/pol/ wants to deport a honest, hard-working, loving, law-ab

>>135465070

https://archive.is/XrtMH

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>Muh Civic Nationalism

>>135465070
Law abiding

>except for that being here illegally thing

>>135465070
>breaks the law
>law abiding

how retarded are you?

>no criminal record

>>135465235
>>135465236
>>135465264
>implying living on a different side of an imaginary line is a crime
>NAP violations are the only crimes

>>135465070

We aren't splitting the families up, as all of those folk are free to follow their dad "home".

Stop pretending that splitting up a family is all so horrible, it happens every day under Liberal Democrat agendas. For example, if thug black culture doesn't encourage a black father to run out on his children, CPS will be there to ensure the same results occur regardless if you do have loving black parents.

Why don't you think of the most obvious, children is in no way a defense from going to jail should a parent commit a crime.

Liberals are always hounding and gloating over the divorce rates; pretending to be outraged over split up families, family court's sole agenda is to break up families. There are NO measures put in place in ANY state that might imply that the states interest is first, keep the family together if at all possible. All they want to do, is split the family up, so they can milk the father for those child support payments.

So, families are split up all the time. And, I don't give a shit if these "immigrant" families are split up. They are free to stay together and follow their deported family members.

>>135465070

>no criminal record

Being an illegal immigrant is a crime. He is a fugitive from the law, factually speaking, which is infinitely worse...as his entire life he has to con, lie and hide like a rat or a cockroach. Can't be trusted. Guaranteed he has a family where he's from as well.

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>>135465070
We dont live in a libertarian society, we have laws. if we were in a stateless country then sure it would be up to individuals not governments where they live and who they will live by but so long as we have laws which are meant to be applied equally this is ILLEGAL

>>135465327
See
>>135465703

>>135465070
Back to Squatemala for the squatter.

>>135465327
>imaginary line is a crime
ah that's why I hate libertarians

>>135465327
>ancap
>human

Good I hope we deport more families and ruin more dumb minority babies. Illegal babies. The white man is too good to worry for such creatures. Yes I am this edgy

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>>135465820
>>135465853

>>135465070
"Don't take daddy away from us". Ok, you can go with daddy back to whatever hellhole country he came from. Problem solved.

>>135465327

can I live inside your house, your ownership is just an imaginary thing

>>135465327
What the hell are you talking about. there are tons of crimes because there are tons of laws. if we had no laws and no government it would not be a crime but we do so it is and if i go to jail for breaking the law other people should have the law enforced upon them as well. I would welcome (morally at least) the transition to a voluntary society though.

>>135465983
> can I violate NAP even though I said NAP are the only crimes?

No, are you retarded?

What a dumbass

>>135466064

i wouldnt be aggressive about it obviously so im not breaking the nap

>>135465070
>law-abiding
illegal

nice try

>>135465070
>only those with criminal records should get deported!

Fuck borders and national boundaries n shit lol we r all Americans

>>135465070
>Law abiding
>Illegal immigrant
He had to go back.

>>135465070
>no criminal record
But he is a criminal

>>135465070
what a racemixing bitch
why arent the spouses of illegals deported as well? together with the children

>>135465070
So why won't the stupid cunt go with him?

>>135465327
Yea, it is.

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>>135465070
Why do you believe that someone who broke a nations laws about its borders, does not deserve the punishment for said law-breaking. If i was found to have molested children or killed someone, there is a statute of limitations but even that can be seen as mercy to a criminal; obvious disregard of justice. Do you believe sneaking into this nation should have a statute of limitations? Like some wacky game of mehico vs gringos cat and mouse? If not then what do you suggest?

>>135465165
Said the person who is part of an ethnic tribe dressed as a religion...
What exactly IS Shapiro's "ideology".
All i care about is conscientiousness.

>>135466645
no.. it isn't.

If you own property, it's yours. Not the State's. It doesn't matter where this property is located with respect to imaginary lines.

>>135465070
>oy vey don't deport this illegal man look at his blonde wife and children u racists surely you like him now

He can take his wife and kids with him

>illegal migrant
>law abiding

what? this is surely sorcery

>>135465070
>No criminal record

:3

>>135466464
I think we should make that a new law.

