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>Occasionally Until Election Night

>Election Date
Saturday, 23 September 2017
>Register to Vote
http://www.elections.org.nz/voters/enrol-check-or-update-now

>One News Colmar Brunton - 22-27 July
National - 47
Labour - 24
Greens - 15
NZ First - 11
TOP - 2
Maori - 1
ACT - 0.3
United Future - 0.1

>News
>Terrorism raids in Australia believed to relate to 'bomb plot involving aircraft'
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/95248620/terrorism-raids-in-australia-believed-to-relate-to-bomb-plot-involving-aircraft

>Shamubeel Eaqub: The politics of immigration
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/95203769/shamubeel-eaqub-the-politics-of-immigration

>Mayor unhappy with Prime Minister's response to tourist tax
https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/95220761/mayor-unhappy-with-prime-ministers-response-to-tourist-tax

>Further proof NZ doesn't exist
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/95239655/facebook-takes-down-new-zealand-parliaments-page

>Strike looms as migrant farm workers take on Australian rich-listers
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/95250818/strike-looms-as-migrant-farm-workers-take-on-australian-richlisters

>Free antivirus software available in New Zealand
https://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/95152824/free-antivirus-software-available-in-new-zealand
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>>135493390
>Greens 15%
How the fuck is that possible with that bene-fraud nigger of a leader they have?
>Also, inb4 chinks turn up telling us to vote National or ACT and not Winnie
Hometime soon lads
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>>135493723
It isn't an issue really, they peaked too early its still over a month away, so we will probably see Greens voters trickle back to Labour naturally, and Nationals vote decline towards the election as people make their minds up.
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inb4 404
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Why does ACT even exist? They've been an embarrassment since inception
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I know it's probably too late now, but I really want to see the immigration numbers slashed. The government has been pouring in hordes more people so that economic growth numbers will look good, but meanwhile nothing's been done about the housing and infrastructure problems that's caused, and the government's answer has been to call anyone a racist if they complain. What a fucking shitshow.
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>>135498770
At this rate, as long as NZF is in the government, even with National, we will probably see immigration numbers slashed.
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>>135499020
we're lucky winnie is maori, it paralyses the left so much. How much of a hidden vote do you think he has?
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Oh no i just did a poo and a new zealand fell out
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>>135499020
It really needed to be done at least 5 years ago though. Instead we've had record immigration each year for a few years now.

I sometimes wonder how many people think about the immigration problem without saying anything. I don't say anything in daily life as it would likely be career-limiting to do so. The government and media have managed to successfully make their position the only publicly 'acceptable' position.
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Does anyone in Auckland want to meet up and discuss white nationalism? I'm lonely.
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>>135499387
>How much of a hidden vote do you think he has?
Last election he basically doubled his vote, and by the opinion pieces currently they think his current 10-11% will hand him 15% above right now.

>>135499483
The issue is the economists, they sit there and argue about this stuff, half of them say immigration is good the other half say that its the worst. All we hear currently is the 'good' side of immigration which is still bad overall. Yes, they help the economy, but you can't base all your GDP growth on just bringing people in and just take a look at the news every week, our government takes countless businesses to court constantly because they are run by foreigners paying foreigners below minimum wage, we've opened the door to different cultures which don't follow our law and this is what 'they' call economic progress.
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>>135499610
GCSB pls

>>135498770
>tfw it's not gonna stop
>tfw the quarter acre dream is officially done and dusted
>tfw wages consistently low
>tfw everything else increases in price

i dunno, sometimes i just wanna an hero because nothing ever gets better, only worse
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>>135499610
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>>135500220
kek
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>Greens 15%

and here I was thinking that the average kiwi was more intelligent than the average aussie
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>>135499898
Yeah, although the housing and infrastructure issues are more tangible, the culture aspect is a big one too. The countries that many of our recent immigrants come from have cultures where cutting corners (or outright corruption) is the standard approach. At its most extreme you get outcomes like the melamine milk scandal, and by importing more of more of these cultures, the government increases the risk of some large-scale scandal like that.
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>>135500590
Greens get a lot of votes from stoners and first time voters.

This is my sisters first election and i know shes voting green.

Highly likely i'll vote Nz First as National is gonna win anyway.
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theres no auspol. FUCK
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>>135501015
Labour is at a 30 year low. Since they are partners with the Greens, who essentially advocate bennie fraud, its driving Labour voters away.
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>>135501015
At this point National can't even govern without NZF, meaning Winston will be running that government.
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There was an interesting article in the Herald a few months back, which showed that even pro-government people must know there are problems despite what they usually say publicly.

