zeus
>
>isn't real
>ayy but how dare you doubt MY speshul God
All gods are real, but not all goes are gods.

>>135532158
This.

>>135536270
Because he is a slut.

>>135531971
>but it will make us miserable

Scientific studies say otherwise. Actually, if you look at the correlation between the emancipation of women and women's happiness on average, they are both in flux of each other.

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>>135537975
>demands payment to be wife
>imnotaprostitute.jpg

>>135537975

Why are you under the misconception that /pol/ wants to build some sort of islamic society?

>>135536557
we're not talking about how fucked up the world already is now, we're talking about how your alternative is also broken; wage issues like the fact that women wont get any and thus since money is a requirement for the basic necessities of civilization, they must obey or they will perish. those wage issues.

>>135536850
>getting to fuck 20 chads
>gay flag
kek
maybe the men should stop fucking 20 girls before their marriage too.

>>135537975
>ignorance is bliss, but it is not real, real happiness comes from hardship
Oh please, 90% of the western world isn't experiencing any real hardship, even moreso for women.
Third worlders deal with all sorts of hardships in their daily lives and most of them aren't happy.

>>135531338
"The term is so vague and slippery that no one knows what a bigot was or no one knows what you have to do to be that. It circulated around, though, so everyone could worry about it being attached to them."

>>135537230
Maybe I'll start slinging random articles at you too now and see what sticks.

https://archive.is/KM1qW

>>135537692
>Your first link has to do with employment, which is irrelevant, and the second link has absolutely nothing to do with the topic except for the fact that it states religious people are happier, which has to do a little bit with traditional gender roles.

you're an illiterate moron, try reading the content of the thing before you go running off pretending you're superior to me you fucking pol

>In this day and age where homemaking is so automated I would expect my wife to have part time employment, or self employment, as not to waste her time.
this is against what most of pol wants.

>>135538478
If you're gay why do you give two shits about men talking about marriage?

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>>135531338
Women shouldn't be allowed to vote.

>>135537975
>You refuse to pay us for being a house wife
Demonstrably untrue. There's a reason that women account for the vast majority of consumer spending. You have the power of the purse; you can spend your man's money and you do whenever you have the opportunity.

Yet even though you have fiduciary control, because you don't get a biweekly paycheck of $X paid to the order of: Wifey For: Wifely Duties, you get to claim that being a housewife is "Unpaid Labor", when really it is a role with rights and responsibilities like any other.

>>135538664
topkek

>>135538646
Perhaps you could enlighten me instead of getting agitated. I skimmed through it as I said and have had trouble finding anything relevant.

>this is against what most of pol wants.
I don't think so.

>>135537493
No, never been there.

>>135538327
>imnotaprostitute
rather that than a sex slave.
>>135538379
becuase they regularly say they do whenever this topic came up? these aren't opinions I'm spouting from outside of pol, all of this is repeating what you've told me most frequently when asked.
>>135538320
scientific studies show the exact opposite of what you say, see >>135533621

>>135538646
Actually hold on, I recognize this posting style. You're that lady that got really buttblasted at me when I told you men had much higher chances of being intelligent, right? You also avoided telling me what it is you're taking in college, if I'm not mistaken.

>>135538559
>Oh please, 90% of the western world isn't experiencing any real hardship, even moreso for women.
so 90% of white men are just bitching about white erasure?
>Third worlders deal with all sorts of hardships in their daily lives and most of them aren't happy.
no shit. and most 3rd worlds aren't exactly swimming with womens rights either.

>>135538621
>gibs an article I have to pay for
seems legit though, will read if i can find it for free.
doesn';t change the fact that I've already shown significant evidence to the contrary so at mininum it is contested and at maximum its a NZ quirk.

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We don't, all hope is lost.
The divorce rate is nearing 50%, and they have the power to take half of everything you've worked for your entire life.
We abandon western women, they have abonded us. They have no loyalty to their race or culture.
We import.
Foreign / "mail order" bride marriages have a divorce rate of 20%, less than half of domestic marriages.
Even Trump, with all the money and power he has, who could get any woman he pleases, chose to import a bride.
And if you go Asian, they don't fucking crack, they still look like 15-16 years olds at age 30. The only downside to asians is the hapa kids.

>>135538664
becuase I'm a woman and most of you don't want me to have any choice but to marry a man to not be homeless. the rest actually want to hang me,.

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>>135533621
>http://worldfamilymap.ifstudies.org/2015/articles/essay-2
> used one country in Africa: South Africa
> used no countries in Middle East

Your entire post is garbage, Anon.

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>>135537330
No you dolt. Studies show mothers want to be at home with their children.

>>135538723
>Demonstrably untrue. There's a reason that women account for the vast majority of consumer spending. You have the power of the purse; you can spend your man's money and you do whenever you have the opportunity.
lol no, this is pols society, not the broken 1950s. "mother may I" is the only way you're going to spend your mans investment on some frivelty, but regardless, they can take it all away since its all his. the point is to have your own personal savings so that you aren't screwed and forced to stay

>>135538179
>>135538179
hey man, as long as she's loyal i don't see any problem with that.

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>>135538879
Take a fucking joke you moron.
No one on pol seriously wants that backwards society unless they’re autistic and don’t understand this place. All /pol/ wants is people to respect each other and themselves as well as where they came from, in order to stop selfish degenerate behavior and better society as a whole.

>>135531971
Wrong. I have a red pilled, hot, traditional wife who makes a lot more than me. Men don't want to control you, they want you to control yourself. Sort yourself out

>>135539135
>so 90% of white men are just bitching about white erasure?
What the hell does that have to do with hardships you actually face in the modern world?
>and most 3rd worlds aren't exactly swimming with womens rights either.
Right, because they're poor.
"Women's rights" only exists in wealthy countries because quality of life is better, that's the only reason women even get to complain about anything to begin with, because of the countries the men in the west (and a select few in the east) built.
>>135539179
Rather dead than homeless, amirite?
You'll get no sympathy from me m8, plenty of carpet-munchers got married.
Granted, I don't agree with /pol/ forcing gays to marry, I think it'd be better if you don't breed and pass on more defects.

