One thing that always annoys me about the Holocaust is, that

>>135510058
>Allies coming hard at Normandy
>barely ~10% of axis casualties
>thinking they won the war

USA barely did anything in WW2. Except of supplying both sides. Fucking jewmericans.

>>135510176
I think you might have answered the wrong thread, but thanks for bumping

>>135510058
I don't think anyone denies that mass murder was happening at the hands of the Nazis. It's the scale and methods that are debated. Also I think Himmler had his own vision of mass ethnic cleansing by his SS to which Hitler turned a blind eye.

>>135510058
just watch the greatest story never told. come back to this thread in 7 hours.

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>>135510256
>I don't think anyone denies that mass murder was happening

But because of pictures like these I get the feeling that some people are trying to debunk it? If that's not the case then redpill me on Hitler please

>>135510368
I've already watched it, that's why I think Hitler was a really nice guy (for this time). Also hate Churchill now. But did they even mention the KZ?

The holocaust most definitely happened. Its just that the number of deaths has been inflated. Not that it matters really. Its been 80 years and its history by now, it should not play any role in making policy and certainly its not a valid point in any argument regarding jews/israel/whatever.

Its history

>>135510388
I don't think they used the camps for extermination. The mass murder was basically rounding up the 50 Jews in some village, making them dig a long ditch, then lining them all up in front of it and shooting them all in the head. Then forcing some other town folk to bury them. Most of this was in eastern Europe. They were far more indiscriminate and brutal in the east.

>>135510505
Same opinion, but I'm more concerned about the arguments with liberals, talking about Hitler. I always try to see him as a strong leader, who literally dindu nuffin wrong, and the *only* arguments the liberals have is "Well he killed 6 million Jews so he's a mass murderer/Worst man in history"

>>135510613
Source??

There is a mountain of fabricated lies accompanied by fabricated images. I was discussing the hoax with a female friend and I was trying to tell her why I didn't believe in most of what jews like Hillberg claim. I used the burning pits at Auschwitz as an example of something that never happened. This one got her to "call me out" cause she had seen the pictures herself. I said lol ok I wanna see them as well and she told me in a demeaning manner that I could simply google it myself. So I did. Try googling Auschwitz burning pits and you will see some shitty old pictures of some bodies being burned. Of course she doesn't understand that the pics you see on google does not confirm or even adress the same burning pits described in hillbergs collection of lies. The burning pit wasn't 4 meters deep. There wasn't a train system that dumped bodies into the pit. It was a picture of some bodies being burned.... people are retards.

>>135510713
I don't have a direct source. This is just based on clips and pictures I have seen and some accounts I have heard. My grandparents were officers in the Soviet army, so they got to see some shit in Ukraine.

>>135510652
He was a mass murderer. So was Stalin, Karl der Große, Napoleon etc. etc. Hitler most certainly was a brilliant politician and public speaker, and he did good things for Germany. But he was a terrible commander-in-chief and strategist. But that has been the german armies problem since 1871 - brilliant tacticians and officers, but no strategic vision.

>>135510505
It's not just that the numbers were greatly exaggerated. There were no human gas chambers in the camps, and the Nazi government never had a policy of racial genocide against jews. All of that was and still is just propaganda.

>History should be forgotten
The very creation of the state of israel and the displacement of the Palestinian people, and the entire racial culture of the US and Europe today is based on an event that did not actually happen. Germans have been conditioned to wish for their own racial and national suicide because of events that did not occur.

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>>135510176
Fuck off and pay denbts. Germans made you their bitch during WW2 and they're still doing it now.

>>135510058
well your first problem is taking holocaust denial literally, no one denies the systematic killing of Jews, all we deny (or rather question) is:
>the scale at which it happened
I.e muh six gorillion
>the methods by which it happened
Gas Chambers at aushwitz? Nah mate.
Swimming pool which was actually just a cleverly disguised firefighting reservoir occasionally used for brutal mass drownings? Probably not.
Skin lampshades and fine mattresses made from Jewess hair? Sounds unlikely.
>the mastermind
There is literally no evidence Hitler masterminded the holocaust which is why they had to come up with the "orders passed on through spoken word" theory. There is however considerable evidence to suggest Himmler was the mastermind and kept it secret from uncle Adolf.

If you haven't already (I'm sure you have) read/watch David Irving.

>>135510888
I never said history should be forgotten. I studied history and I am german. I know of the whole german guilt and its annoying is fuck.

What i tried to convey is that the holocaust is history and not politics. It should not have any bearing on policies and foreign policy in general. It should not guide any decision making at all. Its simply nothing that matters in todays world, or at least it shouldn't.

>>135510961
>David Irving

>B-but he was tried and convicted for a bunch of trumped up, bogus, sensationalized charges in a fair and unbaised European court! That means you should ignore everything the man ever said about the holocaust.

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>>135510955
Nah, they made themselves a bitch.
We're just looking out for them. How can you have a prospering state if your politicians and officers are corrupt?

>>135510856
>he was a terrible commander-in-chief and strategist
That's where you're wrong kiddo, come back when you read/watched some David Irving.

>>135511048
>Its simply nothing that matters in todays world

Israel has extorted billions upon billions upon billions of Euros from the German people as reparations for events that did not actually occur.

Show them the findings of this french professor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuH-8w1Y5w

Faurisson was sued by the jewish community and brought to court, but he won, unlike what happened with Irving or Zündel. So he would be a much better source to redpill normies.

>>135511288
Thanks, saved. The chosen people are free to say whatever they want, while we get convicted as criminals. David Cole is another jew who exposed this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs

>>135511288

Wait what did happen Ernst Zundel?

To my understanding it was also mostly SS units going around rounding up Jews and executing them rather than the wermacht who typically dealt with enemy combatants and partisans.

>>135511262
Well you convienently left out the
>should not matter
of my sentence dude.

>>135511246
Buddy, he made terrible strategic decisions. He got lucky with France but thats it

>>135510176
Axis victory at Normandy, wouldn't of changed the war anyway at that point.

>>135510058
How can you have a good source that something DIDN'T happen?

>>135510856
>He was a mass murderer. So was Stalin, Karl der Große, Napoleon etc. etc. Hitler most certainly was a brilliant politician and public speaker, and he did good things for Germany. But he was a terrible commander-in-chief and strategist. But that has been the german armies problem since 1871 - brilliant tacticians and officers, but no strategic vision.
Meth and cocaine will do that to you.

Germans abused meth like crazy.

I'm only a bit confused at the fact that I've never heard Jews from Konzentrationsläger that had help from.a therapist or Jews that killed themself over the mass murders they've witnessed. Because in our society today, there are so many people who consider or actually do suicide "only" because they witnessed some deaths of friends or enemies in Iraq

>>135510961
>If you haven't already, read/watch David Irving

I was about to order some of his books, does he provide good sources/arguments ? The guy that replied to you did mention not to read his works ?

>>135510058
http://www.jta.org/2017/01/31/news-opinion/united-states/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians

The numbers were inflated from the beginning. Why would I believe they aren't still?

>>135510176
>USA barely did anything in WW2.
..In Europe, they more or less single handedly took down Japan.