>>135465070
>Illegal immigrant
>law abiding
pick one

>>135465070

>no criminal record

>being in the US illegally is a crime

but thats wrong you fucking idiot.

>>135465327
All human "rights" are imaginary, too, but suddenly those made-up concepts are important. Typical leftist cherrypicking.

>>135465070
>get married and have kids
>can't be bothered to spend an hour applying for residence
What

>>135465327

>DURR I CAN IGNORE LAWS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT

off yourself, faggot

>>135465070
>honest
>illegal trespassing

Pick on.e.

>>135465070
If I take steal a Porsche off the lot and drive it around for a week before the cops track me down, is it relevant to say, "you can't arrest me and take my car away, I've been having fun with this car all week"?

>>135465070
Yep. I sure do. They can go with him.

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>>135465109

>>135465327
>imaginary line

Is math "imaginary" you dumb nigger?

>>135466464
From what I've read they usually self-deport anyway. We're looking at 26-36 million people fucking off over the next 10 years. 36-50 million if Trump starts removing permanent residents on welfare too.

>>135466222
>>135466309
>>135466320
>>135466382
>>135466864
>>135466928
>>135466977
>>135466985
>>135466989
>>135467040

Again, procuring property and living is not a crime. It is not a violation of anyone's rights. There are no such thing as positive rights or rights that are only realized as a restriction of other people's rights.

Read some Bastiat, people or be a Marxist elsewhere

>>135465070
They shouldn't split up that poor family. Send the rest back with him.

>>135465070
>No criminal record.
>Broke the law entering country illegally
Doesn't make sence to me. get him out. his wife an kids too

>>135465070
>Law Abiding
>Illegal immigrant
Pick one

>>135465070
>Law abiding
>Illegal immigrant.
Kys

>>135465070
Bye.

>>135465070

>implying she can't go back with him

In the years that he's been in the US, they should have enough money saved up to live pretty high off the hog in his nation of origin until he goes through the proper process to get citizenship. The irony is that he'd already be a citizen if he'd just done the shit legally since he's married to a US citizen, but he wanted to be a stupid spic and now his white liberal wife is going to grandstand and make herself the new cause célèbre to get those gibmedats from rich white guilt commies.

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what part of illegal alien are you having ttrouble understadning?

mom should lose citizenship for harboring and kids go too

>illegal immigrant
>law abiding
How do you say dindu nuffin in Spanish?

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>>135465070

>>135467225

ok faggot, im going to come live in your house.

after all, living there is not a crime.

>>135467225
>procuring property and living is not a crime
But entering a country illegally is.

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>>135465070
.

>>135467225
It is when a nation enacts laws about that...

>>135466985
Reminder that the reason the left is pushing for the term "undocumented" instead of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT is because they want to pretend that breaking a countries border laws isn't a crime, and trick the public into thinking it as well

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>>135465327
The NAP is a Spook

>>135465327
Being on the other side of that line is a violation of the NAP you retard

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>>135465070


>Law abiding
>Illegal immigrant
>pick one faggot

>>135465070
If they aren't taking any sort of welfare, or gov assistance. Have not commited any crimes. And are not allowed to vote, then I don't give a fuck if they are here.

>>135467414
you can't realize rights that violate other people's rights. of course, living in my house without my permission is a crime. Some bloke living in CT is not a crime. Is this so hard to understand?

>>135465070
>>>/out/ faggot

>>135467225
>tossing our authors as an argument
If it helps your 17 year old mind. Think of the country as your mom, and these people claiming her vaginal canal as their own. She wasnt using it and certainly didnt claim it after a few cocktails.

>>135467225
>I know the law says this is a crime and every judge within the nation will agree but:
>It's just a line in the sand people! It's not a crime to cross it!
>Gosh why can't we just accept that my political ideology is what America has implemented right now?
Would you like to point out the exact laws and statutes that say illegal immigration is infact illegal, or would you prefer to stay in the peace of your own personal echo chamber?

>>135465327
>(((ancap)))
You have to go back. Make aliyah.