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>>135531338
Stop challenging gender norms

>>135531338
there's no such thing as a nazi,bigot, racist, sexist, Hitler.

>>135531338
by fixing western man you fag

>>135535813
And therein lies the crux of your disagreements. Literal belief vs nonliteral

>>135538834
>I don't think so
then you should talk to your nuetral idiots about how to not be silent becuase career chasing is damned here. you can easily work from home on many things even and they still despise it and consider it greed that we want to do so.
>enlighten me
both articles have a clear area that discusses happiness of women or couples based on their working traditions. the second one shows the couples, and shows that the main factor is not traditional gender roles or neo traditional gender roles, but that single status offered the most negative quality of life, nothing to do with how the marriage works. the first has a section on sex that clearly shows the negative effects of unemployment on womens happiness and quality of life. generally speaking this gap is not as wide as for men (obviously) but that doesn't mean the gap doesn't fucking exist. having a career is a net positive for a woman, with part time being the most flexible for female happiness. not having a job at all negatively impacts happiness.

Obviously the latter includes singles, so its likely unemployed women could be happy if they are married but the problem of course is what happens when that marriage falters. but to say that careers actually make women unhappy is factually bullshit.

>>135539179
When your gender pulls bullshit like this:

1) https://youtu.be/mpI3y4Nqt4Y

>>135539179
>becuase I'm a woman and most of you don't want me to have any choice but to marry a man to not be homeless
Who says this? We recommend a lifestyle based on the fact that we believe it will lead to the deepest happiness. You could be celibate, have a career, which women have never been barred from, but this is genetically suicidal, either you admit to being a defect by enjoying this lifestyle or you realize you've made a terrible mistake when you grow too old.

>>135538996
no idea, i have a lot of conversations on female intelligence here in pol, and odds are if you ended up disagreeing with me you're probably a moron who thought that telling you to own up to your beliefs was the same as telling you you're wrong. the men here do not act superior, they act like dumb children, in addition to that, when confronted with what they believe to be reality of females being mentally inferior, they come up with all kinds of excuses about how we're different but still equal.

>>135539984
Why the fuck would anyone want to be a wageslave? Who the fuck enjoys this shit. Work is soulcrushing.

Are you a masochist?

>>135531338
Sage goes in all fields

>>135540252
She's gay, ergo she wants to be a man.
Pretty understandable, just like the twinks that want a daddy to take care of them.

>>135539309
no studies show women want to work you fucking illiterate mongoloid. jesus christ stay at home mothers is the smallest perameter on that graph and you treat it like its the largest.

>>135539188
no that would be yours.

>>135539431
>hurf hurf we're just joking, promise we wont gas you faggut hur
i could say the same about the left and it would fall on deaf ears. heres the reality. if you actually believe that this place does not support murder for those you don't like, restriction of womens rights and voting, etc etc. then why not do a poll and show that? asking me to take it on faith that someone repeatedly saying theyre gonna kill and or enslave me is joking is the same as asking you to take it on faith that islamic fags are just joking about shiria

>>135539435
your opinions are good but they are not popular snekbro

>>135540672
pol users aren’t that retarded. you’re thinking of r/t_d

>>135539536
>What the hell does that have to do with hardships you actually face in the modern world?
you told me 90% of the western world doesnt know what real problems are.

>Right, because they're poor.
>thats the only reason women get to complain
actually no senpai, we get to complain both at the topety topest societies and the bottom of bottomest societies. womens rights follows an unverse bell curve based on prosperity.

>>135540379
Makes sense.

>>135539536
>Granted, I don't agree with /pol/ forcing gays to marry, I think it'd be better if you don't breed and pass on more defects.
you are literally the first person I ever saw that understands this.

Gay marriage is the only way forward for us fags, monogamy is a necessity. now that we're in we just have to squeeze marriage into something resembling a real social contract again instead of a jewish death trap.

>>135531971
Tits or GTFO and your happiness isnt worth more than a functioning society you dumb vapid cunt

>>135539994
didn't say things are great now, just that I'm not keen to jump into your oven bro

>>135540883
>you told me 90% of the western world doesnt know what real problems are.
I said 90% of the western world doesn't face real hardships, which is true.
The willing erasure of your people isn't the same as not having access to fresh water because you live in bumfuck Africa and all of the sources of fresh water are controlled by warlords.
>we get to complain both at the topety topest societies and the bottom of bottomest societies.
Let me rephrase that, only in developed countries are these complaints taken seriously.
In the third world, most of these complaints are ignored, and in a large portion of sub-saharan Africa, gays are still burned alive.

>>135539984
Single parents are bad and idle hands are the devil's workshop. As I said, I just don't see the connection to your argument.

>but to say that careers actually make women unhappy is factually bullshit.
I've never implied this. I most certainly would want my wife to be doing something financially productive, they always have. What do you think cottage industry is? Women being exclusively houseservants is a 1950s meme, and Isn't actual traditionalism.
>the problem of course is what happens when that marriage falters.
I would hope that you don't put yourself in this situation in the first place.

>>135540104
>having children.
alzyhimers, poor eyesight, kidney trouble, the gay, why would I ever pass on these genes?

>we recommend
as long as that continues to be the case I dont care, but that is not what most of pol speaks of, they speak of force of arms and law. they do not want equality.

>>135541107
>Not keen to jump into your oven
>Implying you have a choice.

>>135541029
Marriage doesnt bring monogamy, but instead gay marriage will devalue marriage even more.

>>135541029
>you are literally the first person I ever saw that understands this.
Kek, now I know you're full of shit.
Plenty of people on /pol/ have espoused the idea of faggots not being forced to hide who they are so they don't pass on their genes.
The real way to fix marriage would be to cut out the state entirely and just make it a religious ceremony, which many denominations and religions do.
Fuck, that's what a lot of Muslims do, hence why their marriage court is separate from western courts.