>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11832974
>Not acknowledging the impact immigration has on infrastructure and housing risks generating a larger, more aggressive, backlash.
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>We need a big structural change to put the equation back in balance for young New Zealanders.
>This Government has grudgingly in the past year or so started to acknowledge the problem.
>It thinks it is doing enough but it isn't. It is too comfortable hiding behind the mirage of wealth creation.
>It has been a convincing illusion, creating a confidence that has driven very real domestic growth.
>It may even get National through the next election, but it's not sustainable.
>The next Government, regardless of which party forms it, needs to confront housing inequality.
>Otherwise New Zealand will eventually have its own Brexit or Donald Trump-style backlash.
>That would be terrible for all of us.
>The populist rebellion of angry voters would be a harsh intervention that forces us all to go cold turkey.

It's weird to me how he identifies the cause of the problem, but then he dances around it and peppers the article with plenty of "diversity yay" to make clear how much of a not-racist he is.
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>>135501804
Its pretty disgusting desu. Also saw this today.

https://twitter.com/NZNationalParty/status/891432518578167809
>Our 2017 Party List is a strong mix of experienced talent and fresh faces, and is National’s most (((diverse))) list ever.
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>>135501804
Winston has become the slow burning backlash. Right now, the prices are tapering off in Auckland and people might be celebrating, but in reality the people overseas can read the news and know an election is about to happen. Watch what happens to house prices if National gets in again, its another 4 years of new record breaking highs as there is no threat from capital gains under National.
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>>135502111
the big banks should be backing the anti immigration side or they are going to go bust. up here in brisbane apartment houses are going to crash real soon,
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did anyone else hear that jet take off from wellington airport today? someone said it was a decommissioned russian plane that you can pay to take rides in but i feel like i would have heard of something like that before.
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>tfw can't get a job
>character assassination
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Fuck immigrants.

I got sacked for no good reason at alliance group, it is easier to hire a boonga with no idea of labor laws than employ a local.

And fuck everyone in baby boomer gen. Everyone of those cunts wants the earth for their nothing, and would rather not do a deal than see us get ahead.

Just my experience in life so far.
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>>135503115

Hey buddy I got this too in a way. Old boss won't give me reference and I was character assassinated on way out. Worked at this place 2 and a half years.

25, been on dole for a year now. Worked my ass off 12 hour days when I had the chance though.
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>>135503115
>tfw new female manager hates you and is trying to get you fired
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>>135503856
Any obvious reason for the hate, or is it just general feminism?

I keep my trap shut about political things at work. While it might feel good to stand up for what's right, it could just cause too much grief in the current climate.
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So how did you manage to increase your European population?
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We just got to wait till all the underages on 4chan turn 18, then they can vote for Winnie.

Drunko checking in.
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>>135504132
2006 was the first year that "New Zealander" was added as an option for ethnicity on the census.

Only white people are cuckold enough to choose that option in order to signal their lack of racism to imaginary diversity gods.

The shock of the result caused many to switch back.
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>>135504132
A lot of people returned after the GFC plays a factor of that.
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>>135503480
They went further than that
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Bump
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>>135506073
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>>135506298
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NOOOOOO!!! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR TURN!
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>>135506756
It probably should be, it is how it keeps NZ moving forwards without tumbling to the extremes on the left and right.
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Green supporter here. Pls no bully, I just want to have a mature discussion.

If Metiria Turei committed benefit fraud, can she still claim to be a nationalist? I don't want to have a leader that apparently shows no loyalty to her own country.

It's a stupid issue honestly, but the media has brainwashed me into caring about it.
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Also

If Labour is claiming to give every citizen $200 per week, how would that affect the economy? I'm worried that it would cause the NZ Dollar to lose value.
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>>135506910
Green wants to ban semi auto rifles. Fuck those cunts.
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>>135506910
>green supporter
>don't bully
pick one
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>>135506910
She should have paid off the debt before she used it as political ammo.
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>>135506999
Honestly, I don't see any reason why we need semi auto rifles. But I also see no reason to ban them.
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>>135506910
You weren't meant to be thinking about that. It was meant to be a promo stunt but like >>135507022 says she needed to have paid it off already, preferably years ago. At the very least she should have paid it back immediately after admitting the fraud.
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"David Seymour is A Cuckolded Political Prostitute".