>>135467493

I know, it's retarded

>be rapist

>call them "person who did not ask consent"

>entered illegally
>told he could stay provisionally

provisionally
prəˈvJʒən(ə)li/
adverb
adverb: provisionally

subject to further confirmation; for the time being.

>ignores government advice, starts family.
>surprised when asked to leave.

>>135465165
Little Ben doesn't care about ethnicity? That's convenient, no one cares anymore about Little Ben. He has to go back too.

>>135467348
>picture on the left is before

blonde christian katy hudson era was "before"

picture on the left is "after", and picture on the right is illuminati overdose

>>135465070
>law-abiding
>illegal
Anon, this post is so low iq, it would vote for Hillary

>>135465070
Not sure why libertarianism matters, but what's libertarian about families in the first place?

>>135465109

My new favorite addition to browsing /pol/. Based bot

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>>135467717
>Alright I'm gonna ask you a few questions, you ready?
>"Are you from here?"
>"No"
>"Did you come here legally? And by legally I mean by the proper channels applying for permission through the host Countries government?"
>"No"
>"Then you are an Illegal immigrant"
>"I prefer undocumented American"

>>135465070
should have deported the kids too.

>>135465070
>law-abiding
>illegal citizen
Pick one

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>>135465165

>I get an ethnostate and you don't

Fucking kike

>>135465964
>Anybody who disagrees with me is a Marxist
>People who are vehement anti-marxists who want border control to prevent their country from becoming third world are marxists.

This is seriously why I don't like Libertarians anymore
You're fucking idiots and I hope your family gets murdered by these savage niggers, maybe then you'll understand.

>>135465372
She did a low-budget porno with a fat nerd. Yes, she was bleached.

>>135468342
Cough up the info faggot

Op is a spic and sure as hell isnt ancap, sage

>>135465070
>living in the country illegally
>law-abiding

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>>135465070
Pic Related

>>135468273
>I have one very Marxist belief so please don't treat me like the other idiotic, shit for brains Marxists

border controls, a la East Germany, are a staple of the most Marxist regimes.

https://fee.org/articles/immigration-controls-are-socialist/

Property ownership is a God given right, and can never be deprived of you by a State arbitrarily

>>135467239
underrated

>>135468080

And the wife

>>135465327
Stop pretending to be a Libertarian, Gary "don't say illegal" "bake the damn cake" Johnson.

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>>135465070
So let me get this straight.
- Commit crime, should not be here to begin with
- Criminal negligence puts family and children in compromising position

BUT somehow it's the unfair government's fault

This is a very serious problem, rampant race mixing with "white-ish" shitskins

Thats how you get South America
Whole continents of 90 IQ light brown ppl

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>>135467600
Thanks for reminder.
Sun going down in Chicago
Almost time.

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>>135468713
that's the spirit.

>>135467371
I think they call it a siesta in Spain

>>135465070
So if they love each other why doesn't she just emigrate with her kids?

I don't know the American migration laws but I'm sure if he actually tried he would have easily gotten citizenship if he is married to that woman

Sounds like it's completely his own fault

>>135469767
in a perfect society, that'd remain entirely the family's decision. they should be able to reside wherever they choose. I'm thinking since she has a house in CT, she'd want to stay in CT.

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>>135465070
First of all, she's not really much of an "American" if she's mixing with some other race and having babies that will identify as something other than white... Why even bother calling this kind of woman American? CNN back at it again.

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>>135465070
>law-abiding
>Illegal immigrant

Pick fucking one, you disingenuous asshole.

>>135465070
>law-abiding

doubt it. Illegal immigration is illegal.

>>135465070
Always the same
>Illegal alien
>no criminal record
Pick one. You can't have both.

>>135470238
>>135470321
>>135470403
easy when the laws themselves violate property (and therefore, human) rights

>>135470803
well when you start your own hippie faggot country that gives a shit about made up property rights, do your thing bro.

>>135469061
>implying South America has a bunch of blonde mixed race people running around

Don't be retarded

>>135470948
I don't want to live in the Marxist hellhole you're envisioning

>>135465070
send them all back

>>135467225
>I AM A SOVEREIGN CITIZEN

Any of those arrest videos you?