>>135540252
wage slave is better than slave slave. as a wage slave I may be destitute but I have a roof over my head, no one can tell me what to do in it, and my company cant deny me the right to spend my money because they think "that stuff isn't for girls"

>>135531338
theres no such thing as a slut yet women still call each other whores and slut

>>135531338
>screamed the sluts

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>>135540855
theyre frequently posted here. either make the poll and prove it or accept that people will take you at face value. I love to meme like anyone else but this is politics. memes don't stay dreams in this board.

I love my girlfriend to bits and there's reason I've already decided in my head she will be my wife. She's on another planet compared to her peers.

Keep looking brothers. You'll find a qt virgin marriage material blonde eventually.

>>135531338
>no such thing as a slut
>still get mad when called one
You know damn well what a slut is. You look at it in the mirror every morning.

For those who are interested, more info on the evolution of the term can be found here: http://etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=slut

>>135541268
I'm certainly not interested in equality either. At no point do I recommend women become full time employed and cease being homemakers, I only believe they shouldn't waste time.

>why would I ever pass on these genes?
Probably because that's the only actual reason you exist.

>>135541366
It's all the same. It is all soulcrushing. You are trading not having a choice for the illusion of having a choice. Its all the same.

>>135541162
>Let me rephrase that, only in developed countries are these complaints taken seriously.
lol no senpai, everyone listens to women in tribal societies too. do you even into economics? labor scarcity. nobody has time to cry about muh inferior women.

>>135541366
Also hold the fuck up. Do you think that women in the 50's were slaves?? If so you are a lunatic.

>>135540247
Oh no, I vaguely remember our conversation and I most certainly said I don't believe that men and women are equal.

The only issue mouth breathers like you have with western women is that they want to fuck everyone but you.

You're simply just an example of genetic garbage.

>>135531971
traps dont count

>>135541719
Yea a retarded women who'd have thunk it ?

>>135541346
see, this right here. why should I pretend thats a joke? only the fact that they lack the power actually keeps me save.

>>135541347
lol no senpai, gay marriage does bring monogamy, just not enough because sleeping around while married is legal.

>>135541710
>lol no senpai, everyone listens to women in tribal societies too. do you even into economics? labor scarcity.
Kek, in a tribal society you can just assert your dominance and rape them, all you have to do is defend your women and children from other men.
But I'd love to hear you bring up that one Chinese tribe and all the lies women like to spread about them, you seem like the kind of person who'd post on places like /lgbt/ and lolcow, and they spout that shit all the time.

>>135541773
Equality is a myth. Nature is heirachy. Nothing, knowone is equal. Everyone has there value. Some more than others.

>>135541841
To be fair I have no Idea if I'm joking.

Defining a slut is hard, but everyone can agree on who isn't a slut: a virgin

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>>135541554
see >>135541363

you keep saying make a poll as if that’s a function. Autistic summerfags, shills, and conspiracy theorists are not the majority of /pol/. You obviously haven’t been here long enough to understand that.

>>135541363
>Plenty of people on /pol/ have espoused the idea of faggots not being forced to hide who they are so they don't pass on their genes.
I've only ever seen this in the form of them not wanting them to be alive. and while I'm not home board pol i have been around long enough that I've seen enough opinions here on the gay, such topics are only even touched upon in the "unpopular opinions" threads and by their very nature insinuate that most of pol believes that they are not popular opinions
>The real way to fix marriage would be to cut out the state entirely and just make it a religious ceremony, which many denominations and religions do.
this would work in theory but how do you arbitrate power of attourney? there has to be something

>>135541841
>Gay marriage brings monogamy.

Spend 10 minutes in commiefornia and you will realise gays are degenerates and having a certificate saying you are married isn't going to stop them from touching kids and chasing bugs.

>>135531338

Any women who says there's no such thing as a slut is one. Period.
Women know damn well what sluts are. Denial probably FEELS like it helps, but it just makes you look fucking retarded.
Shoulda kept it in your panties bitches.
You've made yourselves more undesirable
with each passing fuck.

>>135541592
>only reason i exist
I exist to pass on my genetic heritage, I can do that by not passing on genes that aren't shit while supporting society in other ways.

This is also behavior I would not expect from a superior; incapable of understanding why passing on your own personal genes is not the only way to contribute to the wellbeing of the human enterpise.

>>135542067
I've never understood this. Why can't gay people just be regular people who just happen to like men? Why do they all have to be filthier than the lowliest drugged out prostitute?

>>135542022
It is probably best that we let fags get married. If you threaten them with death then they will just pretend to be straight and we won't be able to take them out of the gene pool.

>>135541614
>the illusion of having a choice.
lol okay senpai whatever you say. I can choose where to live, what i want to buy, what investments to make, and what to do with my free time. I can even chose when I want to marry.

>>135541841
and that makes you a fucking moron because it’s an obvious joke. >>135541922 this is also a joke.

>>135540758
>appeal to popularity
Literally not an argument

>>135542265
Congratulations. You have reduced yourself down to an economic unit who keeps yourself satiated with materialism.

>>135542022
>I've only ever seen this in the form of them not wanting them to be alive.
That's mainly because a lot of fags (like a lot of women, niggers, etc.) are extremely subversive and constantly support leftist ideologies that undermine western society.
If this didn't happen as much, you wouldn't have people on /pol/ calling for the death of niggers, faggots, women, etc. etc.
That said, most of it is memery, the equivalent of "Fuck these people, they're the antithesis of everything I believe."
Funny part is, the "kill them" shit works, otherwise you wouldn't be here reacting to it.
>this would work in theory but how do you arbitrate power of attourney?
Through an arbitration lawyer?
You don't need the state to be involved in a marriage for power of attorney to exist anon.

>>135542201
daily reminder that being gay was considered a mental illness until political pressure dictated the attitudes of the APA

>>135541719
lol wut. pol wants to go back to traditional values, IE remove the 19th ammendment, what makes you think they want to go back to the 50s? they only say the 50s because its iconic of their delusion that life was always like the 50s backwards until womens rights fucked it up. I'm talking about the 1700s and earlier, back when women where property you had to pay to get rid of, and arranged marriages where the norm, when women could not find respectable employment and men could do just about anything they wanted with them.