>>135510058
If Hitler had been warned about Normandy as the landing side, instead of Calais, and he had acted upon that. The Allies might as well have acted upon that and have chosen to invade Calais instead.
The only reasonable action he could have taken, was to go for a peace treaty in 1941-42.. When Germany was on the track to victory and the Allies was loosing.
A generous peace offer, which the allies could not except would have been the best outcome.
Obviously Hitler would probably not have taken that advice..

>>135511539
except* meant refuse..

>>135510856
>But he was a terrible commander-in-chief and strategist.
This is the biggest meme about Hitler along with the jewish slander, ballsack etc. Can you please explain to me what you mean? You're aware that the OKW existed and he didn't do anything that fucked them.

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>>135510058
How did all those millions of Jews end up in the Soviet Union if they were all gassed to death?

>>135511539
>as to go for a peace treaty in 1941-42..
Britain refused.

>>135511383
Your desperation to find some philosophical and moral loophole to make peace in yourself with this issue is just saddening. It reminds me of talking to a Christian struggling with his waning faith.

It is either true, or it isn't. It matters. There's no "convenient middle ground" for you to justify just forgetting about it and acting like it never meant anything.

>the holocaust didn't happen
Yes it did, but the actual perpetrators were Polish people.

>>135511383
Just fucking watch some David Irving videos on YouTube, i'm not going to have this argument with you.
He is indisputably the most knowledgeable ww2 Hitler historian and he makes the case much better than I could that Hitler was, in fact, a brilliant military tactician.

>>135511518

David irving is the shiznitz. He only uses first hand sources and is the only person who had interviewed most of Hitlers closest friends.

That "Himmler speech" you mentioned is purposely mistranslated. He means the extermination of jewish INFLUENCE in Germany, not the extermination of the jewish PEOPLE. There's also the argument that he means deportation (since the same word also translates to "uproot") but that one is less likely.
>captcha: Cartagena CHURCHILL

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THIS IS ALL FUCKING TOTAL BULLSHIT.
I dont know how you basement dwelling mouthbreathers live with yourselves...calling black people niggers, calling mexicans spics and now
yes even /pol/ has now reached a new all time low ...... the holocaust didnt happen, and hey as a side not "hitler was OK"
you people make me want to puke! He was a monster, a diabolical evil man
He was a sadistic murderer of the worst sort.
I cannot fathom how anyone could defend this deranged lunatic. He and his brownshirts savagely burnt my grandparents publishing firm to the ground, with the employees still inside!
My poor grandparents, Avi and Sara Sphinktorlikur were shipped to the camp Eichenwald to be gassed. They did nothing wrong, they were devoted to thier work, a small childrens modelling magazine, very popular with other jews in Berlin in 1930's. They went to the synagogue every saturday, and always gave money to jewish charities.
Only my poor aunt, Jizzabel Shikulgraaber survived, she hid in belgium, almost made it to the end of the war. One fateful day however poor little Jizzabel was playing in fields of wheat, when she saw the panzers coming. they were retreating from allied forces, though she did not know this. She hid in an outhouse near the road, and thus her fate was sealed. For as the tanks and trucks passed, many soldiers would stop to take a dump, and little Jizzabel was buried alive in nazi turds.

I never learned the fate of my poor Bubbe and Avi, but stories that surfaced of Camp Eichenwald were horrifying. It was equipped with some kind of mechanical octopuss rape machine nazis used on jews prior to gassing.

FUCKEN NAZIS

The inflated numbers and allegations of industrial murder were basically a method to punish Germany forever for starting (in the official view of the allies) 2 world wars within 50 years. And even after all of that Germany is still an economic powerhouse that's trying to take over Europe via the EU. It's sad how cucked they are now.

>>135511685
wtf I love /pol/'sha now

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>>135510058
Why did the Germans never mention the gassings in their unbreakable enigma codes?

>>135511539

Read up on Rudolph Hess and shit my friend. He sacrificed his life trying to get the peace offer known to the english public.

>>135511701
>Shoddy evidence being aggressively brandished around as ABSOLUTE, OBJECTIVE PROOF THAT EVERYTHING WE'VE EVER BEEN TOLD ABOUT JEWISH SUFFERING IS TRUE AND HOW DARE THESE OUTRAGEOUS INFIDELS QUESTION AND INSULT POOR, JEWISH SUFFERING

The usual

>>135510961
>well your first problem is taking holocaust denial literally, no one denies the systematic killing of Jews

You're pussy footing this. Go to duckduckgo (because google filters results) and search for "why holocaust never happened" or "holohoax". Enjoy the whole community of holocaust denial.

>>135511701
Also there is much evidence of the speech being faked. Even if it all happened it doesn't excuse Jews using it 80 years later to advance their own and Israel interests and shutting down any ethno-nationalist group.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches

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>>135511686
>He is indisputably the most knowledgeable ww2 Hitler historian
Bit odd since literally everyone seems to dispute that.

>>135510058
Himmler's Posen speeches is what turned me as well. I don't believe the number was 6 million and I have some doubts (but not against it either) about gas chambers, but they were most deff killing Jews in the 100.000s, maybe millions.

However, now that I see the massive destruction Jews have had on Europe, I couldn't give less of a fuck. Jews brainwashed us to not be racist. Even in 1924 when Hitler wrote Mein Kampf, he talked about how the Jews wanted to mongrelize us with niggers to lower our cultural and political level, so the Jew can dominate.

It sure as hell worked. Fuck Jews.

>>135511631
A peace treaty is never a finite size.
You can have unconditional surrendering, where the other part dictate every terms of the agreement, you can have a white peace, essentially a permanent truce without any changes. Like the one in NK and South Korea.
He should have provided them with a peace treaty, where Germany stood to have nothing or limited territorial gains. And perhaps made some concessions about militarization of Germany.

>>135510652
Btw have you tried the other angle yet? That the Jews weren't just targeted for nothing I mean.

There was the international Jews bringing in the USA against Germany in WW1, the degenracy in Weimar but most importantly them locking down most of the economy by 1933 through their ethno-nepotism and access to international capital. Something was bound to happen, although I think the Germans would have been fine with expulsion and confiscating their stuff.

These things tend to happen with Jews, pogroms are not an act of God.

>>135511518
The guy who replied to me was ironically making the typical leftist arguments against David Irving.
He is the best because he gets almost all of his information straight from the archives, he reads only the official documents themselves or talks directly to the people involved or their families.
His own story as an historian is actually quite remarkable.

>>135511877
Yep, listening to the voice and the context of the speeches it's highly questionable. Why would Himmler record a classified SS speech? Why does the voice sound so radically different from Himmler elsewhere? Either way it's really easy to debunk that speech as a non-argument.

>>135511795
I think it's even more ridiculous that your believe that they used a rape machine on jews prior to gassing them. Did they get their free ride on the holocoaster too?

You don't think the allies, especially Soviets, would lie about what they found to tarnish Germany and punish them?

>>135511915
Why would Himmler reveal the homicidal gas chambers in a speech in a town hall, which was being recorded, when the German's never even mentioned it in their unbreakable coded messages and were always supposed to euphemisms (according to mainstream history)?

>>135511795
beautiful pasta, hope it goes on for awhile
>>135512004
you'll need to go back

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>>135511920
It doesn't matter. Might makes right and the total war was lost. Only a revanche is left.

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>>135510058
>One thing that always annoys me about the Holocaust is, that every time I try to talk someone irl about the things that might debunk the Holocaust, they find a really good argument against it with a source. While almost no one here can give any good arguments or sources to them.