Why are liberal so many in numbers?
It is mind boggling how such a contradicting bunch of people exists. It seriously baffles me.
Are they better at pr?
Red pilling is part of enlightening the masses, we are already helping with that. These people SERIOUSLY lack basic common sense.

How is he getting deported if he married a US citizen? Something about this story isn't adding up, which isn't surprising given the (((source))).

>>135473430
It's (((them))) trying to make people feel bad.

I want them off usa because when usa falls they will come back to mexico and destroy it even more.

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JUST LIKE US GOYIM

Pay the toll

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>>135465070

Right. Lets let our feelings on individual cases dictate our laws.

>>135465070
>no criminal record
>is an illegal alien
so he does have a criminal record.

why didn't he file for citizenship?

If you want to live in a country, you file for citizenship. It's so easy. Why do people choose to be criminals?

>>135465070
>law abiding

Damn the bait on here gets weaker everyday

>>135468657
Have you ever read das kapital or the communist manifesto?

>>135465070
if he's married can't he just get a green card or something?

>>135465070
if he broke the law coming to the United States he is not a law-abiding dad.

>>135465070
paying the toll

>>135473879
>believes distributors of narcotics should be killed
Drugs weren't even illegal during most of the 19th century. What makes you think illiterate potato niggers gave a fuck about narcotics back in the days when you could buy cocaine from a drug store?

>>135465914
Go back to bed now jimmy

>>135467053
Your argument sucks ass

>>135468342
Link?

>>135465070
He knowingly broke the law when he illegally came to the United States.

>>135465327
>Imaginary
>Lines are clearly drawn on maps
Ancaps everyone!

>>135466064
The NAP is just an imaginary concept. The only thing that is real is someone being stronger and more powerful than you.

>>135465372
Didn't it turn out she wasn't actually illegal and was just trying to virtue signal?

>>135465070
Alex Marquardt must be wicked unfortunate-looking if they chose instead to put her ugly mug on the article.

>>135474383
he could also just get married and stay. you know, and be a part of the family.

>>135474866

As does suggesting that he is "law-abiding". ILLEGAL Immigrant. He can't be law-abiding if he is here ILLEGALLY...

>>135465327
>implying living on a different side of an imaginary line is a crime

Do you lock your door when you leave your house or lock the doors on your car?
If so then you're a hypocrite.

>>135465800
Kek'd n checked

>>135474556
What makes you think an illiterate potato nigger would appreciate druglords?

>>135465070
JUST GET A FUCKING GREENCARD YOU STUPID BEANER

>>135465977
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>>135467781
>>135468080
>>135468713
>>135469767
>>135469906
>sneak into a country illegally
>assume you are safe so you start a r-ship
>have kids
>miss court dates, so comfy that you'll be tolerated
>government follows laws to deport you by procedure
>claim that government is cruel for breaking up your family
This is a man who so disrespected the Laws of the United States, he had the temerity to father children in an insecure, illegal situation and didn't even make his court dates to stay.
If his woman loves him, and his relationship with the kids is so important, they can return with him to Guatemala and begin the process of legal immigration. I will sponsor him, his lawyer can work pro bono.
>several million legal immigrants living an American Life
>He Must Go Back

>>135465372
That humanoid got bullied off twitter, that was beautiful day. Thank you for reminding me.

>>135465070
>muh no criminal record
He's a fucking criminal by the fact he's in the country illegally

>>135475934
T. Women hating virgin that gets back at the girls that laughed at him in high school by attacking random women on the internet

>>135465070

>honest

>law abiding

Well this thread was /thread right out of the gate.

If you didn't come here legally you can get the fuck out of my country.

T. iCE agent

>>135465070
would have liked to see this illegal gibsmedats spic beaten to death in front of ITS family

>>135476137
kys white knight

>>135476183
Please give water, food, shelter, and basic medical attention to the illegal invaders as you deport them back across the border. Thank you for your service, be kind, be firm, and be dispassionate in your duties.

>>135476235
Didn't defend her, dumb dumb.

>>135465070

The commons should not be some unregulated mess, where everyone should have the impetus to exploit it indefinitely.
Since much of America and its subsidiaries are not private property, the state itself should just play the part of an austere private landowner and prevent open access.
Yes deport illegal immigrants.

