Anarcho-capitalism, in my opinion, is a doctrinal system which,

>>135419770
you should probably just kill yourself before you realize how embarrassing you are

>>135419867
Not an argument.

>>135419770
The freer the market, the freer the people.

http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/md/awi/professuren/intwipol/public_choice.pdf

>>135419770
>Chooses to partake in a service
>THIS IS TYRANNY

>>135420043
Your flag looks like a used period pad off yourself.

>>135419770
Read more literature fag

>>135420387
>The only form of coercion is a literal gun
>Fair negotiation can take place under inequality
>I am an intellectual infant

>>135419770
>why do things require work?

>>135419770

The sooner you realize that any laws of man are still subject to the the law of the jungle the better off you'll be and the longer you might survive.

Conquest is the only truth, martial discipline the only virtue. Take what's yours and claim your glory.

>>135420570
>You have less than me, therefore I cannot negotiate with you, as it would be unfair of me to expect anything in an exchange from you, but totally fair of you to take from me

I bet you think there are "needs" too you fucking socialist.

>>135420570
also what the fuck defines "inequality"? If you're taller than me can you no longer negotiate with me, as we have intrinsic inequality between us?

The absolute state of Leftist Philosophy

>>135419770
How would socialism play out?

>>135421062
Liberty will just exist because social integration and mana from heaven will rain down without any sort of coercive force.

>>135419770
Let me ask you this what separates the green from the purple? Both represent societies free of authoritarianism. Free of authoritarianism men can congregate however they so choose. Thus in an ancap society people can choose to seek their own self interests just as well as they can seek collective interests. Now assuming most people want to live decent lives I think people would gravitate towards the center. See people always put anal in that purple corner but I think it would truly exist in the entire bottom half because individuals have a choice in how much the wish to engage in activities that act as the stateless version of socialism such as charities and whatnot

Freedom is not inherently good.

Stop believing this lie that is repeatedly drilled into us to make us complacent in the spread of degeneracy.

>>135420710
>the the law of the jungle

Except there are no "property rights" in the jungle. You own whatever you can take for yourself.

>>135419770
wat's a corporate tranny?

>>135422216
Tyranny by unaccountable private concentrations of power, the worst kind of tyranny you can imagine.

It picks up from the libertarian tradition one element, namely opposition to state power. But it leaves open all other forms of — and in fact favors — other forms of coercion and domination. So it’s radically opposed to the libertarian tradition, which was opposed to the master-servant relation.

>The masters, being fewer in number, can combine much more easily; and the law, besides, authorizes, or at least does not prohibit their combinations, while it prohibits those of the workmen. We have no acts of parliament against combining to lower the price of work; but many against combining to raise it. In all such disputes the masters can hold out much longer. A landlord, a farmer, a master manufacturer, a merchant, though they did not employ a single workman, could generally live a year or two upon the stocks which they have already acquired. Many workmen could not subsist a week, few could subsist a month, and scarce any a year without employment. In the long run the workman may be as necessary to his master as his master is to him; but the necessity is not so immediate.
- Adam Smith

>>135419770
How is forcing someone to pay liberty and not doing so tyranny?

>>135423287
No one's forced to do anything if there's no tyrant in the first place.

Tyrannical rulers to democratic government, tyrannical business owners to democratic ownership.

>>135419770
tfw some nip thinks he can call me an idiot but his ancestors caused the US to join the brits in war and develop the atomic bombs

>>135423658
I didn't call you an idiot before, but I will now. Idiot.

>>135423613
>no one's forced to do anything if there's no tyrant
yes brother yes!
overthrow the tyrant of hunger which forces you to feed and starve to death like all the rest of the poor souls who tried to implement socialism fucking idiot

>>135423852
There is already enough food being produced to feed the entire human population five times over.

>>135423451
I made it big so fuck you, can confirm

>>135423964
>>135423964
until some retard socialist decides to murder all the birds

>>135424333
*Tyrant

I oppose tyranny in all forms.

>>135419770
>Potentate
>Subjects

I think you mean free contract between consenting parties, nip-kun :^)

>>135419770

Yeah.... because good old anarchy and social collapse are unkown to human history...

Remember Katrina?
See South Sudan but with less technology and organisation.

By the way, that shit being implemented in the American Southwest, for instance, is just an invitation to narco rule Mexican style.

>>135420043
Buddy we do the "is anarcho-syndicalism or anarcho-capitalism the actual anarchy" argument like twice and week and syndicalism always gets btfo, come back once you know some shit

>>135419770
>weimar republic
>liberty
2/10

>>135420964
the problem with this is that the libertarian-left will claim stupid shit like pedophilia a positive right.
i'd rather have no rights or negative rights than have disqusting degenerates.

>>135424798
Feudalism was also "consensual."
>Feudal ties are essentially private, personal, and contractual relationships.
- Hans-Hermann Hoppe

The biggest problem for me with libertarianism, night watchman state, ancap etc. is that it completely fails in answering how to preserve culture over any reasonable amount of time. Culture would belong to the highest bidder or the whole territory would be taken over by some inferior nation state.

>>135425406
>Consensual
>Serfs are property

Really gets the Marxism pumping.

>>135424665
in opposing tyranny you enforce your own tyranny

people tend to organize under authority because it is the most efficient way to distribute resources.

you think we would be growing so much food without capitalist incentives?
not in 1000 years buddy boi

>>135425550
Trying to "preserve" culture is a fool's errand. Sorry, but things change over time. That's how reality works. You may not like it, but you're like a child who can't grasp the concept of inevitable death.

>>135425791
Markets and competition are not reliant on the concentration of power. Also, resources are laughably distributed currently. It's actually at the point of absurdity.

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>>135419770
then why do you continue to live under the only modern economy anywhere even remotely close to AnCap?

>>135426013
Somalia's flag is actually blue and has a star instead of a circle.

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>>135419770
>government tyranny
The only ones who have anything to fear from a dictatorship of the proletariat are porkies but they're not people so it doesn't really matter.

>>135425406
>Feudalism was also "consensual."
Now what was real Hoppe's opinion https://mises.org/library/marxist-and-austrian-class-analysis-1
He says that exploitation should be defined as an appropriation of property through non-creative and non-contractual way.
He claims that feudalism was exploitative, because landlords illegally claimed property titles in land, which they had never used for themselves.

>>135426103
>somalia
>sharia
>ancap
Communists are at least two standard deviations below Ancaps.