>>135542186
You'd be thinking of memetic heritage then, right? Or are you implying your sacrifice will further the genes of your tribe, so to speak, and thereby further yours by proxy? If so then I can see that as noble, though I wish you would do it without being a lesbian.

>>135541773
then you're not a self defeating faggot. but I recommend if you believe in your superiority you encourage your fellow man to stop acting like, as others put it, derranged the donald lunatics.

>>135541858
>Kek, in a tribal society you can just assert your dominance and rape them, all you have to do is defend your women and children from other men.
lol no, this shit doesnt fly in a tribe because you get murdered in your sleep at worst or exhiled at best, rape happened from intertribal conflict mostly.

>>135542201
reminder that gays are exponentially more likely to be mentally ill and exponentially more likely to be pedophiles. they also have a much shorter lifespan

>>135542489
you a bored 4chan troll or a dumb tumbler user?

>>135542431
Because whenever traditionalism is brought up the 50's is used as an example. Also women where not nor have ever been slaves in the way that you seem to think they were.

>>135542580
>Murder your rapist in his sleep

>Tribe finds out, kills you/sacrifices you/burns you alive
OR
>Leave tribe to avoid punishment, die in the wild due to lack of protection from tribal unit
Most tribal societies had loose definitions of consent at absolute best, look at many modern African, Aboriginal, and Asian tribes that haven't been modernized.
The fact that you think women were anything but a commodity in tribal societies is hilarious.

>>135542427

Gay? They're born with it. Supposedly. You see
it's a chemical imbalance in the brain.
Which supports abnormal and unhealthy behavior.
Used to be considered? Or not?
That IS insanity. That's mental illness.
You couldn't match the definition better.

>>135542763
lol 50s are very far from traditionalism

>>135542821
Alot of fags are also a result of sexual abuse as children.

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>>135542205
jesus christ the logic i've been hopelessly shilling is starting to take hold, I'm in fucking tears.
>>135542201
I actually figured this out from looking at the data you guys have on gays
it boils down to gays being basically normal. the problem is not their minds but who we've adapted to date and who they are dating instead. take gay promiscuity, men are extreme sluts, they want toput it in everything, but they can't, because women are fucking cunts all the time and want you to prove yourself and shit. so what happens when you can have no strings attached sex because the person on the other end thinks and wants exactly what you do? this is also why lesbians are more violent, both women want security and commitment, so they commit before they even know if theyre compatible, then everything goes tits up.

The drug connection is just the fact that we've been ostracised until now, so you get the forced association of criminal activity.

>>135542473
pretty much both of those at once.

>>135542728
why should I know anything about the reddit subboard that plagues you. I only know about it in detail because of mlpol.

>>135542763
>women were not slaves in the way I think they are
no we pretty much where, what most feminists are guilty of ignoring is that most men in those times had it pretty shit too.

>>135543123
I've always thought that. Although before I was redpilled on how degenerate gays are I always thought it was retarded that republicans were against gay marriage because all it did was give the left a massive cudgel to beat them with.

>>135542783
>he thinks i'm gonna do the murdering
jesus you're dumb.
>comparing us to africa
we're talking preneolithic senpai, the period that defined our evolution was one of unbridled scarcity. it was nothing like africa has now.

>>135543566
>jesus you're dumb.
Uhh, are you implying that the men who murder the other man who would perform the raping wouldn't also rape you?
Because if so, you're an idiot.
>we're talking preneolithic senpai, the period that defined our evolution was one of unbridled scarcity.
Which meant murdering an able-bodied man who could hunt, fish, build a hut, and contribute to the tribe would only hurt the tribe, especially if his only crime was "he put his dick in this unclaimed female against her will."

>>135543739
>wouldn't also rape you
maybe if i was a slave from another tribe, but instead i'm gonna be a daughter of some other member of the tribe, so guess who's going to be always nearby to beat the shit out of him?
>Which meant murdering an able-bodied man who could hunt, fish, build a hut, and contribute to the tribe would only hurt the tribe, especially if his only crime was "he put his dick in this unclaimed female against her will."
father still decides sexual selection senpai. we werent that free. thats where female promiscuity came in, getting around your dad, but in all other cases, rape is going to piss off the patriarch who spent more of his time and effort raising the girl. so of course the able bodied fuckwhit is going to get the shit beaten out of him and told to fuck off. he just ruined all of that mans hard work raising a daughter.

>>135536173
How do you think they became single mothers, numb nuts? Because they fucked an upstanding man, or from fucking a slut?

>>135540252
That's not true tho. I'm 25, I've been a NEET most of my adult life. I worked a few odd jobs here and there, but nothing longer than 6 months. It was fun for the first few years, but eventually the depression sets in. You loose your purpose, you feel aimless and useless. Showing up to work everyday at some shitty job may suck, but at least it gives your life some purpose.
And it does get better. I started at the bottom, working the most shitty job at McDonald's, scrubbing the firers at 4am for minimum wage. Each Job I did get was a step up from the last. Now at this most recent job I really put the work in and got promoted withing the first 2 months or so.

>>135544006
What is your opinion on peer-reviewed studies?

>>135544006
>but instead i'm gonna be a daughter of some other member of the tribe, so guess who's going to be always nearby to beat the shit out of him?
Your dad would be the one to give you away to the man in the first place, and you can bet your ass that he would "rape" you.
>he just ruined all of that mans hard work raising a daughter.
Unless he caused some kind of tissue damage or beat her and made her infertile somehow, no, he didn't.
Kek, you have a hilariously romanticized view of tribal life anon, in a time of intense scarcity, all you're kept around for is your eggs, that's it.
The patriarch only remains the patriarch while he's the strongest male (or in some cases if he's literally worshipped).

>>135544009
Plenty of women like slutty men.
A man who fucks a lot of women is desired, much like a virgin who hasn't fucked a woman is less desired, at least when it comes to men.
Men are more likely to desire a virgin, especially when it comes to marriage.