>>135465070
Law-abiding.

Illegal immigrant.

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>>135465327

Border crossing stations don't make those lines imaginary

How is he "paying his taxes" without a social sec #? Can we add falsifying govt documents to his rap sheet?

>>135476991
The wife is most likely filed as a single mother with several other (obviously fake) dependents and the father is most likely getting paid under the table.
There's a far better chance of nailing her for tax evasion, falsifying documentation, and harboring of a criminal.... But she's a white bitch so of course the law will never hold her accountable.

>>135465327
That is violating the NAP. Looks like you need a helicopter ride (((fellow libertarian))). Always kill a traitor before the enemy.

>>135465327
>Imaginary line

Well borders enforced via property rights are imaginary, yet somehow important.
I don't see why the state should maintain a policy of open access.

> ILLEGAL Immigrant
> "No Criminal Record"

Seriously, how fucking stupid can libtards be?

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>>135475135

naah, she's illegal. Right after Trump won she was on a video with quivering voice hoping Trump would be kind and she dindu and didn't really think her tweet through, please don't deport me.

>>135465070
>honest
Except about his legality.
>hard-working
To dodge the law.
>loving
Except when he started competing with Americans in the job market.
>law-abiding
His presence in the USA is a violation of the law.

They shouldn't have started the family. Now there are consequences for the children which could have been prevented.

>>135465070
>illegal immigrant
>no criminal record
Pick one

>>135475098
This is the truth of the world. Thinking anything else is ignorant, and semantics about what defines power will not change it.

>>135477506
link?

>>135465070
>Ironically the group clamouring for killing babies in utero, denying traditional family values and the one that spits in the eye of traditional marriage is the one thinking they speak for families now

>>135467608
perhaps you're pretending to not notice the invisibles, but they're there.
If he hits someone elses car, who insures the damages?
If he accidentally injures someone, who pays the health costs?
If he sells something, is there tax payed?

No. Because he's there illegally, and theres a tonne of rhetoric as to why that is a crime against a nation.

I mean, perhaps you hate nations, and fair enough, but commies are generally pretty unhappy in commie countries historically.

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>>135477976
http://kxan.com/2016/11/09/valedictorian-ut-freshman-behind-viral-tweet-fears-deportation/

>>135465070
>law-abiding
That would be true if his mere presence in the US wasn't against the law.

>>135465070
You dont even have to be married to get a visa, you can get a fiancee visa and then become a Citizen if you marry a citizen, this guy messed up himself a couple of times.
No one to blame but himself

>>135478281
He probably had a criminal record. Otherwise he'd have been granted citizenship the second that shank popped out that kid.

how come he never applied for citizenship after he got married?

>>135465327
>ancap libertarian
>form community of ancap libertarians
>some people fuck up
>calamity upon calamity stacks up until the community can't handle it anymore
>decide to draw up a set of laws
>same people will ignore them
>prevent that by creating an institution that enforces laws
>create another institution for adjudication of laws
>need money to fund them
>tell everyone if they want to benefit from these laws they must chip in
>the reach of the laws is limited by the size of the community
>some people foreign to the community hop into the area and ignore the laws
>too many people in jail and courts who aren't from the community these institutions serve
>have to force them out of the area
>set up new system of patrols that checks up on the limit of the law's range
>inventive community member suggests putting down a wall at this limit
>calls it a border
>suggests guardsmen protect it at the gates
>maintenance is paid for by toll
>this all needs organising
>people suggest delegation of these responsibilities to dedicated personnel
>to prevent corruption, this personnel changes every few months / years
>new people are voted on by the citizens of this ancap libertarian community
>except it's not ancap libertarian anymore

Libertarianism inevitably leads to gated communities and gouvernment.

>>135478398
story is fishy, says he missed a court date and got an order of removal....back in 2004, so definitely Trumps fault.

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>>135472994
Are you new here? Heres the deal.
YOU are fundamentally 'liberal' (because thats an american term, and falls unsatisfactoraly short in many ways) in MANY of your views,
and are conservative in SOME of your views.