>>135420761
lol XDDDD

>>135423852
>advocating democratic ownership makes you Stalin

>>135419770
green square is by far the most retarded square. as someone in the purple square, i think even the red one is less retarded. the green one means that people will willingly, without the aid of an overbearing government, abandon currency and all their possessions and come sing kumbaya around the campfire. dumb as fuck and makes no sense. at least the red square realizes that you need a strong central government to get people to actually do that shit.

>>135425791
Oh yeah corporate authority is so efficient that the country throws away nearly half of its food despite people going hungry, products are sometimes literally made to break or be almost useless at a certain point, and some of the most "successful" companies have reputations for notoriously bad customer service and general quality.

>>135426103
>based jap
This guy is right. You guys are all in a fantasy.

>>135426819
That's like saying the entire purple square believes in nothing but might-is-right social Darwinism yet expects warlords not to take over society and create an army of lolis.

Trade unions need to advocate for more and more rights within workplaces. Pay should move closer to the value of one's contribution. People should be able to negotiate their hours. The CEO's portion of profit should start declining. The CEO should be held accountable to his workforce. That's about it, for now.

Maybe it's because where I live, workplaces are even more tyrannical and soul-crushing than elsewhere, but this stuff is a no-brainer.

>>135423201
This

If anarcho-capitalism would result in corporate tyranny, why do corporations hate it?
Why do they work so hard to support socialist parties and fight so hard to undermine libertarian ones?
You have been lied to, and you have become a useful idiot.
True egalitarians know they must be capitalists.
Only by suppressing power differences in society may true value shine.
That means equality under the law.
That means equality of opportunity.
Socialists take all legal and economic power for themselves.
They make themselves billionaires.
Still, you support them, for "equality".
What will it take to break this lie that has let socialism rob the worker of the true value of their labor?

>>135427830
I did make it big and develop a fuck you attitude towards all gibs, but I've been an an-cap egalitarian since I was 11.
Structural power discrepancies under socialism ensure massive wealth discrepancies under socialism.
So it has been every time.
So it shall be every time.
It is a simple repercussion of the true nature of power.
If you wish to have egalitarian outcomes, distribute power in an egalitarian manner.
Relatedly, one of my early clues that socialism was going to be a steaming pile was that modern socialists are anti-gun.
That suggests they don't want to distribute power widely.
It was a factoid that got me looking.

>>135428159
I grew up in poverty.

>>135420964
I'll take No Rights over "positive rights" thanks.

>>135427830
>>135428159
>>135428187
>muh guns
>muh feelings of powerlessness
>muh decent salary job
>muh poor people takin muh roads
There is always going to be somebody more powerful than you that will walk over you. You dont want to give up any thing you have earned just like multi-millionaires and billionaires dont.

>>135427830
>Why do they work so hard to support socialist parties and fight so hard to undermine libertarian ones?
That's not true at all. Corporations typically advocate for social freedoms if they get political, yes. But that has nothing to do with economy. Gay marriage does not take away from a CEO's profit, but it does make him seem trendier. The difference in taxation between mainstream left and right is almost nothing.
>Only by suppressing power differences in society may true value shine.
I agree, and that includes taking measures to give workers a more fair share of the profit they generate.

>>135428441
I didn't have anything when I formed these ideas.
I used public libraries heavily. Free is a nice price.
Try reading one.
A library, that is. Not a book.
Try reading a few thousand.
That'll start you catching up.
The biggest temptation against capitalism for me has always been and I suspect always will be libraries.
I wouldn't be a capitalist without them, after all.

>>135428617
Gah. I dropped a line from that post.
>A library, that is. Not a book.
If you're only reading books,
>Try reading a few thousand.

I'm not claiming to have read thousands of libraries.

>>135428159
I am anti-gun simply because I live in a country that's already one of the safest in the world, and I don't want to fuck that up. If I lived in the US, I would be pro-gun.

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>>135419770
Why do you assume that low-tier plebeians always deserve gibs?

Meritocracy is the law of the universe. Making gibs mandatory just allows low-tier trash to breed faster and consume more resources.

What's the left-libertarian solution to the African overpopulation problem?

>>135428731
Have you read...
>A Peoples' History of the United States
>The Grapes of Wrath
>The Strange Non-Death of Neoliberalism

>>135428617
Libraries, schools/universities, museums. All good things for the common good that have no purely commercial merit. I probably read 100's of books in college. I read a lot when I was in the Navy. I dont think reading leads to anarcho-capitalism...

I grew up poor also. I have a good job now. Still disagree with your ideology.

>>135429149
Have you looked at Venezuela?

Niggers + leftism = collapse.

>>135428487
Value systems and dominance heirarchies naturally make people unequal. For there to be someone good at brain surgery, by definition it means there are people worse at brain surgery.

The people at the top of companies make as much as they do for a reason, it's fully reflective of the value they put into running the companies. If the people at the top were selfish and only cared about their own profits and not the profits of the company or benefits to the worker, the company would fail and the workers will go to a place that benefits them.

You cannot try to artificially inflate the value of the worker simply by decreeing that they're worth more. If you really believe this'll work, try to start a fast food chain that pays all its workers $15 and see how long until you go bankrupt. Some jobs just aren't worth much value

>>135427022
Food gets thrown-away due to health standards. do you want to catch salmonilla?

Also, somebody explain to me why having human DNA makes you automatically "equal" or entitled to anything.

>>135428969
The old woman working at the 7/11 across the street diligently greets me every time I walk into the store, bows, hands me my credit card with both hands, always smiles, always offers to warm up my food for me, always says thank you and goodbye when I walk out the door. And her job is necessary. She doesn't deserve poverty or to be called a plebeian.

You probably accept that so many jobs are necessary, that their existence allows you to live a high quality luxurious life, but claim that whoever works them deserves to be poor regardless of how much profit they create.

I claim that any worker contributing to a wildly successful business deserves a decent life if their job is truly needed by that business.

>>135428487
>>135429587
Also, since when is the value of a good determined by the labor put into it?

Value is determined by how much somebody is willing to pay for something.

>>135429769
You live in Japan. Try living in downtown Detroit, you sheltered weeb.

For everyone reading this thread, if I could convince you of two things, you know what one of them would be.
The other one would be this:
Hyperliterate poor people don't stay poor.
If you aren't in a position to be supporting your local library, use it until you are!

>>135429769
>someone works a simple and mundane job diligently
>they don't deserve poverty for it
Actually, they deserve exactly what they make. If they deserved more, the job would pay more. The job is certainly worth more to her than to the company, if she were to demand more wages and risk quitting, the company would merely hire someone from the laundry list of people willing to work a mundane job for minimum wage. It's supply and demand, and you're never going to see the worker compensated for more than what the value of the job is worth when there's a worker out there willing to do that job for that value.