Found the shill. This thread pops up several times every single day with tons of sources, yet you are somehow too stupid to pay attention?

Obvious shill is obvious. Saged, reported and hidden.

>>135511909
But only so after he wrote a book challenging the allied narrative of WWII, "coincidentally." Prior to that, he was universally regarded as the singlemost leading WWII historian in Europe.

>>135512004
How did you know? They were forced to ride the holocoaster. You were probably there, as a gaurd. Who the fuck are you? your a fuckin war criminal.

We are going to find you. You will pay. You probably have the lampshade they turned my poor Bubbe into, you FUCKING NAZI BASTARDDDDDDD!!!!!

>>135511909
Even in the court room in which they (((proved))) he was a " falsifier of history" they had to admit that his knowledge of ww2 was unparalleled.

>>135512227
Lol

>>135511607
Also considering the forces arrayed against Germany, they had to do everything perfect evry time or lose. Take Barbarossa for example, yes in the end they suffered huge casualties but they wrecked the Red Army 3 times over and occupied their best farming and industrial land and huge population centers. If it weren't for lend lease the Soviets would've been out.

>>135511701
>>135511877
This as well as Himmler was known to exaggerate and speak in hyperbole

>>135511873
No one who was bothered to seriously look into it.

>>135511539
>they more or less single handedly took down Japan.

>Drop the bombs out of feer that Soviets, after blitzkrieging the kwantung army, will take the islands for themselves.

>>135511844
He flew to the UK when Germany was in the process of loosing the war..
And to make what? a peace treaty where Germany stood to gain land?

To emphasize the nature of peace treaties.
When the US dropped two atomic bombs upon Japan, they had eradicated the Japanesse fleet and had total air superiority. Japan had been pushed back and had been confined to the island of Japan.
Why didnt they surrender? because the terms of surrendering where absolute. The Americans wanted an unconditional surrendering, where they could do what they wanted, install democracy, execute whomever they wanted for war crimes, force Japan to cede territories.
The US finally agreed to partial-unconditional surrendering. Meaning that no member of the royal family could be charged with war-crimes, and the emperor would remain emperor in a ceremoniel capacity.
Btw, a large portion of the general, and those we know commited war crimes where royal family members, cousins and uncles to the emperor. They was never prosecuted.

>>135511988

Also he actually speaks German iirc, most 'historians' these days don't and rely on secondary sources.

>>135512320
If it comes down to one speech to prove the holocaust, a speech that doesn't even mention gassings, then there is not much evidence that it happened.

>>135512443
Nope. Holocaust is a complete fake. There was no "systematic killing" of anyone at the camps.

>>135510058
>Try to redpill me

look for the free ebook "dissecting the holocaust" and read that. There is enough to show you that so much stuff they claim is not possible. No matter what sources are cited and where they are coming from, once you literally have to break the laws of physics to achieve the official story, it does not matter anymore if there are official documents are not.

I wouldn't bother with most other stuff people write, the holocaust handbooks say it all.

>>135512454
USA did handle their entire navy and fought brutal island jungle warfare though.

Were Soviets doing any offensives on Japan at the time?

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/01/23/the-german-jewish-kulturkampf-in-the-weimar-republic/

This is also great. When you break it down, pogroms happen as a general counter reaction to Jews doing their thing, being extremely ethnocentric and nepotistic. There's also another culture clash of European vs Middle Eastern.

So yeah, the camps definitely happened, it was the cold hard logical result of a hostile minority trying to play economic and cultural elite. And of course, people died.

But the 6 million? Gas chambers of Zyklon B when they had tons of WW1 gas left over and hundreds if not thousands of other ways to kill stuff? Colour me skeptical.

>>135511518
Irving is a second hand source.

A first hand source would be the nazi documents which David has actually read.

Most opinions on the holohoax come from 3rd hand sources (someone writing about something which someone else wrote about). When they're not blatantly made up that is.

Never forget the holocoaster.

>>135510652
>I always try to see him as a strong leader, who literally dindu nuffin wrong, and the *only* arguments the liberals have is "Well he killed 6 million Jews so he's a mass murderer/Worst man in history"

How about gambling with the strenght of the German army until he got the country he was elected to protect ruined, occupied and divided?

>>135511920
>>135511920
>He should have provided them with a peace treaty, where Germany stood to have nothing or limited territorial gains.

That was part of the offerings. Nazi Germany literally goes back to old borders, i.e. giving back poland, france, norway, denmark etc in 1940 and maybe keeping the corridor to east prussia, that's it. If such an offer is denied, than you know that you have to fight till the end.

>And perhaps made some concessions about militarization of Germany.
Yeah, that was tried from 1920-1935, i.e. the allies also demilitarize, what they signed for in the treaty of versailles. They never did and thus, in 1935, Hitler said "fuck it, we must re-arm too".

>>135511539
>single handedly took down Japan.
They threw a nuke on civilianz. Twice.

>>135510058
I think that the general consensus on /pol/ is that the massive deaths of Jews did happen, which is easily provable by comparing jewish population in central Europe before WW2 to what it is nowadays.
However, the numbers overall are exagerrated. This is supported by the claim that it would be extremely hard to exterminate 6 billion of people and Jews tend to overexaggerate their suffering and have been often caught doing so.
Many of those who died, died from diseases or hunger so it's hard to tell whether there was malicious/genocidal intent behind these deaths.
There was a shitton of shitskins and Jews collaborating with the nazis.
And the whole narration of making soap out of Jews is pure bullshit to make the story even more dramatic.
So it's not that deaths didn't happen it's just that the current narration of blue-eyes nahzees killing 6 gorrilion of poor innocent jewish beings is bullshit. It's just a story made up to manipulate the whites and make money from Holocaust Industry™.

>>135511963
I did infact think of that alot, but in my eyes it was just false to kill them all. He should've expelled them from German land or Europe in general.

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>>135512215
I hate those Mouse eyes. My myself look part jewish, but those little black eyes are disgusting.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/01/23/the-german-jewish-kulturkampf-in-the-weimar-republic/

This is also great. When you break it down, pogroms happen as a general counter reaction to Jews doing their thing, being extremely ethnocentric and nepotistic. There's also another culture clash of European vs Middle Eastern.

So yeah, the camps definitely happened, it was the cold hard logical result of a hostile minority trying to play economic and cultural elite. And of course, people died.

But the 6 million? Gas chambers of Zyklon B when they had tons of WW1 gas left over and hundreds if not thousands of other ways to kill stuff? Colour me skeptical.

>>135512616

They annihilated the Kwantung army in rapid order and captured Manchuria which was an important backbone of Japanese industry in Operation August Storm. It was probably just as important in getting the Japanese to give up as t he A-bombs.

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>>135511404
>wouldn't of

>>135512503
There were systematic killings but if they occurred at any camps I honestly don't know. The Reinhardt camps are usually the ones that fall under suspicion but there's very little evidence about those as they were destroyed completely.

>>135512787
My dear child, you have much to learn.

>>135512792
>He should've expelled them from German land or Europe in general.

>Havaara Agreement
>Evian Conference
>Madagascar plan

When the allies remove any possiblity to get the people out of your country, and when every country refuses to take in Jewish refugees even before the war starts, then there is not much you can do... there literally was no place to go because everybody said "fuck you, we won't take any jews".

