Brazil

>>135523934
Brazil is too mixed to be conservative or fascist.

>>135523934
Brazil is full of brain dead leftists, it would never happen. I hope they go full communism and all starve to death like retards

>>135523934
not to talk that Brazil has no leaders and all of their parties are either moderate leftists or radical leftists.

>>135524188
yes, maybe for your standards

>>135524282
That's kinda true, but you have to be more realistic about Brazil. We are also full of brain dead conservatives

>>135523934
explanation 1: they are corrupt as fuck, plenty of witness and proof, 9 million confiscated in a total of 27 million payed as bribe for "lectures".

explanation 2: there's a huge, silent and well planned coup, made by the CIA that produced millions of false money, and dozens of fake witnesses.

socialists believe the second. why? because socialism is the most bizarre religion ever invented.

>>135524771
only morotards belive explanation 1. Explanation 2 is just bullshit you invented

>>135524959
Oh, please, enlighten me on 2.

and please, explain where the money came from, Being paid 27 million for some lectures seems like he's the most well paid speaker of all times.

Fuck off petista

>>135525316
27 million? This number you said is exaggerated, where did you find it?

Lula wealth is 9 million. He did 72 lectures (all legal) to a variety of people who could afford it. It's absolutely OK to get rich by legal work.

And besides that, he was being judged on the Triplex case, that wasn't even in his name, never was, never LIVED there.

If he were to be judged by illegal enrichment (not Triplex), he would already be in jail, don't you think?

>>135525488
Morofucks go beat pans and walk around with CBF t-shirts

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>>135523934

Globo is leftism and degeneracy only. Why you are complaining, they are 100% Gramsci.

Lula da Silva received all the benefits of Plano Real and a stabilized economy. Foreigners throw money in Brazil no questions asked, even a layer like Eike Batista received enormous amounts of money. Plus God/China gave Lula a rally in commodities. Never ever Brazil had gain so much money in so little time.

And what this retarded Lula and psycho Dilma Rousseff did? They ruin everything.

And did it so fast, that idiots like you can't keep lying even to yourselves.

>>135525845
yeah, because the proofs aren't open and you can't check this number, so I am making it up.
http://politica.estadao.com.br/blogs/fausto-macedo/lava-jato-analisa-movimento-de-r-52-milhoes-de-empresa-de-palestras-de-lula/

The triplex case is the first one (and for christ sake, READ motherfucker), the sentence had all the proof, the text messages, the phone calls, yeah, they were preparing the apartment for him.

don't be alarmed, a lot more years will be added to that fucker, I am counting on at least 30 years in jail. you guys forced us into a military regime 40 years ago, now you guys with this histeria and stupidity will force bolsonaro into the presidency. please, fuck off and die. thanks.

>>135523934
>The last years have seen a coup and a crescent dumbservative wave.
not at all, last 15 years we have a socialist oriented government that fucked the country with gimmethats. That would include : "free" cash for people, "free" housing, "free" money for theirs chosen private sector friends. And a mindset that goes like this " if i steal money for the party then its ok." So we had a kleptocracy in place. PT (lulas party) stole money, and paid the opposition, also made a opposing party member as their VP(our current president was Dilma´s VP). The problem happend when it came to public Dilma broke the state doing illegal loans to fund gimmethats. But the rabbit hole goes dipper. There was a huge scheme in place passing through all the sectors of society. We have more than 300 politicians under investigation. So right now the real problem is not about who is left or right. Its about : how do we change the politics of a country if the very people that is fucking it is making the laws and funding the corruption even in the highest levels of brazilian justice system. Our Justice ministers are mostly bought and everytime they have to, they will side by our current president. So its not about left and right right now, the polarization is indeed present in the social media, but really it should not be the focus right now.

>>135526104
>Globo is leftism and degeneracy only. Why you are complaining, they are 100% Gramsci.
well i watch Globonews 24/7 its cultural marxism in a global scale. We can see here how the American left ideas is probably funding a leftist agenda in brazil. There is not a single day they dont talk shit about Trump and talk about wage gap and minorities issues.