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>>135429769
>>135429853
Also, that's assuming you're not just LARPing with a VPN.

Also, globalism and open borders would turn Japan into a shithole.

Japan's natural high-IQ citizenry, nationalist unity, NatSoc trade protectionism, and capitalist system of production are what make it so wealthy and technologically advanced. How many muslim bombings have you had, faggot?

>>135429429
>>135429660
>>135429807
>>135429853
I grew up in Detroit. Had to join the military to escape it. This guy is making a lot of good points.

>>135430287
Yeah, escape your nigger-filled city controlled by Democrats.

Are you not seeing a connection?

>>135419770
>tyranny of the social mobs
>""liberty""

>>135430163
Do you own a factory? How does this help you? Are you the same type of person who wants to bring high paying jobs back to America from China? The factory wants to pay as little as possible for any work. Not just mundane work. They will pay an engineer as little as possible just the same as they will pay a janitor as little as possible.

>>135429587
>it's fully reflective of the value they put into running the companies.
No, it reflects their tyrannical ownership.
>the company would fail and the workers will go to a place that benefits them.
False. Workers are more expendable than they are needed. Google "inequality of bargaining power." See >>135423201 Even Adam Smith recognized it. There is no way for workers to have equal footing negotiating their relationship with the CEO, it's impossible. It only creates a master-slave relationship. That's what you see today, dominance and subjugation.
>Some jobs just aren't worth much value
If the minimum wage was abolished, wages would drop even further down than they already are.

If migrants arrived, they would continue to drop with no bottom limit.

People might eventually start working just to be fed. I thought Americans had to read The Grapes of Wrath and learn about The Great Depression in high school. Early industrial history, with its child labor and excessive violence towards workers, extreme exploitation, constant abuse and deaths, should convince anyone that there's something rotten about master-slave relationships in business.

>>135430469
All anarchy is 'groid-tier.

A "leftist" anarchist society would be just the same as Somalia after a few years. Especially when your country 40% or more nigger apes.

Notice how Antifa types and hippie commies tend to always come from sheltered, upper-middle class white neighborhood?

>>135430369
The governor of Michigan is a republican. The problem with Detroit is all of these corporations that you think will fix all the problems left.

wish nu/pol/ would learn about national socialism and not jewified ancap or libertarian garbage.

>>135430746
>muh governor

The distant, watered-down powers of the governor can't save your city when it's full of niggers, kid.

>>135430585
Everyone literally everyone pays the absolute minimum they have to for the quality they want, it's how an economy works.

When's the last time you saw two different items of perfectly equal value and chose to pay more for one over the other? It's the same with paying workers

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be a little nuanced please.

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national socialism is the only way for peace throughout the world.

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>>135430990
4 is the only way forward.

>>135430163
>Actually, they deserve exactly what they make.
Are you sure? Because your ideology would say she should make even less. Right now it's only the government forcing the wage to be as high as it is (minimum wage). Otherwise it would drop to who knows how low.
> if she were to demand more wages and risk quitting, the company would merely hire someone from the laundry list of people willing to work a mundane job for minimum wage
Why don't you see anything wrong with this? Why do you crave tyranny?

Anyway, the solution to this inequality is workers banding together and demanding more rights. It's called a trade union and it's done without government tyranny.

>>135430676
They teach about the history of unions and labor disputes in schools. Unions are just a bunch of commies though... Americans value hard work more than inherent rights. You are going to complain to the company that is putting food on the table?

>>135419770
bottom left is only possible in la-la land

>>135419770
All forms of anarchy are retarded. Living in society is a negotiation of people's liberties.

>>135430676
And yet living in a capitalist society has raised the lower class from literal peasants living off the land to modern America, where even the poorest citizens usually have a car and home of some kind. People were living on a dollar a day in today's dollar's just 100 years ago in America, and it's through 100 years of capitalism that we've managed to lift the lower class up.

Meanwhile, look at how literally any attempted communist state from the 20th century. Millions starved to death.

You cannot run a company as a tyrant. 80% of businesses started in America fail, and it's because there's a very fine balance to running a successful business. If you knew literally anything about it you'd be running one instead of posting your 'great revolutionary ideas' that go against human nature and natural law on a Chinese finger painting forum

>>135431240
Ever heard of people hunting mammoth together ?

>>135430816
>kid
>muh confederacy
I am probably the same age as you or older. Military veteran. And way more educated. Keep spreading hate though, rural whites have way more in common with inner city blacks than you think.

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>>135430746
>muh 1800s are relevant to today

That's why NatSoc exists. Nationalist unity and moderate social programs helps counter exploitation of the workers; and punish capital owners who seek to do harm to the nation or its values. However, it's still folly and counter-intuitive to to abolish the system of capital. There will always be people with superior skills and minds, and there will always be people who are retarded, lazy, degenerates. Allowing the skilled and diligent to rise to the top of the social ladder, and be in a position of command, leads to a more efficient system.

Google what happened to a faggy leftist sandwhich cafe in Michigan when it was attempted to be run according to anarcho-leftist principals.

http://fortune.com/2016/12/12/michigan-marxist-vegan-restaurant-closes/

>>135430827
So then send every job over seas to the lowest common denominator for the good of American stock holders? How does that help American workers again?

>>135431405
That analogy does not make sense in the context of a modern world, where most societies are comprised of more than 50 people

>>135430239
Neoliberals / corporate business owners are the ones who lobby for open borders. It gives them cheaper labor and skews the inequality of bargaining power even further in their favor.

If you think migrants are taken into countries for any reasons other than economic exploitation you're just wrong.

>>135419770
>Having 70% of your income taken away, no guns, only government provided services and living under the tyranny of the 51% is liberty

Fuck off you literal retard. Please go back to r/latestagecapitalism

>>135431500
I'm 28. I've been around niggers long enough to know they are a lost cause.

Also, fuck the (((Federal Reserve))) and its flag.

>>135431213
Because businesses are extensions of people, and should have the freedom to pay what they want for workers, just like workers have the freedom to choose the job they want. It's tyranny to force companies to pay more than they have to.

Look at this analogy
>>135430827
When's the last time you voluntarily paid more than the price tag on something to try and benefit the company producing it?

The disgust you just felt reading that is the same disgust companies feel when you try to force them to pay more than they should for the value of their workers' jobs.

Surely you mean
>freedom to tyrannize

>>135431380
I don't advocate for communism. I think what you're doing is called a strawman.

>>135431656
Still more natural than working for some guys which is born billionnaire and that you'll never see a office / factory at 8am.