>>135511288
> Content not available in your country domain
I fucking hate these fucking jewish tricks, i have to go through a proxy just to watch something educational about ww2. Disgusting.

>>135512503
>Holocaust is a complete fake. There was no "systematic killing" of anyone at the camps.
First argument why the holocaust was real. Motive, Germany had tied a massive amount of manpower in guarding the camps. They perceived the Jews and the others interned in the camps, such as resistant-movement and communist, as their enemies. They had million of enemies in these camps, whom they only kept alive for humanitarian reasons.
As their war-fortune changed, they wanted to get rid of these people.. to free up manpower and to limit the threat these people possessed.

Hitler was a subhuman, like any other fucking Kraut.

>>135512915
>they happened but i don't know how or where
0/10 made me reply

>>135512215
Nigger, I'm not a shill. Not everyone on here wants to destroy your little base.

Ever thought about someone THINKING critical? And asking questions? I'm not here 24/7 so I don't see most of these threads. And to answer my OWN questions, I had to start my OWN thread. Why would a fucking shill say that Hitler was a good guy? That he's going to buy some David Irving books. Not everything in your pathetic life is a conspiracy or whatever. I'm just trying to get my facts straight on a very taboo-ish argument

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>>135512004
>Kikecoaster

Haha! I pissed myself laughing the first time I heard about that. They haven't found any remains of the rails, the car, or the oven, but it's taken as true just because the "witnesses" said so. So much for burden of proof.

>>135512792
That was the plan. They had numerous offerings to expel them for a ransom and confiscation of their goods, however that always fell through. In the end they settled for camps which of course lead to a death count, but mostly due to starvation. Gas chambers are just impractical and almost cartoonishly evil, totally doesn't fit the Prussian model.

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>>135511246
>That's where you're wrong kiddo, come back when you read/watched some David Irving.

Brilliant

>>135510176
Pay denbts you euronigger

>>135512941

Why not just stop feeding them?

>>135512941
This totally sounds like a logical plan because we all know how cheap it is to dispose of corpses or even kill them through any method save starvation. If this was the case then they would have just gulag'd them rather than using Gas Chambers™. And all the coal coke required to burn those corpses? Soundly debunked.

>>135513002

You need to understand the expression "lurk moar".

>>135510058
the problem is that the whole subject have been used heavily as propaganda from 45 to now. And as such a large potion of the "history" and "facts" on the subject have a certain spin.
You will not find many good sources confirming the Holocaust or denying it. That is the main problem and the reason so many people either doubt the scope or that it happened at all.
One thing is clear though and that is that mass murder on jews were ordered and set in effect from the highest level of the German nazi government. Whether or not 5-6 million jews were gassed or that is a bloated number or the method is off is quite hard to nail down completely.

>>135512941
>whom they only kept alive for humanitarian reasons.

And there your argument already breaks down. Many of these people were used for slave labour and were actually very much needed for the war effort. It wasn't humanitarian reasons, wtf. Killing them wouldn't have made sense, you don't kill people that have learned their skills over a few months of work who have high productivity.

holocaust hits the "triangle" really hard. the triangle is:

extraordinary claims without extraordinary evidence

being told something that has huge benefits for the teller, and no benefits for anyone else

if you dispute it, you will be punished

where is the proof that the holocaust actually happened? and by that i mean: actual orders to do it, actual photoproof that isn't from the soviet fuckin' union, confessions that weren't by torture, etc. etc.

there's nothing actually convincing to say that it ever happened the way jews say it did. furthermore, all of the shit that they've managed to ram down our throats because of it is totally unjustifiable EVEN IF uncle morty was actually turned into a lampshade or his blood set on fire or he was masturbated to death or whatever ridiculous shit made up by a bunch of poorly educated shysters.

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>>135513098

>>135513153
Technically speaking it wasn't slavery, they were paid in tokens for their work which they could spend on camp luxuries. So it was forced labor but not slavery.

>>135510058
>Millions of (((prisoners)))
>Losing the war
>Give medicine and food to prisoners or troops?
>Allies constantly bombing supply lines
>Prisoners die first

>>135513126
Second argument why the holocaust was real
Millions of people died in the camps, whether it was Typhus, starvation, gas-chambers, a combination or any other reason. The act of internment killed millions of people, they must have been aware of the high death-toll in these camps. Still they carried on.. they killed millions of Jews because of their ethnicity, deliberately.

>holocaust
>legitimate sources
Umm sweetie

>>135512973
Nope you speficially said in death camps and I can't say for sure about the camps because I don't know enough or maybe there isn't enough to know.

But they were systematically killed via machine guns n pits, David will give you evidence or that.

>be auschwitz commander Höss
>get captured, tortured and family threatened for testimony
>sign testimony in english, a language I don't even know, saying 3-4 million people were killed in auschwitz
>get hanged

>2017
>official auschwitz death toll is 1.1 million
>Höss testimony is obviously complete bullshit
>people don't care about the consequences of this, meaning lots of other confessions are bullshit, too.

>>135513344
>millions
Umm try a few hundred thousand, hun

>>135511612
How come Syrians are dying in war if they are ALL going to Europe?

>>135513344
That's not really even an argument at all. Where are the corpses? Burnt you say? How the fuck did they burn that many corpses so quickly? Where did they get all the fucking coal coke? Total non-argument. Try harder for me sweetie.

>>135513197
not prisoners who lost the war in fear of their lives claiming they used slingshot railcars to make it more efficient to get jews in the gas chamber instead of marching them at gun-point / bayonet-point

>Hitler didnt know
He fucking approved the idea

>>135513344
>they killed millions of Jews because of their ethnicity, deliberately.
Well time to open the champagne.

It was punishable by death to deliberately harm the well being of the nation by doing shit like usury etc, which the kikes definitely did. Many of them did deserve death. They knew the laws

>>135513134
Why "lurk moar" in threads that most of the time just have shills themself that are trying to redpill newfags with pictures (mostly without sources) when I can start my own thread? Are you so butthurt that I've started a thread about this? Go to /gif/ and fap to trap porn, but let my active thread stay in peace

>>135513380
I said "at the camps". I didn't mention any death camps because there were no death camps.
Also David Irving today is just bending to whatever his kike lawyers want him to tell the public. He's a sad shadow of his former self.

>>135513380
i'm sure. people plotting to escape and or overrun the prison were machine gunned to prove the point, they were at war bro

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>>135513340
Fucking this, I've been saying this in lots of threads but it ALWAYS keeps on getting ignored.

>>135510058
Ask him for proof that it's Himmler. He won't be able to provide anything. Additionally, even if it were Himmler, him saying something doesn't mean that something is happening.

>I'm convinced that the Holocaust happened, so I guess: Try to redpill me

It's your (collective) job to prove it did, not our job to prove it didn't.

>>135510713

https://www.google.com/search?q=Men+of+chaos&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgecToyi3w8sc9YSmbSWtOXmM04-IKzsgvd80rySypFNLgYoOy5Lj4pLj0c_UNkg0rzbINNRikeLiQ-DwAE5PwREoAAAA&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2tv-rgLHVAhWKNT4KHQ7xC7IQ6RMIfDAL&biw=1680&bih=944

>>135513614
>https://www.google.com/search?q=Men+of+chaos&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgecToyi3w8sc9YSmbSWtOXmM04-IKzsgvd80rySypFNLgYoOy5Lj4pLj0c_UNkg0rzbINNRikeLiQ-DwAE5PwREoAAAA&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2tv-rgLHVAhWKNT4KHQ7xC7IQ6RMIfDAL&biw=1680&bih=944


Men of chaos
Book by Hermann Rauschning

It's the same shit in every thread about this topic.
Whenever a wannabe JIDF appears, they flake out after couple follow up questions and that's it. We're no smarter since the questions are still up in the air and the ones they "answered" usually created a whole orphanage of other issues in the narrative.
A pointless thing to discuss on /pol/.