>>135543123
Do you believe homosexuality is genetic and can be passed on? Do you honestly has been born bi and has been repressing it or do you think they have been recently manipulated into this degeneracy?

>>135544273
>Your dad would be the one to give you away to the man in the first place, and you can bet your ass that he would "rape" you.
dads not going to give you away to a cunt, he wants the best for his family.

>Unless he caused some kind of tissue damage or beat her and made her infertile somehow, no, he didn't.
>some fucking kid rapes your daughter before she can be married to a mate.
>no longer a virgin
yeah no nigger
>Kek, you have a hilariously romanticized view of tribal life anon, in a time of intense scarcity, all you're kept around for is your eggs, that's it.
no, you have a deranged view. in a time of scarcity, what is scarce is labor. there is no men do the talking women shut up, everyone has knowledge that is vital, there is no men do this women aren';t allowed. everyone does whatever they can, from hunting to raising children together. the sexism is completely utilitarian, nobodys going to throw away a long lived womans wisdom because muh "thot" syndrome. you don't have time to establish strict gender roles. berries are going out of season, it doesnt matter if you like hunting more, you're picking berries.

>>135544519
Do you honestly believe half the population has been born bi*

>>135544519
I believe homosexuality is an intersex trait and is inherited, weather the genes of the offspring cause it or the genes of the mother that defines their natal process or both is not yet understood afaik, but my odds are the mothers plays a significant role.

>>135544677
I've never heard of this idea. and it sounds dumb, bis typically live their lives straight though.

>>135539319
Then why was most of the marketing in the 50's targeted towards women if they had no money?

>>135544612
>he wants the best for his family.
And the best for his family would be for his daughter to go out and have kids with a strong male, so yes, he would definitely be giving you away to a male he deems acceptable, and in a tribal society "acceptable" does not mean "won't ever force her to have sex."
>yeah no nigger
Again, you're under the implication that her husband wouldn't rape her.
>you don't have time to establish strict gender roles. berries are going out of season, it doesnt matter if you like hunting more, you're picking berries.
Nigger, in a time of scarcity a tribe that doesn't defend its women dies the fuck off, sperm have always been disposable, eggs are not, so a woman has more value beyond going out and hunting, sure, some women did hunt, but most tribal peoples were not utilitarian societies, because utilitarian societies had more female deaths, and often died out because of this.

>>135544961
becuase they had money. see >>135542431

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>>135531971
Ok you dumb bitch, lemme lay it out for you. You can either have a career, or you can be homemaker. The two are mutually exclusive. You will never be the best mother you can be if you'd rather give some corporation your attention instead of your own children. Conversely, you will never be the most successful businesswoman you can be if you decide you want to raise a family. Stagnant wages, rising cost of living and the indoctrination of public schooling ensures you will never have your cake and eat it too. In the old school societies, you could choose to be a businesswoman, or marry, as long as you made it clear you were fucking competent at what you did. The sexual revolution lowered the bar for raising children, compensation for work, and society in general.
Realize the Boomers fucked us over so they can live like entitled shitstains in youth and retirement, and feminism is a sweet lie to cover corruption of civilization.

>>135544988
>And the best for his family would be for his daughter to go out and have kids with a strong male, so yes, he would definitely be giving you away to a male he deems acceptable, and in a tribal society "acceptable" does not mean "won't ever force her to have sex."
actually what matters here is that he treats me well, which shows he is a wise ruler because I'm going to be a fucking mother of his children, dumb nigger

>Again, you're under the implication that her husband wouldn't rape her.
you're under the impression a man is going to soil the relationship with the father by doing so. people who want to do this kind of thing just take slaves from neighboring tribes you moron

>Nigger, in a time of scarcity a tribe that doesn't defend its women dies the fuck off, sperm have always been disposable, eggs are not, so a woman has more value beyond going out and hunting, sure, some women did hunt, but most tribal peoples were not utilitarian societies, because utilitarian societies had more female deaths, and often died out because of this.
I feel like you have a complete case of stupid since you don't seem to understand what utilitarian is.

>>135531971
>I owe society nothing
>society, gibs please

>>135545259
>actually what matters here is that he treats me well, which shows he is a wise ruler because I'm going to be a fucking mother of his children
And herein lies the problem, you think "treats me well" means "won't force me to have sex."
And you're wrong.
>you're under the impression a man is going to soil the relationship with the father by doing so.
And you're under the impression that the father would even consider it rape, and if he did that he'd consider it bad.

>>135545137
lol this part is stupid
>muh women entered the work force
women where in the workforce,
but everything else about it is true. I dont understand the desire to not work, I dont want to die nor get old, but if I get old I feel like I should still be working, not sitting around doing nothing.

>>135544746
The fact is that there is an incredible surge of people identifying as non-heterosexual, and the connection between abuse and homosexuality has made me believe homosexuality is a product of nurture. It's also most certainly a mental illness, and it deserve as much toleration as transsexualism does. What I'm trying to say as I get more and more tired is that I believe a homosexual can be made from a heterosexual, and vice versa, and therefore it should be repressed as to avoid creating more people with mental problems. Though I don't think you should be executed, and neither have the rest of my countrymen for as long as we've existed. Homosexuality has never been illegal in my country, I suppose it's to give you a chance at redemption, but I could absolutely never allow homosexual marriage to corrupt the institution of marriage even further. There's tolerance and then there's submission.

>>135545764
>but if I get old I feel like I should still be working, not sitting around doing nothing.
So you don't want to spend time with your family when you're older?
You don't have any siblings, nieces, nephews, cousins, or anything that you bond with?

>>135545584
>And herein lies the problem, you think "treats me well" means "won't force me to have sex."
generally, it does. unless you're into that kind of thing, which a lot of women where.

>And you're under the impression that the father would even consider it rape, and if he did that he'd consider it bad.
if the woman complains it obviously wasnt good. most women and men who where legitimately raped don't even tell, shes not going to get brushed off by the father if its enough of an issue she has to talk about it to someone.