And you can make it work for companies, just like many small companies in my country (FR) going to bankrupt has been bought by their employees and now works perfectly well

>>135431604
I'm telling you how things are, not how they should be. The truth is that companies already do outsource to other countries, for exactly the reasons I've listed. If you want to overcome that, you're going to have to try and suggest tactics that don't go against the human nature of wanting to get the best deal possible

>>135431718
Whoa buddy, I don't think you understand that bottom is libertarianism and top is authoritarianism and you've just described the latter.
>>135431899
What is more natural? Something that has never been achieved in the modern times?

>>135431530
>anarcho-leftist
see
>>135431337

>>135431865
Okay, so refute the points of capitalist systems lifting the lower class up rather than telling me what you're not

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>>135431705
>Neoliberals / corporate business owners are the ones who lobby for open borders.

Not all of them, but I agree the ones that do need to be punished. Make no mistake, I'm not a lolberg, I'm a nationalist first and foremost. I also support trade protectionism to give native labor unions and corporations and advantage over foreign ones.

Also,
>implying leftists don't shill for open borders like crazy

Go to any pro-immigrant rally, and you will see hundreds of red/commie flags. Don't try to deny this. The left actually go out of their way to chimp-out and destroy trash cans whenever some politician hints at limiting immigration. Right-wing citizens just try to ignore the leftist autists while driving to work.

You're being totally disingenuous if you think leftists aren't massive cucks for foreign niggers.

>>135431898
>Makes a whole country economy towards building guns and tanks to invade Poland in order to get Lebensraum from Slavic untermenschen
>Unemployment rate lowers
>Works

>>135431530
Luckily in the real world most people don't fetishize government tyranny. I won't waste my time trying to explain why totalitarian governments are the worst monsters created in human history, because you are probably mentally ill and devoid of all reason.

>>135432082
wrong, you need to look up what Germany was doing prior to the war. It sure as fuck wasn't building military equipment that was Russia and everyone else around them.

>>135420964
""""Positive rights"""" are incompatible with negative rights because they place unincurred obligations on people. Also private property is a positive right.

>>135432027
Working for your own ass and earning what you produce is more natural.

By this way of thinking, a Roman could say that slavery is the most natural way of working, since no other thing has been achived in the modern times.

>>135419770

Anarcho-Capitalism will work here, assuming that the chinks don't pillage and rape their way here first

>>135432110
No, I'm just a realist. You're a sheltered weeb living in a technocratic nationalist-as-fuck country with high-IQ East-Asians, and you're arguing for policies that would lead to its destruction.

Keep sniffing your own fats like they mean anything.

>>135432254
What part of what you described has anything to do with the economic-left?

>>135431754
>Because businesses are extensions of people
The actual business is a collection of people cooperating to fulfill a function. Profit is then generated and distributed to the people who were involved in its generation based on a negotiation biased towards the primary risk-taker. Currently, the negotiation is predicated on deeply unequal circumstances and bargaining power, therefore most agreed-upon divisions of power within workplaces have an element of coercion to them and are not just or ideal at all.

>>135431898
Wow, it's almost like 6 million job openings were generated.

I wonder how that happened.

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>>135432670
Haha sure it did.

>>135432488
The part where you don't work for someone else who gives you in exchange you the lowest amount he can and take the rest

>>135432254
If you want an anarhic society with no visible social authority, then go live in some African shithole.

Your own selfishness and disregard for national/social order will lead to lower-HDI eventually, as society becomes dumbed-down, production grounds to a halt (do to unions not wanting to do anything and asking for ridiculous benefits, and the fact that workers' tribes can't allocate resources efficiently over long distances), and the general attitude created by a society of laziness gibs leads to a population of lazy degenerates who don't contribute, and of course, the fact that "muh open borders" will eventually turn your region into a Brazil-tier favela.

Leftism is the death of civilization.

>>135432078
>driving to work
Where you are ok with getting paid as little as possible so that your CEO can buy a new vacation home. You'll get there one day though so its all good.

>>135432938
I work on a massive farm. I'm my own boss. I also own 11 million in capital, along with my brother.

>>135432870
That has nothing to do with the economic left. That is called healthy competition and is an essential element of a developed capitalist country.

it's all jew freemasons=cops courts mayors

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>>135419770

agreed

>>135420305

hardly true considering people who are poor would be less able to do what they want in such a system

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>>135432027
Nope. The political compass is complete garbage. This is the only true spectrum. The only dimension is that of liberty: far left is total authority, right is anarchy.

Left libertarianism isn't possible. Socialism requires a government to force people to hand over 75% of their money, no one will willingly do that. The only form of libertarianism is right-libertarianism.

>>135432427
Japanese aren't having children because they can't fucking afford it. Japanese are committing suicide because they have no future in their dead-end jobs. Japanese men are going MGTOW because women are obsessed with chasing brutal careers which leaves them with no time to care about anyone. The only real push towards accepting migrants to Japan comes from corporate lobbyists who want cheaper labor.

>>135433020
You were born into money and cant understand why somebody else might struggle. It all makes since now. 28 year old rich kid complaining about muh niggers.

>>135432590
If there were a more ideal way to function than what the companies making literal hundreds of billions are doing, and you've discovered it, how long until you've got a company worth hundreds of billions?

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This is the only compass that matters

>>135433380
I didn't inherit this until my uncle died a few months ago. I only worker here for 3 years.

I worked at McDonald's since I was 16 to help pay insurance on my shitty Hyundai Sonata.

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>>135433411
why not post those ancap spiderman ones.

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>>135431530
>Trying to run a leftist 'business' under capitalism

>He didn't even seize the means first! Hahahaha!

>>135433328

Right-libertarianism is an utopia. Without the state to enforce private-property, workers will just tell the capitalist to fuck off. Then he will come back with mercenary, but when people are desperate enought, they would just jump on tanks with ranks and pull the driver out of his cabin.

>>135433421
The concept of a minimum wage should be reworked. Perhaps it should be changed from an arbitrary flat number to a percentage of total profit, a share. I don't claim to have the perfect economic solution, but certainly we can move away from a total master-slave relationship where you are at the absolute mercy of your owner.

>>135433380
>>135433525
Also, it's not just some easy desk job.

You have to know:
>welding
>carpentry
>mechanics (try to dis-assemble and re-assembe a silage cutter head on your own, lol)
>plumbing for irrigation and water trough wells
>fertilizer science (muh liquid nitrate mixture)
>botany
>bovine biology
>veterinary skills
>banking and accounting (kike banks try to steal our shit constantly)

>>135421580
that is true
freedom is just an ideal as any other.
its just that authoritarians prefer being kings or slaves (they hope the leader shares their views tho) Its just a shame that it isn't stable.