Winston confirmed as /pol/'s candidate.
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>>135507116

Hobbists and Reservists what want to improve their marksmanship. I know too many people that would be negatively affected by this.
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>>135507129
I have a flatmate who is currently committing benefit fraud. He's an immigrant (NZ resident) who hates this country, so it's impossible to convince him that what he's doing is very wrong. I don't want him to get into trouble.
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>>135507184
When was he ever not?
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I'm losing hope in NZ
Most kiwis are so eager to stick it to America that they're spreading our asscheeks for chang's wang
Where is our dignity??!!
My ancestors settled NZ in the early 1800's. They would be sickened to see what NZ has become
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Your birth demographics are almost as bad as ours.
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>>135507309
He's even more so now.
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>>135507304
Do you know that 4chan records IP addresses?

Could be possible that somebody will pay him a visit soon. Just a heads up.
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>>135507359
Over 3/4 of our population is in the North Island
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>>135507304
Why would someone become an NZ resident when they hate the country? Is it because he tried to get into every other place and NZ was the only one dumb enough to let him in?
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>>135507359
Keep in mind most of those white births will be degenerate white trash
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>>135493390

Greetings favourite colony how are things
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>>135507412

Christ.

Up until last year, when I began looking into your demographics, I honestly had New Zealand as my preferred choice of destination when pic related progresses for another 10 years.
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>>135507443
His mom met a Kiwi guy on an online dating site and moved here 10 years ago to live with him

After they broke up, she went back to her home country and didn't buy a second plane ticket for her son
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>>135507560

Only the based underclass can save us now
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>>135501627
Thats good, they are flocking to NZ First. I voted Labour in 2011, didn't vote 2014. This is the year of Winston.
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>>135507506
u fukin wat mote
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>>135507560
Yeah, literally everyone assumes NZ is a little white paradise in the South Pacific because of our tourist industry propaganda
Nothing is further from the truth
NZ has highest rate of domestic violence in the OECD
NZ has highest rate of teenage suicide in the entire world
NZ is the second least white nation in the western world
NZ has the second highest child homicide rate in the western world
NZ has the highest rate of sexual violence in the OECD

The list goes on and on
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>>135507702
All polls show this is the year of the green. Sorry Sweetie
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>>135507628
White trash are fucking disgusting
The most degenerate and criminal neighbours I've had have all been white trash
White trash are so bad that I'm happy when nonwhites move into the neighbourhood after white trash get chucked in prison

The only way to save the white race is to breed middle class white babies
Lower class whites are the worst scum in existence
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>>135506910
Grow up kiddo, the Greens are a wasted vote.

>>135506985
Thats Gareth Morgans TOP, not Labour.
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>>135507811
The issue is that Winston always gets a jump in the polls regardless, and that the Greens peaked too early, we've still got ages to the election and that momentum will drain away.
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>>135507811
>He believes in the polls
All it takes to be Winnies year is to be Kingmaker
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A Maori guy followed me home last night, ranted about how he just got out of prison and how I was the first nice white he'd met.
He wouldn't leave me alone and kept asking for my phone number. This is the second time this has happened lately and it's turning me a little bit racist.
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>>135508242
Always Remember, Anything Is Possible
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>>135504349

I remember one of my primary teachers virtue signalling about that for almost an hour
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>>135493390

So I've just heard some vague things from various monarchist groups about New Zealand but something to do with the National Party supporting republicanism? Is that true? Are they pushing for a referendum or something? And if so why is the '''''right-wing''''' party in New Zealand so insistent on trying to destroy your history and culture.
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>>135506910
Metiria is a self-declared anarchist. I don't think it's possible to be both that and a nationalist.
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>>135508280
There are 2 kinds of Maoris. The good honest salt of the earth kind, who work hard, love a good yarn and only beat their missus when the All Blacks lose. Then the other type, the ones who prowl around after dark. Dirty Horis who prey on young people alone in the night. Consider yourself luck to be alive. Is it better to be racist or dead?

>>135508451
I'm not ruling out Winston being PM.
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>>135508658
I hate national but even I agree that we need to be a Republic
Kiwis have absolutely no real patriotism
Being a wholly self governing and independent nation might spark that patriotic fire in kiwis to make NZ for NZrs
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>>135508868
how about this kind?
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>>135508658

What did you think the flag referendum was? It wasn't about the flag, the flag is the biggest hurdles to overcome to reach a republicanism referendum. If they were able to get us to vote in a new flag, then straight away they could say "Well, new flag, no union jack, might as well have a referendum guys". It was both for Key to have his name permanently engraved in NZ history as well as cause us to do a republic referendum and most likely exit the monarchy.
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I'm 17 and a few of my friends are saying they will vote labour. I have tried warning them about the effects of doubling the number of refugees. You guys got any redpills I could use?
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>>135508907
Who is this and where can I find more of her?
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>>135493390
Is national or labor /ourguys/ sorry I'm new to New Zealand politics
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>>135508998
I personally liked the flag just because most foreigners can't tell the difference between the nz and aussie flag.
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>>135508881
It really won't, since there would be no difference at all. Our parliament wouldn't even change, our head of state wouldn't be the Queen and that's all. The meme people tell us is about "self-governing and independent", when we are already that, I'd rather have the UKs influence than China's.
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>>135509085
Na winston peters (nz first) is /ourguy/
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>>135508658