>>135545001

Women do the shopping. Shopping is gay as fuck. Tip toe around picking out nonsense sugar with bright colored packages.

>>135532810

No. Also men should also only have 1 sexual partner.

>>135545797
>What I'm trying to say as I get more and more tired is that I believe a homosexual can be made from a heterosexual, and vice versa, and therefore it should be repressed as to avoid creating more people with mental problems.
people who say that shit in my experiance say it to get attention then stop after about 2-4 years. take the die cis scum girl with the bat and the dyke cut. shes a normal fucking girl now.

>>135545926
>generally, it does.
Today it does.
Back then?
No, not really.
Hell, the idea of consent itself mainly started showing up within the last 4000 years or so.
>if the woman complains it obviously wasnt good.
And that relies on both her complaining and her father actually taking her seriously and not considering it a non-issue, which isn't very likely.
If the man provides, protects her, is strong, cares for his children, and is good genetic stock, it didn't really matter how he treated her sexually.

>>135546014
man still has to hand her the money.

>>135542355
>Congratulations. You have reduced yourself down to an economic unit who keeps yourself satiated with materialism.
It's no secret that women are the best Good Goy Slaves of the Globalist World Order. Think about any average woman in your life, even your mother/grandmother/aunts/sister(s).

Their entire life revolves around, and is punctuated by, CONSUMING.

>>135531338
Remember when they tried to ban the word bossy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dynbzMlCcw

>>135546129
What makes you so sure you'll be different?

>>135534334

IMO Its better to get the baby making done early in life...so long as you can decently afford it anyways. Waiting until 40 plus is too late.

>>135546160
>And that relies on both her complaining and her father actually taking her seriously and not considering it a non-issue, which isn't very likely.
If the man provides, protects her, is strong, cares for his children, and is good genetic stock, it didn't really matter how he treated her sexually.
you keep saying this lie but it doesnt make it true, having a damaged hurt woman is not how you get a good mother. its usually what causes one to spread the abuse to the children. stop being retarded please

>>135541347
>gay marriage will devalue marriage even more.
Good. The institution of marriage has been corrupted since faggot Reagan introduced no fault divorce. It needs to be crashed to be rebuilt.

Not to watch (((Porn))).

>>135546191
But you're a stronk indypyndynt womyn with a Gynder Studies degree who makes $50k/yr checking facebook for 8 hrs a day (it's called a "secretary"/"administrative assistant" job)

fucking hands off my wallet

>>135546286
>having a damaged hurt woman is not how you get a good mother
You yourself just admitted that most women were into being dominated sexually, so a woman being "raped" by her husband wouldn't cause her to fail at being a good mother.

>>135531338
(((The Atlantic)))

>>135541029
>you are literally the first person I ever saw that understands this.

Then you're not on here as often as you claim to be. I have advocated for it too since it will most likely decrease the spread of STDs because 99% of homos are degenerate sluts. Bi's are essentially pathogen vectors that pass STDs from gays to straights.

>>135546306
This shit right here.

>>135531971
>but it will make us miserable
Good goy.
Women were the happiest in the 50s according to all surveys.

>>135531338
>no one knows what a slut is

Do roasties actually believe this?

>>135531971
>Using the word "enslave", then expecting anons to have a fair and intelligent discourse on the subject.

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>>135546263
because I knew i was gay from A: a very young age
B: I didn't use it to get attention but actively hid it
and C: the idea of being with a man fills me with constant disgust, at most if i was forced to marry one i could love them like a family member, but i'd have no sexual attraction, and any close bonding behavior would be desensitization, it would be like if homosexuality was normal and expected and you tried to desensitize yourself to getting lovey dovey with a guy. you could potentially make your reaction to their affection indifference at best. you wouldn't ever start liking it.

>>135546124
According to whom? To virgin loser?

>>135546417
yes because its "Rape" not rape.

>>135546479
both sides aren't fond of bi shits. and the reason I say i've been around long enough to get an idea is that I've shilled this truth and got nothing but hur lol we'll just kill you or >implying you'd ever treat marriage like a commitment

>>135546574
but thats exactly what I'm getting, except for yknow, the faggot going on about how tribal society wasn't more egalitarian than the neolithic revolution

>>135546611

Its simple mathematics. If there is an even split in the population between men and women, then requiring that women only have one sexual partner automatically induces a requirement that men also only have one sexual partner.

The only way to have men with more that one sexual partner while requiring that women only have one is by having males with no sexual partners. Ultimately this will result in both males and females that cannot be married or have children without crossing the threshold into multiple partners.

>>135545001
You're starting to contradict yourself now. You're saying they weren't paid for being a housewife, but then sy the husbands give them an allowance, which sounds a lot like payment. Then they have to ask what they can buy, which would not make sense since advertisements were directed towards them. If the men decided what needed to be bought, then ads would be directed towards them.

You are not following your own logic and fabricated outrage.

>>135546714
Rape requires sexual domination, if it's an unclaimed female and her father isn't the patriarch of the tribe, there's not much he can do besides try to kill the man who he feels defiled his daughter, and unless the male is some extremely young weakling, the father very often won't be as strong or as capable considering most people in that age died fairly young due to disease and the like.
Or, as was the case with many religions, marry the two.
IIRC even Mexican towns/cities have laws in which a rape victim is married off to her rapist.

>>135546347
lol no senpai, the society we're discussing doesn't have women working for anything/yr
>implying I'm not going STEM

>>135546600
Not to get too armchair psychologist here, but did you experience any traumatic events in your youth? Do you believe it might have something to do with the fact that you earlier stated that you believe you are genetically unfit to reproduce? And have you not seen the amount of guys here attracted to traps nowadays? I just think that attraction like this is much less robotic and can be changed. I don't know if this negro is lying, but he's been able to become straight, as he puts it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mPKnUJcT9I

>>135531338
>"The term is so vague and slippery that no one knows what [it] was or no one knows what you have to do to be that."
Kinda like "Racist" or "Sexist".