All it takes is one individual to disagree in a purely white, non-degenerate society, and the whole assumption of "if we live in a homogenous society everything will solve itself out" can be thrown out the window.
Its similar to how anarcho-capitalists trust in the invisible hand

its just ideals. But atleast freedom works within its own framework. The others, not so much

>>135433711
>>135433728
Right-anarchy and left-anarchy are exactly the same. They can't be enforced, and will just lead to Somalia clones.

>>135433728
>Without the state to enforce private-property, workers will just tell the capitalist to fuck off
what the fuck am i reading...

>>135433931
Ever heard of Max Stirner?

>>135426339

> because landlords illegally claimed property titles in land, which they had never used for themselves

I love it when Ancaps talk like socialists. My man what you don't understand is the system in place. We basically have no problem with people voluntarily entering into arrangements however they see fit. The problem is that under this current system it isn't voluntary as much as it is acquiescence.

>>135433525
So then I'll go back to my previous argument.

>>135432938

>>135433711
>fights for le worker revolution
>wants to devalue their labor bargaining by importing millions of low-IQ niggers
>siphons-away their wealth via NEETbux

>>135433989
I got a degree in ag science and could have worked for Helena Chemical if I wanted to; then put some money into a 401K.

You leftists just have no ambition besides "give me some gibs!"

>>135433970
Never read anything about him or by him. Does he somehow manage to defy logic?

>>135419770
the green square is contradictory

>>135432276
What do these numbers mean? What are they producing?

>>135433931
http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/le-scan/citations/2015/10/05/25002-20151005ARTFIG00254-l-agression-du-drh-d-air-france-indigne-la-classe-politique.php

The human ressources director of Air France who got beat up after he told that they would fire 3000 employees even though the company was making good money. It wasn't by thugs or anarchists, but by people who were going to lose their low wage job that they needed to support their family.

>>135430585
this guy gets it

>>135434125
>leftists just have no ambition
lol, Im a mechanical engineer.

>>135434140
>I do not step shyly back from your property, but look upon it always as my property, in which I respect nothing. Pray do the like with what you call my property!

>>135434274
military build up.

>>135425550

>there is inherent value in conserving things that don't work because they are part of ouer culture

no

be a little more pragmatist about culture. >Things change (truth)
>We should try to keep what works not everything
>what works is based on emperical reality

too bad the nazis burned the books, before thhey realized this
((jew science))

>>135434302
solidarity comrade

>>135434302
If anything, this problem occurs because of the lack of government interference, not that I condone more of it though
>>135434323
Alright, prepare to taste my shotgun then

I love you OP.

>>135420305
>The freer the market, the freer the people.

what about the freedom to buy and sell people?

>>135425791
>in opposing tyranny you enforce your own tyranny

no, rebelling isn't the same as enforcing it on others.
>logic
>gandhi was being a tyrrant by getting hit all these times and not doing anything but rebelling

>>135434302
Btw they would still not have a job even if they succeded in killing the capitalist.

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>>135434323
Stirner still doesn't solve the reality of how an anarhcist society would be Somalia, especially if it forms in an area that's full of niggers like the US.

Niggers are one type of spook that Stirner didn't account for, lol.

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>>135434615
Thanks anon.

>>135433744
If the CEO of walmart worked for absolutely nothing and distributed his wealth equally to every worker he had, they'd all have a whopping 10 dollars more A YEAR.

Are you honestly telling me you think a couple million people with one more meal a year will do more good for their country and economy than one person with tens of millions would?

>>135434010
>hello fellow workers, let us vote today on whether we will replace some of us with less skilled workers from Africa
>of course they will be paid the same as the comrades they are replacing, since we voted on total pay equity many years ago

>so, who votes to fire themselves?

>>135434838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

What are your thoughts on this video?

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>>135419770

>>135419867
fpbp

>>135428276

>would want to be a slave
>but would also want to protect 'culture'

>flag

not suprised

>>135419770
>starving subject
Unfounded and anachronistic boogeyman.

>>135434735
Believing behavior or personality is innate and not learned is a spook.

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>>135434707
Forget about what the CEO earn cuz we don't care that much about it.

Talks about dividends and coupons given each year

>>135434838
If they shared 20% of their profits with their employees like many companies do they could give out hundreds of dollars per year. If you work for minimum wage an extra $300 could make a huge difference. Not that they should be forced to do that.

>>135420305
>neoliberals

Ayy lmao!

>>135433728
>Right-libertarianism is an utopia. Without the state to enforce private-property, workers will just tell the capitalist to fuck off.

Right-libertarianism is not anarcho-capitalism. Libertarianism is when the government's job is to enforce the law and protect its citizens from foreign threat by means of a military. By definition, everything other than right libertarianism is utopianism, since RL is about individualism and thus the default setting for humans.

>>135429921
>uses library as an example
>flag

>>135430783

>be leader ,or be slave and hope leader agrees with your views

great system

>>135419770
>picks statist leftism cancer
>"Liberty"

For the love of god, kill yourself before you say anything else so fucking stupid and embarrass yourself further.

>>135435841
You seem to be unfamiliar with how that chart defines its axes.

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>>135435806
That's not exactly how it works you brain dead faggot.

>>135431003
>peace
>lets attack poland
you sound like the commies, ignorat of history

>>135435565
Ancaps will be okay with communism as long as it is rebranded from "gibs me dat" to "the library has everything now!"

>>135435926
Nazism is absolute state tyranny. It's totalitarianism where if you don't pledge loyalty to the ruling class, you're risking your life.

>>135434622
>what about the freedom to buy and sell people

Anyone that makes up these sort of bullshit freedoms is clearly thick as shit.

>b-but what about the freedom to not have to pay for healthcare!1!!

All freedoms stem from the three natural rights: Life, liberty and property. Any other "rights" or "freedoms" can't infringe upon these. It's not a difficult concept. Your retarded postulation is clearly an infringement on the latter 2 natural rights.

>>135436027
>ignorat
Quit lying you fucking kike.

>>135436073
Absolutely incorrect read a book that isn't full of kike bullshit proxy faggot.

>>135432028
>>135431337

>implying this isn't the definition of libertarian left

>>135436123
>Life is a natural right
>Except for when your life is threatened by your health
>Then it's entirely based on your economic standing

>>135435243
Yeah, I'm sure you can be the great tamer of niggers, even after decades of a massive Federal state giving them gibs and affirmative action couldn't do it.

Nah, your anarchic tribes of "workers" who don't work will be much more efficient and getting niggers not to chimp.