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>>135510058

Debunk these, shill.

>>135513752
inb4 that incredibly shitty unsourced "debunking"

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>>135510058

>>135513591
me too
the real truth is always ignored
americans caused the holocaust in defeating the germans.
like another anon said, the easiest and cheapest way to kill them would be not to feed and water them.
but you can't refute the obvious truth, so instead they ignore it.

>>135513514
Kikes did have legitimate gripes about the camps though. They weren't five star hotels, and you have to take into account the fact that the media treated hitler worse than they treat trump. Imagine if trump sent all the spics to camps for purpose of simple deportation. It doesn't matter that trump would treat them very fairly; they would still think it's a burritocaust, ese
As for the gripes from the kikes when they were in camps, it is stuff atteibuted to themselves. The Germans left them in charge of themselves for the most part, and kikes can't run things very well. Unfortunately we will never know the details because any case of "one time the kike who was in charge of food neglected his duties and we didn't eat very much for like a day and a half" turns into "dose natsees starved us on purpose". And "as we were walking towards the showers I was scared" turns into "I could hear the screams of children being gassed from a mile away"

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Zyklon B isn't even toxic. I released in my house 10 times what they supposedly released in the gas chambers and i feel awesome.

>>135510058
This picture triggered me slightly. D-Day wasn't the game changer, it was another nail in the coffin. What Hitler should have done in 40/41 was attacking the Brits in the mediterranean theater of war, attack Egypt and Palestine alongside his Italian and french allies (not just supporting them more or less).

The blunder was attacking the SU instead ...

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>>135513431
>Where did they get all the fucking coal coke?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion
From the Wikipedia page.
>The "wick effect" hypothesis suggests that a small external flame source, such as a burning cigarette, chars the clothing of the victim at a location, splitting the skin and releasing subcutaneous fat, which is in turn absorbed into the burned clothing, acting as a wick. This combustion can continue for as long as the fuel is available. This hypothesis has been successfully tested with animal tissue (pig) and is consistent with evidence recovered from cases of human combustion.[16][17] The human body typically has enough stored energy in fat and other chemical stores to fully combust the body; even lean people have several pounds of fat in their tissues. This fat, once heated by the burning clothing, wicks into the clothing much as candle wax (which typically was originally made of animal fat) wicks into a lit candle wick to provide the fuel needed to keep the wick burning.[18] The protein in the body also burns, but provides less energy than fat, with the water in the body being the main impediment to combustion. However, slow combustion, lasting hours, gives the water time to evaporate slowly. In an enclosed area, such as a house, this moisture will recondense nearby, such as on windows.[citation needed] Note that feet often have the least fat, so don't typically burn. (Hands also have little fat, but may burn if on the abdomen, which provides all the needed fat.)

Humans possess enough chemical energy to burn themselves.. Similar to how whale oil has been used in lamps, then we too contain fat deposits, even in lean individuals.
There are no requirement for any significant external energy.

Theres literally no proof that 6 million died. Its an inflated number that people just take as a given like all the other jewish lies and subversion.

>>135513594
That's a good argument! Thanks.
That's true, I think I was just asking for people to argue under this thread if it happened or not. All I know is from school.

>>135513977
Go ahead and try to use SHC to fucking reduce an entire body to ashes faggot. Have fun with those bones. Hell, have fun reducing it to anything less than a charred corpse.

>>135510058
I was thinking about doing research on my own about this but in my country you just can't because of the social consequences. How is it in Austria?

>>135512751
Japan took a nuke on civilians and still refused to surrender.

>>135510955
Germany also """borrowed""" a whole lot of money from them during WW2 that they have yet to pay back.

>>135513514
Maybe so, maybe David has given up the fight, he could only hold out for so long. But he has given several sources for mass killing by the ss since long ago when he was still a fighter and I believe him.

>>135513553
No I'm talking about train loads of Jews shot with the Finnish svt40 knock-offs and dumped in a mass grave in the forest somewhere.
Not six million! But a considerable ammount none the less.

>>135511138
Thats why we should cite Faurisson instead, since he has won all the court cases against him.

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>>135510058
>While almost no one here can give any good arguments or sources to them
Well you must be a retard then? Fuck off you jew shill, we have plenty of good arguments and sources.

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>>135510058
>Try to redpill me
It's pretty simple son.
It is logistically impossible to carry out a secret extermination campaign while fighting a war of two fronts.

It cannot be done. And that's all anyone really needs to know to understand the lie.

>>135510388
Yea, not a single Jew died, yet we still have soldiers coming out and admitting it. These pictures are bullshit half truths

>>135513977
The only problem is the Nazi crematoria were designed to operate with at first with oil, then coal, not paranormal activity.
http://tiergartenstrasse4.org/A_SHORT_HISTORY_ON_THE_USE_OF_CREMATORIA_IN_THE_CONCENTRATION_CAMPS.html

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>>135513925
Yep, leave Soviets along and wipe the Brits off the face of the earth. He should have took the 400,000 in Dunkirk captive too and negotiated peace for their return, if Mr. Churchkike didn't accept then just flatten England.

>>135514110
Pretty much the same. If you say it didn't happen or just say that you think it might not have happened, you'll go to jail for 3 years. I think it's time to get rid off that consequence.

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>>135510058
>>135514233
jew propaganda

>>135514258
No one's arguing no jews or non-jews died. No one's arguing that there were definitely no murders.

Testimony is not evidence.

>>135514258
Um sweetie, a couple hundred thousand Jews did die but it wasn't because hitler wanted them systematically exterminated

>>135514137
The nukes didn't even bother them. The only reason they surrendered is because the Soviets declared war on them and invaded Manchuria. They knew they would eventually lose to America, but they figured they could bog down out invasion enough to cause enough casualties that we would be willing to negotiate a peace agreement. Alternatively, they would have the Soviets broker a peace agreement between us.

Both plans went out the window when the Soviets broke the peace agreement a year early.

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the holocaust happened and it was beautiful

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>>135514258

O the jew is mad that more and more people don't belive the nigger loving jews propaganda.

I feel for you jew I really do.

>>135514261
It is not paranormal activity.. SHC may be paranormal, but the natural explanation for the phenomena as i have outlinned are sound.
My argument was that you do not require external energy, besides an initial flame. However the crematoria was constructed, the same principle would still apply that once a fire had been set, it can proceed without continuous input.

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>>135514596
You didn't read what I linked to, I guess?
The common narrative is that they ran out of oil, then out of coal which led to open-air cremations and mass-burials of un-cremated jews.
Also a mention of Kori the super stove which cremates a person in 14 minutes.

>>135514596
Still not powerful enough to turn 6 million jews into ashpiles within 3-4 years.

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>>135514346

Im pretty sure thisnpicture is photoshopped. Anyone got double of this?