Every political party is vaguely republican, same for Australia, not sure about Canada though. If t wasn't such an unpopular position they' probably put it more front and centre

>>135508881

Fuck "patriotism", there's nothing good to be found in basing a nation on values and sovereignty alone, almost all white Kiwis have blood ties to Britain and our culture and institutions are all wholly derived from her.
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>>135508907
Not Maori.

>>135509085
New Zealand First are /ourguys/
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>>135509271

>Every political party is vaguely republican

sans NZF of course
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>>135508907
She is, she's mixed though
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>>135509045
Forgot her name but she on the Olympic NZ woman's field hockey team. now I remember charolotte something or other
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>>135508998
>It wasn't about the flag

For some it was about eliminating a symbol of European heritage.

It would be the equivalent of having a referendum to decide to change the language of the Haka from Maori to a mixture of English, Maori, Manderin, Hindi, Tongan etc etc, and then altering the lyrics to make it unrecognizable as a part of Maori culture.
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>>135493390
The Maori Wars, which PC faggots call the New Zealand Wars, will happen again some time in the second half of this century.
>Māori children will make up 32.6 percent in 2038, compared with 25.6 percent in 2013.
Notice how in the same table, the NZ government is very careful to obscure the fact that the white fraction of NZ children will be absolutely tiny by inventing a bogus "European and Other" category.
> 'European or Other' children will make up 63.2 percent in 2038, compared with 71.6 percent in 2013.
>Māori children will make up 32.6 percent in 2038, compared with 25.6 percent in 2013.
>Asian children will make up 21.6 percent in 2038, compared with 11.9 percent in 2013.
>Pacific children will make up 19.6 percent in 2038, compared with 13.4 percent in 2013.
Let's do some simple math. What percent of the children will be non-white in 2038? This excludes the few percent of Africans and South Americans that will be present.
32.6% + 21.6% + 19.6% = 73.8%
So around 20 years later in New Zealand in around 2060, the fighting age male population of New Zealand will be around 80% non-white, with the largest group being Maori, who have a burning hatred of whites. When the 200 year anniversary of the end of the Maori Wars come in 2072, do you really think that the British Victory is going to be celebrated? Is it even "celebrated" today?
Maoris get off on having a "warrior" culture, and they'll kill every white man on the Islands if given the chance, and that chance will presents itself when the "rainbow coalition" has a super majority in the second half of the century. No one is going to give a fuck about massacring whitey on some far flung islands in the Chinese dominated world of the late 21st century. No one will come to save you.
http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/population/estimates_and_projections/NationalEthnicPopulationProjections_HOTP2013-38/Commentary.aspx
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>>135508881

>Kiwis have absolutely no real patriotism

Yes and you're never going to restore it by destroying your national identity and history. "self governing" is a liberal meme so you can become a 'post national' state. If you take two thousand years of British history out of New Zealand all you have are some angry natives and a pleasant welfare state.

>>135509271

That's actually kind of a strange thing about Canada, the Socialist Party (NDP) are the only ones that would dare voicing outright Republican sentiment. About half of the Conservative Party MPs are strongly pro monarchy and the other half support monarchy because it's the Conservative thing to do and they don't give a shit. The liberal party does actively destroy royal symbols and took away the "Royal" from our Air Force and Navy (which our lest Con PM restored) Justin Trudeau disrespects our Queen on occasion but he definitely isn't openly republican at all.
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>>135509271
>Fuck "patriotism"
This is the mentality that I despise about kiwis
Even on /pol/, most kiwis are completely unpatriotic
Traitors like you don't deserve to live in this country
If your ancestors who settled NZ hundreds of years ago heard what their descendant wrote, they would be deeply ashamed
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>>135509723
>>135508907
Not surpised
The only truly attractive girls in NZ are part Maori
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>>135506910
Metiria Turei is legit retarded, classic case of diversity coasting throughout her whole career. I met her several times in Auckland, a fat Maori retard and her daughter is a "performance art" whore. Also, hr and most of her friends are radical Marxists and affiliated with anarchist groups. They cleaned up their image on the surface in the last 6-9 years, but they are still as radical as the old days.
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>>135510216
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>>135510057
NZ has a culture and history independent of that of Uk
We were founded by sailors and whalers and farmers making a nation in the other side of the planet in a vast ocean
Go visit an NZ museum and learn about our wonderful heritage
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>>135510057