>>135431213
the government shouldn't put a minimum wage. wages is a matter between workers and employers. just set the rules on how they play and let them sort it out themselves. rules such as no scabs and not being able to fire or in any way treat a worker differently because they are unionized.

>>135436123
You mean, if you respect life, liberty, property, no one can be a slave ?

What if my boss manage to do that if i stop working for 1 single day, i can't get water from anywhere around and die ?

There's no defined limit between when you're a slave and you got your life and liberty but got fucked so much by some else that you're literally a slave

>>135434965
>implying you lefties actually think like this

You vote/chimp-out for more niggers even when you know it leads to negative effects. See: cucked western Yurop and your autistic Antifa gangs (90% of them being NEETs that live with mommy).

>>135436334
This has already been tried with horrible results. Please read A People's History.

>>135436275
Believe it or not, but if you take a black baby and raise it with your family it would be more similar to you in behavior, personality, and values than a poverty-stricken black family.

>>135436219
Right to Life means no one can kill you. If you get cancer, no individual is killing you.

You soros funded shills are too easy, and certainly not the brightest bunch.

>>135436589
>no one can kill you
Real high standards you've got for society there.

>>135436582
Makes me wish I had the link to that IQ study I had on my old PC, but basically you're wrong.

Also, you'll won't have enough white families to raise every nigglet.

>>135436589
>checks flag

>>135431754
>Because businesses are extensions of people
>not one word about trade unions being the same
>typical capitalists, doesn't see equality even if it bites him in the ass

aslong as you don't limit trade unions, there is nothing wrong with corperations
>so glad i got to live in a country which ses any collection of people as the same collectivist strategy rather then playing favorites in the name of economy and exploitation, and claiming its somehow related to 'freedom'

>>135431805
think thats facism

>>135436857
Tell me why every human innately deserves to live just because they have human DNA.

Humanism is a spook.

>>135436493

Black and muslims people have been mostly brought to France for economic reason by the government and industry leaders, in order to get more minimum wage worker.

>>135436934
To deserve anything objectively outside of one individual's judgement requires the existence of a God. Assuming there is no God bestowing a list of rights, I am defining my own standards for society based on humanistic pragmatism. This includes both positive and negative rights to result in a society with genuine liberty i.e. one where you are not coerced in any manner including economically.

>>135436476
If you work for someone, you've entered a consensual mutual work agreement. That's your choice. Everyone is fully capable of surviving without money. Animals in the wild are able to do it, and homeless people are able to do it. It certainly won't be comfortable or easy, but you'll manage.

If you're working for minimum wage in Walmart, you're not a slave. You agreed to do it, get compensated for it, and can stop at anytime without facing repurcustions from another individual. African slaves in the 1700s had no such freedoms.

Stop being such a whiny bitch.

>>135434838
Ever heard of dividend and coupons ?

We're talking about more that just the CEO's wage

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>>135433328

>being so 1dimensional that you use a 2dimensional political compass

>>135436934
You had me going for awhile. Obvious trolling now.

>>135437146
>I am defining my own standards

In other words, a spook. Thanks for playing.

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>>135437019
Show the right-wingers chimping and screaming in the streets for more immigrants, because I can show you 6 gorillian examples of leftists doing it.

Also, I think (((industry leaders))) that betray the nation should be gassed.

>>135437195

Just wondering, do you think that factory workers and coal miners of your country during the XIXth centuries were free ?

>>135432224
((positive and negative ''liberty''))

>i am free to take a walk
implies
>no one stops me from takeing a walk
>i am not forced to take a walk
implies
>i am free to sit here

>>135437146
>With genuine liberty

In that case, what's free about having 50% of money being stolen at gunpoint?

>>135437195
Hilarious. Most homeless people are only able to survive due to state-funded programs and shelter. Otherwise, most homeless people reside on public property -- the thing that would cease to exist in an ancap society.
>the wild
Where? Please, tell me so I can laugh when you name a government-mandated reserve.

>>135436493
Left-libertarians think that way. There is not a single country in Europe being run based on those principles, obviously.

>>135436860
Intelligence is genetic. Personality and behavior are not. My point was all the stereotypical negatives you see in blacks is normal human behavior given their environment. It works the other way, if you were raised as a little white baby with a poor, inner city black family with a history of criminal activities, then you'd be a little white hood rat yourself. Your values didn't just enter your brain through osmosis.

>>135432905

>unions are bad because people are coming together and gaining power
>corperaitons are acceptable because people are coming together and gaining power

>rightwing logic

>>135437381

My parents were factory workers and i'm an engineer who works in a bank (shame of me). I'm working for a company detained by shareholders, so yeah i consider myself as proletarian.

Stop meming, edgy kid.

>>135437530
What's with ancaps obsession with gunpoint? Because your brain is too small to think of coercion that isn't the most fucking blatant and visual? Anyway, you are creating a strawman, so I shouldn't even reply.

>>135419770
Go soak up some more rads, faggot.

>>135437508
No. No one has ever been free in this country. The closest to true freedom any country has ever been was the United States when it was founded until the mid 1800s (for white men). Even then, there were major issues like slavery and protectionism.

>>135437727
>AnCom working at bank

Damn, now I have to listen to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-o3CJytIPE

>>135437693
I never said unions were inherently bad, I mean that excessive leftism makes them essentially worthless welfare queens.

How in the fuck does a leftist-anarchist society work on a global scale where certain resources only come from specific regions of the globe. For instance, if a workers' union that mines the rare earth elements in northern China decides to just mine enough for their own immediate needs, then suddenly the entire globe has an electronics shortage. We all know you leftist faggots will kill yourselves without iPhones or Colombian coffee.

>>135437858
So of the lack of freedom of people i was talking about, what was the cause ? State repression or concentration of capital ?

>>135433480

almost like a religion then, great as if politics needed to be even less scientific then they already are

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Fixed it for you

Ancap is the cause of why America can't into socialist healthcare in any form and no president of any party knows how to deal with it. Or pretends not to know how anyway.

>>135437596
Yeah, so how does an anarchist society tame niggers?

You realize you'll be poorer and have less GDP due to inefficiency and laziness right?

see: >>135431530

>>135437727
>anarchofaggot
>shaming others for being "edgy"
Ironic.

>>135437943
Yeah just wanted to work in something that uses maths and the stochastics calculus used in market finance are kinda sexy... But yeah i hope i'll be able to something else before i die

>>135433926

>left wing anarchy is about collectives of people
>but who will enforce itt????
>the same ones who do now
>the people

in an-cap its about individuals enforcing shit

>>135419770
>Anarcho-capitalism, in my opinion, is a doctrinal system which, if ever implemented


Like communism it can never be implemented. It's just a stupid meme for children. "Anarcho-capitalism" is just anarchy. I don't give a crap what wiki said.