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Whoever wants can go to 4pleb and search for holohax threads. There is this shill with an austrian flag he always makes them.

>>135510058
They broadcasted the actual numbers of dead across the German Enigma machine throughout the war. Otherwise, the brits would have reported it

>>135514743

Tell me - what does a drawer full of rings prove, other than the fact that a lot of people had their rings confiscated?

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Burning 6,000,000 corpses in only a couple of years would be a significant task.
A modern crematorium incinerator requires atleast 2 hours to burn a, averaged sized person to ash, keep in mind that the modern systems are forced air, a natural flow system (the ones you always see in pictures) would require another 50% time atleast giving you a total of atleast 3 hours required to burn a corpse. And no, you cannot just stuff in more bodies to speed up the time, infact it will either smoother the flames entirely or slow them to the point the bodies never burn but merely char on the outside. To burn a corpse properly it required plenty of space and moving air, therefore it must be one at a time

So, 6 million bodies 3 hours per body gives us 18 million man hours of incineration time.
Though there debate it's generally agreed there was only 90 ovens in operation at any given time, leaving us with 200,000 man hours required to dispose of everyone.
200,000 man hours divided by 8,760 hours per year (assuming the oven never stopped working which is impossible) gives us 22 year of required time needed to burn all the bodies.

If the holocaust was real they would have needed to burn bodies well into the early 1960's to dispose of them all.

>>135514715
>they deny the victims their dignity
>they deny to show compassion for the victims
>they deny the victims to be remembered
Correct, this is what I deny.

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>>135514346


Ahh here you go you dumb kike. See how this propaganda thing works? You've probably thought that picture was real for decades.

>>135514258
>oi vey! My grandfather survived six gassings and was eventually turned into a skin lampshade when he was just three years old why don't you believe me goy

>>135510176
This, USA came in that the tail end of 2 world wars, barely did shit all and then boasted about how they did the equivalent of a killsteal for all time

>>135510058
>I'm convinced that the Holocaust happened, so I guess: Try to redpill me
The holocaust seems unlikely from a our times perspective because now it is unthinkable treat prisoners that way. But if you really study this you will realize that everyone let their prisoners starve during and after WWII, even the allied. The holocaust was a horrible event, as was the war itself.

>>135514960
We /jew/ now

>>135514337
Well good luck with it. I think you know about the "Leuchter-Report"?

Another topic which is might worth it to have an eye on it:
"Defamation" from Yoav shamir ( antisemitism nowadays)
Or "Holocaust Industry" from norman Finkelstein.

>>135514797

I dont believe these belonged to jews, i believe they were rings givennout to SS.

>>135514392
Even if hitler did want to have a holocaust, calling that small amount of casualties beautiful is retarded. That would be the biggest failure of a holocaust.

>>135510176
The pacific theater?

>>135510058
>One thing that always annoys me about the Holocaust is, that every time I try to talk someone irl about the things that might debunk the Holocaust, they find a really good argument against it with a source.

Yeah, like lunatic 'eyewitness statements' talking about gigantic Jew barbeques and mass graves of which no trace can be found.

Get the fuck out of here.

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>>135515021
This is an iconic picture of Australian prisoners released from a Japanese prison camp. Why is it unthinkable that the Germans treated their prisoners the same way?

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>>135512215
>Saged, reported and hidden
Naa! Don't look at it that way Anon. I love these threads because normies come here too and they can see for themselves all the lies they have been told. You see jews are beyond stupid. They think they can convince people by posting stupid shit like no one is ever going to refute their fabulous proof, they are such great writer and thinkers LOL! They are complete and utter MORONS and will always BTFO of themselves just like the OP did in this thread. I was red pilled before I came to /pol/ but I learned so much more just by reading threads exactly like this. So don't get triggered over these threads. I welcome them and see them as an opportunity to redpill normies. We win this battle one mind at a time.

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>>135510058
>Vor Wissenschaftliche Arbeit

Unteralter raus

>>135515218
Because the Japanese were notorious for being inhumane? And the Germans weren't?
>inb4 the 666 gorillion
Nice circular argument there kike.
Also prisoners starving does not prove that 6 million jews were systematically mass exterminated via gas chamber. Nonargument it is.

>>135514808
Just a note, unless you've actually cremated a body and timed it, those figures (2hrs) probably includes the time it takes to heat up the oven and possibly even the cooling time.
If you are systematically cremating people you would different methods to modern commercial cremations.

The nazis might have cremated people quicker than 2 hours, the numbers still don't add up on the six million but your argument may be flawed.

>>135514596
>>135514735
Which brings us to the problem of the lack of mass-graves. When the allied inspected their half of the camps, which turned out to be internment camps, they performed over 100 autopsies in a month and the single cause of death they could find was conditions (diseases, starvation, etc.).
The numbers were also grossly blown out as admitted in 1980s, instead of 3-4m, it was in the hundreds of thousands.
Even bigger issue is that these mass graves were not only from 1944-1945 which is when they ran out of fuel, but much earlier as well. Why?
If the goal was complete eradication of everything jewish, why did they pussy out with their plan when they still had the fuel to realize it?

>>135515218

Germans abided by the Geneva convention and treated their POWs infinetely better than the Japanese.

>>135514960
The allied powers were the Jewish powers, of course they treated their prisoners like shit. And the Japanese are a bunch of subhumans so they treated their prisoners the worst. Germans treated their prisoners well because they actually wanted peace

>>135510058
Only thing you need to do is tell Hitler to not fucking bog down at Stalingrad like a retard

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>>135515218
>Why is it unthinkable that the Germans treated their prisoners the same way?

Because this is wehraboo central. Hitler was a good boy, He dindu nuffin.

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Does any eyewitness to the alleged Nazi Gas Chambers describe anything like this?

>>135510058
>>135510058
Ask yourself this: Why have all the proof of the holocaust been collected and hidden at a vault in the UN building in New York? Why has it been kept out of the public? Only now, 70 years after the event, researchers are allowed in to see it, but they are not allowed to make any copies to take outside. The US confiscated most of the documents from the third Reich, everything is classified.

>>135510058
Heinrich Himmler orchestrated death camps to fuel a mass sacrifice in order to bring in the Eons of Horus as per Aleister Crowley's prediction. He believed he was the reincarnation of the dead king Himmler and coerced Hitler into killing all of his allies so that he could take control over the party using the SS and the Thule society.

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>>135515504
Really activates mein almonds.

>>135515602
>>>/x/ is the other way my schizophrenic conspiratard friend.

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>>135513002
>THINKING critical? And asking questions
It that what you call being a retard? How is pic related for critical thinking ey?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOzVJGkIaEI

>>135515602
Cool story Bro

>>135515681
It doesn't matter if you believe it or if it's real, they believe it you bluepilled shithead. I bet you haven't read The Protocols yet.

>>135515602
As outrageous as this sounds it fits in pretty well - not least with Himmler's dubious communications with the allies and Hitler disavowing him in his final words.

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I remember being forced to read this in the 4th grade. The brainwashing is so blatant and it starts young, so its not always easy to break this conditioning

>>135515755
Why haven't you gone back? Your schizo hugbox is down to the left.

>>135515535
Provide evidence that hitler killed himself
Pro tip: you can't

>>135515602
Sounds like bs. I'm pretty sure that isn't himmlers brand of esoteric practice, faggot.