>>135526245
Oh sure, the sentence. You are claiming you know all these things, but you just heard it on Jornal Nacional. Fuck off.

>>135526760
ok lets assume you are not larping. and you are indeed a gommie.
explain to me this :
-1 why do you belive that using the state to fund the minorities will make brazil a better place.
-2 how do you think a gommie organization in brazil would lead to something different from what is venezuela now?
- tell me where in south america gommie ideas are working ? prove it to me with data.
- Tell me how is a socialist state will get their money from if they despise the private sector, the same sector that brings money to the table and creates jobs.

>>135526760
god damn it, why socialists are so lazy and never read anything? the sentence is public dumb ass, you can download and read anytime you want.

>>135527068
Dude, PT would never have such power to install real socialism in Brazil, for God sake!!

They would have to have the military support. That is just not the case in Brazil!!

damn it

>>135527330
Oh really? OK smart ass, let me read it like you supposedly did

>>135527422
still waiting for awnsers. you see, thats why gommies are portrayed as unneducated dummies. just respond the questions so we can have a conversation.

>>135527422
and thanks god they didnt have the military on their side. otherwise we would be fucked maduro style.

>>135527764
To be honest, I'm more prone to anarcho-syndicalism (not socialism). Still prefer Lula to Temer or FHC.

1. In the first place, I had to be an economist to have a good opinion on this. As I'm not, I just don't know and maybe you don't too. Notice that this is not related to this thread subject.

2. Check >>135527422

And also: check the numbers of economy on Lula government and consider that he had a group of ministers and talented/experienced people working along with him. It's not like PT deliberated everything that came to it's mind. It's not Venezuela, where Maduro just do his will. You got it?

>nigger majority nation
>average IQ of 87
>he's bitching about petty political views
LMAOing at your life.

>>135528894
>he's bitching about petty political views
nope. Just being political :)

The other points you made are true though

>>135523934
Stay calm, this country has no hope other than self destruction, majority nigger country doomed by leftists, great famine is coming, the only hope for the ones here that still have 99%+ european DNA is to come back to the homeland and fight for something that isn't lost yet

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>>135529467
Oh, sure! You said it

>>135528527
>im an anarcho myself. but a anarcho capitalist. Anarcho-syndicalists cant see the bigger picture on the economy. The person that is giving you a job is doing you more good than harm. Take for instance the 14 million brazilians unnemployed. And think about the possibility of changing the employement system. Lets say you make it easyer to employ people lets say : the first job of a person will not follow any rules, how many of those unemployed would get a job and learn something in the process? Im not saying the people that own companies are the good people, they have their interests and they would obviously buy slaves if they could, but the big picture here is that : if a person does not own enough to buy shit everyone is fucked. So paying people is on the employer ineterest, otherwise they would go eventually broke. If you go on strike or something similar and break machines you are not only fucking your job bot the possibility of growth of that company fucking the possibility of creation of new jobs.

>1. In the first place, I had to be an economist to have a good opinion on this. As I'm not, I just don't know and maybe you don't too. Notice that this is not related to this thread subject.

you dont have to be a scientist to emit oppinions, the oppinions can be tested compaired and if they are not good enough they die. dont be afraid to emit them being ridicularized is normal here, thats why we are anonymous.
>You know that lula and dilma helped Maduro get ellected dont you ? case you dont, you should pay more attention to the news. here lemme help you :
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-corruption-venezuela-idUSKBN1880AT

lemme breakdown if you dont want to read it :
"Both Santana and Moura stated in their plea bargain depositions that Lula and Rousseff knew illegal funds were being used in the campaigns the couple worked on and that they were being paid in dollars deposited in offshore accounts. "

>>135528527
they got enough power and cash to buy every opposition. Those who were smart enough jumped out of the PT boat like Marina and the PSol guys. They got the money from construction companies bribes for future contracts and political help, i must say here that not only PT received money PSDB PP AND PMDB also got money. But the control was being held by PT. Now it shifted and PMDB has the controll. Right now their main job is to keep themselves out of lavajato aim. And try to save PMDB and they are failing miserably since Temer has 5% aproval ratings.