>>135437747
I'm not an ancap. If you think libertarianism is the same as ancap then you confirm my suspicions of you being special needs.

My issue with ancap is that their definition of freedom is "being able to do whatever you want". That's only half of it. If I'm being enslaved (like black people in 1800, not your bs definition) then I'm not free. The true definition is "being able to do whatever you want provided it doesn't infringe upon the rights of another individual".

You clearly can't refute the fact that taxation is theft, so you resort to
>Muh strawman

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>>135419770

All societies revert back to tyranny, the question being how fast. Innequality is an absolute fact of pratical reality, you cannot ignore it. People will use all the kinds o powers they are good at to get leverage to coerce the "more equal" people who will slowly be chafted into a slave class.

The goverment is just the slave management branch of the banker megacorp, which all corporations are just masks for. That is the endgame of our current world.

>>135438451
I'm against taxation and the state. I'm also against corporate tyranny and wage slavery. Why is that hard to understand?

>>135438359
>in an-cap its about individuals enforcing shit


In Africa they are called warlords.

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>>135438359
>muh people

Yeah, because the hordes of retarded plebeian niggers are good at doing shit on their own, right? You honestly think you can get the nigs in Detroit to form some kind of utopia on their own? Fuck, I'm laffin. This is why anarcho-shit is only taken seriously by young faggots and a few opportunistic kike """"intellectuals"""".

Also, answer the global-scale resources problem I mentioned here:
>>135437978

>>135435488
do you even know what that means?

>>135419770
>The idea of "free contract" between the potentate and his starving subject is a sick joke
Maybe starving subjects shouldn't have children then

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>>135419770
would lead to forms of tyranny and oppression that have few counterparts in human history.
bring it on motherfucker

>>135438774
It's actually fun to read Hoppe because he describes such an abject dystopian hellhole of brutal tyranny and misery that fiction writers would be jealous.

>>135435926
>not even telling me how it supposedly 'works'

naizs always bring so much to the table

why don't you go and burn some more books jimmy?

>>135420043
I'll spell it out for you. Corperate tyranny can't exist. Any one can start buisness, and no one is forcing you to buy into a corperation's product

>muh monopoly
ok. why don't you be the competitor buisness?
> uh well what if I don't have enough money!
then don't complain about it if you aren't willing to put up with the risk of taking out massive loans.

government regulation is what kills starting and competing businesses. They more often than not end up creating monopolies.

>>135438083
replace monarch/ oligarch with
"God's bitch"

>>135437978
Confederation of Communes my dude. I'm sure you'll be thrilled to hear my solution is a confederation.

>>135438271
The same way the military does, you give people camaraderie and purpose. That's not to say I think everyone would just fit right in. Since we have all been born into capitalism we have capitalist values. For some people it would be so deeply ingrained it would be difficult for them. For new people born into an anarchist society, it will be an effortless adaptation as it it closer to our natural primitive societies so it meshes better with...... human nature.

>>135438359
Explain it, faggot. NOW!

Answer this: >>135437978

How do you get rare earth elements to your Vermont suburb from northern China when everything is a patchwork of anarchist tribes?

>>135439038
>government regulation is what kills starting and competing businesses.


So do away with all regulations?

>>135438451
freedom doesnt exist. its a fuccking fake word like racism. the concept is literal nonsense

the east asian word for freedom is 自由 which literally means caused by the self

instead of asking "doea man have free will" a nonsense qurstion, asians ask "what factors caused a man to choose"

there is no freedom. there is independence. you have it or you dont and politics is solely the actions of redistributing it

ancap gives independence in the medium at which exchange takes place. it minimizes coercion but no system cab "give freedom"

>>135438660

well to be honest i don't trust in people from south american to be able to be individuals either

but im an optimist, rather then looking at collections of sterotypes, i prefer to judge people based on their integirty.
A person who trust generalizations will be wrong for niggers 30% of the time, and he will have false positives in trusting his white trash friends 40% of the time

i prefer to be right 100% of the time by judging people on diffrent standards

>>135439289
How do you enforce this confederation?

Especially when is with a part of a totally different culture across the globe? You think Chinks will stop trying to price gouge round-eye just because you faggot hispters say "be nice pls."

>>135439038
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inequality_of_bargaining_power
And if you're willing to do anything for your next meal or to feed your kids, you're not going to ask for better pay when there's 20 other people lined up for the same job.
>ok. why don't you be the competitor buisness?
You need to already be wealthy to start a business and emp--
>then don't complain about it if you aren't willing to put up with the risk of taking out massive loans.
Regardless, it's physically impossible for everyone to be a business owner and no one to be a worker. The proportion is pretty absolute regardless of anyone's level of effort. When right wingers start saying everyone should start their own business, to me that's just as, if not more Utopian than what commies spout. Because it's literally not even possible under ideal circumstances.

>>135439478
>>135439289
You guys just really want Somalia for the West, don't you? Damn, you're determined to get gibs at any cost.

>>135439576
You could fix this bargaining power problem by not importing millions of niggers, you commie retard.

>>135439292

chill mong, there are plenty of posts on here

>>135437978
as long as you judge the evil done by corperations by the same standards as the ones done by unions there is nothing wrong with this.

Idealy, one should judge the collection of people for power on the same standards

as for the other part
>what are mutual trade deals
if i have a resource that is needed for production of something, but not the expertise to make something out of it, it is essentialy worthless unless sold

>>135439396
Depends. Is there a super high expectation of morality that is nearly universal? If not then we simply aren't ready for such a system. I'm a centrist economically but I won't deny that theoretically capitalism is very feasible if we were actually educated on how it works. A society that has no high standard of morality and individualism ( a everything is possible in your own hands mentality) would have no chance

>>135439829
I'm completely against all immigration, including legal immigration, primarily on the basis of countering migrant exploitation by big business.

>>135439720

great argument from someone who would love to be wrong about his judgments just so he can have an easy solution to lifes problem of choosing ones relationships

>>135439842
The power of mutual trade deals will be lessened, because the patchwork of tribes will have less capital to bargain with individually. Still no iPhones for round-eye.

Also, you're being extremely generous with your trust in these various tribes to "just get along" or even function adequately when they're full of lazy niggers. People already hate other cities and states because of their football teams.

>>135436151

the nazis just burned the books, sorry

>>135439038
corporate tyrrany can and does exist. im an ancap too but stop making retarded arguments you idiot

how about pumping xenoestrogens into babies and expecting mothers products to shrinkvtestes size using a plastic initially developed as AN ESTROGEN SUBSTITUTE

tell me that isnt corporate tyrrany

>>135439484
Voluntary association is the basis of libertarianism. So basically, you don't. Communes would decide freely if they wanted to associate, but would not be a requirement. Under a confederation, central authority is weak and that is desired, by me at least.