>>135531338
The term "slut" is almost exclusively used by women to disqualify other women from male attention. Same as beta use "jerk", same as liberals use world "racist".
Fact of the matter that men love sluts, in 21 century marriage only benefits the woman and sluts are the perfect solution to this. If you have ok genetics you can literally fuck hundreds of girls without any commitment. That something only very few Alphas could achieve throughout history.

>>135542201
because men have huge sexual drive bigger than women

>>135547012
>Rape requires sexual domination, if it's an unclaimed female and her father isn't the patriarch of the tribe, there's not much he can do besides try to kill the man who he feels defiled his daughter, and unless the male is some extremely young weakling, the father very often won't be as strong or as capable considering most people in that age died fairly young due to disease and the like
lol no, people didn't live to 30 and then keeled over, learn what infant mortality is

>Or, as was the case with many religions, marry the two
depends on the level of rape, it isn't going to work for violent fags who think they can do whatever they want, theyre a danger to the tribe. its like forcing a white woman to marry a nigger because the nigger raped them, at some point you have to cut your losses and kick out the chafe if theyre not going to abide the chief and councils rules.

most of the time in neolithic times the married spouse didn't marry her rapist but rather the rapist was forced to foot the bill for her dowry.

>>135546811
So you got like what, 10 to 20 replies saying that? On a board that gets thousands of views and replies a day? You're the embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Too retarded to recognize your own retardation.

>>135547023
So you don't have a STEM job yet? Don't talk about what you're "gonna" do, talk about what you're already doing.

you millennials nowadays need to get your fucking head out of the clouds

>wul..when I'm GONNA start the race war
>wul when I finally become a famous DJ
>wul after I'm hired for my 100% confirmed STEM job after I graduate from Provost Shekelberg's school

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>>135537975
There is one good point in this mess. Women crave security. In the case of an abusive husband or a deadbeat, the woman is cheated out of a good provider and family. Money is a security blanket to keep the family away from undesirables, to keep the family afloat.
This bitch may be an evil lesbian but she hits one point that Hitler realized. He had incentives for families to form - giving more money to couples so they could form roots and reproduce.
Don't let your bitterness and mistrust of roasties prevent you from realizing that society you crave requires men to have loving wives, and women to have breadwinning husbands.
In Japan, the men work and give their earnings over to their wives, who manage the household and thus are better suited to understanding what needs to addressed at home. If you think that this basic model doesn't apply to your old timey society of yore, you're just a robot autist who still hasn't taken the redpill.
You've just been working up to it after being thrown a few bad curveballs in life.

>>135547331
>lol no, people didn't live to 30 and then keeled over, learn what infant mortality is
Nigger, people still died from and were weakened by disease, and no, most people even 400 years ago didn't live to see 70, which is pretty common nowadays, especially in the west.
>at some point you have to cut your losses and kick out the chafe if theyre not going to abide the chief and councils rules.
And if the chief and councils saw nothing wrong with an unmarried woman being raped by an unmarried man, said woman was out of luck.

>>135546928
Society never worked like this and never will. There will always be women who fucks a lot and there always will be men who fuck a lot. Men who fuck a lot are high value and can get themselves a young virgin wife when they sated and women who fuck a lot a low value and can get themselves virgin beta loser to settle.
That how it always was and that how it always will be.

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>>135547058
not really. I had a early divorce but i was too young to remember it, and moved in with a new father in a very white community shortly after that divorce.

the reason my parents divorced is that my dad was born with one antrophied kidney and it made him angry and reckless. he cheated with my mom and was caught.

Other than that I did not experiance any abuse i can remember.

>guys attracted to traps
science already shows this is normal in some sense. same reason why a bunch of women like shit like edward cullen.

as for becoming straight, I only really respect scientific sources and the fact is most gay camps are not effective at changing orientation, likely its possible to achieve desensitization and thus be intimate with someone you aren't attracted to. but it may as well be a coke bottle for all it stirs eroticism and sexual magnetism in you.

in my case a coke bottle with a beard

>>135542355
Other than an "ascetic philosopher", what other forms of existence do human beings occupy. A unit consumer is the ground state of every living thing.

>>135547373
>out of the thousands of views and replies every day
only the replies and views talking about the same subject count for comparison, you should maybe look into the dunning kruger effect, I think it's got you locked down tight in its grip if you dont understand why comparing the number of opinions on gays posted on pols is supposed to be compared with the output of the entire board instead of the number of posts that contradict prevelant opinions.

>>135547535
I already did you mong.

>>135547644

This depends a great deal on the culture of any given society.

>>135531338
>women having friends turns them into sluts

That explains why my shut-in gf who lived with her parents was still a virgin at 26.

>>135547644
never heard such wisdom from russian

>>135531971
>implying that makes women miserable
totkek

>>135547540
um, senpai, while I dont necissarily think giving women a wage is wrong, you probably shouldn't look up to japan, japanese men are barely even involved with their own family. its a huge problem and women there are even worse gold diggers than here.

>>135534071
>One partner for women in her lifetime means every man will have only one woman in his lifetime too and men don't want that.
its impossible to achieve anyway, men far outnumber women. we need wars and shit, yo

>>135547828
>parents divorce
>father cheats on mother and is caught
This one really doesn't take an expert to read into, come on. And the guy didn't go to a camp, he did it alone.

>>135548214
can confirm as a permavirgin dyke that having only 1 male friend in my youth that lasted supports this hypothesis

>>135532810
Absolutely not.

>>135547573
given the council was often composed of men and women that usually wasnt the case senpai. you can fap or schlic furiously to whatever sexual fantasy you want but intertribal rape was rare and unwelcome.

>>135542489
Neither are superior but they both have different roles to play within society.
Women have through most of history been care-givers in the sense of nurses and nuns(job wise) and mothers at home, whereas men have took on other roles such as hunting and war. Both are better built for that specific role - men being stronger and taller/women having breasts and better emotional intelligence - it is what will make us both happier if we assume these roles.