You might not think so, but its a consequence of the time you live in, unless you were raised in the hills by rednecks, some of societys values got into you.

You don't think that people should be property. Theres lots nestled into that, but you believe in the relative freedom of association of the individual. In freedom of information.
You believe in a lot of 'left' or liberal values.

The left isn't the "most correct" one, its the least -authoritarian- one. The right believes in conserving current conditions, but change is natural, and so authoritarian control must be exercised to make any change, if it must happen, gradual.
It must grab, and hold, and control.

If either were taken to extreme, it would be a disaster overall, but education tends to lead to diversity of thought, and the only plurality is a desire to throw off perceived authoritarian controls.

The media NEEDS to have autonomy to operate effectively, so has an enforced bias toward anti-authoritarianism.

Conservative IS the 'default'. It SHOULD be, it represents 'how it HAS BEEN'. Education shows where the problems with 'regressionism', and areas of contention, where emerging human desires clash with tradition, and education equips the thinker to propose solutions (good and bad) and demand the freedoms to enact these changes.

>>135479019
I believe the term you're looking for is socialist.

>>135475934
yeah, but did she get deported?

>>135468342
Proofs?

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>>135465070
>Dad with no criminal record
>Came to the country illegally

Doing illegal things is criminal.

>>135467633
how can you not understand that living in a country without the country's permission is a crime

>>135465070
>literally, absolutely knew the EXACT consequences of being caught doing what he was doing
OMG WHY AM I BEING DETAINED OMG ITS SO WRONG!!!

Should deport the coal-burning wife and mongrel brats, too.

>>135465327
>implying the line is imaginary
Fuck off, Marxist scum!

>>135467200

Man that upcoming buyers market will fix the poorfag millennial rental tenant problem.

>>135465070
Not saying I like beaners a lot but... even with marrying a US citizen the process of naturalization is long and expensive. About $5k when all is said and done and even then you may not pass the test or be accepted. There's too much fraud nowadays to have an easy process

>>135479212
Thanks for the (you).... but socialism is a little different. Socialism is "well, you ARE poor as fuck. Perhaps we should, as a society, try to make seeing a doctor affordable, if only so you don't spread the pox to my relatives."
The costing there might wind up very inefficient to the taxpayer, and be a case for user-pays, and can lead to national deficit and a dead economy when poorly nuanced.

I'm willing to make argument for and against socialism, but we were SORTA talking about liberty,
and Authoritarian positions have to try really hard to not be the bad guy, compared to libertarianism, because authoritarinism implys people are owned, somehow, by someone or something, and libertarianism trys to defy such controls.
Although traditional values have their standard-bearers, they have difficulty in PR debates against the people who ideologically claim to request freedom from slavery (however nuanced such a claim may or may not be).

Whoever has the power becomes the 'bad guy' in such a perspective, which is one of its shortcomings.

>>135467225
>procuring property is not a crime.

So if I show up at your property with an AK and procure your property that's totally legal?

>Living is not a crime.

Is it the living that's the issue or the fact this dude is an illegal alien?

>>135465327
Trespassing is a violation of the NAP

>>135468273
Fuck off dixiefag, you're the reason America is full of niggers and spics.

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>>135465070
Becone citizen, its very easy, this dude is simply either lazy or doesnt speak the language or doesnt work... either way hes gotta go.

>>135465235
>>135465236

He hasn't committed a crime since his last crime, you bigots.

>>135465070
don't care in the slightest

>>135465070
>Not very libertarian.
fuck libertardians

>>135480419
trespassing whose property? give me a name and an address of the person's property this guy has trespassed.

>>135467225
>procuring property and living is not a crime

How far does that go hosehead? If it's at the expense of others? If I eat your food or squat in your house?

>>135481896
intrinsically, since his property is his and your property is yours, the realization of his rights don't come REMOTELY at your expense. Hence, your strawman is irrelevant.

>>135465070
>American wife

I thought if you got married to a citizen you pretty much got citizenship automatically. Is this not the case?

> let me find one sob story
> therefore you must allow millions of illegal immigrants,
> who have massive numbers of problems with crime, and welfare usage stay

Your brain doesn't work right OP.