Exactly, white Kiwis have fallen ill to this American mind virus that our history began with colonisation, British history is our history, it's the history of our people
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>>135510358
The Museum is shit, all it really has is a gaint wall of KIA soldiers and music artists.
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>>135509036

Underage faggot
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>>135510372
We are descended from people who knew Britain was a shithole and decided to sail across the planet to explore distant lands 200 years ago to create a fresh new world
Go visit a museum and learn about your hardy rugged ancestors in the early 19th century
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>>135510422
What museum are you talking about?
Invercargill and Dunedin museums are great
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>>135510216
>(QT, but only when she isn't wearing the stupid red lipstick)
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>pommies give a fuck about new zea-
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>>135510573
Auckland's Museum is trash.

I'm white in West Auckland.
Help.
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>>135510660
Why are you in that white trash bogan shithole
Move to somewhere good
I'm planning on leaving the white trash bogan shithole I live in as soon as possible
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>>135510358

Yes, British sailors who wanted to extend the reach of the British Empire across the globe and republicanism is an insult to their legacy.

>>135510514

Do you really think that's what James Cook thought? Or the founders of the National Party who ending their first party platform with "God Save the King." What you speak of is purely revisionist ad hoc bullshit.
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>>135493390
Ejjj cusz, "empty space"
>most common interaction amongst the natives in NZ.
Disgusting filth.
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>>135510722
help
me
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>>135510514

meme history

>>135510722

>West Auckland is a white trash area

It's not the 90's anymore, West Auckland is all boongas and SEAsians
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>>135510830
I'm not talking about the British navy sailors, I'm talking about the original white settlers of NZ, the wilderness wildmen sailing the seas in search of distant lands to farm
The British navy didn't settle NZ, they just made sure the wild settlers didn't get too powerful
The Treaty of Waitangi was made to empower Maori and restrict power of the quickly expanding settler population
Britain didn't want the settlers to make another superpower like the settlers in America did, so they did everything they could to prevent that from happening in NZ
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>>135511063
Even with that, our history is British, sorry to disappoint.
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>>135511063

>Captain Cook wasn't a massive part of New Zealand history

>Britain didn't want the settlers to make another superpower like the settlers in America did

The hell are you on about, New Zealand doesn't have the size to support a 'superpower' even if you exterminated the entire native population.

Again what your talking about is a fantasy, if New Zealand's history was anti-British or republican they would have gotten rid of the flag and monarchy immediately after the statute of Westminster.
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>>135508998
Agree wholeheartedly.
The flag change was promoted significantly by Chinese interests and I suspect they would take the same stance with the Republic movement.
To deprive us of our Queen and Commonwealth can only isolate us further and puts us one step closer to being under the chinks thumb
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>>135511063
Revisionist nonsense. The whalers, miners and traders never had a large settler communities and mostly worked with Maori not in competition. The British started a coordinated effort to create a Britain of the South Pacific, which included settlers coming to farm and created an urban population. NZ never had the potential to be a superpower like the US.
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I wish I could live in Europe to do shit like this
https://youtu.be/382njADcWvE?t=297
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>>135510358
What the fuck are you smoking cunt.

NZ was forged by hard working anglo-saxons, with a whole bunch of fucking useless opportunistic cunts that swindled anyone they could to get established. Fast forward to 2017, now all the useless cunts have formed the perfect example of natural selection.

Fucking idiots, everywhere. Lifeless, culture less dry balls Christians, ideological politics followers and humanities majors, pushing "NZ culture".

You don't have any culture.

I on the hand, have more history in my family than this entire country. Hell, we have been farming the same land in Scotland for over 1000 years. New Zealand farmers can't even hold down a farm for 50 years.

Fucking hell, thick as fuck. Look at your political leadership?! You'd sell your last breath for a fucking hand job you knob jockies.
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>>135504132
bunch of people said in 06 their ethnicity was New Zealander not European
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>>135509956
Asians hate maoris and islanders
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>>135512562
>we have been farming the same land in Scotland for over 1000 years. New Zealand farmers can't even hold down a farm for 50 years.
being a peasant tied to the land does not really count when you can't leave
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>>135513059
We've owned the land dickwad.

How's your family doing? Own like 1 house, and hoping that it will 'gain value'... Or are your family all renting e.g. Homeless?
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>>135512690
Bet 80% of respondents didn't even know what ethnicity means.
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