>>135439451


Your thought process is one dimensional. You see everything in terms of a zero sum. Everything is binary to you. No middle ground.

Anarchy or totalitarian. Freedom or slavery, etc. You just pick the nicest sounding (on the surface) word and throw all your weight behind that.


Shallow.

>>135439957
>I'm completely against all immigration

Congratulations, you're .005% of the commie population! You would get a loaf of bread as a prize, but the commissar says we're all out.

>>135439975
You just cant seem to realize how retarded your notions are. It's like trying to tell somebody grass is green, and they refuse to believe you.

>>135440292
I'm not a communist. I support minarchism and syndicalism.

>>135439888
>Is there a super high expectation of morality that is nearly universal?


There never will be. Even if there were, in an unregulated society they'd quickly be corrupted. Impossible.

>>135440266
>Communes would decide freely if they wanted to associate

So then be prepared for all these nigger gang unions to work in their own self-interest and reduce your former nation's capital bargaining power.

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>>135419770

>>135440457
That's kinda like saying "I'm not a Tumblrfaggot, I'm just a trans-dimensional demisexual foxkin."

>>135440277
you are an idiot

freedom is not precisely defined, therefor loses any use it has in discussion

if you want a vague nonsense word to shape to your purpose at a whim, like sexist, racist, or "muh freedum" then congrats you found the perfect word to turn your brain into mush

the founding fathers had specific words, such as enumerated powers, unenumerated powers, restrictions, etc

if you arent talking IN DETAIL about SPECIFIC GOVERNMENT POWERS then you are a useful idiot.

spics love to cry about freedom. do you think they can define it? do you think they mean the same thing you do? because a lot of pro freedom boomers are in the aide of the spics via brainwashing

>>135440142
You clearly aren't a well read ancap. Our answer to literally everything is the free market. Government's only duty is to ensure transactions follow through
>pumping xenoestrogens into babies
Don't know where this came from, but I am going to assume you mean this is from processed milk. Well if the people were read up on the purchasing power that they have, the market would fix itself. I make this clear in this post>>135439888

>>135439576
>And if you're willing to do anything for your next meal or to feed your kids, you're not going to ask for better pay when there's 20 other people lined up for the same job.

Maybe you should be more qualified to either get offers or start a new buisness\
>Regardless, it's physically impossible for everyone to be a business owner and no one to be a worker. The proportion is pretty absolute regardless of anyone's level of effort. When right wingers start saying everyone should start their own business, to me that's just as, if not more Utopian than what commies spout. Because it's literally not even possible under ideal circumstances.
So in other words your arguement is that because I am lazy and stupid I should have someone wipe my ass. got it

>>135440594
A commune working on its own would not be unheard of, especially if they didn't need resources from the outside and were able to provide for all on their own. I don't see this as a problem.

>>135440738

My post went straight over your idiotic head and you started arguing with a strawman.

You're a waste of time, child.

>>135440121

sounds alot like countries eh?
Only on a smaler scale

sounds to me like nationalists and anarchists should agree with these principles if they where anywhere near about the same thing.

To bad agressive expansion is the goal of nationalism, which isn't the goal of anarchism

>>135441111
>To bad agressive expansion is the goal of nationalism

Reminder that you would have a lot more capital and resources for gibs if the (((Soviet Union))) didn't chimp-out over imperialism and give AKs and SAMs to nigger countries to fight white countries.

>>135440837
>You clearly aren't a well read ancap. Our answer to literally everything is the free market. Government's only duty is to ensure transactions follow through


What if fraud is committed by one of the parties?

>>135440380

more like you trying to explain why grass is green, without having any scientific understanding

if you give a good argument i would gladly abandon my positions. But as far as i have seen, its rather simplistic.

Which is also the case why many people adopt a generalized view rather then making a complex system of judgment

>>135440837
not just milk. read up about the plastics in baby bottles and pregnant womens cosmetics. the patent was initially filed for a solid compound ti act as a topical estrogen replacement

theb 4 years later it ends up almost.exclusively in products for.babiea and pregnant women

also, perfectly free markets are a myth. of the state no longer exists to goose markets, market actors will rig their own markets. stop being a facile idiot

>>135441249

>believing all leftists agree

gee its like you muddled the diffrent opinions together into one big strawmen

its a very simplistic strategy, again. An easy way to make the brain understand

i dont give a fuck about the ((soviet union))

>>135441045
>A commune working on its own would not be unheard of, especially if they didn't need resources from the outside and were able to provide for all on their own


They'd be too weak to exist within an advanced society without protection from a stronger authority.

>>135441045
We already get cheated by the Chinks under current trade deal laws, which are enforcement with threat of guns and prison time.

An anarchist society, with less bargaining power, and would essentially be constantly-shifting as the nigger gangs loot and conquer other tribes, would be even more powerless to stop foreign fraud an usery. Still no iPhones for round-eye.

You're basically saying "I have no problem with having a lower HDI as long as the nigs get to run free in the streets." What a cuck.

>>135441487
You just got triggered by nationalist expansion here: >>135441111

What's the difference between your end goal and the Soviets when it relates to exploitation of foreign niggers?

Why wouldn't you support the exploitation of retarded apes from across the globe by your nationalist government when it allowed you to have more gibs extracted from them? You wouldn't be able to do this effectively under anarcho-faggism, in fact, you'd be even poorer than you are now.

>>135441620
>would essentially be constantly-shifting as the nigger gangs


These gangs would actually be white. In a disorganized society the factions with greater organizational skills float to the top.

>>135441487
Also, tell me what's stopping mass immigration of niggers under an anarcho-leftist system?

Latinos would turn your Cali suburb into a Brazilian favela in a few decades.

>>135442044
LMAO if you actually believe this.

>>135442082
Its already like that. Why are you so obsessed with cultural purity. You never ate a taco?

>>135442189
I'm not talking about tacos, I'm talking about favela-tier living conditions, you peabrain.

>>135442174
Oh, the irony.

>>135442249
We are capable of producing these conditions without immigration. I see people white American men sleeping under bridges every time I go outside.

>>135442307
>dude gangs of niggers will rise to the top, trust me

>>135442174


Organized crime is not ruled by blacks. Blacks are street level and poorly organized.

>>135442343
Congratulations, you noticed some outliers.

>>135442370
If they're poorly-organized how will the rise to the top? Damn, contradictions much?