>>135547573
by intertribal i mean within the tribe, not between tribes.
fuck there has to be some distinction

>>135548668
>but intertribal rape was rare and unwelcome.
Mainly due to the ownership of women.
No man wanted his woman defiled by another man, and a woman who was defiled by another man was often seen as a lesser because of it.

>>135543123
Gays are not normal anon.

>>135548477
>parents divorce
>father cheats on mother and is caught
>This one really doesn't take an expert to read into, come on.
you suggesting my father raped me senpai? lol no.

>>135548704
>emotional intelligence
oh here we go with the retards who think having the naivety of a child makes you "emotionally intelligent"

>>135548704
I think not only are both happier when they assume their own proper roles, but when the other side does as well.

Men are happier and perform better in their roles as fighter and hunter when they have a good home maintained by a caring wife. Likewise, women are happier and better in their role when they have a strong husband who can protect and provide for them.

It's a constant cycle of mutual benefit and mutual support.

>>135548823
I said their minds are normal in the sense that their sexual behavior is the same as straight people, what changed was their target of affections reactions to that behavior, which can have unexpected and negative effects since we evolved tendencies that where meant to contest one another; ie women and men have different values and don't agree on everything, making finding a pairing harder. when finding a pair is too easy things can go awry.

>>135548851
No, I think he's implying that seeing a heterosexual relationship fail miserably probably had an effect on you.
I'm fairly distrustful of modern women, and I know most of that comes from the behavior of my mother and my own personal issues with my sister.
>>135548938
Kek, is that what your idea of emotional intelligence is?

>>135548851
I'm suggesting your biological father being adulterous trash could have certainly contributed to the way you see men, especially since much of your reasoning comes from your fear of being dependent on someone who would mistreat you like your father did to your mother.

>>135548938
> emotional intelligence : the capacity to be aware of, control, and express one's emotions, and to handle interpersonal relationships judiciously and empathetically.
I mean in the sense that women find it easier to understand and therefore comfort peers, stop with the strawman

>>135549115
>No, I think he's implying that seeing a heterosexual relationship fail miserably probably had an effect on you.
lol senpai i didn't even understand that until later. I wanted my dad to move into my backyard, I designed a cool house for him and me to hang out in so he could live with us instead of being separate. I was litterally too young at the time to understand there was tension between mom and dad.

>this is what your idea of emotional intelligence is
that is the reality of what emotional intelligence is, a buzzword to try and make the fact that you think we're inferior palatable to your own mind. Dissecting emotion and being in charge of that emotion and using that emotion properly are all traits you ascribe to men. women are not even superior mothers given single motherhood shows. theres no basis for this idea in any of your redpills, its just a fucking spoonfull of honey meant to make that big nasty red pill taste better to cucks like you.

>>135549480
>single motherhood
lack of a fatherly figure in childhood does that, i'm sure a lack of a motherly figure would do damage too.

>>135549191
both my mother and father had jobs, if my mom was dependant she wouldn't have been able to leave.

as for fear, its a natural fear because I understand how dirty and awful humans are. there is no light at the tunnel of womens rights for me, women are just like men, selfish and crass. I don't want to be beholden to men in society for the same reason as I wouldn't want to be beholden to other women if you arbitrarily split us in half and told each woman they get someone to be a slave. Its not a good situation to be in, and you can tell because for most of human history, men tried to escape it whatever way they possibly could.

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>>135549480
>I was litterally too young at the time to understand there was tension between mom and dad.
Do you honestly believe that?
Even 4 month olds can tell when there is increased stress/tension.
>its just a fucking spoonfull of honey meant to make that big nasty red pill taste better to cucks like you.
Kek, if you think women are such useless inferior beings why haven't you killed yourself?
You sound like the female version of those faggots on /r9k/, except without being a tranny.

>>135549434
>and to handle interpersonal relationships judiciously and empathetically.
>but women are sluts and sleep around and single mothers and race mixing and
these things don't line up faggot.

nor does
>muh women cant control their emotions in politics nor seperate them from action
>capacity to be aware of, control, and express emotions

these are oxymorons. you can't have it both ways, either we are capable of understanding where logic and emotion differ, and can control our emotions and make good judgements on relationship partners, or we're not good at any of it and thus aren't emotionally intelligent.

>>135549731
Before the thread closes I just want to remind you that I recommend celibacy and serious meditation and self reflection instead of lesbianism as the latter results in eternal damnation.

>>135549660
its a constant redpill that single fathers are better than single mothers. to the point where even I won't try and deny it without counter evidence.

>>135548938
Do u wanna have babby with me.

>>135549981
no point. I dont believe in god, nor do I respect him, I would earn his hypothetical respect far more by being honest than trying to lie to him to escape punishment, so sayeth the bibly

VC: maria's road

>>135545137
>How jews work the post.
saved.

>>135549804
>Kek, if you think women are such useless inferior beings why haven't you killed yourself?
because I dont think women are mentally inferior. I just expect that the people who think theyre superior shouldn't act like theyre stupider than me.

>>135550211
I never asked you to lie.

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>>135550483
to escape damnation i must accept god exists and pray for forgivness, to do either would be a lie and he would know it, the bible makes it clear, be either with him or not, do not pretend. pretenders will receive worse. I will not pretend to him

>>135549969
>misinterpreting my argument
You can clearly see that i am talking about a setting of close peers by my second paragraph.
Also i'd say because women have this intelligence they may expand upon it by moving it further and further into mainstream society as an attempt to help.

>>135550801
Don't burn bridges.

>>135551026
>close peers
the meaning of this being? i dont understand your reply, nor how saying they may use their intelligence in society while denying them the vote should work.

>>135551100
I am not burning a bridge, I am just not building one. God is welcome to build one to me, but I'm sure hes aware i'm not going to be satisfied with faith

>>135551265
>close peers
family and friends
I mean in an attempt to find solution for problems faced by society, it seems that they try to apply the common solution to problems "at home"(for lack of a better term) to the whole of society without accounting for the differences and thus consequences. I'm no psychologist but that's my two cents.

>>135551572
No understand thats what you think. what I dont understand is how you think that this demonstrates being able to control your emotions when you apply them where they don't belong