>>135510058
Jews got put in camps as enemies of the state. A few rouge crazy doctors probably did experiments on a tiny portion of them. A bunch died of disease and starvation in these camps because war. Jews say like 5 to 20 times the amount that actually died died.

>>135515857
Fuck off shill. Reveal your flag.

>>135515891
klol

>>135515826
>hitler disavowing him in his final words
Sure

>>135515866
>I'm pretty sure that isn't himmlers brand of esoteric practice
>I'm pretty sure

Based on what? It's obvious in just passing study even. Do you fuckers even do any studying or do you just make assumptions based on what popular culture has fed you? Your brains may as well be the dribble that falls from your lips.

>>135515907
Tranny

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>>135510058
>death camps explained
Starvation from cut supply lines and typhus sure are a hell of some problems

Also, if you want to show them some basic math, just show them how hard it is to cremate people.

>>135515949
>amerilard isn't able to differentiate thailand and taiwan
Typical. Now head on back to /x/ for me will ya?

>>135515934
He really did though no conspiracy.

>>135515949
>it's obvious in just passing study
"Passing study" seems to be all that you did on himmler and nazi esotericism

>>135514914
Retard. did you even read what I posted or watched the video that I linked? Fucking newfags I swear...

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>>135516003
Guess again, fruit.

>>135516092
The Hess Conspiracy.
It seems you couldn't even be bothered to do that little.

>>135510652
Is there any talk of Stalin beint a bad guy?

>>135515934
Read his final statement you goose, maybe disavow was the wrong word - denounced! He denounced him as a traitor.

>>135516216
Don't bother, these fags are big time shills. Nobody replies that fast against something without bias at stake.

>>135516204
>bunch of fags whine in the streets
>this makes the whole country gay
I guess you guys must be even gayer then since it was Obummer that kickstarted this gay marriage shit here.

>>135515218
Americans were more cruel then the germans

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The only good thing that came out of WWII was the Jews at coca-cola creating Fanta for the nazis, desu.

>>135514743
Yes I posted it, go backwards in the links here
>>135514233

Well look at that.
Again, the shills are back to talking shit or disappeared without any answers.

>>135510176
Europe would be full commie if it wasn't for America retard.

>>135510058
im not trying to debunk the holocaust
I fully support it

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>>135516413

Not entirely unexpected.

>>135516204
>the Hess conspiracy
You mean when he flew over to Scotland or wherever to try to make peace but was imprisoned? Can't find shit on any "conspiracy". At least post a basic gestalt, faggot.

>>135516216
Can't find anything legit on that either. Why not post the quote? It would be very easy

>>135516259
Not necessarily, some people aren't open minded to estoric explanations, your claims certainly are far out there!

But I happen to have read half of a book called "Hitler and the aeon of horus" many years ago so I'm more open to the idea.

How dare you! My Grandfather died in the concentration camps during the holocaust! Poor bastard fell out of his gun tower.

>>135516003
>hiding behind a meme flag because you live in a shithole

>>135516364
It was the opposite. The germans at Fanta created it because they were under embargo.

>>135513800
>Kidnap some guy
>police sieges my house
>run out of food
>guy starves

>Police killed him...

>>135514596
if SHC is so well understood and easy to set off, even almost 80 years ago, why don't modern day crematories use this phenomenon?

>>135516841
At least we're 100% asian. Can you say the same about being 100% white faggot?

>>135516863

Jews weren't kidnapped. They were told to GTFO or suffer the consequences. They chose to stay in the Reich and were put in camps as a result. If they were to stay, they should contribute to the greatness of the Reich through labor.

Labor will set you free!

>>135516789
That joke is old as Hitler himself.

>>135516581
Just google "Hitler's final statement" it's too hard to copy paste shit on phone.
How can you even consider yourself an authority on anything ww2 related if you never bothered to read Hitler's final words before he supposedly took his life in his bunker in Berlin?
That should be interesting to anyone!

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>>135516856

How ironic that only niggers and spics drink it now.

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>>135514258
>not a single Jew died
A few hundred thousand like 250 thousand more or less, mostly of typhus which is spread by fleas. Zyklon B is for killing insects like Typhus spreading fleas (not humans), unless you consider jews insects. I won't argue with you on that. So the EBIL Nazi Hitler was actually trying to save their jew lives. Of course I would never expect a kike to acknowledge the truth, you seem to be allergic to it.

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>>135510058
They should make a Penn Zero Part-time Hero episode about that.

>>135517003
Yes in America I can assure you that's not the case everywhere thank God.

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>>135516926
>still hiding behind a meme flag that celebrates white power
>is an asian in a shithole
holy shit you are a cuck

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>>135516789
top kek

>>135516433
We could have been a white empire if the US wasn't retarded and would have supported us you mixed nigger.

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>>135510058
Fuckn Sam Hyde mang

>>135517069
It's ok anon, you're free to lament about china ripping you off in trade in /ptg/ :^)

>>135510799
Your friend thinks you're a moron and she's right.

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>>135510058
>Try to redpill me

Kennedy did not know the propaganda war would go on against people of Germany after WW2 and would turn into falsifying history.

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>>135517055


Do you have these flavors as well?

>>135510058
Lots of jews were put in camps and killed

It was fucking WW2 and the 6 million by gas chambers is AN EXAGGERATED PROPAGANDA LIE. Tens of millions of non-jews were dying in other parts of the world. Jews acting like they were the only victim or even the primary one is pure bullshit.

The Germans, Russians and Japs were objectively genocided more than the jews were.

NOT FIGHTING FOR YOUR PEOPLE DOESNT MAKE YOU THE VICTIM, IT MAKES YOU A COWARD

>>135510058
>muh Normandy landing

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>>135510058
If you want a redpill, read this.

>>135511979
>>135511979
>>135511979

>>135510058
Why deny the greatest event in human history?
Whenever i talk to someone about it, i tell them why Nazis killed the Jews, and that it absolutely wasn't for no reason.
I live in a country where jews is still the most used swear word tho, so might be easier for me.

>>135511963
>Btw have you tried the other angle yet? Committing academical and social suicide?

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>>135510453
Hitler was just a man who tried his best and failed gloriously

He did not want to exterminate all jews from reality and EVEN BENJAMIN NETANYAHU ADMITS THIS

>>135517465
It would have been the greatest event if only it actually happened. Sadly enough it did not.

>>135510058

>Try to redpill me

I'd love to, but as you wrote...

>Since I'm not allowed to deny it
>I'm convinced that the Holocaust happened,

So am I...

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>>135516926
>100% asian
That includes the middle east, poos, chinks and worst koreans.

Asians are generally uglier than whites and their men are more submissive too. The Japanese truly are a unique nation on earth though and should be learned from.

>>135514743
>Every jew has the exact same kind of wedding ring

This is interesting

>>135517647
The only think of all that which we have here is chinks. You'd be hard pressed to find any other flavor of skin other than, once in a blue moon, white.
>le based japan xd
There will be no japan in 50 years but keep pushing that meme I guess.

>>135517069
>Saving that image
Kys faggot

Chinks are arrogant antslaves that suck at just about everything except exploitation of earth and other people.

>>135517521
Hmm, we only had them in Norway then?
My grandfather worked in one.

>>135510058
Hitler's integrity is highly debatable, yet it's becoming more apparent that Hitler was played for an "instant stooge".

>>135510058
Congrats! You're literally the first person on /pol/ that I've seen doesn't blindly LISTEN and BELIEVE and instead did the research. This is precisely the same experience I've had. But every time I mention it, instead of /pol/ proving me wrong somehow, it's that one autist spamming the already-debunked garbage """redpill""" infographics and killing the thread.

>>135510856
>horrible strategist and CIC
>nearly conquers all of Europe
Hmmm

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>>135517761
>triggered by images on an image board
oh vey the reddit is powerful in you

>>135511795
>Jizzabel Shikulgraaber
dude you just redeemed your PM with this quality b8. Fookon hillaryous.

>>135517723

I believe these were rings given to SS.

>>135510058
use enslavement camp or forced labour camp detail why that is much more worse than being killed also include threat of death,

that is how i redpilled my dad on tje issue but muh ma had an someone in those camps so I can't go full red pill on her.

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>>135517465
jode, jew or juden sounds like a derogatory term in any language desu lol.

>>135517943
Why did they take the picture like that? To prove there were a lot of SS?

>>135511821
Are you still growing a chub over cracking the enigma? Lol

>>135513920
Hydrogencyanide gas isn't toxic?

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>>135517740
>There will be no japan in 50 years
Heard that one before

>>135511821
Today's equivalent of "unnamed sources"

>Hey goyim we broke that unbreakable code and only we can tell you what they said. Btw Hitler was talking to Rommel about wanting to get more lampshades without zyklon burns on them

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>>135517886
>Reposting shit tier reddit rejected memes
Post better ones faggot

>>135510058
>Not telling him they cracked the enigma

>>135518248
autism

>>135518247
This

If its not a recorded audio Hitler speech, NO I DONT TRUST JEWISH ARTICLES USING JEWISH SOURCES TO PROMOTE A JEWISH AGENDA

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>>135518374
If youre not autistic gtfo /pol/

>>135518337
The Germans suspected this though and changed shit up quickly. Not sure how much the allies gained from it.

>>135518438
I mean I am autistic about other things than /x/ shit I guess

>>135510256
They were killing these people. There is no denying that. They were treating them horribly. There is no denying that.
It's the scale and severity. The numbers and the sadistic stuff that is where the issue lies.
The whole sale slaughter of the Jews did not occur until after the wassau conference in December of 1941. That was where they decided to kill the Jews instead of continuing to use them as slave labor.
So the earliest it could have started was mid 1942. There is not a enough time get rid of 6 million bodies so that they can not be found. Let alone the 5 million more non Jews that were killed.

As for the sadistic things that were done most that was not part of medical experiments were shown to be false.
I personally believe the severity, not the existence, was overblown to make the Germans look bad, especially by the Russians.

>>135512787
You forget israel exists now.

>>135515684
That's odd, a simple wooden door led to the homicidal gas chambers that killed millions of people? It seems a little out of step with the legendary german engineering, doesn't it.

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HOW COULD AUSCHWITZ HAVE GAS CHAMBERS WHEN THEY HAD A SWIMMING POOL?

>>135514930
He's just salty that his grandpa wasn't good enough for soap.

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>>135518247

Don't step on my Blue Suede Jews.

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>>135511806
>to punish Germany forever for starting (in the official view of the allies) 2 world wars within 50 years

Actually you have to go back to the Balfour declaration. Israel was promised to the jews in exchange for ruining Germany for Great Britain's sake basically. It was American jews that helped get the USA involved in that war as well. So the jews stabbed Germany in the back to get Israel in return. The reason there were so many jews in Germany is because if you were a jew in those days, Germany is the place you wanted tp be.. Very jew friendly, kinda like the USA is today. Germany treated the jews very well, look how they were repaid. They will repay the USA the same way, The same way they did to Russia too. That's going to happen in the USA because jews are scum.

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>>135518508
>He doesnt understand /x/ at all

>>135510256
>>135518525
Behold, (((America))).

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>>135510058
what pictures? most of them are photoshopped?

Your a beta if you cant stand up for what is real when reality is on your side and everyone knows it was fake.

>>135512787
This

Also why put them in a camp when you can let them jump a cliff?

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>>135518777
Best pic ever.

>>135510058
Why even bother to try and argue with people on the overexaggerated holocaust. The winner writes the history so you would'nt have any "reliable" sources to claim your arguments.

>>135510176
>Greece
>White

>>135511288

Radioislam?

>>135511821
Because there were no gassings. Zyklon B is a pesticide that was used to kill typhus spreading fleas amongst the prisoners. Hitler was trying to save them, not kill them. He only wanted them expelled out of Germany. But you already know all this ;)

>>135518525
But your statement flies in the face of about 99% of things /pol/ says about the holocaust, such as that since there were facilities on-site at the camps, that means jews were never killed systematically (if the jews were used as slave labor for a long time at the camps then that argument goes out the window). Of course what you says aligns with what we know, but it certainly doesn't align with what deniers actually say.

>>135512004

This

Fake news go way back. Just see how much influence our fake news have and we have internet. Just imagen the propaganda effects in the old days. They even had ministers of propaganda.

>>135510058
>Hitler might not have known
afaik there is not a single piece of evidence that he did know. Innocent until proven guilty.

>>135518774
>look how they were repaid.
Hitler fucked up hard. The jews were a credit to germany. They were the best generals, scientists and engineers in the country. Instead of fucking with the banks and calling it a day, hitler went crazy and fucked up. He's the reason you have to deal with multiculti garbage now. He's the reason for israel. He's the reason for the defeat of germany. Stop sucking this traitor's cock for 5 seconds and you'll realize that hitler literally did everything wrong.

>>135518898
WHY NOT JUST LOWER FOOD RATIONS AND FORCE LABOR????????????

THEY WILL SLOWLY DIE WITHOUT ANY FUCKING EFFORT

YOU CAN EVEN HAVE THEN DIG THEIR OWN MASS GRAVE AND TELL THEM ITS CONSTRUCTION

IT MAKES NO SENSE TO BUILD FUCKINGG MAGIC SUPER OVENS AND GENOCIDAL GAS CHAMBERS WHEN YOU CANT GIVE BULLETS TO YOUR SOLDIERS OR FOOD TO YOUR KIDS REEEEEEE

>>135518911
The earth isnt flat or round

Matter changes based on whats percieving it

The earth was likely flat back when LOTR timeline was happening

>>135512892
Operation august storm was on the 9th. The second a-bomb was dropped on the 9th. So that operation had little to do with surrendering.

>>135519177
How is Zyklon B being a pesticide incompatible with it being used to kill humans? Zyklon B is cyanide, it is lethal to us. It also takes much less to kill a human being than to kill a single lice, because we are warm-blooded. If anything Zyklon is a very efficient method of killing.

>>135519962
Just go eat some and see what happens

>>135517141
>Unironicly thinking that the 3th reich could exist after the war
Lol

>>135520051
http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/denial/testimony.txt
Some Zkylon-B stories. Not that it actually answers anything since the testimonies half of the time make little to no sense with more plot holes than a m night shyamalanama movie.

>>135510176
Without supplies armies fail.

>>135519360
I am trying to argue the current "facts" don't enable the numbers claimed even assuming the wassau conference happened.
I concede the methods but the methods do not enable the final result. So something does not add up.

>>135521575
There is too much properly sourced evidence to agree with you, but my point is that even your version of denialism completely destroys /pol/'s version.